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			I emailed you with my university IP locations. I am not sure what else to tell you. If you have any extra questions tell me and I'll do my best to answer as truthfully as I can. --] (]) 23:04, 28 May 2012 (UTC)
	] has created a sockpuppet, ], after being blocked. See and in the ] article. Also see the ] conversations.--] 01:26, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
	:Blocked, checkuser came back positive. ] <sup> ]</sup> 10:31, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
			I'm being a cranky pants so I want you to know I've searched your name in the noticeboards and wow. I completely get your suspicion given what you seem to deal with alot especially with me being pretty savvy and AR being a long term editor with lots of unfriends. If you want me to try and hammer down some of the previous IPs I used I can try. I'm also ok with emailing you the operating systems and browsers I've used. That way you can check me out for peace of mind. Drop a message if you do. I'd rather get that cleared up than have a cloud of suspicion hanging on me. --] (]) 02:04, 29 May 2012 (UTC)
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			:That's fine. It had crossed my mind you could possibly be my old friend ] making a reappearance, as recovered memory is rather his topic-area, but it seemed a shade unlikely based on your edits anyway and I am now perfectly satisfied that you are 1) not RE and 2)acting in good faith. Many thanks for helping to clear this up. Best, ] (]) 08:09, 29 May 2012 (UTC)
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			No problem. You were nice about it and given what you deal with a lot I can completely understand. Thank you for being gentle about your suspicions and giving me the chance to clear things up. --] (]) 00:56, 30 May 2012 (UTC)
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	The LGBT studies project has been rather quiet of late. Though we've added over 180 new members in the last year, only a small percentage are active participants. If you haven't visited our project or talk page in a while, please stop by for a look. Also, if you happen to bump into another editor who you feel might enjoy working with us, please extend an invitation. There's lot's do do, and the active members would sincerely appreciate some help.
			== recent closure ==
	Welcome to the 11 new members that joined us in September: ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], and ]!
			Hi. I was, you might guess, a bit disappointed at the close of ]. One part of your rationale suggested that the title is politically charged; this may be the case, but we have kept ] and dozens of categories in that tree; and consensus is to use the term as a geographic grouping when it properly refers to the entire British isles (which the article did). In any case, if the title was *really* inappropriate (in spite of books using the same name), then a rename could have been considered (I had proposed something like ''Multilateral relationships in the atlantic archipelago''. So I guess I'm not clear on why an article about the multilateral and bilateral relationships between the countries in the archipelgo, besides Ireland-UK relations, is worthy of deletion - you yourself noted the existence of sources (there are even academic research centers devoted to the topic); the ] as a multilateral body - and tons of ink has been spilled talking about the multilateral politics of that and associated bodies. As to the content, I barely had time to write it, as it was nominated for deletion shortly after being created; and all of it was copy/pasted to ] and then jealously guarded there intact by the same people who were voting for deletion! So they actually seemed to like the content... Finally, did you see the recent news articles I added to the bottom of the discussion? These were just a taste, illustrating multilateral and bi-lateral politics and relationships that were clearly *not* Ireland-UK. Finally, pending further discussions, would you mind restoring the article to my user space? Even BHG had mentioned she was not opposed to this. anyway I'm just hoping to hear more about your rationale, and whether and how the article might be reframed so it could survive on its own; I just can't see it as just part of Ireland-UK relations... Thanks!
			ps: I had meant to add this to the 'academics' section; a quote "The development of Irish–Scottish studies has offered a productive means ‘of moving beyond an often debilitating and obsessive concern with relationship to England, and so of opening up new horizons’" There is so much more... --] (]) 16:11, 29 May 2012 (UTC)
			:Of course I will happily restore the most recent version to your userspace.
			:As regards further rationale for the closure...clearly the term "British Isles" is somewhat loaded, but this is mostly true purely in a political context. I don't think too many people would have problems with the term in a geographic context, beyond the Irish nationalists, I guess. The problem is that the very title of this piece links "politics" and the "British Isles" together. This is just going to be a drama magnet, and more likely a very vicious battleground.
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			:The bigger problem, however, is one of scope. This felt like it was supposed to be in part a "Description of the current political trends as far as the bits of the BI deal with each other", part "Political history of the British Isles" (which might just about be an article, I guess, a subpage of ]), part "new trends in the scholarly analysis of the politics of the BI". That's about 3 different potential pieces all rolled into one, with predictable results. What was deleted definitely had some usable content, but as you yourself recognize, I think, it needs reframing. Good luck. ] (]) 17:44, 29 May 2012 (UTC)
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			:::Naturally not. I almost expect it with controversial, tight closes like this. Though please note that I am not trying to bar you from creating some future version, although I think a different title would be best. ] (]) 17:49, 29 May 2012 (UTC)
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			::::Hi, a few follow up questions, if you don't mind.
			::::#You stated above that there was an issue about the title of the article. If you (like others) see that as a problem, isn't a rename the more appropriate path?
			::::#Secondly, you said the scope is a problem. Scope was the main contentious point of debate with RA/BHG; the question there seemed to be, are Ireland-UK bilateral relations sufficient to describe the scope of all of the inter-country political activity that occurs in the archipelago? You seemed to agree, stating "I am not persuaded that this is not better handled as a series of "bilateral relations" articles"; but couldn't the same argument be made about ] or ] for example (which has a politics section that could be expanded? I guess I'm not sure why 'bilateral' was judged by you to be sufficient here, esp given existence of multilateral bodies amongst the exact countries described by the term ].
			::::#Finally, I'm not sure I understand your conclusion re the academic approach; "Clearly such scholarship exists, but it does not seem extensive enough to support the burden this article would place on it" - please recall that this article has only existed a few days, and we have only scratched the surface of the literature, and I mainly added the academic section there as a stub to help establish the notability of studying politics in the British isles, to show that others have taken a similar approach (since the raison-d'etre of the article was under seige) - but I actually think post-nationalist archipalegic studies itself merits a whole article. In any case, there are several academic research centers set up to study culture, relations, and politics in the British isles using an archipelagic perspective; I'm sure others exist, it's not always easy to find in google because they use many terms "northern archipelago", "atlantic archipelago", "these isles", etc etc but they certainly exist - and I don't think any of them would say they're just studying British-Irish politics (ps: FWIW the restored article now lives here: ]). Thanks! --] (]) 20:25, 29 May 2012 (UTC)
			Always happy to answer questions. Taking these in order:
			1. If the title was the only problem but the article itself was adequately scoped (with just a misleading title), then a rename would be more appropriate, yes. I do not think such was the case here.
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			2. I do not necessarily see the "scope" issues in the same way as BHG ''et al''. The article, as it was, certainly had scope problems, but I am perfectly open to persuasion - and indeed you make a good case - and that this is not all reducible to UK-Ireland relations. The problem - as I see it - was not that the article was useless expansion of whatever UK-Ireland relations articles we have, but more than it was trying to do too many different things at once and was completely unclear about its goals in the process. The result was something of a nightmarish mess.
	The ] articles continue to be a point of controversy both within and outside of our community. Various editors have suggested that to include them as LGBT Project related somehow taints the project and brings Misplaced Pages into disrepute. Other editors have stated that the articles, and especially the Pederasty article, are part of the core of LGBT studies. Well meaning editors continue to remove our tags from the articles themselves as well as the talk pages. If you have time, please read the articles and watchlist them to protect them from vandalism and well meaning but counterproductive edits.
			3. One way to narrow the scope to something more usable would be to write just such an article on "post-nationalist archipalegic studies", which sounds like something we might benefit from. The "burden" comment relates to this; the scholarship in this area can probably stand a more narrowly focussed article, but not one so sprawling and wide-ranging as we had. Best, ] (]) 21:39, 29 May 2012 (UTC)
			:Ok, thanks. I guess we'll have to agree to disagree that it was a "nightmarish mess"; several people complimented the content, and several people where were 'opposed' to the article (RA, Snappy) jealously guarded a copy/paste of the same ''exact'' content in (carefully copying over any new edits to the original as they came in...) as a ploy to prove their point that it was a fork, so I don't think your assessment of it as a "mess" was a consensus view. Also please recall that the article itself barely had time to attract other editors to the cause; who is going to spend time editing an article currently planned for deletion... I guess I'm sad it never got a chance, and I feel political correctness had a lot to do with it. Anyway thanks for your responses, I'm considering next steps now. --] (]) 14:35, 30 May 2012 (UTC)
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	Where do you advice us to go exactly? Arbitration being the highest dispute resolution process makes it impossible for us to "go away". We have concerns and problems, which need to be addressed. And ignoring them will only make them worse. Also just out of curiosity can I ask you why HajjiPiruz was blocked, for reverting or not justifying his edit? --] 22:24, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
	:That thread was not productive. It had degenerated into nothing more than everyone whinging at everybody else - the participants in the wars, and the admins trying to keep the battles under control. No one really had a genuine complaint. Write some articles and next time someone ''really'' does something wrong, come and talk to me rationally and reasonably.
			Since you blocked Bozoklu, you should know of two edits done by IPs(both are located in Tokat, Turkey), both of which have an anti-Persian POV. This may not be enough to initiate a sockpuppet investigation, so I thought I should let you know. --] (]) 00:42, 31 May 2012 (UTC)
	:I have no idea why Hajji Piruz was blocked. I was not involved in that decision at any stage. Judging purely by his block log, he seems to have exceeded his revert limitation. Cheers, ] <sup> ]</sup> 22:28, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
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	Hey, can you please (semi)protect ]? It seems to me that since July 2006, some anons have been reinserting the same commercial unnecessary links. In my opinion, it would be best to remove all external links now, but I leave it upto you. Last few times, I left one link, as the article is short on references. I think that was a mistake in handling that anon. I vaguely remember some wiki website where one requests page protection. Which site was it? Thanks ]<sup>]</sup><sub>]</sub> 13:52, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
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	This arbitration case has closed and the final decision can be found at the link above. ] is subject to a comprehensive editing restriction for one year. He is limited to one revert per page per week (excepting obvious vandalism), and is required to discuss any content reversions on the page's talk page. If he exceeds this limit, fails to discuss a content reversion, or makes any edits which are judged by an administrator to be uncivil, personal attacks, or assumptions of bad faith, he may be blocked as set forth in the decision's enforcement provision. This notice is given by a Clerk on behalf of the Arbitration Committee. ] 19:51, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
	:The right decision, I think. Should kill off the disruptive editing without landing us with a new sockfarm to deal with - Kuntan and Hkelkar are quite bad enough as it is. Thank you. ] <sup> ]</sup> 19:59, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
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	DYK has a red warning! It's boiling over! Needs update! ] 20:24, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
	Thanks anyway. Red warning has been fixed. ] 21:30, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
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	I don't see any changes. Are they going to happen? ] 05:56, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
	:Yes, but only when I have the time to get around it to it. I'm pretty busy at the moment and don't have the relevant reference material immediately to hand anyway. Whatever you do in the meantime is your choice. ] <sup> ]</sup> 08:58, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
	==Veropedia==
	Sorry to hear you are leaving, I'm off to different pastures new too. Why doesn't ] have a wp article? I hear Danny is running it, is it an official Jimbo thing, or an ad hoc 'diamond mining' operation? --] 01:09, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
	:Ad hoc diamond mining, certainly ''not'' anything to do with Jimbo. Hey, why don't you sign on? We'd be delighted to have you on board, let me know if you want an account. All Vero "editing" takes places here, so I'm still around WP quite a lot, but trying to stay away from all the tedious drama. We could certainly use someone with your fantastic editing skills. Cheers, ] <sup> ]</sup> 13:14, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
	::That's tempting if Jimbo's not involved - I'm out of WP in part, because of the laughable management that has let the 'lunatic take over the asylum'. But I'm just slightly dubious as VP's address seems to be identical to Mediawiki's , I wonder if Jimbo's realised his projects a busted flush and set up Veropedia to plug the credibility gap? If this is not the case, then yes please. You can email me if you prefer. Kind regards --] 11:24, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
	:::I believe Danny's sent you an email about this, but for everyone else here's the explanation: that address is actually a postbox. Danny, who's running Veropedia, lives near the WMF offices, as he ''used to'' work there. WMF get their mail sent there, and as Danny lives so near to the postbox, he uses it for Vero as well. But Veropedia has ''nothing'' to do with the WikiMedia Foundation or Jimmy Wales, nor would I be involved if it did.
	:::Speaking for myself, I would love to have you on board, as, I'm sure, would Giano and Bishonen. Please let me know your email address and we can set you up with an account. ] <sup> ]</sup> 20:07, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
	:::: Um, the post-office box is a bad idea- it just looks really bad. I would strongly suggest that another post office box be used. ] 01:25, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
	::::::Did you get my e-mail about a few articles, etc?--] (]) 23:10, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
	==VartanM==
	One more report , this is really turning into endless task, until parole is applied to everyone equally for constructive editing. Thanks. ] 01:20, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
	:Can Atabek explain which policy or guideline I violated. Another baseless report. ] 03:55, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
	::Also, it took Atabek two days, since his return from WikiVacation to report ], ], ] and ]. If this isn't a battleground approach I don't know what is. ] 06:31, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
	==Thanks==
	I suppose some think I am a son-of-a-bitch, but I am definitely not. If people are kind ot me, I am always kind in return. I do try very hard to let most trolling roll off me, but there does come a point that it is very hard to ignore. Anyway, I appreciate you unblocking me recently...I was offline the entire time anyway, so was rather surprised when I was blocked for removing a warning about the impending block simply with the edit summary of "bye"...oh well.--] 05:56, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
	:No problem. Really, the failure of the arbitrators to give us any sort of clear resolution on the matter of attack sites is more to blame here than any one person, or persons. ] <sup> ]</sup> 13:14, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
	== Veropedia thanks ==
	Hi Moreschi, thanks for the account. I went over there, and now I'm so confused! The help system there needs help. Is there a "Veropedia for Dummies" somewhere? --]] 12:02, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
	:Another question: there's a forums link. Does that require separate registration? --]] 12:07, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
	::OK, I'll deal with that later. I get the feeling that I'll still be more active here than there, because the learning curve is much steeper there. Thanks again. --]] 12:11, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
	:::Its still in development, you are free to stop on at http://en.veropedia.com/irc/irc.cgi. I can help you over IRC, we might have some bugs in our system, who knows! —— ''']'''</font><sup>]</sup> 19:30, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
	Curious. I never heard nothing about this Veropedia thing, and it was only by stalking your edits (I wanted to find find out if you'd found other bad links to ]) that I tripped over it. I must be living in a cave. If you are after subject experts, ] is a genuine, published, Anglo-Saxonist, and expert on things East Anglian, and a nice guy too. He's been a bit under the weather, but perhaps you can tempt him to try Veropedia. Toodle pip! ] ] 22:43, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
	:Hi, Angus! Good to talk to you again! I will certainly talk to Dr Plunkett and try to get him on board, thank you for the heads-up.
	:And while we're tempting him, how about we try to tempt you, eh? It's fun work that benefits enwiki, as you'll see if you check out the FAQ . Have a read through that and check the site out generally. Please do let me know if you want an account to upload stuff and I'll get it it done ASAP. Cheers, ] <sup> ]</sup> 23:40, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
	:: I would also recommend Antandrus, if you haven't already snagged him. :) --] 23:43, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
	:::Got him, though he's been busy recently and I don't think he's really had much time to upload stuff. What about you, though Mr Unknown? We don't have you, do we? Would you consider signing on? All help is welcome. Cheers, ] <sup> ]</sup> 23:57, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
	== Undelete request ==
	An editor has asked for a ] of ]. Since you closed the deletion discussion for this article or speedy-deleted it, you might want to participate in the deletion review. ] 13:12, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
	== Thank You ==
	For your kind words regarding my revision of the ] article. As my user page shows, I'm an amateur classicist, and am interested in these kind of projects, and it seems the new Veropedia is the place to do this seriously. Since you are "out of the office" for the week, I'll direct my request for an account to one of your suggested admins. Again, Thx ] 20:35, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
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	:Thank you! ] <sup> ]</sup> 08:49, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
	== RfC Fairness ==
	Hi Moreschi:
			Take care, ] (]) 07:51, 29 July 2012 (UTC)
	I'm putting this note here so as not to clutter your ArbCom Election Q & A page. As noted there, my question re RfC fairness was '''not''' aimed at you. I'm asking all the ArbCom candidates the same question.
			==Notification of RFC/U concerning Youreallycan==
	Having said that, my only experience of the RfC process has been in two Homeopathy RfC's so I certainly had those in mind in asking my question.
			I'd like to notify you, as a previous blocking administrator, that I've initiated a Request for Comments/User concerning {{user|Youreallycan}}. The RFC/U, which mentions your block, can be read at ]. ] (]) 14:34, 5 August 2012 (UTC)
	My concern about fairness '''did not come''' from your ruling as an admin.
			== Working page ==
	During the RfC's about Whig and Sm565, I raised issues of fairness relating to 1) editors with double standards and 2) an admin (not yourself) who was very obviously '''not''' neutral in a particular discussion and yet made a ruling in the RfC.
			I'm not quite sure of the history of ], but can it be deleted? It contains rather a large amount of claims which violate ]. ] (]) 23:47, 20 August 2012 (UTC)
	I don't know if the unfairness I perceived in those two RfC's changed the end results much, but it certainly gave me a poor impression of the prevailing standard of fairness.
			== Moving ] - ongoing poll ==
	Thanks.
			This is to let you know that an ongoing poll is taking place to move . I know this happened just recently but no administrator would close these frequent rm's down, so here we go again. This note is going out to[REDACTED] members who have participated in Burma/Myanmar name changing polls in the past. It does not include banned members nor those with only ip addresses. Thank you. ] (]) 23:05, 21 August 2012 (UTC)
	I gave you this long explanation to be as clear as possible on this. If you want to explore this further, I'm available, but I'm sure you have more urgent matters on your plate. Good luck in the election. ] 01:04, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
	:Thank you, I appreciate you taking the time to let me know of this. I suspect there are still issues on which we differ, but we can leave those for later, and you've certainly taken a lot off my mind. Cheers, ] <sup> ]</sup> 08:49, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
	== Your answers ==
			== '''The Olive Branch''': A Dispute Resolution Newsletter (Issue #1) ==
	While I'm not giving out any rankings for candidates' answers to me questions in terms of how good the answers are, I can say that your answers have thus far been easily the most entertaining. All in a very good way. :-) ] ] 02:43, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
	:Cheers :) ] <sup> ]</sup> 08:49, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
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	Eh? Who did you block for one month? Do you even know what a dynamic IP is? -Kn <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 17:21, 3 November 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
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	:I don't care if I block two-thirds of the subcontinent. I just want you gone. You fail to understand this very basic point: coming from you, what you say has no credibility. So you might as well keep quiet. ] <sup> ]</sup> 19:37, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
	:Then do us some lulz with that two-third block and honour your own words by deleting a couple of articles I wrote. I won't call you names in spite of your puerile ejaculations (here and on the mailing list) because you support an encyclopedia à la Dbachmann, rather than à la Hindu retards. ] 03:50, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
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			Just a heads up that I removed the parenthetical requirement that even a single revert must first be discussed on the talk page.--] (]) 02:00, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
	U got question, lulz.&nbsp;&mdash; ]] &mdash;&nbsp; 00:29, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
	:ZOMG, dude, your questions, like, totally, kick ass! Sick stuff, baby. ] <sup> ]</sup> 14:37, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
			== Request for input in drafting potential guidelines ==
	== Arbcom elections ==
			Hi. There are, at present, no particular clear guidelines for religious material here, or, for that matter, guidelines for how to deal with ideas in general, particularly those ideas which might be accepted as true by individuals of a given religious, political, or scientific stance. There have been attempts in the past to draft such guidelines, but they have quickly been derailed. I am dropping this note on the talk pages of a number of editors who I believe have some interest in these topics, such as yourself, and asking them to review the material at ] and perhaps take part in an effort to decide what should be covered in such guidelines, should they be determined useful, and what phrasing should be used. I would be honored to have your input. ] (]) 19:22, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
	As Aragorn once said, you have my sword. Your userpage is one of the truthful pages on the wiki, full stop. ''']''' <sup>(])</sup> 15:31, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
	:Glad someone appreciates it. Cheers, ] <sup> ]</sup> 15:34, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
	::Speaking of the plague and the constant EE war... can you have a look over ]? ''']''' <sup>(])</sup> 16:38, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
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	Hello, Moreschi. I see you're going for it: good luck. <small>I feel compelled to mention that there's an extraneous apostrophe on your ] (one of the "it's") that you may like to address? I don't correct other users' posts, particularly on such an important and personal page, but I'd hate you to lose support from any pedantic floating voters!</small> --] &#9836; ] 17:40, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
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	:Fixed, thanks for picking up on this. Now I feel like an idiot - fix your own grammar first before you point out logs in the articles of others, copy-editor! Cheers, and thanks for the "good luck" message. ] <sup> ]</sup> 17:58, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
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	== Ultra-nationalist alert ==
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	Uh-oh. Check out Miyokan's deleted comments about me here . Ben Velvel had a hand in writing the ] article too. 'Nuff said. Worth keeping an eye on? --] 14:19, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
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	:Absolutely, just from reading the article, even if I hadn't come across . ] <sup> ]</sup> 20:33, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
	::Um, right (!). Incidentally, his previous incarnation was ]. --] 20:39, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
	:::What was wrong with edit - it IS pure speculation. How can people know with certainty what Russia/Gazprom's intentions are? Russia/Gazprom maintain that they are simply seeking market rates and no longer want to subsidize other countries, yet as I can see you two both instantly believe the reports that they are using it for political leverage. You need to stop playing the 'nationalist' card all the time.--] 01:17, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
	::::Forgive me for being less than impressed. ''No one'' takes those denials seriously, as you very well know. All that needed was a reference to one of the billion-odd analytical articles in highly reputable papers that have been published on this topic recently. ] <sup> ]</sup> 10:16, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
	:::::Could you just reinstate the NPOV tag on the "Russia" history section? I'm on three reverts. As you know, it's riddled with bias. --] 11:06, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
	::::::BTW, you have mail (not that urgent). --] 12:50, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
	:::::::Those 'billion odd' media reports mean nothing, analytical articles or not, the fact remain is that they are remain purely speculative and hypotheses. The idea that Russia wants to stop subsidising ex-Soviet states and receive market prices for its oil and gas is not so farfetched to dismiss. I have read plenty of articles (non-Russian) which agree that Russia is justified in not wanting to subsidise ex-Soviet states. By the way, the political leverage argument might have been more convincing if Russia had not have increased the prices to its allies, Belarus and Armenia, as well.--] 13:34, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
	Comment, I find Folantin's referring to Miyokan as "ultra-nationalist" an appallingly undeserved attack on editor's character. As for seeing the history repeat itself when FAC of ] was derailed, I share Miyokan's view that there are some similarities. First, editors insert the referenced but POVed or ] or otherwise tendentious info that is out of place in the article with such a wide scope. This is followed by a revert war to "restore referenced information". Then, the other side is forced to add ''more'' to at least give appropriate context to those references, thus sacrificing the brevity and the text flow to restore the NPOV. But with the article's flow being violated, the article cannot qualify. This is a valid concern and this has happened before at other FAC's as well. --] 17:08, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
	:Oh you do, do you? Birds of a feather flock together as ever on Misplaced Pages. I have one inestimable advantage when editing articles on Eastern Europe: I don't come from there. What's more, I've actually read history books on the subject by scholars who didn't die in the 19th century. The two articles under discussion have severe POV problems and any expert on the subject would tear them to shreds within seconds. There is no way they should be on our main page as examples of the best we can do. Of course, users like Ben Velvel and Miyokan have no conception what neutrality is. Miyokan's response to my comments was to fantasise that I was a Georgian. This whole nationalist mentality is corrupt and it's ruining huge sections of Misplaced Pages's content. I've had enough of it. --] 17:34, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
	::That's all nice and dandy but if you choose to reply to my posts, please address the concerns it raised. I am impressed by your claimed background and all but your boasting about it is somewhat off-topic. And so are your ill-considered remarks about some birds and Misplaced Pages which are both off-topic and inappropriate. --] 17:41, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
	:::It's all on topic. As Moreschi says, this is the plague wrecking Misplaced Pages. The content problems won't be sorted until we fix this underlying problem of nationalist gang warfare. I attempted to follow Misplaced Pages policy on ] by using references from up-to-date scholarly sources in English. Ben Velvel and Co. didn't. This is the way NPOV should be fixed round here, not by coming to some compromise between warring national factions. (Hey, I'm not boasting about my expertise either. The average sixth-former could make a better job of some of these articles than the current crowd. I'd really like to see genuine experts come here to write these pages but they tend to get driven off by all the nationalist lunacy. Who can blame them?). --] 17:51, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
	::::Actually the more I think about this, the more I'm riled at you, Irpen. I used to have respect for you as an editor but now I see exactly why ArbCom pulled you up for violation of AGF. I attempt to maintain a modicum of neutrality and I get attacked in xenophobic terms by two Russian nationalist editors who are hardly the jewels in Misplaced Pages's crown. You naturally jump to the defence of your compatriots (or fellow Russophones). This is another problem with the nationalist gang warfare round here: even the half-decent editors will stick up for the rotten apples if they're on the right side. --] 20:40, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
	:::::You too huh? Funny how the same handful of editors seem to crop up again and again at centre of all this EE angst. In the past I've been called an Estonian ultra-nationalist, even though I am from Australia! Sheer lunacy. Just recently I was reported by Irpen to ANI for moving a page as innocuous as ] to ]. The move was done after quite an extensive RM discussion and a compromise was found. See the gory details here ]. He even reverted my attempt to close off the debate over the initial move proposal I initiated, which was obviously now a dead horse. This kind of antagonism and routine assumption of bad faith has no place in Misplaced Pages. ] 00:52, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
	::::::Um, yeah, the idea that some editors might have a general interest in history and aren't here to put the most positive spin on their nations' pasts is obviously completely alien to some Wikipedians. They seem to have their own unique interpretation of policy too: ] = Misplaced Pages is a soapbox; ]= Misplaced Pages is a battleground; ] = use Russian sources, especially 19th century ones or Soviet-era school textbooks; and - a new one- ] = assume Folantin is Georgian (I like to edit wearing my big ], eating lavash and listening to my Katie Melua CDs while my mafia friends are out stealing Russian editors' cars). --] 08:57, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
	...or something along those lines. I'm astounded by the way people seem to be turning a blind eye to faults in the Russia articles; it was essentially a propaganda piece in a big way, and even though it's improved, there are still considerable issues, not least with the use of sources (19th-century Russian stuff should not be used, what's wrong with modern scholarship? Nor should Britannica, come to that, or at least not to any great extent. I'm uneasy about citing fellow tertiary sources, and while you might point to my extensive use of Grove, that's not only specialist but often more of a secondary source than it is tertiary, not to mention the fact that all articles are written by experts). I'd be unhappy with any article that was evidently written with such an obvious agenda in mind passing FAC. ] <sup> ]</sup> 17:56, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
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	All right, I waited for a while (with some astonishment) to let you guys enjoy this friendly discussion not interfering for some time but I figured I would comment at this point. First and foremost, this very thread was started in a grievous attack mode. Calling someone an "ultra-nationalist" is serious stuff. Using Folantin's terminology, very few editors are truly "jewels in Misplaced Pages's crown." Granted, Miyokan is not one of them but also none of us at this page are. For jewels, look for editors who rolled out dozens of FA's or so (I can name some) and none of us yet pulled it off and unlikely will. My initial observation about Folantin's using this page as a forum to attack another editor stands but it only got worse by his further posts. He invokes the sloppy ArbCom decision from the case the ArbCom totally screwed up and he knows that. The particular FoF about Irpen and AGF is sufficiently commented by the community , ] and ]. What's more, Folantin engages in further sarcastic mode badmouthing Miyokan more since the format of this page (third party's talk) allows to do that with near impunity, unlike at ANI or article's talk page. I am not here to defend Miyokan's POV, which is obviously very Russophile, but the editor puts a great deal of work into the article, sources his edits and if you have any issues, Folantin, use normal DR channels rather than third party talk pages where you can resort to such attacks with near impunity.
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	Not surprisingly, as soon as Irpen is bashed at any page, Martin quickly shows up, even if it is out of the view page which he quickly finds in some mysterious way. So, Martin just made an "innocuous good faith move" but an "antagonistic" Irpen, with his "routine assumption of bad faith" reports him. Well, diffs don't lie and Moreschi, can see the deleted edits in diffs too. . was an assessment from an uninvolved third party and Martin's continuous denying does do him credit.
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	As for the Moreschi's reaction, I am, frankly, surprised. A user uses this page to launch an attack on another contributor and there is no clear and open reprimand from the page's owner. Perhaps there was some criticism in email communications that ensued (I hope so) but the attack made on-wiki calls for an on-wiki response to get a message through. There does not seem to be any sensitive material to warrant taking the communication off-line and it does not bode well with the ongoing ArbCom run, especially since lack of transparency in decision making is often considered one of the major problems of the ArbCom's modus operandi. --] 16:01, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
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	:Irpen, I'm sorry to be able to confirm from experience what ArbCom says about your failure to assume good faith. I expected better of you. Miyokan was the first to attack me as the difference linked at the top of the page shows . He then accused me of being a Georgian nationalist POV-pusher. I've checked his block log: under his previous incarnation of ] he acquired four blocks for arguing over things like the size of Russia's army in relation to the rest of the world and (inevitably) the bloody ]. I reserve the right to to ]. One thing I can say in Miyokan's favour is that he is not as bad as Ben Velvel, whose side you also took against me. I attempted to inject some neutrality into those articles and was accused of belonging to the wrong gang. I repeat: I do not come from Central or Eastern Europe and I don't have a dog in these fights. You, however, do. It's no great secret that various "national" editors back those on the "right side". Here's a disgraceful instance (to your credit you were not involved. as far as I can see): . The user in question was allowed to flame on for another three or four months before his inevitable block. (And yes, I'm quite aware that the "other side" can behave just as disruptively. Digwuren thoroughly deserved his ArbCom ban). --] 16:32, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
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	Folantin, I am not going to run around every page you post to defend myself against your new accusations (this time that I "supported" Ben Vevel against yourself.) I've seen many fantasies posted around and if I jump to debunk each and every of them, I would be left with no time to do anything else. "The difference linked at the top of the page " was not an attack on you. You are not called any names there and this is an editors observation, fair or not, which you may want to argue with but you can't call it an attack. I have not seen him calling you a "Georgian nationalist POV pusher" but even if he did, you have no excuse to retaliate in calling him a "Russian ultra-nationalist" and even less so to do it not to his face but at the third party talk where he may not even find (or answer) your accusations. I read the current ] and I must say Miyokan's conduct there is much better than yours and if you want to accuse me in being partial, ask anyone. Your not coming from EE does not make you a better editor and does not make you better anything at all to boast about it. As for Digwuren, I have no opinion of whether he should have been banned (I asked for a way to curtail him) but ArbCom thoroughly blew that case as it has done with most all complex cases because it is not really functioning and is unable deal with complex issues.
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	You for some reason choose to invoke the MVEi's incident even admitting that I have nothing to do with that. I can add that I was repeatedly involved in trying to curb MVEi in the past. I am here long enough to not expect apologies and know better than to respond to every single wild accusation and the only reason I commented here was that this is the page of the ArbCom's candidate and I find his involvement in this discussion disturbing. --] 16:48, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
	:You inserted yourself into this discussion from out of the blue without bothering to check up on the background. Do your own research before you start sticking your oar in other people's arguments. This editor has clearly got a bee in his bonnet about Georgians and Estonians and I'm supposed to believe this has nothing to do with nationalism? The only problem with the ArbCom decision was its utter toothlessness. Quite a few more editors should have been booted out if content was our real concern. Talking of content, FA is a complete lottery. I'm still amazed that the History of Russia article managed to pass with three or four paragraphs about post-Soviet Russia and not one mention of the war in Chechnya. Quality control and the most basic knowledge at many of the Russian historical articles seems non-existent. --] 17:26, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
	::PS: And here you are defending Ben Velvel on the ] talk page, including his use of 19th century sources in Russian in a Featured Article. . --] 17:43, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
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	::PPS. Thanks for finding this link. I find it so important to be preserved for the record that replaced it with the permanent url that won't expire. This shows the same conduct problems, Folantin. You accuse another editor is no less than "xenophobic views" (literally) and attacked the respected sources on the wholesale basis. I agreed back then and I would agree any time that ] is an issue of a very high priority in any controversial topic but my criticism of your conduct was totally valid and, in view of this repeated occurrence when you resort to attack other editor's character so grievously as accusing them is xenophobia, you have a lot of self-reflection to do. --] 21:14, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
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	The diff you bring this time () is indeed an unfortunate slip. Still, you manage to misrepresent that one too. Firstly, you are not called there a "Georgian nationalist". This is just not there. The observation of the editor that Russia-related topics are attacked by certain editors whose countries were subjugated by Russia in the past is true and for some examples check Molobo's edits to the ], ], ] and even ], check Piotrus' edits to ] or, best yet, Digwuren's edits to ] (the topic that has no relation to Estonia whatsoever.) It is wrong to mislabel all Estonians, Poles, Georgians, Russians as POV-pushers but editor correctly reports the observation about those from these communities who are POV-pushers. There is nothing we can do about that. You in turn, come to a third-party talk page and attack this editor ruthlessly and the owner of the page does nothing about it. That's my main point. --] 17:45, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
	:I don't own this page. I have no control over what people post here and have no more authority on this, my user talk, than I do on the rest of Misplaced Pages.
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	:In all honesty, I find little sympathy for Miyokan. He's got 4 blocks in the past for disruptive editing, all relating to Russian topics AFAICR, and, Irpen, verifiability does not equate to neutrality. Reviewing the edits the impression I get is of violations of NPOV, ], and in particular the "undue weight" clause. These are fundamental polices being violated here, and when allied to a blatantly nationalist POV, as you yourself acknowledge, we have a problem. ] was much, much worse (I'm not sure how much of this is Miyokan's fault, but he must bear some responsibility) until it started copping serious flak at the FAC for glaring POV issues. Even now the sourcing is inadequate and several POV issues remain. It would be a complete waste of my time to try and fix these problems because I know how much resistance I would meet, and I'd rather spend my time sorting out ], where at least I don't have to worry about nationalist edit-warring.
	:Nor do I have an axe to grind here. Digwuren's ban was deserved (just remembered that I deleted ], didn't he write that?); I was the one who got rid of M.V.E.i; Martintg's attacks on you, Irpen, leave me cold. I didn't take any notice, you needn't have done so either. My personal background leaves me fundamentally disinterested in online Eastern European ethnic warfare, except in terms of the disruption it causes on Misplaced Pages. A sustained pattern of POV-pushing, such as we're seeing from Miyokan, (yes, if you want diffs, I can provide plenty) can never be justified. You yourself said Miyokan's edits were Russophile. This is a persistent violation of NPOV, ''which is our most important policy''. There's a problem here that needs to be solved. The bias in Miyokan's edits cannot be brushed under the carpet. All this is pretty straightforward stuff, but I guess you're entitled to disagree with me. Either way, see you in less than a month - but please consider what I have said about neutrality in the mean-time. ] <sup> ]</sup>
	::P.S - I would dispute that the ArbCom isn't functioning. It is - just functioning very badly. ] <sup> ]</sup> 17:53, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
	:::(edit conflict - reply to Irpen) Right, so an editor assumes massive bad faith about me and I'm supposed not to call him out on his motives. ''Firstly, you are not called there a "Georgian nationalist".'' That's sophistry. The implications of what he said are obvious to anyone not blinded by bias. And pointing out the absence of the Chechen War from an article on the "History of Russia equals "boasting how well-versed you are in history topics"? Anybody with the slightest knowledge of the subject could have spotted that glaring omission. You then go on to attack my contribution history, about which you know next to nothing. I never descended to that type of ''ad hominem'' with you, Irpen. I used to think you were a pretty decent editor. Obviously national chauvinist brainrot can affect even the best of users. BTW I asked Moreschi to keep an eye on that page because he has a well-known interest in combatting the "nationalist plague". --] 18:09, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
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	Moreschi, I never said you have any special "authority over this page". But as an administrator, and especially, the Arbcom candidate, you have a responsibility to react to posts like those by Folantin, wherever they are posted. ]. In only few grievous cases this may be justified and Miyokan, jewel or not, gave no excuse to be called such names. Of course you cannot be everywhere and react to every policy violation around. I don't have a problem with that. But when someone uses your talk page to post such stuff and your reaction is not to reprimand the attacker but give him a pat on his shoulder and send him an email of some unknown content, I do have a problem with such reaction.
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	X-phile editors are part of the Misplaced Pages reality. It is also a part of an academic reality. The most widely recognized modern historian of Poland, ] is widely considered to have Polonophile views, a charge he does not even deny. Miyokan's edits do sometimes violate ] but so are edits of most everyone and so may even writings of the respected historians, from Davies to ]. I was not closely involved with the current ] page but reading its talk it is easy to make up one's mind on who acts worse there, the "non-neutral" Miyokan or arrogant Folantin. The problem of possible non-neutrality of even best-sourced edits is a real one and it does need to be solved. I ] once but Arbcom is "too busy" to even read the cases they rule on, much less comment on them. Whatever the solution is, it's not what Folantin's was doing at the article's talk and even less what he posts here. --] 21:14, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
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	:"Miyokan, jewel or not, gave no excuse to be called such names". He gave plenty of excuse. I'm not messing around protecting the finer feelings of users like that (per ]). "...so may even writings of the respected historians, from Davies to Jan T. Gross". Read our policy on ], which both of those historians pass with flying colours. I wrote this only today regarding these edit wars: " insist on the enforcement of Misplaced Pages's policies, especially ] and ]. Priority must be given to up-to-date sources which have been peer-reviewed and/or issued by respected publishing houses. Ideally, sources should be in English. This is an English-language encyclopaedia and the only language we can rely on all editors having in common is English. References in articles on controversial topics to sources in foreign languages (especially if they are not widely spoken) should be avoided if at all possible. Improving the quality of sourcing will inevitably improve the article". That is what I attempted at ]. My experiences there made me very wary of investing more of my time and energy trying the same thing on ]. You continue your personal attacks on me (you can't even spell my name correctly). It's been pretty obvious where your sympathies have lain all along. You, a Russophone, will back your fellow Russophones. I don't have to justify my actions to such an "impartial" observer any further. You are part of the problem here. Further discussion would be futile and I consider this conversation at an end. --] 21:46, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
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	Well, I initially thought of not responding since Folantin claimed to be leaving a party but since he after that, I guess he chose to change his mind. First, I apologize for misspelling his username. It was totally unintentional. I corrected that.
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	As for the rest, English sources have an advantage of course, because they can be checked by more people but so are the online sources. However, insisting on only English sources' being used because others are "inconvenient" is the same as insisting on using the online sources only (because those are also easier to verify). There are plenty of books that are out of print (and I don't mean just the 19th century ones) that are ''very difficult'' to get one's hands on to verify, even more difficult than to find someone who knows a foreign language to verify the reference. So, we should use English sources when we can and we should use non-English sources when their usage is warranted. The reputation of the source's author and publisher is all that matters for the source compliance, not the language, and I would use works of ] who, according to the ], "has long been considered one of the world's leading medievalists and a pioneer in the field of historical anthropology" in articles hundred times over someone's Ph. D. thesis even if the latter is available online and is published just last year. Same applies to old sources. They may be used under specific circumstances and with the due care as I explained multiple times. including in the . This discussion belongs elsewhere though. --] 23:14, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
	:Irpen, I'd simply feel a good deal more sympathetic if I didn't think mostly everything Folantin is saying is corrent. I'm not a complete blockhead; unlike most admins I am capable of looking at content, and the edits of Miyokan and ] do give me a queasy feeling in the pit of my stomach. The nationalist pro-Russia bias can be smelt a mile off. Why not call a spade a spade? This is flagrant POV editing. It's a much ''more'' serious problem than Folantin calling out these people. I'm not especially bothered about what names you call these fellas - can they please just stop infecting Misplaced Pages with their bias? ''This'' is the real problem - why you will not recognise this, I don't know! ] <sup> ]</sup> 23:53, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
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	::Moreschi, rather than baselessly scream that I am a POV pusher, show clear examples of where I have displayed "flagrant POV editing". Irpen, I hope you saw my comment in the other topic below, where Moreschi declared that I had turned ] into a heavily biased pro-Lenin article. Moreschi declared ''"several instances of shoddy sourcing and peacock language relating to Lenin, a tag here is justifed"'', and, ''"I hope our revolution will receive such POV praise as Lenin is given in this miserable article"''. Such comments are worrying to say the least, given that the only time Lenin is referred to in the article is, ''"After Lenin's death in 1924..."'' and, ''"While Lenin called for world revolution, Stalin and his supporters began to move away from earlier Bolshevik policies and towards Socialism in one country, which taught that the Soviet Union should aim to build socialism by itself, rather than work for world revolution."''. Yes, Lenin certainly is given gushing amounts of praise in that article. This shows a clear assumption of bad faith towards me by Moreschi.--] 08:09, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
	:::Miyokan, when you put this article up FAC it contained the following statements: "Lenin emphasised the importance of bringing electricity to all corners of Russia and modernising industry and agriculture. He was very concerned about creating a free universal health care system for all, the rights of women, and teaching all Russian people to read and write". The source: Lenin himself. It now contains this (as if there were any difference between Lenin and "the Bolsheviks" up to his death): "The Bolsheviks introduced free universal health care, education and social-security benefits, as well as the right to work and free housing. Women's rights were greatly increased through new political, civic, economic and family codes aimed to wipe away centuries-old inequalities at one stroke. The new government granted women full right to vote, passed divorce and civil laws that made marriage a voluntary relationship, eliminated the distinction between legitimate and illegitimate children, enacted employment rights for women equal to those for men, gave women equal pay and introduced universal paid maternity leave. Soviet Russia became the first country in the world with full freedom of divorce, and where abortion was legal." (Women were granted the "full right to vote" in a one-party state? Wow, generous. Maybe we should add a bit about how Lenin and his comrades gave every Soviet citizen their own chocolate teapot too). I will take no further part in the Russia FAC. If it passes, that's just further proof the whole FA process is broken. Russian (or Russophone) users have prevented me from adding NPOV tags to this article. I don't intend to get involved in a futile edit war. The tags aren't really necessary anyway, since the bias is plain to see. --] 08:27, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
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	Hi, could you check this article, the citations that i added are from serious academical works of historians without any pro-Turkish bias at all, ] and ]. So that is most definitely not a case of nationalist `plague`..And article has been in this shape for over months..
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	There are other sources as well, seemingly from a non-pro Turkish perspective, about the atrocities of the Greek army in the same period of time:
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	:I wish there were a policy on NPOV tags. Tagging warfare of all kinds is, as we know, becoming increasingly common, but we have zero policy on this. I remember having a long conversation with Digwuren, of all people, on this. It was about the one thing we agreed on; Misplaced Pages has to work out a code of practice relating to tagging issues. Something else to add the to "to-do" list. ] <sup> ]</sup> 12:21, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
	::Yeah, shame. I'm not asking you to get involved in a revert war and reinstate it, because this is a waste of time. It's pretty obvious this guy is misrepresenting his own sources (see talk page for details - it's not just the "Georgian" stuff, you really have to compare the linked reference to get the full flavour of the monkey business going on here). I think any objective reader can see for themselves the blatant bias without needing a tag, so we shouldn't worry too much. There's no way this is an FA. I thought about taking it to GAR, but maybe we should leave it as a Good Article as a testimony to the wonderful effectiveness of the GA crowd ;). --] 12:29, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
	:::GAR? I should certainly hope not! This is a wonderful stick to beat GA around the head with when the revolution comes! I hope our revolution will receive such POV praise as Lenin is given in this miserable article. ] <sup> ]</sup> 12:38, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
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	I find it your comments about Lenin's alleged glorification in the article hilarious (''"several instances of shoddy sourcing and peacock language relating to Lenin"'', and ''"I hope our revolution will receive such POV praise as Lenin is given in this miserable article"'') given that the only time Lenin is referred to in the article is ''"After Lenin's death in 1924..."'' and, ''"While Lenin called for world revolution, Stalin and his supporters began to move away from earlier Bolshevik policies and towards Socialism in one country, which taught that the Soviet Union should aim to build socialism by itself, rather than work for world revolution."''. Yes, Lenin certainly is given gushing amounts of praise in that article.--] 14:07, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
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	==Early Soviet history in limerick form==
	There was a great Marxist called Lenin,<br>
	Who did two or three million men in.<br>
	That's a lot to have done in.<br>
	But where he did one in,<br>
	That grand Marxist, Stalin, did ten in.<br>
	(]) --] 14:47, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
	== Cascading protection ==		== We're on Twitter! ==
	Moreschi, please could you (temporarily, if you like) remove the cascading protection from your userpage, I was trying to edit ] to make the ''Veropedia'' into a plain link, but I couldn't because of your userpage protection. Could you please take it off for a day or two so I can do it? Cheers, ] (]) 21:58, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
	: Thanks. Oh, als; you may wish to check out ], I hope you'll reconsider cutting down your editing :) ] (]) 12:26, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
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	Please could I have a Veropedia account? My e-mail address is XXX, and I'll (hopefully be able to copy-edit when time allows.
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	===Alice and her harasser===
	Let's start with some good news: ] and the project lost the bothersome sock puppet who had been disrupting many articles we monitor, and now most of us can edit in relative peace. Congratulations, Alice, for being able to come out of semi-retirement. ], on the other hand, has gained an anonymous IP stalker who seems to be more Catholic than the Pope and who has a hard-on for the ]. We seem to have a sort of ] thing going on here, which helps both to keep us in balance and on our toes <bright smiles all around>.
	===Harry Potter and his homosexual teacher===
	] got ] this month, and was immediately adopted by our project. The international brouhaha surrounding this disclosure reached all the way to Wikiland, and his article was briefly locked due to homophobic vandalism (as well as well meaning editors who just couldn't believe that that nice man could possibly be gay). This is a wonderful article to add to your watchlist, and will surely give you hours of reverting fun on cold winter days.
	==="My Fellow Americans"===
	On a more serious note, ] has suggested a new article series about LGBT rights in the United States, state by state. This ambitious topic will surely require many editors and a lot of research, but has the potential to add further prestige to our already prestigious project.
	===Same name, same sexuality: a riddle for the ages===
	] (not the ], but the old gay one ... though they're actually both dead, now that I think about it) has also aroused passions here on Misplaced Pages, with editors opposing his sexuality being disclosed in his biography. The always helpful ] has thoughtfully provided any number of sources, but it is slow going getting his point across. Anyone want to lend a hand?
	===Beat writer arouses Irish guy===
	And speaking of passions, ] has inflamed the senses once again with editors, including administrator ], mounting a spirited defense to keep him as heterosexual as possible for Misplaced Pages purposes. Why? I don't know. Perhaps some of you can drop by the ] and ask your questions there. I feel certain a stimulating debate will ensue that will be enjoyed by all.
	===Love those Texas Longhorns===
	Did you know that one of our ], ], lost its shiny gold star? That was a shocker. It has been suggested that we turn our attention to it in an effort to restore it to its former glory. I took a peek, and it does need our help badly. For our American editors, it would seem almost a ] to edit it (not that I'm hinting....).
	===Point and Counterpoint===
	Though it was far too intellectual a debate for a mere cruise director like myself to take part in, ] was certainly a hot topic a week or two ago. The thrust of the debate was over inclusion in our project. Lots of good editors had lots of good opinions. For those too lazy to check out the discussion, we decided to leave it out for now.
	===Drudgery on offer===
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	The article ] certainly raised eyebrows last week, especially when it was discovered that copyrighted content had been added to our article. Tragedy was averted at the last minute, though, when the original hosts of the article where the material had been pilfered agreed to make it ] Our thanks to them, whoever they are. Busy Bee that I am, I haven't had time to read it, but I'm sure it's sensational.
	===This month's Wiki stars===
	] (a genre close to my heart, I must confess) writer ] has decided to spice up ] this month. Why not drop by and make your opinion heard? Joining her in this lofty aspiration are the articles ''''']''''' and ''''']'''''. I'm sure their main editors would welcome any comments (well, helpful ones, anyway) on the talk pages or the FAC discussions. And lest we forget, the ] became a ] Rah rah, siskumbah! ''Go, team, '''GO!!!!'''''
	===And the Oscar goes to...===
	Not content to run for ], plucky Bannon won a ]... whoops, I meant to say Ann is also getting more than her share of womanly attention on the Good Article list. Joining her on this exalted plane are ], ] and ]. Good articles indeed, and the last one mentioned just goes to show that one needn't admire the subject of an article to appreciate the effort put into making him worthwhile reading. What on earth ] ever saw in him I'll never know. Truly a riddle cloaked in an enigma and wrapped around a puzzle.
	=== Fresh faces to brighten our pages ===
	Though I may not be the first, let me extend a warm, LGBT Love Boat welcome to the 12 new members who joined us in October: ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], and ]! Whatever you choose to do here, I feel sure that your contributions will enhance our project to no end. And if they don't...well, let's just say that I'm not shy.
	===Leather and lace===
	On a personal note, your already overworked cruise director is being cyberly whipped almost daily by ], who desperately wants to get the ] copy edited and used as a replacement for the current one. It's such a ... err, stimulating topic that I am sure many of you will want to join the copy editing fun. Jump right in, folks! It's so lonely copy editing it all by my lonesome!
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	A little birdie just whispered in my ear that our noble ] was delisted from the ] due to inactivity. When asked how this scandalous turn of events could have occurred, the answer I received was "we suck at stuff like that". Well. In the first place, I disagree that ] should be considered a negative, but to each his or her own. In the second place, I have full confidence that we can and will collaborate with other projects in the future. So let's not view this as a setback (even though it is), but rather a ''challenge to improve'' (and good Lord, I sound almost ]).
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	:Blocked him already for 72. ] <sup> ]</sup> 22:33, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
	Thanks. And thanks for contributing to the talk page discussion. I don't understand this violet riga person. We have discussed this to death, and what he/she wants to do is basically to put a piece of trivia in the G&S article that is dealt with elsewhere. Best regards, -- ] 22:53, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
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	==Quandary==
	Hi, I just read your post on the ] page. I sincerely hope your intervention will help cool things down a little on the ] page. One of the big problems, as I see it, is that there is a group of editors, who are out to hype up the contributions of both the ] region of India and the language of that region, ]. Part of the quandary for me is that they don't seem to heed Misplaced Pages policy about reliable secondary sources, and I don't know how to proceed with them. Thus, earlier today, I showed them , that the authors they want included are not notable (by a long shot) when compared to some other writers who are not mentioned. But they remain unresponsive, feeling perhaps they can make up in numbers what they lack in sources. I asked them if they would consider a Misplaced Pages mediation, but they didn't go for that either. All these editors: ], ], ], and a few others like ] and ] seem to turn up at the same time on different pages. They have in the past been accused of ] and at least two of them, ] and ] were once asked to not edit the same articles by the presiding administrator at RFCU. In fact, they all appear ] on ANI even as I write this. Frankly, I don't know how to proceed, when confronted with this form of herd editing. ]] 00:13, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
	==]==
	Hi. The ] article has been nominated for promotion to FA. Marc Shepherd and Adam Cuerden have both done a super job with it, and I can't imagine that there could be a better researched encyclopedia article. Please take a look and let us know if you have any comments. Best regards, -- ] 04:57, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
	==bad cop==
	Moreschi, since you seem willing to take a few troll-infested topics by the horns so to speak, how about try your hand at ] too. This article is a mess several classes below ] at its worst, and attempts to "debate" have proven fruitless for about two years now. ] <small>]</small> 14:09, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
	:Sweet Jesus, what a mess. I've read through that now - not much that isn't painfully POV. I can't even begin to count the number of policies this one violates. I haven't had time to check out the users involved and conduct issues, so I don't know as of yet who wrote the worst of the POV nonsense, but I strongly suspect some judicious bans might well be in order. Cheers, ] <sup> ]</sup> 17:53, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
	== Talk:India ==
	Since dab, a well known and respected member of the community, has suggested that I seek your audience on your talk page. Here's the deal:
	*You made an inflammatory post on ] which is against some of the valued and established long-term contributors of the project.
	* was challenging the validity of the aggressive comments you left on the talk page of the article.
	*... which by you a few hours later with the edit summary: ''If you disagree, take it up with the ArbCom. This is common practice and has been used successfully before. There's no question of abuse, since I'll be the one doing the enforcing.''
	*What I would like to know is, from where have you have derived the validity of and how do you seek to justify admin abuse as a means of settling the dispute?
	*Would you like to rethink, in the interest of the project, of your position as an administrator in this case, since you have been involved in India-related disputes as an "uninvolved administrator" for a long time now which highlights, your more-than-peripheral involvement in the dispute.
	*My aims and intentions with this dispute are crystal clear &ndash; I want a peaceful and amicable dispute resolution in conformity with the policies and the process. Apart from that I would also like to see administrators giving due respect to fellow contributors to the project, rather than using blocks as an illegal and punitive measure against them.
	*I am still interested in your response. — ] ] 17:37, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
	**By common courtesy, you should have just refactored NHN's comments, not completely removed them. I understand your anti-nationalism campaign, but honestly, removing another administrator's comments (an administrator who has done lots to fight SPA, trolls and edit warriors on many India-related articles) just because they are in disagreement is in bad taste. This is a discussion and he's allowed to comment on what he thinks is right and wrong. You can't honestly expect that everyone will agree to every rule you proposed. Also, I don't think you should be the one enforcing the rules as indicated in . That should be left to uninvolved administrators who do not have previous relations with the editors of the article, or have any biases. Thanks, <span style="background:#E0FFFF;color:#007FFF;font-family:Georgia;">] (])</span> 18:22, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
	***Also, how are edit summaries like even going to help the situation? Either, block a user for 3RR/edit-warring or don't block at all. Snide comments just escalate tensions, Moreschi. Also, if you have issues with those editors who revert war on a number of articles, take it to ArbCom. <span style="background:#E0FFFF;color:#007FFF;font-family:Georgia;">] (])</span> 18:30, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
	*As far as I know I have '''no''' previous experience with any of the editors currently fighting at ]. Nor do I have any personal biases as regards the subject matter (don't care two hoots, actually). It's very rich for you pair to have the temerity to lecture me on "being involved" - when I'm the one who doesn't care about the subject matters, nor in this case I have dealt with the editors before (unless Baka and Anwar turn up, in which case it is slightly different. As of now, however, they haven't).
	*My post on the talk page was simply a fairly common thing I, and other adminstrators, have been doing for a while now on particularly contentious articles that have a long history of edit-warring over. I have blocked people under such arrangements, in the past, with no protest. When I asked another administrator about his application of virtually identitical rules when dealing with another (non-India-related) nationalist fight that later ended up at ArbCom, he pointed out that not only did the ArbCom know (and where fine about it), but if I may quote: "Don't worry, what we're doing is just a creative application of the rule that edit-warring is disruptive and disruption is blockable. What exactly makes an edit disruptive depends on the situation, and we just provide a few clues to editors about that...".
	*Essentially, I suggest you two leave me alone and let me deal with the problem. Clearly, the approach you have been trying for the last couple years, softly-softly, has not worked, so it's time for some new measures. You don't like it, take it up with the ArbCom. I'm not overly attached to my sanity or my adminship - what I do care about it preventing disruption. ] <sup> ]</sup> 19:35, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
	**If you've seen my contributions, you'd know I don't even get involved in India-related disputes, unless I'm asking to mediate or protect pages. As I told you before, these things won't help, unless you go to ArbCom. Enforcing your own set of rules, as done by others on various other articles, might work as a temporary measure, but it surely won't assist you in the long-term for your crusade against nationalism. <span style="background:#E0FFFF;color:#007FFF;font-family:Georgia;">] (])</span> 21:05, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
	***Nothing will ever really get rid of the nationalist plague (actually, I don't think that's the problem here - it's simply unscrupulous editing practices) but something like this, if it institutes a tradition of more thoughtful editing on ], will help that article for sure, and hopefully act as a benchmark for other places. Sure, Big ArbCom Cases might be more appealing in a phallogocentric way, but not necessarily more helpful :) Cheers, ] <sup> ]</sup> 21:10, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
	::::Well spoken, Moreschi. "Phallogocentric." Now there's a word I haven't seen in a long long time; since my days with the Lacan-Derrida crowds of long ago! Just stopping by, nothing on my mind. Cheers. ]] 23:46, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
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	Since you're working on Gluck, can you have a look at this? Someone created a stub on him and I worked it up, but it's unsourced and needs checking. Cheers. --] 10:24, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
	:One of the useful things about Grove is how remarkably librettist-friendly it is. I'll add another para later, so at least we'll have a decent short article. Cheers, ] <sup> ]</sup> 15:09, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
	== Banned from ] and talk page ==
	Please see . If you reject the efforts of good-faith editors to compromise and reduce edit-warring, I have little choice, and seeing as virtually all your edits involve pushing the same POV, I have little sympathy either. ] <sup> ]</sup> 20:34, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
	Where are the instances of my POV pushing at ]? You've made a charge. '''Substantiate it.''' Point them out. I don't want your sympathy. I expect you to act as a responsible admin. ] 20:40, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
	:I've gone through your edits and can quite clearly detect a recognizable POV pattern behind them all (not just to Afrocentrism). Seeing as you won't accept the 1RR everyone else has signed up to, there's no point letting you filibuster on the talk and waste time on the article any more. I'm not really in the mood for arguing this, so if you don't like it, try ANI. ] <sup> ]</sup> 20:47, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
	:You're making excuses for a completely wrong-headed and precipitous act that is completely without justification. It's a simple request. You've charged me with POV pushing at ] and imposed a rather drastic penalty. It's perfectly reasonable to expect you to provide the diffs that caused you to come to such a decision. This has nothing to do with your "mood." I couldn't care less about your mood. I find your comments here unresponsive, high-handed, arrogant and totally off the wall. What is at issue here is your responsibility as an admin to justify your actions. Do it. ] 21:16, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
	::No. I've got so many wikidramas boiling around my head I don't have time to deal with your tedious wikilawyering. Your incivility and tendentious talkpage time-wasting are quite clear for all to see, as are your attempts to insert as much of your own opinion as you can get away with. You don't like it, try ANI. I'll provide diffs there if I absolutely have to. Right now, I'm trying to write articles in between wikidramas, which is enough of a chore as it is without you wasting your time, and mine, on this page. ] <sup> ]</sup> 21:25, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
	==Quick question==
	How did you find out about the edits you reported for deeceevoice? Did another user ask you to take a look at the page? I'm sorry if it seemed like I was accusing you of anything at the notice board --I just think it's better to say up-front when you are involved. So, that leads me to wonder how you decided to single out those edits as problematic? I think that there were other users who might deserve a report on incivility. What do you think? ] 03:47, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
	==Advice==
	I think that maybe they have archived the discussions on Deeceevoive and Dbachmann prematurely. I don't think that this was the intention, but I, feel as though I'm being "shut down" and left out in the cold with my questions and very real concerns unanswered. I'm really angry about the way that this whole thing has turned out because the double standard seems so blatant and clear. Deeceevoive and Dbachmann were both rude and both (almost) broke 3RR, but deeceevoice is banned for a YEAR and the concerns about Dbachmann are dismissed shortly after they are posted. It's absurdly unfair in my eyes. It's not helping that Dbachmann was also rude to me and implied that I was a troll. I work really hard to make constructive edits and to respond to others with respect. I don't know how anyone could mistake my edits for trolling.
	But, maybe I'm not seeing the entire picture. So, I'll start by asking you for some advice: What can ''I'' do to draw attention to this unfairness and have it addressed in some way? I feel that I need to do ''something'' because otherwise it's hard for me to maintain faith in this project and work with the other users here. I hope that made sense. -- ] (]) 19:01, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
	== Featured List of the Day Experiment ==
	There have been a series of proposals to initiate a Featured List of the Day on the main page. Numerous proposals have been put forth. After the third one failed, I audited all ]'s in order to begin an experiment in my own user space that will hopefully get it going. Today, it commences at ]. Afterwards I created my experimental page, a new proposal was set forth to do a featured list that is strikingly similar to my own which is to do a user page experimental featured list, but no format has been confirmed and mechanism set in place. I continue to be willing to do the experiment myself and with this posting it commences. Please submit any list that you would like to have considered for list of the day in the month of January 2008 by the end of this month to ] and its subpages. You may submit multiple lists for consideration.--] <small>(]/]/]/]) </small> 21:34, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
	== Bubonic fun ==
	I've really enjoyed your stuff on '''the plague'''. Given all the magnificent material here for me to interest myself in, it's quite something that your own original observations kept me engaged so long!
	I guess one thing I wanted to offer, is that some of the most fascinating and enlightening things I've discovered on Misplaced Pages have been nationalistic sentiments, nationalistic myths or even informative nationalistic perspectives. These aberrations themselves can be quite educational! Sometimes even more so than facts. And when someone knows how to wield Misplaced Pages properly, they have the opportunity, not just to look stuff up to access the dominant radical's perspective, but to get a sense of the whole of the political backdrop of the subject itself, by examining the edit history. Glass is half empty when we note that there is little Wiki info on ], but it overflows when we investigate the .
	So cheers! Enjoyed your observations. ] (]) 04:25, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
	:Thank you! I'm glad to know people are reading this essay - when I blow my brains out I shall, it seems, have the comfort of knowing I left at least one thing of value behind to the world. You are absolutely right about the educational value of nationalist fanaticism from a sociological viewpoint (quite apart from the entertainment value). If Misplaced Pages achieves nothing else it will certainly at least have added to the store of humanity's collective self-knowledge of the human psyche - even if it fails as an encyclopaedia. Misplaced Pages as the great explorer of the subconscious? Oh, so ''that's'' what Jimbo meant all along :) Cheers, ] <sup> ]</sup> 22:54, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
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	== dcvoice and molag ==
	No wonder you're on my ]. Burn the red tape. ''']''' <sup>(])</sup> 13:32, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
	:Thank you. This means a lot, this does, coming as comfort right in the middle of storms and tempests with an apparently effortless ability to multiply themselves. Cheers, ] <sup> ]</sup> 22:46, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
	::Well, it is true that we need more admins who don't take shit from trolls, such as you. And Elaragirl said she'd be unsuitable for adminship... ''']''' <sup>(])</sup> 23:23, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
	==Gilbert and Sullivan==
	Hello, Moreschi. The blocked editor has violated the 3-revert rule again. Would you please take a look? Thanks! -- ] (]) 17:01, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
	:Blocked him for a month yesterday, and that's his final block before we remove him permanently from the scene. He's showing an almost limitless appetite for fighting over trivialities, which we just can't have - for one thing it's disruptive, and for another intensely boring. Cheers, ] <sup> ]</sup> 22:47, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
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	To make a long story short, I just discovered Veropedia and immediately went to see if "]" made the cut - and it's your FA. Nice! Does that mean I might be welcome as a contributor there? ] (]) 03:37, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
	== ArbCom questions ==
	Hi. I'm ], editor of the ]. We're interviewing all ArbCom candidates for an article next week, and your response is requested.
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	Please respond on my talk page. We'll probably go to press late Monday or early Tuesday (UTC), but late responses will be added as they're submitted. Thanks, ] ] 04:47, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
	== DYK!!! ==
	{{resolved}} Thanks, anyway! ] (]) 17:41, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
	DYK is way overdue. It has been 13 hours since last update. That means one complete cycle has been missed and the next cycle late. Please help. I saw that you edited recently so I am contacting you. I am contacting more than one person due to the extreme lateness ! Red alert! Thank you.] (]) 16:54, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
	==Mail==
	Not that urgent (with the possible exception of one bit). --] (]) 20:10, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
	:Cheers. Brief reply. --] 16:03, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
	== ] ==
	I've updated your formating here some, making it a bit less '''<nowiki><strong></nowiki>''', adding bullets, and removing whitespace. When adding a new message to that page, there is a COOKIE_ID counter to increment, when changed it will reset the option. While this is an interesting new contest, I think the all bold was overwhelming. Thanks, — ] <sup>]</sup> 15:27, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
	:Thanks, much obliged. I'm quite the technofool, so I really do appreciate your help. On my first try I managed to wipe out the bar down the side...Cheers, ] <sup> ]</sup> 15:38, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
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	You may be interested in ] regarding your message in the watchlist. ]&nbsp;(]&nbsp;'''·''' ])</span> 16:02, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
	== Regarding ] ==
	Hi, I've listed ] at ] over concerns it breaks ]. Sorry for not discussing with you before listing it, I wasn't aware that was the etiquette. -] (]) 12:08, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
	:If I had two heads like you, Zaphod, I could have hours of fun bashing them against a brick wall...
	:Arrrgggh, for crying out loud, this is sooo petty. Please excuse my frustration, but really. How many people do we know who won't contribute to Misplaced Pages because they fear their good work can get so easily trashed? Surely ''anything'' that counteracts that feeling is A Good Thing. Misplaced Pages articles get improved, get stable, get reviewed. How is this a bad thing? This is all entirely related to Misplaced Pages, massively beneficial for Misplaced Pages - and I get told I'm spamming. I don't even have a financial stake in Veropedia. Why am I not getting paid to edit?
	:All I'm asking is that you measure up the pros and cons of this as it affects the encyclopedia. IAR exists for a reason...] <sup> ]</sup> 15:02, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
	:Would you consider changing your signature, and just linking to the subpage from your main userpage or something like that? As things are, it seems kind of spammy, even if your intent is good. -]<sup>]</sup> 17:26, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
	::Please do change your signature; ] footnote 1 points out the community consensus against using signatures to link to[REDACTED] discussions, and I think the principle is equally applicable to this link in your signature. ] 15:36, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
	::I agree, I thought it was odd and a bit of an annoyance to go through an extra page when trying to reach your talk page. Just an idea. ] (]) 18:24, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
	== DYK ==
	{{Resolved}} Thanks. ] (]) 20:11, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
	DYK is 10 hours late, which is almost 2 cycles missed. I;ve moved hooks to the next update. Can you help and place them on the main page? Thank you. ] (]) 17:48, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
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	== Can you take a look and give a hand? ==
	]. See also ].
	Thanks, ] <small>]</small> 17:53, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
	== DYK backlogged again ==
	Hi, ] backlogged six hours (a full cycle), your attention would be appreciated. ] 22:34, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
	== ArbCom table with portfolio links ==
	Hello! As we did for last year's election, we are again compiling a ]. This table contains a column "Portfolio" for links that display candidates' pertinent skills. I will be going through each candidate's statements and gradually populate the column, but this may take some time. Please feel free to add some links in the form <nowiki></nowiki> if you feel it shows conflict resolution skills, or <nowiki></nowiki> otherwise. It would also be helpful if you can check if the information about you is correct.
	My motivation is that as a voter, I don't want to just rely on a candidate's words, but also see {{genderneutral|eir}} actions. Moreover, I believe a portfolio of "model cases" to remember in difficult situations can be useful for each candidate, as well. I believe that conflict resolution skills are most pertinent to the position, but if you want to highlight other skills, please feel free to use a new letter and add it to ]. &mdash; ] 05:41, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
	: I took the arbcom links from ] and put them in the table. However, they don't really show good arbitration or conflict resolution skills. Do you have anything to show in that field? &mdash; ] 22:49, 4 December 2007 (UTC) {{User:SebastianHelm/unwatch|08:24, 7 December 2007 (UTC)}}
	== {{vandal|Callmebc}} ==
	Good evening, Moreschi. I have received a private request to look into your block of the above user, who you indefinitely blocked last week. I understand that he has been particularly abusive, but could you outline some of the situation around your decision to implement this final block?
	The user's particular concerns seem to be that there was insufficient discussion undertaken prior to this block on a ''long-standing editor'' (of course, I disagree with this point - there's no doubt that BC has been a disruptive contributor). Cheers, ] 17:13, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
	:It seems he's been banned - there was an AN thread concerning this. The consensus there, which certainly reflected my own opinion, was that this chap was not capable of editing collaboratively, and his contributions seemed to consist largely of edit-warring, POV-pushing and uncooperative editing on a pretty narrow range of topics. Cheers, ] <sup> ]</sup> 10:31, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
	== ] ==
	Hey, there. Just wondering if you'd care to comment on this user's current unblock request. They're claiming a "friend" got access to their computer. Seems a bit odd that said friend would find their way to ArbCom elections, so quickly, but there is some history of contribution on the account, so I figured I'd ask for your input. Thanks in advance. &ndash; <span style="font-family: Garamond">] (])</span> 02:11, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
	:Left a note on his talk page. Thanks for posting here. Cheers, ] <sup> ]</sup> 10:31, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
	::Given your previous interest, you might like to know there's a new development. &ndash; <span style="font-family: Garamond">] (])</span> 15:29, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
	== Hello ==
	Apparently you know something that I don't. Have you been spreading the false rumour that I was associated with the Investigations list, or are we being trolled? Cheers, ] ] 04:55, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
	:We're being trolled. I know full well that you were not associated with wpinvestigations-1, nor with cyberstalking to the best of my knowledge. The list I gave to a few people of the investigations membership list, that somehow then wound up on Misplaced Pages Review (I can only assume that this is what happened, and I'm very slightly annoyed about this), did most certainly not have your name on it! Apologies for the inconvenience. ] <sup> ]</sup> 10:24, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
	::And I've blocked the trolling IP. Some people never learn, do they...] <sup> ]</sup> 10:47, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
	== ] ==
	Hi, Could you please have a look at this:
	] Thank you in advance. --] 07:40, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
	==Request for Arbitration: notification==
	I've placed a request ] for an Arbitration case, in the matter of ], in which you would be a party. ] 08:41, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
	==Dbachmann at arbcom==
	I noticed that you commented on this case. I think you should also mention your involvement in the case: that is, your involvement in getting deeceevoice blocked. I'd jump in and say something myself, but I thought it'd be better if you did it so it won't come across like an attack. I just think it's best for everyone to know what stakes are involved and keep things out in the open. ] 15:41, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
	== Veropedia question ==
	At ], we're bouncing around some ideas regarding the potential for closer cooperation with Veropedia; since you've been fairly prominently involved with it, I was hoping you might be able to offer some comments on ] (or might at least know whom we should ask). Thanks! ] 16:53, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
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	On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, <span style="font-family: verdana;"> — ] • ] • </span> 17:50, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
	==Mail==
	Might be of interest. --] 09:41, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
	==DYK backlog==
	If you are free, it would be great to update ]. I would do it myself, but I still don't understand the process and with articles in the running, I don't want to fall into a conflict of interest. Thanks. ] 14:00, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
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	<b id="news_quelle">Quelle Suprise! ] is a Queen!</b><br>
	Our dear ], never a stranger to controversy, recently decided to delve into the ] of the ], and what did he discover? King James had more than appreciative eyes for ] Naturally, Haiduc felt the need to share this news with the community, but instead of being praised for his scholarship, he was reviled. In fact, one rabid heterocentrist even rummaged around in his own wardrobe until he found an old pair of ] to play with. All seemed lost until astute editor ] noticed some odd postings and did some sleuthing of his own. The socks were uncovered, the ] was ] and readers the world over were able to learn that Good King James regularly ordered tube steak from the menu of the day. Thank you, Haiduc! Thank you, Jeff! And let Miss Julie add (for readers who ]) that ] tastes just like ]!
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	Well, maybe it's not Miss Thang, herself, but it's the next best thing: ]! he stirs up just about as much controversy as his idol does, even here on Misplaced Pages. Though it's all a bit of a muddle, one of our editors hopes you can drop by the talk page and leave a message of hope for those battling the forces of obstructionism in that little corner of the Wiki World. It is so hard to spread enlightenment. As ] herself said, "You can lead a whore to culture, but you can't make her think".
	<b id="news_gameshow">]</b><br>
	Wallowing in cash from the latest , the powers-that-be have decided to sponser a little contest here to improve the articles, with a Grand prize of $100. Yeah. Just enough for a ] dinner for the family. Still, the thought is nice and the goal is noble, so we should support it. Our little Queer beehive has taken a look at what's on offer, and both the ] and ] are well represented. The ever useful ] has made a little list, which can be found ] (if that malignant bot hasn't archived it already, that is). So find a pal, roll up your sleeves and dive right in. Let's show this Encyclopedia just what Queers with firecrackers up their....err, I mean, let's show the others what we can do.
	<b id="news_jonsi">]</b><br>
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	<b id="news_sequel">Everybody loves a sequel</b><br>
	Readers not afflicted with ] will remember that last month we had a little story about ]. That proved so popular that we bring you the sequel: ] and his stalker. After a chance meeting at the ], this anonymous user took a shine to our Benjiboi, and has been showering him with attention on virtually every board on Misplaced Pages. Flattered though he is, Benjiboi finds the attention a bit distracting, and administrators have been seeking various remedies for this. It has proven difficult, as the stalker has an IP address that changes quicker than ] in a telephone booth. So perhaps some of you would like to watchlist Benjiboi's page, and lend a hand if you see some love letters from an 11 digit friend. I was actually thinking we should get Alice's harasser and Benjiboi's stalker together. Then we could have another sequel, sort of like ]. Any bets as to who would win??
	<b id="news_special">Not quite the second coming, but special just the same</b><br>
	Let me be the first to give a warm, wet, Love Boat kiss (though not with tongue) to our newest Project members: ], ], ], ] and ]. Even in the month of our Saviour's birth, your popping into our Wikipedian lives is a blessed event indeed. As Jesus Himself said, ] He did say that, didn't he? I think he said it. In any event, if he was standing next to me now, I'm sure he'd say it, and add, "Happy homo editing!"
	<b id="news_battle">Battle of the Misplaced Pages Stars!</b><br>
	Indomitable ] is holding her own in Misplaced Pages's answer to ]: ] For four feverish weeks, she has mastered the challenges and not been eliminated from the competition. Drop by the FAC page and show Ann you love her....or give her the hook (I'm not supposed to tell you how to vote). Giving our plucky Ann reason to hope is the recent promotion of ]. If Miss Julie has her way, we will have the entire alphabet of Queerdom Featured here on Misplaced Pages soon! And I would be remiss if I did not give a warm, Lesbian salute to our own ], who showed Misplaced Pages with ] that even ] are no protection from the Love that dare not speak its name, and got a ] for her efforts.
	Climbing the Misplaced Pages career ladder is ], who has not only written, but is now promoting ] to ]. Best of luck, Tim, and remember: there are no small parts, only small actors. We're sure you'll be trading that green circle for a gold star soon (assuming you get the green in the first place!).
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	<b id="news_needelves">Santa needs elves</b><br>
	Yes, I know: packages need buying, trees need trimming, egg nog needs drinking. The holidays make many demands on our time. It's ...well, it's a bitch, is what it is. So I wouldn't blame you for skipping this little section and putting off my request until next year. But...think of the children. Our future. They need quality information about the homosexual "lifestyle" if we are to ]. That's why I am asking you to drop by ] and give your meaning as to the efforts of your fellow gay Wikipedians. And think: in this season of kindness and good will to all, isn't it nice that I am pointing you to someplace where you can (in a Wikiloving way, of course) rip someone a new asshole? Think about it...and those children with their shiny, bright eyes, thanking you for contributing to their future.
	Even more festively, consider joining in on the ] of our favorite articles. Here you can bandy about such words as "homophobia", "Right-wing Christian agenda" and my personal favorite, "just who do you think you're pushing around?!?!?". If you play your cards right, there might even be an ] for you. :-D
	<b id="news_urgeappeal">Urgent Christmas appeal</b><br>
	] asked me to ask you to edit ] as part of the Collaboration Project. She's an old dead poet (Miss Bishop, not Tovojolo. I've never actually met Tovojolo. She's probably very young and attractive. Maybe somebody should ask if she's single), but she was a flaming homosexual long before most of us had even been conceived, so we owe her some respect. Tovojolo actually asked me for the last newsletter, but Miss Julie forgot. Bad Miss Julie. She was so busy boosting morale it just slipped right by her. ], maybe you need to ] again to get Julie back in line.
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	<b id="news_dorothy">Surrender, Dorothy!!!!!!!</b><br>
	] has attracted the attention of a group of....the more senior elements of our gay society. They disagree with our thesis that ] was the possible source of the term, and demand we change the article to reflect their contention that ] was the origin. The problem is, their source didn't check out. So we agreed to disagree. Well, we at the project did. They got kinda mad at us, said unkind things, and started edit warring. Though they are old, they are certainly quick, and could revert the article faster than my nimble fingers could press the undo button. To quote the divine Miss Parker, every time I saw the article on my watchlist, I thought to myself, ''"What fresh hell is this?"''. The page was protected by sympathetic administrators, but keeping an eye on it will keep Dorothy safe from ]
	<b id="news_ambrosia">Ambrosia</b><br>
	Our dear ] has been busy indeed, lately. He recently made fruit salad out of ], turning a once nasty word into a damn good article, and saving it from deletion! Congratulations, Benjiboi! I hear he has turned his attention from fruit to ] now. Before he is through, he will have turned every major food group gay on Misplaced Pages!
	<b id="news_early">Christmas came early</b><br>
	Yes, indeed! Valued administrator ] was raised out of the mire of mid-level management and placed squarely into the ] And Miss Julie is just too proud of him not to mention that '''''he got the most support votes in the history of Misplaced Pages'''!'' Congratulations, WJB! We know you will not prove ] correct!
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	Yes, '''''you'''''! It's '''''you''''' who make this project shine! It's '''''you''''' who make Misplaced Pages such a valuable resource for all humanity! And it's '''''you''''' who make Miss Julie's dull life just a little bit better. So I want to take this moment to thank each and every one of '''''you''''' for all '''''you''''' do here. ], everybody! ]! ] ] ] And for our ], I wish you a ]. And if I didn't mention '''''your''''' favorite December holiday, well, it's because I feel it's so special I should just keep it between you and me. Always remember: ]
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	== Question about Veropedia ==
	Hi, from what I've heard and seen, Veropedia seems a good idea. The way I understand it (and please correct me if I'm wrong) articles are edited here at Misplaced Pages then uploaded there if they meet the Veropedia quality standards. Are the Veropedia policies identical to Misplaced Pages policies regarding content like ], ], ] etc.? Thanks, <font face="comic sans ms" color="#454545">]</font><sup>] &#124; ]</sup> 13:18, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
	==Bradley Joseph==
	Hi, when you took out fair use sound prepping for Vero upload, it created a few red errors in ref links so I fixed them, and just moved the first instance used for the refs. But I wanted to let you know in case you need the most updated version. Thanks for all you do. ] (]) 01:38, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
	:Thanks so much for your kind words. No apology is necessary. It was no problem, I knew what you were doing, and for such a worthy cause, and well worth the wait. Your contributions are invaluable. Cheers! ] (]) 04:49, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
	== DYK ==
	Hey, Moreschi, I noticed DYK's fallen about a day behind where it really should be, so try, if possible, to get the updates as close to on-schedule today as possible, so we can work through the large (but worthy) November 30th, which needs at least one more update after this one to clear of the worthy noms, and start trying to get back to speed. I'd do it myself, but, well, have an essay to write, and it's a pretty slow thing to update. ] <sup>]</sup> 11:18, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
	== Request ==
	I'm baffled by and your edit summary. Can you explain what you are doing? --] (]) 16:28, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
	==Could you help move some artricles?==
	An old friend of ours (]) has been creating all caps titled articles: ], ], and ]. Would it be possible to move them to Coloratura soprano etc.? Thanks if you have time. -- ] (]) 01:24, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
	== Serbian nationalism ==
	Hi, I read your "Plague" article, and was wondering if you can tell me what to do about this situation. I recently reverted a couple of mildly nationalistic edits by ] on the ] page. I then took a look at his user page, and I've never seen anything quite so militant on Misplaced Pages. In case you're not up to speed on your Serbian, his user name translates to "Serbia to Tokyo", which is a 1990's era far-right slogan. While I understand that users have rights to free expression, some of the userboxes on his page (especially the one equating the Albanians and the KLA with terrorists) seem to cross the line to personal attacks. Is there anything that can be done about this? Thanks a lot! ] (]) 19:53, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
	:Oh, Christ. That is pretty bad. Well, perhaps we should count our blessings. At least he's spelled out his POV beautifully for us. Misplaced Pages educates the world? Yes, one clueless nationalist at a time...(quoting Dbachmann). It never gets better, does it?
	:More concretely, I think it's probably best to leave the userboxes alone. This may be painful, but I think we will find them useful. I'll keep my eyes open and...ah, see what I can do :) Cheerio! ] <sup> ]</sup> 19:46, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
	== Veropedia edit ==
	For the record, I consider to be unacceptable. Misplaced Pages content should not be substantially altered in the interest of third party websites.--]] 21:49, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
	:Ask me if I care two furry fucks. How many Misplaced Pages articles have I fixed this way? 50? Added references? Cleaned up bad fair use? Fixed the spelling? Copyedited? Fixed dabs? Removed broken links? And what thanks do I get? You wasting your time and mine. ] <sup> ]</sup> 19:42, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
	::Looks like a legitimate edit to me. Removing Fairuse material should be encouraged. We /are/ a free-content encyclopedia after all. <b style="color:#c22">^</b>]</sup>]]&nbsp;<em style="font-size:10px;">15:28, 10 December 2007 (UTC)</em>
	*Moreschi's right, and ^demon's affirmation of his stance is right too. Sorry Erik, you're quite wrong. --] (]) 20:47, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
	== Haute-contre ==
	As you may have noticed, I've been doing a bit of work lately on ] and ]. I've now had a go at ] - what do you think?--] (]) 20:48, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
	==Love it==
	You've got the idiom down! Marvellous! (I do enjoy your periodic updates to that page. They're usually spot on, too.) Cheers, ] ] 21:48, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
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	== veropedia ==
	Hi Moreschi, very long time no chat. :-)
	Who gets the money Veropedia makes?
	No, I mean, who '''''really''''' gets it? I eat little two-dollar lunchboxes for most noon meals. I live in a dorm for teachers. I work my tail off... for '''free''' ... and is someone getting a nice cushy paycheck from the sweat of my brow? Got tax forms to prove they aren't? Thanks! ] (]) 12:11, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
	:To date the question is really moot, because Veropedia has only been a financial drain on myself and a couple of my close friends who have supported me in this endeavor. Total earnings? Considerably less than one dollar. That is intended to pay for our server, contest, legal fees for registration of the tm, etc. For information about where the money will go if it starts making money, why not check our FAQ? ] (]) 16:54, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
	::Many ]s are willing to eat a loss during the startup phase ("take the risks involved to undertake a business venture"). If Veropedia is for-profit, then there are zero-point-zero legal restrictions against someone pulling down a fat paycheck, should it become popular. That would be legal, but immoral. ] (]) 01:19, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
	:::Veropedia is being run off the backs of volunteers who believe in the project, mainly because they feel that Misplaced Pages is engaging in some legal but immoral acts of its own. I somehow suspect that if Danny started trying to make money out of it, all Veropedians would all immediately jump ship once more onto the next Veropedia until we find a perfect system. ] (Have a nice day!) 16:05, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
	:Having met Danny in real life, and experiencing first-hand his extraordinary devotion to the project, the passion and enthusiasm he brings to it, and his desire first of all to bring a high-quality, free-content encyclopedia to the world, all I have to add is that there is ''no way'' he is intending to use the volunteer labor of the contributors for his own financial gain. You are free to believe me or not -- but here I am willing to assume the best of faith, for one of the best of people. Paraphrasing La Rochefoucauld: it is more dishonourable to be suspicious than to be deceived. You're in good hands folks. ] ] 16:20, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
	::My ''impression'' is that Veropedia has the for-profit status for legal reasons, so that it can get revenue from ads, which are used to keep the servers running. It would be great to have some sort of confirmation from Danny about this. Caveat: I'm a Veropedia contributor too, mostly in name only. --]] 16:24, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
	:::'''].''' That means legal docs (esp. tax docs), not shinyhappy wordses. :-) ] (]) 17:51, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
	::::For what it's worth, there's already a number of companies making money off wikipedia's content without giving anything back - googling "User:WilyD" I can find a host of companies mirroring my own userpage in a for profit context with ads and so on - mainspace pages considerably more. Beyond that - Veropedia is a new company, so it has not (I believe) filed any tax forms yet, having not been around for a tax cycle. If you concern is that companies are making money off of Misplaced Pages, they are, yeah. It is, actually, part of the point of free content. ]<font color="FF8800">]</font> <small>—Preceding ] was added at 18:58, 14 December 2007 (UTC)</small><!--Template:Undated--> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
	== Counter-tenor ==
	Hello, At your suggestion I have removed the video links to Youtube, but would be grateful for some legal advice about this. Come to think of it, if it is OK, it would surely be everywhere on Wiki already! Hope you got the e-mail I sent to your googlemail address All best, Nick--] (]) 23:32, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
	== ] ==
	Can you have a second look at this unblock request? It comes from an IP you've hardblocked. -- ] <sup>]</sup> 13:24, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
	:Shrug. Your call. The IP was absolutely Hkelkar, and he does have a limited number of IPs (hence the lengthy block). The user really doesn't look like him - I can only suggest a shared IP, perhaps university accommodation? ] <sup> ]</sup> 14:01, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
	==ANI on BC==
	] is a valid complaint. How is that disruption and indef blockable? <span style="font-family: verdana;"> — ] • ] • </span> 15:37, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
	:Because he's not here to contribute to the encyclopaedia, is he? Oh, and hadn't you noticed that is very evidently a sockpuppet? Gets to ANI using diffs perfectly on first edit? Come off it. ] <sup> ]</sup> 15:40, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
	::He probably is someone else, but his complaint is valid, so his edit is legit, you come off it.<span style="font-family: verdana;"> — ] • ] • </span> 15:44, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
	:As an outside view, I'll say this: The block does not appear to be a valid block. The users first edit was to ANI, yes, however the user was clearly making a valid complaint. The fact that you consider a valid complaint "disruptive" (which you must otherwise the block would not have been issued) reflects very negatively on your judgment as an administrator. - ] (]) 15:48, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
	:I'll add here that, even if the account is an alternate account (formerly a sockpuppet), that wouldn't necessarily justify the block either, per current ] policy. Per the ] that existed before a few weeks ago, this block would be utterly unjustifiable per a sockpuppetry claim. --] <sup>]</sup> 15:57, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
	Since when did I ever read policy? I'm astounded by the lack of common sense here, and the sheer quantity of knives out for Betacommand. ] <sup> ]</sup> 16:45, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
	:CM, this discussion is not about getting the knives out for Betacommand. This is about the fact that some of us have been trying for a while to ensure that people can choose to make dangerous comments without compromising their other on-wiki work. This sort of block doesn't help that. (I share your disdain for policy-wonking, but the fact is that policy has become increasingly important over the past two years, and us ordinary writers can't ignore it any more when it is increasingly written by, and becomes a tool for, pushers of marginal POVs.) ] (]) 23:35, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
	::I am prepared to remove the block on Lurkington, to make it clear that a block of even a SPA for making a valid complaint is not appropriate. I do not want to continue the drama over this unnecessarily, perhaps it would be simpler if you unblocked the account yourself. ''']''' (]) 19:00, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
	Shrug. I don't care either way, since I'm quite sure that account, having served its sole purpose, will not edit again. If you want to unblock I'm not going to wheel-war, since my block has served its purpose as well. We've lost no encyclopaedic contributions, I'm certain of that. If you want to make this pointless procedural gesture, go ahead. I could not care less. ] <sup> ]</sup> 19:10, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
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	==DYK==
	It's overdue and I see you may be online. Would you move the next updates to the main page? I added a hook to fill it. Disclaimer: I have no DYK hooks pending, just helping out. ] (]) 20:00, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
	==VartanM==
	Can you please, take a look at this ? Generalizing all people of one ethnicity as having a "bazaar mentality". I am not sure how many times do people, contributing at their own free leisure and time, must get insulted this way, before AE takes action on ] and ]'s disruptive attacks along ethnic lines. Thanks. ] (]) 18:55, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
	:One should take a look at your words calling the entire people of Nagorno Karabakh puppets of Armenia. ] (]) 18:56, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
	::Lol, you went as far as reporting the mediator to ANI. Thats gotta be a first on AA history. ] (]) 19:02, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
	Chaps, attacking an ethnicity is only indirectly a violation of Misplaced Pages policy, but it's annoying and not something we want to see too much more of (Misplaced Pages ain't a soapbox either).
	Arbitration enforcement is getting stupidly clogged up with your battles. At the moment it ain't all really working, I think you'll both agree. Perhaps we need a new approach. Here's an idea. I'll be full-time mediator and admin-enforcer to the Armenia-Azeri fights for a fortnight. If you accept, fine. If so, however, we're going to have work out a system whereby I get told where the latest fights are breaking out, because I haven't got every single Armenia-Azeri article listed. ] <sup> ]</sup> 19:04, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
	::Moreschi, I agree with you. But this is another attack . I am not sure why VartanM is so angry and is trying to attack everyone, but if he believes someone is some Adil (before he assumed several others, including me, being Adil too), he needs to calm down and file a checkuser, instead of generalizing people along ethnic or personal lines. His statements about Ehud Lesar are really demeaning. ] (]) 19:32, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
	Moreschi, that Ehud is Adil isn’t even a matter of belief but confirmation. We brought it up during the last arbitration and it was ignored. Some of Ehud’s theories are specific to Adil. It should be noted that Adil registered another Jewish name the same month Ehud was registered, and Ehud resumed editing only after the other account of claimed Jewish origin was blocked.
	Ehud is always there the same day conflicts happen and right on target at the right articles. Who besides the Azerbaijani lobbyists like Adil Baguirov call Khojaly a genocide? Who besides Adil here had claims over Sevan, positions not even addressed by Grandmaster, not that I recall, while such questions were brought forth by Adil.
	So again, Atabek’s claims of ''another attack'' are baseless, Francis was the one suspecting him at first, and it is no secret that everyone who has seen Ehud contributing is 100% sure it is Adil. Vartan should not be blamed for the arbitration committee’s refusal to even study the case of Ehud. Tell me what should be done there. - ] (]) 20:37, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
	:Fedayee, I don't believe your name was mentioned anywhere in my report. So may we know why you're a participant in this thread if not for engaging in battles along national lines? Again, instead of endless conspiracy theories about Adil and Ehud being the same person, it's much simpler to just assume a good faith and file a checkuser. Otherwise, since all of you are always involved in same threads and pages shall we claim that you're VartanM, Andranikpasha, Steelmate, MarshallBagramyan or maybe even, banned Artaxiad with his ? I would think that checkuser is a more constructive and professional approach. Thanks. ] (]) 22:01, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
	== ] at WP:ANI ==
	Moreschi, since you blocked ] last, would you consider my requirements at ] reasonable? I doubt he'll agree to that last one but what the hell. I think I'm being too nice but then again, I don't know how crazy he's been. Frankly, I'm too much of softie some days. =\ -- ] (]) 07:26, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
	:Commented at ANI. Cheers, ] <sup> ]</sup> 11:04, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
	== Callmebc ==
	I've started a discussion about unblocking Callmebc, per a discussion I've had via email with him. There's a thread which you, as a blocking admin, might want some input in. --] (]) 08:53, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
	:Commented at ANI. Thanks for letting me know. ] <sup> ]</sup> 11:04, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
	== Re: Dbachmann ArbCom ==
	Ok, noted. ] 16:31, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
	==De-TWINKLE==
	I don't think ''that'' was necessary. - ] <span style="font-size: 0.8em;"><sup>]:]</sup></span> 20:20, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
	:oh, nice...you protect it so I can't readd. Real mature. - ] <span style="font-size: 0.8em;"><sup>]:]</sup></span> 20:22, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
	:Not strictly necessary, but it's surely better than being blocked, no? Besides, you really weren't using TWINKLE appropriately - save it for the obvious vandals next time, please. ] <sup> ]</sup> 20:23, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
	Oh, and the protection is for 96 hours only. I think this beats having an ugly scar in your block log. ] <sup> ]</sup> 20:23, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
	::Personally, I would have taken the block...that way I would have TWINKLE when I got back....but I will take it.
	::I like it when the user is "experienced", it isn't vandalism. JPG-GR was linking to a website that wasn't even close to correct ( and the station is on 104.9) and he had the station listed as owned by Cumulus Broadcasting. The FCC license said CapStar, which is a licensee of Clear Channel Communications. The website even had the Clear Channel logo. So, when I seen that, I considered it vandalism. Even if the station was called "Mix 104.9", it didn't matter. Everything he added to the page after the fact would be considered vandalism as well. We can't tell what is and isn't.
	::I tagged him with a Warn2 (since he should know better Warn1 was too petty) and because he should know better than to add crap like that, he reverted and I tagged him with a Warn3, he reverted a third time and I tagged him with a Warn4 and a 3RR warning. The 3RR warning, believe it or not, because I didn't want him to go over that "4 revisions and you're out" line. He reported me to 3RR...and '''I''' get punished? That one bothers me. - ] <span style="font-size: 0.8em;"><sup>]:]</sup></span> 20:33, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
	:::But it's not vandalism, is it? If he's wrong, prove it to him on the talk page. Discuss. Don't just flat revert right up to the electric fence of 3RR and hand out these stupid little templates with an mock-rollback tool that's ''supposed'' to be saved for vandals. Oh, and that fair use rationale isn't good enough, either, so you can stop using TWINKLE to revert BCBot there. ] <sup> ]</sup> 20:37, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
	::::Well, I would, honestly I would. But when I post to his talk page, it is instantly archived. Take a look. So, I know if I post anything, it isn't going to get answer. I could, yes, post on his talk page asking "why do you have this station listed as Cumulus when it is owned by Clear Channel" and "what proof besides the website do you have that the station is carrying this branding". But what do I do when my questions go unanswered (which I completely figured they would) and he continues to revert? Yeah, that isn't assuming good faith, and that is a "bad mark" on me. But honestly, what would I have done?
	::::Also, I reverted that just before you ix nayed TWINKLE. BetaCommand and I have some problems over the F-URs. He doesn't like the way I do mine and refuses to explain how they are to be done. So, I don't know what to tell ya there. - ] <span style="font-size: 0.8em;"><sup>]:]</sup></span> 20:42, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
	Yes, if you leave bile-filled personal attacks on his talk page, to complement the silly warning templates, he will archive them instantly. Good for him. I recommend staying civil and using the article talk page.
	Re your fair use rationales - they aren't detailed enough by half. Have a chat to Riana, she's quite good about these. ] <sup> ]</sup> 20:45, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
	:Last check Riana had left Wiki. :(
	:The comments I left JPG....I wouldn't call them "bile-filled" or "attacks", I call it me being really pissed off. Especially at a user that should know better and since he checks and double checks everything, he should have caught that. If he see it and switched it to Cumulus anyway, that, in my opinion, is vandalism. But again, what do I know.
	:Also, would you mind adding Popups back? I can't tag anyone or revert with popups. I actually just use them to see what an edit is without click on the page. Make things ALOT easier. - ] <span style="font-size: 0.8em;"><sup>]:]</sup></span> 20:55, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
	No will do, you can just revert or tag manually for 96 hours. 'Twill do you no harm whatsoever. Now, vandalism. As far as I can make out, this gentleman you're arguing with is acting in good faith - ergo not vandalism. ] <sup> ]</sup> 21:01, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
	:I kinda figured, no worries. As far as JPG-GR is concerned, I can't agree that he was acting in good-faith. With the history him and I have here, there is no way I can say whether he is acting in bad faith or good. That is a bad mark on me because I am not assuming good faith, but with him, I can't. His actions sometimes make me wonder if he is acting in good faith or not. - ] <span style="font-size: 0.8em;"><sup>]:]</sup></span> 21:06, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
	:I'm not entirely comfortable with allowing Neutralhomer to revert at all, even without the use of "tools." The tools just aided his blind reverting. The reverting itself is what's disruptive. ] (]) 21:07, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
	My only comment on the matter - I have no intention to communicate on my talk page with someone who (a) trolls my edits, (b) blindly reverts despite explanations to support edits, (c) "templates" me as if I'm a n00b, and (d) most importantly, has a lovely yellow bar on his own talk page that says any comments by myself will be instantly deleted. Any discussion regarding edits in articlespace can take place on articlespace talk pages. ] (]) 21:06, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
	::Yes Metros, let's treat the editors like they haven't a clue what they are doing. If you don't want me to have TWINKLE or anything else, take it up with WP:AN. But I don't think you can take the "undo" link away from a user completely.
	::JPG, that nice yellow bar is there in direct response to your "insta-archiving" of anything (snarky or polite) I add to your talk page. If you want to talk to me, I will gladly take you name down from that. Also, if you don't want me to "treat you like a n00b" as you put it, then don't treat me like one either. I think we have been here about the same length of time, so we are in no way n00bs. - ] <span style="font-size: 0.8em;"><sup>]:]</sup></span> 21:28, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
	Ah, I see Riana has put the popups back. There's more mercy in the one corner of her heart that concerns itself with Misplaced Pages than in all of my pit of darkness - you should bless her clemency thankfully, as I don't think you really appreciate when you've got it good. ] <sup> ]</sup> 21:22, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
	== Quick question re: ] ==
	Thank you, Moreschi. Now, here's the question - should I wait 24 hours to be safe before updating the info in the article as reflected on their website, or am I good to do so now?
	(I figure it's best to wait the 24 hours, but if outdated information can be corrected safely, why wait? I've already heard NH's opinion on the matter, but I don't exactly go to him for interpretation of policy). Thanks again. ] (]) 20:28, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
	:No, wait 48, and discuss on the talk page before that. Just my approach :) ] <sup> ]</sup> 20:29, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
	::Will do. Thanks! ] (]) 20:32, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
	:::I said 30 hours, but 48 works. - ] <span style="font-size: 0.8em;"><sup>]:]</sup></span> 20:33, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
	==Olive Branch in the Shredder==
	I extended an to JPG-GR and, of course, my post went unanswered and was "insta-archived". I think you see why I don't bother talking to him. It does no good. It is pointless to have a one-way conversation. Ya can't blame me for trying though.
	So, I ask, what do I do? You suggested talking to him. I tried (with olive branch in hand) and it was archived. What do I do? - ] <span style="font-size: 0.8em;"><sup>]:]</sup></span> 22:10, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
	:Forget about it, accept not all people accept apologies within a short time of the offense, move on? Plenty of other people to talk to/articles to edit. ;) You did your part, and that's the best you can do. (sorry for the talkpage hijack) ~ ] 22:13, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
	:Use the article talk page. If I were him I wouldn't want to talk to you either, really. Judging by your talk page he can't talk to you. ] <sup> ]</sup> 22:14, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
	:Keeping a comment up on your talk page that says you'll delete any of his posts doesn't instill much reason for him to keep your comments either. ] (]) 22:15, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
	::You all have a point. But like I said, that was in direct response to him doing what he is doing. I think I am going with Riana on this one. Take Care....] <span style="font-size: 0.8em;"><sup>]:]</sup></span> 22:17, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
	:::Yes, just do what Riana tells you to do, to the letter, and then you can't ''possibly'' go wrong! Crikey! Now, peace and quiet here for a bit ''please''! ] <sup> ]</sup> 22:20, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
	== Jewish apostasy ==
	Hi Moreschi. I noticed that after closing the AfD, you also deleted JE material as non-reliable. I guess I'm a bit concerned about how you're wearing two hats here, as both adjudicating admin and as editor. Since I think JE is often reliable and useful, I think there may be a chilling effect on my/our editing there if the closing admin pronounces JE as unreliable. Do you know what I mean? I don't want to try to use JE in a manner that may now appear as confronting the AfD conclusion. Thanks. ] | ] 22:44, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
	:Misplaced Pages is not bound by precedent. Good thing to remember that, for everyone.
	:My problem with JE is this - it's outdated scholarship and, almost by virtue of definition, hopelessly POV. Exactly the same problems beset Britannica 1911 and and the Catholic Encyclopedia of 1913. These things are not good enough to use for Misplaced Pages. The JE also appears way too Jew-centric to be of much use even in simple biography, reading through its take on Martin Luther. Misplaced Pages is an encyclopedia of the 21st century. We should use up-to-date, reasonably modern and neutral sources that are not hideboud by the prejudices of our grandfathers. That's quite apart from the factual inaccuracies these things tend to have, and either way, the JE article the WP article was based on was ''awful''. ] <sup> ]</sup> 23:05, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
	::Thanks for your response, which I appreciate. But are you expressing WP:RS policy or your own assessment? You also didn't address my main concern, which is about whether it's better to stay clear of editorial content judgments when closing an AfD. Be well. ] | ] 23:24, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
	:::Well, the keep and rename bit was in line with consensus - the stubify bit was largely my own invention, but then I'm a very rouge admin. We must have something in policy about these geriatric sources, surely...] <sup> ]</sup> 23:27, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
	::I think what Moresci says here has been the general consensus at the RS noticeboard. These sources can be used, but only very carefully. In this case, the old JE definition of the terms could be demonstrated not to be appropriate any longer. 05:40, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
	==Rachel Marsden==
	In the interests of moving forward, I have made on the ] page. It is my hope that you (and others) will participate in the discussion. Thanks. ] (]) 01:47, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
	:My apologies. I've had intended to address your in which you describe a "massive edit war". Although this is correct, I believe a review of the participants is warranted. One side opposes the inclusion of information garnered from the a news story in a reliable source, '']''. This side is composed of:
	:*{{User|70.68.151.228}} (] with a history stretching back to 21 December 2007)
	:*{{User|208.77.91.8}} (a user since 8 October 2007, with a rather troubled history)
	:*{{User|Republicon}} (single purpose account with a history beginning at 18:35, 23 December 2007 - 31 minutes after 70.68.151.228 reached the 3RR limit. I add that 70.68.151.228 has not been heard from since).
	:Those who appear to promote the inclusion include:
	:*{{User|Church of the Sub-Genie}} (a single purpose account with a history stretching back to 21 December 2007)
	:*{{User|Jossi}} (a multi-purpose account with a history beginning 16 April 2004)
	:*{{User|Vancouver dreaming}} (a multi-purpose account with a history stretching back to 13 July 2007)
	:*and myself, ({{User|Victoriagirl}}, a multi-purpose account dating from 20 March 2006).
	:I believe these facts to be of some relevance - and, therefore, wanted this information to be recorded. ] (]) 02:42, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
	Due to ], there are some extra complexities here that need working through. I think we can all take a break from this article for Christmas, but then quite a lot of thought, tact, and care will be needed. It's worth noting, by the way, that although Arthur Ellis is banned historically his edits to this article appear to have been OK. ] <sup> ]</sup> 19:42, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
	== Evidence on Adil's sockpuppetry ==
	Hi Moreschi, I have collected some evidence that Adil = Ehud, here you go . I started adding the evidence, I will be adding more depending on how much you request if this is not enough. I am really amazed that no one sees anything in Adil's game. The reason I don't want to add all the evidences at once is that, from experience, I know it won’t even be read. - ] (]) 03:06, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
	== The return of sm565/Orion4 ==
	], whom you indeffed for disruption on the ] page, and who later returned as checkuser-confirmed sockpuppet ], is continuing to disrupt ] as IP address ]. The connection between the IP and both these accounts is made obvious from these two diffs:. Not sure what you feel like doing about this, given the current climate regarding blocks of disruptive SPAs, but I felt I should bring it to your attention. ] (]) 15:39, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
	:Blocked the IP for a week. I rather doubt this will get me desysopped, though you do never know these days. ] <sup> ]</sup> 19:38, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
	== Admin noticeboard thread ==
	Hi there is a thread on the admin noticeboard ], which involves a discussion of unblocking an IP you blocked. ] (]) 20:14, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
	:Shrug. My block of the IP was perfectly normal. I'm a bit dubious about blocking Irishguy, though: if the IP's edits weren't vandalism they were certainly bloody close. If you want to unblock them both, couldn't care less. ] <sup> ]</sup> 20:16, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
	::Thanks. As it happens, completely agree, the IP should have been blocked. I'll unblock both accounts, because that seems the easiest way of unblocking Irishguy. Thanks again! ] (]) 20:25, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
	==SSP==
	Hi. In you referred to checkuser evidence. Can you state something about it here: ]? Thanks. <span style="font-family: verdana;"> — ] • ] • </span> 00:10, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
	== Merry Christmas ==
	] 04:22, 25 December 2007 (UTC)]]
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	== Faking logs comment ==
	Hi Moreschi. I noticed the "faking logs" comment at the request for arbitration. Where was the discussion about that? From what I've seen on-wiki (not really getting involved in off-wiki stuff), there was an old comment from September 2006 that Tony hasn't denied or admitted to (instead not being able to remember what happened) and a more recent comment referring back to that, which stirred up old wounds. Faking logs is easy to do. What is needed, if you want to go down that route, is to assess the reliability of the source of the logs. ] (]) 13:45, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
	:I can't really say anything about this at the moment. I haven't got enough info, though I'm looking for more, and some of this will need to come out on-wiki if Tony isn't going to get lynched for stuff he may not have said. What a mess!
	:All this off-wiki nonsense, is, however, only relevant as far as reputations and drama are concerned. The on-wiki silliness is rather more serious and there certainly ''is'' enough there to warrant further digging. ] <sup> ]</sup> 13:50, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
	::Fair enough. Careful not to get bitten by anything while digging. :-) ] (]) 13:52, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
	:::That rather reminds of a line from Irvine Welsh's ''Trainspotting'': "He's the kind ay cunt thit mugs cunts, no gits mugged fae thum". ] <sup> ]</sup> 13:57, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
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	== It's kind of hard to tell... ==
	...because someone (I think) interrupted your comment, but if you were the person who brought the Tom Lehrer humor to WP:AN, congrats! That was pretty cool. Made me laugh, anyway. ] (]) 15:28, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
	:Aye, that was me. Good old Lehrer - complete quotefarm, right saying for every occasion :) Cheers, ] <sup> ]</sup> 18:13, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
	== Unprotection of Neutralhomer/monobook.js ==
	He's asked me, saying the protection hasn't expired, and since I don't know anything about this and you made the protection I'm deferring this to you. ] (]) 18:06, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
	:Daniel was away, so I asked another user that was available and the monobook is unprotected now. Take Care to you both...] <span style="font-size: 0.8em;"><sup>]:]</sup></span> 18:08, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
	== Revert parole for ] ==
	Dear Moreschi, thanks for your post on my user page. While I understand how complicated it might be for administrators to mediate between regular users, I'd still like to ask you for clarification on putting me on revert parole. What specific Misplaced Pages rules do I seem to have violated? As far as I know I've always assumed good faith with all of the Misplaced Pages users; never insulted anyone, never broke any Misplaced Pages editing rules, etc. All of the so called "evidence" users Fedayee, Tigran and Eupator have been posting on various pages do not have any grounds. All of the mentioned log-ins at/near/after/before user Adil Bagirov's posts/log ins on Misplaced Pages, all of his travelling information, his views cannot be taken as anything. All of the users have to start at some point in time by creating an account, editing, contributing. If today you have a number of Armenian and Azerbaijani, Jewish, Russian, American editing/reverting/starting the very same articles. It shouldn't mean they are all related just because they log in and contribute a few minutes later, a few hours later, a few days later, should it?
	Again, Moreschi, I'd like to request my the parole is lifted, for I don't really see any reason for being limited.
	Thanks ] (]) 22:49, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
	Please also see this ] (]) 23:27, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
	:I have no good reason to think you're a sockpuppet of anyone. I simply found the number of reverts in your contribution history excessive. I also found Tigran's recent incivility and hostility excessive, so you'll notice I put him on civility supervision (as it's now termed). I do think, to a certain extent, there needs to be a level playing field here. I know full well you've assumed a reasonable amount of good faith, which is why I've deemed the supervised editing and civility supervision remedies irrelevant. It's only for six months anyway - revert less during that time-frame, or try discussing ''before'' reverting (which you are not required to do, but it would be nice), and I'll take it off sooner. Best, ] <sup> ]</sup> 23:04, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
	:: Moreschi, thanks for the reply. Although I have not done anything wrong to be put on parole, I can't blame you either, and will follow your advise. ] (]) 06:02, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
	== bah ==
	Trying to prove your loyalty and righteousness by abusing wronged users is smart. really. I wrongly thought you shared to some amount the moral rectitude of respectable scholars like dab. I am afraid I am wrong, you opportunist kiddo. ] (]) 15:06, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
	:Come, come, Kuntan, that's just a little harsh, don't you think? Besides, it's also a tad hypocritical, unless you've got a good sock somewhere editing the encyclopaedia constructively and well. You don't seem to realize that your IP disruption simply does more harm than good. It wastes time and accomplishes nothing. Give it a rest. ] <sup> ]</sup> 22:52, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
	==DYK late==
	Have any time to move the next update to the main page? Thank you. ] (]) 23:13, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
	Thanks anyway. ] (]) 23:38, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
	== ] ==
	* ]
	], a user you had once banned indef is causing problems at ]. I thought you'd want to look at the Arbitration enforcement page. --<small> ]</small> <sup>]</sup> 00:22, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
	:Correction, White Cat is causing problems by insisting on using propaganda sites as a reliable source. I request that you look into his recent behavior. Which incidentally started after I uploaded ] pictures into commons, White Cat just deleted the Armenian Genocide memorial image from commons and requested the ones in[REDACTED] to be delete as well he is a known denier of the event. ] (]) 02:18, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
	==] on ]==
	Hi Moreschi, Since you had offered to keep an eye on the ] page, I thought I'd bring to your attention some persistent flagrant edits being attempted on that page by ]. This user first tried to add some nationalistic fluff in the lead (see ]). He has now unilaterally removed mention of poverty, illiteracy, and malnutrition from the lead (sentences that have been part of the stable article for more than a year). He is well aware of the consensus (on the India page) that edits, especially controversial edits, be first discussed on the talk page, but has chosen to ignore it. ] has had a checkered history on the India page, including being banned for sockpuppeteering. I have already warned him on the talk page to not persist in these edits, but he doesn't seem to listen. I am on vacation and don't have the time to keep taking him on, so I'm bringing him to your attention. Regards, ]] 19:04, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
	Let me just say that what ever I do is based on other entries. I added a sentence on India's economic growth because it has brought tremendous change in India's social, cultural, demographic and economical sectors. Also, the China article goes on bragging about how China is an emerging superpower and the world's 2nd largest exporter and how its nuclear status, vast population, reserch and development base, blah blah makes it a superpower. This is also true for India, but I have not added this stuff in because it is not worthy of being included in the intro.
	I added a section on foreign relations because 60 other nation articles have it. If Pakistan, China and Bangladesh can have foreign relations, why can't India? I have taken away the sentence about social problems in India because no other featured article has such a section, even for poor nations which are featured.
	Fowler keeps looking at featured articles to try to defend yourself, so look at the facts: ], ], ], ], ], ], ] '''have no mention of social or other problems''' faced by the nation in their intro. Of the poorer countries, ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ] '''do not discuss social problems''' in their intros. All of them are featured. Why then should India? Now that Fowler doesnt have any support, he has tried reporting me to an admin!
	'''He has persistently kept reverting my good faith edits''' Misplaced Pages encourages everyone to ]. Why then does he consistently keep reverting all my edits? At one point, he has even supported a claim to stop edits on the India page. This just goes to show that his opinions and actions are misguided.
	Also, this user has an unfavorable outlook on India and would like to make India look bad. He has done this in the past with this edit and many others. I mean this user has always said that images should be featured or very very good quality and then, he adds an image of the dirt poor in the economy section when he knows that such photos should be discussed before adding and when he knows that this does not show true indian economy. This user has a history of being rude and has had questionable and rude conduct in the past.
	He has told me I should be ashamed of myself, in the past. This user keeps reverting my edits for no reason. ] (]) 20:00, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
	==Implications==
	comment pretty much implies that all of the editors who have been working hard to improve this article aren't serious or interested in scholarship. I think that's a bit rude, would you please consider rephrasing to make it less... inflammatory? ] (]) 22:58, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
	:No. We are supposed to comment on content, not contributors. I've done exactly that. ] <sup> ]</sup> 22:59, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
	== FYI: List of Important Operas ==
	I didn't reinstate my changes that Folantin reversed. I merely clicked "Save" twice on the initial post because I didn't see the changes. Apparently, the instant I made them, Folantin reversed them, then my second quick click to post put them back. - - Folantin and I have been exchanging messages since that fast double post and reversal. I was sure he had taken care of the second one, too. ] (]) 11:16, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
	:Yes, I wasn't planning to revert the second edit Charvex made until we had first had a chat. (Also, I couldn't resist the temptation to leave those Cavalli and Lully operas in what I believe to be their rightful place on the list for a couple of hours! ;) Very bad of me, I know, and I hope the gods of Wiki policy will forgive me). --] (]) 11:24, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
	::Ah, no problem. Thought it must have been something like that. As for Folantin, the gods of Wiki policy are merciful, but from thou sure and swift they will demand ''penance!'' :) Cheers, ] <sup> ]</sup> 14:22, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
	== A little too light ==
	Hi
	I believe perhaps you didn't check here (maybe I am wrong?) Please check the comments here:
	http://en.wikipedia.org/Special:Contributions/85.176.73.68
	Since I don't like curse words, I won't type them here. Some of the words are simply provocative. 72 hours is really light. This is the typical type of user that is basically impposible to work with I believe this ip is the same ]. This guy has been doing this for a while. --] (]) 16:16, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
	:I concur. That guy is never going to turn into a good editor. His only function is as a purveyor of unintentional hilarity. "These stinky idiots!" . Quite. --] (]) 18:05, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
	::Also please check this , this guy I believe is the user Moorudd. I don't care about his constant r.v. end edit warring (he has broken 3rr many times), but his name calling is really much more serious than 72 hours. --] (]) 19:05, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
	:::Yes, it is - if that were an account I would have blocked it indefinitely - but the IP may be shared and there's little point in blocking it for longer. He'll just head over to a new one, these types always do. I could be wrong though - if he does come back after the 72h I will block for longer, but chances are he won't and I have to bear potential collateral damage in mind. ] <sup> ]</sup> 19:24, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
	::::Thanks, I agree blocking ip maybe pointless. But he is a old Misplaced Pages user and checkuser confirms this . Note his attack on this which also just occured by the same ip. --] (]) 20:27, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
	== Your thoughts ==
	I'd like your thoughts on by Neutralhomer (and related edits at ]. He seems to be engaging in revert wars again using twinkle despite the actions of a week or so ago. He's also . Do you have any thoughts about this? Thanks, ] (]) 21:33, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
	:Blocked him for 24 hours, and another admin has detwinkled him for 264. Bloody nuisance and annoyingly trivial. ] <sup> ]</sup> 21:41, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
	::Thanks, I had warned him and was about to go back to block and saw your block already. Thanks, ] (]) 21:42, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
	== ] and Twinkle ==
	You may be want to see ], as it relates to ] utilizing Twinkle to remove ] tags from categories. ] (]) 21:43, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
	:Sorry, looks like you're a quicker admin than I'm a quick typer, and that says something. Thank you for your help :) ] (]) 21:44, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
	== ] ==
	Hi, there. I uploaded this awhile back for use on the ] article. You deleted it because it didn't offer a fair use rational, but I'm confident it is legitimate fair use and I'd be happy to provide one. Cheers, ] <small>'''(''' ] '''/''' ] ''')'''</small> 23:27, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
	:Sure. Do we have a decent guide to writing fair use rationales anywhere? ] looks OK, and ] is a wonderful person to talk to about these if you want any help. ] <sup> ]</sup> 23:33, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
	== WP:Caucasia ==
	What happens when the founder and the sole maintainer of a wikiproject gets indef banned? ] (]) 02:11, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
	==Mail==
	Some pretty urgent e-mails. --] (]) 09:39, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
	== Revert parole ==
	Hi,
	You recently put me on revert parole do to the Tsourkpk vandalism. I think you may have a bit of confusion. I have never done edit warring and always include edit summaries. As a member of the Counter-Vandalism Unit I have been correcting vandalism to articles. Here is what I posted on the ANI thread.
	{{vandal|Tsourkpk}} - Repeated vandalism in many articles. Has been warned numerous times however has chosen to delete many warnings on talk page. Has been warned to Level 4. Examples of vandalism:
	* removing sourced academic study calling it vandalism repeatedly, .
	* added incorrect text that is unsourced to article repeatedly ,
	* made changes against talk page decision
	There are many other examples. What is striking is that all of these changes were made in about one hour.
	I think it is clear that I am not the one doing the vandalism but it is rather this user that has been doing blatant vandalism. Please reconsider the revert parole on my account as I do not think it is needed nor do I deserve it. ] (]) 17:31, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
	:What the flaming photon? Do you have any idea what vandalism is? Any idea at all? I '''strongly suggest''' you go to ] and read it. And again. And again. And again. Also for your information, use of edit summaries does not preclude edit warring. You've been edit-warring across multiple articles as part of ''content disputes'' - not reverting vandalism, sorry. Vandalism is stuff like adding links to hawtlesbiansex.com in the middle of ]. Gah, it's stuff like this that persuaded me to delete the CVU a way back.
	:Future Perfect's evidence of your edit-warring was quite compelling and your revert parole is thoroughly deserved. Your opponents, however, will not walk away from this unscathed either. Rest assured. ] <sup> ]</sup> 17:39, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
	::What I do not understand is why I was the only one put on edit parole, I think that is a little unfair. ] (]) 17:43, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
	:::You will be joined by others shortly. I'm still figuring out who. ] <sup> ]</sup> 17:44, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
	== Dacy69 ==
	This is the first thing he does after a 3 month absence. I'm not even going count on how many articles. "''there is no such thing as Artsakh except armenian name of Azerbaijani region. It is clear attempt to legitimaze illegal entity"'' See ] (]) 20:50, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
	== Herndon ==
	See http://en.wikipedia.org/Herndon%2C_Virginia#Economy. I think that explains it. ] 00:03, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
	:''Aha''. Yes, that makes sense. Thanks. ] <sup> ]</sup> 15:46, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
	== WikiProject Karabakh ==
	Greetings Moreschi, can you clarify what you said about the above wikiproject in that won't exist for at least another month? It was created a few months back by ]. Did he forget to dot an i or cross a t when creating this WikiProject? ] (]) 01:22, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
	EDIT: I just noticed that you enforced a one month moratorium so I guess that's what you meant by the project won't exist for another month. I assume this is a moratorium on the wikiproject only and that we are free to make edits on Karabakh related articles (I wasn't a party to the arbitration). ] (]) 02:02, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
	:Closing the whole project is an overkill, you could've just asked me nicely. I still don't see anything done about the mass-reversion of Parishan. ] (]) 03:14, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
	::Overkill? I don't know the meaning of the word.
	::Feel free to edit (which does not mean edit-war on) NKR articles, but I fail to see why you can't just use WikiProjects Armenia and Azeri for the purpose. Creating a specific WikiProject for the subject staffed only with Armenians is really not going to make for a more relaxed atmosphere. ] <sup> ]</sup> 15:46, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
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	:Hmmm. I did spend New Year's Eve sitting at my desk working on my translation of the Iliad. Arduous and wearying but very fun in places, particularly when Homer starts talking about lead poisoning. Happy New Year to you, Riana - and may your block button never fail you. Cheers, ] <sup> ]</sup> 15:46, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
	== Happy New Year, Moreschi ==
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	Sorry about your ArbCom candidacy as well, Moreschi; I think you would have made a great arbitrator. Regards. ] 18:07, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
	== Meetup ==
	Hi there, I noticed you expressed interest in the Birmingham meetup last October. Just letting you know, another UK meetup is in planning stages, ]. We need input on where and when we will meet so comments would be much appreciated. Thanks. ''']''' ('']'') 16:49, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
	== FYI: ArbCom Armenia-Azerbaijan 3 case ==
	Please see ]. --<small> ]</small> <sup>]</sup> 18:05, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
	==Comic relief==
	I've just noticed White Cat's comment at the Arb that "MIPT is rather incomplete for 1975 and prior". Hmm, could it possibly be because the ASALA didn't exist before 1975? Might explain why the list is a little spartan in that period. And this comment comes from the very same editor who was recently warring to have the statement that the "ASALA were founded on January 20, 1975" included on the page. Although he previously fought to include attacks from 1968. Hilarious, but an utter waste of everybody's time. Misplaced Pages may be "the encylopaedia anybody can edit" but aren't you at least supposed to know a bare minimum about the subject in hand? And possibly have mastered the elements of chronology, i.e. time goes forwards not backwards...--] (]) 13:30, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
	:See, this is why I've been going on about the absolute necessity of IQ tests before registration for at least the last year. It's exactly what Kelly Martin once said to me all over again: "The big difference between open source and Misplaced Pages is that you had to demonstrate that you had two braincells to rub together before we gave you commit access". Maybe you should also have to demonstrate that you're not a flagrantly obvious Turk nationalist trying to shove your genocide-denying agenda at us before you edit ] articles - of course, such an obvious conclusion seems to be beyond the scope of most people. Gah! Well, at least it provides the odd laugh now and again ;) ] <sup> ]</sup> 13:38, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
	==Grandmaster==
	No any hope for a result, but anyways: can you make a comment if this note by User:Grandmaster:
	"I think the history of disruptive activity of Andranikpasha across various Wikimedia projects, including vandalism in English wiki, should be reviewed by the admins." here is a violation of Wiki policies or not? FYI: he used a "request on meta" link provided by you. ] (]) 15:11, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
	:I could do. It's certainly a violation of policy if the allegations are inaccurate. However, it doesn't seem as though they are. Are they?
	:Regardless, your past conduct here and elsewhere in months and years of previous time is not especially relevant, though it does provide useful context. It's your conduct here and now that matters - as it does for us all. Best, ] <sup> ]</sup> 15:19, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
	:I think, untill Grandmaster hasnt any fact that Andranikpasha '''vandalised EnWiki''' (cu didnt say such a thing!), it is a violation. ] (]) 15:28, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
	::Well, look. is very likely you, according to the meta checkuser. That IP gets blocked here for vandalising userpages of editors you have a history of conflict with. Quack quack. Now, admittedly, that was a while ago, and matters have changed quite a bit since July. However, Grandmaster's statement seems accurate, and hence no policy violation. ] <sup> ]</sup> 15:35, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
	:::Really, ''very likely''!? A friend of mine looks like Leslie Nielsen. Anyways he's not the actor. Just no fame:) Dont want te remaind you about ] and ], you know them better. And that there wasnt User:Andranikpasha ... in July to vandalise EnWiki, so maybe rather Andranikpasha is a sock of that IP but surely not a vandal... As I asked earlier, I didnt hope for more. Anyways, thanks for research! ] (]) 15:53, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
	I wish I had been aware of ] before it got closed, but I've commented below your close, Moreschi. If I still need to clarify my findings further please advise. ++]: ]/] 15:54, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
	:Since you asked there, I continue this discussion on my talk. Feel free to refactor it all back here if you want. ++]: ]/] 16:02, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
	== Turkish newspaper sources ==
	I think you might find this interesting. In December the US congressman ] (author of the ]) met with group of Turkish political leaders. This is how the Today's Zaman covered the story. The same day Schiff responded by a press release and a letter to the newspaper . To which the newspaper followed by .] (]) 01:43, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
	==Macedonia edit wars==
	Hi. Re ], are you done with this and can we archive it or are you still considering restrictions/revert parole? <span style="font-family: verdana;"> — ] • ] • </span> 03:07, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
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	Currently showing 8hrs+ ] (]) 12:16, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
	== rollback thanks ==
	Hi Moreschi, thanks for granting me rollback rights. I appreciate your trust and promise not to engage in any wheel wars, despite the roundness of this new ability. --]] 22:03, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
	:No problemo. I find it difficult to imagine anyone less likely to abuse the tool than yourself. Good luck! ] <sup> ]</sup> 14:02, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
	::I've decided that in cases where some explanation is helpful (such as removing POV... like earlier today, if you check my contribs), I'll use undo or popups, and in cases where speed is more important than explanation, I'll use rollback. At least I'll try things that way and see how they work out. Thanks! --]] 14:09, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
	== ] ==
	Hi. I recommend you do not grant rollback to contributors who do not need it and have not asked for it without even telling them. As can be seen here, this has the potential to lead to confusion. Thanks – ] 08:43, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
	:I see no problem with dishing out rollback randomly - it is useful only if you ever use it once in a blue moon - but in future I'll drop people a note via email. ] <sup> ]</sup> 14:00, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
	== ] ==
	I don't know if you want to add a link to the above draft on the protected page or not. Your call as protecting admin. ] <small>] </small> 14:33, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
	:Just a suggestion... The whole thing's pretty heated right now. Might be a better idea, to let it cool off for a couple days. Moreschi, you made a good call, now that I've had a few to think about it. ]] 14:45, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
	::Thanks. Hiding, I've done as you requested: I don't think that can really hurt, but now we'll no doubt see edit-warring over the draft poll. Though if ''that'' actually does happen I'll go on a big blocking spree :) Cheers, ] <sup> ]</sup> 14:48, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
	Comment: Love the image, hopefully the humor will help defuse the situation somewhat. ]<sup>]</sup> 14:51, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
	==Heinrich Hertz==
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	:Indeed it hasn't been reverted tho it should be. ] (]) 19:10, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
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	] for one week due to continued revert warring and disruption. I am informing you because you have blocked the user for similar issues in the past. ] (]) 14:37, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
	:Oh, for heaven's sake. Why was this one unblocked again? The indef block should have stuck. We're not going to get productive contributions here, are we? Bah! ] <sup> ]</sup> 22:11, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
	== ] ==
	Thought you'd be interested in knowing that the above request has closed, particularly in the conclusions regarding possible separate cases. ] (]) 23:18, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
	:Ooh, boy, the arbitrators have very badly fucked this one up. Morons! Now I'm going to have bring a couple of fucking brand new cases to sort out the remaining problems. What an absolute fucking waste of time. Bah! ] <sup> ]</sup> 10:20, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
	::While this might not help you immediately, I thought you might be interested in proposal. ] (]) 16:53, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
	::Hi Moreschi. Would you agree with what I wrote ? ] (]) 17:00, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
	:::If you do mean to bring the cases you mentioned above, it might be a good idea to indicate to some of the parties involved in the previous arbitration about them. Just a thought, of course. ] (]) 15:42, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
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	:No, you are not blocked. If you were blocked, you couldn't edit this page. You are banned from editing 3 Falun Gong-related pages for 3 months because you've consistently violated ], in addition to disruptive edit-warring and additions of copyright violations in order to create some ]. You also seem to be something of a ], with a fairly long history of causing trouble on FLG articles. However, if you do try to edit these 3 articles, you really '''will''' be blocked. ] <sup> ]</sup> 15:08, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
	When did I violate "copyright"? And which of the particular info I recently added was not factual or poorly sourced or POV? I guess you arrived at your conclusion from talk page discussions. Please see my edits and see what copy right violation or POV pushing I have done as some people accused me of. Infact if you look at the content of the edits and decide you can see who are doing POV pushing. Things are presented without sources, what is said in the sources are presented in a way that distorts what is said in the sources, relevant material is kept out of the article with several excuses, and even language showing personal bitterness is used. In particular the content I added to the tiananmen sq incident page recently doesnot violate any "copyright". It is material / content of historical significance. Presenting it in an encyclopeadia is not copyright violation. Some people with a very strong bias argue that the copyright of the video "belongs to CCP"! Anyway just look at the content I introduced and decide for yourself. This is the version of tha tianamen sq page after the edits I did.
	http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Tiananmen_Square_self-immolation_incident&oldid=184911613
	I understand the animation would fit better into a subsection than the intro but other than that what POV pushing/copyright violation is there?
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	I came back from a weekend trip only to find yet another complaint about {{User|Taulant23}}. Just a heads-up. Cheers, ] ] 21:46, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
	== I have good faith ==
	I never vandalized nor attacked the wrong user,]s page its been attacked by ] ] so they will claim lands or erase the history of the Albanian people.The page its a mess and so far no one has said or done anything to fix it.Misplaced Pages has lost her value only because of them.I'm disappointed that ] is clearly taking sides in this dispute. Perhaps he's been long enough to these topics to have lost the balance he should have as an administrator? One day justice will prevail and thank you for your civility parole guide.--] (]) 06:02, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
	p.s. just look at history, ] just deleted sources,as he call the author "source-Pseudohistorian Edwin E.Jacques" & no one says a thing,how can you reason with these guy?
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I emailed you with my university IP locations. I am not sure what else to tell you. If you have any extra questions tell me and I'll do my best to answer as truthfully as I can. --76.180.172.75 (talk) 23:04, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

I'm being a cranky pants so I want you to know I've searched your name in the noticeboards and wow. I completely get your suspicion given what you seem to deal with alot especially with me being pretty savvy and AR being a long term editor with lots of unfriends. If you want me to try and hammer down some of the previous IPs I used I can try. I'm also ok with emailing you the operating systems and browsers I've used. That way you can check me out for peace of mind. Drop a message if you do. I'd rather get that cleared up than have a cloud of suspicion hanging on me. --76.180.172.75 (talk) 02:04, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

That's fine. It had crossed my mind you could possibly be my old friend User:ResearchEditor making a reappearance, as recovered memory is rather his topic-area, but it seemed a shade unlikely based on your edits anyway and I am now perfectly satisfied that you are 1) not RE and 2)acting in good faith. Many thanks for helping to clear this up. Best, Moreschi (talk) 08:09, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

No problem. You were nice about it and given what you deal with a lot I can completely understand. Thank you for being gentle about your suspicions and giving me the chance to clear things up. --76.180.172.75 (talk) 00:56, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

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Hi. I was, you might guess, a bit disappointed at the close of Politics in the British Isles. One part of your rationale suggested that the title is politically charged; this may be the case, but we have kept History of the British Isles and dozens of categories in that tree; and consensus is to use the term as a geographic grouping when it properly refers to the entire British isles (which the article did). In any case, if the title was *really* inappropriate (in spite of books using the same name), then a rename could have been considered (I had proposed something like Multilateral relationships in the atlantic archipelago. So I guess I'm not clear on why an article about the multilateral and bilateral relationships between the countries in the archipelgo, besides Ireland-UK relations, is worthy of deletion - you yourself noted the existence of sources (there are even academic research centers devoted to the topic); the British-Irish Council as a multilateral body - and tons of ink has been spilled talking about the multilateral politics of that and associated bodies. As to the content, I barely had time to write it, as it was nominated for deletion shortly after being created; and all of it was copy/pasted to Ireland-United Kingdom relations and then jealously guarded there intact by the same people who were voting for deletion! So they actually seemed to like the content... Finally, did you see the recent news articles I added to the bottom of the discussion? These were just a taste, illustrating multilateral and bi-lateral politics and relationships that were clearly *not* Ireland-UK. Finally, pending further discussions, would you mind restoring the article to my user space? Even BHG had mentioned she was not opposed to this. anyway I'm just hoping to hear more about your rationale, and whether and how the article might be reframed so it could survive on its own; I just can't see it as just part of Ireland-UK relations... Thanks! ps: I had meant to add this to the 'academics' section; a quote "The development of Irish–Scottish studies has offered a productive means ‘of moving beyond an often debilitating and obsessive concern with relationship to England, and so of opening up new horizons’" There is so much more... --KarlB (talk) 16:11, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

Of course I will happily restore the most recent version to your userspace.

As regards further rationale for the closure...clearly the term "British Isles" is somewhat loaded, but this is mostly true purely in a political context. I don't think too many people would have problems with the term in a geographic context, beyond the Irish nationalists, I guess. The problem is that the very title of this piece links "politics" and the "British Isles" together. This is just going to be a drama magnet, and more likely a very vicious battleground.

The bigger problem, however, is one of scope. This felt like it was supposed to be in part a "Description of the current political trends as far as the bits of the BI deal with each other", part "Political history of the British Isles" (which might just about be an article, I guess, a subpage of History of the British Isles), part "new trends in the scholarly analysis of the politics of the BI". That's about 3 different potential pieces all rolled into one, with predictable results. What was deleted definitely had some usable content, but as you yourself recognize, I think, it needs reframing. Good luck. Moreschi (talk) 17:44, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. I hope you don't take it the wrong way if I put this into DRV. I haven't decided yet, but it's one course I'm considering. Best regards. --KarlB (talk) 17:46, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

Naturally not. I almost expect it with controversial, tight closes like this. Though please note that I am not trying to bar you from creating some future version, although I think a different title would be best. Moreschi (talk) 17:49, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

Hi, a few follow up questions, if you don't mind.

1. You stated above that there was an issue about the title of the article. If you (like others) see that as a problem, isn't a rename the more appropriate path?
2. Secondly, you said the scope is a problem. Scope was the main contentious point of debate with RA/BHG; the question there seemed to be, are Ireland-UK bilateral relations sufficient to describe the scope of all of the inter-country political activity that occurs in the archipelago? You seemed to agree, stating "I am not persuaded that this is not better handled as a series of "bilateral relations" articles"; but couldn't the same argument be made about Politics of the Caribbean or Nordic countries for example (which has a politics section that could be expanded? I guess I'm not sure why 'bilateral' was judged by you to be sufficient here, esp given existence of multilateral bodies amongst the exact countries described by the term British Isles.
3. Finally, I'm not sure I understand your conclusion re the academic approach; "Clearly such scholarship exists, but it does not seem extensive enough to support the burden this article would place on it" - please recall that this article has only existed a few days, and we have only scratched the surface of the literature, and I mainly added the academic section there as a stub to help establish the notability of studying politics in the British isles, to show that others have taken a similar approach (since the raison-d'etre of the article was under seige) - but I actually think post-nationalist archipalegic studies itself merits a whole article. In any case, there are several academic research centers set up to study culture, relations, and politics in the British isles using an archipelagic perspective; I'm sure others exist, it's not always easy to find in google because they use many terms "northern archipelago", "atlantic archipelago", "these isles", etc etc but they certainly exist - and I don't think any of them would say they're just studying British-Irish politics (ps: FWIW the restored article now lives here: User:Karl.brown/Politics in the atlantic archipelago). Thanks! --KarlB (talk) 20:25, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

Always happy to answer questions. Taking these in order:

1. If the title was the only problem but the article itself was adequately scoped (with just a misleading title), then a rename would be more appropriate, yes. I do not think such was the case here. 2. I do not necessarily see the "scope" issues in the same way as BHG et al. The article, as it was, certainly had scope problems, but I am perfectly open to persuasion - and indeed you make a good case - and that this is not all reducible to UK-Ireland relations. The problem - as I see it - was not that the article was useless expansion of whatever UK-Ireland relations articles we have, but more than it was trying to do too many different things at once and was completely unclear about its goals in the process. The result was something of a nightmarish mess. 3. One way to narrow the scope to something more usable would be to write just such an article on "post-nationalist archipalegic studies", which sounds like something we might benefit from. The "burden" comment relates to this; the scholarship in this area can probably stand a more narrowly focussed article, but not one so sprawling and wide-ranging as we had. Best, Moreschi (talk) 21:39, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

Ok, thanks. I guess we'll have to agree to disagree that it was a "nightmarish mess"; several people complimented the content, and several people where were 'opposed' to the article (RA, Snappy) jealously guarded a copy/paste of the same exact content in Ireland-United Kingdom relations (carefully copying over any new edits to the original as they came in...) as a ploy to prove their point that it was a fork, so I don't think your assessment of it as a "mess" was a consensus view. Also please recall that the article itself barely had time to attract other editors to the cause; who is going to spend time editing an article currently planned for deletion... I guess I'm sad it never got a chance, and I feel political correctness had a lot to do with it. Anyway thanks for your responses, I'm considering next steps now. --KarlB (talk) 14:35, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

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Would you be so kind as to revoke this user's talkpage access, as he is using to try to get others to revert-war on his behalf while he is blocked ? The guy is unbelievable. Athenean (talk) 18:50, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

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Thanks for the offer to block Ywreuv if he continues stalking me. Should I come straight to you if it continues? –Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 00:55, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

Sure. Moreschi (talk) 01:02, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. –Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 22:58, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

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Groupthink (talk) 08:12, 1 August 2023 (UTC)

"Denis Cohen" listed at Redirects for discussion

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Reactivation of Richard Wagner WikiProject

Hi. I recently reactivated WP:WikiProject Richard Wagner and noticed that you have previously been a contributor. Would you like your name to move back into the Active Partipants? Chrisdevelop (talk) 00:47, 19 June 2024 (UTC)

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