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The result was '''No consensus''' --] 23:52, 9 January 2008 (UTC) | |||
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original research plot summary for a fictional location. ] (]) 19:00, 2 January 2008 (UTC) | original research plot summary for a fictional location. ] (]) 19:00, 2 January 2008 (UTC) | ||
*'''Weak delete'''. The city is possibly notable enough for an article. Some sources would help make that decision easier. If there are none (it's been tagged for sources for 6 months), I can't possibly justify a keep. --] (]) 20:38, 2 January 2008 (UTC) | *<s>'''Weak delete'''</s>. The city is possibly notable enough for an article. Some sources would help make that decision easier. If there are none (it's been tagged for sources for 6 months), I can't possibly justify a keep. --] (]) 20:38, 2 January 2008 (UTC) | ||
*'''Redirect''' to ].] (]) 21:07, 2 January 2008 (UTC) | |||
*'''Keep/Redirect''' I say a new article with list of all fictional locations in Resident Evil series (Since there are so many). ] (] • ]) 21:24, 2 January 2008 (UTC) | |||
*'''Weak Keep''' As with the recently deleted article on S.T.A.R.S, this appears to be another issue of a split due to ]. As is currently under discussion ], I find it distressing that a split for size reasons removes the concept of ]. -] (]) 21:55, 2 January 2008 (UTC) | |||
*'''Keep''', three games and two movies make it quite likely that sources exist for this. We have enough awful, unnavigable, logic-free lists of fictional things, no need to add to the pile.--<strong>]</strong>] 22:08, 2 January 2008 (UTC) | |||
*'''Neutral''' - through film and games, this has become a notable locale, though I think the article, as written contains either a lot of ], or has needs a great many sources. Redirecting wouldn't necessarily solve that. ] (]) 23:39, 2 January 2008 (UTC) | |||
*'''Delete and Redirect''' to a list of locations in Resident Evil or something of the sort, per UzEE. '''] (])''' 00:41, 3 January 2008 (UTC) | |||
*'''Keep''', per Nydas cheers, ] (] '''·''' ]) 11:54, 3 January 2008 (UTC) | |||
* <span style="font-size: smaller;">Note: This debate has been added to the ]. ] (]) 16:44, 3 January 2008 (UTC)</span> | |||
*'''Keep''' as the location is the setting of numerous games and films. Sincerely, --<span style="font-family:Times New Roman;">]</span><sup>'']''</sup> 21:28, 3 January 2008 (UTC) | |||
*'''Delete''' - Asserts no notability, as such size issues or how "important" it is are irrelevant. ] (]) 21:55, 3 January 2008 (UTC) | |||
*'''Delete''' - I don't see any encyclopaedia material here. ] (] ]) 01:33, 4 January 2008 (UTC) | |||
*'''Keep''' - clearly this is just a ] issue. Insisting that the article be taken in absolute isolation without the sources and notability provided by the main ] article is ridiculous and totally counterproductive. ] (]) 07:31, 4 January 2008 (UTC) | |||
**Then use the sources in the ] article, there's no problem with that if they can establish Raccoon City's notability. The article itself can't establish notability for another article, though. --] (]) 08:03, 4 January 2008 (UTC) | |||
*'''Keep''' UsaSatsui, I think you have just agreed that it is sourceable. ''']''' (]) 12:38, 4 January 2008 (UTC) | |||
**I believe it ''can'' be sourced. I'm just not sure the proper sources are out there. I think the ] sources could do it. I'll go '''Neutral''' for now, pending a keep when the sources go in. --] (]) 17:04, 4 January 2008 (UTC) | |||
*'''Comment''' - I just did a g search, and found nothing but blogs or sites related to the video game (not independent). ] (]) 15:54, 4 January 2008 (UTC) | |||
*'''Redirect''' to '']'' until someone can write it up with notability. --] | (]) 21:47, 4 January 2008 (UTC) | |||
*'''Delete'''. Just a reorganized ] summary and a list of elements of that plot. No real-world context or analysis. Doubtful there is any relevant information to be merged that isn't already included elsewhere in the series' articles. ] (]) 18:03, 5 January 2008 (UTC) | |||
*'''Keep'''; sourceable notable material.--] (]) 16:41, 6 January 2008 (UTC) | |||
*'''Merge?''' This article goes into too much detail for an encyclopedia, and large parts of it are plot repetition better left to the game articles. This might be best if cut down and presented as part of a ] article, or something similar. ''']]''' 16:17, 8 January 2008 (UTC) | |||
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The result was No consensus --JForget 23:52, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
Raccoon City
original research plot summary for a fictional location. Ridernyc (talk) 19:00, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
Weak delete. The city is possibly notable enough for an article. Some sources would help make that decision easier. If there are none (it's been tagged for sources for 6 months), I can't possibly justify a keep. --UsaSatsui (talk) 20:38, 2 January 2008 (UTC)- Redirect to Resident Evil.Kww (talk) 21:07, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
- Keep/Redirect I say a new article with list of all fictional locations in Resident Evil series (Since there are so many). UzEE (Talk • Contribs) 21:24, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
- Weak Keep As with the recently deleted article on S.T.A.R.S, this appears to be another issue of a split due to WP:SIZE. As is currently under discussion here, I find it distressing that a split for size reasons removes the concept of WP:NNC. -Verdatum (talk) 21:55, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
- Keep, three games and two movies make it quite likely that sources exist for this. We have enough awful, unnavigable, logic-free lists of fictional things, no need to add to the pile.--Nydas 22:08, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
- Neutral - through film and games, this has become a notable locale, though I think the article, as written contains either a lot of WP:OR, or has needs a great many sources. Redirecting wouldn't necessarily solve that. LonelyBeacon (talk) 23:39, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
- Delete and Redirect to a list of locations in Resident Evil or something of the sort, per UzEE. Malinaccier (talk) 00:41, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
- Keep, per Nydas cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 11:54, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been added to the list of video game deletions. Someone another (talk) 16:44, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
- Keep as the location is the setting of numerous games and films. Sincerely, --Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles 21:28, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
- Delete - Asserts no notability, as such size issues or how "important" it is are irrelevant. Judgesurreal777 (talk) 21:55, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
- Delete - I don't see any encyclopaedia material here. User:Krator (t c) 01:33, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
- Keep - clearly this is just a WP:SIZE issue. Insisting that the article be taken in absolute isolation without the sources and notability provided by the main Resident Evil article is ridiculous and totally counterproductive. Torc2 (talk) 07:31, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
- Then use the sources in the Resident Evil article, there's no problem with that if they can establish Raccoon City's notability. The article itself can't establish notability for another article, though. --UsaSatsui (talk) 08:03, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
- Keep UsaSatsui, I think you have just agreed that it is sourceable. DGG (talk) 12:38, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
- I believe it can be sourced. I'm just not sure the proper sources are out there. I think the Resident Evil sources could do it. I'll go Neutral for now, pending a keep when the sources go in. --UsaSatsui (talk) 17:04, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
- Comment - I just did a g search, and found nothing but blogs or sites related to the video game (not independent). LonelyBeacon (talk) 15:54, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
- Redirect to Resident Evil 2 until someone can write it up with notability. --Lenin and McCarthy | (Complain here) 21:47, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
- Delete. Just a reorganized WP:NOT#PLOT summary and a list of elements of that plot. No real-world context or analysis. Doubtful there is any relevant information to be merged that isn't already included elsewhere in the series' articles. Doctorfluffy (talk) 18:03, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
- Keep; sourceable notable material.--Prosfilaes (talk) 16:41, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
- Merge? This article goes into too much detail for an encyclopedia, and large parts of it are plot repetition better left to the game articles. This might be best if cut down and presented as part of a Universe of Resident Evil article, or something similar. Pagrashtak 16:17, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
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