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==On Banhammer== | |||
==Removed ] tag== | |||
2009-11-03 -- the banhammer is an actual, physical object that has become part of popular culture. as such it belongs on[REDACTED] as its own article, not as a simple redirect to obscure references. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 14:57, 3 November 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
I'm not sure this article meets the criteria for Speedy Deletion under ]. Maybe an AfD nomination would provide some good debate to evaluate its eligibilty for Misplaced Pages. I certainly have heard of this term many times. --] 16:42, 13 July 2006 (UTC) | |||
:Follow-up: Looks like we have a keeper. Thanks to all for the quality edits. --] 16:07, 9 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
==Mythical banhammer== | |||
Hah, you can't call that nonsense, look at the actual article! 'mythical'.] 15:34, 10 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
Um I don't understand why this page was redirected but not merged. The problem with this redirect is that the previous info on this page wasn't even moved to that page, so it became a bit "unmentioned". I don't think this should be a redirect since it's become a popular term. Here is the recent documentation of this term: And here is the Google Insights for this term: . And this site is a redirect for those who were banned by admins/mods with "banhammers" (ban powers): This is fairly recent so I understand why it was redirected, but it's become more common. - ] (]) 01:53, 13 November 2011 (UTC) | |||
:The "mythical" intro for the article was added as a sloppy vandalism reversion and I missed it somehow. I have restored more appropriate descriptive language. | |||
:At first I though you were just being , but thanks for pointing out the odd language, and sorry for the . -- <span style="font-family:Palatino Linotype">]</span> 00:38, 18 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
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==actual banhammer== | ||
RE: The banhammer was actualized into a physical object in 2009.<nowiki><ref>Thompson, Chris, , Boing Boing, URL retrieved ]-].</ref></nowiki> | |||
Boing boing is not a news source. this is just something that someone invented. ] (]) 18:59, 26 February 2012 (UTC) | |||
The picture posted is irrelevant to the article. There is no real thing as a banhammer. It's only a meme. I'm removing it for now as it's misleading the user to thinking that a 'banhammer' is a real object <small>—The preceding ] comment was added by ] (] • ]){{#if:{{{2|}}}| {{{2}}}|}}.</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> | |||
*It's funny! and it actually gets the point across nicely. -] 23:54, 6 June 2007 (UTC) | |||
==Origin as I know it== | |||
Not really,It's just a hammer,usually,most banhammers have something like B& on them,and have spikes and stuff. <small>—The preceding ] comment was added by ] (] • ]){{#if:{{{2|}}}| {{{2}}}|}}.</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> | |||
I seem to remember a WarCraft III tool that did IP bans that used Uther, who wielded a hammer as its icon. It was used in competitive play, so the banhammer quickly proliferated there. I'm a wiki n00b so whatever. ] (]) 11:36, 19 January 2015 (UTC) | |||
Ya. {{unsigned|24.63.28.134}} | |||
== Hammer reference == | |||
*] you need to state your argument as to how this picture is related to the article instead of just editing it back.] 18:22, 7 June 2007 (UTC) | |||
Isn't the use of the hammer as an icon based on the Juidicial Gavel? http://en.wikipedia.org/Gavel | |||
:Since I made the picture: This object is specifically referred to as "banhammer" and is wielded by a moderator ] 18:28, 7 June 2007 (UTC) | |||
] (]) 09:21, 11 June 2015 (UTC) | |||
:: The picture is unreated though. The article talks about nothing relating to your picture. It only refers to banhammer as a meme not an object in a game. ] 18:46, 7 June 2007 (UTC) | |||
::: The object is a representation of the meme ] 19:05, 7 June 2007 (UTC) | |||
:::: I don't see how you can say that. All it is is a furry holding a hammer. It could be anything. Like the user above posted most representations of banhammer has b& on them and spikes. A better representation would be to have the icon for a moderator in Starcraft since the it is actually mentioned in the article and makes sense. ] 19:15, 7 June 2007 (UTC) | |||
::::: Well, what can I say, that's the banhammer they use there. I don't see anything in the article saying it's got to have some specific shape or be officially labelled. I contributed what I had. And I don't think you can use the Starcraft one because I imagine Blizzard would frown on that. ] 20:53, 7 June 2007 (UTC) | |||
:::::: What do you mean that's what they use? Can you give a citation for that? To me that image looks just like an in game item that a user made in second life. ] 02:20, 8 June 2007 (UTC) | |||
::::::: Absolutely everything in Second Life is user made. The hammer, the avatar, and in fact the whole place where the screenshot was taken. ] 19:33, 8 June 2007 (UTC) | |||
*I color balanced the existing image. It's much clearer now. -] 19:17, 8 June 2007 (UTC) | |||
===Straw poll=== | |||
<s>Who believes ] belongs in the article? Polling open from 22:45, 7 June 2007 (UTC) to 22:45, 14 June 2007 (UTC) (one week). Please add your name by signing with 4 tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>) and an optional comment. -] 22:45, 7 June 2007 (UTC)</s> | |||
Closed: Even discounting the 4 single purpose accounts, the opposes have this 6-3. -] 22:02, 15 June 2007 (UTC) | |||
*Support | |||
# -] 22:47, 7 June 2007 (UTC) adds a touch of humor to the article. | |||
#:'''Comment:''' Humour isn't a valid reason for using a nonsensical image. ≈ '''<font color="purple">]</font>''' <font color="green"><sup>(])</sup></font> 16:17, 12 June 2007 (UTC) | |||
# Object pictured represents what the article describes. Article used to have an image that got deleted due to lacking fair use rationale, while this one is free to use. ] 23:34, 7 June 2007 (UTC) | |||
#:'''Comment:''' It doesn't represent a banhammer, as that's a user not a moderator. ≈ '''<font color="purple">]</font>''' <font color="green"><sup>(])</sup></font> 16:17, 12 June 2007 (UTC) | |||
#:::'''Reply:''' The pic in question is of an in game character. Can you prove to me that said character is, in fact, not a moderator? It doesn't pay to bicker over improvable points. -- ] 01:33, 13 June 2007 (UTC) | |||
# In agreement with ]. However, if another free to use image is found that is just as good...well, that solves the problem too, doesn't it? -- ] 09:02, 11 June 2007 (UTC) | |||
#::'''Comment:''' See above. ≈ '''<font color="purple">]</font>''' <font color="green"><sup>(])</sup></font> 16:17, 12 June 2007 (UTC) | |||
#:::'''Reply:''' As stated, if you can come up with a better image, the problem would have already been solved, right? -- ] 19:52, 12 June 2007 (UTC) | |||
#:::'''Reply:''' There was a better image originally, but it was removed due to fair use conflicts. The problem was solved then, and will be. "You can drive a car with your feet, but it doesn't make it a good idea." would be what applies to the current image. ≈ '''<font color="purple">]</font>''' <font color="green"><sup>(])</sup></font> 20:16, 13 June 2007 (UTC) | |||
*Oppose | |||
#'''Oppose''' inclusion. Doesn't seem encyclopedic or particularly relevant to the specific topic. I do not believe it sufficiently represents either the concept of strict online rules enforcement or the "''actual anti-cheating software that performs the banning action''". -- <span style="font-family:Palatino Linotype">]</span> 00:10, 8 June 2007 (UTC) | |||
#I think that this picture has nothing useful to add to the article to itself,at the least,post more representations or simply remove it. <small>— ] (] • ]) has made ] outside this topic. {{ #if: {{{2|}}} | The preceding ] comment was added at {{{2}}} (UTC{{{3|}}}).}}</small> | |||
#I oppose the image for various reason I've stated above. To sum up my arguments: it has nothing to do with the article and is simply a vehicle for the user to have an image of his Second Life character on wikipedia. Also,[REDACTED] isn't a joke book. There isn't suppose to be any humor. It's an encyclopedia. ] 02:25, 8 June 2007 (UTC) | |||
#The picture in question has absolutely nothing to do with the article at hand, nor is it a valid photographic representation describing said article. It also appears to be nothing more than a way to get an image of the original poster's character up on[REDACTED] space. ] 02:21, 8 June 2007 (UTC) | |||
#I oppose the inclusion of this image for three sufficient reasons. Firstly, the "meme" that the article is about does not relate to any particular, concrete image. Secondly, the purpose of the image is to serve its creator's interest of showcasing a work of his, rather than actually adding more substance to the article. Finally, the image itself is irrelevant to the article in its entirety because it does not in any lucid, particular way convey a significant idea pertaining to the "meme." Hence the image is unrelated and is employed to serve a personal interest. ] 02:39, 8 June 2007 (UTC) | |||
#'''oppose'''. The image is umm... well pretty unrelated. It is more of an image then a[REDACTED] image. It looks like origonal artwork, which someone then connected to the concept of "banhammer" Why not have an actual picture from one of the games? ] 06:49, 8 June 2007 (UTC) | |||
#'''Oppose'''. Furry with a hammer (thats a hammer? its too dark to say clearly) is not a good representation of a banhammer. Something like a hammer with "ban" written on it would be more representative, or some kinda logo of a program used for, and called, "banhammer". ] 08:09, 8 June 2007 (UTC) | |||
#'''Oppose'''. Not even slightly encyclopaedic. <b>]</b> <small>(])</small> 09:19, 8 June 2007 (UTC) | |||
#'''Oppose''' per above; not useful in any way whatsoever and not a representation of a banhammer. --] 04:22, 10 June 2007 (UTC) | |||
#'''Oppose''' Someone's furry from Second Life has nothing to do with a banhammer, can users ban people in Second Life? If not then it's also confusing for people not "in the know". ≈ '''<font color="purple">]</font>''' <font color="green"><sup>(])</sup></font> 16:12, 12 June 2007 (UTC) | |||
*Neutral | |||
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#Just want to comment, there are an unusually large number of ]s opposing...You almost never see this many on a talk page in ust a few hours.... -] 05:59, 8 June 2007 (UTC) | |||
:It is pretty unusual. ] 06:49, 8 June 2007 (UTC) | |||
:And.....Pretty unusual.... that apparent meatpuppets are correct! :)] 18:07, 8 June 2007 (UTC) | |||
::: I don't see what the big deal with ]s adding their opinion to the discussion? It's not like there are a lot of big time contributors adding as well. ] 20:03, 8 June 2007 (UTC) | |||
::::Says the guy with the 4 sockpuppets. -] 20:11, 8 June 2007 (UTC) | |||
::::And as we can see from ] (which include vandalizing an article and an user page) you set a great example how to contribute. ] 20:32, 8 June 2007 (UTC) | |||
::::: First I would like proof of the so called sockpuppets since I know for a fact that this is accusation is false. Please don't make accusations without proof thank you. Second, I have nothing to say about the vandalization since this IP is shared between a large amount of users. ] 20:42, 8 June 2007 (UTC) | |||
#To the questions of why this and not a picture from a game: Because it's what I had to offer. I don't own any of the games mentioned, and I'm not sure about the licensing issues such a thing would involve. ] 18:03, 8 June 2007 (UTC) | |||
:This is exactly why it should not be included. The internet thanks you for our effort but it just doesn't fit in. ] 20:03, 8 June 2007 (UTC) | |||
:This is seriously ]—] (]) 08:59, 8 June 2007 (UTC) | |||
:: I also agree since ] and ] have just resorted making up lies and trash talking to push their agenda. ] 20:44, 8 June 2007 (UTC) |
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On Banhammer
2009-11-03 -- the banhammer is an actual, physical object that has become part of popular culture. as such it belongs on[REDACTED] as its own article, not as a simple redirect to obscure references. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 158.130.93.59 (talk) 14:57, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
Um I don't understand why this page was redirected but not merged. The problem with this redirect is that the previous info on this page wasn't even moved to that page, so it became a bit "unmentioned". I don't think this should be a redirect since it's become a popular term. Here is the recent documentation of this term: And here is the Google Insights for this term: . And this site is a redirect for those who were banned by admins/mods with "banhammers" (ban powers): This is fairly recent so I understand why it was redirected, but it's become more common. - M0rphzone (talk) 01:53, 13 November 2011 (UTC)
actual banhammer
RE: The banhammer was actualized into a physical object in 2009.<ref>Thompson, Chris, , Boing Boing, URL retrieved ]-].</ref>
Boing boing is not a news source. this is just something that someone invented. Igottheconch (talk) 18:59, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
Origin as I know it
I seem to remember a WarCraft III tool that did IP bans that used Uther, who wielded a hammer as its icon. It was used in competitive play, so the banhammer quickly proliferated there. I'm a wiki n00b so whatever. 86.154.179.234 (talk) 11:36, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
Hammer reference
Isn't the use of the hammer as an icon based on the Juidicial Gavel? http://en.wikipedia.org/Gavel 87.103.15.104 (talk) 09:21, 11 June 2015 (UTC)
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