| Revision as of 13:35, 14 December 2007 edit81.153.124.23 (talk) →Response to your essay← Previous edit |
Latest revision as of 18:35, 20 January 2025 edit undoLowercase sigmabot III (talk | contribs)Bots, Template editors2,311,942 editsm Archiving 1 discussion(s) to User talk:JzG/Archive 218) (botTag: Manual revert |
| Line 1: |
Line 1: |
|
|
{{bots|deny=DPL bot}} |
|
<center><br><div style="align: center; width: 60%; padding: 1em; border: solid 2px gold; background-color: black;"> |
|
|
|
{{User:MiszaBot/config |
|
<span style="color:white;font-weight:bold"><s>R E</s> T I R E D</font>'''</div><br></center> |
|
|
|
| archiveheader = {{talkarchive}} |
|
|
| algo = old(7d) |
|
|
| archive = User talk:JzG/Archive %(counter)d |
|
|
| counter = 218 |
|
|
| minthreadstoarchive = 1 |
|
|
| minthreadsleft = 1 |
|
|
| maxarchivesize = 32K |
|
|
}} |
|
|
{{Misplaced Pages:TPS/banner}} |
|
|
{{collapse top|Discretionary sanctions}} |
|
|
{{Ds/aware|9/11|a-a|a-i|ab|acu|aerc|ap|at|os|b|blp|cam|cc|cid|e|ecig|fg|gc|gg|ggtf|gap|gmo|ipa|lr|lw|muh-im|old|pa|pr|ps|r-i|saq|sen|sci|tm|tpm|tt|we}} |
|
|
{{collapse bottom}} |
|
|
] |
|
|
{{User:HBC Archive Indexerbot/OptIn |
|
|
|target=User talk:JzG/Archive index|mask=User talk:JzG/Archive <#>|leading_zeros=0 |indexhere=yes |
|
|
}} |
|
|
{{Centralized discussion|width=30%}} |
|
|
{{Archive box |
|
|
| archivelist = <!-- /archivelist --> |
|
|
| auto = yes |
|
|
| index = Special:PrefixIndex/User_talk:JzG/Archive |
|
|
| search = yes |
|
|
| collapsible = yes |
|
|
| collapsed = yes |
|
|
| root = user talk:JzG |
|
|
| bot = MiszaBot |
|
|
| age = 7 |
|
|
}} |
|
|
__TOC__ |
|
|
|
|
|
<center>'''This user is tired of silly drama on Misplaced Pages{{#if:{{{date|}}}| as of {{{date}}}|}}.'''</center> |
|
|
|
|
|
<div style="float:left; width:90px; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;border:1px solid #A9A9A9; background: #fff; text-align: center; padding:3px; font-size: smaller; line-height: 1.3; margin-right: 4px;"> |
|
|
<div style="width:100%; background:#808080">]</div> |
|
|
<div style="width: 100%;">{{#time:F Y|0 hours}}</div> |
|
|
<div style="font-size: x-large; width: 100%;"><span class="plainlinks" id="purgelink"></span></div> |
|
|
<div style="width:100%">{{#time:l|0 hours}}</div> |
|
|
<div style="background: #D3D3D3; color: #000;">'''{{#time:g|0 hours}}<span style="text-decoration:blink">:</span>{{#time:i a|0 hours}}''' ]</div> |
|
|
</div><!-- clock nicked from ] who nicked it from Ryulong. --> |
|
|
I am here for some very limited purposes, because some people have asked me to help in some specific cases. I am prepared to do this. I am not intending to be here much, at present. I have not yet decided whether to start using this account actively again. No, I don't want to talk about any of the foregoing, thanks, the people concerned know who they are and how to get hold of me. This is about some ongoing unresolved issues being discussed on one or more mailing lists, when that debate comes to fruition I will take a view. <b>]</b> <small>(])</small> 12:45, 18 October 2007 (UTC) |
|
|
|
|
|
* Please see ]. |
|
|
---- |
|
---- |
|
|
;Smelling pistakes |
|
]</sup>]] |
|
|
|
:In addition to bone-deep burn scars on my left hand I now also have ], so my typing is particularly erratic right now. I have a spellcheck plugin but it can't handle larger text blocks. You're welcome to fix spelling errors without pinging me, but please don't change British to American spelling or indeed vice-versa. |
|
* Bored? Looking for something to do? Try ]. |
|
|
* See my '''''' - feel free to suggest more! |
|
|
* '''My take on .''' |
|
|
---- |
|
---- |
|
|
{{wikibreak}} |
|
{{User:MiszaBot/config |
|
|
|
== God Jul och Gott Nytt År! == |
|
|algo = old(2d) |
|
|
|
<div style="border-style:solid; border-color:blue; background-color:AliceBlue; border-width:1px; text-align:left; padding:8px;" class="plainlinks"> |
|
|archive = User talk:JzG/Archives/%(monthname)s_%(year)d |
|
|
|
] |
|
}} |
|
|
|
] |
|
---- |
|
|
|
] is wishing you ]<br />Whether you celebrate your hemisphere's ] or ]<br />], ], ], ], ],<br />or the ],<br /> this is a special time of year for (almost) everyone. |
|
|
|
|
|
<br /> |
|
== I know you're annoyed == |
|
|
|
{{clear}} |
|
|
|
|
|
</div> |
|
...but calling another editor is ''never'' a helpful strategy for dispute resolution. You've been here long enough to know that. |
|
|
|
|
|
For what it's worth, I agree with you about the wording change. ](]) 17:41, 11 December 2007 (UTC) |
|
|
:I agree - this makes it look like you're carrying some kind of BADSITES crusade across the Wiki. Best not to use your admin tools in any issues related to that. ] ] 17:45, 11 December 2007 (UTC) |
|
|
|
|
|
: I use that phrase because that particular admin has, for example, undeleted articles by request of a banned user, said request being made on Misplaced Pages Review. Annoyed doesn't really cover it. <b>]</b> <small>(])</small> 18:16, 11 December 2007 (UTC) |
|
|
|
|
|
::Fine. Desysopping is handled over ]. In the meantime, namecalling doesn't help. ](]) 14:10, 12 December 2007 (UTC) |
|
|
|
|
|
:::Agreed. If you feel he's done something abusive or against policy, bring it up in proper channels. Don't use it to smear him elsewhere or to try to get the upper hand in an unrelated dispute or argument. ] (]) 14:33, 12 December 2007 (UTC) |
|
|
|
|
|
:::: It's a statement of fact. Jimbo knows about it, so do some arbitrators. <b>]</b> <small>(])</small> 18:18, 12 December 2007 (UTC) |
|
|
|
|
|
:::::No, it's namecalling. It's beneath you. Rise above. You're welcome to discuss the admin's specific actions, how they are related to banned users and/or WR, and why those actions may not be in Misplaced Pages's best interests. Calling someone a 'pet', however, distracts from the issues – look how much time we're wasting here – and stirs up trouble. Just don't do it, okay? ](]) 18:49, 12 December 2007 (UTC) |
|
|
|
|
|
:::::: Viridae undeleted an article created by ] using a sockpuppet while he was banned, on a client of his, following a request he made on Misplaced Pages Review. I was the admin who deleted the article, and I deleted it because it was created by a banned user evading his ban. That is an unambiguous fact. <b>]</b> <small>(])</small> 19:30, 12 December 2007 (UTC) |
|
|
|
|
|
== Really, really bad ]s from a new admin == |
|
|
|
|
|
Setting new lows in thank-you spam: |
|
|
|
|
|
<!-- ------------------------------------------ --> |
|
|
<div style="padding: 5px; background: #B0C4DE; border-style: solid; border-width: 10px; border-color: #00008B; font-family: Trebuchet MS, sans-serif; font-size: 100%; "> |
|
|
<center> |
|
|
<div style="margin-top: 3px; padding-top: 9px; padding-bottom: 9px; padding-left: 9px; padding-right: 9px; width: 250px; float: center;">]</div> |
|
|
</center> |
|
|
<div class="NavFrame" style="padding: 0px; border-style: none; font-size: 100%;"> |
|
|
<div class="NavFrame" style="padding: 0px; border-style: none;"> |
|
|
<div class="NavHead" style="background: white; text-align: center;"><small>Click there for ] spam haikus!</small> → → →</div> |
|
|
<div class="NavContent" style="display: none; text-align: center;"> |
|
|
] |
|
|
''Janitor's new tools''<br /> |
|
|
''Spam must stop -- will ] act?''<br /> |
|
|
''Ooops, .com ]'' |
|
|
<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /> |
|
|
|
|
|
] |
|
|
''], new tools''<br /> |
|
|
''Earnest newbie furrows brow''<br /> |
|
|
''Fare thee well ]'' |
|
|
<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /> |
|
|
|
|
|
] |
|
|
''New mess all about''<br /> |
|
|
''] mop''<br /> |
|
|
''Not supporter's fault'' |
|
|
<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /> |
|
|
|
|
|
] |
|
|
''] so grateful''<br /> |
|
|
''Misplaced Pages trembles''<br /> |
|
|
''Watch out ]'' |
|
|
<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /> |
|
|
|
|
|
] |
|
|
''A. B. wonders why''<br /> |
|
|
''Copyright always confused''<br /> |
|
|
''Fair use, farewell, bye'' |
|
|
<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /> |
|
|
|
|
|
] |
|
|
''] is ]''<br /> |
|
|
''Shucks those ] are tricky!''<br /> |
|
|
''Will get it straight soon.'' |
|
|
<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /> |
|
|
|
|
|
] |
|
|
''] elephants'' <br /> |
|
|
'']'' <br /> |
|
|
''Must ]'' |
|
|
<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /> |
|
|
|
|
|
] |
|
|
''Wiki ] not.''<br /> |
|
|
''], knowledge wings'' ]<br /> |
|
|
''But ] are about'' |
|
|
<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /> |
|
|
|
|
|
] |
|
|
<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /> |
|
|
''Dear RfA friend,''<br> |
|
|
''I will learn, chaos will fade''<br> |
|
|
''Thanks so much ... ] |
|
|
<br /><br /> |
|
|
<div ALIGN = LEFT><small><small><small>''This RfA thank you card is based on ] originally done by ]''</small></small></small></div> |
|
|
</div></div></div></div> |
|
|
<!-- ------------------------------------------ --><!-- |
|
|
--><!-- |
|
|
--><!--]--> <!-- |
|
|
--><!--]--> |
|
|
|
|
|
Guy, thanks so much for your support (from our senior spam-fighter no less!)<br />--<font face="Futura">] ] </font> 15:41, 12 December 2007 (UTC) |
|
|
|
|
|
== archive templates at the ] == |
|
|
|
|
|
I just wanted to drop you a line - we tend not to box-up discussions at the WQA in archive templates. I don't think anyone in the future will revert you, but it's just not common practice, so I thought I'd let you know. Regards. --] (]) 16:06, 12 December 2007 (UTC) |
|
|
* And I ''do'' tend to box up, remove, delete and otherwise expunge gratuitous abuse of process by forum-shopping POV-pushers attempting to gain advantage in a content dispute. It is not acceptable to damage the reputation of others by leaving this crap lying around. <b>]</b> <small>(])</small> 18:16, 12 December 2007 (UTC) |
|
|
::That's not a very productive attitude. Everyone recognized the lack of merit in the complaint. You don't appear to be a WQA regular, and I'm just explaining to you how we do things. Yelling at me about the fact that this complaint was frivolous is not going to help - I'm the primary respondent and the one who made clear the fact that the complaint was not appropriate. Chill out. Just try to let the WQA do its work. If you'd like to lend a hand, feel free, but this kind of attitude is not helpful and isn't how we archive things on the WQA. Please respect the fact this was a simple courtesy note, and that your urge to archive the discussion is not generally how we conduct ourselves (nor does it really "expunge" anything). --] (]) 20:29, 12 December 2007 (UTC) |
|
|
::: It's a fine and productive attitude. we don't need permanent memorials to the idiocies of POV pushers. <b>]</b> <small>(])</small> 20:35, 12 December 2007 (UTC) |
|
|
::::Discussions on Misplaced Pages are not purged or expunged, except in very extreme cases. If you don't like that, you should not take it up with me personally. --] (]) 21:01, 12 December 2007 (UTC) |
|
|
::::: Yes they are, all the time. We delete trolling, harassment, vexatious and uncertified RfCs and all manner of other silliness. If we are prepared to blank sockpuppeteers' user pages as a courtesy (which we undoubtedly are) we should certainly not be reluctant to remove vexatious and querulous complaints <b>]</b> <small>(])</small> 22:03, 12 December 2007 (UTC) |
|
|
::::::Once again, and for the last time, I dropped you a courtesy note about ''the format'' with which we close discussions on the WQA. This is not a moment for you to mount a tirade against people who make complaints you consider inappropriate. Just follow the format of the alert board, or don't, but I thought I'd let you know how what ''format'' you are ''supposed'' to use to label a discussion as resolved, complete, or otherwise over. --] (]) 22:28, 12 December 2007 (UTC) |
|
|
::::::: You're more than welcome to ignore me, but please note that the user in question has a history of vexatious complaints and I want to make sure he bloody well stops it. <b>]</b> <small>(])</small> 22:31, 12 December 2007 (UTC) |
|
|
::::::::Sure, and that has '''nothing''' to do with the ''format'' of the WQA. --] (]) 00:50, 13 December 2007 (UTC) |
|
|
|
|
|
== Talk page warnings == |
|
|
|
|
|
A link to would have been nice. Talk page warnings are obviously inappropriate when applied to productive contributors as part of ongoing disputes (I've seen it used to rile other editors so many times). On the other hand, I'm not going to spend my time working out if the user who just blanked a section of WP:WQA with an inadequate summary is a pure vandal, or a disgruntled administrator. |
|
|
|
|
|
Being an administrator might give you extra tools and powers, but does not guarantee you special treatment. If you want to be treated like an editor in good standing, try behaving like one. -- ] ] 00:10, 13 December 2007 (UTC) |
|
|
|
|
|
* What, you mean you're in the habit of using template warnings without taking even the basic step of seeing whether it's an established user? Wow. <b>]</b> <small>(])</small> 00:21, 13 December 2007 (UTC) |
|
|
::I skimmed your talk page. Try stepping back and reading through it objectively. See what another editor might think of you. -- ] ] 00:49, 13 December 2007 (UTC) |
|
|
::: Try that the other way round. Been harassed off wiki lately? Had anyone impersonate you to try to bring Misplaced Pages into disrepute? No? Come back when you have. <b>]</b> <small>(])</small> 08:07, 13 December 2007 (UTC) |
|
|
::::Hey - I wasn't the one blanking sections of WP:WQA. -- ] ] 10:36, 13 December 2007 (UTC) |
|
|
|
|
|
== Images in policy pages == |
|
|
|
|
|
I noticed you an image I had removed from ]. Maybe it's just me, but I find gratuitous (esp. humorous) images in policy pages awkward and inappropriate. ]'s another example. At any rate, I won't remove those images if others think they serve a good purpose, I just don't see that positive purpose or how they add anything useful to those pages. But that's not the reason why I removed that image. If the images were merely decorative and didn't harm the appearance of the page, I wouldn't mind either way. But actually, I think that since people are most commonly being pointed to those pages in case of violations/warnings, those images are really inappropriate and detrimental to the appearance and purpose of the pages in that they create a somewhat "childish" atmosphere. Policies are not fun and games, certainly not for those looking them up for a specific purpose. I ] I ] I 10:23, ], 2007 |
|
|
|
|
|
== Stop. Now. == |
|
|
|
|
|
You are forum shopping your content disputes in a quite unacceptable manner. It is time to stop it, please. To look at your recent actions one would conclude that every single editor in that dispute, with the sole exception of you, is abusive in some way. I find that implausible. <b>]</b> <small>(])</small> 07:57, 12 December 2007 (UTC) |
|
|
:What are you talking about? Forum shopping? Wouldn't that mean that I've been leaving messages on a lot of different user's talk pages? I haven't been doing that, so I don't know what you mean. Kindly, would you please clarify so that I can understand what you mean? Thank you. ] (]) 16:34, 13 December 2007 (UTC) |
|
|
:: Posting the same rehash at ], ], user talk pages, etc. all in an effort to ]. ] <small>(]) (])</small> 17:22, 13 December 2007 (UTC) |
|
|
|
|
|
== Arbitration on cold fusion == |
|
|
|
|
|
Please note that you are cited in an arbitration request. See ]. ] (]) 19:29, 13 December 2007 (UTC) |
|
|
* Ten points for chutzpah, zero for style. <b>]</b> <small>(])</small> 20:01, 13 December 2007 (UTC) |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
== ]! Are you still out there? == |
|
== Response to your essay == |
|
|
|
<!-- ] 09:57, 15 January 2032 (UTC) -->{{User:ClueBot III/DoNotArchiveUntil|1957773473}} |
|
|
Hi ]! I was going through some old ArbCom cases and ran into one where you had added some statements. I realized that I haven't spoken to you in quite some time, and I see that you haven't made any edits since May... That sucks! I don't want to see someone like you go! If anything, I hope that you're doing well and that you're happy and that you'll someday return here. I just wanted to leave you a message and let you know that I was thinking about you... Keep in touch. :-) ]<sup><small><b>] ]</b></small></sup> 23:05, 9 January 2022 (UTC) |
|
|
|
|
|
|
:I hope it goes without saying, despite the fact that I'm saying it, that many of us feel the same way. Happy new year ]] 23:13, 9 January 2022 (UTC) |
|
I've written a to your . ] (]) 03:53, 14 December 2007 (UTC) |
|
|
:Oh goodie...can you send me some no doze so I can stay awake long enough to read that rant? Seriously....had you spent the same amount of time typing all those kb's of opinion, and put it towards our articles, we might be able to conclude that your purpose on Misplaced Pages is something other than stirring up trouble, looking for false boogie-men and trolling.--] (]) 04:28, 14 December 2007 (UTC) |
|
|
:: We already know what Dan thinks anyway, because it's in The Register. That's why The Register is a crap source for this story, it starts from an assumption of bad faith and extrapolates form there, exactly as Dan has been doing. <b>]</b> <small>(])</small> 09:20, 14 December 2007 (UTC) |
|
|
:Hmmz, kinda ironic, isn't it... ] (]) 13:35, 14 December 2007 (UTC) |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
::We didn't cross paths very often lately, JzG, but we could really use you back. If you get the urge to return, please say "Yes!" <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:#800080;">]</span> <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">] ]</sup> 01:14, 15 January 2022 (UTC) |
|
== Deletion of AccuCMS == |
|
|
|
:::October JzG sighting at ]. Does my heart good. --] (]) 20:57, 25 October 2022 (UTC) |
|
|
::::Lovely to hear from you! I have spent the past two-and-a-bit years working at incredibly high stress for a hospital. In that time I have retired around 80% of their legacy application and server estate, instituted architectural guidelines and piloted the process for demand review, reduced the measured risk burden by around 80%, instituted objective risk monitoring using ], and I've just proposed (and had accepted) a plan to remediate or mitigate most of the rest. I have, in short, been busy in that there real life of which you read, and that really wasn't going to fit in with having to be nice to people who sincerely believe that Ashlii Babbit was the real victim of the "legitimate political discourse" on Jan 6 2020. |
|
|
::::I have a week's leave. I have 28 days to take before year end, having managed I think three days off this year so far (including weekends). And because I have an offshore team and an onshore customer, my working day can be 8am to 3am. |
|
|
::::I thought I'd drop in :-) ''']''' <small>(] - ])</small> 18:44, 26 October 2022 (UTC) |
|
|
:::::Yikes, sounds like, umm..., a lot of responsibility. There will be plenty for you to do here when you are free! ] (]) 22:50, 26 October 2022 (UTC) |
|
|
:::::Glad you dropped by! ] (]) 02:19, 27 October 2022 (UTC) |
|
|
:::::Glad to hear you're OK - and busy, by the sounds of things! Hope you enjoy your break. ]] 11:17, 27 October 2022 (UTC) |
|
|
::::::If Guy doesn't look at ] real soon now, where Eddy is being accused of plagiarism, I may be forced to contact him on bookfarce. That would mean giving Guy my real name. He always forgets me. - ]the ] 16:00, 27 October 2022 (UTC) |
|
|
:::::::I try never to remember people's RW names unless they are "out" on Misplaced Pages. Even when they out themselves, this has led to huge problems, e.g. with a user whose identity was revealed by accident off-wiki, showing him to be the source of fact-washing his own side in Misplaced Pages disputes via a journalist. That ended badly for everyone. ''']''' <small>(] - ])</small> 16:16, 27 October 2022 (UTC) |
|
|
::::::::Very happy see the little JzG! ] ] ] 19:56, 27 October 2022 (UTC). |
|
|
:::::Hah! Good to see you're still around! ] 20:48, 27 October 2022 (UTC) |
|
|
::::::This is a few months late, but welcome back! Wishing you well. ''']] (])''' 09:40, 12 December 2022 (UTC) |
|
|
:Welcome indeed! Just came across your signature ]. It's always great to run in to another 'old-timer'. Hope you're well, ] <sup><b>(])</b></sup> 11:21, 23 May 2023 (UTC) |
|
|
|
|
|
|
` |
|
There is no justifiable reason for the AccuCMS page to have been deleted, when it clearly meets the test for notability, including references to the material contained in the Misplaced Pages article in NY Times and Wall Street Journal. It is completely arbitrary that that article is being declared as "Spam", while it actually covers a notable topic, and at the same time a SLEW of other articles in the content management system list that are ... recitations of product specifications or the like ... are secure. Explain how the AccuCMS article is not notable, and how one of the other entries in the content management system list that has less information, no references, etc.... is.] (]) 12:03, 14 December 2007 (UTC) |
|
.jpg)
