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| If I was really this vandal that you think I am, I would try and cover up the fact that it is me... however, I am <b>trying</b> to get this accross to you because you all deserve to know the truth... and I dont want my reputation to fall without me even having any cause of this (with regards to the sockpuppetery anyway). Please dont block me... Im trying to help show you the real truth (Those not involved with the Iamandrewrice incident will not understand what this message is referring to, but if you do, then please read everthing on the ANI, and everything is explained that i know) ] (]) 18:14, 5 December 2007 (UTC) | |||
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| if you block my account... You wont be able to use me to get rid of the real vandal, and the vandalism will continue. If you dont block me, I will be able to continue to give you as much information as you need..... gosh blocking me is just a sign of real intelligence and benefit to the site isnt it? ] (]) 18:23, 5 December 2007 (UTC) | |||
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| :I have replied on my talk page. Please, if you really want to start over then listen to what is being said to you. This isn't a debate club where you get to make rebuttals to everything that is being said. You can reply here - I'll ignore any new disruptive accounts you might create. ] (]) 18:39, 5 December 2007 (UTC) | |||
| ::I won't, I'll block them until this is resolved. I shall, however, leave this page unprotected. ] <sup>]</sup> 19:45, 5 December 2007 (UTC) | |||
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| == EconomicsGuy == | |||
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| ... in reply to your message (I now have to reply here because I have again been blocked and this is the only page I am allowed to edit) <b>:(</b> ... you say that I should have just used an account to start over... well firstly, that disruptive behaviour was mostly nothing to do with me... read the ANI and youll see why. Secondly, from what I have been informed so far, that is against the rules... as it would still be sockpuppeting. This way, at least Im still telling people the truth. And yes, I do have respect for the rules, despite what false oppinions may have been spread about me... ] (]) 18:41, 5 December 2007 (UTC) | |||
| :Okay you have been misinformed then. You weren't ] only indef blocked. Non-disruptive socks are still allowed. For example, if you wanted to start over you would be allowed to create a new account as long as it was solely used for constructive edits. A ban, on the other hand, would imply that you would not be allowed back no matter what account you were using and for whatever purpose. A block is on the account - a ban is on the person behind the account(s). ] (]) 18:45, 5 December 2007 (UTC) | |||
| ::Yeah but I dont want to start afresh and start lying to people. I dont want people to go on believing that all that stuff with the sockpuppets is true...I want people to understand what has really been happening here... please can I somehow be unblocked? cos this is really difficult to try and contact those who I intended to while being blocked. I was hoping to send a message to Jeff informing him to check his email from me... and also to message Yamla to tell him/her that I understand Joeseth1992's sockpuppets have been mean... and I apologize on his behalf... but I dont want him/her thinking it had anything to do with me. I would also like to have possibly contacted Whitstable... and anyone else that was involved with this... as I am sorry that this has cost so much... in many ways... but I want people to actually be told the real truth from me... not from TonyWalton or someone, example used as a person that seems adamant that I should not be able to explain the true circumstances. ] (]) 18:51, 5 December 2007 (UTC) | |||
| :::I've posted a message on ANI. If you are to return to editing articles you must understand the conditions. What has happened here is extremely disruptive. Of course, I can't unblock you (not an admin and even if I was I couldn't unilatterally unblock) but then again given the history of the Iamandrewrice account I wouldn't reccomend that you return to that one anyway. ] (]) 19:06, 5 December 2007 (UTC) | |||
| ::::Thank you for listenin and making the effort with me... I very much appreciate that. I would really really like to rejoin wikipedia. However, I do wish for my identity to be clear... so be this using 'Iamandrewrice'... or whatever... as I feel that recreating an identity would be lying, something which I really dont want to do... I just want to tell the truth and let people know who I am, whatever mistakes I have made (and i do admmit that there are some I have made... but not everything that I have been acused of). yes i am sorry for the inconvience of all of this, but if you really wish to find the true sockpuppeter I suggest you look into Joeseth1992... if you would like anymore info about it I am sure I could help... but this is extremely difficult considering that I am blocked, and that the vast majority of people involved in this still think that I am the person that has sockpuppeted everyone. I understand that if my identity is revealed, then yes, as you say, the[REDACTED] community would keep a very harsh eye on me... but this is something I am prepared to go through, as I was always intending good faith, and never maliciously intended to do any wrong on here. Thanks again economicsguy... you have been a help all the way through. And thanks everyone for reading this (this message was for everyone by the way... as I was unable to reply on the ANI due to my block... so yeah... basically, I am prepared to accept any conditions you may ask for... but I really really do want to help contribute) ] (]) 19:15, 5 December 2007 (UTC) | |||
| Your account will still work as before, and you will be credited for all your edits made so far, but you will have to use the new account name when you log in. | |||
| The length of your postings in itself is not constructive, so to <u>summarise</u> what you say on AN/I (and taking into account your edit history as Iamandrewrice): | |||
| Sorry for the inconvenience. | |||
| *Having behaved with gross incivility to my adopter, then having behaved with further gross incivility to other editors, you posted unsourced, unreferenced "information on an article. | |||
| *You were blocked for this, and for issuing further incivility when warned about your actions. Due to your status as adoptee, and through the good offices of your adopter, the block lasted only an hour. | |||
| *After an hour you found the IP address still blocked. Rather than choosing to read the "What to do if autoblocked" message you then ranted against the blocking admin once the autoblock expired. | |||
| *After the block expired, you claimed that accounts belonging to others were, in fact, your own sockpuppets. This led to an indefinite block for sockpuppetry. Checkuser (obiously) got it wrong, as none of these accounts were associated with you. | |||
| *You then deliberately created sockpuppet accounts, and used them deliberately for disruptive purposes. | |||
| *"in order to make people listen" (and I ''really' don't understand this bit) you used a name resembling a known sockpuppeteer. | |||
| *One of the other people banned (wrongly, you say) as a sockpuppet is now creating sockpuppets of their own and using them for disruptive purposes, independently of you. Their disruption is worse than yours. | |||
| *I want it all to be forgotten | |||
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| I don't think any further comment from me is necessary. ] <sup>]</sup> 19:38, 5 December 2007 (UTC) | |||
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| I dont understand what youre saying... Ok, ill work through each bullet point you made: | |||
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| *With regards to the information on Monkton, the final time I edited it (the time I was blocked), was, if you check the edit, perfectly fine, as the reference agreed with everything I wrote. And er... excuse me? I did reference it... that was not the issue... it seems like you didnt actually read the case properly there... The issue was that what I wrote went beyond the reference I gave... but on the third time I edited it, this was not the case, but the user assumed that I was vandalising, and blocked me (this is one of the things that I do <b>not</b> accept me being in the wrong). Although I do appologize to being rude to other users, and honestly realise this was wrong. (so in this sense, I agree that I was wrong to be impolite... although I would not quite go as far as uncivil) | |||
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| *And no the block did not expire after an hour, in responce to your second bullet point. | |||
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| *With regards to this point... what else was I supposed to do... I was trying desparately to work out why my account was being blocked further... and was annoyed that my account was blocked anyway... for a reason that was not valid. (so for this point, I do not see how I was meant to somehow understand where I should have gone on the site for help, and therefore, it is unreasonable to assume that I would have been able to) | |||
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| *hmmm... yes I lied to my adopter (although I did not say it so clearly... but instead tried to hint) that the accounts I knew to be my friends were 'mine'. This was because of a message I recieved from Jeff, saying how even newer users were doing better than me already. I felt embarassed and wanted to prove that I was not so stupid, so made it seem like I was in a more advanced situation by lying to make out I was sockpupetting. (This, I am the most sorry for... it was unnacceptable and attention seeking... I can see that I was completely in the wrong) However, I would like to point out that you have identified many users as sockpuppets of me that have nothing to do with me... they are innocent as far as I can see, and do not want to be responsible for their blocks... if you would like more detailed info on which accounts were and werent me or my friends, please ask me about it... | |||
| *Ok, I did make a total of 3 sockpuppet accounts at this stage. I was annoyed that so many people (30+ by this time) had been blocked on being account of being my sockpuppeters... even though I had nothing to do with them, so I made the three accounts to try and contact people attempting to explain everything. However, a friend, Joeseth1992 was getting onto these accounts (he knows the password I use for everything), and sending people rather abusive messages from what I have heard, although I am not entirely filled in on this even now, which resulted in people thinking those accounts were also me, not only ruining my reputation, but hurting other users. If you compare the writing styles of mine and my friends edits, Im sure the differences will be immediately apparent. (I do in some ways regret trying to make those three sockpuppets... but i was only going to use them to inform users on[REDACTED] of the real situation, as someone was using my identity)... | |||
| *Ok now this... now ages and ages ago... a user called SteveBaker informed me of a man/woman/user called Wiarthurhu... and about how famous this person was... I realised that no one was listening to what I was saying... so I thought that if I pretended I was more powerful and was in control of everything, then maybe they would give me time enough to start explaining. So I made Wiarthurwho... in order to make it appear on first inspection like I was linked to him/her. This worked... however, I was not given time to actually explain anything though... (this is possibly one of the most stupid things I have done... so obviously, I appologize deeply for this) | |||
| *Yes, Joeseth1992 has made many accounts, as well as logging onto mine... (i dont see how I am supposed to appologize for this...) | |||
| *and lastly... I dont want it all to be forgotton... but I want people to be informed of the full truth... so then at least they can make a fair decision... | |||
| thank you ] (]) 20:05, 5 December 2007 (UTC) | |||
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