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'''Page:''' {{pagelinks|List of religious slurs}} | |||
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== ] reported by ] (Result: ) == | |||
'''Diffs of the user's reverts:''' | |||
*] violation on | |||
# {{diff2|1270068423|19:29, 17 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Undid revision ] by ] (rv, none of that contradicts my edits. There are no sources which call "pajeet" a religious slur directed at Hindus. It's only a religious slur for sikhs. There are no sources which call Chuhras Christians or Hindus, they are muslims. There are no sources which mention "cow piss drinker" originating in the US, it's from South Asia. None of my edits contradict what the talk page says.)" | |||
{{Article|Crisis_pregnancy_center}}. {{3RRV|IronAngelAlice}}: Time reported: 04:41, 26 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
# {{diff2|1270041541|16:57, 17 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Undid revision ] by ] (The articles specifically mention "pajeet" as a religious slur directed at sikhs and/or as a racial slur directed at other south asians. There is no mention of "pajeet" being directed as a religious slur at Hindus.)" | |||
# {{diff2|1270039369|16:44, 17 January 2025 (UTC)}} "/* Hindus */ not a religious slur targeted at Hindus, removed" | |||
# "The two sources added for "Pajeet" specifically mention that it's directed at Sikhs or at south asians racially, not at Hindus religiously, removed. "Sanghi" does not have a separate mention for Kashmir in any of its sources, removed. Added disambiguating link to Bengali Hindus. Corrected origin of "cow-piss drinker" to the correct country of origin as mentioned in the source. Added further information for "Dothead"." | |||
# "Undid revision 1269326532 by Sumanuil" | |||
'''Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:''' | |||
# {{diff2|1270041824|16:58, 17 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Warning: Edit warring on ]." | |||
'''Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:''' | |||
*Previous version reverted to: (this is the version reverted to in revert #3) <!-- This is MANDATORY. --> | |||
# {{diff2|1270040704|16:52, 17 January 2025 (UTC)}} "/* 'Anti-Christian slurs' */ cmt" | |||
# {{diff2|1270045411|17:18, 17 January 2025 (UTC)}} "/* Kanglu */ add" | |||
<u>'''Comments:'''</u> | |||
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All these reverts yet not a single response at the talkpage. - ] (]) 01:42, 18 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
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:I am replying here as I'm not sure what you want from me. | |||
*0th revert: (this full revert doesn't count, because it was (slighly) outside the 24-hour time window, but it is part of IronAngelAlice's pattern of edit warring) | |||
:Every edit I made is fairly accurate and doesn't contradict or vandalize any of wikipedia's rules. | |||
*1st revert: (here's the from two versions back, showing that it was a full revert) | |||
:] (]) 07:29, 18 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
*2nd revert: (here's the from two versions back, showing that it was a full revert) | |||
:: You are still edit warring without posting at the talkpage. - ] (]) 16:07, 19 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:: More reverts , can someone do something? - ] (]) 01:06, 20 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
*4th revert: This was a partial revert: | |||
::: {{AN3|p}} I also note the user has been alerted to CTOPS, which I protected the page under, so there will be no room for argument if this behavior continues. ] (]) 23:43, 21 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::Reinserted "The counseling services offered by crisis pregnancy centers use psychological pressure to discourage women from aborting" in the intro | |||
::Reinserted "fundamentalist" adjective | |||
*5th revert: (reverted/deleted the insertion of the new section) | |||
*6th revert: (deleted the NRTLC reference, which balanced the Waxman report) | |||
*and more since then | |||
Note: 4th, 5th & 6th reverts are consecutive. | |||
== ] reported by ] (Result: No violation) == | |||
*Diff of warning about edit warring: Warned against edit warring, on her Talk page | |||
*Diff of 3RR warning: warned that she had reverted 3 times today, on her Talk page | |||
*Diff of her reply: she replied "Please stop spamming my talk page" | |||
*1, 5 & 6 minutes after that reply, she reverted ''again'' (her 4th; more if you count consecutive edits) | |||
'''Page:''' {{pagelinks|Battle of Jamrud}} | |||
User IronAngelAlice is working to systematically tilt the article to her POV, by inserting accusations and criticism of CPCs, including information, over and over, and also by deleting balancing information. Examples of the false information she has repeatedly inserted, even after being told it was in error, are the "fundamentalist" label for the Christian supporters of CPCs, and the claim that "most CPCs... receive the majority of their money from Bush Administration faith based initiatives.". In many cases she has reinserted these accusations even after other editors have pointed out that the information is false. | |||
'''User being reported:''' {{userlinks|Noorullah21}} | |||
Additionally, CheckUser confirms that IronAngelAlice has a using one or more accounts abusively. Her previous account, ], is blocked indefinitely. ] (]) 04:41, 26 February 2008 (UTC), 23:30, 1 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
'''Previous version reverted to:''' | |||
*<s>{{AN3|nve}} — Consecutive reverts do not count toward the 3RR limit. Also, it looks like both editors are partially warring on the page; it is suggested that future discussion be taken to the talk page or it will be protected and/or both editors blocked. --]<small><sup>\ ] /</sup></small> 18:18, 26 February 2008 (UTC)</s> | |||
'''Diffs of the user's reverts:''' | |||
*Take another look. Perhaps I was unclear: the 4th, 5th & 6th reverts were consecutive with each other, not consecutive with the 3rd revert. I'm sorry if what I wrote was ambiguous. Consecutive reverts together count as <u>one</u> revert, not as zero reverts. This is a very clear 3RR violation. Reverts 4, 5 & 6, together, count as one revert. They were not consecutive with the 3rd revert, and none of the other reverts were consecutive. '''That's four clear, non-consecutive reverts in six hours.''' | |||
# {{diff2|1270170387|07:17, 18 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Restored revision 1270112351 by ] (]): No it hasn't, they haven't even given their conclusion, and you again edited the page to revert it.." | |||
# 19:43 25 Feb | |||
# {{diff2|1270112351|00:05, 18 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Restored revision 1270108346 by ] (]): No he doesn't, please take this to the talk page now to be more clear." | |||
# 21:46 25 Feb | |||
# {{diff2|1270108346|23:36, 17 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Restored revision 1270099439 by Noorullah21: "where they too were saved by the arrival of substantial reinforcements. | |||
# 00:05 26 Feb | |||
Akbar Khan broke off the engagement and returned to Jalalabad, leaving | |||
# 01:43-02:08 26 Feb | |||
the Sikhs in control of Jamrud, but when he returned to Kabul he claimed | |||
::What's more, the reverts in the 1:43-2:08 time period were done immediately after IronAngelAlice replied to the note warning her that she had done three reverts ("please stop spamming my talk page"). They were, in other words, no accident. They were done in deliberate defiance of WP:3RR. ] (]) 19:42, 26 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
the victory and was given a hero’s welcome. For decades after, this pyrrhic | |||
:::Reopened for someone else to take a look at or for me to look at a little later. I might have missed something as I was feeling like crap earlier. :P Cheers :) --]<small><sup>\ ] /</sup></small> 01:57, 27 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
victory was celebrated annually in the Afghan capital.39" -Lee, (calls it a phyrric Afghan victory), and Hussain isn't on google scholars." | |||
::::I'm sorry that I wasn't clear, Slakr. I can see how you could easily read what I wrote as indicating that the 4th revert was consecutive with the 3rd, which wasn't what I meant. Your confusion is the result of my ambiguity. Please accept my apology. Also, I hope you feel better soon. ] (]) 03:49, 27 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
'''Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:''' | |||
<s>Please also check the talk page: http://en.wikipedia.org/Talk:Crisis_pregnancy_center#Psalm_139_Project | |||
# {{diff2|1270110872|23:56, 17 January 2025 (UTC)}} "/* January 2025 */ new section" | |||
NCDave has tried to insert advertisements into the article. These were part of the reverts.</s>--] (]) 02:41, 27 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
# {{diff2|1270113286|00:10, 18 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Warning: Removal of content, blanking on ]." | |||
After reading more about 3R rules, this may be irrelevant. I'm not sure.--] (]) 03:31, 27 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
# {{diff2|1270205537|12:01, 18 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Final warning: Removal of content, blanking on ]." | |||
'''Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:''' | |||
:That's untrue, IronAngelAlice. ] (]) 03:04, 27 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
# {{diff2|1269985195|10:35, 17 January 2025 (UTC)}} "/* Aftermath section */ new section" | |||
# {{diff2|1270115828|00:28, 18 January 2025 (UTC)}} "/* Aftermath section */ Reply" | |||
# {{diff2|1270117437|00:37, 18 January 2025 (UTC)}} "/* Aftermath section */ Reply" | |||
# {{diff2|1270123153|01:15, 18 January 2025 (UTC)}} "/* Aftermath section */ Reply" | |||
# {{diff2|1270124950|01:27, 18 January 2025 (UTC)}} "/* Aftermath section */ Reply" | |||
# {{diff2|1270128846|01:53, 18 January 2025 (UTC)}} "/* Aftermath section */ Reply" | |||
# {{diff2|1270130305|02:01, 18 January 2025 (UTC)}} "/* Aftermath section */ Reply" | |||
# {{diff2|1270131478|02:08, 18 January 2025 (UTC)}} "/* Aftermath section */ Reply" | |||
# {{diff2|1270133699|02:23, 18 January 2025 (UTC)}} "/* Aftermath section */ Reply" | |||
<u>'''Comments:'''</u> | |||
::Well, I have to defend myself a bit. Again, this may be off topic, but this is what you repeatedly inserted on the Crisis Pregnancy Center Page: | |||
This is not the first time they are edit warring and breaking 3RR, they were previously warned by an admin . There seems to be a habit of them continuously misinterpreting the sources and pushing certain PoVs. They have opted for 3O by themselves but disagreed with the opinion given. ] 12:22, 18 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
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The Ethics & Religious Liberty Commission of the ] Convention, the largest Protestant denomination in the ], is working to equip more CPCs with ultrasound machines, through what they call the Psalm 139 Project. "If wombs had windows, people would be much more reticent to abort babies because they would be forced to confront the evident humanity of the baby from very early gestation onward," says ERLC President Richard Land on Project 139 web site.<ref>, opening a window to the womb</ref> | |||
:Im not that involved(haven’t reverted anybody, just made a comment on the talk page). As a word of advice because so many people seem to forget this fact, when your adding disputed content, ONUS is on you to attain consensus. Which hasn’t happened here. | |||
According to the Heidi Group, a Christian organization that advises crisis pregnancy centers, most women who visit CPCs and see their babies through the use of ultrasound technology decide against abortion.<ref></ref> | |||
:“The responsibility for achieving consensus for inclusion is on those seeking to include disputed content.” | |||
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:Earlier I was pretty sure I did not violate 3R. Now I'm confused. Though NCdave posted a comment on my talk page accusing me of edit-warring, he did not post links to any of the reverts he found contentious on my talk page, nor did I get a warning about the posting on this page, and there were many edits not just reverts on both my part and NCdave's.<br />Though I continue to disagree with it, I regarding Pro-choice websites. The Congressional report is now categorized as a "Pro-Choice" site per NCDave's edit.--] (]) 04:17, 27 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
:It seems that you yourself were also edit warring, except your the one who’s adding disputed content so per ONUS, you were never supposed to revert him to begin with. You need to wait until talk page discussions conclude and gain consensus. ] (]) 15:13, 18 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::Say what? You didn't know you were reverting, Alice? Your own edit summaries were: | |||
::A. The instance you pointed out was an administrator warning me for one revert on the History of India page. (Talking to Indo-Greek, the person who reported and I had a dispute with here..) | |||
::: 19:43, 25 February 2008 ('''Undid revision 193993513''' by NCdave (talk)) | |||
::B. When the individual hasn't concluded their ], you immediately reverted the page again saying they did. There's still a very open discussion with the user... (They've even edited the page most recently!.. I'd also like to remind you ] is non binding even when the opinion is given, meaning whether they say either or is in the right.. the dispute can still continue until a ] can be made. The burden of proof is on you for ] (you also kept readding a non ] source.. (Farrukh Hussain). I pointed out ] as a solution, and you keep reverting the page far before they've given their opinion. Lee... (this is now bringing the argument from the talk page here..) calls it a phyrric victory. ] (]) 16:02, 18 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::: 21:46, 25 February 2008 ('''Undid revision 194021502''' Just because an individual is pro-choice, that doesn't mean the facts s/he states are biased) | |||
:::I also told said where per ], it's per them to seek Consensus. ] (]) 16:17, 18 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::: 00:05, 26 February 2008 ('''Undid revision 194036463''' by NCdave (talk) Let's take each section one by one) | |||
::::I reverted my edit as of now per the edit summary. (the last edit prior to that is the person working on our ]. ] (]) 16:34, 18 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:::This seems like ], but anyways. The admin had warned you for the same edit warring issue, not 1RR. You had asked for 3O which an editor eventually gave one quoting: {{tq|I found a huge contradiction in your quote. You said "Nothing here calls the battle a Sikh victory," but the quote literally says "The Sikhs had beaten the Afghans"}} which was later discarded by you which is fine, but if other editors accusing you for overlooking the source and found you contradicting yourself then you should have been more cautious rather than outrightly reverting my changes. ] 16:56, 18 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::::Have you not read the rest of the discussion..? the ] is being discussed. | |||
::::You've completely ignored this. | |||
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::::Scroll down! (on the talk page). ] (]) 17:10, 18 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:::::I also didn't violate the 3 revert rule. I didn't revert 4 times, I reverted 3 times. Although of course, this seems to be more inclined toward edit warring, which both of us did. | |||
:::::@] has just jumped into the discussion (and they seem to be more in favor of my argument) -- per their most recent talk page msg on the battle of jamrud, which shows a growing consensus on my side? .. Nonetheless, I still find this report baseless. ] (]) 17:35, 18 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::::::'''Both of us did''' No, I barely reverted your changes two times. You need to go through ], don't confuse it with ]. I also think that Someguywhosbored didn't jump here randomly and what consensus you're referring to? The report is not baseless besides it shows some sign of ]. ] 19:39, 18 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:::::::What? | |||
:::::::"No, I barely reverted your changes two times. You need to go through WP:3RR" -- Yes, I'm talking about myself.. I reverted 3 times, to break the 3rr rule, you have to revert more than three times (i.e 4 times) "An editor must not perform '''more than three reverts''' on a single page" -- I also self reverted per the former. | |||
:::::::"Someguywhosbored didn't jump here randomly and what consensus you're referring to?" -- He responded on the talk page (of the page), he responded here, and he also re-reverted the page. | |||
:::::::'''"The report is not baseless besides it shows some sign of WP:MEAT."''' - Are you insinuating @] is a Meatpuppet? Because you've drawn effectively numerous flanks into the air on what this report is really about. | |||
:::::::A. In your edit summary you said the Third opinion was concluded.. (it wasn't.) | |||
:::::::B. You report here for 3rr (when 3rr wasn't violated, and I'm assuming this is more inclined toward edit war..?) | |||
:::::::C. You then throw around Meatpuppet accusations? | |||
:::::::I'm sorry but there's no way this discussion is remaining civil anymore. Did you even read the Meatpuppet page? '''"The term meatpuppet may be seen by some as derogatory and should be used with care, in keeping with Misplaced Pages:Civility. Because of the processes above, it may be counterproductive to directly accuse someone of being a "meatpuppet", and doing so will often only inflame the dispute."''' | |||
:::::::Flinging around accusations of Meatpuppetry clearly breaches ]. ] (]) 20:05, 18 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::::::::You also did revert it three times.. Shown here: | |||
:::::::: (First time) | |||
:::::::: (Second time) | |||
:::::::: (Third Time) ] (]) 20:42, 18 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:::::::::You are again falsely accusing me of breaking 3RR. You do realise that the first revert was more than 24 hours prior than the other two? I don't have much to say here it's quite self explanatory, while this is not the same case with you, where 3RR has been violated in the span of 24 hours. ] 21:09, 18 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::::::::::I'm not accusing you of breaking 3RR, I'm saying you reverted three times. To break 3RR it has to be four reverts. (you have to revert more than three times). Your reverts were also in a 24 hour period. (Or just shy of it?) | |||
::::::::::I didn't revert four times to break 3RR. Where are the diffs of me reverting you four times? ] (]) 21:12, 18 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
{{outdent|10}}{{AN3|noex}} As noted in the ''loooong'' discussion above, which again proves that using the talk page is a much preferable alternative to taking it over here. Also, this is getting a bit stale. ] (]) 12:33, 20 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
== ] reported by ] (Result: Declined) == | |||
::I then that you had done three reverts ("You've reverted three times today...") at 01:37. | |||
'''Page:''' {{pagelinks|Next Danish general election }} <br /> | |||
::Alice, I <u>know</u> you read that, because <u>you replied</u> five minutes later: "...Please stop spamming my talk page." <u>One minute</u> after that you defiantly did revert #4 (reinserting the statement that "CPC's are made to look like medical clinics, not religious organizations"), followed quickly by many consecutive additional reverts. | |||
'''User being reported:''' {{userlinks|Thomediter}} | |||
'''Diffs of the user's reverts:''' | |||
::Now you say you've (finally!) self-reverted? But you only unreverted one tiny part. | |||
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Editor was and that one more revert would result in them being reported for breaching 3RR. They made the fourth revert immediately after responding to the warning. | |||
::Also, is where I told you about the posting on this page. ] (]) 09:58, 27 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
'''Diff of ANEW notice posted to user's talk page:''' | |||
NCdave, you didn't list the links to the problem edits on my talk page. And we had both been where there were reverts as well. However, confusion on my part is not an adequate excuse, so I self-reverted the revert I did at 21:46 even though you have only listed three contentious reverts. | |||
<u>'''Comments:'''</u> <br /> | |||
I made changes to the ] page last night that I believe will be consensus building. Please look at what was done, and we can discuss them on the talk page.--] (]) 14:20, 27 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
*], I am going to revert your last (fourth) revert; you are indeed edit warring and you're not giving any reasons for your edits, never mind for your ongoing reverts. If you revert one more time you will be blocked. Please don't let it get that far. Seek the talk page. ] (]) 17:40, 18 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::{{AN3|d}} per above and reported editor's inactivity. ] (]) 22:46, 19 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
== ] reported by ] (Result: 48 hours) == | |||
:You have un-reverted only a ''very'' tiny portion of the flurry of prohibited partial reverts that you defiantly commenced making immediately after I warned you that you had already done 3 reverts. ] (]) 23:05, 27 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
'''Page:''' {{pagelinks|Conor Benn}} <br /> | |||
::What I reverted was one of your exact complaints. I have made several edits (listed on the talk page) over many days. You kept some and rejected others. And, yesterday I made more changes that I think you will be agreeable to. Since you keep some edits and reject others, why don't you respond on the as to what you feel should be reverted.--] (]) 23:32, 27 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
'''User being reported:''' {{userlinks|GiggaHigga127}} | |||
'''Previous version reverted to:''' – only welterweight in the infobox | |||
:::I have done so. ] (]) 13:00, 28 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
'''Diffs of the user's reverts:''' | |||
Unfortunately, IronAngelAlice's disruptive behavior is not confined to the ] article. Over on the ] article, ] complained in frustration that, "you two have completely ruined this article...." Alice's response was to accuse him of "bullying," which prompted ] (who shares Alice's pro-choice POV) and ] (who does not) to both express their agreement with Equazcion. Alice then accused Equazcion of "attempting to malign my character." ] (]) 13:44, 29 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
# – re-adding light middleweight and middleweight | |||
# – same | |||
# – same | |||
# – same | |||
# – same, now with PA | |||
'''Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning:''' | |||
:Unfortunately, your editing has not been constructive either. Both users seem aggravated by each other resulting in an edit war that leading to a 3RR violation. I think it is best to warn her and ask both of them to step aside a bit from editing the article. ] <small> (])</small> 14:16, 29 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
'''Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:''' ] | |||
::Unfortunately, Saranghae/мirаgeinred is miffed with me about . I thought I was being gentle with her, but I guess not gentle enough. :-( ] (]) 16:59, 29 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
'''Diff of ANEW notice posted to user's talk page:''' | |||
:::LOL You seriously made my day and I'm not even being sarcastic. ] <small> (])</small> 19:05, 29 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
<u>'''Comments:'''</u> <br /> | |||
:::Um, shouldn't ad hominem ] be frowned upon at Misplaced Pages? --] (]) 20:09, 29 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
User:GiggaHigga127 insists on adding the ] and ] divisions to Conor Benn's infobox. Our style guide at WikiProject Boxing, ], says to only include weight classes in which a boxer has ''notably'' competed, that being usually for regional/minor/world titles. In Benn's case, that division was ] for almost the entirety of his career, and he did indeed hold a regional title in that division. In 2023 he was given a lengthy ban from the sport, from which he recently returned in a pair of throwaway fights within the light middleweight limit, against non-notable opposition and with no titles at stake. Per the style guide, those throwaway fights are not important enough to warrant the inclusion of light middleweight in the infobox, at least until he begins competing there regularly. | |||
As far as middleweight goes, Benn has ''never competed anywhere close to that weight class''. He has a fight 'scheduled' to take place at middleweight, but until the bell rings to officially commence proceedings, ] and ] should apply, and again it should not be listed in the infobox until then. This same fight was 'scheduled' in 2023, only to be cancelled after Benn failed a drug test—something which happens in boxing all the time. In fact, at the Project we had ] regarding upcoming fights in record tables, so the same should apply in this instance. ] would also be a cop-out, because the whole point of MOS:BOXING was to ensure consistency across boxing articles. ] (]) 18:50, 18 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
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:It continues: , this time with me being called a "melt". I can't imagine what that is, but all the better if it's an insult for obvious reasons. Also, no responses at user talk page. ] (]) 00:06, 19 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::Predictably, now it's onto block evasion: . NOTHERE. ] (]) 15:41, 19 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:::Based on , it could be ] as well. ] (]) 21:18, 19 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::::Neither nor. I stand by the revision, but that's where any commonality ends. --] (]) 22:53, 19 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:::::Of course you stand by the revision. You show up less than 12 hours after Gigga gets blocked, and perform the exact same revert. Dodgy. ] (]) 19:17, 20 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
== ] reported by ] (Result: Blocked 24h) == | |||
IronAlice's reverts #1, #2 & #3 were full reverts done by clicking on "undo," over a period of about 4.5 hours: | |||
* 1st revert: 19:43, 25 February 2008 | |||
* 2nd revert: 21:46, 25 February 2008 | |||
* 3rd revert: 00:05, 26 February 2008 | |||
'''Page:''' {{pagelinks|Probability and statistics}} | |||
Her subsequent reverts were all partial reverts, but there were ''many'' of them. | |||
'''User being reported:''' {{userlinks|Logoshimpo}} | |||
Here's a chronological list of IronAngelAlice's edits/reverts which she did <u>after</u> her first three full reverts, but all within 24 hours (actually, within 7 hours!) of revert #1. Since these were all consecutive, they all count as one great big fourth revert. But they are all in flagrant & intentional violation of ], as all were done within one hour of her scornful reply to my warning on her talk page (telling her that she'd already done three reverts). | |||
'''Previous version reverted to:''' | |||
What's more, despite multiple appeals on the article talk page, and even a , she has declined to un-revert most of them. | |||
'''Diffs of the user's reverts:''' | |||
In the following list, the revert prefixed with "-" was subsequently self-un-reverted by Alice, and the revert prefixed with "x" was not un-reverted but was subsequently changed by Alice to a different wording. The reverts prefixed with "+" were not self-un-reverted at all, and are still in the article. | |||
Slow-motion edit-warring: original bold edit was , subsequent reversions are , , . | |||
'''Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:''' | |||
This is revert #4 (six hours after revert #1, and one minute after her scornful reply to my warning):<br> | |||
# | |||
Reverts: | |||
* - Reinserted POV-heavy accusation that, "Though they generally do not provide medical care, CPC's are made to look like medical clinics, not religious organizations." (self-reverted) | |||
* + Deleted heartlink.org ref | |||
* + Deleted "Some offer post-abortion counseling services, or refer clients to organizations which do so, such as Project Rachel" and ref to Project Rachel | |||
'''Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:''' | |||
:::An explanation was given in the talk page.--] (]) 20:14, 3 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
# {{diff2|1270081668|20:46, 17 January 2025 (UTC)}} "/* WP:SELFREF */ Reply" | |||
<u>'''Comments:'''</u> | |||
01:47, 26 February 2008 IronAngelAlice diff: <br> | |||
The last revert follows talk-page discussion in which two users (including me) have rejected their arguments and no one has agreed with them. Here was their addition to the talk-page before their most recent revert: . ] (]) 17:07, 19 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
Reverts: | |||
:{{AN3|b|24 hours}} ] (]) 22:49, 19 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
* x Reinserted "Fundamentalist" appellation (later changed to "conservative Evangelical... and Roman Catholic") | |||
== ] reported by ] (Result: Blocked 36 hours, reporter blocked 24, and page protected for a week) == | |||
:::We came to a consensus about this days ago, and the name was thus changed to "Conservative Christian".--] (]) 20:14, 3 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
'''Page:''' {{pagelinks|Nachos}} | |||
* + Deleted www.care-net.org/aboutus/ ref | |||
'''User being reported:''' {{userlinks|Rauzoi}} | |||
'''Previous version reverted to:''' | |||
01:47, 26 February 2008 IronAngelAlice diff: <br> | |||
Not a revert (inserted "and Roman Catholic" appellation) | |||
'''Diffs of the user's reverts:''' | |||
# {{diff2|1270462611|17:20, 19 January 2025 (UTC)}} "original version https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Nachos&diff=prev&oldid=1187016754 vandalized by Crasias" | |||
# {{diff|oldid=1270457231|diff=1270459938|label=Consecutive edits made from 17:00, 19 January 2025 (UTC) to 17:04, 19 January 2025 (UTC)}} | |||
## {{diff2|1270459303|17:00, 19 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Undid revision ] by ] (])" | |||
## {{diff2|1270459938|17:04, 19 January 2025 (UTC)}} "" | |||
# {{diff2|1270456533|16:42, 19 January 2025 (UTC)}} "original version https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Nachos&diff=prev&oldid=1187016754" | |||
# {{diff|oldid=1270368949|diff=1270375910|label=Consecutive edits made from 06:41, 19 January 2025 (UTC) to 06:43, 19 January 2025 (UTC)}} | |||
## {{diff2|1270375677|06:41, 19 January 2025 (UTC)}} "original version https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Nachos&diff=prev&oldid=1187016754" | |||
## {{diff2|1270375910|06:43, 19 January 2025 (UTC)}} "" | |||
# {{diff|oldid=1270037609|diff=1270355298|label=Consecutive edits made from 04:00, 19 January 2025 (UTC) to 04:02, 19 January 2025 (UTC)}} | |||
## {{diff2|1270354944|04:00, 19 January 2025 (UTC)}} "" | |||
## {{diff2|1270355115|04:01, 19 January 2025 (UTC)}} "" | |||
## {{diff2|1270355298|04:02, 19 January 2025 (UTC)}} "/* Variations */" | |||
'''Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:''' | |||
01:53, 26 February 2008 IronAngelAlice diff: <br> | |||
# {{diff2|1270460344|17:06, 19 January 2025 (UTC)}} "" | |||
Reverts: | |||
* + Deleted http://www.cpclink.com/whatisacpc.php reference | |||
* + Again changed section heading from "Services" to "CPC Activities" | |||
* + Again deleted bullet list of services and replaced with POV-biased paragraph | |||
* + Deleted http://www.lifetimefoundation.org/adoption_scholarship.html ref | |||
* + Deleted http://www.nurturingnetwork.org ref | |||
'''Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:''' | |||
01:58, 26 February 2008 IronAngelAlice diff: <br> | |||
Revert: | |||
* + Deleted entire Psalm 139 Project section, and Baptist Press article ref | |||
<u>'''Comments:'''</u> | |||
:::An explanation was given in the talk page.--] (]) 20:14, 3 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
Frequently removing and replacing sourced content that identifies Nachos as "Tex-Mex" rather than "Mexican" ] (]) 17:32, 19 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:{{AN3|bb}} Rauzoi for 36 hours and Crasias for 24 (one less revert over the limit). ] does not cover this. Furthermore ... | |||
:{{AN3|p}} Extended-confirmed for a week since, as both editors are autoconfirmed only, they will not be able to resume hostilities once the blocks expire. The talk page hasn't been used in months. ] (]) 23:04, 19 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
== ] reported by ] (Result: Blocked one week) == | |||
01:58, 26 February 2008 IronAngelAlice diff: <br> | |||
Revert: | |||
* + Deleted entire Medical Services section, including | |||
:: http://www.nifla.org/faqs.asp ref, and | |||
:: http://www.epigee.org/pregnancy/centers.html ref, and | |||
:: http://www.wpclinic.org/services/referrals/ ref, and | |||
:: http://www.cookevillecpc.org/ultrasound.php ref | |||
'''Page:''' {{pagelinks|Sex differences in intelligence}} <br /> | |||
:::An explanation was given in the talk page. A consensus with outside editors was built not to include these at this time.--] (]) 20:14, 3 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
'''User being reported:''' {{userlinks|BoneCrushingDog}} | |||
02:05, 26 February 2008 IronAngelAlice diff: <br> | |||
Reverts: | |||
* + Deleted entire Policies section, including | |||
:: http://birthright.reachlocal.net/htmpages/philo.htm ref, and | |||
:: http://www.heartbeatinternational.org/commitment.htm ref, and | |||
:: http://opa.osophs.dhhs.gov/titlex/statutory%20rape_state%20laws_lewin.pdf ref | |||
* + Reinserted POV-heavy "Disinformation" section title | |||
'''Previous version reverted to:''' | |||
:::::Per this discussion it has been changed to "Henry Waxman report on disinformation." There was no prior discussion about this on talk page.--] (]) 20:14, 3 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
'''Diffs of the user's reverts:''' | |||
* + Reinserted expanded version of the POV-heavy Waxman accusation that most CPCs provide "false or misleading information about the health risks of an abortion" | |||
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* + Deleted the condensed/compromise version of Waxman's accusations | |||
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'''Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning:''' | |||
:::::There was no consensus, unfortunately.---- | |||
'''Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:''' | |||
02:08, 26 February 2008 IronAngelAlice diff: <br> | |||
Revert: | |||
* + Deleted NRLC rebuttal to Waxman's attack on CPCs, and deleted the accompanying http://www.nrlc.org/news_and_views/April07/nv040207part1.html ref | |||
'''Diff of ANEW notice posted to user's talk page:''' | |||
::::::This was discussed on the talk page, and the link was added to the external links section.--] (]) 20:14, 3 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
<u>'''Comments:'''</u> Note that these edits fall squarely under ], and the last (6th) revert was done ''after'' they were . ] (]) 23:23, 19 January 2025 (UTC)<br /> | |||
02:09, 26 February 2008 IronAngelAlice diff: <br> | |||
*{{AN3|b|one week}}. ] (]) 00:33, 20 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
Revert: | |||
* + Again renamed "criticism" section to "Legal and legislative actions against CPC's" | |||
== ] reported by ] (Result: Page already semi-protected) == | |||
'''Page:''' {{pagelinks|Exclusive economic zone}} | |||
02:10, 26 February 2008 IronAngelAlice diff: <br> | |||
Not a revert, but introduced an inaccuracy: inserted new subsection headings, including one which incorrectly called "Choose Life" license plates "State Funding," when actually they are a form of donation which is also a revenue source for State gov't | |||
'''User being reported:''' {{userlinks|177.84.58.25}} | |||
:::I agree, and per consensus, it was agreed this would be "donations" rather than "state funding."--] (]) 20:14, 3 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
'''Previous version reverted to:''' | |||
02:12, 26 February 2008 IronAngelAlice diff: <br> | |||
I don't think this was a revert, but inserted POV-biased misleading "United States Government Information" section header for Waxman report | |||
'''Diffs of the user's reverts:''' | |||
# {{diff|oldid=1270539434|diff=1270541014|label=Consecutive edits made from 01:13, 20 January 2025 (UTC) to 01:19, 20 January 2025 (UTC)}} | |||
## {{diff2|1270540192|01:13, 20 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Eu não sou essa pessoa que você está a citar eu comecei a alterar essa página essa e a minhas primeiras vezes , eu estou alteração está página porque eu gosto de ver a área da ZEE de cada país um abaixo do outro ." | |||
## {{diff2|1270540659|01:17, 20 January 2025 (UTC)}} "I started changing this page today I'm just making changes to this page because I like to see the Zee area of each country in the world, please don't make changes" | |||
## {{diff2|1270541014|01:19, 20 January 2025 (UTC)}} "I started changing this page today I'm just making changes to this page because I like to see the Zee area of each country in the world, please don't make changes" | |||
# {{diff2|1270537566|00:56, 20 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Eu não vou mais fazer alteração se deixar o Rankings by area porque eu gosto de Rankings by area" | |||
# {{diff2|1270536155|00:46, 20 January 2025 (UTC)}} "ZEE com alteração perfeita" | |||
# {{diff2|1270532750|00:21, 20 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Alterei o tamanho da zona exclusiva econômica do brasil porque a ZEE aumentou em 2024" | |||
# {{diff2|1270527449|23:49, 19 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Antes essa página sofreu alteração incorreta, com eu fiz uma alteração mais correta ." | |||
'''Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:''' | |||
02:19, 26 February 2008 IronAngelAlice diff: <br> | |||
# {{diff2|1270537849|00:58, 20 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Warning: Three-revert rule." | |||
Revert: | |||
* + Reinserted inaccurate "fundamentalist" appellation in another place, this time to describe the churches that support CPCs. | |||
But also corrected an inaccuracy in the article, by deleting the phrase, "or sometimes the government." | |||
'''Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:''' | |||
:::Per our consensus, "fundamentalist" was changed to "conservative" with lengthy discussion on talk page.--] (]) 20:14, 3 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
02:25, 26 February 2008 IronAngelAlice diff: <br> | |||
Not a revert (removed a pair of parenthesis) | |||
We discover this week that random numbers were changed a while ago. We changed them back and sort of started a discussion ] | |||
<u>'''Comments:'''</u> | |||
We are not sure what they are doing...... Think they're mistaken continental shelf for EEZ.<span style="display:inline-flex;rotate:-15deg;color:darkblue">''']'''</span><span style="display:inline-flex;rotate:15deg;color:darkblue">]</span> 01:27, 20 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
If I counted correctly that's 18 different consecutive reverts, all done within 7 hours of revert #1, and all done immediately after Alice's scornful reply to my warning that she had already done three reverts. Despite the self-reverting that she has claimed here, 16 of the 18 reverts are still intact, still in the article. | |||
*{{AN3|p}} (already semi-protected) ] (]) 06:38, 20 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
== ] reported by ] (Result: Already blocked) == | |||
In those 18 reverts, she deleted 14 of the 34 references in the article. She has restored none of them. | |||
'''Page:''' {{pagelinks|Harti}} | |||
However, she eventually added this link to , her "reliable source" to justify her repeatedly reinserted POV-heavy accusation that, "The counseling services offered by crisis pregnancy centers use psychological pressure to discourage women from aborting."<br> | |||
03:09, 27 February 2008 IronAngelAlice diff: | |||
'''User being reported:''' {{userlinks|2A01:4B00:D10A:6700:C8CB:A681:5BFA:C14D}} | |||
:::That link is not contained in the article. It was discussed on the talk page, but is not included in the article. I, therefore, removed that sentence.--] (]) 20:14, 3 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
'''Previous version reverted to:''' | |||
Since Alice is unwilling to self-revert, I'll do it. I'll keep the good stuff, such as the correction of an inaccuracy which she made in her 02:19, 26 February 2008 edit. And, of course, I'll explain it , first. ] (]) 08:19, 3 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
'''Diffs of the user's reverts:''' | |||
:I've done so. ] (]) 11:13, 3 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
# {{diff2|1270551103|02:28, 20 January 2025 (UTC)}} "/* Enterprisers */" | |||
# {{diff2|1270550937|02:27, 20 January 2025 (UTC)}} "/* Royalty */" | |||
# {{diff2|1270550061|02:21, 20 January 2025 (UTC)}} "/* Enterprisers */" | |||
# {{diff|oldid=1270548846|diff=1270549881|label=Consecutive edits made from 02:16, 20 January 2025 (UTC) to 02:19, 20 January 2025 (UTC)}} | |||
## {{diff2|1270549319|02:16, 20 January 2025 (UTC)}} "/* Royalty */" | |||
## {{diff2|1270549881|02:19, 20 January 2025 (UTC)}} "/* Politicians */" | |||
'''Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:''' | |||
::NCdave, perhaps both of our time would be better spent going to content by asking other editors who have been involved with the page to weigh in, or by requesting mediation. Clearly we have differing visions of what the article should include, as well as differing ideas on how to build consensus.--] (]) 19:59, 3 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
# {{diff2|1270550935|02:27, 20 January 2025 (UTC)}} "/* Edit Warring */ new section" | |||
'''Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:''' | |||
== ] reported by ] (Result: warned) == | |||
*] violation on | |||
{{Article|Jonathan Vilma}}. {{3RRV|74.237.114.108}}: Time reported: 06:31, 29 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
<u>'''Comments:'''</u> | |||
*Previous version reverted to: <!-- This is MANDATORY. --> | |||
and again , and | |||
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*{{AN3|ab}} (/64 blocked for 1 week by {{u|Daniel Case}}) ] (]) 06:41, 20 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
and/or the actual words (in bold) that are being reverted or reverted to.--> | |||
== ] reported by ] (Result: Blocked 72 hours) == | |||
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'''Page:''' {{pagelinks|Tübingen School}} | |||
*1st revert: | |||
*2nd revert: | |||
*3rd revert: | |||
'''User being reported:''' {{userlinks|Xpander1}} | |||
*Diff of 3RR warning: | |||
'''Previous version reverted to:''' | |||
*{{AN3|w}} The user appeared to stop after your warning. Feel free to re-open should he continue. --]<small><sup>\ ] /</sup></small> 17:40, 29 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
'''Diffs of the user's reverts:''' | |||
== ] reported by ] (Result: warned ) == | |||
# {{diff2|1270585353|07:15, 20 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Restored revision 974048061 by ] (]): Self-reverting as per ]" | |||
# {{diff2|1270579742|06:20, 20 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Restored revision 1270517034 by ] (]): Please see the redirect page for adding new edits" | |||
# {{diff2|1270517034|22:40, 19 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Restored revision 1270516481 by ] (]): Please avoid making an edit war, I asked you nicely" | |||
# {{diff2|1270516481|22:37, 19 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Undid revision ] by ] (])" | |||
# {{diff2|1270515748|22:32, 19 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Restored revision 1270489731 by ] (]): Please add the new sources to ] Best." | |||
# {{diff|oldid=1270482917|diff=1270489731|label=Consecutive edits made from 19:26, 19 January 2025 (UTC) to 19:58, 19 January 2025 (UTC)}} | |||
## {{diff2|1270484281|19:26, 19 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Undid revision ] by ] (]) other editors simply continued my original work, which I respect" | |||
## {{diff2|1270489731|19:58, 19 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Redirecting page the newly created page" | |||
# {{diff2|1270482597|19:17, 19 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Restored revision 974048061 by ] (]): Reverting my own edit to contest page creation attribution" | |||
# {{diff2|1270267829|19:07, 18 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Undid revision ] by ] (])" | |||
'''Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:''' | |||
* ] violation on | |||
# {{diff2|1270589185|07:46, 20 January 2025 (UTC)}} "/* January 2025 */ new section" | |||
{{Article|Tymbark}}. {{3RRV|Jotel}}: Time reported: 16:32, 29 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
'''Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:''' | |||
*Previous version reverted to: <!-- This is MANDATORY. --> | |||
# {{diff2|1270588908|07:44, 20 January 2025 (UTC)}} "/* Page creator attribution */ Reply" | |||
# {{diff2|1270341854|02:27, 19 January 2025 (UTC) on Misplaced Pages:Requested moves/Technical requests}} "/* Uncontroversial technical requests */ Decline, this one is more of a histmerge request which would also be declined from ] - I'm happy to explain further on a talk page" | |||
<u>'''Comments:'''</u> | |||
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and/or the actual words (in bold) that are being reverted or reverted to.--> | |||
Extremely aggressive edit warring. Xpander1 had expanded a redirect to a page with no issue but decided it would be better to just create a page, hence a discussion at ]. Editor decided to "redact contribution in protest", initially blanking then resorting to redirecting. ] would assist in reverting these changes with Xpander1 reacting negatively, violating 3RR to get it erased. Editor had created redirects such as ] and ], with ] being where he did a cut-and-paste move from original article. Has no intention to resolve dispute any time soon. <span style="font-family: Georgia; background-color: coral; padding: 2px 3px 1px 3px;">] ]</span> 08:26, 20 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
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:All I did was self-reverting, the article had no significant history before my contribution. What you are describing as "copy-pasting", is me putting my own creation in a new page. As I have explained in many places, in the ], and elsewhere. My rationale is very simple, Misplaced Pages must distinguish between '''valid-article-creators''' and '''redirect-page-creators'''. I currently count as the latter. Which don't think is fair. ] (]) 08:49, 20 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
*1st revert: | |||
::As for now, the page is currently being attributed to User:Wetman on ] and on the . ] (]) 09:12, 20 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
*2nd revert: | |||
*3rd revert: | |||
*4th revert: | |||
*5th revert: | |||
*6th revert: | |||
*7th revert: | |||
The Teahouse discussion can be found (for now) at ]. Please see also ] and ]. ] (]) 09:09, 20 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:{{AN3|b|72 hours}} , I am mystified—no, make it ''stunned''—that Xpander thinks this edit-warring is justified. In what sense are they not being attributed as the page creator sufficiently for their ego? Do they mean that the ''page creation log'' isn't saying that they are? Uh, that's something the ''software'' does, that by design no one has control over. {{u|Wetman}} is going to get credit for creating the ''page'', yes, as the empty redirect it was apparently quite happy to have been for 15 years. As noted, no editor familiar with how our processes work would doubt that Xpander, in practical terms, created the ''article'' by translating the dewiki article, regardless of what the logs say.<p>Xpander's repeated reversion to the redirect is, frankly, childish behavior that smacks of ]. I strongly remind them ].<p>I also reject their argument that ] shields them as they were merely always "reverting their own edit". Technically that might be arguable, but it is ''inarguable'' that, especially given their statement that ], they did so in a manner calculated to cause ] and interfere with the work of others. To allow this to pass on that basis would be opening up a whole new way to ]. ] (]) 20:17, 20 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::'''Addendum''': I also commend ] to {{u|Xpander1}}'s attention. ] (]) 22:23, 20 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
== ] reported by ] (Result: Blocked 31 hours) == | |||
*{{AN3|w}} --]<small><sup>\ ] /</sup></small> 17:26, 29 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
**Seven reverts as for now. Should be blocked immediately. - ] (]) 17:30, 29 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
**:Had the user demonstrably known about ], I would be inclined to do exactly that; and, should the user revert after the warning I gave, please update this accordingly. --]<small><sup>\ ] /</sup></small> 17:39, 29 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
'''Page:''' {{pagelinks|Oriel High School}} | |||
== ] reported by ] (Result: warned ) == | |||
'''User being reported:''' {{userlinks|92.238.20.255}} | |||
*] violation on | |||
{{Article|Louis XIV of France}}. {{3RRV|Lil' mouse 3}}: Time reported: 17:06, 29 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
'''Previous version reverted to:''' | |||
*Previous version reverted to: <!-- This is MANDATORY. --> | |||
'''Diffs of the user's reverts:''' | |||
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# {{diff2|1270686162|19:20, 20 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Updated content" | |||
and/or the actual words (in bold) that are being reverted or reverted to.--> | |||
# {{diff2|1270685824|19:18, 20 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Updated content" | |||
# {{diff2|1270685483|19:16, 20 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Deleted content" | |||
# {{diff2|1270684934|19:12, 20 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Deleted content" | |||
# {{diff2|1270683674|19:04, 20 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Deleted content" | |||
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'''Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:''' | |||
*1st revert: | |||
*2nd revert: | |||
*3rd revert: | |||
*4th revert: | |||
*Diff of 3RR warning: | |||
<u>'''Comments''': This IP is trying to censor information in that article --] (]) 19:26, 20 January 2025 (UTC)</u> | |||
Lil Mouse has reverted this section four times to include material the other editors have deemed tangential or irrelevant. ] 17:06, 29 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
*{{AN3|b|31 hours}} ] (]) 19:36, 20 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
*:I undid that block and restored it because simply removing the block isn't really an option in response to actually disruptive editing, but the IP editor's behavior wasn't the main issue in this edit war. I'll send warnings around to people who should know better. ] (]) 19:43, 20 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
== ] reported by ] (Result: Stale) == | |||
:I did not keep count of how many times I reverted, being very upset by what I perceive to be POV-pushing by likeminded editors, in ], which they did not bother to exactly quote on the Talk page, as requested in my edit summaries and . Also, as mitigating circumstance, Coemgenus should have given me the mandatory warning at my 3rd revert to remind me of the 3RR: he did not do so. Without this warning, I can say that he acted in bad faith in his reporting, waiting for me to lose track of my number of edits so that he can get me blocked. Please, do not condone such sneaky behavior, especially in somebody who acts . ] (]) 17:18, 29 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
::Either way, it does appear to me that you have violated the 3RR. Inspite of whether you believe your opinion is correct or not, Misplaced Pages content can not be damaged in this disruptive manner. ]] 17:24, 29 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
:::But I completely lost track of the count and, most importantly, he didn't give me the mandatory 3rd revert warning. Doesn't his lack of fair warning cast doubts over his motives and invalidate his request? I have proved above he doesn't care about WP rules, all he cares is to push his POV by all means necessary. ] (]) 17:27, 29 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
::::If you know when a warning is required, you should know when the count is sufficient enough to violate the 3RR. ]] 17:29, 29 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
'''Page:''' ] <br /> | |||
*{{AN3|w}} – first and foremost, there is no mandatory warning, and regardless of the number of edits you make, you can still be blocked for ] if you repeatedly revert others' edits. Ideally, you can simply follow the ], which is a totally informal, simplified way of never having to count your reverts again. :) In any case, consider this your only warning, and please try to discuss changes on talk pages and/or seek ]. --]<small><sup>\ ] /</sup></small> 17:33, 29 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
'''User being reported:''' {{userlinks|Kelvintjy}} | |||
'''Previous version reverted to:''' https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Political_dissidence_in_the_Empire_of_Japan&oldid=1217491179 | |||
:Thank you very much for not blocking me. I will be much more mindful of these rules from now on. Thank you very much! ] (]) 18:00, 29 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
'''Diffs of the user's reverts:''' | |||
== ] reported by ] (Result:Warned) == | |||
# https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Political_dissidence_in_the_Empire_of_Japan&oldid=1227039793 | |||
# https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Political_dissidence_in_the_Empire_of_Japan&oldid=1229865081 | |||
# https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Political_dissidence_in_the_Empire_of_Japan&oldid=1230019964 | |||
# https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Political_dissidence_in_the_Empire_of_Japan&oldid=1230184562 | |||
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{{Article|Superman music}}. {{3RRV|Baseball Bugs}}: Time reported: 19:21, 29 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
*Previous version reverted to: <!-- This is MANDATORY. --> | |||
'''Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: See July 24th 2024 ''' https://en.wikipedia.org/User_talk:Kelvintjy | |||
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'''Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:''' See "Biased" https://en.wikipedia.org/Talk:Political_dissidence_in_the_Empire_of_Japan | |||
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'''Diff of ANEW notice posted to user's talk page:''' https://en.wikipedia.org/User_talk:Kelvintjy | |||
This user has decided that another editor is using Misplaced Pages for self-promotion, and has wholesale deleted all contributions from that user on the article in question. While there may be an element of truth to that, many of the editors contributions are factual, cited, and about a notable new release. Editor is adamant that his view must be accepted, even though multiple editors have asked that he stop reverting. ] (]) 19:21, 29 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
<u>'''Comments:'''</u> <br /> | |||
:It is a technical violation of the three revert rule, but Baseball Bugs does have a legitimate point to pursue in regarding the expansion of the page as potentially a conflict of interest. In view of the fact that discussion is ongoing, I do not think the best interests of the encyclopaedia are served by blocking. I also note that the report here immediately followed the warning, and that Baseball Bugs did not revert following the warning. I have left him a note to explain the situation. ] (]) 21:56, 29 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
Hello | |||
== ] reported by ] (Result:96 hours) == | |||
the user Kelvintjy has been engaged in another war last summer and was banned from the ] page. He's been pursuing an edit war on the ] page too without daring give explanations on the talk page though he was invited to do it many times. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 19:58, 20 January 2025 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
*{{AN3|s}} ] (]) 20:03, 20 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
*:@] you blocked this user from the page ] in Aug. 2024 for the same reasons. ] (]) 12:54, 21 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
*:You also block Raoul but later unblocked him after he made his appeal. ] (]) 00:37, 22 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
I don't understand the user always keep targeting me. I am more of a silence contributor. I had seen how the complainant had argue with other contributor in other talk page and after a while the complainant stay silent and not touching certain topic and instead keep making edit on articles related to ] or ]. Now, he is making a lot of edit on ]. ] (]) 05:11, 21 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
*] violation on | |||
{{Article|Code Lyoko 2}}. {{3RRV|Karaku}}: Time reported: 21:08, 29 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
== ] reported by ] (Result: 1RR imposed on article) == | |||
*Previous version reverted to: | |||
**The tags and cats may differ slightly, but the content never changes. | |||
'''Page:''' {{pagelinks|Elon Musk}} | |||
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'''User being reported:''' {{userlinks|Ergzay}} | |||
This user is continually reverting to his preferred version with uncivil edit summaries, attempting to use the {{tl|in use}} template to excuse his behavior. — ] (] | ]) 21:08, 29 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
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I was going to come here and report the same user: | |||
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'''Diffs of the user's reverts:''' | |||
— ] ] 21:27, 29 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
# {{diff2|1270885082|18:31, 21 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Undid revision ] by ] (]) Reverting for user specifying basically ] as their reasoning" | |||
# {{diff2|1270881666|18:12, 21 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Undid revision ] by ] (]) I believe you have reverted this edit in error so I am adding it back. Rando tweet from a random organization? The Anti-defamation league is cited elsewhere in this article and this tweet was in the article previously. I simply copy pasted it from a previous edit. ADL is a trusted source in the perennial source list ]" | |||
# {{diff2|1270878417|17:52, 21 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Undid revision ] by ] (]) Removing misinformation" | |||
# {{diff2|1270875037|17:30, 21 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Undid revision ] by ] (]) Discussion ongoing and it's incorrect as well" | |||
# {{diff2|1270724963|23:07, 20 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Revert, this is not the purpose of the short description" | |||
# {{diff2|1270718517|22:28, 20 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Undid revision ] by ] (]) Elon is not a multinational" | |||
'''Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:''' | |||
:Clear cut case. Due to previous edit-warring, and associated incivility on this case, I've blocked for 96 hours. ] (]) 22:04, 29 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
# {{diff2|1270879182|17:57, 21 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Warning: Three-revert rule on ]." {{small|(edit: corrected diff)}} | |||
'''Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:''' | |||
== ] reported by ] (Result: 24 hours) == | |||
# {{diff2|1270885380|18:32, 21 January 2025 (UTC)}} "stop edit warring now or it all goes to ANI" {{small|(edit: added diff, fix date)}} | |||
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{{Article|FreeLife}}. {{3RRV|Freelifelegal}}: Time reported: 18:19, 1 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
<u>'''Comments:'''</u> | |||
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Breach of ] {{small|(added comment after 18:49, 21 January 2025 (UTC) comment added below)}}. ] (]) 18:52, 21 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
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] seems to be making a mistake here as several of those edits were of different content. You can't just list every single revert and call it edit warring. And the brief edit warring that did happen stopped as I realized I was reverting the wrong thing. https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Talk:Elon_Musk&diff=prev&oldid=1270879523 ] (]) 18:49, 21 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
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:Read the bright read box at ] (. ] (]) 18:54, 21 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
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::@] So let me get this straight, you're saying making unrelated reverts of unrelated content in a 24 hour period hits 3RR? You sure you got that right? As people violate that one all the darn time. Never bothered to report people as it's completely innocent. If you're heavily involved on a page and reverting stuff you'll hit that quick and fast for a rapidly updated page. ] (]) 18:59, 21 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
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:::]: {{tq|An editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page—whether involving the same or different material—within a 24-hour period.}} – ] (]) 19:01, 21 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
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::::Well TIL on that one as that's the first time I've ever heard of that use case and I've been on this site for 15+ years. 3RR in every use I've ever seen it is about back and forth reverting of the _same content_ within a short period of time. It's a severe rule break where people are clearly edit warring the same content back and forth. Reverting unrelated content on the page (edits that are often clearly vandalism-like edits, like the first two listed) would never violate 3RR in my experience. ] (]) 19:04, 21 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
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::::I'd honestly love an explanation on that rule as I can't figure out why it makes sense. You don't want to limit people's ability to fix vandalism on a fast moving page. ] (]) 19:08, 21 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:::::]: {{tq|There are certain exemptions to the three-revert rule, such as reverting vandalism or clear violations of the policy on biographies of living persons}}. – ] (]) 19:11, 21 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::::::No I mean even in the wider sense. Like why does it make sense to limit the ability to revert unrelated content on the same page? I can't figure out why that would make sense. The 3RR page doesn't explain that. ] (]) 19:13, 21 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:::::Vandalism is an exemption. But vandalism has a narrow definition. ] (]) 19:12, 21 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:Should be added, that I was in the process of reverting my own edit after the above linked comment, but someone reverted it before I could get to it. | |||
:The 18:12 edit was me undoing what was presumed to be a mistaken change by EF5 that I explained in my edit comment as they seemed to think that "some random twitter account" was being used as a source. That revert was not reverted. The 18:31 edit was a revert of an "i don't like it" edit that someone else made, it was not a revert of a revert of my own change. ] (]) 19:17, 21 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::Frankly, I thought your characterization of IDONTLIKEIT in your edit summary was improper and was thinking of reverting you, but didn't want to be a part of what I thought was your edit war. ] (]) 19:26, 21 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:::We can agree to disagree, but the reasons I called it IDONTLIKEIT was because the person who was reverted described the ADL, who is on the perennial sources list as being reliable, in their first edit description with the wording followed by after another editor restored the content with a different source, which is the edit I reverted. ] (]) 19:34, 21 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::::Looks like you have seven reverts in two days in a CTOP. I've even seen admins ask someone else to revert instead of violating a revert rule themselves. ] (]) 19:48, 21 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:::::What is a CTOP? ] (]) 19:58, 21 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::::::A CTOP is a ]. ] (]) 19:59, 21 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:In Ergzay's defense some of these reverts do seem to be covered under BLP, but many do not and I am concerned about the battleground attitude that Ergzay is taking. The edit summaries "Discussion ongoing and it's incorrect as well" and "Removing misinformation" also seems to be getting into righting great wrongs territory as the coverage happened whether you agree with the analysis or not. ] (]) 20:05, 21 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::@] Thanks but at this point things are too heated and people are so confident Musk is some kind of Nazi now nothing I say is gonna change anything. It's not worth the mental exhaustion I spent over the last few hours. So I probably won't be touching the page or talk page again for several days at least unless I get pinged. The truth will come out eventually, just like the last several tempest in a teapots on the Elon Musk page that eventually got corrected. Misplaced Pages is gonna be Misplaced Pages. ] (]) 21:48, 21 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:::{{tq|Misplaced Pages is gonna be Misplaced Pages.}} If your argument is that Misplaced Pages is wrong about things and you have to come in periodically to fix it; that’s not an argument that works very well on an administrative noticeboard -- and certainly not a good argument here at AN3. ] (]) 22:27, 21 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:::I wouldn't worry all too much about it, 1rr for the article will slow things down and is a positive outcome all things considered. ] (]) 03:26, 22 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
: Based on the comment in response to the notification for this discussion, {{tq|"I've been brought to ANI many times in the past. Never been punished for it"}}, I was quite surprised to see that the editor didn't acquire an understanding of 3RR when in 2020. That's sometime ago granted, but additionally a lack of awareness of CTOP, when there is an edit notice at Musk's page regarding BLP policy, is highly suggestive of ]. This in addition to the 3RR warning that was ignored, followed by continuing to revert other editors, and eventually arguing that it must be because I am wrong. If there is an essay based on "Everyone else must be wrong because I'm always right" I'd very much like to read it. As for this report, I primarily wanted to nip the edit war in the bud which appears to have worked for now, given the talk page warning failed to achieve anything. I otherwise remain concerned about the general ] based indicators; disruptive editing, battleground attitude, and lack of willingness to collaborate with other editors in a civil manner. ] (]) 23:55, 21 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:: I have decided, under CTOPS and mindful of the current situation regarding the article subject, a situation that I think we can agree is unlikely to change anytime soon and is just going to attract more contentious editing, that the best resolution here, given that ''some'' of Ergzay's reverts are concededly justified on BLP grounds and that he genuinely seems ignorant of the provision in 3RR that covers ''all'' edits (a provision that, since he still wants to know, is in response to certain battleground editors in the past who would keep reverting different material within the same 24 hours so as to comply with the ''letter'', but not the ''spirit'', of 3RR (In other words, another case of ])) is to put the article under 1RR. It will be duly logged at CTOPS. ] (]) 00:02, 22 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:::We are likely to see Ergzay at ANI at some point. But as I was thinking of asking for 1RR early today; I'm fine with that decision. ] (]) 00:25, 22 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:::Good decision. I otherwise think a final warning for edit warring is appropriate, given the 3RR violation even excluding BLPREMOVE reverts (first 4 diffs to be specific). There's nothing else to drag out here given Ergzay intends to take a step back from the Musk article, and per above, there is always the ANI route for any future incidents. ] (]) 00:40, 22 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::@] My statement that you quoted there is because I'm a divisive person and people often don't like how I act on Misplaced Pages and the edits I make. People have dragged me to this place several times in the past over the years and I've always found it reasonably fair against people who are emotionally involved against dragging me down. That is why I said what I did. And as to the previous warning that you claim was me "not getting it", that was 3 reverts of the same material, and with a name 3RR the association is automatic. ] (]) 09:16, 22 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
== ] reported by ] (Result: ) == | |||
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'''Page:''' {{pagelinks|Paul Cézanne}} | |||
The edits by this user have been undone by multiple parties due to ]. While some of the users edits may be valid, others appear to be nothing other than advertising/marketing material. The user has attempted to start a discussions on the talk page requesting changes but when they were not immediately forthcoming the user began edit warring and stated at one point "I can make this change back to a balanced entry all day." The user has been warned about ] and ], and has had ] brought up to them. After the 3rr warning, they were also directed towards using ] or ] to address their issues with the article, but they chose to make a fourth revert shortly after that rather than use provided alternate tools to engage in discussion. The user claims to be correcting errors, and to have received approval to make them via an email from Jimbo Wales (see article's talk page). - ] <small>(] • ])</small> - 18:19, 1 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
'''User being reported:''' {{userlinks|203.115.14.139}} | |||
'''Decision:''' Blocked for 24 hours. ] (]) 23:57, 1 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
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== ] reported by ] (Result: Article semi-protected) == | |||
'''Diffs of the user's reverts:''' | |||
{{Article|Akrotiri and Dhekelia}}. {{3RRV|Rockybiggs}}: Time reported: 19:34, 1 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
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# {{diff2|1271008376|06:50, 22 January 2025 (UTC)}} "/* Three revert rule */ new section" | |||
# {{diff2|1271010383|07:01, 22 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Notifying about edit warring noticeboard discussion." | |||
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This stubborn British editor with an aversion to the Cypriot government is repeatedly deleting a sourced statement regarding the new Cypriot president's stance on this territory on the grounds that it is "Greek POV". ] (]) 19:34, 1 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
:Although the reported user has reverted a large number of times over the past couple of days they have not reverted since being warned. The IP who left this report presumably knew about the 3RR policy, as they left the warning. Although this IP has not reverted more than three times, it and very similar IPs have been engaged in edit warring with the reported user, I have therefore semi-protected the article. ] (]) 23:45, 1 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
::Can you please revert to the last version, this sourced statement is clearly not "Greek POV" as Rockybiggs unreasonably asserts. --] (]) 00:11, 2 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
:::Sorry but it would be ]. If you feel that changes are required to the article, please discuss them on its ]. ] (]) 00:26, 2 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
::::But Rockybiggs is being totally unreasonable, he describes any reference to the Cypriot government position as "Greek POV". --] (]) 00:30, 2 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
As i have insisted on from the start there was a discussion on this matter on the talk page, and the General Concensus was not to have these comments mentioned. Any further agruements should be addressed on the talk page] (]) 10:57, 2 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
== ] reported by ] (Result: 72 hours) == | |||
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{{Article|Trent Green}}. {{3RRV|Chrisjnelson}}: Time reported: 22:39, 1 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
This isn't your "traditional" report here. I am coming here as directed from ] about a possible arbitration ruling violation. ] suggests that ArbCom violations in regards to a specific amount of reverts be reported here in hopes of a quicker response. | |||
Back in September, there was an ] between {{user|Chrisjnelson}} and ] (now indefinitely blocked for unrelated crime). The final decision of that case was that Chrisjnelson be held to, in essence, a "1RR" rule, where he may not make more than one revert on a page in a 24-hour span.<span class="plainlinks"></span> The restriction has a six-month range before termination, which would be March 26. | |||
Yesterday, ], Chrisjnelson appears to have reverted another user, {{user|Pinkkeith}}, two times (<span class="plainlinks"></span>, <span class="plainlinks"></span>), as well as calling the edits vandalism (which I don't think they were). '']'' <small>(])</small> 22:39, 1 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
:Has been blocked for 72 hours by ]. ] (]) 23:54, 1 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
== ] reported by ] (Result:No block) == | |||
{{Article|NEWBORN}} {{3RRV|Betimsa}} | |||
#1 ] | |||
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Attempts at discussion ] ] have produced no results and his/her reverting continues. ] (]) 01:53, 2 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
*No official warning given. This user is clearly unaware of Misplaced Pages rules and regs and it's quite unlikely they know what edit warring is. Please issue a <nowiki>{{3RR}}</nowiki> warning and come back if the problem continues. ] <sup>]</sup> 08:43, 2 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
:Do you really think this is a new user? His fourth edit was to upload an image, his fifth edit was creating a page with an infobox? I don't think so. | |||
:Still no response from him, and now an anon IP has taken up the cause, sans discussion also. ] (]) 16:45, 2 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
== ] reported by ] (Result:Both blocked 24h, article s-protected) == | |||
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{{Article|United States journalism scandals}}. {{3RRV|Wndl42}}: Time reported: 08:06, 2 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
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*1st revert: edit comment: ''Undid apparent vandalism'' | |||
*2nd revert: edit comment ''Undid revision 195225281 by 70.13.183.189 suspected sock puppet of USER:ANDYVPHIL'' (see http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Suspected_sock_puppets/Andyvphil) | |||
*3rd revert: edit comment: ''see talk'' | |||
*4th revert: edit summary: ''Undid revision 195227982 by Andyvphil... reported for sock puppetry'' | |||
*5th revert: edit comment ''rvt vandalsim'' | |||
*6th revert: ''Undid revision 195238238 by 70.13.183.189... rvt repeated vandalism - see talk'' | |||
*Diff of 3RR warning: edit comment: '''"Your next revert will be 4RR. Restrain yourself."''' | |||
I issued the 3RR warning after WNDL42's 3rd revert and returned later to find he had reverted three more times. He should be familiar with the rules by now. He first issued me a bogus 3RR warning about Feb 3rd (discussion ) and has been spamming my talk page with bogus 3RR and other warnings ever since, and has been involved in at least one 3RR dispute on this page before. This is not the place to complain about his BLP-violating POV pushing, so I won't. But I direct the attention of anyone interested to my response to the suggestion that I am or have a sockpuppet where I make an appeal for volunteer intervention. ] (]) 08:06, 2 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
::don't know if it matters but I have been getting into edit wars with ] as well. he refuses to use the talk page in a good-faith fashion and he refuses to make good-faith edit summaries. I find that instead of attempting to work towards consensus text he prefers to rv back to the same text over and over, even when multiple other users disagree, because its full of weasel-words. If you take a look at my history you will see numerous examples of my involvements with him, and how he uses words and edit summaries. So oh well, but I can see how he could push someone else into a 3rr situation through ''his own'' actions. ] (]) 08:53, 2 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
*Both users are clearly guilty of edit warring. I suggest dispute resolution after the blocks expire. ] <sup>]</sup> 08:55, 2 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
== ] reported by ] (Result:24 hours) == | |||
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{{Article|Ancient Macedonians}}. {{3RRV|DefendEurope}}: Time reported: 09:48, 2 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
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Revert warring for the inclusion of a number of low-quality external links and a POV change to the wording of the lead. Longterm contentious article, all issues have been discussed for years. ] is applicable. ] ] 09:48, 2 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
== ] reported by ] (]) 12:50, 2 March 2008 (UTC) (Result: ) == | |||
*] violation on {{Article|St. John's University (Jamaica, Queens, NY) }}. {{3RRV|TiconderogaCCB }}: Time reported: 12:50, 2 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
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Has been edit warring for a few days and at least 3 3rr violations in the past few days. Has resulted in the creating of two articles and dues to his behavior. ] (]) 12:50, 2 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
TiconderogaCCB is attempting to correct the article, while the above reporter is vandalizing it. This user has been demonstrating the same conduct of reverting, and is now sockpuppeting by using an IP instead of his user name, ]. - --] (]) 17:42, 2 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
At no point did I use a sockpuppet via IP. Even if I did use an IP i could have easily been logged off which I didn't. TiconderogaCCB always uses IP edits and changes them in right afterwards . In addition TiconderogaCCB, Keeps deleting opinions that are contrary to his opinion in an attempt to build a consensus. It can be seen here where this opinion was deleted "J.Delany agreed to this verions | |||
- I agree to this verion as well ] (]) 12:35, 2 March 2008 (UTC)" his reason was vandalism and he says discussion was deleted when it was simply moved from the top to the bottom to go in chronological order(after he moved it). Also he asked for an opinion on which version is better to which i was notified and so was he . When the third opinion came in he simply ignored what the third opinion was and simply reverted the page . I thought we had a compromise and would listen to the 3rd opinion, but now i'm really starting to wonder if there can be any compromise with him. ] (]) 03:13, 3 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
:J.delanoy did not agree to either version, and offered critique of both. There is now an opprotunity for other editors to vote on the option they prefer, and I think it is best to see where that leads us. This editor just will not quit, and even other editors comments recognize that he is attempting to vandalize, not improve the article. - --] (]) 03:35, 3 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
So because you didn't agree with J.Delanoy you simply reverted the whole article. So why ask for a 3rd opinion? What if I had done the same? You're the editor who won't quit! That other editor.. that was you! ] (]) 03:49, 3 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
:We obtained another opinion, but it was ambiguous, and now I am seeking input from other editors, which scares you. Also, please stop undoing the archive, it was recommended by Misplaced Pages. - --] (]) 03:55, 3 March 2008 (UTC | |||
:::3rd opinion by J.Delanoy scared you. That's you you ignored it. He gave a very thorough opinion which you ignored! ] (]) 03:57, 3 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
::You did not offer any alterations to the article either. It was a good opinion, but vague. The editors input will be more appropriate to deal with this issue. You should also not be saying that he "preferred" your article, because that was by no means his conclusion. - --] (]) 04:08, 3 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
With respect to the parties involved, the entire point of a third opinion is to discuss it and come to some sort of compromise, or for one of the parties to acknowledge that the other's version is acceptable after all. The absolute wrong thing to do is to receive a third opinion and immediately revert again. If the opinion was ambiguous on some points, then '''open a dialogue on those points'''. Both TiconderogaCCB and Uconnstud were very specifically warned not to revert to either version before discussing the matter on the talk page, and that is exactly what ended up happening - which explains in part why the article has now been protected again. ] <sup> ] </sup>~<small> ] </small> 13:14, 3 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
== ] reported by ] (Result: ) == | |||
*] violation on ]. {{3RRV|Siekierki}}: Time reported: 16:29, 2 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
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*10th revert: 19:35, 1 March 2008 | |||
*11th revert: 11:07, 2 March 2008 | |||
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A short explanation of the incident. | |||
The article is about countries wanting to join the European Union. There is a section on ] which, rightly, mentions that some EU countries and Serbia dispute Kosovo's independence, and agreement would be needed before Kosovo joined the EU. | |||
Siekierki wants his POV to prevail, and keeps changing the article so the section on Kosovo is a sub heading of the section of th Serbian section. It should be noted that the majority of EU mamber states have recognised (or have publicly announced th they are in the process of recognising) Kosovo's independence. | |||
] (]) 16:29, 2 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
== ] reported by ] (Result:withdrawn by reporter) == | |||
<s>*] violation on {{Article|Che Guevara}}. {{3RRV|Redthoreau}}: Time reported: 16:53, 2 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
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] has been in FAR since Feb. 23. See: | |||
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of massive editing by ] since January 2008 that doubled the article size and introduced massive POV. He is not | |||
participating in the FAR, except to object. He has not be participating in the talk page discussions, as he has asked to repeatedly, before he makes changes. The above edits are the first he has made since the FAR began. </s> ] 16:53, 2 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
I wish to withdraw this complaint as I will no longer be editing the article. Thanks! ] 20:32, 2 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
== ] reported by ] (Result:24h) == | |||
*] violation on {{Article|Ruairí Ó Brádaigh}}. {{3RRV|WilliamHanrahan }}: Time reported: 18:57, 2 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
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Editor persists in edit warring to include a minority term in an article where it doesn't belong, despite being reverted by four different editors. ---<font face="Celtic">]<sub>'']''</sub></font> 18:57, 2 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
== ] reported by ] (Result: 24 hrs) == | |||
*] violation on {{Article|Iriomote cat}}. {{3RRV|UtherSRG}}: Time reported: 20:23, 2 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
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This is but one of more than a dozen articles that the user is actively edit-warring over, and I would appreciate an outside admin to please assist with the situation. | |||
The user has an extended history of refusing to accept any view but his own on a style issue and has engaged in widespread edit-warring over it for ages. UtherSRG specifically was notified of 3RR (though it shouldn't have been necessary, he is a heavy contributor to[REDACTED] and even an admin, he full well knows the rules): | |||
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Please see ] for more on the recent events. This is a long-term, chronic issue where UtherSRG has repeatedly not convinced other[REDACTED] editors of his view on the topic, yet maintains that he can strong arm the issue with reverts. A huge discussion took place at ] at the end of 2007, of which he was a part, and it resulted in consensus language now found on the front page of WP:MOS. His view was discussed and it was not accepted. UtherSRG refuses to allow edits where other wikipedians align animal articles with WP:MOS and instead enforces his personal viewpoint with the reverts. I edited a series of articles on various cat species be formatted according to ] and it's what triggered the latest barrage of reverts. Misplaced Pages editors have patiently and calmly discussed this issue with him many times (eg ) but he refuses to accept consensus. ] (]) 20:23, 2 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
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:Also I see there was a violation of 3RR by UtherSRG on the ] article. | |||
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:These two articles are where 3RR has been violated, but there are about a dozen other additional articles where he has been reverting 1-3 times a day. ] (]) 21:19, 2 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
* 24 hrs. ] <small>]</small> 02:23, 3 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
== ] at ] == | |||
:Same version introduced by user above three times in ''25'' hours. Was warned on this same subject on 17 February for a similar group of edits. This is not the first time the same editor has violated the spirit of 3RR, usually on this same article. Note that despite the claim that wholesale (highly biased changes) would be explained on talk page, this did not happen. Note the version in question - introduced by kborer - is inflammatory and highly POV: "''Socialized medicine''' is any ] that embodies the fundamental principle of ],<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.westandfirm.org/inform.html|title=FIRM info page}}</ref> <ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.mises.org/story/2424|title= Socialized Medicine in a Wealthy Country by Llewellyn H. Rockwell, Jr.}}</ref> namely reduced individual ] in favor of increased centralized control."--] (]) 22:17, 2 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
::One more revert since then, i.e. four times in appr 30 hours. Please note the original edit in this period was essentially a revert to a version from February 16 . The more recent reverts are at the history page . Note that kborer has been warned before, but cleans his talk page history to remove these notices.--] (]) 06:42, 3 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
:::This is purely a content dispute. Last reverts by Kborer were to a different compromise version that does not mention reduced individual liberty. Gregalton has stated on the talk page of the article that he is encouraging to revert instead of having a discussion on the talk page. --] (]) 19:47, 3 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
::::This is a misrepresentation. Changing one or two words to a so-called "compromise" version (which several editors had objected to and is by no means a compromise version) is still violating the spirit of 3RR.--] (]) 20:15, 3 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
== ] reported by ] (Result:No action ) == | |||
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*] violation on {{Article|Kentucky colonel}}. {{3RRV|Dmknable}}: Time reported: 01:17, 3 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
* Malformed report. No action taken. ] <small>]</small> 02:17, 3 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
== ] reported by ] (Result: page semi protected) == | |||
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*] violation on ] by {{3RRV|Realist2}}: Time reported: ] (]) 01:39, 3 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
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User Realist2 is engaging in an edit war and has reverted reliably cited information a total of 4 time in less than 90 minutes. Looking at the user's history and talk pages (a die-hard Michael Jackson fan), there appears to be a history of this. ] (]) 01:39, 3 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
*If you would care to look at the ] or ] articles you will see that this user was using his account on 1 page and his ip address on the other, their were two of them (the same person) vandalising each page. You will also see that since then I have added an addition '''6''' sources to the 2 that were already there supporting my argument.] (]) 01:46, 3 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
*Infact its a triple sock puppet. | |||
] (]) 02:05, 3 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
: Page semi-protected for one week to prevent disruption. ] <small>]</small> 02:15, 3 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
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:::This is utter nonsense. ] is making baseless accusations of sock puppetry in order to detract away from the fact that he/she has broken the 3RR policy and has reverted the "Thriller" page FIVE times in the last couple of hours (including once again since this complaint was listed as "resolved"). He/she is removing valid, reputable and CITED information purely because he/she wants to. This is vandalism. However if we are on the topic of sock puppetry, an equal accusation could be made against him/her on the main Michael Jackson page for also being the user ]. Considering this user has a history of such behaviour, I suggest the ] account be suspended.] (]) 02:39, 3 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
Utter rubbish ive provided evidence you have just made alligations. ] (]) 02:46, 3 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
::You have not provided evidence at all, you have simply made an allegation based on the fact that myself and another user have edited the same boards at some point in order to detract from the fact that you yourself are in breach of Wiki policy.] (]) 02:52, 3 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
And that an ip adress was used as well. ] (]) 02:54, 3 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
::Again - this is not evidence of anything. You are clearly too immature and irresponsible to even be using Misplaced Pages.] (]) 03:00, 3 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
== ] reported by ] (Result:48 hours) == | |||
*] violation on {{Article|Mickey Rooney}}. {{3RRV|Patkirkwoood}}: 02:27, 3 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
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Discussion had occurred regarding lead paragraph. This individual persisted in changing what had been agreed on, despite notices on talk page and notes on article talk page, to a poorly worded, stylistically inferior, time framed change. Additionally, he attempted to insert copyrighted photo during most of the reverts despite notices to the contrary. ] (]) 02:27, 3 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
:Blocked for 48 hours due to the user's persistence even after multiple warnings. ] ] 02:33, 3 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
== ] reported by ] (Result: No action) == | |||
*] violation on {{Article|Hillary Rodham Clinton}}. {{3RRV|Wasted Time R}}: Time reported: 02:42, 3 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
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The content in question was removed by . Wasted Time has worked hard on the article and seems to feel he has ownership of its content because he rewrote and reinserted the same "polarizing" categorization of the subject of the BLP without first passing it by the numerous commentors who opposed the polarizing label for the subject of the BLP. I have asked him to get consensus before reincluding the polarizing section and his response has been to break the 3RR rule. As an experienced (very) user he must be well aware of the rule. Normally I would not report this but I fear that the User's attention to this and other articles he is trying to move into FAC is becoming a bit obsessive so perhaps a small reprimand by authority would snap him out of it. ] (]) 02:42, 3 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
:I would ''WELCOME'' administrators looking at this, the more the better. Please read my explanation of the situation at ], and the section above that ], both of which MrGrantEvans2 has been non-responsive to, instead just repeatedly deleting the material in question. I ''have'' polled the previous objectors to the previous version of the material, although they'll have a hard time judging the revised material since MrGrantEvans2 keeps deleting it. I would also welcome administrators judging my record of contributions to Misplaced Pages versus MrGrantEvans2, on this article or any other article. ] (]) 03:02, 3 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
:Note also that MrGrantEvans2's first removal of the entire section occurred before all of the above, , which was reverted two minutes later by admin ] . So I'm not the only reverter. ] (]) 03:06, 3 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
*After reading through the talk page, I see no clear consensus for the complete deletion of the section as the reporting user would suggest... Edit-warring has occurred on both sides with, in my opinion, both sides liable to blocking if it continues. I think the reporting user intentionally used 3RR to try to lure Wasted Time into committing a 3RR breach in a purposeful attempt to game the system so I will not block for now... although I would suggest both sides stop, wait for some more opinion to filter in through the talk pages before anyone does anything else. No block for now. Other admins are free to disagree but I think this is the sensible thing to do. ''']''' ]|] 07:46, 3 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
== ] reported by ] (Result: 24 hours) == | |||
*] violation on {{Article|Michael Jackson}} and {{Article|Thriller}}. {{3RRV|Realist2}}: Time reported: 03:14, 3 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
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This is my second report in the past couple of hours. The ] has been engaging in edit warring on at least two different pages (see the "Thriller" complaint above) and continues to do so. Despite warnings, he/she has now broken the 3RR on both of these pages in the past few hours alone. The Thriller page has even been semi-protected by an administrator, but this has not stopped ]. The account should therefore be suspended from further editing. ] (]) 03:14, 3 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
If you noticed ive already ended the issue although you heve definately been engaged in either sock puppetry or tag teaming. I have ended the issue coming to a compromise on it.] (]) 03:18, 3 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
::Trying to "make nice" now are we? It's too late. You have flouted the rules of Misplaced Pages consistently and will be held accountable. And I am not interested in your lame accusations. ] (]) 03:21, 3 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
No I care about the articles and your actions here constitute either puppetry or tag teaming. | |||
--] (]) 03:24, 3 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
::You dont care about the articles at all, you only care about hyping your idol by quoting outrageous sales figures that cannot be definitively proven. And it's not "tag-teaming" just because more than one person agrees that your edits (and reverts) are just plain wrong. ] (]) 03:26, 3 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
Both you editors work on the same articles yourself if you arent the same ppl so tag teaming is defo their. I do care about that article and am working on it and its improved dramatically , if been working almost soley on it and ].--] (]) 03:32, 3 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
your coming across as some1 who hates jackson or his supports. you edited the article to make it look like he made up that figure which is pov. ] (]) 03:34, 3 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
::Good god, listen to yourself! Possessive and territorial much? Firstly, let me just say that you do not own the Michael Jackson and Thriller pages, no matter how much you work on them. If other people can add reliably CITED information to them, then you cannot stop it just because you don't want your pop idol to be diminished in any way. Secondly, I do not hate Jackson at all. I simply do not believe that Thriller has sold 104 million copies. If you look at the certifications for countries around the world, it just isn't possible....no matter what he claims himself. All of the sources you have cited merely repeat what he said himself at the 2006 World Music Awards - but that doesn't make it a fact. Therefore you you have to allow other "cited" sources so people can make up their own minds. The fact that you are obviously such a die-hard MJ fan means that you are not impartial enough to edit the articles responsibly and your behaviour today has shown that.] (]) 03:51, 3 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
Guys, just as a reminder, at the top of this page it says "Do not continue a dispute on this page." This page is for WP:3RR violations only, and you've both given the admins plenty of information to work with. Please continue the argument on the appropriate page. Thanks! ] (]) 04:00, 3 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
*24 hour block per policy. Edit warring needs to stop on both sides or editing will probably be locked... there's talk pages for a reason. ''']''' ]|] 07:29, 3 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
== ] reported by ] (Result: ) == | |||
*] violation on {{Article|Moldovan language}}. {{3RRV|Xasha}}: Time reported: 13:02, 3 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
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== ] reported by ] (Result: 24 hours) == | |||
*] violation on {{Article|Affinion Group}}. {{3RRV|Shearwater63}}: Time reported: 17:46, 3 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
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Editor is an employee (per comment on my talk page) of Affinion, formerly known Trilegiant and a whole string of other names. Affinion is trying to distance itself from the many complaints and lawsuits filed against it under its past names, and to that end, the editor is attempting to remove references to those problems from the article. ] | ] 17:46, 3 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
*Blocked for 24 hours. So far, this user has worked only on this article. Since this user is very new (despite heeding above warnings), I think it might be too early to consider this user to be a ]. - ] ] 18:38, 3 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
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*] violation on {{Article|Landmark Education}}. {{3RRV|Pax Arcane}}: Time reported: 18:14, 3 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
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This editor insists on returning the Religious Implicaitons section to the article repeatedly when many editors have a problem with the relevance of this section and have pointed out that the citations of that the section do not support what is written. Pax Arcane’s comments on the article's talk page have resulted in being warned repeatedly about ] and ] by both admins and other editors. Rather than address the issues that other editors have with the section, He has reverted 5 different times with in 24 hours. This person has been warned about the 3RR rule in the past. | |||
== Editors and Administrators vandalizing content submitted by myself == | |||
I am sorry to say; without naming them directly here (you can track them down) that my new physics related page has not simply been deleted but my contributions have been vandalized by these editors not just in my opinion but in the sense that these administrators and editors (obviously editorial jockeys but without basic physics knowledge) simply a priori regard anything I add on this topic sub-Planck to be garbadge. These adminstrators should quite bluntly be kicked off; they have habit of harrassing contributors .... | |||
Furthermore, they seem to have deleted the contents of my new page -- not simply removed it but disappeared it from the history sections. | |||
I got so fed up I added an apparently necessary new page on the general behavior I allue to above; which in the best spirt of[REDACTED] was deleted as "patent nonsense" by these administrators even though the content was not in any way patent nonsense as defined by wikipedia; I am being harassed and was harassed by them before hand; obviously they have been around a while and will probably "win" but in a hollow way making[REDACTED] less usable for the masses. Why these particular morons who know nothing of physics attempt to delete or remove my page which needs no references as it was common knowledge to physisits at present and also creates a section for the comprehensive addition of other refernce, shows that they are more interested in exercising editorial power than in dealing with the content. These administrators are small minded ignorant idiots who SHOULD NOT HAVE THE POWER to administer physics sites of which their grasp of the content is so poor as to make it inevitable that they cannot separate garbadge and vandalism from true content; indeed please start having specialized administrators in content areas so I[REDACTED] will NOT BE FURTHER VANDALIZED by the gross ignorance of these would be "saviors". A little editorial power (without the corresponding conent understanding) is not just a dangerous thing; but leades to the gross phenomena of wikifascism ] now prevalent... | |||
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User:Xuangzadoo reported by User:Ratnahastin (Result: Page protected indef)
Page: List of religious slurs (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: Xuangzadoo (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Previous version reverted to:
Diffs of the user's reverts:
- 19:29, 17 January 2025 (UTC) "Undid revision 1270059834 by 25 Cents FC (rv, none of that contradicts my edits. There are no sources which call "pajeet" a religious slur directed at Hindus. It's only a religious slur for sikhs. There are no sources which call Chuhras Christians or Hindus, they are muslims. There are no sources which mention "cow piss drinker" originating in the US, it's from South Asia. None of my edits contradict what the talk page says.)"
- 16:57, 17 January 2025 (UTC) "Undid revision 1270040967 by Ratnahastin (The articles specifically mention "pajeet" as a religious slur directed at sikhs and/or as a racial slur directed at other south asians. There is no mention of "pajeet" being directed as a religious slur at Hindus.)"
- 16:44, 17 January 2025 (UTC) "/* Hindus */ not a religious slur targeted at Hindus, removed"
- 01:28 15 January 2025 "The two sources added for "Pajeet" specifically mention that it's directed at Sikhs or at south asians racially, not at Hindus religiously, removed. "Sanghi" does not have a separate mention for Kashmir in any of its sources, removed. Added disambiguating link to Bengali Hindus. Corrected origin of "cow-piss drinker" to the correct country of origin as mentioned in the source. Added further information for "Dothead"."
- 11:55, 14 January 2025 11:55 "Undid revision 1269326532 by Sumanuil"
Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:
- 16:58, 17 January 2025 (UTC) "Warning: Edit warring on List of religious slurs."
Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:
- 16:52, 17 January 2025 (UTC) "/* 'Anti-Christian slurs' */ cmt"
- 17:18, 17 January 2025 (UTC) "/* Kanglu */ add"
Comments:
All these reverts yet not a single response at the talkpage. - Ratnahastin (talk) 01:42, 18 January 2025 (UTC)
- I am replying here as I'm not sure what you want from me.
- Every edit I made is fairly accurate and doesn't contradict or vandalize any of wikipedia's rules.
- Xuangzadoo (talk) 07:29, 18 January 2025 (UTC)
- You are still edit warring without posting at the talkpage. - Ratnahastin (talk) 16:07, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
- More reverts , can someone do something? - Ratnahastin (talk) 01:06, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
- Page protected I also note the user has been alerted to CTOPS, which I protected the page under, so there will be no room for argument if this behavior continues. Daniel Case (talk) 23:43, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
User:Noorullah21 reported by User:HerakliosJulianus (Result: No violation)
Page: Battle of Jamrud (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: Noorullah21 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Previous version reverted to:
Diffs of the user's reverts:
- 07:17, 18 January 2025 (UTC) "Restored revision 1270112351 by Noorullah21 (talk): No it hasn't, they haven't even given their conclusion, and you again edited the page to revert it.."
- 00:05, 18 January 2025 (UTC) "Restored revision 1270108346 by Noorullah21 (talk): No he doesn't, please take this to the talk page now to be more clear."
- 23:36, 17 January 2025 (UTC) "Restored revision 1270099439 by Noorullah21: "where they too were saved by the arrival of substantial reinforcements.
Akbar Khan broke off the engagement and returned to Jalalabad, leaving the Sikhs in control of Jamrud, but when he returned to Kabul he claimed the victory and was given a hero’s welcome. For decades after, this pyrrhic victory was celebrated annually in the Afghan capital.39" -Lee, (calls it a phyrric Afghan victory), and Hussain isn't on google scholars."
Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:
- 23:56, 17 January 2025 (UTC) "/* January 2025 */ new section"
- 00:10, 18 January 2025 (UTC) "Warning: Removal of content, blanking on Battle of Jamrud."
- 12:01, 18 January 2025 (UTC) "Final warning: Removal of content, blanking on Battle of Jamrud."
Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:
- 10:35, 17 January 2025 (UTC) "/* Aftermath section */ new section"
- 00:28, 18 January 2025 (UTC) "/* Aftermath section */ Reply"
- 00:37, 18 January 2025 (UTC) "/* Aftermath section */ Reply"
- 01:15, 18 January 2025 (UTC) "/* Aftermath section */ Reply"
- 01:27, 18 January 2025 (UTC) "/* Aftermath section */ Reply"
- 01:53, 18 January 2025 (UTC) "/* Aftermath section */ Reply"
- 02:01, 18 January 2025 (UTC) "/* Aftermath section */ Reply"
- 02:08, 18 January 2025 (UTC) "/* Aftermath section */ Reply"
- 02:23, 18 January 2025 (UTC) "/* Aftermath section */ Reply"
Comments:
This is not the first time they are edit warring and breaking 3RR, they were previously warned by an admin . There seems to be a habit of them continuously misinterpreting the sources and pushing certain PoVs. They have opted for 3O by themselves but disagreed with the opinion given. Indo-Greek 12:22, 18 January 2025 (UTC)
- Im not that involved(haven’t reverted anybody, just made a comment on the talk page). As a word of advice because so many people seem to forget this fact, when your adding disputed content, ONUS is on you to attain consensus. Which hasn’t happened here.
- “The responsibility for achieving consensus for inclusion is on those seeking to include disputed content.”
- It seems that you yourself were also edit warring, except your the one who’s adding disputed content so per ONUS, you were never supposed to revert him to begin with. You need to wait until talk page discussions conclude and gain consensus. Someguywhosbored (talk) 15:13, 18 January 2025 (UTC)
- A. The instance you pointed out was an administrator warning me for one revert on the History of India page. (Talking to Indo-Greek, the person who reported and I had a dispute with here..)
- B. When the individual hasn't concluded their WP:3O, you immediately reverted the page again saying they did. There's still a very open discussion with the user... (They've even edited the page most recently!.. I'd also like to remind you WP:3O is non binding even when the opinion is given, meaning whether they say either or is in the right.. the dispute can still continue until a Consensus can be made. The burden of proof is on you for WP:ONUS (you also kept readding a non WP:RS source.. (Farrukh Hussain). I pointed out WP:3O as a solution, and you keep reverting the page far before they've given their opinion. Lee... (this is now bringing the argument from the talk page here..) calls it a phyrric victory. Noorullah (talk) 16:02, 18 January 2025 (UTC)
- I also told said where per WP:ONUS, it's per them to seek Consensus. Noorullah (talk) 16:17, 18 January 2025 (UTC)
- I reverted my edit as of now per the edit summary. (the last edit prior to that is the person working on our WP:3PO. Noorullah (talk) 16:34, 18 January 2025 (UTC)
- This seems like WP:TAGTEAM, but anyways. The admin had warned you for the same edit warring issue, not 1RR. You had asked for 3O which an editor eventually gave one quoting:
I found a huge contradiction in your quote. You said "Nothing here calls the battle a Sikh victory," but the quote literally says "The Sikhs had beaten the Afghans"
which was later discarded by you which is fine, but if other editors accusing you for overlooking the source and found you contradicting yourself then you should have been more cautious rather than outrightly reverting my changes. Indo-Greek 16:56, 18 January 2025 (UTC)- Have you not read the rest of the discussion..? the WP:3O is being discussed.
- You've completely ignored this.
- Scroll down! (on the talk page). Noorullah (talk) 17:10, 18 January 2025 (UTC)
- I also didn't violate the 3 revert rule. I didn't revert 4 times, I reverted 3 times. Although of course, this seems to be more inclined toward edit warring, which both of us did.
- @Someguywhosbored has just jumped into the discussion (and they seem to be more in favor of my argument) -- per their most recent talk page msg on the battle of jamrud, which shows a growing consensus on my side? .. Nonetheless, I still find this report baseless. Noorullah (talk) 17:35, 18 January 2025 (UTC)
- Both of us did No, I barely reverted your changes two times. You need to go through WP:3RR, don't confuse it with WP:4RR. I also think that Someguywhosbored didn't jump here randomly and what consensus you're referring to? The report is not baseless besides it shows some sign of WP:MEAT. Indo-Greek 19:39, 18 January 2025 (UTC)
- What?
- "No, I barely reverted your changes two times. You need to go through WP:3RR" -- Yes, I'm talking about myself.. I reverted 3 times, to break the 3rr rule, you have to revert more than three times (i.e 4 times) "An editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page" -- I also self reverted per the former.
- "Someguywhosbored didn't jump here randomly and what consensus you're referring to?" -- He responded on the talk page (of the page), he responded here, and he also re-reverted the page.
- "The report is not baseless besides it shows some sign of WP:MEAT." - Are you insinuating @Someguywhosbored is a Meatpuppet? Because you've drawn effectively numerous flanks into the air on what this report is really about.
- A. In your edit summary you said the Third opinion was concluded.. (it wasn't.)
- B. You report here for 3rr (when 3rr wasn't violated, and I'm assuming this is more inclined toward edit war..?)
- C. You then throw around Meatpuppet accusations?
- I'm sorry but there's no way this discussion is remaining civil anymore. Did you even read the Meatpuppet page? "The term meatpuppet may be seen by some as derogatory and should be used with care, in keeping with Misplaced Pages:Civility. Because of the processes above, it may be counterproductive to directly accuse someone of being a "meatpuppet", and doing so will often only inflame the dispute."
- Flinging around accusations of Meatpuppetry clearly breaches Civility. Noorullah (talk) 20:05, 18 January 2025 (UTC)
- You also did revert it three times.. Shown here:
- (First time)
- (Second time)
- (Third Time) Noorullah (talk) 20:42, 18 January 2025 (UTC)
- You are again falsely accusing me of breaking 3RR. You do realise that the first revert was more than 24 hours prior than the other two? I don't have much to say here it's quite self explanatory, while this is not the same case with you, where 3RR has been violated in the span of 24 hours. Indo-Greek 21:09, 18 January 2025 (UTC)
- I'm not accusing you of breaking 3RR, I'm saying you reverted three times. To break 3RR it has to be four reverts. (you have to revert more than three times). Your reverts were also in a 24 hour period. (Or just shy of it?)
- I didn't revert four times to break 3RR. Where are the diffs of me reverting you four times? Noorullah (talk) 21:12, 18 January 2025 (UTC)
- You are again falsely accusing me of breaking 3RR. You do realise that the first revert was more than 24 hours prior than the other two? I don't have much to say here it's quite self explanatory, while this is not the same case with you, where 3RR has been violated in the span of 24 hours. Indo-Greek 21:09, 18 January 2025 (UTC)
- Both of us did No, I barely reverted your changes two times. You need to go through WP:3RR, don't confuse it with WP:4RR. I also think that Someguywhosbored didn't jump here randomly and what consensus you're referring to? The report is not baseless besides it shows some sign of WP:MEAT. Indo-Greek 19:39, 18 January 2025 (UTC)
- I also told said where per WP:ONUS, it's per them to seek Consensus. Noorullah (talk) 16:17, 18 January 2025 (UTC)
No violation – there must be four or more reverts within a 24 hour period for the 3-Revert Rule to apply; the links you have provided do not meet these criteria. As noted in the loooong discussion above, which again proves that using the talk page is a much preferable alternative to taking it over here. Also, this is getting a bit stale. Daniel Case (talk) 12:33, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
User:Thomediter reported by User:Number 57 (Result: Declined)
Page: Next Danish general election (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: Thomediter (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Diffs of the user's reverts:
Editor was asked to respect BRD and warned that one more revert would result in them being reported for breaching 3RR. They made the fourth revert immediately after responding to the warning.
Diff of ANEW notice posted to user's talk page:
Comments:
- User:Thomediter, I am going to revert your last (fourth) revert; you are indeed edit warring and you're not giving any reasons for your edits, never mind for your ongoing reverts. If you revert one more time you will be blocked. Please don't let it get that far. Seek the talk page. Drmies (talk) 17:40, 18 January 2025 (UTC)
- Declined per above and reported editor's inactivity. Daniel Case (talk) 22:46, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
User:GiggaHigga127 reported by User:Mac Dreamstate (Result: 48 hours)
Page: Conor Benn (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: GiggaHigga127 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Previous version reverted to: – only welterweight in the infobox
Diffs of the user's reverts:
Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning:
Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: clarification on style guide at user talk page
Diff of ANEW notice posted to user's talk page:
Comments:
User:GiggaHigga127 insists on adding the light middleweight and middleweight divisions to Conor Benn's infobox. Our style guide at WikiProject Boxing, MOS:BOXING, says to only include weight classes in which a boxer has notably competed, that being usually for regional/minor/world titles. In Benn's case, that division was welterweight for almost the entirety of his career, and he did indeed hold a regional title in that division. In 2023 he was given a lengthy ban from the sport, from which he recently returned in a pair of throwaway fights within the light middleweight limit, against non-notable opposition and with no titles at stake. Per the style guide, those throwaway fights are not important enough to warrant the inclusion of light middleweight in the infobox, at least until he begins competing there regularly.
As far as middleweight goes, Benn has never competed anywhere close to that weight class. He has a fight 'scheduled' to take place at middleweight, but until the bell rings to officially commence proceedings, WP:CRYSTAL and WP:V should apply, and again it should not be listed in the infobox until then. This same fight was 'scheduled' in 2023, only to be cancelled after Benn failed a drug test—something which happens in boxing all the time. In fact, at the Project we had a similar RfC regarding upcoming fights in record tables, so the same should apply in this instance. WP:IAR would also be a cop-out, because the whole point of MOS:BOXING was to ensure consistency across boxing articles. Mac Dreamstate (talk) 18:50, 18 January 2025 (UTC)
- It continues: , this time with me being called a "melt". I can't imagine what that is, but all the better if it's an insult for obvious reasons. Also, no responses at user talk page. Mac Dreamstate (talk) 00:06, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
- Predictably, now it's onto block evasion: . NOTHERE. Mac Dreamstate (talk) 15:41, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
- Based on this, it could be meaty as well. Mac Dreamstate (talk) 21:18, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
- Neither nor. I stand by the revision, but that's where any commonality ends. --Dennis Definition (talk) 22:53, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
- Of course you stand by the revision. You show up less than 12 hours after Gigga gets blocked, and perform the exact same revert. Dodgy. Mac Dreamstate (talk) 19:17, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
- Neither nor. I stand by the revision, but that's where any commonality ends. --Dennis Definition (talk) 22:53, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
- Based on this, it could be meaty as well. Mac Dreamstate (talk) 21:18, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
- Predictably, now it's onto block evasion: . NOTHERE. Mac Dreamstate (talk) 15:41, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
User:Logoshimpo reported by User:JayBeeEll (Result: Blocked 24h)
Page: Probability and statistics (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: Logoshimpo (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Previous version reverted to:
Diffs of the user's reverts:
Slow-motion edit-warring: original bold edit was , subsequent reversions are , , .
Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:
Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:
- 20:46, 17 January 2025 (UTC) "/* WP:SELFREF */ Reply"
Comments: The last revert follows talk-page discussion in which two users (including me) have rejected their arguments and no one has agreed with them. Here was their addition to the talk-page before their most recent revert: . JBL (talk) 17:07, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
- Blocked – for a period of 24 hours Daniel Case (talk) 22:49, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
User:Rauzoi reported by User:Crasias (Result: Blocked 36 hours, reporter blocked 24, and page protected for a week)
Page: Nachos (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: Rauzoi (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Previous version reverted to:
Diffs of the user's reverts:
- 17:20, 19 January 2025 (UTC) "original version https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Nachos&diff=prev&oldid=1187016754 vandalized by Crasias"
- Consecutive edits made from 17:00, 19 January 2025 (UTC) to 17:04, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
- 17:00, 19 January 2025 (UTC) "Undid revision 1270457231 by Crasias (talk)"
- 17:04, 19 January 2025 (UTC) ""
- 16:42, 19 January 2025 (UTC) "original version https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Nachos&diff=prev&oldid=1187016754"
- Consecutive edits made from 06:41, 19 January 2025 (UTC) to 06:43, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
- Consecutive edits made from 04:00, 19 January 2025 (UTC) to 04:02, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
- 04:00, 19 January 2025 (UTC) ""
- 04:01, 19 January 2025 (UTC) ""
- 04:02, 19 January 2025 (UTC) "/* Variations */"
Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:
Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:
Comments:
Frequently removing and replacing sourced content that identifies Nachos as "Tex-Mex" rather than "Mexican" Crasias (talk) 17:32, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
- Both editors blocked Rauzoi for 36 hours and Crasias for 24 (one less revert over the limit). 3RRNO does not cover this. Furthermore ...
- Page protected Extended-confirmed for a week since, as both editors are autoconfirmed only, they will not be able to resume hostilities once the blocks expire. The talk page hasn't been used in months. Daniel Case (talk) 23:04, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
User:BoneCrushingDog reported by User:Generalrelative (Result: Blocked one week)
Page: Sex differences in intelligence (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: BoneCrushingDog (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Diffs of the user's reverts:
Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning:
Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:
Diff of ANEW notice posted to user's talk page:
Comments: Note that these edits fall squarely under WP:ARBGS, and the last (6th) revert was done after they were formally notified. Generalrelative (talk) 23:23, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
- Blocked – for a period of one week. Bbb23 (talk) 00:33, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
User:177.84.58.25 reported by User:Moxy (Result: Page already semi-protected)
Page: Exclusive economic zone (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: 177.84.58.25 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Previous version reverted to:
Diffs of the user's reverts:
- Consecutive edits made from 01:13, 20 January 2025 (UTC) to 01:19, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
- 01:13, 20 January 2025 (UTC) "Eu não sou essa pessoa que você está a citar eu comecei a alterar essa página essa e a minhas primeiras vezes , eu estou alteração está página porque eu gosto de ver a área da ZEE de cada país um abaixo do outro ."
- 01:17, 20 January 2025 (UTC) "I started changing this page today I'm just making changes to this page because I like to see the Zee area of each country in the world, please don't make changes"
- 01:19, 20 January 2025 (UTC) "I started changing this page today I'm just making changes to this page because I like to see the Zee area of each country in the world, please don't make changes"
- 00:56, 20 January 2025 (UTC) "Eu não vou mais fazer alteração se deixar o Rankings by area porque eu gosto de Rankings by area"
- 00:46, 20 January 2025 (UTC) "ZEE com alteração perfeita"
- 00:21, 20 January 2025 (UTC) "Alterei o tamanho da zona exclusiva econômica do brasil porque a ZEE aumentou em 2024"
- 23:49, 19 January 2025 (UTC) "Antes essa página sofreu alteração incorreta, com eu fiz uma alteração mais correta ."
Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:
- 00:58, 20 January 2025 (UTC) "Warning: Three-revert rule."
Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:
We discover this week that random numbers were changed a while ago. We changed them back and sort of started a discussion User talk:Maxeto0910#EEZ
Comments:
We are not sure what they are doing...... Think they're mistaken continental shelf for EEZ.Moxy🍁 01:27, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
- Page protected (already semi-protected) ~ ToBeFree (talk) 06:38, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
User:2A01:4B00:D10A:6700:C8CB:A681:5BFA:C14D reported by User:Flat Out (Result: Already blocked)
Page: Harti (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: 2A01:4B00:D10A:6700:C8CB:A681:5BFA:C14D (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Previous version reverted to:
Diffs of the user's reverts:
- 02:28, 20 January 2025 (UTC) "/* Enterprisers */"
- 02:27, 20 January 2025 (UTC) "/* Royalty */"
- 02:21, 20 January 2025 (UTC) "/* Enterprisers */"
- Consecutive edits made from 02:16, 20 January 2025 (UTC) to 02:19, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
- 02:16, 20 January 2025 (UTC) "/* Royalty */"
- 02:19, 20 January 2025 (UTC) "/* Politicians */"
Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:
- 02:27, 20 January 2025 (UTC) "/* Edit Warring */ new section"
Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:
Comments:
- Already blocked (/64 blocked for 1 week by Daniel Case) ~ ToBeFree (talk) 06:41, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
User:Xpander1 reported by User:MimirIsSmart (Result: Blocked 72 hours)
Page: Tübingen School (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: Xpander1 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Previous version reverted to:
Diffs of the user's reverts:
- 07:15, 20 January 2025 (UTC) "Restored revision 974048061 by Arms & Hearts (talk): Self-reverting as per Misplaced Pages:3RRNO"
- 06:20, 20 January 2025 (UTC) "Restored revision 1270517034 by Xpander1 (talk): Please see the redirect page for adding new edits"
- 22:40, 19 January 2025 (UTC) "Restored revision 1270516481 by Xpander1 (talk): Please avoid making an edit war, I asked you nicely"
- 22:37, 19 January 2025 (UTC) "Undid revision 1270516027 by Wikishovel (talk)"
- 22:32, 19 January 2025 (UTC) "Restored revision 1270489731 by Xpander1 (talk): Please add the new sources to Protestant and Catholic Tübingen School Best."
- Consecutive edits made from 19:26, 19 January 2025 (UTC) to 19:58, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
- 19:26, 19 January 2025 (UTC) "Undid revision 1270482917 by Wikishovel (talk) other editors simply continued my original work, which I respect"
- 19:58, 19 January 2025 (UTC) "Redirecting page the newly created page"
- 19:17, 19 January 2025 (UTC) "Restored revision 974048061 by Arms & Hearts (talk): Reverting my own edit to contest page creation attribution"
- 19:07, 18 January 2025 (UTC) "Undid revision 1270267643 by Xpander1 (talk)"
Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:
- 07:46, 20 January 2025 (UTC) "/* January 2025 */ new section"
Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:
- 07:44, 20 January 2025 (UTC) "/* Page creator attribution */ Reply"
- 02:27, 19 January 2025 (UTC) on Misplaced Pages:Requested moves/Technical requests "/* Uncontroversial technical requests */ Decline, this one is more of a histmerge request which would also be declined from WP:NOATT - I'm happy to explain further on a talk page"
Comments:
Extremely aggressive edit warring. Xpander1 had expanded a redirect to a page with no issue but decided it would be better to just create a page, hence a discussion at Special:Diff/1270341854. Editor decided to "redact contribution in protest", initially blanking then resorting to redirecting. User:Wikishovel would assist in reverting these changes with Xpander1 reacting negatively, violating 3RR to get it erased. Editor had created redirects such as Protestant and Catholic Tübingen Schools and Tübingen school (Germany), with Protestant and Catholic Tübingen School being where he did a cut-and-paste move from original article. Has no intention to resolve dispute any time soon. MimirIsSmart (talk) 08:26, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
- All I did was self-reverting, the article had no significant history before my contribution. What you are describing as "copy-pasting", is me putting my own creation in a new page. As I have explained in many places, in the WP:Teahouse, and elsewhere. My rationale is very simple, Misplaced Pages must distinguish between valid-article-creators and redirect-page-creators. I currently count as the latter. Which don't think is fair. Xpander (talk) 08:49, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
- As for now, the page is currently being attributed to User:Wetman on xtools.wmcloud.org/pages/en.wikipedia.org/Wetman and on the article's info page. Xpander (talk) 09:12, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
The Teahouse discussion can be found (for now) at WP:Teahouse#Made an article in place of an redirect. Please see also User talk:Voorts#Protestant and Catholic Tübingen School and Talk:Protestant and Catholic Tübingen School. Wikishovel (talk) 09:09, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
- Blocked – for a period of 72 hours Like Wikishovel, I am mystified—no, make it stunned—that Xpander thinks this edit-warring is justified. In what sense are they not being attributed as the page creator sufficiently for their ego? Do they mean that the page creation log isn't saying that they are? Uh, that's something the software does, that by design no one has control over. Wetman is going to get credit for creating the page, yes, as the empty redirect it was apparently quite happy to have been for 15 years. As noted, no editor familiar with how our processes work would doubt that Xpander, in practical terms, created the article by translating the dewiki article, regardless of what the logs say.
Xpander's repeated reversion to the redirect is, frankly, childish behavior that smacks of page ownership. I strongly remind them not to expect rewards for their editing.
I also reject their argument that 3RRNO#1 shields them as they were merely always "reverting their own edit". Technically that might be arguable, but it is inarguable that, especially given their statement that this was a protest over not getting credit for something no one really expects credit for, they did so in a manner calculated to cause maximum disruption and interfere with the work of others. To allow this to pass on that basis would be opening up a whole new way to game the system. Daniel Case (talk) 20:17, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
- Addendum: I also commend WP:NO THANKS to Xpander1's attention. Daniel Case (talk) 22:23, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
User:92.238.20.255 reported by User:Expert on all topics (Result: Blocked 31 hours)
Page: Oriel High School (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: 92.238.20.255 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Previous version reverted to:
Diffs of the user's reverts:
- 19:20, 20 January 2025 (UTC) "Updated content"
- 19:18, 20 January 2025 (UTC) "Updated content"
- 19:16, 20 January 2025 (UTC) "Deleted content"
- 19:12, 20 January 2025 (UTC) "Deleted content"
- 19:04, 20 January 2025 (UTC) "Deleted content"
Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:
Comments: This IP is trying to censor information in that article --Expert on all topics (talk) 19:26, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
- Blocked – for a period of 31 hours Widr (talk) 19:36, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
- I undid that block and restored it because simply removing the block isn't really an option in response to actually disruptive editing, but the IP editor's behavior wasn't the main issue in this edit war. I'll send warnings around to people who should know better. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 19:43, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
Kelvintjy reported by User:Raoul mishima (Result: Stale)
Page: Political dissidence in the Empire of Japan
User being reported: Kelvintjy (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Previous version reverted to: https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Political_dissidence_in_the_Empire_of_Japan&oldid=1217491179
Diffs of the user's reverts:
- https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Political_dissidence_in_the_Empire_of_Japan&oldid=1227039793
- https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Political_dissidence_in_the_Empire_of_Japan&oldid=1229865081
- https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Political_dissidence_in_the_Empire_of_Japan&oldid=1230019964
- https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Political_dissidence_in_the_Empire_of_Japan&oldid=1230184562
Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: See July 24th 2024 https://en.wikipedia.org/User_talk:Kelvintjy
Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: See "Biased" https://en.wikipedia.org/Talk:Political_dissidence_in_the_Empire_of_Japan
Diff of ANEW notice posted to user's talk page: https://en.wikipedia.org/User_talk:Kelvintjy
Comments:
Hello the user Kelvintjy has been engaged in another war last summer and was banned from the Soka Gakkai page. He's been pursuing an edit war on the Dissidence page too without daring give explanations on the talk page though he was invited to do it many times. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Raoul mishima (talk • contribs) 19:58, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
- Stale Bbb23 (talk) 20:03, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Bbb23 you blocked this user from the page Soka Gakkai in Aug. 2024 for the same reasons. Raoul mishima (talk) 12:54, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
- You also block Raoul but later unblocked him after he made his appeal. Kelvintjy (talk) 00:37, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
I don't understand the user always keep targeting me. I am more of a silence contributor. I had seen how the complainant had argue with other contributor in other talk page and after a while the complainant stay silent and not touching certain topic and instead keep making edit on articles related to Soka Gakkai or Daisaku Ikeda. Now, he is making a lot of edit on Soka Gakkai International. Kelvintjy (talk) 05:11, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
User:Ergzay reported by User:CommunityNotesContributor (Result: 1RR imposed on article)
Page: Elon Musk (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: Ergzay (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Previous version reverted to:
Diffs of the user's reverts:
- 18:31, 21 January 2025 (UTC) "Undid revision 1270884092 by RodRabelo7 (talk) Reverting for user specifying basically WP:IDONTLIKETHIS as their reasoning"
- 18:12, 21 January 2025 (UTC) "Undid revision 1270880207 by EF5 (talk) I believe you have reverted this edit in error so I am adding it back. Rando tweet from a random organization? The Anti-defamation league is cited elsewhere in this article and this tweet was in the article previously. I simply copy pasted it from a previous edit. ADL is a trusted source in the perennial source list WP:Reliable_sources/Perennial_sources#Anti-Defamation_League"
- 17:52, 21 January 2025 (UTC) "Undid revision 1270877579 by EF5 (talk) Removing misinformation"
- 17:30, 21 January 2025 (UTC) "Undid revision 1270854942 by Citing (talk) Discussion ongoing and it's incorrect as well"
- 23:07, 20 January 2025 (UTC) "Revert, this is not the purpose of the short description"
- 22:28, 20 January 2025 (UTC) "Undid revision 1270715109 by Fakescientist8000 (talk) Elon is not a multinational"
Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:
- 17:57, 21 January 2025 (UTC) "Warning: Three-revert rule on Elon Musk." (edit: corrected diff)
Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:
- 18:32, 21 January 2025 (UTC) "stop edit warring now or it all goes to ANI" (edit: added diff, fix date)
Comments:
Breach of WP:3RR (added comment after 18:49, 21 January 2025 (UTC) comment added below). CNC (talk) 18:52, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
User:CommunityNotesContributor seems to be making a mistake here as several of those edits were of different content. You can't just list every single revert and call it edit warring. And the brief edit warring that did happen stopped as I realized I was reverting the wrong thing. https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Talk:Elon_Musk&diff=prev&oldid=1270879523 Ergzay (talk) 18:49, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
- Read the bright read box at WP:3RR (. O3000, Ret. (talk) 18:54, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Objective3000 So let me get this straight, you're saying making unrelated reverts of unrelated content in a 24 hour period hits 3RR? You sure you got that right? As people violate that one all the darn time. Never bothered to report people as it's completely innocent. If you're heavily involved on a page and reverting stuff you'll hit that quick and fast for a rapidly updated page. Ergzay (talk) 18:59, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
- WP:3RR:
An editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page—whether involving the same or different material—within a 24-hour period.
– Muboshgu (talk) 19:01, 21 January 2025 (UTC)- Well TIL on that one as that's the first time I've ever heard of that use case and I've been on this site for 15+ years. 3RR in every use I've ever seen it is about back and forth reverting of the _same content_ within a short period of time. It's a severe rule break where people are clearly edit warring the same content back and forth. Reverting unrelated content on the page (edits that are often clearly vandalism-like edits, like the first two listed) would never violate 3RR in my experience. Ergzay (talk) 19:04, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
- I'd honestly love an explanation on that rule as I can't figure out why it makes sense. You don't want to limit people's ability to fix vandalism on a fast moving page. Ergzay (talk) 19:08, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
- WP:3RR:
There are certain exemptions to the three-revert rule, such as reverting vandalism or clear violations of the policy on biographies of living persons
. – RodRabelo7 (talk) 19:11, 21 January 2025 (UTC)- No I mean even in the wider sense. Like why does it make sense to limit the ability to revert unrelated content on the same page? I can't figure out why that would make sense. The 3RR page doesn't explain that. Ergzay (talk) 19:13, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
- Vandalism is an exemption. But vandalism has a narrow definition. O3000, Ret. (talk) 19:12, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
- WP:3RR:
- WP:3RR:
- @Objective3000 So let me get this straight, you're saying making unrelated reverts of unrelated content in a 24 hour period hits 3RR? You sure you got that right? As people violate that one all the darn time. Never bothered to report people as it's completely innocent. If you're heavily involved on a page and reverting stuff you'll hit that quick and fast for a rapidly updated page. Ergzay (talk) 18:59, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
- Should be added, that I was in the process of reverting my own edit after the above linked comment, but someone reverted it before I could get to it.
- The 18:12 edit was me undoing what was presumed to be a mistaken change by EF5 that I explained in my edit comment as they seemed to think that "some random twitter account" was being used as a source. That revert was not reverted. The 18:31 edit was a revert of an "i don't like it" edit that someone else made, it was not a revert of a revert of my own change. Ergzay (talk) 19:17, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
- Frankly, I thought your characterization of IDONTLIKEIT in your edit summary was improper and was thinking of reverting you, but didn't want to be a part of what I thought was your edit war. O3000, Ret. (talk) 19:26, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
- We can agree to disagree, but the reasons I called it IDONTLIKEIT was because the person who was reverted described the ADL, who is on the perennial sources list as being reliable, in their first edit description with the wording "LMAO, this is as trustworthy as Fox News" followed by "cannot see the pertinence of this" after another editor restored the content with a different source, which is the edit I reverted. Ergzay (talk) 19:34, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
- Looks like you have seven reverts in two days in a CTOP. I've even seen admins ask someone else to revert instead of violating a revert rule themselves. O3000, Ret. (talk) 19:48, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
- What is a CTOP? Ergzay (talk) 19:58, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
- A CTOP is a WP:CTOP. RodRabelo7 (talk) 19:59, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
- What is a CTOP? Ergzay (talk) 19:58, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
- Looks like you have seven reverts in two days in a CTOP. I've even seen admins ask someone else to revert instead of violating a revert rule themselves. O3000, Ret. (talk) 19:48, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
- We can agree to disagree, but the reasons I called it IDONTLIKEIT was because the person who was reverted described the ADL, who is on the perennial sources list as being reliable, in their first edit description with the wording "LMAO, this is as trustworthy as Fox News" followed by "cannot see the pertinence of this" after another editor restored the content with a different source, which is the edit I reverted. Ergzay (talk) 19:34, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
- Frankly, I thought your characterization of IDONTLIKEIT in your edit summary was improper and was thinking of reverting you, but didn't want to be a part of what I thought was your edit war. O3000, Ret. (talk) 19:26, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
- In Ergzay's defense some of these reverts do seem to be covered under BLP, but many do not and I am concerned about the battleground attitude that Ergzay is taking. The edit summaries "Discussion ongoing and it's incorrect as well" and "Removing misinformation" also seems to be getting into righting great wrongs territory as the coverage happened whether you agree with the analysis or not. Horse Eye's Back (talk) 20:05, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Horse Eye's Back Thanks but at this point things are too heated and people are so confident Musk is some kind of Nazi now nothing I say is gonna change anything. It's not worth the mental exhaustion I spent over the last few hours. So I probably won't be touching the page or talk page again for several days at least unless I get pinged. The truth will come out eventually, just like the last several tempest in a teapots on the Elon Musk page that eventually got corrected. Misplaced Pages is gonna be Misplaced Pages. Ergzay (talk) 21:48, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
Misplaced Pages is gonna be Misplaced Pages.
If your argument is that Misplaced Pages is wrong about things and you have to come in periodically to fix it; that’s not an argument that works very well on an administrative noticeboard -- and certainly not a good argument here at AN3. O3000, Ret. (talk) 22:27, 21 January 2025 (UTC)- I wouldn't worry all too much about it, 1rr for the article will slow things down and is a positive outcome all things considered. Horse Eye's Back (talk) 03:26, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Horse Eye's Back Thanks but at this point things are too heated and people are so confident Musk is some kind of Nazi now nothing I say is gonna change anything. It's not worth the mental exhaustion I spent over the last few hours. So I probably won't be touching the page or talk page again for several days at least unless I get pinged. The truth will come out eventually, just like the last several tempest in a teapots on the Elon Musk page that eventually got corrected. Misplaced Pages is gonna be Misplaced Pages. Ergzay (talk) 21:48, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
- Based on the comment in response to the notification for this discussion,
"I've been brought to ANI many times in the past. Never been punished for it"
, I was quite surprised to see that the editor didn't acquire an understanding of 3RR when previously warned for edit warring in 2020. That's sometime ago granted, but additionally a lack of awareness of CTOP, when there is an edit notice at Musk's page regarding BLP policy, is highly suggestive of WP:NOTGETTINGIT. This in addition to the 3RR warning that was ignored, followed by continuing to revert other editors, and eventually arguing that it must be because I am wrong. If there is an essay based on "Everyone else must be wrong because I'm always right" I'd very much like to read it. As for this report, I primarily wanted to nip the edit war in the bud which appears to have worked for now, given the talk page warning failed to achieve anything. I otherwise remain concerned about the general WP:NOTHERE based indicators; disruptive editing, battleground attitude, and lack of willingness to collaborate with other editors in a civil manner. CNC (talk) 23:55, 21 January 2025 (UTC)- I have decided, under CTOPS and mindful of the current situation regarding the article subject, a situation that I think we can agree is unlikely to change anytime soon and is just going to attract more contentious editing, that the best resolution here, given that some of Ergzay's reverts are concededly justified on BLP grounds and that he genuinely seems ignorant of the provision in 3RR that covers all edits (a provision that, since he still wants to know, is in response to certain battleground editors in the past who would keep reverting different material within the same 24 hours so as to comply with the letter, but not the spirit, of 3RR (In other words, another case of why we can't have nice things)) is to put the article under 1RR. It will be duly logged at CTOPS. Daniel Case (talk) 00:02, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
- We are likely to see Ergzay at ANI at some point. But as I was thinking of asking for 1RR early today; I'm fine with that decision. O3000, Ret. (talk) 00:25, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
- Good decision. I otherwise think a final warning for edit warring is appropriate, given the 3RR violation even excluding BLPREMOVE reverts (first 4 diffs to be specific). There's nothing else to drag out here given Ergzay intends to take a step back from the Musk article, and per above, there is always the ANI route for any future incidents. CNC (talk) 00:40, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
- @CommunityNotesContributor My statement that you quoted there is because I'm a divisive person and people often don't like how I act on Misplaced Pages and the edits I make. People have dragged me to this place several times in the past over the years and I've always found it reasonably fair against people who are emotionally involved against dragging me down. That is why I said what I did. And as to the previous warning that you claim was me "not getting it", that was 3 reverts of the same material, and with a name 3RR the association is automatic. Ergzay (talk) 09:16, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
- I have decided, under CTOPS and mindful of the current situation regarding the article subject, a situation that I think we can agree is unlikely to change anytime soon and is just going to attract more contentious editing, that the best resolution here, given that some of Ergzay's reverts are concededly justified on BLP grounds and that he genuinely seems ignorant of the provision in 3RR that covers all edits (a provision that, since he still wants to know, is in response to certain battleground editors in the past who would keep reverting different material within the same 24 hours so as to comply with the letter, but not the spirit, of 3RR (In other words, another case of why we can't have nice things)) is to put the article under 1RR. It will be duly logged at CTOPS. Daniel Case (talk) 00:02, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
User:203.115.14.139 reported by User:Flat Out (Result: )
Page: Paul Cézanne (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: 203.115.14.139 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Previous version reverted to:
Diffs of the user's reverts:
- Consecutive edits made from 06:52, 22 January 2025 (UTC) to 06:53, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
- 06:44, 22 January 2025 (UTC) ""
- 06:41, 22 January 2025 (UTC) ""
Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:
- 06:50, 22 January 2025 (UTC) "/* Three revert rule */ new section"
- 07:01, 22 January 2025 (UTC) "Notifying about edit warring noticeboard discussion."
Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:
Comments: