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			Who needs an archive when you can just look ?] (]) 13:01, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
	==Ay Bitch==
			Or ?
	Stop changing the Yung D shit. He's an official Member of Hypnotize Minds now
	Look at his Myspace
	http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=324667013
	== My reply ==		==koka==
	Hello, The photo comes originally from me and the family. It was a photograph. Nope I've not downloaded this one. I scanned it and edited ot from my Computer and Uploaded this one <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 04:48, 4 January 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->		mediatraffic. ok sory but i think its's simply intresting. but if u don't wont whot can i do :(. sory. <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 12:30, 31 January 2009 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
			==Notability and Licensing and Independence and Reliability==
	== Headstrong Deluxe is true now! See the source! ==
			I think we have to accept that any reliable guide to Pokemon will have to be licensed. I think it is evidence of notability in itself that so many different publishers license the intellectual property of Nintendo to write pokemon guides and they are published and apparently sell well. Any detailed article about pokemon would have a legal obligation to be licensed or else it would be in violation of copyright law, which I think would make it unreliable. So I do not think it's legitimate to require books about fictional characters to not be licensed in order to be considered independent 3rd party sources. It is the legal obligation of anyone writing about a copyrighted fictional character to get licensing unless they're writing criticism or parody which would not require it. ] (]) 15:28, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
	Hey, this image is true...]. The source is here http://www.ashleymusic.com/holidaypromo/. {{{{{subst|}}}#if:{{{2|}}}|{{{2}}}|Thank you.}} ] 18:18, 1 December 2007 (UTC) <!-- Template:Idw --> ] 19:18, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
			* Thanks for your reply, that was very nice. I think I did not fully convey what I meant. I think it's completely possible for a topic to be notable without having parody or critique written about it specifically. This is especially the case for items that are primarily directed at children, who are less likely to be interested in creating criticism. So that if fifteen different authors write about something, even if they are (as adults) not interested in it themselves (which would lead to criticism or parody) but mainly in the money they can make off kids who are interested in the documented minutia of the subject matter (what does it eat, what are its powers, etc), that still estabilishes notability of the subject matter and is independent enough to be consulted for an article even if it is the only source. Since the only reason it is being licensed is that it would be illegal not to, then I do not think the licensing should discount it. ] (]) 15:49, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
			** WP:N says: " "Independent of the subject" excludes works produced by those affiliated with the subject including (but not limited to): self-publicity, advertising, self-published material by the subject, autobiographies, press releases, etc. " and note 5 says: "Works produced by the subject, or those with a strong connection to them, are unlikely to be strong evidence of interest by the world at large. See also: Misplaced Pages:Conflict of interest for handling of such situations." This shows that the purpose of independence of sources is to be strong evidence of interest by the world at large. And it is true that a single licensed guide would be hardly any evidence of interest by the world - but you note that "licensed" was not one of the affiliations listed by name, and I believe this is because licensing needs to be taken on a case by case basis as to whether it constitutes affiliation. I therefore think my interpretation is legitimate under the current wording of WP:N.
	==PLEASE BE FAIR==
	Please read my post at bcn0209 regarding Digital Reality, Inc. I also notice that you have been involved in speedy delete disputes multiple times and the speedy delete is an aggravating means to accomplish an admittedly important job but please be conscientious, objectionable and interpret Wiki rules more carefully. For example, Wiki does not state in the rules that posting information about companies is necessarily grounds for deletion. In fact the rule on this is quite clear.
	==Thanks==		==Thanks==
			Thanks for informing me of that! I had never seen that page before.] (]) 18:12, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
			==hang on==
	Thanks for the comments in support of the CDC travel links. ] 14:00, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
			you changed my <nowiki>{{hangon}}</nowiki> and sayed it was improper well how to i stop it from being deleted now what do i need to type --] (]) 14:30, 30 October 2008 (UTC)--] (]) 14:30, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
			== Thank You So Much! ==
	==Kudos to you==
			A thousand thanks for you!! And I wouldn't get angry if you'd take it off..Thank you so much. You don't know how much this means to me. I can't believe it! Uhmm...what did that admins said?] (]) 01:15, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
	I know I was originally kinda crabby on the ] page, and I apologize. You've worked very hard in the past few days to try and fix some of the deeper problems with the article and I know it hasn't been easy. Even though I'm part of the paranormal Project, I am an Anthropologist and Folklorist. Topics such as the Oliver, Humanzee and the fascination people continue to have with Ape-human hybrids speak to some very deep issues of personhood, where we all come from, where we are going etc etc. Please know that I support your efforts to keep these articles NPOV, grounded in fact and well sourced. We could use an editor such as yourself over in ]! ;-) ] 00:42, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
	== ] ==		== Gypsy woman ==
			http://en.wikipedia.org/Image:Gypsywomanrare.jpg take a look at this picture! I doubt it's real coz it was from a blog. and when i clicked the blog, it was invalid. could you check it out? ] (])
			== Need your help ==
			Someone just made a single page for ]. And they made a template for him. They even put in that he will have an album soon. Could you help me nominate both for deletion? ] (]) 22:32, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
			Hey the template isn't a bad idea! Why that everybody hates me on Misplaced Pages?
	You seem to misunderstand the purpose of the "See also" section. It is to include '''additional''' links for further reading. Yes, the word ] is important, but it is already used many times in the article and wikilinked in it. You don't list the words ] or ] in "See also", do you? `'] 20:14, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
			] (]) 20:14, 22 October 2008 (UTC)Pedrovip
	OK I see you are a relatively new user. I suggest you to invest some time in reading ], to avoid future similar misunderstandings. `'] 20:16, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
			== Come Back To Me ==
	==Holloway==
			I just made a new page for Come Back To Me on my sandbox. What do you think? http://en.wikipedia.org/User:Kikkokalabud/Sandbox/Come_Back_To_Me_(Vanessa_Hudgens_song) ] (]) 07:38, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
			== Information ==
			I've added new information! ] (]) 03:17, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
			== Finish! ==
			I've finished it! So, what's the nexy step?!] (]) 00:30, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
			== OKIE DOKIE! ==
			Hey, I just half-did it. I'm just searching for a lot of informations!
			] (]) 06:13, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
			==Come Back To Me==
	Thanks for offering. I think what we do is keep reverting her nonsense, making sure we don't each violate the 3RR, and in a couple of days, ask for semi protection again, setting out that HollysMom was a new user, that she was warned (as it seems) by an admin but was cut a break because she is new and ask for semi protection or a block.--] 19:57, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
			Someone just made an article of that page. Unfortunately, Say Ok didn't. I just got a message on my talk page from a Bot thing and it was like "thanks for uploading those pictures" i thought there was a talk to delete that page? ] (]) 10:19, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
	:Is there any point in me getting into this discussion? I think not, but I will if needed.--] 04:49, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
			I was wondering...I found a ton of information about Come Back To Me, Say OK and Sneakernight. I wanted to put it on the album page but it would ruin the page. So I wanted to ask you if you could tell me how to make a discussion if Hudgens' singles would have their own pages since I got tons of information.] (]) 03:53, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
	::FYI, they were so outraged at my edits that they posted my name, my photo, and said I "looked like a perv" at Scared Monkeys bulletin board (run a search for wehwalt on the discussion boards there if you are interested). Also proposed complaining to the Bar because I posted "libel". Nice people.--] 13:07, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
	:::http://127.0.0.1 . Please erase this link once you've looked at it.--] 21:21, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
	== Pagey and his solos ==
			==Re: Singles infoboxes==
	Hi Kww. Yes, you are quite right to challenge me on this. I made a very quick edit to the STH page andf afterwards thought I may be asked for a ref (following). The reason I chopped the edit was it was preposterous to claim that Page always made three recordings and chose the best one in all his songs.
			I'm not sure if Misplaced Pages was a hard guideline on this, but I'd personally go for as a full single infobox sort of clutters the article. Hope that was helpful. ] (]) 22:30, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
			:Agreed. :-) ] (]) 22:38, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
			::I've just come across another issue: adding single covers to album articles isn't non-fair use per ]? ] (]) 00:50, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
			:::I thought so too, but some time ago I had single covers I added to Angie Stone and India.Arie album articles deleted, and these singles didn't have their own articles, so it made me think it all over. ] (]) 00:57, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
			::::Good point, I think I'll use this method from now on whenever I come across cases like those. ] (]) 01:26, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
			== ] ==
	I can only find two refs atm - moved house so it's a bit disorganised - and can't find the bit about agonising but I think it is in one of the Zep biographies I have. Hope this satisfies the three takes on the solo though. (These articles are already refed in the article.)
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			I started a thread here: ]. Would you mind giving input? Thankyou. ] ] 03:50, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
	Quote:
	Back at Basing Street, Richard Digby Smith reckons he saw Jimmy Page get over his lead guitar-break trauma and finish the track: "He did three takes. He didn't use headphones, he monitored the backing tracks through speakers which was how the classical soloists who used that studio did it."
			== You Me At Six ==
	"Bustle in the Hedgerow" by Phil Sutcliffe p64, MOJO, April 2000.
			This is the first time i have edited the article, i deleted the template by mistake, but i must protest the deletion, because they are one of the biggest bands on the Uk scene, and as you can see have been nominated for awards, and this article can be improved drastically within minutes, and it is my intention to do so when i next get a chance today. ] (]) 15:37, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
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			== Misplaced Pages:Requests for checkuser/Case/Extensiontf ==
	GW: You had the guitar solo demoed and ready I presume
			The case page looks alright to me. It seems that some of the CheckUsers are a bit busy at the moment. I'm sure if you ping a CU on IRC, they'll be able to handle your request ASAP. <span style="background:#E0FFFF;color:#007FFF;font-family:Georgia;">] </span><sub>(])</sub> 17:13, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
	PAGE: No, no, not at all. I winged it.
			== Moving ==
	GW: You winged the solo?
			I did warn them the night beforehand; and if you checked, you will find her name has the accent in it.--'''''] (]) (]) (])''''' 13:40, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
	PAGE: Yeah every time
			== re "...intrusion." ==
	GW: Even the call and refrain sections? The overdubs?
			No problem - in fact it is probably a good thing to have the occasional sysop action queried so that I can ensure that my criteria is valid. It is sometimes apparent that when an admin does not care for their actions to be subject to criticism (in the proper sense) otherwise good actions get picked to pieces for not being "perfect". So, if you spot anything else don't hesitate to bring it to my attention. Cheers. ] (]) 22:55, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
	PAGE: Oh you mean the slide buts? That's orchestration. You want to know if I prepared the overall structure of the guitar parts?
			== Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Undefeated (album) ==
	GW: Yes
			Your case is a little tl;dr, which may be why some people think it's not compelling. I do agree with you though, it's a horribly b0rked article. ] and his otters • <sup>(] • ] • ])</sup> 22:50, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
	PAGE: Yes. But not the actual notes, though. But when I came to record the solo, I warmed up and did three of them. They were all quite different from each other.
			*Sorry. tl;dr means "too long; didn't read". ] and his otters • <sup>(] • ] • ])</sup> 22:53, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
			{{talkback|Moonriddengirl|You Me At Six}}
			== Lists and the GNG ==
	GW: You mean there are different solos on the master tape that no one's even heard?
			Based on your comments, I added ], a proposal to "exempt" list-form articles from the GNG. Personally, I think they may actually be covered, but I would appreciate your comments, and it would be useful to see where consensus lies on this issue. ] <small>] </small> 16:28, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
	PAGE: Oh yeah! But the one we used was the best solo, I can tell you that ...
			==Aaliyah/Babygirl==
			Aaliyah was so called Babygirl!A lot of people called her that that was one of her nicknames.Have you realised that in most of every song Timbaland did with her with his rap he says Babygirl?It's true. ] (]) 21:09, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
			{{talkback|Moonriddengirl|You_Me_At_Six}}
	"Light and Shade" by Brad Tolinski with Greg Di Benedetto. Guitar World, Collector's Issue Jan 1988.
			== reply ==
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	Cheers! ] 06:51, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
			There's a lot of junk in the history, and everything's in the archives. ]<nowiki>|</nowiki><sup>]</sup> 20:07, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
	== Bonaire Image Order ==
			== Miley Cyrus ==
	I don't understand your change. I wound up moving that diver image to the top because every time it wasn't the top image, people would come in and delete the ones that came before it so that it would be on top. By just moving it there and retaining the others, I kept the edit cycles down. Why do you feel that it needs to be lower?
	] 15:29, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
	:I changed it because the image caused the article to have a large ugly-looking white space. This is because the text will only begin again when the picture can be shown on the right side of the article, and that is when the table ends. You probably don't see this because you use a low resolution (800x600 for example), but with a resolution of 1152×864 it looks very ugly. Cure to this phenomenon is to group together images and tables, or to place them lower in the text. ] 15:43, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
	::Yeah, I'm happy now :). Cheers! ] 15:52, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
			Turns out one of my friends somehow got my password and did that, not me. Sorry about that, the password has now been changed. <small>]</small>]<sub>'''<small>]'''</small></sub> 03:12, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
	== Re. Rename request for Sint Maarten ==
			==Protection==
	Sure. St. Maarten should be allowed to have its recognizable, official name left alone and not transformed into some new, odd, made-for-wikipedia name space entity. But about the song: it was written in English by Father Kemps, a Dutch priest active on the French side and I believe he wrote ''Saint Martin'', you know. At least that's what they put on in 2005. They use ''Sint Maarten'' here: (and the French sing "Saint Martin, Saint Martin, si jolie en tous ses coins!"). But I believe ''Saint Martin'' is also the correct form in Kemp's original version because it's a song meant to inspire pan-island unity and includes the French side. Notice that the wikilink doesn't work as it is. Cheers, ] 08:35, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
			I completely agree: this is obviously an organized campaign to start a rumor. Block and protect as needed, and watch for sneaky attempts in other places. Thanks, ] ] 03:25, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
			:Done: must have been within seconds of your post on my page. Any idea where they are coordinating this? ] ] 03:41, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
	== Pronunciation of Curaçao ==
			== Miley Cyrus ==
	Hey, thanks for correcting my IPA on Curaçao. I've heard it pronounced rhyming either with "Warsaw" or "Palau" but assumed the former was the prevalent form. Good to have someone living in the Carribean, I'm currently trying to add IPA labels on all possible locations in that region, I'll ask you for advice when in doubt, if that's OK with you. --] 00:54, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
			Instead of deleting everyone's question about it and threatening a full pp, why don't you just post the truth on the talk page? I would think that would be easier, yeah? ] (]) 03:41, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
	:Hi,it's me again with a pronunciation issue. Namely, what is the usual pronunciation of Saint Lucia? Loo-SEE-ya? LOO-sha? Do people in the Carribean pronounce the "Saint" as "saint" or "sn't" like the British do? Thanks for help. --] 21:32, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
			== WTB ==
	::Thanks! That was fast :-) I'll insert that in a sec. If you want to learn more about IPA, you can read ], although transcriptions I see around here are far from consistent. I'll raise the issue of standardizing them on Misplaced Pages when I find out whom to address :-) --] 21:45, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
			Let's throw another sentence in there, then, which gets to the point that the character's fictional experiences are a kind of example introduction to the philosophical (and pseudoscientific) worldview which the filmmakers are advancing. ] (]) 02:56, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
	== Hello ==
	Please understand the dispute at the article 'The Rocky Horror Picture Show" is not personal. It is completely a matter of what should be included.
			: "Her fictional experiences are offered by the filmmakers as an introduction to a philosophical worldview that combines novel, and in some cases scientifically unsupported, ideas about quantum physics and consciousness." ] (]) 03:05, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
	We actualy have a great deal in common and would probably be good friends otherwise. I extend an Olive branch to you. I want to follow Wiki guidlines. I will stick to the outcome of the dispute should it go against my opinion.
			::Good for me! ] (]) 03:29, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
	I was born at Tachakawa AFB in Japan in may of 1963 and have worked in some great hotels. I wish I could own one myself. Sorry if this situation has caused you frustration. --] 21:14, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
	== ] ==		== Suspected sock puppets. ==
			*] was banned from posting any more infomation on this site. Since that was everything I wanted to say, I placed my signature at the end of the comment. Also, since you are looking into the posting history, you can clearly see I placed my signature there after they were banned. Question, If I was HHNRecords, Why whould I disguise my identity if I thought I was posting the comment under the GhostDog21 user name? I know the person HHNRecordsPR, and just like me, they are not with the label either. I'm not sure why they picked that name, dumb idea. That person told me the reason they were banned was due to them having the label name in thier user name, and it seemed like they worked for the label, which is B.S. I noticed on the history of ] and ] that there are user names with the label in them, Heck, there is even an administrator with G-unit in their user name, and they make contributions to the label articles. ] (]) 12:07:19, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
	Hi there - although I'm not the original author of the ] page, I couldn't help noticing that you'd flagged it, and other pages from the same chain of albums, as being spam. I'd be interested to know why you think the articles are spam - to my mind there's little difference between the contents of ] and the contents of, say, ], an album by ]. What particular wording makes you think that the Power Ballads (UK album) article is spam, rather than an entry listing the contents of the CD concerned? ] <sup>(], ]</sup> 13:44, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
			==Article needing attention==
	Thanks for your message - I don't think there's any particular name for those sorts of albums over on this side of the pond, but we definitely have them (a series called "The Greatest XXX album in the world, ever", where XXX is replaced by folk, rock, driving, air guitar, etc., springs to mind). Whilst they're not exactly high art, I don't necessarily agree that they were spam - I appreciate that you only flagged them, and that an administrator agreed - as the criteria for db-spam says, having the product as its subject doesn't necessarily qualify the article for deletion, only inappropriate content. I think we'll have to agree to differ on this one! ] <sup>(], ]</sup> 13:57, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
			I posted about an article in dire need of attention at ]. Dunno if you'd be interested in working on it but I know you as a strong editor of music-related articles. I just can't find the energy or time myself. —] ] 14:00, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
			{{Talkback|Hello Control}}
	== Re: Tamika and the Beast ==
	I've added some more context in the article, but tagged it with the notability tag. <font color="orange">]</font><sup>]</sup> 02:25, 5 July 2007 (UTC)		Kww please look at the talk page on ].I left something important. ] (]) 23:48, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
	== SANGREAL SODALITY ==		== Lohan ==
			I stand corrected. Having never violated BLP, I never needed to know... :P ], who misses ]. 12:46, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
	Hey Kevin
	-- I've made changes which I thought you would love based on our discussion and somehow that seemed to trigger this Eagle guy who is frankly not one I have found reasonable to talk with
			== Notability RfC ==
	Eagle is labeling it a COI and not stating reasons..but he didn't last time he wanted to delete it either.
	Especially with the changes the article is now more scholarly and less advertisement than most occult and magical and fraternal organization listings! Yes it links to the Sangreal website..er..so does every other group link to their main website. I'd really appreciate
			B.6 seems like it could be a viable compromise position with some modification, so I have created a set of notes for improvement/revision (]). I'm attempting to address as many points as possible while maintaining a coherent approach and principle. I believe that I address your concerns in the notes, so I would appreciate your feedback on the notes sandbox talk page to ensure I'm on the ball. Thanks! ] (]) 15:42, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
	1. Your opinion and possibly you could join the talk page (PLEASE)
	2. Your help and advice on what to do if some editor seems hell bent on getting rid of an entry like this and won't even talk. Plus he probably hates my guts because after his failure to talk I did say that he is being inappropriate to him(or her) And frankly I'm now pretty angry. I spend time making changes based on our discussion and another editor deletes and tags it COI.
			==False vandalism charges==
	If the source of the problem is outside Misplaced Pages I should know that and what claims are being made. There is one person who might have problems with the description --.. I and some other contributors have avoided embarrassing the guy to death by actually sharing certain letters from the groups founder written over the past years and shared with his official biographer and the current Warden.
			Hi. Please note the IP on ]. It was on ]. As you can see, these edits *are* vandalisms. Therefore, my warnings against this editor are totally justified. For the sales in the U.S., I don't know if this info is true or false, but this change came from a vandal, and I've supposed it was false. As I see you have reverted my changes, I will request arbitration by a third person. ] (]) 20:45, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
	Hey I know wiki articles can be changed deleted etc..But I do think I deserve more than a TAG and some conversation for all my work on it
			: I'm sorry, but frankly, I have a doubt on your good faith, as, for example, you let ... I've asked an administrator, ], his opinion. ] (]) 21:47, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
			:: The IP has added the entry positions, not the peak positions. For example, the ], that compiles French singles, albums and digital charts, says "Come Back to Me" was #12 on January 2007. See . You can find the same information on (see: "Peak positions" column) and on , with the same chart trajectory. However, the IP user added #15 as peak position. See : . As it was probably a mistake of the IP (he has mixed up the two colums "Entry positions" and "Peak positions"), I think it was not a vandalism of his part, but changes made with good faith. And it's probably the same thing in your case. Sorry. (Nevertheless these chart positions must be corrected). Sincerely. PS: Sorry for my bad English, and if you want, I will correct the chart positions and add references! ] (]) 22:41, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
			== Thanks ==
			For . <strong>]<small>•]</small></strong> 14:30, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
	Thanks
			: Yeah. I was too quick on the block button there. A second later I came to the same conclusion as you, it wasn't really malicious edits. Too often we just communicate in canned templates, without trying to talk to new editors. PS. you're doing a great job of hand-holding now. <strong>]<small>•]</small></strong> 15:27, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
	Renee
	==Speedy==
	Please do not try to use speedy to solve an editing dispute. If there is any possible controversial element to the deletion of an article, and the article talk page for London Action Resource Centre makes it clear that there will be, the method to use is AfD, ''']''' (]) 16:23, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
	==Bleep OR straw poll==		== Fantasy userpages ==
	There is a ] being conducted on the Bleep OR issue. Your input is welcome. ] <small> ] </small> 16:55, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
			Regarding the userpages, if the user is making constructive edits in the encyclopedia, then I'm willing to let them have a little latitude with their user pages. The ones I get on are the ones where their ''only'' edits are to their userpage. I saw a user today who was using his user talk page as a blog, and that's explicitly covered under ]. There's another one I watch who tends to use his userpage for some kind of classroom Survivor standings page; I think one of those pages was sent to MfD. Again, it was once it got to be that he wasn't editing the encyclopedia but was here just for the tracker thing. —''']''' (]) 02:25, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
	Due to continued confusion around the scope of the ], I’ve added a clarification note to say that the poll is primarily meant to see if everyone agrees that a majority of that content identified as unsourced or improperly sourced OR in the ], is indeed OR. Please feel free to change your vote if necessary. Please post a message on ] if any of this is unclear. Thanks for your patience! ] <small> ] </small> 17:52, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
			==Rationale for warning==
	== Watch the A7 criterion ==
			Hey, thanks for pointing it out. I wasn't aware that the user had already been listed at WP:AIV, and had added my warning as a last one before a block was necessary. The warning your provided stated further edits ''may'' result in a block, while the one I provided, was a last resort with ''will'' block. Additionally, it looks like the user has stopped editing so a block is not necessary. However, if any additional edits the user has are not constructive, then he would qualify for being blocked. If you see that the user does so, I'd say post it again or WP:AIV or let me know and I'll block him. Let me know if you need further clarification and happy editing! --] (]) 03:28, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
			==When I Grow Up==
	I hate to say this because you are doing great work with catching these new non-notable articles... but be careful with the A7 criterion. It is not for all non-notable articles, it is specifically only for non-notable "people, groups, companies and web content." The vast majority of your CSD noms seem to be right on the money, but I found at least a couple where you technically misapplied the criteria because it did not apply to one of those four things. In one case I left the db tag in place anyway as per ], but ] really should not have been CSD'd.
			Please stop deleting all the charts on the When I Grow Up page. They're all accurate and they are of importance. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 18:54, 17 September 2008 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
	Cheers, and happy new page patrolling! --] 21:58, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
			Ok but how do you get a peak of #2 for Sweden? <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 20:05, 17 September 2008 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
	::Hey, don't worry, I'd never heard of that rapper either. ;D I'm a little iffy on the validity of Misplaced Pages articles about upcoming albums, etc. anyway (if you wanna see a train-wreck, check out ], particularly ) --] 15:40, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
			alright i understand but how come you won't let the UWC be on the discography page or any of the others? <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 16:15, 20 September 2008 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
	== OneCleveland ==
			==PCD==
	Well my advice is to bring it up on the ] messege board because I really have no clue...Im not going to get into that because it was not my idea and I was just helping my WikiProject out...] 22:55, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
			Thanks for the heads up! I fixed it, with a !! :) <span style="font-family:papyrus;">]]</span> 21:51, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
	==Spiritual QP==		== Oh please ==
	LOL! , You're right! I wasn't paying enough attention! Thanks for reverting my blunder! Funny! &ndash; ] <small> ] </small> 23:16, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
			Number 1, frankly, it doesn't concern you, so I would appreciate it if you would mind your own business. #2, I moved MY comment, not his. I never touched his. #3, putting comments like that happens all the time (it happened on the Main Page talk for example). You can back up whoever you want to, but please do not stick your nose in other people's business unless you are specifically asked. Thank you. ] (]) 12:06, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
	==2the Max==
	Please undelete the ] article. You should at least notifying the author and relative projects before submiting any deletion request. It is ridiculous to not letting other to improve before any furthur actions. &mdash; ] (]) 03:51, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
			=="just a hair"==
	:I really wonder you and admin completely ignore the notability guideline. In the guideline, it has clearly written that:
			Don't even worry about it, no offense taken, I understood. - ] (]) 19:59, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
	{{quote|If an article fails to cite sufficient sources to demonstrate the notability of its subject, look for sources yourself,6 or:
			:Regardless, what he is doing now is unacceptable. He just reverted "When I Grow Up" again and I gave him a final. - ] (]) 20:14, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
	Ask the article's creator for advice on where to look for sources.
	Put the <nowiki>{{notability}}</nowiki> tag on the article to alert other editors. To place a dated tag, put a <nowiki>{{subst:dated|notability}}</nowiki> tag.
	If the article is about a specialized field, use the <nowiki>{{expert-subject}}</nowiki> tag with a specific WikiProject to attract editors knowledgeable about that field, who may have access to reliable sources not available online.}}
			==2008-present==
	:Have your look for sources yourself?
			She got to present, which is 2008. If she got to 2009 or so, it'd be altered, the same way a larger number of episodes will be added as having her participation, as well as other movies and actualizations. ] (]) 17:11, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
	:Have you ask the article's creator?
	:Have you put the notability tag or expert-subject tag?
	:I cannot see you follow the procedure stated in the guideline.
			Why not?... There isn't an automatic database backing things up for anything else either, that's absurd!... What's the difference?... Like I said, as for the rest, if any other alteration is verified it shall be done. In case you don't know, Misplaced Pages is a continuous work!... ] (]) 17:18, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
	:I am really disappointed that even an administrator agrees with you so carelessly. I also hope you can follow the consensus and the guideline.
	:&mdash; ] (]) 15:09, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
			Every article in question!... If you're that lazy or undevoted!... I don't see people on IMDb complainting, they'd have gone on strike by now!... ] (]) 17:22, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
	In the guideline (Misplaced Pages:Criteria for speedy deletion)
	{{quote|Non-notable subjects with their importance asserted: Articles that have obviously non-notable subjects are still not eligible for speedy deletion unless the article "does not assert the importance or significance of its subject". If the article gives a claim that might be construed as making the subject notable, it should be taken to a wider forum. However, articles with only a statement like "This guy was like so friggin' notable!" can be deleted for lacking context, because it gives no context about the subject.}}
			First, don't '''ever''' tell me to ''stop''. It's my trouble, not yours!... I don't complaint!... And why do you alter it yourself anyway?... Army brat!... ] (]) 17:29, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
	When you said it because of notability, please follow the procedure in ]. The article has asserted that the product is sold to multiple nation and important product. I think you never carefully read the given link and even do a web search on the subject. I know I can recreate the article in a minute, but I hope you can follow the notability guide before putting any tag. &mdash; ] (]) 16:17, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
			==RE Foreign Languages Skills==
	==Re:Let me make this perfectly clear ==
	kww, sorry for making you feel comfortable, but, it is necessary. I appreciate your effort to read 2000 articles a day. On the other hand, I noticed that you have involved in several disputes on speedy delete recently. You should not be amazed that more contributors would take this kind of matter seriously if you continue to ignore the consensus made, namely guideline. You have joined Misplaced Pages for 7 months and you might be eager to do some administrative works, maybe later run for administratorship. My recommendation is, before you do administrative works, read relevant guideline. Deletion and notability are two of most controversial matters in Misplaced Pages. To read and applying the guidelines carefully do help you to avoid unnecessary disputes. ] 05:08, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
			Please see ]. Non-English references not preferred.--] (]) 14:24, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
	:I'll try one more time. There is nothing wrong with speedy deletion, and yet speedy deletion is essential. But it require to follow the deletion and notability guideline. People usually get disputed when they do not like to admit they are too lazy to follow the guidelines. &mdash; ] (]) 15:37, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
	== RHPS ==		== Webkinzman ==
			Thanks. I was about to make an ANI report but I'll see what happens with your request. ] (]) 20:13, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
	"He didn't just cut the nerves to the frontal lobes of Eddie's brain"
			:I'm working on an ANI report. You might want to comment after I post it. I'll let you know when I finish. Thanks. ] (]) 18:28, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
	Show-off. :P ] 01:22, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
			:Correction: I'm starting at AIV just to see. That would be faster. If that doesn't work I'll move it over to ANI. In the meantime, if you wish, you might give him another level 4 just so there'll be a fresher warning for the AIV folks. Thank. ] (]) 18:31, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
	== RHPS cast ==
			::You've probably already seen, but he got a three-day block and stern warning. Thank goodness we didn't have to do ANI. Thanks for your help. ] (]) 19:30, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
	Amadscientist has disagreed with the inclusion of the cast. If you could voice your opinion I'd appreciate it. ] 01:58, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
			== RE: Lil Wayne talk page ==
	Just a note that, though you added the cast section back, you didn't remove it from the infobox (that is, replace it with the short one with only four cast members). I think everyone involved can agree that having both include the complete cast is redundant, no? ] 02:43, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
			Ehh, not sure. There seems to be some occasional legitimate discussion taking place, and the IPs have to edit somewhere, right? As long as there are people reverting the vandalism, we should be fine. ]''']''' 09:14, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
	== MotivAction, LLC ==
			== Miss Independent (album) AfD ==
	The criteria and guidelines for proving the notability of an article are vague. The references included in the current iteration of this article are reputable and factual and have been provided in good faith. If they do not qualify, then please provide more specific guidance so that I can be sure to include appropriate references in the article. Thank you kindly. ] 21:21, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
	:Actually, they aren't all that murky. ] provides an overall guideline. The problem you had the last time was simple: it doesn't count as a reference if the person mentioning you is being paid to mention the subject. If you work for MotivAction, one question to ask yourself is "Why hasn't somebody else written an article about my company?" If the answer is "because no one outside the company thinks it's interesting", then you haven't achieved notability. ] 21:45, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
	(Copied from ] ] ] 16:40, 4 August 2007 (UTC))
			I have amended your AfD nomination at ] by adding a second, related article. ] is the alleged first single off the album. I think it makes the most sense to hit both articles with one AfD. Nobody else has commented, so I don't think it alters the process. Let me know if you have any problems with this. —''']''' (]) 14:48, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
	==DaFont Article==
	Hey Kww,
			:I see Kurt Shaped Box gave ] an indefinite block tonight. I've noted that on the AfD; the article may be blatant enough information that it's speedy deletable. —''']''' (]) 00:33, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
	I noticed you tagged the ] article as a candidate for deletion. Please read my response ]. If you're satisfied with it, then we can settle the issue quickly and painlessly. :)
			== Pedrovip ==
	<span style="font:bold 11px Arial;display:inline;border:#000066 1px solid;background-color:#ECF1F7;padding:0 4px 0 4px;">]</span><sup>]</sup> 08:48, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
			I've chimed in with a comment at ], so it appears he's accepted that user talk pages are where incoming comments from other editors should be added. —''']''' (]) 14:59, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
	== Just a gentle reminder ==
			== About Miss Independent edit ==
	In response to your 3RR complaint, I blocked ] several days ago for his reverting on ]. Since then he has resorted to meatpuppetry and had the block extended to a month.
			Well, I just add the correct name of the song "I'm Back"...because the song just has leaked on internet. Only it. ] (]) 15:02, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
			== United World Chart ==
	So he may well not be troubling you for a while. However, I noticed ] and thought it only fair to remind you that, as exasperating as dealing with him may have been, you are still obliged to ]. OK? That's all. ] 00:44, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
			I don't see how it's an unreliable chart. Let me put this in capital letters LOOK HOW MUCH OTHER UNRELIABLE CHARTS ARE ON SONG ARTICLES WHICH YOU GUYS DON'T TAKE OFF OTHER THAN THE UNITED WORLD CHART (not shouting) which is what you think is unreliable. And I don't see how it's vandalism either, and why must you intervene in my conversation with Yeahhboy. People should know how well a song does across the globe or how big of a worldwide hit it is. But I can never get through you guys, you guys just don't understand and blah, blah, blah, whatever about the dumb rules. ] (]) 05:44, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
	== Scrooge ==		== Image policy ==
			I left you a reply on my talk page. Please help out with the image problems for Aaliyah so you can help to restore the rest of my ], as soon as you can! :) ] (]) 04:52, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
			==re: Webkinzman==
	Did you see the to-do list for the article and the question any information on which characters he might be based on? I want to improve that article. By putting the statement there I can attract attention. If I have to find the info my myself this search is doomed. I'm a moderate Scrooge fan. I read the Carl Barks library, I have Thomas Andreae recent book but that's it. What can you contribute?
			Hi, thanks for the update. Sorry I didn't jump on it sooner. - ] (]) 14:30, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
			==Hot 100==
			What parade I put????--] (]) 16:27, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
			I know hot 100 brasil does't put,but what parade I put in brazil???--] (]) 16:35, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
			Chek this link http://www.jovempanfm.com.br/paradas/50mais2007.php is the parada brasil in radio jovem pan--] (]) 16:48, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
			Jovem pan is an important radio in Brasil about hit's!!!--] (]) 18:03, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
			This radio is radio ''airplay''!!--] (]) 20:10, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
			Ok what parade I will put????--] (]) 21:04, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
	== Pardon me ==		==Block==
			You've been blocked 24 hours and I've removed your rollback rights, you can ask for them back later, for using rollback in an edit war, on ]. Rollback should only be used to rv vandalism and similar edits. Having it means you can be trusted with it and using it in an edit war is abuse of it on both counts. <span style="font-family: verdana;"> — ] • ] • </span> 00:31, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
			== RE: ANI, AIV, acronyms unite ==
	You misspelled "vandalizing". If you insist on wasting my time further, I suggest you first learn to spell.
			Hey there! I'm glad we have a chance to talk, because I think you misunderstand the issue. It's not that everyone has a desire to discuss things (though I certainly prefer that route), but rather, at that time, I and another administrator did not see reasonable grounds to block Jdxboom. Some administrators probably would've issued a block, but only the trigger-happy ones. This way, we got to see if he was truly going to make an issue of this; then he was blocked. So you see, it's not an issue of too much discussion, but rather just the time which you reported him at.
			<br>
			P.S. Since you're blocked, it's fine if you reply here. Cheers, ] ] 00:37, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
			:Ah, I didn't understand the nature of it I guess; I glanced at the contributions list and didn't see any reason for concern. My apologies, this is truly a one-in-a-million mistake. Cheers, ] ] 01:31, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
	== List of lists that list lists of list lists ==
	''I noticed on a few AFD discussions that you seem to feel the same way about massive lists that I do. I just stumbled across this mindnumbing category: http://en.wikipedia.org/Category:Lists_of_schools_by_country
	which contains links to 72 lists that just have no reason to exist. Somehow, I don't think submitting 72 independent AFDs is the right procedure. Any advice as to how to proceed? ] 16:07, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
	''
	:Damn... You're right, there's to much of this around to eradicate it all with AfDs. Besides, some kid will eventually come back and re-list his or her school again. I honestly don't know what action to take here. I'm still a relative newb and I don't know whom to address to propose a radical change in policy that ] warrants IMO. I thought maybe an automatic listing of recently created articles beginning with "List of" on a separate, heavily patrolled page would make it easier to shoot them at sight. (Preferably together with another pet peeve of mine, "...in popular culture" articles). The overwhelming majority of ordinary schools is patently not notable - articles about them, and lists of them, would be a ] offense if I had my way. I reckon a very hefty proportion of all time-consuming AfDs are this type of articles. However, I can't really throw my weight around to get things done because I don't have any. A lot of things still bother me on Misplaced Pages and even make me regularly consider quitting, but as a newb I'm unlikely to be taken seriously. --] 18:56, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
	:I can't think of an action to take either. A massive AfD would be far too time consuming. ] • <sup>(]•]•])</sup> 19:28, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
	::It seems that all of you do not seem to understand that the reason for the existence of lists like this is to aid (together with the Category mechanism) in creating another way to find information by creating a lateral and/or hierarchical browsing mechanism, supplementing the normal hyperlink mechanism. ] 00:05, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
	== Thanks! ==		== Unblock request ==
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			'''Your request to be unblocked''' has been '''granted''' for the following reason(s):
	Thanks for typo fixes in my ].--] 12:19, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
			<br><br>my error, I missed the copyvio part, I have restored rollback, my apologies
			''Request handled by:'' <span style="font-family: verdana;"> — ] • ] • </span> 00:58, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
			<!-- Request accepted (after-block request) -->
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			== Lindsay Lohan ==
	== I was told to put the image back ===
			I'm still skeptical about things being sourced from MySpace on this article, but that wasn't, and isn't, the fundamental issue. The issue is, as they have it, there is ''no'' source given for the statements about Lohan calling Palin . That is a rather large ] issue. There are sources given at a later, relatively innocuous statement that Lohan criticized media coverage and urged voting for Obama. That isn't much of a ] issue. It goes much further than MySpace good or MySpace bad. It's a liability as it is in the link above. ] (]) 07:59, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
	For the Ashley Tisdale Image, in my last message i got, i was told to put it back, so i will do as instructed.] 13:47, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
	== Mark Tinley ==		== Britney Spears ==
	Because I've communicated with him, I have reason to believe he will do better with communication and patience, and I intend to watch what he does closely. If he misbehaves, I can and will take care of it myself. &mdash; ]\<sup>]</sup> 17:24, 13 September 2007 (UTC)		Before posting a reply, just look what i said for that picture edit. I specifically said that it is temporary and should be immediately removed once a brand new picture of Britney is uploaded which is a recent one and a press cutting, not a fan-art. --] (]) 12:08, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
			Thanks, I did not know that this was a forum: http://jbbs.livedoor.jp/bbs/read.cgi/music/3914/1044805378/582 --] (]) 19:07, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
	== Re: ] ==
			==semi-Circus==
	Re : I blocked that particular editor for spamming as you can see in their . -- ] 18:28, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
			I was just thinking the same thing, actually. - ] (]) 17:26, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
			==re:Ilikestella==
	== ] ==
			I ''already'' gave a final this morning, plus there were several other warnings in between yours and mine. I blocked - enough is enough, really. - ] (]) 18:45, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
			== ] ==
	I was in the middle of editing the article when I saw the template. What gives?--] (] • ]) 16:43, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
	: I am busy getting it in the style of the other characters so please bear with me.--] (] • ]) 16:46, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
			Thanks for alerting me about this. I knew that revealing personally identifiable information is bad, especially on a place like Misplaced Pages, so I used the template in question. When I saw how it was worded, I wanted to try and clear it up as best as I could. Guess it didn't make too much sense, but thanks for helping. I greatly appreciate it. :) --(])--(])--(])-- 04:06, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
	== Eurominuteman 3RR ==
	Thanks! I was thinking of making that change, but since I didn't make the initial report, thought I'd leave it as is. Perhaps I'll suggest that to the editor who made the report. Thanks for the notice! ] <small>]</small> 23:55, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
			== User:Soapfan06 ==
	:I took your advice and changed the versions to diffs myself...thanks for the nudge in the right direction...! ] <small>]</small> 00:17, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
			I'm having trouble with who never uses edit summaries when removing content from ]. Be on the look out. Thanks. ] ] 06:00, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
	::Hey, it worked too..finally got the block! ] <small>]</small> 17:31, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
			== RfA nom ==
	Yung_D. No clue, it's a protected article transcluded into the Main page. What's the problem with it? ] <small>]</small> 00:40, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
	:Oh, yeah..I see...I thought it was just a weird name they had. I'll check. ] <small>]</small> 01:16, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
	::I figured it out. It was a redirect. Interesting puzzle..! Got any more? ] <small>]</small> 01:21, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
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	== TfD nomination of ]==
			'''] would like to nominate you to become an administrator.''' Please visit ] to see what this process entails, and then ] to accept or decline the nomination. A page {{#ifexist:Misplaced Pages:Requests for adminship/{{BASEPAGENAME}}|has been created|will then be created}} for your nomination at ''']'''. If you accept the nomination, you must state and sign your acceptance. You may also choose to make a statement and/or answer the optional questions to supplement the information your nominator has given. Once you are satisfied with the page, you may post your nomination for discussion, or request that your nominator do so.</div>
			Go get going already. Cheers, ]! 04:23, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
	] has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at ]. Thank you.<!--Template:Tfdnotice--> — ] 19:42, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
			: Hi Kevin, so as background I spent a lot of the first five-six months of 2007 "in the trenches" at AFD and I often came away not very happy about the project. I was never involved in many fiction AFDs, that I can recall. The thing about Bulbasaur is that it always seemed impossible to ''even find'' this sort of article unless you were looking for the information in it. But for reasons that I don't comprehend, these articles instill not just passion but ''rage''. And it spilled over into this horrid war. The highly-partisan notability wars left a very bitter taste in my mouth. TTN could do no wrong. LGRdC could do no right. All the socking made me ill. I remember Jack Merridew was a nice guy to me, even helped me fix up my user page, but when it was revealed he was a sockpuppet, virtually none of the editors who had fought on Jack's side apologized to the editor who exposed the sockpuppetry. The uninvolved admin who brought it to the noticeboards was also savaged without apology, as I recall. (I seem to remember you were one of the fair-minded ones in this, but the episode illustrated to me how ridiculous the partisanship had gotten.) When I saw your name at RFA I remembered the months of bitterness. I looked through your Misplaced Pages and Misplaced Pages Talk edits for the last couple months, and saw that a huge number of them were still around these issues. Mostly the RFC and TTN, true. I'll be honest, I didn't consider that the RFC is very much disengaged from the day-to-day trenches, and I think it's a fair point. But the first diff of yours I clicked on was one where Phil Sandifer said he felt like his proposal was getting a toxic reception and your one line response was that the only toxicity was coming from Phil. It looked like more of that horns-locked, bitter and unproductive partisanship to me. --] (]) 16:20, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
	== AFD ==
			== Need help on Natalee nomination ==
	I think your understanding of AFD may be a little skewed. Just because an article may be filled with OR, doesn't mean that it can't be fixed. Saying that the present content of an article is original research isn't really a valid reason to delete the article. - ] 09:46, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
			I left the below on AuburnPilot's talk page, however he emailed me from his blackberry that his internet is down. Can you manage it? The vacancy will occur sometime between now and midnight Greenwich (I think 9 pm your time). Usually, Raul puts it in later in the day, within a couple of hours of the witching hour. I'm using a computer in a public library in England, and odds are I won't be on when it happens. If worst comes to worst, there's another vacancy when the Oct 9 article clears. Anyway, here is what I wrote him:
	== Edits/reverts ==
	Misplaced Pages is about editing. Some edits go unchanged some are reverted. That is simply the name of the game here. Neither one of us likes the other but I am not immature enough to liable you with remarks like you have left on my page. I do not revert everyone else's edits. Request for me to stop editing Misplaced Pages....denied. ] <small>—Preceding ] comment was added at 20:15, 25 September 2007 (UTC)</small><!--Template:Undated--> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
			*I suggest that we nominate as soon as Raul schedules October 3. For the quickest word, I suggest watching here. Then replace noitulovE with the code you will find in my sandbox (there is a link at the bottom of my user page). Nominate on behalf of Kww or yourself and claim 5 points. I am in Europe right now with limited internet access or I would do it myself. If we don't, I think the Grand Prix article will be nominated and we will have to replace the fairly popular U.S.S. New Jersey, which could lead to spite opposes.--] (]) 11:35, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
	== =="mistakenly" is not the same as "accidentally"== ==
			==Brandy Norwood==
	The thesaurus disagrees with you. See: http://encarta.msn.com/thesaurus_561567881/by_mistake.html Please, in the future, before you edit relevant, cited information, look into the basis behind your reasoning. Oh, by the way, I reworded the paragraph to give a more accurate idea of what happened and DID use mistaken since that is the word that is used in the ref. Though they are synonyms so either would be acceptable. Thanks for the thought, though. - ] 05:23, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
			I did not add a picture to her page. I only moved them around, so you are sending messages to the wrong person. As far as my talk page, you don't have any proof of any of your accusations, so stay off my page. ] ''(])'' 01:01, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
	== A7 ==
			==RFA==
	The idea of a ten day delay in speedy deletes fills me with horror - it's a terrible terrible idea. --] 14:08, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
			Sorry I got confused, it was the other way round, I've changed my position to support. Sorry for the inconvenience. Regards ] (]) 20:10, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
	== How to==
	to nominate at AFD: follow the directions at ]. After you save after adding the <nowiki>{{subst:afd1}}</nowiki> template to the top. Edit again and add " (2nd nomination)" after "cupcaking" to read "Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/cupcaking (2nd nomination)", save. Follow the link to create the debate at that name, and add that name to the daily log (all set out at the template that appears on the cupcaking page. Try it first and if you have trouble I'll do it for you, but it's always a better learning experience to try it yourself - you really can't do any damage by accident, so don't worry, be ]. ] 00:36, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
			*Hi Kww, I've responded on my talk page. Best wishes. ] 21:12, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
	== Kosovo massacres ==
			==re:Ilikestella==
	How was my move unjustified? There isn´t anything substantial on that article besides the list.] 12:39, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
			Understood, but to me this is someone who clearly has no regard for any policies whatsoever and ignores any communication left on his talk page. Note he was blocked for 48 hours because of the Brazil information he kept adding to music articles, then once his block expired he went right to a discography page and added Brazil. Aside from the bunch of "got milk?" images he uploaded, his Talk Page is ''filled'' with prior image copyright problem templates. I certainly don't expect editors to have every Misplaced Pages policy memorized, but this editor in particular has been around for months and obviously doesn't care to at least read the page(s) about image use. - ] (]) 11:40, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
			:Don't even worry about it - RfAs are tough and rather flawed in my opinion, but there ya go. We just have different approaches to how we would have handled this editor and that's fine. I just feel that it is extremely unfair when a specific editor constantly requires other people to clean up after them, especially if s/he makes no effort to learn how to do it correctly... whether they read guidelines or just reach out to someone to ask for help.
			:Anyhoo, if your RfA doesn't pass just take in all the comments, process it and go for it again in a few months. - ] (]) 12:18, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
	== Chicag ball ==		== TTN ==
			You should be aware that the TTN situation is being discussed at ]. So far, there is no consensus that TTN's recent behaviour is disruptive.&mdash;](]) 21:39, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
			:Got archived a few minutes ago. Now .&mdash;](]) 02:28, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
			::Thank you for the notice(s). They were informative. - ] 09:17, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
	That's why I added ] as another ground for closing the AFD. After four speedy deletions of the predecessor (and identical) article ] by four different administrators, I feel pretty confident about this one. Thanks, ] 23:08, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
			== {{user|Zachri29}} ==
	==Follow the rules==
	And establish the notability of the section instead of blindly inserting pov into the article. Misplaced Pages is an encyclopedia and not a gossip rag. ] 23:40, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
			Blocked for a week. I just don't see why people continue to do that... ] (]) 15:34, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
	==AfD on ]==
	Hi there, the article has been changed substantially since your vote so you might want to have another look at the new version. All the best ] 16:01, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
	==The Rocky Horror Picture Show==
	In view of ] and ], please consider adding references to the songs listed at the AfD. -- ]]/] 19:07, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
	== ] ==		== ScienceApologist ==
			To be honest, I haven't interacted significantly with SA for months. I get the impression his civility issues have improved a fair bit, but I honestly don't feel able to judge either. I'm sure, if there's problems, that there's plenty of people to bring them up. ] (]) 03:37, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
	Hey there. I just started ] on our mutual acquaintance. Since you also expressed reservations at his contributions, you might want to chime in. &mdash;&nbsp;]&nbsp;<sup>]</sup> 03:24, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
	:I'm somewhat concerned about . You seem to imply that we should revert all 8567 edits that ] has made to wikipedia. This is ludicrous, and shows that you have not consulted this user's contributions (first one was on ]). If you attempt to do this, you will be blocked for disruption, and that certainly wouldn't be impetuous. ] ] 17:39, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
			== Your RfA ==
	::Kww has suggested no such thing, Physchim62. There's no reason for you to threaten him with a block. I know you're upset, but you still need to ]. Please, ] and we'll figure out how to resolve this situation at ]. - ] <sup>]</sup> 18:32, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
			You did the right thing in stating your position on sourcing. The fact that people are opposing you on makes me not want to bother editing here any more, and it's certainly why I don't interact with most Wikipedians. You've got my support vote, whenever you want to try again. --<span style="color:#FFF8E7; background:#333399;">&nbsp;'''Logical'''&nbsp;</span><span style="background:#E6E6FA;">''']'''</span><sup>]</sup> 20:55, 6 October 2008 (UTC) <small>(Death to unreferenced stuffs!)</small>
	== Dammit, Janet! ==
			{{talkback|Hello Control}}
	I just tagged the article, and left my arguments on the talk page. Look it over and see if I missed something, or add your two cents. --] 09:51, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
	:::I have corrected my statement at the Deletion review. You are right that i got mixed up about who said what in the many exchanges ''']''' (]) 17:32, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
			== Your message ==
	==]==
	You have been named in a request for arbitration titled Sadi Carnot. Please visit ] and consider making a statement per the instructions there. Thank you. - ] <sup>]</sup> 00:42, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
			Blocked indef. As for the block, I'm pretty sure it's in effect. I'm not sure why the rangeblock finder seems to work for every block except that range. ] (]) 09:11, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
	==]==
	Hello,
			== Thank you! ==
	An Arbitration case involving you has been opened: ]. Please add any evidence you may wish the Arbitrators to consider to the evidence sub-page, ]. You may also contribute to the case on the workshop sub-page, ].
	On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, ]<sup>(])</sup> 19:10, 29 October 2007 (UTC) ]<sup>(])</sup> 19:10, 29 October 2007 (UTC)		I'm new to this AfD thing...thank you for your assistance! ] (]) 17:54, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
			== Pedrovip's images ==
	==Re: Possible Sadi Carnot sock/meatpuppet==
	Replied on my talk page. ] 14:47, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
	:I noticed the arbcom checkuser section. Do you think you could leave a note for ] about this? I'm not 100% sure about the etiquette in difficult cases like this, but it would seem like the right thing to do. ] 17:30, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
			I'm inclined to agree about the images, especially the Headstrong one. The only way I can see him claiming copyright is if he did the mashup, but even then, there are underlying rights held by the label, so the image isn't usable. I think you're on the right track, giving him a few more days to see how (if) he responds. I don't remember MSoldi's edit history off the top of my head, but I certainly agree that this isn't new behaviour. —''']''' (]) 01:43, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
	==Humanzee==
	Come up with some sources. ] 17:18, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
	:For the pop culture section which should be deleted. ] 17:23, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
	:For movies, novels, etc., a reliable source would have to have commented that a humanzee or similar appears in the novel, movie, etc. ] 18:01, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
			My images was only to try. I never uploaded a image. Wait, there is more. My image "Cisco Adler.jpg" is not copyrighted.
	:It might be best to spin it off into its own article, and then wait for somebody to nominate it for deletion. :) ] 18:44, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
			] (]) 16:16, 8 October 2008 (UTC)Pedrovip
	There is a purpose for the "trivia" tag. It is used all over the place. I'd rather not have it removed. If you want to go ahead and remove it, I won't edit war, but I don't think it's right to remove it. ] 18:51, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
			:I just took an image out of the Sneakernight infobox because of the copyright issue. The other two userboxes, at the time I looked, had CC images. —''']''' (]) 16:37, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
	== Sadi Carnot arbitration case ==
			::If you think they're obvious copyvios, tag them for speedy deletion (I9, blatant infringement, or I3, wrong license tag). If they're borderline, send them to IfD—though it wouldn't surprise me if half of them get speedied. —''']''' (]) 02:46, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
	Do you think you and Physchim62 could cool it a little bit at the arbitration case? You should both concentrate on Sadi Carnot's behaviour and not so much on the behaviour of you two. Although the arbitrators will look at that if it is warranted, at the moment it is a bit unsightly to see you two throwing proposals at each other on the workshop page. Cross-posted to ], and clerk notified. ] 19:28, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
	:Hopefully you can both broker a truce yourself. You are right that Physchim62's unblock is part of the arbitration case, but please don't bring his subsequent behaviour towards you into the case. It would be best to limit things to what happened at the time. If you are unhappy with Physchim62's actions towards you, please try and raise that separately with Physchim62. ] 22:08, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
	::The best approach here is to focus entirely on Sadi and ignore any comments directed at you personally. The arbitrators are not going to be paying the slightest attention to these retaliatory measures and making any response to them will only lower your credibility. This isn't a particularly pleasant aspect of Misplaced Pages, you have my sympathies in being plunged into it so quickly after joining! ] 16:59, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
	:Sometimes fighting isn't the best way of winning, as on Misplaced Pages your audience is frequently more important than your opponent. If you stay calm, stay focused and remain scrupulously polite, even under much more serious attacks than in this case, people will look at your situation in a very supportive manner. ] 17:43, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
			==A thought==
	== Ashley Tisdale image ==
			]
			Please allow me to remind you of the number of supporters your RfA thread did attract. It would be easy to over-value those critical or neutral observations in this context. Your evaluation of constructive criticism needs to remain balanced. You shouldn't under-value the judgment of those who were favorably impressed. --Tenmei
			:Responding to your subtle and familiar choice of words in the best of all possible worlds: ''See'' this link to ]'s 70th birthday frolic -- ] sings In my view, the best part of this ] excerpt is the enthusiastic delight of Bernstein himself at the end of the clip; and perhaps this becomes a good context in which to remind you that ] was not at all well-received when the operetta first appeared on Broadway in 1956. --] (]) 14:36, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
			== Holloway edit ==
	Regarding ]: how do you know this to be a free image? Is the person who uploaded the image to flickr the photographer who took the image? —''']''' (]) 02:14, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
			Sorry about the result of the RFA and thanks for the gracious message.
	== Damnit, Kww.....erm, Janet! ==
			Would you look at this diff and see if it makes sense? Dutch is Greek to me, and as I recall from the FAC (I think), this was your source.--] (]) 07:53, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
	Okay, said my peace like you asked. Even provided a arguement from another Wikiproject. If this gets nastier, i'm gonna throw it to Wikiproject Songs and let them in on the debate.--] 11:43, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
			== Your RFA==
	: Ask for the articles in question, no rebuttal. Ask even for any mentions of rocky Horror, nothing. Win? --] (]) 04:13, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
			Best wishes for your RFA...( altough the result this time doesnt seem good ) -- ] ] - 09:03, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
			== RfA comment ==
	== John254 and the talk page reversions ==
			Hello! As per your message on my Talk Page: "I'm going to try to interpret this resounding defeat as a statement that I should choose my words more carefully in the future, and remember that every statement I make gets recorded forever, just waiting to get carefully transcribed onto my next RFA." No, you did not fail -- the system failed you. And the people who picked apart isolated verbiage to create a phony history of your work have done a huge disservice to this project. There's nothing wrong with you -- keep up the great work. ] (]) 10:13, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
	I've removed the report from ] that you made, since no warnings had been given to {{lu|John254}} on his talk page. Additionally, there is an open incident at WP:AN/I, opened by John254 about talk page spamming by another user: ]. That is probably the better place to report/discuss this user's behaviour, not on AIV. —''']''' (]) 03:44, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
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			==Your RfA==
	I think you misread this one. The claim the song is to be released as a single is a rumor. The song itself already exists and is in no way crystal-ballery. You might want to adjust or withdraw the nomination. - ]|] 22:39, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
			On this occasion, your request for adminship was not successful. I hope that you will continue your useful contributions to Misplaced Pages and may consider standing again in future. Remember, a majority of editors commenting did support your candidature. ] '']'' 11:41, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
			*Pity. I suggest that, over the next few months, you provide evidence of your ability to hold a well argued viewpoint while still being able to act impartially according to consensus. With such examples the next run at adminship should be considerably easier. Thanks for the thanks. ] (]) 12:34, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
			== All is for the best, in this, the best of all possible worlds ==
	==]==
			I'm sorry it worked out that way. It is true though, that you will be more knowledgeable and experienced in 6 months time. It will also give you time to clarify how you feel about things. In any consensus based discussion, make sure all you write is firmly based in the polices and guidelines. Take time to help you users. A firebrand or zealot, however well-intentioned, is more likely to abuse the tools than someone who is patient with newbie mistakes, who looks to improve rather than delete, looks to buid/expand rather than fault find. Anyone who made it all the way through ''Luceifer's Hammer,'' and who quotes Voltaire probably has the native intelligence to learn the nuances of the mop-and-bucket ''cum'' ratchet set. Cheers, ]] 13:36, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
	This arbitration case has now closed and the decision may be found at the link above. ] is banned for one year, and the remaining parties are encouraged to "move forward from this unfortunate incident with a spirit of mutual understanding and forgiveness". For the arbitration committee, ]<sup>(])</sup> 12:13, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
	==Bleep==
	Take it to the talk page please, no further reverts. It is clear from all the writing on this movie that there are documentary style inteviews (non-fiction) that go along with a fictional narrative. ] <small>]</small> 20:49, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
			Check the quote on my ]. Definitely not the best of all possible worlds, but... the possibilities... ] (]) 17:32, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
			This is why I have no ambition to be an admin, or to take responsibility on WP for anything more than my own work. The points that were brought up against you struck me as unjust and downright silly in many cases.--] (]) 20:23, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
	==3RR==
	{{{icon|] }}}You currently appear to be engaged in an ]{{{{{subst|}}}#if:What the Bleep Do We Know|&#32; according to the reverts you have made on ]}}. Note that the ] prohibits making more than three reversions in a content dispute within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the ]. If you continue, you may be ] from editing. Please do not repeatedly revert edits, but use the talk page to work towards wording and content that gains a ] among editors. {{{{{subst|}}}#if:{{{2|}}}|{{{2}}}|}}<!-- Template:uw-3rr --> ] <small>]</small> 22:55, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
			== You deserve it ==
	:You have made three reverts to the article per ], . One more and you will be blocked. I find to be a ]. It's unjustified and unwarranted. I recommend you retract it. ] <small>]</small> 23:04, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
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	::You said "I have not been reverting the same material or to the same version at any time", let me refer you to ] which states:
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			|style="vertical-align: middle; border-top: 1px solid gray;" | For tireless work which is obviously not appreciated enough. ] (]) 20:25, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
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			== Re: double redirect elimination ==
	:::'An editor must not perform more than three reverts, in whole or in part, on a single page within a 24-hour period. A revert means undoing the actions of another editor, whether involving the same or different material each time."
			Oh, all right, that makes absolute sense. I think I came to the page through a link, so I experienced the double redirect firsthand. Next time I'll fix all incoming links to the correct capitalization, that's something I should have done anyway. If there's no incoming links, the only thing left is that the search box ATM directs you to ] if you enter "if i were a boy", so a reader would still drop out at the double redirect.<br>I kinda wonder, that's just another case where multi-redirects would be very useful if they were supported by the software. I can't imagine that implementing them in MediaWiki is that hard, or taxing … <br><span style="font-family:Verdana;font-variant:small-caps;">]<sup>]</sup></span> 11:24, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
	::You violated 3RR, if I weren't involved in the dispute, I'd have blocked you myself. As it is , . ] <small>]</small> 23:32, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
			== ] ==
	{{unblock reviewed|1=First off, I did not revert four times. I reverted three. Look at the 3RR report. Note that the third and fouth reverts listed in my 3RR report are identical. You can't count the same revert twice to make four. Second, Dreadstar's report is quite hypocritical. Dreadstar has reverted on the page at 05:47, 15:43, and 16:47. All three of those reverts were to prevent new material from being added to the article, and not only mine: his first revert was of User:Eleland.|decline=Please see ]. You edit warred, period. — ] - '']'' - ] 01:29, 20 November 2007 (UTC)}}
			Hi<br>Heh, yes, I know, I should have first tagged the image as a copyright violation, and then removed it from the article. It took me a little longer then with the previous image to find the copyright holder. :)<br>Cheers, <span style="font-family:Verdana;font-variant:small-caps;">]<sup>]</sup></span> 15:34, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
	Additionally, I've corrected a in the report that I made when changing the order of the diffs, so it's clearly 4RR. ] <small>]</small> 01:42, 20 November 2007 (UTC)		: Right. I followed to the article yesterday and assumed that we didn't have one, since they replaced a placeholder image. Cheers, <span style="font-family:Verdana;font-variant:small-caps;">]<sup>]</sup></span> 16:45, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
	Unfortunately, Dreadstar still cannot count very well. The is the initial edit that Dreadstar wants to prevent from being in the article.] (]) 01:45, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
			== Don't mention it ==
	:After receiving your email, I contacted the blocking admin and he agreed to shorten the block as a sign of ] that the edit warring has stopped. You are now unblocked. ] <small>]</small> 03:18, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
			Hah! Just sorry I didn't jump in when it was... you know... open. Better luck next time, as you clearly should have made it this time. ] (]) 15:57, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
	==No edit warring==
			== Identified (Vanessa Hudgens song) ==
	There's no need to edit war. Please join the ]. This will help you avoid trouble in the future. There are much better ways to deal with POV pushers than edit warring with them. Ask me for tips when you feel the need to revert more than once. - ] <sup>]</sup> 03:15, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
			Someone just made a page of ] and I doubt it was real since it has no sources at all. Do you think it would be nominated for deletion?] (]) 10:19, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
			== ControlFreak ==
	== I was unblocked, but the autoblock is still there. Fixed IP ... I can't change it ==
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			Yep, I saw the warning you gave him. Since I had his talk page on my watchlist that's what made me saw he uploaded again images. I probably would have indef blocked him if you didn't beat me to it with that final warning. I guess this will be his final chance. ] ] 01:36, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
	'''Your request to be unblocked''' has been '''granted''' for the following reason(s):
			:Will keep on eye on that editor. ] ] 11:09, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
	<br><br>] of ] lifted
			== Your taxes ==
	''Request handled by:'' - ] <sup>]</sup> 03:42, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
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			Take a look at . It clearly states that a nonresident married to a resident only has to declare Arizona-derived income. If your income is from sources outside of Arizona, it need not be reported to, or taxed by, Arizona. :-> ] (]) 02:12, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
	DING! You are now free to move about the wiki. - ] <sup>]</sup> 03:40, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
			:Dang, it's stuff like that that makes me wonder why anyone bothers to get married at all! It is simply more expensive taxwise, and 12 times the headache. ] (]) 02:23, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
	==Papiamento/Papiamentu/Papiament==
	I just wanted to introduce some consistency in the article. It's not that "Papiamentu" is not in an English form because both spelling forms are actually correct. The reality is that it doesn't look good in an article to be switching between one form and the other with no apparent reason as it can introduce confusion. We could have them ''ALL'' be changed to either "Papiamentu" or "Papiamento", but since the article about "]" is titled with an "o" and is referred like that through the entire article (even when it is specified at the beginning that it is also correct to spell it as "Papiamentu"), I decided it would be best to use "Papiamento" as the "non-Papiamentu" spelling, (i.e. "English spelling"). An explanation can be introduced that tells the reader about the validity of both spellings but the usage through the articles must be consistent. I apologize for stating that "Papiamento" was the "English form" of the word. That was incorrectly used to describe the edit. Please let me know what you think. ] (]) 15:48, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
			== Scrubs (My Bad) ==
	:I believe that "Papiament" is considered to be the Dutch form of the word. Natives from Bonaire might have adopted that from the Dutch language. What we must do then is determine the difference between what the actual Papiamento/Papiamentu ''language'' is and its three different dialect forms on each ABC island. Since the article is written in a single language (English, in this case) and it's referring to the ''language'' and not specifically to the different ''dialects'', I think we should adopt only one form of the word for the articles. A clarifying note on each article can specify the differences between the three adaptations of the ''single'' language "Papiamento" or "Papiamentu". ] (]) 16:03, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
			Wondering why you keep deleting this episode, considering there is no consensus and you don't have the authority to move the page. If you read the discussions on the talk page you'll realize no consensus was ever reached. Anyway this episode is notable due to the first appearance of Jordan Sullivan (a main character). I want to edit the episode, but its impossible if I have to spend half an hour trying to find it and then you delete it anyway.
	== RE: Arrgh STOP ==
			] (]) 02:05, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
			== ] ==
	Hey, I dont know what happened. I was doing my normal recent changed vandalism reverting. Everything looked normal when i changed back. I wasn't doing anything abnormal. But thats for catching/fixing whatever happened. Thanks, ''''']]''''' 20:52, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
			I gotta say, I don't see it. I wouldn't be surprised if ] were the real deal. :) --<span style="font-family:Verdana;font-variant:small-caps;">]<sup>]</sup></span> 02:55, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
	This might interest you.
	] (]) 12:14, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
			==Peter Blum==
			I woulld like to thankyou for your very fast assistance on the AfD talk page. I have left appropriate messages on ]. Again, Thankyou--] ] 03:19, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
			==Stop reverting good edits!==
	Thanks again for your help. The article was deleted, the problems are in the process of being corrected. I still think it was personal as opposed to being constructive while being camoflagued with "Misplaced Pages" reasons. <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 19:44, 27 November 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
			Like u did .
			<br>R u just reverting to get your edit count # up?
			<br>Why dont u make an actual worthy edit. ] (]) 10:33, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
	==That damn Janet==		== Re: Bad link ==
			Sure it does, I inserted the ids myself to make sure all my old links keep working. :) --<span style="font-family:Verdana;font-variant:small-caps;">]<sup>]</sup></span> 20:33, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
			: did the trick, although I . Cheers, <span style="font-family:Verdana;font-variant:small-caps;">]<sup>]</sup></span> 20:40, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
			==Re: My Shoes==
	Thanks. I wouldn't have said "carefully keeping to hard copy references to avoid scrutiny", though. Something like "using only hard copy references" would state the facts without telling readers what inference to make. Let the facts speak for themselves. Asserting what someone else's motivation could be perceived as bordering on incivility. Anyway, I was about to ask that person for a link to the previous AfD, but your information - which answered my question - kept my question from appearing due to edit conflict. If someone recreated the article, that could have been grounds for a speedy delete. Regardless of that, though, the last thing that happened prior to this was the eventual deletion review. If fans piled in to subvert the process, that sucks. Such a quick re-nomination was still wrong (we know what two wrongs don't make) - and I realize you know that. It's not like you're the one who re-nominated it. Now, people just need to let it go and wait a ''long'' time before getting back into it. If a long time passes and the article remains unfixed, a new AfD could eventually be appropriate. Ironically, this third attempt to delete it might actually innoculate it against future deletion. I know if I were an admin, I wouldn't be quick to delete it even if I were one who focuses on the strength of a case rather than the sheer number of !votes. ] 22:38, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
			Hey! Sorry for the late reply, for some odd reason I hadn't noticed your messages before. Anyway, I'll look for sources right now. ] (]) 20:51, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
			:Checking , I found out that those peak positions for "]" are fake, and that "]" and "]" are ]'s only singles to chart on ''Billboard'' to date, so I've just removed the charts table in the My Shoes article. There were also fake positions in ], which I promptly removed as well. ] (]) 21:20, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
			::Well done. ] (]) 21:39, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
			== Reply. ==
	:"snarky tone reduction" gave me a chuckle. ] 22:48, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
			I'm not sure RFPP is the way to go as page protection might be overkill. But I do think a "Articles for Redirect" or using AfD to discuss redirects would be good. The thing I'd want is someplace to discuss them that either the person doing the redirect or the person wanting the redirect undone could go to. As it stands the "redirector" can go to AfD (and TNN is doing that all the time) but the other side of the discussion can't do anything other than edit war. So any solution that both sides can use would be great by me. AfD isn't that, and shouldn't be used for that IMO. If it became "articles for discussion" as some have proposed that would work, but I think it needs to be something like "Articles status as delete, redirect,or keep". I'd be fine with page protection if it was needed for a redirect as long as there was a clear way to get that protection removed if it could be shown new things had happened or guidelines were otherwise met.
	::It probably would have gotten deleted if the second ] nomination had explicitly said at the top of the page to speedy delete it as a recreation. Sure, you might think that was clear from "Second Time", but that can mean a lot of things, and since it didn't say speedy based on deletion, that wasn't the basis for that particular AfD. Reading over the "Second Time" (which isn't what we call a 2nd nomination anyway), I was surprised not to see numerous speedy delete votes by other people trying to make that their own basis. So it wasn't just a matter of fans flocking to the AfD. Non-fans weren't saying enough of what they needed to say about it. Anyway, it exists. It survived DRV. It needs to be left alone for a long, long time. -- ] 23:18, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
			Good thoughts, and good discussion. Thanks. ] (]) 02:38, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
	==Natalee Holloway==
	I disagree with your edit as I think it's very relevant. I was just about to create a link to Emily Sander, who is on Misplaced Pages, when you performed this edit. Kindly read the article and consider the article and not the source please.--] 17:24, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
	:First, I always have to consider the source. Regardless of the author, publishing it in townhall.com automatically makes it suspect. Second, the material is not representing new facts about Natalee Holloway, but is simply commentary on a pattern, and a plea for societal change. It isn't relevant to the article on Natalee.Kww —Preceding comment was added at 17:31, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
			==Image copyright problem with Image:Marliesposter.jpg==
	Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/User_talk:MurderWatcher1"
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	True. I make this suggestion to you, re: the above. We can help the families of all of these murdered young women by including this in the article, and maybe some parents out there will use this Misplaced Pages reference, as well as others, as an example (or examples) of the dangers of vacationing and nightlife in general. All of these articles, re: Holloway, St. Guillen, etc. may be used to save some lives out there and that has always been my focus. Also, Misplaced Pages may also benefit as a possible source of what to avoid in the real world.--] 17:43, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
			If you have any questions, please feel free to ask them at the ]. Thanks again for your cooperation.<!-- Template:Di-no source-notice --> ] (]) 09:34, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
	:I understand your point, but this is an encyclopedia, not a medium for social change, or an avenue for any cause, regardless of its merits.] 17:44, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
			:I'm confused as to why you . The girl is missing and presumed dead by the police. Although technically she is still a "living person", this problem seems sufficient to permit fair use of the image. The article in which the picture is used makes specific reference to the poster, as well. Or is this just a problem with me filling out forms incorrectly?&mdash;](]) 11:33, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
			::It's a reasonable fair use image, but you need to add an appropriate ] as well. {{tlp|non-free fair use in|Marlies van der Kouwe}} will probably do it, but ] has a full list. ] (]) 12:38, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
			==Recreating ] article==
	Okay. A few more questions: Have you been following her case closely and do you think this girl and her family will get any justice in this case?--] 17:23, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
			Hey...I want to recreate ] article in this ]. May I revert the redirect and change the original article? Is it still failing ]? Message back, please. ] (]) 15:35, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
			: I did what you said...so, on ] I added all the informations available at the moment. Thanks. ] (]) 18:17, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
	== Dammit, Janet ==		== Alis.Payan ==
	A combination of the limited time since the previous AFD (only one month) and the availability of print sources led me to keep, in addition to a solid consensus for keeping. If it shouldn't have a separate article (and I really don't think it deserves one, for the record), propose a merge. --]] 06:32, 5 December 2007 (UTC)		I held off on whacking Rachelfan2 until the results of that Checkuser come out--and that IP last edited last night. However, I did find another possible sock based on the Camp Rock 2 non-article's history, {{user|Rachel.Lynn}}. ]] 14:27, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
			: You have email. ] 15:03, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
			::On second thought, I decided to spike Rachelfan2 as well ... didn't see that she and Alis.Payan were the ONLY editors to that Beverly Hills article. Meatpuppetry at the very least. ]] 18:41, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
			::Ezequiel.Pena tagged and bagged. *sigh* As far as I'm concerned, this user is banned. ]] 12:41, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
			::I've already made ] a protected redirect to ], and also protected the ] redirect. I'm holding off on ] for now--though I have the salt shaker ready just in case it's created again. ]] 12:53, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
			]--including seven we didn't know about. And the range has been hardblocked three months. Good grief ... ]] 17:20, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
	==Appologies==
			: Good work, all - and thanks for bringing it to AN/I :) ] 04:31, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
			== Heyheygimmesoccermeko? ==
	That stupid vanadalism was the result of my friends screwing with my account. I am very sorry about that. --] <small>—Preceding ] was added at 01:04, 7 December 2007 (UTC)</small><!--Template:Undated--> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
			The user has completely avoided talk pages, and has not edited any Nicole Wray articles, so its hard to pin down, but this certainly fits the M.O. of adding unsourced rumors to R&B singer articles, no? --].].] 22:24, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
	== Intervention ==
			:Thanks for exlaining the difference between the two editors. If you need semi-protection on any articles that are frequent targets for them, let me know and I will see what I can do! --].].] 11:45, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
			::Having looked at the edit history of those two articles, I would agree that it certainly passes the ] for Soccermeko's standard pattern of behavior. I have semiprotected the articles for 1 month. If he shows up elsewhere, let me know... --].].] 12:19, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
			== Nicole Parker Impressions ==
	Perhaps you misunderstood, I was trying to say that the Dutch only had contact with the sultans and other nobles in those days (perhaps ''residenten'' (Dutch) and ''regenten'' (Indonesian) ring any bells). Those nobles ordered the farmers to produce coffee etc. Of course, the Dutch intervened, but it was never their first intention, only when England gave Indonesia back it gained the official status of colony and thus the Dutch were somewhat obliged to intervene more, but again not much, with affairs such as education. In Batavia there were only a few thousand Dutch people and in some places along the shore were some Dutch ''factorijen''. Many locals never saw a Dutch person. From that perspective, the Indies were never a real colony such as the Latin-American for example were for Spain and Portugal. Understand my point? If you do, please revert. ] (]) 19:36, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
			If you think there is no need for impressions, then go to frank caliendo, he is a impressionist
	:Excuse me, I did not realise I had edited a section about the West Indies. I see your criticism is helpful since I forgot the West Indies, and assumed you were from Indonesia, and therefore my edits to ] are false. ] (]) 19:44, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
	== Re:Careful with the anonymous edit histories ==
	They slipped right past you.] (]) 19:31, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
	: Thanks for the heads up. I check the histories if I have reverted multiple edits as it is more likely I will have missed one... or two :P I find it more time consuming to check every history as opposed to putting up with missing some. This is because when others do it, it will come up in my vandalism edit finder (Lupins tool) and then I can fix their mess, and I hope others, like you will do the same for me. Hope you understand my logic :P Thanks again, <span style="border:2px solid #483C32;">]</span> 19:38, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
	== Please refactor ==
	<font face="Verdana">]</font><sup>'']''</sup> 22:42, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
			if you watch Nicole Parker on MADtv she is a impressionist and she collaborate with characters, too me it is a insult to take someone impressions where she has performed them on the show since 2003, so i beg to keep her impressions on her page because she has done allot for MADtv and i think her impressions is one thing she does great with
	== ILOVETHEOC ==
			== Nicole Parker Impressions ==
	See my talk page regarding your post. I think you are mistaken. -]<sub>]</sub> 04:55, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
			If you think there is no need for impressions, then go to frank caliendo, he is a impressionist
	== Temple garments ==
	Are you aware of any less inflammatory references for the article? I spend enough of my time reverting image removals and censorship of that article that I would prefer not to have things in it that bring the LDS irritation level up unnecessarily.] (]) 12:45, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
	: Not that I am aware of, I could try a googling later. Anyway, I don't reccomend removing it since it is a source for a statement needing a source. // ] (])
			if you watch Nicole Parker on MADtv she is a impressionist and she collaborate with characters, too me it is a insult to take someone impressions where she has performed them on the show since 2003, so i beg to keep her impressions on her page because she has done allot for MADtv and i think her impressions is one thing she does great with <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 22:48, 18 October 2008 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
	==It's not Suzanne Smart==
			== Reply to Nicole Parker ==
	Learn your stuff before you opine. ] (]) 04:38, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
			My reason is that her impression list has been on her page for a very long time and then you decide to come in and delete it, i understand what you mean...but you are basically telling me that she as a impressionist is not as big as Frank Caliendo or Darrell Hammond.
	== Apologies ==
			Now she has done all her impressions on MADtv since she first came on the series, and too me it is a slap in the face...because it makes no since because you have Mo Collins, Stephnie Weir, Michael McDonald, Aries Spears, Etc who all have Impressions on there list so can you please just not focus one person when there are allot other talents...no offense but your basically saying Nicole Parker impressions are not out there. <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 01:06, 19 October 2008 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
	Hi, Kww. I'm sorry that I said that you and MB had resorted to edit warring when in fact it was exclusively MB. It's so odd that we have such a difference of opinion regarding how to write an encyclopedia. (Which is what it comes down to, since I don't really care that much about the movie.) It's especially odd given that we share similar interests in science and in evolutionary biology in particular.] (]) 20:37, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
	==Reverts==		== Just a sample ==
	If you use that first one in a 3RR report, please clearly label and justify it. I have a hard time seeing that changing to a different sentence that includes the same phrase as a version from 4 months ago constitutes a "revert", and I suspect that a lot of other editors would share my difficulty. Some might even question the motives of someone that would use it in a report.] (]) 23:57, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
	:Per ], "''However, in the context of the English Misplaced Pages three revert rule, a revert is defined far more broadly as any change to an article that partially or completely goes back to any older version of an article.''", so yes, re-adding the same disputed wording, even in a different sentence, (''"]]) is indeed a revert. I've been burned by that myself - been there done that. ] <small>]</small> 00:07, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
			Well, that is what we can expect over the next 36 hours. At least that one was rational. Judging by my two prior TFA experiences, a lot are not. And, as I've indicated, I think Joran is pond scum, but fair is fair, if we refer to Natalee as an honors student, we have to give Joran his due. Maybe they got together to discuss their MENSA applications?--] (]) 12:02, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
	And please don't insert yourself into conversations on my talk page, especially when you're delivering insults or threats. ] <small>]</small> 00:10, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
	: you'd best review ]. That comment is just totally unnecessary and unwarranted. ] <small>]</small> 18:42, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
	::I'm sorry if you think that I have violated WP:CIVIL. I assumed that you must have skimmed my comment to have misinterpreted it so.Kww (talk) 20:47, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
	:::Thanks for the explanation. When somebody says "Please read again, slowly", it's not the best way to say, perhaps you misunderstood what I meant, can you review my statement again..? I know, fuses are short and frustration has been well set in, so things like this happen...but then, it's times like these we need to be on high alert about the potential impact of our own statements...and I've felt under attack by you, so that post just seemed to be another. Let's both try to be more careful! ] <small>]</small> 20:59, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
			== Removal of reactions of ] breakup ==
			As I stated on the other editor's talk page who removed the fan reactions, your removal of the reactions by fans simply because they are fan opinions is unwarranted. I could see if these reactions were a lot or were not sourced, or both, and do not enhance the article, but they are not a lot, are sourced (with valid sources) and do enhance the article. Not to mention that I made sure to word the reactions in an encyclopedic manner. There is no Misplaced Pages policy that states such reactions cannot be included. There are plenty of articles on Misplaced Pages, including ] and ] articles, that have fan reaction information.
	I'm not gossiping thier stuff from interviews with her. - x0xIceDreamx0x, 4 January 2008
			If you would rather I not include the exact quotes, and instead relay what fans thought in my own wording, like I did with a bit of the reaction some fans have had to ] in regards to the Danity Kane's breakup, then I am fine with that. But information on what fans think is absolutely allowed. ] (]) 19:38, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
	==Closed?==
			:As stated on my talk page, okay, I cut it down, and did not use the exact quotes. ] (]) 19:59, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
	I thought that this: * CLOSING ADMIN See Misplaced Pages:SSP#User:WatchingYouLikeAHawk for vote stacking issues here
			== Surprise ==
	meant the discussion was closed . . .
	On the other thing, I think the other side was more uncivil than they should have been. I'm not an expert in the details of WP policy, but I don't think you went over the edge.--] (]) 16:42, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
			] It's the barnstar for your help that you gave to me and other ones! <small> ] ]</small> 21:18, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
	== Merry Christmas! ==
			== Thanks! ==
	<div style="border-style:solid; border-color:blue; background-color:AliceBlue; border-width:1px; text-align:left; padding:8px;" class="plainlinks">]
			That message in my talk page, really meaned a lot to me!
	{{{1|<sup>]</sup><sub>]</sub>]}}} is wishing you a ]! This greeting (and season) promotes ] and hopefully this one has made your day a little better. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a ], whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Don't overdo it on the fudge! {{{2|}}} <br />
			] (]) 20:27, 22 October 2008 (UTC)Pedrovip
	Spread the Holiday cheer by adding {{]:]}} to their talk page with a friendly message.
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			== . ==
	== Please refrain from calling my comments "asinine". ==
			What templates actually do? editprotected was because a user was posting M. + M. are gay. It is vandalism. ] (]) 15:52, 23 October 2008 (UTC)Pedrovip
	As you did . It was very uncivil, and I personally don't think you have the right to call anyone else's comments asinine. - ] (]) 15:39, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
			== How many time is a user blocked ==
	== No discussion? ==
	Would you please provide a few examples of TTN redirecting articles without discussion? I can only find cases where he has provided warning on talk pages.] (]) 21:12, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
	:A warning template is no discussion. A monologue is also no discussion. He may be using a ''merge'' template but a good number of times he has no edits to the target merge article. On occasions he has removed/blank articles despite a discussion. Please see the ] for the examples. --<small> ]</small> <sup>]</sup> 21:15, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
			I wanna now, if i will be blocked, how many time? I already seen a user blocked 24 hours, and another 1 week. But what is the real deal? ] (]) 19:30, 23 October 2008 (UTC)Pedrovip
	== Sex tourism in Costa Rica ==
			:It depends on the scenario; if the account is made only for vandalism, it will be blocked indefinitely. If it's a long-time abuser, like the Grawp mob, it will be blocked on sight. There are also short-term blocks for disruption or for compromised accounts. ] (]) 03:26, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
			== From Geniusdream ==
	* If you want to discuss sex tourism, the country´s main article '''is not the place to do it'''. Instead, go to the ] article and contribute over there. I included real info about tourism and left a short mention to sex tourism, with all the references, just in case someone is interested. I also placed the subject on the talk page for discussion, and the only other participant agreed this is not the place to discuss this subject. I will not start an editing war with you but instead I am requesting a Wiki administrator do undo your changes, or you can do it, and please, keep the real tourism info that´s already there. ] (]) 02:08, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
	**PS: and by the way, a newspaper article is not a good enough source to include that sex tourism is 10% of total tourism earnings. By Misplaced Pages standards you need a more reliable source, like the World Bank, Inter-American Development Bank, etc. I seriously don´t know if you are criticizing sex tourism in Costa Rica or trying to make propoganda for single men to go there. Check your facts, despite what one of your sources says, '''prostitution is ilegal''' in Costa Rica. ] (]) 02:15, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
	::I've taken a look at the article at Mariordo's request, and commented on its talk page. ''']''' (]) 04:54, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
			We have both resolved the war in editing, we have agreed already about the issue and I'll be working on the article, ] for about 2-3 days to find references and re-edit the article as we have agreed. --] (]) 03:24, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
	==Image:Hot_Lilo.jpg==
	Sorry. I didn't see anything requesting a reply. I just thought you were making a comment. This image seems to have been taken at a "red carpet" event. Many similar images could have been created by different people. If you have matched the image, please provide a link. Finding other images with a similar look is not good enough for me in this case. Please feel free to take to DRV and get another opinion. -Regards ] ] 05:21, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
			== That is indeed weird ==
			But the bot seems to work now. All is good. --] 00:58, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
	==Matthew Jordan Smith==
	Hey! Long time, no talk! Hope you had a wonderful Christmas. I finally got a chance to work on the article some more, check it out and let me know what you think. Thanks again for your willingness to help a newbie! '''<font face="trebuchet ms" color="FF9999">]</font><font face="trebuchet ms" color="A6F591">]</font>''' 16:33, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
	==What the bleep==		== Re:Geniusdream ==
	Question. What text is SA trying to add to the page? I understand the concept regarding "time travel." Is he trying to refute text that is already in the article? I am asking because I am trying to figure out if there is another way to accomplish the same without violating NOR. ] (]) 13:38, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
			I dunno, it could be him, since the anons just kept on reverting my revisions to the ones by the fanboy. ] (]) 01:25, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
	== Contributions from IP range ==
			== What Misplaced Pages's Not, "Not a Forum" ==
	I saw your question to Durova about the 4.0.0.0/8 netblock. First of all, be careful what you wish for, wading through contribs from 16 million IP addresses might turn out to be somewhat daunting :)
			I'm posting here. This doesn't belong on the main page if I'm going to discuss my specific case, but you're a good detective. Thanks for paying attention. You saw what spurred my interest in this particular topic of discussion. The user in question who edited my remarks in a talk page has been a very busy beaver. I know he's asked my permission subsequently to edit my remarks, but I'm not so certain he's ever found it necessary in previous cases.
	Anyway, if you don't get anywhere with the Misplaced Pages developers, let me know. If you want to see <u>anon-only</u> contribs from 4.x.x.x and '''IF''' you run Windows :( I can build you a client-side tool, it looks pretty easy using API calls and I can set the parameters so it doesn't hog the servers when the site is busy. ] (]) 07:04, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
			His overbearing edits made me curious. Upon examining the edit history of changes he's made attributed to "not a forum" (which are numerous) very many of which are on talk pages and some user pages. I do not have the experience to determine how justified these edits are. All I can say is that they had the effect of scaring me and shocking me.
	:Ask and ye shall receive. I put together a hack job to test the concept. There are about 45,000 IP contribs/day in mainspace, takes about 3 min. to scan each day. I ran it back about five days and found these 9 edits: ] ] ] ](multiple) ] ] ]
	:Send me an email to establish a channel for sending executables. Also you may want to watchlist ] - I've created a stub there for this project. I'll be putting questions onto its Talk page about input parameters, output formats, etc.
	:Based on the quality of the edits I found, this looks like it could be a valuable tool. Cheers! ] (]) 21:39, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
	::On the left side, under the WP logo is a whole column of stuff. Under the Search box should be "toolbox" and in there is "E-mail this user" - that's what I always use anyway. If you're at my user page it should take you to ] - or just click the link I just typed :) ] (]) 21:58, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
	:::Sent you an executable by mail, you should have it by 08Jan08 0700 UTC i.e. within an hour of this post if not before. If not, let me know, it may have gotten blocked. ] (]) 06:05, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
			In one case, he had gone into a user's space that was being used to work on a Misplaced Pages page and took away the entire page. Again, I am not knowledgeable enough in these matters to say how this could have been justified. All I can say is that I cannot see how someone could ever be justified going into someone's personal workspace that is being used to work on a Misplaced Pages page, summarize "not a forum" and take out all of that person's work. I'm not actually complaining at this point, I am just absolutely bewildered about this situation. --] (]) 05:47, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
	== Endowment ==
			== Thanks ==
	Some people just don't give up, eh. I've blocked all three accounts, since the editor has made it clear that he will persist in disrupting the article as long as he's allowed to. ] (]) 00:29, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
			Ahh... okay, I should have assumed there was history there. I was in the States the whole time, but I assumed since it basically became an international incident, nearly leading to trade sanctions, etc., that most informed Europeans would be aware of it. I saw on his user page that he was from Spain and thought he possibly just wasn't aware of the significance of the whole Holloway story. Thanks for the heads up. I'll just steer clear. --] (]) 02:09, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
	==Dread Zeppelin==
	Thanks for that.
	] (]) 01:05, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
			== from --] (]) 12:40, 28 October 2008 (UTC) ==
	== Apologies for Editor Review ==
			It's not that, its just that others are just vandalizing the page, like editors that are only IP addresses and furthermore, when others revert the article, the references provided will be disregarded.
	Please look at my comment.
			--] (]) 12:40, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
	Thanks
			== Opinion on identity of user ==
	'''] '''<sup> ] </sup><sup>] ]</sup> 16:21, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
			See: and . The account dates to 2006, so it might not be who I think it is, but the grammar seems quite, um, familiar? --].].] 18:22, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
	== Word ratio ==
			:I think not. SM's grammar is marked by a failure to grasp verb tenses and the proper use of auxiliaries. This is more tough-boy gang slang. I wish we only had one bad editor with bad grammar to deal with, but there's an unfortunately large quantity.&mdash;](]) 18:27, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
			::Gotcha. Anyhoo, later... --].].] 18:30, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
			== Use of album covers -- ] article ==
	Let's say you're the noncritical information and I'm the critical information, and that our discussion is the lead to that article. Now, your message on my page was 22 words. My response, keeping to the 1:8 ratio, could be no longer than '''I totally understand.''' Fortunately for my verbosity, life doesn't work like that, but that response probably would have sufficed. <font color="red">]</font><font color="blue">]</font> <sup><font color="darkred">]</font></sup> 17:45, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
			If album covers can only be used in articles about the albums, then why would Misplaced Pages have these options when you upload an album cover?
	==Re: Mary J. Blige==
	Blige's main genres are R&B, soul, and hip hop soul, but there are IPs users who keep changing the order of the genres, wikilinking things wrong (for example, they wikilink the ] article to the ] article, which is completely nonsensical), anyway, doing things wrong. I'll have to warn them if they continue to do this. Was that helpful? :) ] (]) 17:55, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
			Options:
	:I thought I was the only one who thought so! Up-to-date R&B is pathetic; very few artists—Blige for instance—are ''really'' good. Nowadays all you have to do to be dubbed R&B is do a rap/sung collaboration with some lousy rapper and/or work with some trashy hip hop producer. And don't worry, I'll keep an eye on Blige-related articles! ] (]) 18:08, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
			How will the album/single cover be used in Misplaced Pages?
	== Thanks ==
			*in an infobox about the album/single.
	I am in a public computer at the time and it does not load pages properly. Sorry about that and thanks for catching it! Also, thanks for clarifying the figures for me. ] (]) 00:10, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
			*in a header at the top of the article about the album/single.
			*'''in a section devoted to the album/single.'''
			*in an article about the album/single's artist, used to identify the artist's work.
			*for some other use.
			:You see? I was going for option #3. Although I was not for both album covers being within the article. A different editor had recently added the second album cover. But having the first album cover...I feel is an enhancement to the article's readability, seeing as it is their debut album. Plus, it is in the section about the album. ] (]) 00:05, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
	==Comment at ]==
	I added a section to the opening, and it was immediately reverted. Thoughts? ] (]) 08:25, 8 January 2008 (UTC)		:Besides that, I provided a fair-use rationale for that second use to go along with the fair use rationale for its first use. ] (]) 00:10, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
			::Responded on may talk page, of course. Remember that I only want to use one album cover in this article, their debut one, when you list this issue at NFCC. ] (]) 17:02, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
	== Thanks ==		== Insulting Category ==
			WP:NP
	Ah, thanks for the explanation. I'm obviously totally unfamiliar with the subject :) I hope they discuss it, but if they have to be blocked so be it. Peace, ] <small>]</small> 20:37, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
			There is nothing less insulting than being called hilarious. <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 02:33, 29 October 2008 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
	== 3RR ==
			== from --] (]) 05:55, 29 October 2008 (UTC) ==
	I've just granted you rollback, but I've just noticed you were blocked: can you please explain your 3RR block? If not, I'll have to remove the right. '']'' 00:36, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
	:That's fine then, though I will kindly remind you that rollback is for vandalism reverting only, although I don't think I need to tell you that. Thanks for the explanation. '']'' 00:42, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
	==3RR Question==
	OK, I've learned something that I did not know. I do have some questions though, the rest of the links clearly show TTN working around the revert rule. This is a frustrating issue that involves many articles and many users. Because he knows how to beat the system, he is getting away with this. Eusebeus is there to back him up and save him. How can this issue be resolved? This is going to remain a thorn in editors side and nothing seems to be occurring. I've been warned by Spartaz for editing. I was editing, ran into edit conflict, rv'ed then continued editing. What about all the other examples. I'm sorry to vent at you, but I'm here to help as are other editors, and yet we are faulted for trying to point out a thorn? This is infuriating. What would you do or suggest? Thanks! --] (]) 00:49, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
	:No your advice was very good and appreciated. I just have certain parties who have my talk page on their watchlist and I did not want it on their as fodder for their misaligned ideas. I've got it in my history and I may archive it in full, but just didn't want it on the page. Sorry if it came across any other way. It was much appreciated. --] (]) 02:22, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
			How come the article was improved, it now has lesser references and besides the length of an article doesn't really matter, read one of the guidelines in wikipedia, it says that putting information in this site is unlimited for as long as it has references.
	== Idly curious newbie has a question ==
			--] (]) 05:55, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
			== Montage images as navigational elements ==
	I just got a mesage about my revisions on a pair of articles and would like some clarification on why they were not allowed. IMHO, both editings were quite frank and honest without distorting or changing the purpose of the articles. <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 19:28, 11 January 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
			At least five administrators (], ], ], and ]) disagree with your application of that guideline. Please, read the discussion at ] before reverting again. Thank you, --] (]) 13:53, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
	== Replying here due to the fact that I'm still a newb ==
			:No. You're oversimplifying my position, again. I agree that a ''serious'' reexamination of exactly how much fair use is "minimal" is appropriate, but you are being repeatedly ] in trying to impose your own position on the matter. You might want to note that you score very few points by building up strawmen to knock down. I've commented on the image debate as well. &mdash;&nbsp;]&nbsp;<sup>]</sup> 18:46, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
			:Please do not misrepresent my opinion. As each image is unique in it's application, you cannot simply transpond my arguments for the Companions image to the Cheeta Girls image. <span style="font-family: verdana;"> — ] • ] • </span> 20:04, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
			:*To both Coren and Edokter; I mispresented nothing. Both of you are in support of fair use images as navigational elements. That's what I was reiterating. Regardless, it's a moot point. There's been so much fury created over the image that the disruption (which isn't me) is the fury over it. I've responded appropriately. --] (]) 21:38, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
			:Just to confirm that Hammersoft is misrepresenting my views, to add to his continuing disruptive antics. I wonder if an RFC may be appropriate. ]&amp;] 23:45, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
			== Refactoring ==
	Frankly, I'd ask the person in question how they'd feel if we video-recorded their wedding night with their spouse, then put it on every cable, satellite, and interenet news site for the whole world to see, 24 hours a-day.. Oh and by the way, we'll give them a full list of everything they did wrong on that night, and continue to bring it up time and again, no matter they asked of us. Would not be a polite thing to do, would it now? With all due respect, I catch enough garbage from people who spend their whole lives making fun of who and what I am. I get sick of people handing them more ammunition. It may be information, but it is information used to slander and debase a group of people who only want some dignity and respect. Just because we are a peculiar people does not provide the world at large the privilege to mock us. <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 20:02, 11 January 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
			I refactored your IFD at ] to be in sequential time order, adding it to what would have been the bottom of the list when you added it. This is how IFDs are added, rather than at the top, per ] item #2 "list the image at the bottom of that page". Trying to help, --] (]) 16:49, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
	== thanks ==
			{{tb|Hello Control}}
	for the clarification I do appreciate your assistance. Adios! <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 20:28, 11 January 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
			== Nicole Parker ==
	:Thank you; it was a good thing to do. It may be very useful in these situations to allow an editor of similar beliefs to explain what is acceptable and what is not. I do not promise success, but at least new editors will feel they are talking with someone who knows their exact feelings and still realizes there is a proper way of doing things. Thanks again for thinking of doing so. --] ] 00:58, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
			I Just Added the new impression list
	== Thank you for your support and advice! ==
			is that ok?
	I am pleased that you agree with me on the status of the articles. I have to admit I did feel a little guilty when I was doing it. But I had a good cause:
			reply back A.S.A.P Thanks
	:''I work heavily in , and a lot of the episodes from past seasons of the show do not have articles there. I had learned from ] that certain episodes of shows are not always notable enough to have Misplaced Pages articles. I thought it would save writing time to look through some of WP's articles for South Park episodes, find all the equivalents of the missing articles which didn't meet Misplaced Pages's notability guidelines, and redirect them to the main List of South Park episodes page. Then I would transfer the information from here to South Park Wiki. The ones who were notable enough for Misplaced Pages, however, I would have to write for the wikia from scratch. It's a good plan, I thought, because it would allow the information all the users who contributed to the creation of the articles in Misplaced Pages worked so hard on, to continue onwards.''
			== GTD-5 ==
	I hope you can see what I mean.
			Just ran across your GTD-5 article, very nicely done. I always thought the hardware architecture was elegant. I did 2nd level T/S for GTE '84-'87, taught L1/L2/L3 maintenance and met a few of your peers during trips to Phoenix. Best regards, ] (]) 21:54, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
	Thanks for the suggestion of how to play this merge-game more smoothly!!!
			== Copyright violation? ==
			How would it be a copyright violation if the photo was taken by ME during her concert in LA?
	] (]) 03:16, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
			Im gonna put it back since this is an up to date photo of Tina. <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 14:01, 31 October 2008 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
	== It would be helpful if you would help ==
	Have you considered taking some of the redirected articles that you are fond of, putting them into your userspace, repairing them, and '''then''' putting them back? No one can object to you putting up a repaired version of an article that meets all relevant guidelines. Simply shouting "TTN IS BAD!" doesn't help anything ... it just helps edit wars happen. Point redirects like we were talking about in your last ANI report don't help either. Unless, of course, your goal is to eventually derail TTN so that Misplaced Pages can be full of bad articles that are mainly plot summaries.] (]) 02:22, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
	:Articles are not written in userspaces. ] are not banned. We do not expect articles to be in featured quality when placed on mainspace. As you point out improving article quality involves expanding them, not blanking. This isn't a matter of good and evil. Articles that are mainly plot summaries are 1/3rd complete. That leaves the reception and production sections. --<small> ]</small> <sup>]</sup> 02:39, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
	::What do you think sandboxes and userspace pages are for? I didn't use the word "expanding", by the way. I said "repairing." Stripping the plot summary down to a paragraph, and then adding all the awards the episode has been nominated for, real life impact, things like that. And, if it never has been nominated for an award and has had no real-life impact, leaving it as a line or two in a "List of" article.] (]) 02:56, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
	:::Sandboxes are there to experiment. For example how to use images. Userpace is there to help you manage articles you care about and to communicate. You are neither expected nor required to have any content in your userspace to write articles. Otherwise stub articles would be banned. They aren't.
	:::Certainly an episode or movie that received no award is not automatically non-notable. There are plenty of movies that received no Oscar awards. Having an article on every movie made does not seem to be a problem on my end. Misplaced Pages is not paper. Just like how we do not exclusively have articles on physics theories that won the Nobel prize we do not expect nor require every movie article to have an award. Wining prizes has not a whole lot to do with notability but instead about the reception the particular movie received. Also, just because something has real-life impact or won an award does not make it notable.
	:::You seem to be confusing the concept of notability. You seem to be seeking a universal notability which would be a mistake.
	:::--<small> ]</small> <sup>]</sup> 14:58, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
	== Curious ==
			Its not possible to post it directly from my camera anymore since everything was already backed up in my computer and deleted from the camera. What does OTRS stands for? <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 16:35, 31 October 2008 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
	Hi, I notice you said that there are so much mysticism and pseudoscience on wikipedia. I feel I have a fairly neutral stance since I am interested in alternative hypothesises to unexplained science. However, I feel that pretty much everything is slanted towards a hard scientific worldview which I find foreign and problematic. Articles such as Bleep is more about the criticism than the movie and its claims, so that can't be an example of that. I actually find the policies work in the entirely opposite direction. ] (]) 02:09, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
	Hehe, the irony is that I feel the same way about skeptics really. I have to teach them that there is more to the world than mainstream science ... :) But I still haven't seen many problematic fringe editors. Obviously there are a few newbies that aren't good at using WP:RS, but most of the debates I've been following has been between people who seek a neutral writing, and people who are trying to rewrite the entire article into a rational skeptic POV (which might be a completely idiosyncratic if you are familiar with the subject). I also notice there is a much bigger infrastructure in place to "catch" fringe theories. Of course the mainstream science view is often wanted and catching outright lies is indeed a job of WP:FRINGE. But everything with a measure; claiming alternative hypothesises pseudoscience is to go to far for example! I could go on but this is an interesting paper on how highly cited paper are often rejected at first, and contains a bit on systemic issues at work: http://www2.uah.es/jmc/ai53.pdf - recommended reading. ] (]) 02:50, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
			Well all i did was move the images to my computer and save as a bitmap to gain a higher resolution but when I tried to upload it here that format was not accepted, so I used a program to turn it into a Jpeg, I dont know why but that infos about the camera model and etc disapeared.
	== Centralized TV Episode Discussion ==
			When I changed the format the images were all duplicated and I probably deleted the original ones or at least some of them.
	Over the past months, TV episodes have been reverted by (to name a few) TTN, Eusebeus and others. No centralized discussion has taken place, so I'm asking everyone who has been involved in this issue to voice their opinions here in this centralized spot, be they pro or anti. Discussion is here . --] (]) 18:36, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
			Im new here and when i was uploading the photo I was asked to put a copyright tag, but it has no copyrights! Its just a photo taken during a live concert, one can even see that the quality is not that good too.--] (]) 17:26, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
	== Objective Episode Standard ==
	I saw your support for my statement. I would like to propose this as an objective standard:
	:''Notable episodes are those that meet any of the following criteria:
	#''has been nominated for individual awards by a notable organization;
	#''have had elements of the episode nominated for such an award (i.e. "best supporting actor" for a guest-starring role);
	#''reached an unusual peak of ratings (such as the finale of ''M*A*S*H''); ''
	#''achieved other notoriety due to an unusual impact on the real world(the "seizure-causing" episode of ''Pokemon''; the ''Trapped in the Closet'' episode of ''South Park'', etc.)''
	Can you think of any specific additional criteria?] (]) 17:04, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
			Ok thank you. <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 19:48, 1 November 2008 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
	:I think real-world notability may be the only acceptable notability. My favorite criteria for ''Family Guy'' episodes are lawsuits and ] boycotts. That said, I think an "objective" standard (beyond what is already stated in ]) would be a difficult and contentious discussion at this time. / ]<small> ] ]</small> 17:16, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
			==Re: ]==
	* Good job starting it, btw! ] (]) 20:03, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
			I do. I was already aware of most of them, but thanks anyway! I felt free to add the ] to the list as it was missing. Should we also add the Portuguese National Top 50 (even though it never had an article)? ] (]) 19:54, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
			:I've just done. Feel free to have your say. ] (]) 20:29, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
			== Someone typed the wrong number? ==
	* You know, I was just thinking about "presumption of notability" and what that means. Maybe it's defined somewhere else? But it seems like if a notability-presumption-criteria is met, then that should mean it passes PROD, but doesn't close an AFD. Is there a definition somewhere of "presumption of notability"? --] (]) 20:13, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
			OK. How about you do the number thing because I am ''horrible'' at nominating pages for speedy deletion. I just figure out why, and back some of them up if I think it is necessary, like a lawyer? I don't know.
	==Caribbean Sea==
	Indeed it is, I am in ], couple of years younger than you but been here a year longer, and wouldn't change where I am for the world. Thanks, ] 03:57, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
			Thanks for bringing that to my attention. Really!
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	== On RFC ==		== Hey ==
			{{Talkback|Pedrovip}}
	Just wanted to expound on my statement. My biggest issue was the notification only to the supporters. That's an invitation to create an ]. I feared without any others knowing about it could all of a sudden been marked as guideline or policy without true debate.--] (]) 01:13, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
	:I screwed up my link but i hope you know what i mean. <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 01:15, 19 January 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
			] (]) 12:14, 2 November 2008 (UTC)Pedrovip
	I too want to indicate that my endorsement of ] about notifying users is not in any way an assumption of bad faith. Your explanation makes sense. ●] <sup>(]|])</sup> 02:41, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
	::I'll add a refactoring comment. I'll make a change in a sec, i'd appreciate a reply as to if it's a fair representation. Hold on.--] (]) 03:42, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
	:::Are we both ok with that?--] (]) 03:51, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
	::::No problem. We disagree on issues, but I have no desire to have it turn personal. Regards.--] (]) 04:04, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
	== Accidents Sketch ==		== Cookie! ==
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	I would have argued for a merger into ] as there is surely a reliable source out there that supports the verifiability of the existence and some small bit of information about the sketch ... but not sufficient material for a full article. --User:Ceyockey (<small>'']''</small>) 17:53, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
			I given you a cookie! I hope you can be my friend and tell me about new articles on Misplaced Pages.
	== Misplaced Pages Reputation ==
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			== Ali Lohan AfD ==
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	I saw that you were looking for evidence of reputation damage. I don't know how reflective Sheldon is, but here's a few examples ... they are at least worth a giggle.
	*http://www.sheldoncomics.com/archive/071211.html
	*http://www.sheldoncomics.com/archive/070114.html
	*http://www.sheldoncomics.com/archive/071209.html
	*http://www.sheldoncomics.com/archive/071210.html
	*http://www.sheldoncomics.com/archive/071212.html
	*http://www.sheldoncomics.com/archive/071213.html
	*http://www.sheldoncomics.com/archive/071214.html
	] (]) 01:43, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
	:Thank you, Sir. Two can play at that game, however, so here's a ''Partially Clips'' for your amusement. --]<font color="black">]</font><font color="green">]</font> 02:18, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
	:Additionally, I note that the particular example used by ''Sheldon'' is that the ] article is larger than the ] article, which it considers damning evidence without explaining why. A cursory investigation shows that this may be because the Washington article links to subarticles ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ] and ]. It somewhat less conspicuously leads to ] and his nickname ]. This leads me to conclude that the author of ''Sheldon'' is a total jackass and that, while in the name of honesty this need not invalidate his points, his concern for honesty and fairness in presentation of the issue counts for dick. I hope that you agree. Thanks. --]<font color="black">]</font><font color="green">]</font> 14:25, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
	::Your criticisms have merit ... I just provided them as examples. As to whether he's a '''total jackass''', he's probably a bit jaded. He was the target of a brief conflict over web-comic notability.] (]) 14:33, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
	:::True, as I mentioned in not so many words the issues are not settled by the state of this representative. As to whether he is, his position is more understandable if he was involved in what turned out to be called the Great Webcomics Purge, what seemed like an isolated incident demonstrating the need of working with others but what may have been the forerunner of the current hulabaloo, but it is still my personal convinction that someone who acts like one is one. Particularily online, where the barrier between thoughts and their expression is mercifully higher.<br>This is quite impressive as topic drifts go, though. We can return to Misplaced Pages's credibility, if you wish, once I finish that essay on combat robots. --]<font color="black">]</font><font color="green">]</font> 15:11, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
			Thanks for the heads up, got it now. ] 03:59, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
	== AN/I - ScienceApologist ==
			== ? ==
	I've responded to your question there. - ] 15:34, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
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			== Hoaxes ==
	Disclaimer: I haven't checked the Bleep page recently, so I'm assuming you're still acting civily and treating other editors with respect. That said, of course the system isn't broken. Most editors, like yourself, treat other editors with respect even when you don't agree with them. You seek consensus for, or at least comments on, massive changes that would inflame other users. In other words, you realize that Misplaced Pages is a collaborative encyclopedia, versus a top-down edited encyclopedia, and you strive to work well with others despite disagreeing with them. Now, that's about ''actions'' at Misplaced Pages. Let's look at content.
			"Am I just getting better at spotting them, or are there more and more of these things?" Maybe both. By the way, someone's nominated me for a 7th rfa without asking me first. Should I run with it or just say no, not now? ] and his otters • <sup>(] • ] • ])</sup> 04:17, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
	What people are saying when they say the system is broke is that the system doesn't protect their all-dominant view. That's a two-part claim. The first part assumes that their view is actually the dominant view, and the second part assumes that the view must be protected ''at all times'' by the system. The problem with the claim is that 1) They expect everyone else to assume that their view is the all-dominant view as well (many of them just expect people to take their word for it without any evidence), and 2) The system is an open system that is continually fixing itself. In other words, even if an article is incorrect on a view at any given moment, based on the view of a set of editors at the time, it's not a locked article. Whatever the actual dominant view is will be discovered, and the article view will be fixed accordingly. To say the system is broke because it's not the "correct view" at the exact moment the editor arrives is a pretty narcissistic view of the system. It's saying the system's effectiveness and ability to "work" is dependent upon it's ability to accept ''their view'' (even assuming that it's the correct view) ''at that moment''. They place a lot of emphasis not only on their view, but on themselves, assuming that the system won't correct itself if they're gone. That's completely self-centered.
			== Singles, songs and music videos ==
	The people who claim the system is broken are self-styled "defenders of the wiki" who believe the wiki's effectiveness is completely centered on their edits. They're nothing more than ] that are impatient and self-centered. Perhaps the reason articles are f-upped is actually because they pissed off so many editors that editors finally stopped taking their word for it and stopped listening to them. That's not a broken system, it's a broken editor. Given the eventual turn around of editors it is more likely that the article would be fixed in their absense than in their presence. That's how the system actually works. --''']''' <sup>(])</sup> 02:04, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
			Were disputes over what qualified for singles, songs and music videos ever get resolved? I think it's a stretch saying someone singing some silly song on some show satisfied specs for a music video. ] 18:44, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
	== ] ==
			:I'm not aware of any broad consensus on the topic. Can you be specific as to what performance you don't think qualifies?&mdash;](]) 18:47, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
			:: To be specific, "Really Great" is performed in character (poor singing voice) to the melody of "London bridge is falling down". I also find it very odd to think adding a soundtrack to a movie clip makes a "music video". ] 18:58, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
			:::I'll support you that in-character performances don't count. As for soundtrack addition: if they just take a 2:30 second section of a show and run a song in the background, I would argue that that isn't a video. If they take a song and build a clip montage over it, I think it probably would count.&mdash;](]) 19:24, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
			== Ashley Tisdale discography ==
	Hi I was just wondering why you have nominated ] for deletion because I have added more sources since you nominated it and I have re-wrote the article. <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 00:24, 23 January 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
			Alright, I re-added the references, I deleted them by mistake. Sorry. &mdash;](]) 15:24, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
			== Help me! ==
	Oh so basically you mean that the article should be re-created nearer to the release date, when more information is confirmed. ] (] • ]) 01:10, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
			Hey, I found two new peak positions for "]" and "]" (songs by Ashley Tisdale) but the name of the chart is Bayerische Single-Charts...where's Bayerische? My source is german, you can check here , searching by Tisdale on Bayerische chart...Thanks so much! &mdash;](]) 19:08, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
			: Thanks. &mdash;](]) 11:10, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
			==Your bot idea==
	Yeah well I'll do that then when more details are confirmed. ] (] • ]) 01:14, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
			, any idea where to start, I think it's a great idea. — ]] 14:44, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
			==Hi and sorry==
			Oh sorry for that reverting. Read the talk page. Gimmetrow and my comments. I am trying my best to clear the incorrent things in the article, used Gimmetrow's comments and guidance as help so can i try working on my version of the article and using Gimmetrow's comments to improve. Just like what i did before you reverted it to Gimmetrow's last version.](]) 14:43 , 8 November 2008 (UTC)
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	Thanks for all of your help, I guess you're just trying to make[REDACTED] somewhere where you can get information, not a gossip column and I'm working on my editing :). --] 04:08, 23 January 2008
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	Kww, you'll have to forgive me, I didn't know what OTRS was. Now that I do, I won't make the mistake of reverting such an item again. My bad, ] 14:36, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
			== Re: Uninvolved admin ==
	==24.16.98.233==
	Did he violate 3RR in deleting that material? In any event, that isn't what I call good faith and I really suspect he is a sockpuppet of Jonaaron. He has only edited this one article, and he has been a member for six months.--] (]) 00:56, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
			If you are looking for uninvolved admins, start a thread at ] or ]. You will get a lot more opinions than mine. Alternately, if you believe there to be widespread sockpuppetry, you can file a report at ] to ask a checkuser to look in at it. --].].] 16:51, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
	== Pee-wee's Playhouse Christmas Special ==
			==re:Spam blacklist==
	A <nowiki><br></nowiki> tag needed to be inserted into the infobox between two links, and I removed a link to a non-existent category. Nothing of terrible importance, that's why the edit was marked as minor. I came across the article while perusing, and those two things stood out. I noticed it was protected but reasoned that it couldn't be protected because of a <nowiki><br></nowiki> tag and an unnecessary category link, and so I considered my edit non-controversial. If I made a mistake you can revert. --] (], ]) 12:28, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
			I have no problem whatsoever with those being added. I have only ever participated in comments/discussion in that area, however — I have not nominated anything nor have I blocked any sites myself. If you do decide to suggest a block on those, let me know and I'll agree! - ] (]) 19:16, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
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	Thanks for cleaning up that . There were 23 in total... *sigh* :) <span style="color:#00398d;font-family:Verdana, Arial, sans-serif;">&mdash; ] <small>(] • ])</small></span> 23:40, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
	== oops... ==		== AIV ==
			That's alright - I "go by the book" simply because I then don't have to make value judgements, but I have no problem if an admin takes a different view. I noted that one report hadn't vandalised since the final warning, and then checked it again with a view to removing it, found they had resumed vandalising after my comment was made - so I blocked them for 31 hours... In the end, we all work to the benefit of the encyclopedia. ] (]) 22:41, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
	apologies... i didnt notice it.. thank you
			:I suspect that if there was a "separate book" for death hoaxes then the number of such incidents will increase; there is nothing better a troll likes than being noticed. A death hoax is vandalism as much as "is a poopy" stuff - warn 'em, report 'em, and clear up the mess they made. I have a fairly standard blocking notice for vandals, "''X'' hours standard vandalism block", to try and cut down on any thrill they get for being found out. It comes down to personal approaches, and this is mine. ] (]) 22:52, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
	] (]) 00:37, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
			::Protected for the requested 3 days, but if the hoax is taken down speedily then it can be returned to semi. If you are keeping an eye on things, let me know if you need the status changed. ] (]) 23:10, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
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	==RfM filed==		== BADCHARTS ==
			My mistake. WP:BADCHARTS should include the fact that airplay charts are not permitted under WIKI:CHARTS. Many airplay charts have been removed from many FAs.] (]) 12:12, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
	A ] has been filed on the continuing dispute over the ] of this article. You have been listed as an involved party, please respond on the mediation page at your earliest convenience. ] <small>]</small> 19:04, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
			== Concept album ==
			If you have a chance and the inclination, could you stop by ] and drop some suggestions on the talk page? The article is an unholy mess and I don't even know where to start. Thanks in advance! —] ] 21:38, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
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	== ] ==		== Image removal ==
	Is this pseudoscience? Judging from the article it seems to be the invention of one guy, Lloyd deMause (try googling him) and his students/disciples. ] | ] 13:54, 30 January 2008 (UTC)		I did everything according to the ]. I think the changes should be reverted and the image/article be submitted for review. ] (]) 02:28, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
	:thanks. I don't think there is any major urgency - except the article has been around for a long time. There is a related article ] that I am very concerned about. I once flagged it, but that old talk has been archived. there is a new editor working on it and my hope is he is trying to bring it more in line with policy, clean it up. But I don't know. ] | ] 14:22, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
			== My Writing ==
	::I'm not sure about pseudoscience, but it gives no initial references to support psychohistory as a real discipline. As far as we know at the start of that article, somebody compiled everything else in it and just gave it a name. It could be OR. ] (]) 19:47, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
			'''In All Honesty, That's How I Write My Comments Everyhere. '''
	== TfD nomination of ] ==
	] has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at ]. Thank you.<!--Template:Tfdnotice--> — ] (]) 18:09, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
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	==DeVries "solving the case"==
	I hope you agree with me that we should keep this likely garbage off the NH page until and unless OM does something official about it.--] (]) 16:33, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
			'''(Well, Capitalizing Has Been A Newer Thing) But Bolding, Double-Spacing Sentences, etc.'''
	:Why do you call this 'likely garbage'? It's all over the news. For example: http://www.radionetherlands.nl/news/international/5624235/New-clues-in-Holloway-case <br />
	:Peter R. De Vries is not just some nutjob who wants his 10 minutes of fame. He is actualy a well respected crime reporter in The Netherlands.<br />
	:<sub>Sorry if this reply is not the standard way of reacting on a talk page.</sub> <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) </small><!-- Template:Unsigned -->
			'''I Even Did Those Things On School Papers. That's Just How I Write. '''
	::While I fully agree we should keep to reliable sources, calling this a nutjob is pretty much the opposite. Peter has earned a place as a reliable source in the Netherlands. He has a lot to lose if anything he says doesn't pan out. Then again, he hasn't said a lot except for the hard assertion that Natalee is "no longer alive" and that he has "solved the case". Based on last night's "Pauw en Witteman" show, whatever Peter has said to Natalee's mother, it was certainly enough for her. Regardless, this is all based on leaked info, and I would prefer to wait at least until Peter's own program has aired next Sunday night. ] (]) 01:50, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
			'''It Has Nothing To Do With Trying To Get Attention, Really. '''
	==please do not delete my comments about an article==
	Please do not delete comments about what material an article should contain. This is not appropriate and my comment was not slanderous at all. Thank you <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 23:20, 1 February 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
	:Can you please provide a link to where the "office" directed that certain categories be left on the Natilee Holloway article page? Thank you. --] (]) 20:04, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
			'''As For Distracting & Annoying, You're The Very 1st Person To Mention That & I've Been An Active Member On Misplaced Pages For Over 2 & 1/2 yrs. '''
	==Re: Your comment is welcome==
	Definitely not. I don't know why many users insist on deem Ashley and her songs R&B; her music has absolutely nothing R&B or urban about it. ] (]) 13:53, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
			'''Besides I've Seen People Use Colors Which Trust Me, Is 10x More Distracting.'''
	== RE: Ashley Tisdale Picture ==
			'''
			'''I Understand Why You Might Find It A Tad Annoying But I Swear It's Not My Intention To Annoy You/Anyone & It's Absolutely Not For Attention. Just A Habit. :-D'''
	You're right. I wasn't thinking about that when I switched the photo. If you know any sites with pictures of Ashley with a legal license, post it on my talk page. Sorry about the misunderstanding. ] (]) 15:09, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
			'''] (]) 19:59, 21 November 2008 (UTC)'''
	== I'm SO Frustrated! ==
			'''P.S. Sorry I Wrote So Much :-D'''
	First, I try to merge articles about identical minivans and know everyone hates me. Then I get this junk saying that the merge was sloppy and unproffesional in my talk page. So, I try to delete the page. But, I couldn't, so I blanked it out so no one can criticize me for putting together a sloppy article. I cane into Misplaced Pages to HELP make articles better, but now everyone wants to block me form helping! HELP!!! ] (]) 22:14, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
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	== ] / ] ==
			== Brandy Article Reply ==
	Hi, Kww. Your understanding appears to be correct; if you'll look at the talk pages of ] and ], you'll see the idea of a merger has been discussed at fair length over the last few years, and no consensus to merge has been attained. Brand-new user ] unilaterally decided to kludge the two together into a new article without any attempt to attain consensus, and the article he created (]) currently has 100% "delete" votes on its AfD page (NB the AfD advisory header was removed, apparently by ]; I have reinstated it). —] (]) 22:50, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
			:Just In Case You Don't Get Back To The Article, I Decided To Post My Reply Here. I Hope You Don't Mind. And I Took Out The Bold & Spaces In The Sentences For You.
	== Temple Endowment ==
			Firstly, What I Meant Was To Rename It "Brandy (entertainer)" Instead Of "Brandy Norwood", My Mistake For Forgetting To State That Part. Simply Because According To Wikipeda & I Quote "...use the most common name of a person or thing..." Basically The Most Recognizable Name. I See What You Were Saying Too. "...that does not conflict with the names of other people or things...". That's Why I Meant "Brandy (entertainer)" I Searched That Title & It Does Not Exist Or Redirect Anywhere. I Also Checked "Brandy Disambiguation" Just To Make Sure.
	Please help me understand why you feel the sources you've cited are accurate. I in fact have a copy of the book to which you site, and it does not contain the information you're claiming it to have. Also, the website you've linked to, how are we to ascertain that this site is accurate? <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 07:42, 10 February 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
			Brandy Is Not Only The Name People Know Her By But It's Also The Name She Uses Professionally As A Singer (On Her Albums) & Actress (Movies & TV Shows)
	:Kww, this may be a legitimate issue. The question of reliable, verifiable information regarding LDS temple ordinances or sacraments is virtually impossible to ascertain. The LDS church will not confirm or deny what takes place in their temples in as far as specific wordings are concerned. The question then becomes where does the information come from, which inevitably evolves into hearsay. However, I do think that Misplaced Pages policies continue to guide in these instances. There are undoubtedly statements published by individuals outside of the LDS church. Wording becomes of utmost importance; who said what and under what circumstances. If written in such a way as to not put Misplaced Pages in the position of stating "facts", then the path is made acceptable; that Mr. X, a .... has stated.... would seem acceptable.
			Secondly, Calling Her "Norwood" Throughout The Article Makes Sense, I Apparently Wasn't Fully Awake When I Made That Edit (lol)
	:If I am not mistaken there has been some discussion about copyrighted materials vis-a-vis the temple. This is outside of my expertise and I can provide no guidance. I don't know where the parameters are in this circumstance. --] ] 15:47, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
			'''] (]) 21:43, 21 November 2008 (UTC)'''
	Until a source can be found to verify the portions of the article in question, I am going to go ahead and remove them. --] 10 February 2008 (UTC)
	== Aretha ==		==How much longer==
			Ok, neither you or ] are answering any of my comments and the sockpuppet case on me is 10 days old and in the notes for the suspect it said if the the accuser didn't request check user in 10 days the case would be closed it's been ten days and it hasn't closed. Someone just pleae answer me. '''-'''] 00:36, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
			==Thank you==
	Hi. (Aretha's page seems to be getting a lot of attention this week!)<br>
	You reverted an edit and said: "inappropriate EL". I'm guessing EL means External Link(?) What's inappropriate about that EL? Thanks, ] (]) 13:02, 13 February 2008 (UTC)		Thanks for your conscientious efforts and hard work. UWC "will" drive you mad haha ] (]) 04:25, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
			== Question ==
	:Thanks for the explanation - I just couldn't understand; now I do! Cheers, ] (]) 10:34, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
			, I've seen people use it to skip around the "Brazil Hot 100" thing and using this for a "Brazil Singles Chart". Cheers. — ]] 15:06, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
	== Happy Valentine's Day! ==
			:It's a mirror. I updated ] to note that.&mdash;](]) 15:16, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
	] has wished you a happy Valentine's day, and good luck in love and friendship!]]
			::Thank you. :-) — ]] 15:21, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
			== UWC ==
	A short/sweet little message, which I hope has made your day better! Happy Valentine's Day!!! ] (]) 02:46, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
			The UWC is clearly on ], and that reference was clearly to the UWC. mediatraffic.de is already on Xlinkbot's list of sites to remove when it is added, and I am preparing for getting it placed on the spam blacklist. If you have an alternate source for information, please feel free to use it.&mdash;](]) 16:24, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
	== Oceanearth69 ==
			:(This discussion is in connection with changes made to ]) I'll leave your latest revert as is, but some comments as to why another user probably reverted your change, and I did it as well: It's a little confusing to point to a ] when the site name is not the same as the chart name, especially since part of that list deals with site names (URLs). It's also confusing that the site name is something that you ''intend'' to add to the list, but are already deleting entries before completing that task. It's also confusing that the depreciated list appears to be a list of articles that have been deleted, with the presumption that if the article is gone, that automatically blacklists the chart, and I don't see that as being necessarily so. It seems to me that charts, websites, and WP articles about charts and/or websites are three different things, and are being confusingly meshed together. I also wonder if the arguments against these charts, as presented in the article deletion logs, apply to the site or collection of charts as a whole, or just portions of it, and other portions might be reliable. I note that the depreciated chart list describes it as "United World Chart/Global Top 40 Albums" which could mean only a list of top 40 albums is in dispute (which is not the particular list being removed as a reference in the Wish You Were Here article). Hopefully these issues can be cleared up, otherwise deletions like this are going to be contested. --] (]) 16:54, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
			::The discussion was at ], and the consensus was that all those charts were to be deleted. The text we are talking about says "<nowiki>The album sold 21 million copies worldwide.<ref name=mediatr></ref></nowiki>. I don't know how much clearer a reference to the United World Chart can be. The reason I do this work ''before'' getting it on the spam blacklist is that it's confusing to people. They make another change in the article, and then can't save it because it contains the blacklisted URL. If I get all references out of article space first, that doesn't happen.&mdash;](]) 17:01, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
			:::Didn't notice one issue: "Global Top 40" is a mirror of the UWC album chart. I'll see if I can make that clearer in the listing.&mdash;](]) 17:04, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
			==Bling bling==
	Thanks for your note and for drawing my attention to the rest of this editor's edit history. I'll re-assess and extend the block accordingly. ] (]) 12:42, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
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	== RE: Slow down with the vandalism warnings ==		== May I Ask A Favor, Please? ==
	''The edits to ] that Vesperview made weren't vandalism, and your edit summaries and your warnings were inappropriate.] 02:45, 17 February 2008 (UTC)''
	:Who died and made you wikiboss? violates ]. deleted appropriately sourced information and added unsourced information. And lets look at few more of Vesperview's edits. deleted legitimate content. And violates ]. All in all, I'd say the composite of these edits constitutes vandalism, certainly deserving level 2 and 3 warnings. And while we're talking about vandalism, your edit violates Talk page policy by refactoring another editor's comments on a Talk page. I believe it is '''you''' who needs to slow down, step back, and think before slinging around warnings to other editors. Thank you. ] (]) 02:55, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
			'''I was wondering if you could help me with an editing problem.'''
			'''I was editing the music video section in the article "]" & I added a''' '''citation & quotes, along with some other things & now everything after the music video section is''' '''gone from the page but when I go to the edit page it's there. Since you have more experience can''' '''you help me? Please & thank you! '''
			'''] (]) 21:23, 23 November 2008 (UTC)'''
	== Elvira YouTube "Copyright Violation" Question ==
	Hi, I added a link to the "Zombie Killer" music video mentioned earlier in the aricle but you took it down citing "copyright violation" -- why did you do this and what do you mean? Whose copyright do you think is being violated? Please explain. Thanks! ] (]) 07:22, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
	The video is posted on the band's YouTube account, isn't that reason enough to believe that it's the band's video? It's Leslie Hall singing her song, in her video, on her YouTube account. I directed, shot, edited, and posted the video with Leslie herself. ] (]) 02:44, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
	== I understand, and broadly I agree but ==
			'''I didn't know how to fix it or what was wrong. Thank you for trying to help me.'''
	In the past I've argued quite strongly for third party sourcing and for ], creating the essay linked to there as well as suggesting ] and the no third party sources in ]. I think the differences tend to be in approaches. I want articles to be improved to such encyclopedic standards. I don't care so much about notability and the rest of it, I think they are red herrings. I would oppose the removal of information on Misplaced Pages because that is against ]. I would support the improving of articles and where an article improves Misplaced Pages, the flexibility of guidance to be taken into account. I don't believe in hard rules, and I don't believe commentaries are self published. I'm interested to hear how the actual episodes are not self published though. I would support any consequences that emerge through a collegiate ], and ] any which were enforced arbitrarily. I think it's not so much recognizing your point as you recognising mine. :) ] <small>] </small> 21:57, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
	*And yet they have chosen to publish those views. Tricky one, granted, but I think a lot of that is legalese to protect against possible law suits. My thinking on it is this: A newspaper seeks the opinions of people to publish in its pages on its commentary pages. Are those self-published? If not, then how are the opinions of these people which the publishing company has sought to publish any different? ] <small>] </small> 10:43, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
	**Newspapers publish opinion by commentators because they know readers will buy the newspaper instead to read that opinion, not because they have any interest or exert editorial control over them. It's exactly the same. The same as comic strips published in newspapers. It's about making the product marketable or attractive to consumers, so there is an editorial choice in there, based upon commerce, agreed, but there none the less. I would also expect that one couldn't directly libel in a commentary, I would expect a legal department to have authorised release, therefore there is editorial input over content. Of course if you have evidence of a dvd commentary being the target in a libel source, I'd be all ears, since that would clarify the position. I hope I have detailed for you why I believe commentaries are the same as any other content which is published by a third party to that which created it. We're not going to have to move into discussing whether a newspaper is self-published, for example, are we? ] <small>] </small> 11:32, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
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			==New Fiction proposal==
			Just a heads up, a proposal I informally made a while ago has now been formally offered at ]. The aim is to identify a pragmatic approach that reflects what is actually done on AfD, as opposed to an ideological approach. So while it's unlikely to appeal to partisans on either side, I think it represents a good and workable compromise. Any comments at ] will be greatly appreciated. ] (]) 00:22, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
			== Ashley Tisdale ==
			Hey, are you or were you reviewing Ashley Tisdale's article? --<span style="font-family:Times New Roman">] </span><span style="font-family:Times New Roman">]</span> <span style="font-family:Times New Roman">]</span> 18:43, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
			:Of course not, I would never do that to an article. I would be happy to take over the review, as I noticed some things that need to be fixed, that's if your cool with it. --<span style="font-family:Times New Roman">] </span><span style="font-family:Times New Roman">]</span> <span style="font-family:Times New Roman">]</span> 18:50, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
			::Thank you for your blessing. :) --<span style="font-family:Times New Roman">] </span><span style="font-family:Times New Roman">]</span> <span style="font-family:Times New Roman">]</span> 18:52, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
			== Netherlands chart ==
			, a little confused. Thank you in advance. — ]] 18:53, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
			== RFC update ==
			I know it's been a long and tedious process. But the analysis of the RFC discussion is underway, so that an objective party can give an honest assessment of the common ground. One of the analysts requested some context on the dispute. So I'm trying to help him out. You'd be helping things along if you could check in quickly at , if only to offer a quick comment. I'm asking you because I know you've been involved pretty heavily throughout the dispute, and have seen all kinds of opposition to ]. ] (]) 07:14, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
			== DJ, Take Me Away ==
			Hmm, I'd say just merge them all to a list. ] and his otters • <sup>(] • ] • ])</sup> 02:31, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
			== White slavery ==
			Yes, I did see the subsection, but the article seemed to deal with the concept in a historical sense, so I thought it better simply to link to the article as a whole. No biggie either way. And yes, in the month that the US has elected a black president, to keep using terms like that . . . --] (]) 01:38, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
			==CHARTS==
			so... why you leave all americatop100.com charts and deleted Chile charts with this source too? Ecuador, Bolivia, Mexico, Colombia... you leave these and deleted only chile charts? and you deleted CHILE TOP 100 but leave ARGENTINA TOP 40? suck! TOP LATINO is sourced for a blog and no DELETED? i dont understand ... <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 17:42, 29 November 2008 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
			] <-- This is a Blog!!! and continue in Misplaced Pages and ] <--- This is by Americatop100.com a unofficial website and you deleted all Chile Top 100 sourced by these and Mexico Top 100 continue here...? explain me please.
			(]) 17:50, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
			yeah ... sure this is all so stupid other blogs charts continue here and others charts with the same source are deleted and other no... <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 18:10, 29 November 2008 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
			== Unblocking ==
			Can you please unblock me and "PopSinger623". We really want to make articles and things like that. We really didn't do anything wrong. We are in the same ip address so we can't make articles on either one of our user names. Help us! :(
			] (]) 21:30, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
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	== Bleep again ==		== RE: Popsinger ==
			Hello,
	I agree also that the lead should reflect the scientific viewpoint, and yes I too thought we were in the clear and had something that would please everyone. I don't know who reverted what since the whole thing happened quickly in the space of 1/2 an hour, while I was away from my computer. Thanks for your explanation and visit.(] (]) 01:00, 23 February 2008 (UTC))
	:I'm considering filing a user conduct RfC. I think we have a case of ]. What do you think? ] (]) 20:22, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
	::I was just opening up the edit window for your talk page when I got the "new messages" window. I'm there. This isn't a discussion, it's just a prolonged tantrum.] (]) 20:24, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
	:::User warned anyway. Give 'em a chance to change. After that, one further user warning is required from a different user. ] (]) 09:06, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
	::::As you have inquired about this, and have been named as a user attempting to resolve the dispute, the RfC has been created ]. If you would care to counter-sign it I will list it officially (feel free to do so yourself). ] (]) 20:41, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
			I restored his 'bogus article' per . The user didn't know how to restore it from the history, and you can see I unblocked him, an administrator had told me to write an article, or expand one per if he wished to be unbanned, so I felt that he should be allowed to edit his user talk.
	== HI ==
			]]] 15:18, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
	Hi - thanks for your comments on my comments. I decided I would agree with you for the sake of unity in disruption &c but I don't really like it, just for reasons of style. Btw Dean Radin clearly makes assertions about the paranormal in the film, so there is a citation there, though I agree 'legitimate science' is harder to put your finger. I absolutely hate 'quantum mysticism' for the usual reason, i.e. to general and vague to be useful. It can mean 'philosophical' interpretations of genuine science - something that genuine scientists are prone to - which is suspect for philosophical rather than scientific reasons, or it can mean blatantly inaccurate or bad science. The quotations by Lynne McTaggart in my sandbox are of the second variety. ] (]) 08:04, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
	== Re:Arbitrator Vote ==		== I Hate This Part ==
			Alright, I understand about the German chart and I will try to find a reliable one, but what's wrong with the Bulgaria singles chart? It's definitely more reliable than the media traffic charts. ] (]) 17:52, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
	Sorry. Can it be deleted or moved? ] (]) 14:06, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
	:Thank you. ] (]) 14:11, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
			alright gotcha!
	== Thanks ==
	For helping me with the link thingy. ] (]) 15:52, 29 February 2008 (UTC)		] (]) 00:47, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
	== Good one! ==		==re: Being ignored at ANI==
			Hey there, which incident should I be looking at? The link you gave me just brings up the main page without directing me to a particular section. - ] (]) 21:04, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
			== Hello ==
	Lol... Ok, Kww, you had me there for a minute.... good ....(] (]) 20:22, 1 March 2008 (UTC))
			Hello, Kww. I want to ask if you can delete an page that i created that is called 'User:Rogerchocodiles/monobook.css', which i downloaded from another person, an theme for Misplaced Pages, but i hate it.. Please remove that page! <font face="Century Gothic">]</font> 09:58, 2 December 2008 (UTC)Rogerchocodiles
	== Re: ] ==
			==Can you check this?==
	I appreciate your voice of support in my notice on the ] about the speedy deletion of foreign language articles and the outcome really disturbs me. The fact that someone took it upon themselves to close the incident and accuse me of being "out for blood" instead of addressing the fact the articles are not available for translation to anyone but the specified user really disturbs me. I'm not sure if I should bother escalating this further. What do you think? ] (]) 14:52, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
			Can I get your opinion on something? Honestly, tell me if I'm overstepping here... I'm kind of in a disagreement with ] because s/he feels that an album review from '']'' does not belong in the '']'' article. Basically, he keeps removing it; I keep putting it back. His claim is that the album review is "too short" and "not detailed enough". I realize it's not a pages-long review, but my argument is that ''The Times'' is a very reputable publication and the review's length should not matter — this is not a blog we're talking about here. There is a discussion on the album's Talk Page, if you want to chime in. This is not a huge deal, I just want some fresh eyes on it in case I'm being ridiculous. Thanks. - ] (]) 12:43, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
	== ] ==		== stop vandalizing ==
			Please, stop vandalizing the article Enjoy the Ride (song). There are many, many other song articles which haven't charted in any of the charts and are still separated atricles, so I don't understand why you keep wanting Enjoy the Ride not to be a separated article. STOP THAT!!! Will it make your life easier if you keep doing this....??? ] (]) 19:05, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
	Actually I reverted the same edit as you using ] and warned the user but the site was loading up pretty slowly for me for about thirty seconds so it looks like your edits got in there first. --] <sup><font face="Calibri">''] ♦ ]''</font></sup> 18:42, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
	== Thanks ==		== enjoy the ride ==
	Thanks Kww....But I'm afraid that kind of behaviour is offensive whatever or whoever is the target, but thanks very much for your comment.(] (]) 22:28, 9 March 2008 (UTC))		Oh My God...what do you have against this article... stop being rude ] (]) 19:28, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
	:I know. Thanks. I really appreciate your comment.(] (]) 22:38, 9 March 2008 (UTC))
	::No .... I won't be run off altogether but have to consider what, if, and when, its worth the time and the negativity. Thanks, though.(] (]) 21:04, 15 March 2008 (UTC))
	== Your message on O's page ==		== I had a question from Tau'ri278 ==
			Hi i am ], I am from the Stargate Wikia and we just had a problem with someone whos name was 'Kwwsucks' and we assumed he had a run-in with you. Have you had any problems here with anyone of that name? or anyone at all? This guy/girl seems like they just want attention and are willing to vandalize pages to get it.
	Just to say I'm not confusing editors. I really don't understand where she is coming from. I am trying to keep my cool, nonetheless. ] (]) 18:59, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
			If you have any infromation on this please write to me on my ]. Thank you for the help in advance.
	== Curacao ==
			] (]) 01:19, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
	No, I was just outdated. Sorry. When I lived there only Dutch and Papiamento were official languages. Spanish was widely spoken due to many factors such as the broadcasting of Venezuelan television, and French was the most popular option of language being learned in high schools. ~] <sup><b>«]»</b></sup> 20:25, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
			Thanks Kww,
	== Regarding WTB protection ==
			I looked into it and i think you might be correct in assuming this leonhart/zbeeblebrocks guy. I will inform some people at Stargate Wikia about him, I don't know if he has changed as it looks like he did here or if maybe a younger sibling or idiotic friend got the same idea. Oh well, thank you and we will continue to have our eyes out on his progress.
			Live Long and Prosper,
	Regarding WTB "baiting" , I draw attention to , where, in a section that was directly addressed to you, requesting you to stop changing the final paragraph; where olive, MartinPhi, and myself had all agreed that your changes were not improving things; where olive and MartinPhi had both requested me to revert your changes, you simply refused to listen or modify your behaviour, and instead accused me of repeating myself. Of course I repeated myself ... you repeatedly didn't listen. Instead, you made exactly the changes that you had been specifically requested multiple times not to make.] (]) 17:09, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
			] (]) 01:36, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
			== Permanently banning myself and others ==
	:(1) Addressing an editor directly in an edit summary in a concise and neutral tone as I did in the edit above, where my edit summary was '''''"r to kww"''''' is not baiting.
	:(2) Your summary of the events is blatantly false, the editors you cite:
	::(a) do not make a consensus (Misplaced Pages is not a democracy) and
	::(b) both editors have disputed (strongly) your false "claims of consensus"
			I was a bit surprised to see you calling for the ban of myself, ], ], and ] for life . Would you care to justify your remark? ] | (] - ]) 02:44, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
	:In short, you are utterly refuted by the facts. ] (]) 17:18, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
			== Thoughts ==
	==The Martinphi-ScienceApologist Interview==
	''What is the role of science in producing authoritative knowledge? How should Misplaced Pages report on pseudoscience?'' Veterans of numerous edit wars and talk page battles spanning dozens of articles across Misplaced Pages, ] and ] will go head to head on the subject of '''Misplaced Pages, Science, and Pseudoscience''' in a groundbreaking interview to be published in an upcoming issue of ]. ] will moderate the discussion. Post suggested topics and questions at page. ] (]) 17:11, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
			Do you think branching out a section for unreliable web links was good. My feeling was the chart section was starting to look a little complicated, to a section dedicated to web links seems wise. — ]] 21:26, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
	==Mandolin==
	I mean no disrespect but you should acquaint yourself with mandolin history, and mind the ] rule.] (]) 00:08, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
			== ? ==
	== Happy First Day of Spring! ==
			I don't know what you're talking about.. I make contributions to Wiki! Not all the time. So, how are you? <font face="Calibri">]</font> 11:10, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
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			Can you sign my ]? Please.. <font face="Calibri">]</font> 11:21, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
	== RE: Miley Cyrus ==
			Sorry that. I will contribute better but i'm just an normal user! <font face="Calibri">]</font> 15:16, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
	There's an article on USAtoday.com that says that the name change is official. There are plenty of other sources; just check Yahoo! News. ] (]) 15:22, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
	== Re: Tricordia ==		== :-( ==
			:-) — ]] 16:39, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
	About the redirect, sometimes it takes a few minutes for Misplaced Pages to update their servers so that's why it might not have been working right away. --<font color="blue">]</font> <font color="green">]</font> <sup>]|]</sup> 23:09, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
	== Hey ==		== Don't! ==
			The positions of "Don't!" on the Billboard charts are clearly located at the top of the page that is sourced. ] (]) 16:40, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
	Hi KWW I just wanted to notify you that here are some articles that i have nominated for deletion and if you have time please can I have your say in the matter of whether they shall be deleted or not : ], ] and ]. Thankyou ] ] 04:43 UTC ], ].
			== You're probably unaware… ==
	== WHY ==
			…That you have a query ], specifically asking for you. ]] 06:09, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
	I don't Understand what is happening, I though you were allowed to make user pages? ],] 01:30 UTC, ], ].
			== Re comments on Talk:Miley Cyrus ==
	== Hi ==
			The comment I removed was made by one of the socks that inserted the original rumor from the gossip site. I was just cleaning up. --] 18:05, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
	ok, so is my user page ok now? and by the way I am just trying to improve[REDACTED] I mean I love editing wikipedia, iv'e just made lots of ] articles and built it up from being a stub... so I am trying... ] ]01:33 UTC, ], ]
			== World Singles Official Top 100 ==
	== Ok ==
			So the World Singles Official Top 100 is part of top40-charts.com? Ok, then, but please say so in the edit summary in future, as the link you provided was inadequate to prove the chart was amongst the dodgy ones. Thanks, ] <sup>] ]</sup> 15:36, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
	I will take that into account... and by the way how long have you been a wikipedian?? ]] 01:49 UTC, ], ].
	==calm down==		== D'oh! ==
			I forgot to suggest adding that to the article...ARGHHHHH!--] ] 21:15, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
	Seriously, man, you are beginning to scare me. What's with all the high drama and blustering? An ANI report? Why? What for? Perhaps you should take a healthy dose of ] and consider taking a break. Seriously. ] (]) 20:05, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
			== Punkox ==
	:Look, if an administrator thinks that an edit requested does not have consensus or is controversial they can turn it down. It's as simple as that. Your obsession with the rules should take a dose of ] once and a while. Trust me on this one: you're not going to get anywhere with this appeal to authority. ] (]) 20:11, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
			It seems like they're starting to do this here again. See edit where they put their edit back using their ip (dynamic, I think you know that by now?). You were also right about that they don't seem to act upon warnings. Any suggestions? --<small><span style="border:1px solid #0000ff;padding:1px;">] : ] </span></small> 22:53, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
	== Aaarrrrgggghhhhh!!!!!!!!! ==
			:Block Punkox indef, semi-protect all the Jessica Simpson articles for a few weeks.&mdash;](]) 23:50, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
			::Seems like NrDg got this one, I think. --<small><span style="border:1px solid #0000ff;padding:1px;">] : ] </span></small> 00:28, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
			== Your note on my talkpage re: SSP ==
	There, now I feel a tiny bit better. Thanks for listening. This stuff drives me absolutely crazy; I admire your patience. ] (]) 21:43, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
			Hey, thanks for the explanation! I think my reluctance to wade in is more about that "reasonable doubt" bit--people in my real life know: I am a doormat. Give me the SLIMMEST splinter to hang good faith on, and I'm right in there believing... til I get stepped on. But from what you showed, some of them are just flat-out blatantly obvious--maybe I'll get my feet wet by doing a couple of those. Thanks for the encouragement! ] 04:28, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
	Thanks for the smile. ] (]) 01:16, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
			== Thanks for your support ==
	==Hypnotize Minds==
	Looks legit to me; a search for this and other keywords turned up some decent hits. I'mm too lazy to source it right now, however. I don't see Yung D's nname anywhere on it either; that was possibly vandalism that got nixed. ] <small>and his otters</small> • <sup>(]•])</sup> 01:23, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
			Now it will be your turn. We need to get all three of the Holloway Trio up there!--] (]) 12:02, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
	==RfC==
	I've started drafting a user conduct RfC that you might be interested in ]. There's a lot of evidence to locate, sift through and present, so I think it will take awhile to get it put together. If you'd like to participate, please feel free to do so. ] (]) 06:40, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
	== Oh yeah? ==		== Charts ==
			Sorry about what's been happening recently, I feel like I'm opening a can of worms, a can I should probably reseal before I do more damage than it's worth. Me and you share pretty much the same philosophy when it comes to this stuff. — ]] 18:28, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
			== I'm Sorry ==
	I'd explain to you why I'm so apathetic but I can't be bothered. ] (]) 02:22, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
			I'm sorry if you thought I ] ], well I did not ] that page, I deleted the top talk page rule becuase I thought it is a ] and anyone can edit a talk page there way. ] (]) 02:24, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
			== ] ==
	== Miley Cyrus name change source ==
			Hi there,
	Please give me the dircet link to the source, if you're nice :)
	Thank you for telling me that. --] (]) 15:55, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
			Sorry about that, I missed some of those links! Protected for 2 weeks as requested.
	:http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20184814,00.html Is this the link? --] (]) 15:59, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
			]]] 21:09, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
	:: Thank you very much for the quick answer, yeah well you know the media always do stuff like that :( Very nice speeking to you though :) --] (]) 16:06, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
			==Motormater and Override (Transformers)==
	==Re: Twilight Zone==
			Can we at least have a talk about the method of merge on the talk pages? Shouldn't this be up on the talk pages of those articles for a little bit, while people who write about the character discuess what to merge onto what pages? ] (]) 22:51, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
	Agreed; I just wonder who told Paris she could sing. lol Anyway, I've just , hope that was helpful. ] (]) 17:24, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
	== Bleep again ==		== HELLO~ ==
			I prefer someone call me Frankie instead of Brian Yau~
	Thanks for your note apprising me that you're still on the job at Bleep; I thought everyone had given up on it, so I'm glad you haven't. I really can't muster the energy or enthusiasm to start again, but I hope you can find others who can. There is at least one regular editor there who really drives me up the wall (you probably know who I'm talking about) and I had assumed that the frustrating interaction with that person would be the thing that would drive me away, if I decided I couldn't work there any more, but in the end it was SA's intransigence that put me over the edge and made me feel "This just isn't worth the aggravation." My exasperation probably showed in my comment on the fringe noticeboard page; I hadn't realized that there was a time when the statement wasn't put together right, and that's the version they saw.] (]) 19:19, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
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	==] disc page==
			==Image copyright problem with File:Sarah Geronimo.jpg==
	On this : http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Talk%3ACassie_%28singer%29&diff=202173338&oldid=202172144. <br> It is better for the questions\rumours\I wonders 2 be on disc page than in article. Plus removing it make cause some 1 2 add the info in2 the article bc they dont c it mentioned on the disc page.<br>
			Thanks for uploading ]. The image has been identified as not specifying the copyright status of the image, which is required by Misplaced Pages's policy on images. If you don't indicate the copyright status of the image on the image's description page, using an appropriate ], it may be deleted some time in the next seven days. If you have uploaded other images, please verify that you have provided copyright information for them as well.
	Im all for the rumours not being in the article, but sensoring it in the disc page is uncalled 4.<br>] doenst says sensor disc pages!] (]) 00:04, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
	:Actually, ] isn't specific to articles. If it isn't suitable for the article, it isn't suitable for the talk page.] (]) 00:23, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
	Well if BLP isnt the rule then Mdsummer was wrong 2 cite is.<br>
	''If it isn't suitable for the article, it isn't suitable for the talk page.''<-Where is this rule stated?<br>
	If not on disc page where do u expect diff info 2 be hashed out & decided on?
	If Mdsummer was gonna fix the page s\he shoulda blanked it. Reading Cassie went to with is stupid. ] (]) 04:34, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
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	== Celine Dion ==		==Joyeux Noël==
			], Kevin. --] (]) 03:08, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
			== Season's Greetings ==
	Just because I was not able to find a credible source on the internet that confirms how much dick Ms. Dion sucks, yet and could very well be an insane amount, does not mean it’s not worth noting nor is it vandalism. But I'll be sure to cite my reference in the future before making any changes to any other articles. Thanks. <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 17:26, 3 April 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
			] (]) 01:45, 27 December 2008 (UTC)]]
	== Careful, there ==
			] (]) 19:35, 27 December 2008 (UTC)]]
			==Re: Comments about LyricWiki==
	You've violated ] at ]. I never block for that without warning unless the violation was flagrant, though, which yours really wasn't. But don't revert on that page again today. ] (]) 21:48, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
			I don't have a problem with your edits, but your comments such as ''"it's simply copyright violation on a massive scale." are incorrect. LyricWiki actually does pay royalties. True, not to all, but not due to lack of effort. Many publishers have been contacted, but most haven't responded to the site owner's attempts. From what the owner's been told, LyricWiki is one of only three lyrics sites that pay royalties. Thanks. ] (]) 04:35, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
			== Image for deletion discussion you should know about ==
	==] ==
			I saw you recently deleted ] from Carolyn Arends. There is a image and media for deletion discussion going on at ]. ] (]) 15:03, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
	Just to let you know, the user wasn't saying "fuck" in his/her edit summaries. He was referring us to ] as a reason for removing the image. I don't think that typical vandal warnings were appropriate in this case.--] ] 21:56, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
	:It's okay we all make mistakes sometimes :)--] ] 21:27, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
			== ] edit ==
	== Barnstar ==
			You removed a large section from ]. Your initial comment was something to the effect that an improper attribution was supplied; however, you didn't bother to provide any guidance on how to cite the text you deleted. Rather than simply vent your spleen by deleting things, please make an actual contribution to Misplaced Pages by assisting with creation of an appropriate citation.
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	|style="vertical-align: middle; border-top: 1px solid gray;" | We all make mistakes while reverting vandalism and in general (myself included), but there's no need to let this get us down. Keep up the good work. ] ] 22:32, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
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			I have restored the text. Your current comment that says your edit was obviously correct is erroneous. If the edit was self evident then I wouldn't be objecting. <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 16:41, 30 December 2008 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
	== Please be fair ==
			== Image Replacement ==
	why did you revert the edits of the Nicole Wray pages. You can't keep reposting false information and undoing other edits by other editors. Misplaced Pages is here for everyone to contribute. Therefore, I will add them back tomorrow. This is just a warning. ] (]) 02:26, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
			''This commet is from ].''
			] Image needs to be replaced with a screenshot of the title, is there anybody who is able to accept my request? ] (]) 19:24, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
	== Not a sock ==
			== Go fuck yourself!... ==
	I know what you are talking about and who, but do not provoke over a few edits as I was only contributing information like what Misplaced Pages said. If you can not handle someone helping out then I think you need to take some time off. ] (]) 02:29, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
			Delete this!... ] (]) 14:31, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
	== Stop Vandalizing and Calling People Sockpuppets ==
			Whiner!... You try to prevent people from doing their job just because they're trying to remove their own words from a talk page!... That's petty!... I was just doing my job and just because you son of a bitch got insulted you blocked me, huh? Never mind, I never intended to keep talking to you. Well, apparently you don't like to delete things!... Maybe you like to be insulted or ass kicked!... Oh, but don't worry, I have many ways to proceed my job: another computer, or perhaps using another person's account that might "lend" it to me!... We're through!... ] (]) 10:51, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
	You need to stop calling people sockpuppets. I have review your contributions and all you have done is revert edits, call people sockpuppets, block users who bring new edits to the table, and say that soccermeko is to blame. Soccermeko is not on this website, if you don't know he doesn't care about Misplaced Pages anymore. On top of that, you have re-add false information along with ]. I beginning to think that your a sockpuppet of ]. But on top of this note, Misplaced Pages is for everyone to edit and not for you to keep protecting the same pages. New information is being contributed and no matter how many people you accuse for things they will most likely start again. ] (]) 14:39, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
			== G.-M. Cupertino ==
	== Nicole Wray and Yolanda Johnson reverts ==
			I see that you're having some trouble with Mr. Cupertino as well. He's been a problem editor for a lot of us, which is why I had an arbitration case taken against him. I'm not entirely sure how it works once the case is open, but as I understand it you are welcome to say something if you want to. The arbitration request is here for you to see, but don't post here: ]. If you're willing to include evidence, then post it here: ]. Thanks. ] (]/]) 17:00, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
	Please stop reverting those page. We all know that Nicole's new album is called "Changes". She stated it on myspace. If you look under "songs", you will see the album name called "Changes". But also, one of the producers from her production team has also confirmed the album to be called "Changes". Please stop re-adding your incorrect information. Whether myspace is not a appropriate source, you still have the proof and the proof of .
			==Interested in joining?==
	Now for Yolanda's page. First of all, Yolanda's last name is Johnson, as case for the early life part. Second, Sweet Yesterday is a ep, and Violet Flower was a album. So you stop reverting that. Third, Leo Jones was talk about before she began the song. You wouldn't know that because you do not have the EP. What you don't know, you should leave to other members and stop blaming Soccermeko by saying that, "Soccermeko is back". Whether he back or not it doesn't matter because you do not/will not/cannot shut out one member for adding something true. Pay attention to the edits and not just yourself. ] (]) 14:56, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
			We need good people: ] - ] (]) 13:42, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
	== Reverts ==		== Secret Page: I quit ==
			I'm no longer anymore finding secret pages. But i'm planning to make contributions to Wiki soon. I'm sorry i can't donate to Misplaced Pages, i'm too young and i don't have a credit card. Happy New Year! '''<font face="Rockwell">]''']</font> 16:38, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
	It's hopeless to keep adding wrong information to the Nicole Wray page. Whether you protect it or not, I will keep re-adding back. ] (]) 16:30, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
	== RE: Headstrong Neiva ==		== RE:Hero ==
	This is the English Misplaced Pages, and there are lots of English reviews. How many English Wikipedians can read Portuguese? And where do we draw the line? Shall we insert links to reviews in every conceivalbe language to any Misplaced Pages article? I don't want to get into an argument over this. If you wish to revert my edit, go ahead and I'll leave it alone. But I would seriously question the logic of what you're doing. ] (]) 21:05, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
			Unless it is on ANI, I don't see discussion as wasted time. I am aware of BRD, I cite it often, and if you had taken the time to look at the talkpage, you would have noticed there was advance warning of what I was going to do, and that it was you who did not get involved in the discussion. This is an extraordinary cover that is taking an extraordinary amount of space in the original article. A cover version is not relevant to the original artist. A cover that sells 500,000 copies is notable in its own right. ] (]) 00:58, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
	: With all due respect, I'm getting more than a little tired of you self-righteously telling me (and probably many others) what to do. You've done this to me, quite unjustifiably, in the past, as well as refactoring my comments on someone's talk page. I'll revert my comment on the talk page, and I'll also be watching your edits. Thank you. ] (]) 21:16, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
			== United World Chart ==
	After looking the up the information in a reliable source and giving it considerable thought, I concluded that is vandalism. Would it meet with your approval if I placed a level one warning on the editor's talk page, or will I get a "request" from you to tone it down? ] (]) 21:36, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
			Sorry, I won't do it again. - ] (]) 16:48, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
			==Symptoms of You (Lindsay Lohan song)==
	== Exmormon article ==
	KWW, we could use a bit of help on the ] article. I found you by looking through the Enodwment page. I hope you can provide a fresh pair of eyes to the article. ] (]) 14:20, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
			someone created an article for a lindsay lohan song ''], it was never a single..it should not have a page.....i think it should be deleted as soon as possible....can u help me nominate it for deletition........
	== Re: ] ==
			] (]) 09:40, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
	Tommy2.net is an extremely reliable source. It's even more reliable than Wiki. Everything they've posted has been true so far. ] (]) 22:25, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
	:It's more reliable than most other websites. You will NEVER be able to find a website that doesn't post the truthful things. ] (]) 00:29, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
	::You know, you're really starting to p me off. I know what I've posted is true. She confirmed it herself today on the Radio Disney interview 4 hours ago. I know what I have is true. This reminds me of JoJo saying that she got banned from Misplaced Pages for adding correct information to her own page. ] (]) 02:11, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
	:::Don't bother writing back. I probably won't answer. ] (]) 02:11, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
			I am not deleting the archive of the N. Parker section, there is no reason, its my page. <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 22:48, 9 January 2009 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
	== Identified ==
			== Punkox ==
			I to NrDg, as he was the original blocking admin of {{userlinks|Punkox}}. I wouldn't quibble if you blocked him yourself.&mdash;](]) 23:47, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
	Are sites actually allowed to put false information on them? because it isn't right because it gives people wrong information. ] 14:44, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
			:Hey there. Thanks for the heads up on the vandal. I was away, but it looks like all is settled and the user is blocked. Thanks. ] ] 02:31, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
			KWW, I DELETED THE ISSUE AND NOW ITS BACK ON THERE, I DELETED AND I WANTED IT GONE. <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 05:25, 10 January 2009 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
	== Identified ==
			==Re: Chart guide==
	Ok then, I cannot find reliable sources like her official site or myspace, so I suppose I will change my statement and we will have to wait until some proper information is announced. By the way, how do you know if it is a reliable source? ] 15:00 (UTC)
			Yes, it's definitely useful. Just one question: why is the word "Ultratop" everywhere? I also didn't quite figure out what each symbol means; perhaps an explanatory legend could help. I also noticed there are a few missing links, such as that of the and the certifications. ] (]) 17:16, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
			:Are you sure about Ultratop operating the other sites? I thought did so. Anyhow, I thought it might be a good idea to use the link names, such as 'LesCharts.com', 'ItalianCharts.com', and so on, so as to avoid any possible confusion—it's just a thought. I'll fill in a few empty spaces; let me know if you find something you don't agree with. ] (]) 17:50, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
	== Identified ==
			== Funny one ==
	Now I have changed my statement, and are you an administrator? ] 15:07 (UTC)
			] 00:41, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
	what is unconstructive about my information. It is sourced and common knowledge anyhow. I am autistic. ] (]) 03:38, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
	== Dog ==		== PopSinger623 ==
			Well, the user contacted me, and I assumed good faith. It is easy enough to reblock, and I (or any admin) will do so at the slightest sign of a resumption of previous behavior, as I indicated in the unblock message. ] ] 01:58, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
	So how about I just to a rev as good faith. We went through all of this yesterday. The user is prbably the same user as yesterday that got blocked. --<font color="gray"><sub>]</sub></font> 23:59, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
	::Thanks --<font color="gray"><sub>]</sub></font> 00:06, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
			:If I unblocked him, that means I take responsibility for that unblock. I unblocked the user because he said he wanted to edit productively. If he shows any signs of not, he will be blocked again. No big deal. ] ] 02:02, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
	== Nicole Wray rv ==
			::And thus, reblocked. ] ] 02:05, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
	Please do not revert the page. Misplaced Pages is made for free editing. You can not stop somebody from adding information if you do not like it. And for me, don't bother nominating me as a sockpuppet because I am no. This time your dealing with a different person. ] (]) 00:36, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
			:::No damage was done. ] ] 02:18, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
	== review me please ==
			== Oops... ==
	Please review me.--] <small>(] | ] | ] | ] | ])</small> <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 13:41, 23 April 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
			Soory about that. I found it with no deletion notice and I had no idea it was a reposted AfD deletion. Thanks for letting me know. How can I help fix the problem? --] (]) 04:08, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
	== Thanks for the revert! ==
			*On my way. Thanks for alerting me. --] (]) 04:10, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
	Hi there,
			OK, she's gone on a four-day vacation. Talk to ya soon. --] (]) 04:13, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
	Thanks for the revert to my Editor Review - I only just saw it now!
			All set. It's admin only now. Signing off...--] (]) 04:23, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
	] ] ] <sup>]</sup> 20:34, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
	== You've been mentioned ==		== Just Dance ==
			Hey Kww, can you please check "]" to see whether the divisions for the charts in 2008 and 2009 are correct? I'm not exactly sure. Please help. ] ] (]) 06:04, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
	as a thought you might like to know.
			:Hey can you come to ] for a discussion on where a single should be placed if it charts in two different years. P.S. : I would appreciate if you would atleast reply back to my messages. ] (]) 13:16, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
	] (]) 00:31, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
			::No probs, but we do need to form an opinion about this situation, ], ], ] all have different opinion about it. ] (]) 13:25, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
			== My Life Would Suck Without You (Kelly Clarkson Single) ==
	== Ay Blood My Bad ==
	Didn`t know it wuz copyrite. My bad. Promise i aint gon do it next tyme. Aiight. ] (]) 01:12, 25 April 2008 (UTC)		Hi, thanks for the message. I have protected the ] as you suggest. It will expire at 02:55 on the 19th. Kind regards, --] (]) 02:59, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
	== Sockpuppetry ==		==Rihanna==
			yeah, u right sorry ] (]) 15:18, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
			== ] ==
	Hello Kww, I just want to say thank you for believing that I am not a sockpuppet. I know that there is evidence against these accounts, however Exclusive_474 is my brother who also goes on wikipedia, but he does have the same interests as me, but is quite inexperienced and Piece-of-Me-08 is my best friend who is also inexperienced. However I truly do not know who Insomniatic_999 is. Also the other account Motion-In-The-Ocean is my cousin who uses this account when he is over at my house. Thanks for your support. ] (]) 07:55, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
			Thank you Kww for voting in my successfully closed RfA! I'm glad that you trust me. Ping me if you need anything (I hope I can be useful for you now!). Best regards, --<small><span style="border:1px solid #0000ff;padding:1px;">] : ] </span></small> 18:24, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
			==Independent sourcing for Elements of Fiction==
			I believe you have expressed the opinion that current draft of ] is too lax on the grounds that independent sources are required to demonstrate that an element of fiction is in some way notable. Instead, could you accept the arguement that an element of fiction that is the subject of substantial real-world coverage from a reliable source could demonstrate notability at some point in the future? It would not be unreasonable to assume that if there is good quality coverage from sources that are not independent, then an element of fiction may be important enough for independent commentators to write about it as well. If you agree this may be the case, then perhaps we can compromise on the current draft of ], and this guideline can be rolled out for community approval. I feel agreement on this version is close, so I would be grateful if you could give serious consideration to making you willingness to compromise on this point at ]. --] (]) 10:44, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
	== Block ==		== BLACK LIST ==
			I'm gonna put in a request, but for now, that will have to do. Did you even go to the URL? <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 02:19, 19 January 2009 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
	Hi, by the way i was just wondering, how long does an indefinate block last? ] (]) 14:37, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
	== Thanks ==		== Well... ==
			I suggest you don't edit their page if you've never heard of them. I'm not being mean and I'm not saying you have to be a super fan. Anyway that URL is to the band members official ] blog. The news was so new, the reporters weren't on it yet. Anyway, I suggest you go to that URL if you need proof. As I said. "IF YOU GO INTO EDIT MODE, YOU CAN SEE THE URL I GOT THE INFO FROM." <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 02:33, 19 January 2009 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
	Thanks mate, I am just abit worried that I will be blocked indefinately because I LOVE to edit wikipedia. ] (]) 14:42, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
			:Well, I'll put in a request to take it off. But I copied the entry so you could see for yourself</br>
	== RE: ==
			*Wednesday, December 31, 2008</br>
			'''HAPPY New YEAR!!!'''</br>
			As I commence on my annual New Years ritual of cleaning out all the junk in my room ( I tend to be a pack rat) I realized I have more than just materials to clear out before 09. I have lots of emotions both good and bad that need to be put in their proper place. Many of you gave me great memories and pictures, scrap books, and letters and bottles of patron, lol, that I got caught up reminiscing for hours on my bedroom floor. I re-lived moments, remembered some of my favorite fans, wondered how they were doing and how they feel about the changes that are taking place.
			In these last two years I've experienced some great accomplishments but also some of the deepest depression and unhappiness I've experienced in my life. Going through the pictures I remembered how hard the fight was to look that happy for our fans. replayed all the different issues going on under that top layer that was presented to the public. And how getting those reactions and letters was the only way I could do it again in the next city. Our blessing sometime come in disguise, so being fired doesnt always mean what you think.</br>
			I know there's probably no way I can really make you understand, but what I found you guys understood about me in the things you wrote to me is "you seem very honest, down to earth, and real". You guys always asked me to keep it real and stay true to myself, so I hope you understand I am doing just that, and to continue the way I was I'd have to do the opposite.
			You won't see me on whatever the next installment of MTB will end up being or a apart of what DK will become, but when you do see me next there will be no doubt that I'm doing just fine! (In mary j blige voice lol) you guys will recognize this representation of D.Woods from the split second glimpses I was able to show over the past two years, I hope yall will stay down and continue to support. Happy New Year!</br>
			PS...shout out to Carlos from d.woods web, anthony from the Bay, and imelda from Ireland, and all yall I can't name cuz there's too many! Xoxoxoxo</br>
			DWOODS</br>
			missdwoods.com</br>
			Independence Day is coming <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 02:46, 19 January 2009 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
			== Don't forget ] ==
	Thanks alot for your help :P, I am glad that you understand and I really hope everyone else will too. ] (]) 14:55, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
			In the ] for ] you state the article should be protected against recreation until its release date as that is the earliest it could chart. However, this doesn't take count of the ] which any article can meet (and this one does) at any time. Given that this is U2's first proper single for a while it is obviously getting coverage in reliable sources which a quick shows. --] (]) 09:21, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
	== Hello ==
			:Then surely GNG would say that. --] (]) 11:31, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
			::I think it works perfectly well this way. The SNG's are wikiproject driven and give guidelines about what probably meets the criteria for notability, whereas the GNG gives general guidelines which may pick up things which don't meet the specific ones. Seems sensible to me, but I suspect we'll end up agreeing to disagree. By the way, I wasn't trying to ruin your day, at the moment I've got clear blue skies and the sun streaming in through the window warming my back and I'm looking at what's remaining of the snow on the ground. I hope your day is as nice as mine :-) (I really mean that). --] (]) 11:57, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
			:::It must my Canadian ancestry, but a year of sunshine would bore me stupid. Still here in the UK when we can have four seasons in a day I have to be thankful for what I can get! Cheers, --] (]) 12:11, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
			==Lindsay Lohan==
	By the way, I understand if you do not like to give it out, but do you have msn? ] (]) 15:05, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
			can you tell ward to stop removing the movie screenshots....] (]) 16:16, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
	== Creationist edits ==
			== RE: Can I get both of you to cease reverting for a while? ==
	If I violate the 3RR, then you will indeed have reason to block me, but ] isn't policy so even if it does list creationism as a "fringe belief", it is just the opinion of the writer of the page and also only your opinion. The edits to the page are also not pro-creationism in any way (they don't even mention creationism in the article). They simply let it be known that a large minority of creationist scientists does exist.--] ] 22:30, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
			I accept your comments as done in good faith. I don't doubt that you want what is best for the article. But I think if you ''honestly'' compare my edits, reverts, etc. to those of ABH, there is a vast difference between the two. Although I don't think you intended this, I think you message to ABH and me will inspire ABH to ignore any legitimate reverts or warnings I make. That's his style. But again, I respect what you say and I don't mean any of this to be a personal attack on you. I can take the high road and stay away from ABH for a while. But since you have volunteered, I hope you'll do what needs to be done about a problem editor who, although at times well-intentioned, clearly does not understand Misplaced Pages and often makes no effort to learn. But thanks for your message. ] (]) 16:19, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
	== Thank you for the lengthy reply ==
			:Thanks, for your comments as well as your efforts on Misplaced Pages. Cheers! ] (]) 16:33, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
			==lindsay screenshots==
	From the limited reading I've done (much of which has been young-earth creationist publishings) I have been at the conclusion that there are many holes in the big bang theory and old earth theory and that the belief in that the universe was created as is and the belief that it is only several thousand years old are equally valid theories. If I have been wrong and science has recently (or not so recently) proven otherwise, I apologize. And I also recognize that it is Misplaced Pages's duty to report strictly what has been accepted by the scientific community, not what many people simply choose to believe in spite of the facts. I personally do believe in the big bang theory and in evolution, and am not sure right now whether I believe in a creator or not, but I previously considered based on my limited knowledge young-earth creationism to be an equally valid scientific theory. So in conclusion, I've learned something new and won't continue to try to insert people's personal beliefs into a factual article. I think that the article's header, which now contains a link to ] is fine and makes it known sufficiently that there are other beliefs about the earth's age and origin without getting in the way of fact.--] ] 12:31, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
			what about the already existing screenshots of lohan in parent trap and antother world ] (]) 16:51, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
	== Re: Decline ==
			and what about ]'s article......he has a picture of him in the movie Equilibrium.....and anothe one in the movie The Machinist .......and he is a living person......why is it ok for his article and not for lohans.......] (]) 16:51, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
	{{talkback|Gary King}}
	:Fair enough. I will yield that it was not a great decline, and that I probably should have made the block. I simply looked at the contribs, saw the old warning, and saw the user was not active at the time. I didn't look into the socks, and I'm not sure why, so apologies there. The issue appears to be resolved, but I understand it took more effort on your part and I thank you for that and apologize there as well. Warm regards, <small><span style="border:1px solid #FF3333;padding:1px;">] ]</span></small> 00:50, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
			if u dont reply i have no choice but to revert......] (]) 16:59, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
	===Dutch in Carribean===
	Thanks for doing that. I only took a brief trip to Bonaire once and just spoke to everyone in Dutch. I've found contridicting sources on the islands. (] (]) 21:55, 30 April 2008 (UTC))
	== Dutch ==
			why is everyone ignoring me.......are you all having a meeting or something] (]) 16:59, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
	Hi... does what Red4ribe has added to the Legacy section on the Dutch language in Suriname make sense to you? <span style="font-size:80%;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">]<sup> ]</sup></span> 00:24, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
			== My Life Would Suck Without You ==
	I was rounding up to the next decimal it was something like 57.7% so I just put 58%. That could be the mistake. (] (]) 00:45, 1 May 2008 (UTC))
			Hi<br>You'd really have them drag that one through DRV? That seems like a waste, too. Typically, if the reasoning behind a deletion debate changes significantly enough, I'd always think that the history can be more ore less ignored. The question that remains in this case is whether it already has with the release, or if it clearly needs to pass ].<br>Sorry that I'm leaving you alone in that debate, but it doesn't quite seem worth it; if someone wants to work on it in earnest and not just post the typical two liner then he has my blessing, it can always be redirected or brought to AfD again in a week if it doesn't chart.<br>Cheers, ] 21:20, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
	== Scrubs ==
			:Please do not re-add the csd template as it no longer falls into that category. ] (]) 21:22, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
			::{{tb|Jenuk1985}}
			:Thank you for your feedback. Trust me, I do want to go through the proper channels and procedures. However, I just feel this entire process was a bit of a waste of time, since this article IS going to keep re-appearing and several people DID maintain that the single was notable. Now I don't even know where to work on the article, since people keep messing with the logs, talk pages, etc. Perhaps someone will just have to start from scratch (again) in a few days. Thanks again for the note. -] (]) 22:37, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
			:: It's at ] now if you've lost track of it, no need to start from scratch. :) --] 22:49, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
	Given that I was a named party in Eps+Chars2, it'd probably cause more drama than it'd solve for me to do this - I'd bring it up at ] if I was you. <b>]</b> 07:33, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
			== ] ==
	gothca ] (]) 22:01, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
			First, if you haven't already, I'd suggest reading the footnotes to ]. There you will notice part of the purpose of some of those "sub" parts (i.e. how NSONGS is a sub of MUSIC). Part of the purpose of these "auto include" parts is to ensure coverage across the political spectrum and throughout history for like topics. But it also talks about how these people likely do have sources out there that would eventually allow for these people to pass the general N guideline. This helps address the issue with recentism of content. Most media produced in the world in the history of time is not available online, and large chunks that are online are only available via paid access. This means that say a song from 1959 that charted in 1959 could be included under the SNG guidelines (assuming a source for that is located), even though it could fail the GNG (a Top 40 chart does not provide substantial coverage to pass under N). And the song fails the GNG mainly because the content is not easily accessible. In essence the SNG guidelines are developed to help people determine what is notable in the absence of notability via N. They are designed to be more inclusive, not exclusive as each states at the top of each of these notability sub guidelines. As to forbid, it doesn't forbid any other than those that already fail N. Its more the other way around. And V (if proper applied) will kick out anything else as unsourced. Hopefully that helps. ] (]) 22:43, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
	==General stuff==
	Thanks for the more in-depth overview of what's been going on. If you get a chance, take a look at the proposal I've made on the ] talk page. Since we're planning to submit for FA in a couple days, I've proposed a rather large reorganization in hopes of meeting one of the items I think we're currently failing. - ] ] 20:27, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
			==Boldness==
	:] - nomination started. - ] ] 00:25, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
			Bold does have its limits. On the other hand, I confess, I'm surprised to see you back in the guideline discussion. After nearly 48 hours without you contributing to any of the major threads on the talk page, I had assumed you had abandoned the discussion.
	== re Jack Merridew and White Cat ==
			My hope, of course, is that by the time you read this you will have already posted something to the talk page indicating a better sense of how you can be persuaded that this is the best compromise available and that it has consensus, or that you will finally present the much-awaited example of an article that would be wrongly kept under this guideline. ] (]) 17:53, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
	Thanks for your message at my talkpage; yes, I can confirm that it is the latter. While I appreciate that anyone is free to express an opinion, I am making the point that White Cat is also allowed to express an opinion that there is the appearance of a concerted off-Wiki effort to re-instate JM given both the comments indicating outside communication ''and also'' a body of opinion that indicates that WC is considered to be partially responsible for JM's violation of various policies that had previously given rise to some blocks. Whether or not WC is over-reacting, it is not an unfeasible conclusion based on the merits of the comments already made. I am trying to make Ryan P. aware of that. Cheers. ] (]) 07:51, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
			== Don't change my comments ==
	{{talkback|Hello Control}}
			You have neither disappeared nor vanished, and if there was any credible threat to you or anyone else, you wouldn't edit under any name at all. Do not take it upon yourself to change the contents of my statements at any time.&mdash;](]) 20:31, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
	== Tx ==
	Hey Kww: I appreciate your trying to keep heads cool and you are right that it is important to avoid intemperate language, no matter how tempting it may be. I have tried consistently to ] and I am not above . I do reject, however, the accusation that I am engaged in drive-by edit warring in a manner explicitly enjoined by arbcom - that's just petty malice from a querulous source. Some history for this particular unpleasantness is ] the rather personal nature of which may explain why my patience - or is it skin ; - runs thin, best intentions notwithstanding. Anyway, thanks for your input on this. ] (]) 23:13, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
			:Do not refer to renamed users by their old usernames. Doing so is incivil and unnecessary. It adds nothing to constructive discussions. --]<sup>'']''</sup> 20:33, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
	== Comments on my talk page ==
			== Labor Pains ==
	So far I am more amused than annoyed so choose to just see how things play out. Level 4 has been issued (and deleted) but I need to see more than talk page pestering of me to act. --] 03:47, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
			Hi Kww. When you get a chance, would you mind looking at my comments at ]? If you agree perhaps you could make a change. Thanks. ] (]) 22:46, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
	== re: ] ==
	:''Google's search count estimates can be misleading. I usually look for the real end by editing the "start" field in the URL to see where I stop getting results. If you do that with "Trinadad", you wind up with revealing that there are only 913 unique hits ... certainly not a frequent misspelling.] (]) 02:03, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
			== Another one ==
	:* Frequent enough given that most of the one's I was looking at were business related... and it's certainly not counting dead tree use in ads and pamphlets and brochures. My concern was more in making sure the search engine found us.
	:*The porn at the end of your 'tail check' is, of course, of negligible consequence... unless one is really hard up. Interesting technique though. (and I like Tail) Thanks // <b>]</b><font color="green">]</font> 03:39, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
			Sorry to bother again, but could you take a look at ] and see if any action is needed. I've also just created three sections on ] that you might want to take a look at. Thanks. ] (]) 16:24, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
			== WP:RS ==
			I think I was reading an old revision (when I last read the guideline closely) that didn't include the bolded phrase in the lede. However, it seems to have been bolded in the "nutshell" since before I got here. That's really very odd because I can remember a few dozen AfD discussions which would have been easier (maybe) if I had just said "RS==independent" and linked to that part of the guideline. Hmm. ] (]) 21:38, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
			== United World Chart ==
			Ooops! sorry didn't realise, just saw it used on some other articles and thought it was official. ] (]) 22:10, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
			== re: Untouchable(Vanessa Hudgens Album) ==
			{{Talkback|Elizabeth Bathory}}
			== head up ==
			]
			Get your tinfoil hat out. Apparently you are in cahoots with Phil to make a stir about FICT so that it will be "canvassed" on AN/I. ] (]) 13:39, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
			== TLC ==
			Hi. Just to let you know, you restored some content I fixed on the TLC article. After reading ], I'm guessing you wanted to remove the content about the United World Charts which falls under that policy. I went ahead and rolled back your edit because it added some inaccuracies (TLC has only won four Grammys, not five), an incorrectly formatted reference to a fansite of all things, and a wonky version of the awards chart that some IP tinkered with. I did however manually remove the United World Charts content per WP:BADCHARTS. '''] ]''' 01:53, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
			==support for fiction==
			I want to tell you that it is your somewhat unexpected support which at the last minute has caused me to also support the new WP:FICT. A good compromise is something that neither side really likes, but would prefer to the alternative of continued fighting and risk of total loss. What of course I will continue to defend is full and detailed content, whether merged or separate. ''']''' (]) 03:40, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
			==Opinion?==
			What is your opinion on the notability of ]? It was just created on 20 January; quite frankly I was about to nominate it at ] but thought I'd get another opinion beforehand in case I was being a bit too critical. Seems too ''AI'' fangush-y to me. - ] (]) 21:31, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
			:Hmm, I didn't notice it was started in ''2008'' - a year ago - still not sure of its relevance. Thoughts? - ] (]) 21:42, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
			::Well, I went ahead and nominated it - apparently it was nearly deleted before. Chime in if you feel like it, we'll see how this one goes, either way: ]. Later - ] (]) 23:43, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
			== Brexx ==
			Hi, can you please give me the low down on the edit behavior of Brexx, so I can spot his socks. Just found out that "Anywhere But Home" was a sock. — ]] 14:07, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
			== ] ==
			I have made some changes to American Idol Hot 100 singles and since you voted Delete in the ], I would appreciate you looking at the article and telling me what you think. ] (]) 19:57, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
			== Could it be? ==
			I think so: ]
			== Alis.Payan: contributions from the range ==
			Hello Kww. At ANI you mentioned going through the last 100,000 edits to find anon contributions by this editor, so you may not have seen the CIDR gadget yet. The option is called: ''Allow /16 and /24 – /32 CIDR ranges on Special:Contributions forms''.
			When I checked ] I found hundreds of edits to show-business articles, so most likely they are all Alis.Payan. There were some scientific-looking edits from 2007 and earlier, but very few.
			The shows that the last previous block was only a softblock,
			but I agree with you that a 6-month hardblock is worth doing if checkuser approves it. ] (]) 14:47, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
			:The AnonEdits tool does sound useful; how can I get it? ] (]) 14:55, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
			====And...====
			The creator of the Katelyn Wyler article was ], no other contribs, blocked per ] (note the "12" in the username). Cheers, ] 19:23, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
			== Neuro emotional technique ==
			Hi I am the original poster, and was wondering what you didn't like about my research? I spent a lot of time and effort into it, only to find it keeps getting deleted. I thought encyclopedia articles were supposed to be explanatory as opposed to a paragraph or two. If you are familiar wit Neuro Emotional Technique and have better background knowledge of it, I would love to talk with you and perhaps we can come up with a better post. Please contact me if you would like to do so, as I think it might make for a post that we would both be happy with.
			KBenSD ] (]) 17:07, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
			== Neuro emotional technique ==
			Thank you for your response, you have some valid points. I will spend some more time with the article and see what edits would work for the benefit of the article as a whole - not just for you and me :)
			KBenSD] (]) 19:33, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
			== an elaboration on that "good article" bit ==
			]
			I get the feeling like my proposed change isn't much different from the previous wording that wasn't acceptable to you and Gavin (I was gone for that debate and I ] to dig through the archives). Can you drop by and take a look at it. GG seems to be pushing back against the GA thing and it is a battle I'm not interested in fighting if we don't actually ''mean'' GA status, but rather "this article could never possibly be improved from a permastub without huge masses of PLOT info", then we should probably yield a bit. Let me know if I'm giving away the cow w/ the milk. ] (]) 00:06, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
			==Barnstar==
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			|style="font-size: x-large; padding: 0; vertical-align: middle; height: 1.1em;" | '''The Barnstar of Peace'''
			|-
			|style="vertical-align: middle; border-top: 1px solid gray;" | ''The Barnstar of Peace is awarded to users who have helped to peacefully resolve conflicts on Misplaced Pages.''
			This barnstar is awarded to Kww, for his willingness to comprimise and negotiate, and his incredible help in building a better wikipedia. ] (]) 17:47, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
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			Thank you for closing the ] AfD, ] (]) 17:47, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
			== Another Brexx sock?? ==
			I think we should keep an eye on {{User|Martzi Xmas}}. Edits look suspicious. Thanks. ] (]) 18:02, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
			== ] ==
			With respects inre this edit , The cast listing at IMDB for this completed film lists Allison Liddi as director. It also shows she is also know as Allison Liddi-Brown. While certainly IMDB has credibility problems in many areas, consensus at ] accepts their cast listings as reliable once a film has been completed. The listings in the provided ] source also confirms Allison Liddi-Brown as director, so we have confirmation and further verification. Further, the cast listing at IMDB and at the New York Times both ]erify the information. Since neither is a primary source and the information is not controversial or inflamatory, with respects I will be returning it and show it as attributed to the Times. Good catch. ''']''' '']'' 04:14, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
			== ] ==
			I'm curious as to your standard of evidence. The image is clearly a screenshot from a Spongebob Squarepants, and "Mr Krabs" is the name of a character in Spongebob Squarepants. What do I need to say to persuade you that the image is speediable as a copyright violation?&mdash;](]) 12:48, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
			:I'm not familiar with children's cartoons, and not having seen your edit summary there was no way for me to connect the image with ]. Deleted now. ] (]) 13:42, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
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			]This talk page is becoming '''very long'''. Please consider ]. ] (]) 13:43, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
			]Or just kill it with fire. ] (]) 14:26, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
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Who needs an archive when you can just look here?Kww (talk) 13:01, 10 May 2008 (UTC) Or here?

koka

mediatraffic. ok sory but i think its's simply intresting. but if u don't wont whot can i do :(. sory. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kokuna (talk • contribs) 12:30, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

Notability and Licensing and Independence and Reliability

I think we have to accept that any reliable guide to Pokemon will have to be licensed. I think it is evidence of notability in itself that so many different publishers license the intellectual property of Nintendo to write pokemon guides and they are published and apparently sell well. Any detailed article about pokemon would have a legal obligation to be licensed or else it would be in violation of copyright law, which I think would make it unreliable. So I do not think it's legitimate to require books about fictional characters to not be licensed in order to be considered independent 3rd party sources. It is the legal obligation of anyone writing about a copyrighted fictional character to get licensing unless they're writing criticism or parody which would not require it. Felisse (talk) 15:28, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

• Thanks for your reply, that was very nice. I think I did not fully convey what I meant. I think it's completely possible for a topic to be notable without having parody or critique written about it specifically. This is especially the case for items that are primarily directed at children, who are less likely to be interested in creating criticism. So that if fifteen different authors write about something, even if they are (as adults) not interested in it themselves (which would lead to criticism or parody) but mainly in the money they can make off kids who are interested in the documented minutia of the subject matter (what does it eat, what are its powers, etc), that still estabilishes notability of the subject matter and is independent enough to be consulted for an article even if it is the only source. Since the only reason it is being licensed is that it would be illegal not to, then I do not think the licensing should discount it. Felisse (talk) 15:49, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
  • WP:N says: " "Independent of the subject" excludes works produced by those affiliated with the subject including (but not limited to): self-publicity, advertising, self-published material by the subject, autobiographies, press releases, etc. " and note 5 says: "Works produced by the subject, or those with a strong connection to them, are unlikely to be strong evidence of interest by the world at large. See also: Misplaced Pages:Conflict of interest for handling of such situations." This shows that the purpose of independence of sources is to be strong evidence of interest by the world at large. And it is true that a single licensed guide would be hardly any evidence of interest by the world - but you note that "licensed" was not one of the affiliations listed by name, and I believe this is because licensing needs to be taken on a case by case basis as to whether it constitutes affiliation. I therefore think my interpretation is legitimate under the current wording of WP:N.

Thanks

Thanks for informing me of that! I had never seen that page before.Jdot01 (talk) 18:12, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

hang on

you changed my {{hangon}} and sayed it was improper well how to i stop it from being deleted now what do i need to type --gdaly7 (talk) 14:30, 30 October 2008 (UTC)--gdaly7 (talk) 14:30, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

Thank You So Much!

A thousand thanks for you!! And I wouldn't get angry if you'd take it off..Thank you so much. You don't know how much this means to me. I can't believe it! Uhmm...what did that admins said?Kikkokalabud (talk) 01:15, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

Gypsy woman

http://en.wikipedia.org/Image:Gypsywomanrare.jpg take a look at this picture! I doubt it's real coz it was from a blog. and when i clicked the blog, it was invalid. could you check it out? Kikkokalabud (talk)

Need your help

Someone just made a single page for Scream_(Zac_Efron_song). And they made a template for him. They even put in that he will have an album soon. Could you help me nominate both for deletion? Kikkokalabud (talk) 22:32, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

Hey the template isn't a bad idea! Why that everybody hates me on Misplaced Pages?

Pedrovip (talk) 20:14, 22 October 2008 (UTC)Pedrovip

Come Back To Me

I just made a new page for Come Back To Me on my sandbox. What do you think? http://en.wikipedia.org/User:Kikkokalabud/Sandbox/Come_Back_To_Me_(Vanessa_Hudgens_song) Kikkokalabud (talk) 07:38, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

Information

I've added new information! Kikkokalabud (talk) 03:17, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

Finish!

I've finished it! So, what's the nexy step?!Kikkokalabud (talk) 00:30, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

OKIE DOKIE!

Hey, I just half-did it. I'm just searching for a lot of informations! Kikkokalabud (talk) 06:13, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

Come Back To Me

Someone just made an article of that page. Unfortunately, Say Ok didn't. I just got a message on my talk page from a Bot thing and it was like "thanks for uploading those pictures" i thought there was a talk to delete that page? Kikkokalabud (talk) 10:19, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

I was wondering...I found a ton of information about Come Back To Me, Say OK and Sneakernight. I wanted to put it on the album page but it would ruin the page. So I wanted to ask you if you could tell me how to make a discussion if Hudgens' singles would have their own pages since I got tons of information.Kikkokalabud (talk) 03:53, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

Re: Singles infoboxes

I'm not sure if Misplaced Pages was a hard guideline on this, but I'd personally go for this version as a full single infobox sort of clutters the article. Hope that was helpful. Funk Junkie (talk) 22:30, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

Agreed. :-) Funk Junkie (talk) 22:38, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

I've just come across another issue: adding single covers to album articles isn't non-fair use per Misplaced Pages:Non-free content? Funk Junkie (talk) 00:50, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

I thought so too, but some time ago I had single covers I added to Angie Stone and India.Arie album articles deleted, and these singles didn't have their own articles, so it made me think it all over. Funk Junkie (talk) 00:57, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

Good point, I think I'll use this method from now on whenever I come across cases like those. Funk Junkie (talk) 01:26, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

Mug shots

I started a thread here: Misplaced Pages:Biographies_of_living_persons/Noticeboard#Mug_shots. Would you mind giving input? Thankyou. The Bookkeeper (of the Occult) 03:50, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

You Me At Six

This is the first time i have edited the article, i deleted the template by mistake, but i must protest the deletion, because they are one of the biggest bands on the Uk scene, and as you can see have been nominated for awards, and this article can be improved drastically within minutes, and it is my intention to do so when i next get a chance today. DavidJJJ (talk) 15:37, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Requests for checkuser/Case/Extensiontf

The case page looks alright to me. It seems that some of the CheckUsers are a bit busy at the moment. I'm sure if you ping a CU on IRC, they'll be able to handle your request ASAP. Nishkid64 _{(Make articles, not wikidrama)} 17:13, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Moving

I did warn them the night beforehand; and if you checked, you will find her name has the accent in it.--Andrzejestrować ZP Pbjornovich (talk) (contributions) (email) 13:40, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

re "...intrusion."

No problem - in fact it is probably a good thing to have the occasional sysop action queried so that I can ensure that my criteria is valid. It is sometimes apparent that when an admin does not care for their actions to be subject to criticism (in the proper sense) otherwise good actions get picked to pieces for not being "perfect". So, if you spot anything else don't hesitate to bring it to my attention. Cheers. LessHeard vanU (talk) 22:55, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Undefeated (album)

Your case is a little tl;dr, which may be why some people think it's not compelling. I do agree with you though, it's a horribly b0rked article. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • 22:50, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

• Sorry. tl;dr means "too long; didn't read". Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • 22:53, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

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Lists and the GNG

Based on your comments, I added Misplaced Pages:Notability/RFC:compromise#Proposal_A.4:_Lists_may_be_exempted_from_the_GNG, a proposal to "exempt" list-form articles from the GNG. Personally, I think they may actually be covered, but I would appreciate your comments, and it would be useful to see where consensus lies on this issue. Hiding T 16:28, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Aaliyah/Babygirl

Aaliyah was so called Babygirl!A lot of people called her that that was one of her nicknames.Have you realised that in most of every song Timbaland did with her with his rap he says Babygirl?It's true. Marexl (talk) 21:09, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

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reply

There's a lot of junk in the history, and everything's in the archives. Keilana| 20:07, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Miley Cyrus

Turns out one of my friends somehow got my password and did that, not me. Sorry about that, the password has now been changed. Geoking66_talk 03:12, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

Protection

I completely agree: this is obviously an organized campaign to start a rumor. Block and protect as needed, and watch for sneaky attempts in other places. Thanks, Antandrus (talk) 03:25, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

Done: must have been within seconds of your post on my page. Any idea where they are coordinating this? Antandrus (talk) 03:41, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

Miley Cyrus

Instead of deleting everyone's question about it and threatening a full pp, why don't you just post the truth on the talk page? I would think that would be easier, yeah? Cheers, Mazeau (talk) 03:41, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

WTB

Let's throw another sentence in there, then, which gets to the point that the character's fictional experiences are a kind of example introduction to the philosophical (and pseudoscientific) worldview which the filmmakers are advancing. Naturezak (talk) 02:56, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

"Her fictional experiences are offered by the filmmakers as an introduction to a philosophical worldview that combines novel, and in some cases scientifically unsupported, ideas about quantum physics and consciousness." Naturezak (talk) 03:05, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

Good for me! Naturezak (talk) 03:29, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

Suspected sock puppets.

• HHNRecordsPR was banned from posting any more infomation on this site. Since that was everything I wanted to say, I placed my signature at the end of the comment. Also, since you are looking into the posting history, you can clearly see I placed my signature there after they were banned. Question, If I was HHNRecords, Why whould I disguise my identity if I thought I was posting the comment under the GhostDog21 user name? I know the person HHNRecordsPR, and just like me, they are not with the label either. I'm not sure why they picked that name, dumb idea. That person told me the reason they were banned was due to them having the label name in thier user name, and it seemed like they worked for the label, which is B.S. I noticed on the history of G-Unit Records and Shady Records that there are user names with the label in them, Heck, there is even an administrator with G-unit in their user name, and they make contributions to the label articles. • GhostDog21 (talk) 12:07:19, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

Article needing attention

I posted about an article in dire need of attention at WPP:MUSIC. Dunno if you'd be interested in working on it but I know you as a strong editor of music-related articles. I just can't find the energy or time myself. —Hello, Control 14:00, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

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Kww please look at the talk page on Aaliyah.I left something important. Marexl (talk) 23:48, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

Lohan

I stand corrected. Having never violated BLP, I never needed to know... :P Dev920, who misses Jeffpw. 12:46, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

Notability RfC

B.6 seems like it could be a viable compromise position with some modification, so I have created a set of notes for improvement/revision (User:Vassyana/RFC notes). I'm attempting to address as many points as possible while maintaining a coherent approach and principle. I believe that I address your concerns in the notes, so I would appreciate your feedback on the notes sandbox talk page to ensure I'm on the ball. Thanks! Vassyana (talk) 15:42, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

False vandalism charges

Hi. Please note the IP removed many chart positions and even a source on V (Vanessa Hudgens album). It was the same thing on Vanessa Hudgens discography. As you can see, these edits *are* vandalisms. Therefore, my warnings against this editor are totally justified. For the sales in the U.S., I don't know if this info is true or false, but this change came from a vandal, and I've supposed it was false. As I see you have reverted my changes, I will request arbitration by a third person. Europe22 (talk) 20:45, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but frankly, I have a doubt on your good faith, as, for example, you let the IP do this change, that was clearly a vandalism (= ref removed and false chart positions)... I've asked an administrator, Garion96, his opinion. Europe22 (talk) 21:47, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

The IP has added the entry positions, not the peak positions. For example, the SNEP, that compiles French singles, albums and digital charts, says "Come Back to Me" was #12 on January 2007. See this link. You can find the same information on aCharts.com (see: "Peak positions" column) and on Lescharts.com, with the same chart trajectory. However, the IP user added #15 as peak position. See : this edit. As it was probably a mistake of the IP (he has mixed up the two colums "Entry positions" and "Peak positions"), I think it was not a vandalism of his part, but changes made with good faith. And it's probably the same thing in your case. Sorry. (Nevertheless these chart positions must be corrected). Sincerely. PS: Sorry for my bad English, and if you want, I will correct the chart positions and add references! Europe22 (talk) 22:41, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

For this. henrik•talk 14:30, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Yeah. I was too quick on the block button there. A second later I came to the same conclusion as you, it wasn't really malicious edits. Too often we just communicate in canned templates, without trying to talk to new editors. PS. you're doing a great job of hand-holding now. henrik•talk 15:27, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Fantasy userpages

Regarding the userpages, if the user is making constructive edits in the encyclopedia, then I'm willing to let them have a little latitude with their user pages. The ones I get on are the ones where their only edits are to their userpage. I saw a user today who was using his user talk page as a blog, and that's explicitly covered under WP:NOT. There's another one I watch who tends to use his userpage for some kind of classroom Survivor standings page; I think one of those pages was sent to MfD. Again, it was once it got to be that he wasn't editing the encyclopedia but was here just for the tracker thing. —C.Fred (talk) 02:25, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

Rationale for warning

Hey, thanks for pointing it out. I wasn't aware that the user had already been listed at WP:AIV, and had added my warning as a last one before a block was necessary. The warning your provided stated further edits may result in a block, while the one I provided, was a last resort with will block. Additionally, it looks like the user has stopped editing so a block is not necessary. However, if any additional edits the user has are not constructive, then he would qualify for being blocked. If you see that the user does so, I'd say post it again or WP:AIV or let me know and I'll block him. Let me know if you need further clarification and happy editing! --Nehrams2020 (talk) 03:28, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

When I Grow Up

Please stop deleting all the charts on the When I Grow Up page. They're all accurate and they are of importance. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Yeahboyyy (talk • contribs) 18:54, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Ok but how do you get a peak of #2 for Sweden? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Yeahboyyy (talk • contribs) 20:05, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

alright i understand but how come you won't let the UWC be on the discography page or any of the others? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Yeahboyyy (talk • contribs) 16:15, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

PCD

Thanks for the heads up! I fixed it, with a Shout Out to you!! :) Ctjf83Talk 21:51, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Oh please

Number 1, frankly, it doesn't concern you, so I would appreciate it if you would mind your own business. #2, I moved MY comment, not his. I never touched his. #3, putting comments like that happens all the time (it happened on the Main Page talk for example). You can back up whoever you want to, but please do not stick your nose in other people's business unless you are specifically asked. Thank you. Anakinjmt (talk) 12:06, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

"just a hair"

Don't even worry about it, no offense taken, I understood. - eo (talk) 19:59, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

Regardless, what he is doing now is unacceptable. He just reverted "When I Grow Up" again and I gave him a final. - eo (talk) 20:14, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

2008-present

She got to present, which is 2008. If she got to 2009 or so, it'd be altered, the same way a larger number of episodes will be added as having her participation, as well as other movies and actualizations. G.-M. Cupertino (talk) 17:11, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

Why not?... There isn't an automatic database backing things up for anything else either, that's absurd!... What's the difference?... Like I said, as for the rest, if any other alteration is verified it shall be done. In case you don't know, Misplaced Pages is a continuous work!... G.-M. Cupertino (talk) 17:18, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

Every article in question!... If you're that lazy or undevoted!... I don't see people on IMDb complainting, they'd have gone on strike by now!... G.-M. Cupertino (talk) 17:22, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

First, don't ever tell me to stop. It's my trouble, not yours!... I don't complaint!... And why do you alter it yourself anyway?... Army brat!... G.-M. Cupertino (talk) 17:29, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

RE Foreign Languages Skills

Please see WP:RSUE. Non-English references not preferred.--Startstop123 (talk) 14:24, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

Webkinzman

Thanks. I was about to make an ANI report but I'll see what happens with your request. Ward3001 (talk) 20:13, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

I'm working on an ANI report. You might want to comment after I post it. I'll let you know when I finish. Thanks. Ward3001 (talk) 18:28, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

Correction: I'm starting at AIV just to see. That would be faster. If that doesn't work I'll move it over to ANI. In the meantime, if you wish, you might give him another level 4 just so there'll be a fresher warning for the AIV folks. Thank. Ward3001 (talk) 18:31, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

You've probably already seen, but he got a three-day block and stern warning. Thank goodness we didn't have to do ANI. Thanks for your help. Ward3001 (talk) 19:30, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

RE: Lil Wayne talk page

Ehh, not sure. There seems to be some occasional legitimate discussion taking place, and the IPs have to edit somewhere, right? As long as there are people reverting the vandalism, we should be fine. GlassCobra 09:14, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

Miss Independent (album) AfD

I have amended your AfD nomination at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Miss Independent (album) by adding a second, related article. American Side is the alleged first single off the album. I think it makes the most sense to hit both articles with one AfD. Nobody else has commented, so I don't think it alters the process. Let me know if you have any problems with this. —C.Fred (talk) 14:48, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

I see Kurt Shaped Box gave User:MSoldi an indefinite block tonight. I've noted that on the AfD; the article may be blatant enough information that it's speedy deletable. —C.Fred (talk) 00:33, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Pedrovip

I've chimed in with a comment at User talk:Pedrovip, so it appears he's accepted that user talk pages are where incoming comments from other editors should be added. —C.Fred (talk) 14:59, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

About Miss Independent edit

Well, I just add the correct name of the song "I'm Back"...because the song just has leaked on internet. Only it. Voices4ever (talk) 15:02, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

United World Chart

I don't see how it's an unreliable chart. Let me put this in capital letters LOOK HOW MUCH OTHER UNRELIABLE CHARTS ARE ON SONG ARTICLES WHICH YOU GUYS DON'T TAKE OFF OTHER THAN THE UNITED WORLD CHART (not shouting) which is what you think is unreliable. And I don't see how it's vandalism either, and why must you intervene in my conversation with Yeahhboy. People should know how well a song does across the globe or how big of a worldwide hit it is. But I can never get through you guys, you guys just don't understand and blah, blah, blah, whatever about the dumb rules. Hometown Kid (talk) 05:44, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

Image policy

I left you a reply on my talk page. Please help out with the image problems for Aaliyah so you can help to restore the rest of my good faith edit, as soon as you can! :) Lliaa (talk) 04:52, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

re: Webkinzman

Hi, thanks for the update. Sorry I didn't jump on it sooner. - eo (talk) 14:30, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Hot 100

What parade I put????--Vitor Mazuco (talk) 16:27, 29 September 2008 (UTC) I know hot 100 brasil does't put,but what parade I put in brazil???--Vitor Mazuco (talk) 16:35, 29 September 2008 (UTC) Chek this link http://www.jovempanfm.com.br/paradas/50mais2007.php is the parada brasil in radio jovem pan--Vitor Mazuco (talk) 16:48, 29 September 2008 (UTC) Jovem pan is an important radio in Brasil about hit's!!!--Vitor Mazuco (talk) 18:03, 30 September 2008 (UTC) This radio is radio airplay!!--Vitor Mazuco (talk) 20:10, 30 September 2008 (UTC) Ok what parade I will put????--Vitor Mazuco (talk) 21:04, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Block

You've been blocked 24 hours and I've removed your rollback rights, you can ask for them back later, for using rollback in an edit war, on Breakout (album). Rollback should only be used to rv vandalism and similar edits. Having it means you can be trusted with it and using it in an edit war is abuse of it on both counts. — Rlevse • Talk • 00:31, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

RE: ANI, AIV, acronyms unite

Hey there! I'm glad we have a chance to talk, because I think you misunderstand the issue. It's not that everyone has a desire to discuss things (though I certainly prefer that route), but rather, at that time, I and another administrator did not see reasonable grounds to block Jdxboom. Some administrators probably would've issued a block, but only the trigger-happy ones. This way, we got to see if he was truly going to make an issue of this; then he was blocked. So you see, it's not an issue of too much discussion, but rather just the time which you reported him at.
P.S. Since you're blocked, it's fine if you reply here. Cheers, Master of Puppets _{Call me MoP! :)} 00:37, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Ah, I didn't understand the nature of it I guess; I glanced at the contributions list and didn't see any reason for concern. My apologies, this is truly a one-in-a-million mistake. Cheers, Master of Puppets _{Call me MoP! :)} 01:31, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Unblock request

Your request to be unblocked has been granted for the following reason(s): my error, I missed the copyvio part, I have restored rollback, my apologies Request handled by: — Rlevse • Talk • 00:58, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

— Rlevse • Talk • 00:58, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Lindsay Lohan

I'm still skeptical about things being sourced from MySpace on this article, but that wasn't, and isn't, the fundamental issue. The issue is, as they have it, there is no source given for the statements about Lohan calling Palin homophobic and anti-environmentalist. That is a rather large WP:BLP issue. There are sources given at a later, relatively innocuous statement that Lohan criticized media coverage and urged voting for Obama. That isn't much of a WP:BLP issue. It goes much further than MySpace good or MySpace bad. It's a liability as it is in the link above. Wildhartlivie (talk) 07:59, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Britney Spears

Before posting a reply, just look what i said for that picture edit. I specifically said that it is temporary and should be immediately removed once a brand new picture of Britney is uploaded which is a recent one and a press cutting, not a fan-art. --"Legolas" (talk) 12:08, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, I did not know that this was a forum: http://jbbs.livedoor.jp/bbs/read.cgi/music/3914/1044805378/582 --Albes29 (talk) 19:07, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

semi-Circus

I was just thinking the same thing, actually. - eo (talk) 17:26, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

re:Ilikestella

I already gave a final this morning, plus there were several other warnings in between yours and mine. I blocked - enough is enough, really. - eo (talk) 18:45, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

WP:ANI

Thanks for alerting me about this. I knew that revealing personally identifiable information is bad, especially on a place like Misplaced Pages, so I used the template in question. When I saw how it was worded, I wanted to try and clear it up as best as I could. Guess it didn't make too much sense, but thanks for helping. I greatly appreciate it. :) --(GameShowKid)--(talk)--(evidence)-- 04:06, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

User:Soapfan06

I'm having trouble with Soapfan06 who never uses edit summaries when removing content from Britney Spears. Be on the look out. Thanks. The Bookkeeper (of the Occult) 06:00, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

RfA nom

HiDrNick would like to nominate you to become an administrator. Please visit Misplaced Pages:Requests for adminship to see what this process entails, and then contact HiDrNick to accept or decline the nomination. A page has been created for your nomination at Misplaced Pages:Requests for adminship/Kww . If you accept the nomination, you must state and sign your acceptance. You may also choose to make a statement and/or answer the optional questions to supplement the information your nominator has given. Once you are satisfied with the page, you may post your nomination for discussion, or request that your nominator do so.

Go get going already. Cheers, HiDrNick! 04:23, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

Hi Kevin, so as background I spent a lot of the first five-six months of 2007 "in the trenches" at AFD and I often came away not very happy about the project. I was never involved in many fiction AFDs, that I can recall. The thing about Bulbasaur is that it always seemed impossible to even find this sort of article unless you were looking for the information in it. But for reasons that I don't comprehend, these articles instill not just passion but rage. And it spilled over into this horrid war. The highly-partisan notability wars left a very bitter taste in my mouth. TTN could do no wrong. LGRdC could do no right. All the socking made me ill. I remember Jack Merridew was a nice guy to me, even helped me fix up my user page, but when it was revealed he was a sockpuppet, virtually none of the editors who had fought on Jack's side apologized to the editor who exposed the sockpuppetry. The uninvolved admin who brought it to the noticeboards was also savaged without apology, as I recall. (I seem to remember you were one of the fair-minded ones in this, but the episode illustrated to me how ridiculous the partisanship had gotten.) When I saw your name at RFA I remembered the months of bitterness. I looked through your Misplaced Pages and Misplaced Pages Talk edits for the last couple months, and saw that a huge number of them were still around these issues. Mostly the RFC and TTN, true. I'll be honest, I didn't consider that the RFC is very much disengaged from the day-to-day trenches, and I think it's a fair point. But the first diff of yours I clicked on was one where Phil Sandifer said he felt like his proposal was getting a toxic reception and your one line response was that the only toxicity was coming from Phil. It looked like more of that horns-locked, bitter and unproductive partisanship to me. --JayHenry (talk) 16:20, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

Need help on Natalee nomination

I left the below on AuburnPilot's talk page, however he emailed me from his blackberry that his internet is down. Can you manage it? The vacancy will occur sometime between now and midnight Greenwich (I think 9 pm your time). Usually, Raul puts it in later in the day, within a couple of hours of the witching hour. I'm using a computer in a public library in England, and odds are I won't be on when it happens. If worst comes to worst, there's another vacancy when the Oct 9 article clears. Anyway, here is what I wrote him:

• I suggest that we nominate as soon as Raul schedules October 3. For the quickest word, I suggest watching here. Then replace noitulovE with the code you will find in my sandbox (there is a link at the bottom of my user page). Nominate on behalf of Kww or yourself and claim 5 points. I am in Europe right now with limited internet access or I would do it myself. If we don't, I think the Grand Prix article will be nominated and we will have to replace the fairly popular U.S.S. New Jersey, which could lead to spite opposes.--Wehwalt (talk) 11:35, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

Brandy Norwood

I did not add a picture to her page. I only moved them around, so you are sending messages to the wrong person. As far as my talk page, you don't have any proof of any of your accusations, so stay off my page. Wjmummert (KA-BOOOOM!!!!) 01:01, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

RFA

Sorry I got confused, it was the other way round, I've changed my position to support. Sorry for the inconvenience. Regards Ijanderson (talk) 20:10, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

• Hi Kww, I've responded on my talk page. Best wishes. Acalamari 21:12, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

re:Ilikestella

Understood, but to me this is someone who clearly has no regard for any policies whatsoever and ignores any communication left on his talk page. Note he was blocked for 48 hours because of the Brazil information he kept adding to music articles, then once his block expired he went right to a discography page and added Brazil. Aside from the bunch of "got milk?" images he uploaded, his Talk Page is filled with prior image copyright problem templates. I certainly don't expect editors to have every Misplaced Pages policy memorized, but this editor in particular has been around for months and obviously doesn't care to at least read the page(s) about image use. - eo (talk) 11:40, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

Don't even worry about it - RfAs are tough and rather flawed in my opinion, but there ya go. We just have different approaches to how we would have handled this editor and that's fine. I just feel that it is extremely unfair when a specific editor constantly requires other people to clean up after them, especially if s/he makes no effort to learn how to do it correctly... whether they read guidelines or just reach out to someone to ask for help.

Anyhoo, if your RfA doesn't pass just take in all the comments, process it and go for it again in a few months. - eo (talk) 12:18, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

TTN

You should be aware that the TTN situation is being discussed at WP:Requests for Arbitration#Request for_clarification: Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration.2FEpisodes_and_characters_2. So far, there is no consensus that TTN's recent behaviour is disruptive.—Kww(talk) 21:39, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

Got archived a few minutes ago. Now here.—Kww(talk) 02:28, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for the notice(s). They were informative. - jc37 09:17, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

Zachri29 (talk · contribs)

Blocked for a week. I just don't see why people continue to do that... J Milburn (talk) 15:34, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

ScienceApologist

To be honest, I haven't interacted significantly with SA for months. I get the impression his civility issues have improved a fair bit, but I honestly don't feel able to judge either. I'm sure, if there's problems, that there's plenty of people to bring them up. Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 03:37, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

Your RfA

You did the right thing in stating your position on sourcing. The fact that people are opposing you on this diff makes me not want to bother editing here any more, and it's certainly why I don't interact with most Wikipedians. You've got my support vote, whenever you want to try again. -- Logical Premise 20:55, 6 October 2008 (UTC) (Death to unreferenced stuffs!)

Hello, Kww. You have new messages at Hello Control's talk page.
You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

Your message

Blocked indef. As for the block, I'm pretty sure it's in effect. I'm not sure why the rangeblock finder seems to work for every block except that range. Spellcast (talk) 09:11, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

Thank you!

I'm new to this AfD thing...thank you for your assistance! FinFangFoom (talk) 17:54, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

Pedrovip's images

I'm inclined to agree about the images, especially the Headstrong one. The only way I can see him claiming copyright is if he did the mashup, but even then, there are underlying rights held by the label, so the image isn't usable. I think you're on the right track, giving him a few more days to see how (if) he responds. I don't remember MSoldi's edit history off the top of my head, but I certainly agree that this isn't new behaviour. —C.Fred (talk) 01:43, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

My images was only to try. I never uploaded a image. Wait, there is more. My image "Cisco Adler.jpg" is not copyrighted.

Pedrovip (talk) 16:16, 8 October 2008 (UTC)Pedrovip

I just took an image out of the Sneakernight infobox because of the copyright issue. The other two userboxes, at the time I looked, had CC images. —C.Fred (talk) 16:37, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

If you think they're obvious copyvios, tag them for speedy deletion (I9, blatant infringement, or I3, wrong license tag). If they're borderline, send them to IfD—though it wouldn't surprise me if half of them get speedied. —C.Fred (talk) 02:46, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

A thought

Words have value in context. Please allow me to remind you of the number of supporters your RfA thread did attract. It would be easy to over-value those critical or neutral observations in this context. Your evaluation of constructive criticism needs to remain balanced. You shouldn't under-value the judgment of those who were favorably impressed. --Tenmei

Responding to your subtle and familiar choice of words in the best of all possible worlds: See this link to Bernstein's 70th birthday frolic -- Christa Ludwig sings "I am so easily assimilated." In my view, the best part of this YouTube excerpt is the enthusiastic delight of Bernstein himself at the end of the clip; and perhaps this becomes a good context in which to remind you that Candide was not at all well-received when the operetta first appeared on Broadway in 1956. --Tenmei (talk) 14:36, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

Holloway edit

Sorry about the result of the RFA and thanks for the gracious message.

Would you look at this diff and see if it makes sense? Dutch is Greek to me, and as I recall from the FAC (I think), this was your source.--Wehwalt (talk) 07:53, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

Your RFA

Best wishes for your RFA...( altough the result this time doesnt seem good ) -- Tinu Cherian - 09:03, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

RfA comment

Hello! As per your message on my Talk Page: "I'm going to try to interpret this resounding defeat as a statement that I should choose my words more carefully in the future, and remember that every statement I make gets recorded forever, just waiting to get carefully transcribed onto my next RFA." No, you did not fail -- the system failed you. And the people who picked apart isolated verbiage to create a phony history of your work have done a huge disservice to this project. There's nothing wrong with you -- keep up the great work. Ecoleetage (talk) 10:13, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

Ecoleetage (talk) has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling at someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Cheers, and Happy editing!
Smile at others by adding {{subst:Smile}} to their talk page with a friendly message.

Your RfA

On this occasion, your request for adminship was not successful. I hope that you will continue your useful contributions to Misplaced Pages and may consider standing again in future. Remember, a majority of editors commenting did support your candidature. Warofdreams talk 11:41, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

• Pity. I suggest that, over the next few months, you provide evidence of your ability to hold a well argued viewpoint while still being able to act impartially according to consensus. With such examples the next run at adminship should be considerably easier. Thanks for the thanks. LessHeard vanU (talk) 12:34, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

All is for the best, in this, the best of all possible worlds

I'm sorry it worked out that way. It is true though, that you will be more knowledgeable and experienced in 6 months time. It will also give you time to clarify how you feel about things. In any consensus based discussion, make sure all you write is firmly based in the polices and guidelines. Take time to help you users. A firebrand or zealot, however well-intentioned, is more likely to abuse the tools than someone who is patient with newbie mistakes, who looks to improve rather than delete, looks to buid/expand rather than fault find. Anyone who made it all the way through Luceifer's Hammer, and who quotes Voltaire probably has the native intelligence to learn the nuances of the mop-and-bucket cum ratchet set. Cheers, Dlohcierekim 13:36, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

Check the quote on my user page. Definitely not the best of all possible worlds, but... the possibilities... Shenme (talk) 17:32, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

This is why I have no ambition to be an admin, or to take responsibility on WP for anything more than my own work. The points that were brought up against you struck me as unjust and downright silly in many cases.--Wehwalt (talk) 20:23, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

You deserve it

		The Original Barnstar
		For tireless work which is obviously not appreciated enough. Wehwalt (talk) 20:25, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

Re: double redirect elimination

Oh, all right, that makes absolute sense. I think I came to the page through a link, so I experienced the double redirect firsthand. Next time I'll fix all incoming links to the correct capitalization, that's something I should have done anyway. If there's no incoming links, the only thing left is that the search box ATM directs you to If I Were A Boy if you enter "if i were a boy", so a reader would still drop out at the double redirect.
I kinda wonder, that's just another case where multi-redirects would be very useful if they were supported by the software. I can't imagine that implementing them in MediaWiki is that hard, or taxing …
Amalthea 11:24, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

Rihanna

Hi
Heh, yes, I know, I should have first tagged the image as a copyright violation, and then removed it from the article. It took me a little longer then with the previous image to find the copyright holder. :)
Cheers, Amalthea 15:34, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

Right. I followed this edit to the article yesterday and assumed that we didn't have one, since they replaced a placeholder image. Cheers, Amalthea 16:45, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

Don't mention it

Hah! Just sorry I didn't jump in when it was... you know... open. Better luck next time, as you clearly should have made it this time. Hiberniantears (talk) 15:57, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

Identified (Vanessa Hudgens song)

Someone just made a page of Identified (Vanessa Hudgens song) and I doubt it was real since it has no sources at all. Do you think it would be nominated for deletion?Kikkokalabud (talk) 10:19, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

ControlFreak

Yep, I saw the warning you gave him. Since I had his talk page on my watchlist that's what made me saw he uploaded again images. I probably would have indef blocked him if you didn't beat me to it with that final warning. I guess this will be his final chance. Garion96 (talk) 01:36, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

Will keep on eye on that editor. Garion96 (talk) 11:09, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

Your taxes

Take a look at this. It clearly states that a nonresident married to a resident only has to declare Arizona-derived income. If your income is from sources outside of Arizona, it need not be reported to, or taxed by, Arizona. :-> Watery Tart (talk) 02:12, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

Dang, it's stuff like that that makes me wonder why anyone bothers to get married at all! It is simply more expensive taxwise, and 12 times the headache. Watery Tart (talk) 02:23, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

Scrubs (My Bad)

Wondering why you keep deleting this episode, considering there is no consensus and you don't have the authority to move the page. If you read the discussions on the talk page you'll realize no consensus was ever reached. Anyway this episode is notable due to the first appearance of Jordan Sullivan (a main character). I want to edit the episode, but its impossible if I have to spend half an hour trying to find it and then you delete it anyway. Tej68 (talk) 02:05, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

Image:Britney Spears - Circus.jpg

I gotta say, I don't see it. I wouldn't be surprised if this were the real deal. :) --Amalthea 02:55, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

Peter Blum

I woulld like to thankyou for your very fast assistance on the AfD talk page. I have left appropriate messages on Klipfontein's. Again, Thankyou--intraining 03:19, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

Stop reverting good edits!

Like u did here.
R u just reverting to get your edit count # up?
Why dont u make an actual worthy edit. 70.108.106.197 (talk) 10:33, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

Re: Bad link

Sure it does, I inserted the ids myself to make sure all my old links keep working. :) --Amalthea 20:33, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

That did the trick, although I just made it prettier. Cheers, Amalthea 20:40, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

Re: My Shoes

Hey! Sorry for the late reply, for some odd reason I hadn't noticed your messages before. Anyway, I'll look for sources right now. Funk Junkie (talk) 20:51, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

Checking Billboard.com, I found out that those peak positions for "My Shoes" are fake, and that "Outside Looking In" and "Jump to the Rhythm" are Jordan Pruitt's only singles to chart on Billboard to date, so I've just removed the charts table in the My Shoes article. There were also fake positions in In Love for a Day, which I promptly removed as well. Funk Junkie (talk) 21:20, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

Well done. Funk Junkie (talk) 21:39, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

Reply.

I'm not sure RFPP is the way to go as page protection might be overkill. But I do think a "Articles for Redirect" or using AfD to discuss redirects would be good. The thing I'd want is someplace to discuss them that either the person doing the redirect or the person wanting the redirect undone could go to. As it stands the "redirector" can go to AfD (and TNN is doing that all the time) but the other side of the discussion can't do anything other than edit war. So any solution that both sides can use would be great by me. AfD isn't that, and shouldn't be used for that IMO. If it became "articles for discussion" as some have proposed that would work, but I think it needs to be something like "Articles status as delete, redirect,or keep". I'd be fine with page protection if it was needed for a redirect as long as there was a clear way to get that protection removed if it could be shown new things had happened or guidelines were otherwise met.

Good thoughts, and good discussion. Thanks. Hobit (talk) 02:38, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

Image copyright problem with Image:Marliesposter.jpg

Thank you for uploading Image:Marliesposter.jpg. However, it currently is missing information on its copyright status. Misplaced Pages takes copyright very seriously. It may be deleted soon, unless we can determine the license and the source of the image. If you know this information, then you can add a copyright tag to the image description page.

If you have uploaded other files, consider checking that you have specified their license and tagged them, too. You can find a list of files you have uploaded by following this link.

If you have any questions, please feel free to ask them at the media copyright questions page. Thanks again for your cooperation. Stifle (talk) 09:34, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

I'm confused as to why you rejected my fair use claim. The girl is missing and presumed dead by the police. Although technically she is still a "living person", this problem seems sufficient to permit fair use of the image. The article in which the picture is used makes specific reference to the poster, as well. Or is this just a problem with me filling out forms incorrectly?—Kww(talk) 11:33, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

It's a reasonable fair use image, but you need to add an appropriate image tag as well. {{non-free fair use in|Marlies van der Kouwe}} will probably do it, but WP:TAGS/FU has a full list. Stifle (talk) 12:38, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

Recreating I Want It All (High School Musical song) article

Hey...I want to recreate I Want It All (High School Musical song) article in this way. May I revert the redirect and change the original article? Is it still failing WP:MUSIC#SONGS? Message back, please. Voices4ever (talk) 15:35, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

I did what you said...so, on High School Musical 3: Senior Year (soundtrack) I added all the informations available at the moment. Thanks. Voices4ever (talk) 18:17, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

Alis.Payan

I held off on whacking Rachelfan2 until the results of that Checkuser come out--and that IP last edited last night. However, I did find another possible sock based on the Camp Rock 2 non-article's history, Rachel.Lynn (talk · contribs). Blueboy96 14:27, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

You have email. Orderinchaos 15:03, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

On second thought, I decided to spike Rachelfan2 as well ... didn't see that she and Alis.Payan were the ONLY editors to that Beverly Hills article. Meatpuppetry at the very least. Blueboy96 18:41, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

Ezequiel.Pena tagged and bagged. *sigh* As far as I'm concerned, this user is banned. Blueboy96 12:41, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

I've already made Camp Rock 2 (film) a protected redirect to Camp Rock, and also protected the Camp Rock 2 redirect. I'm holding off on Beverly Hills Kids and Teens for now--though I have the salt shaker ready just in case it's created again. Blueboy96 12:53, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

14 socks confirmed--including seven we didn't know about. And the range has been hardblocked three months. Good grief ... Blueboy96 17:20, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

Good work, all - and thanks for bringing it to AN/I :) Orderinchaos 04:31, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

Heyheygimmesoccermeko?

The user has completely avoided talk pages, and has not edited any Nicole Wray articles, so its hard to pin down, but this certainly fits the M.O. of adding unsourced rumors to R&B singer articles, no? --Jayron32.talk.contribs 22:24, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for exlaining the difference between the two editors. If you need semi-protection on any articles that are frequent targets for them, let me know and I will see what I can do! --Jayron32.talk.contribs 11:45, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

Having looked at the edit history of those two articles, I would agree that it certainly passes the duck test for Soccermeko's standard pattern of behavior. I have semiprotected the articles for 1 month. If he shows up elsewhere, let me know... --Jayron32.talk.contribs 12:19, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

Nicole Parker Impressions

If you think there is no need for impressions, then go to frank caliendo, he is a impressionist

if you watch Nicole Parker on MADtv she is a impressionist and she collaborate with characters, too me it is a insult to take someone impressions where she has performed them on the show since 2003, so i beg to keep her impressions on her page because she has done allot for MADtv and i think her impressions is one thing she does great with

Nicole Parker Impressions

If you think there is no need for impressions, then go to frank caliendo, he is a impressionist

if you watch Nicole Parker on MADtv she is a impressionist and she collaborate with characters, too me it is a insult to take someone impressions where she has performed them on the show since 2003, so i beg to keep her impressions on her page because she has done allot for MADtv and i think her impressions is one thing she does great with —Preceding unsigned comment added by Madtv12 (talk • contribs) 22:48, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

Reply to Nicole Parker

My reason is that her impression list has been on her page for a very long time and then you decide to come in and delete it, i understand what you mean...but you are basically telling me that she as a impressionist is not as big as Frank Caliendo or Darrell Hammond.

Now she has done all her impressions on MADtv since she first came on the series, and too me it is a slap in the face...because it makes no since because you have Mo Collins, Stephnie Weir, Michael McDonald, Aries Spears, Etc who all have Impressions on there list so can you please just not focus one person when there are allot other talents...no offense but your basically saying Nicole Parker impressions are not out there. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Madtv12 (talk • contribs) 01:06, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

Just a sample

Well, that is what we can expect over the next 36 hours. At least that one was rational. Judging by my two prior TFA experiences, a lot are not. And, as I've indicated, I think Joran is pond scum, but fair is fair, if we refer to Natalee as an honors student, we have to give Joran his due. Maybe they got together to discuss their MENSA applications?--Wehwalt (talk) 12:02, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

Removal of reactions of Danity Kane breakup

As I stated on the other editor's talk page who removed the fan reactions, your removal of the reactions by fans simply because they are fan opinions is unwarranted. I could see if these reactions were a lot or were not sourced, or both, and do not enhance the article, but they are not a lot, are sourced (with valid sources) and do enhance the article. Not to mention that I made sure to word the reactions in an encyclopedic manner. There is no Misplaced Pages policy that states such reactions cannot be included. There are plenty of articles on Misplaced Pages, including Good and Featured articles, that have fan reaction information.

If you would rather I not include the exact quotes, and instead relay what fans thought in my own wording, like I did with a bit of the reaction some fans have had to Dawn Angelique Richard in regards to the Danity Kane's breakup, then I am fine with that. But information on what fans think is absolutely allowed. Flyer22 (talk) 19:38, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

As stated on my talk page, okay, I cut it down, and did not use the exact quotes. Flyer22 (talk) 19:59, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

Surprise

It's the barnstar for your help that you gave to me and other ones! Pedrovip 21:18, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

Thanks!

That message in my talk page, really meaned a lot to me!

Pedrovip (talk) 20:27, 22 October 2008 (UTC)Pedrovip

.

What templates actually do? editprotected was because a user was posting M. + M. are gay. It is vandalism. Pedrovip (talk) 15:52, 23 October 2008 (UTC)Pedrovip

How many time is a user blocked

I wanna now, if i will be blocked, how many time? I already seen a user blocked 24 hours, and another 1 week. But what is the real deal? Pedrovip (talk) 19:30, 23 October 2008 (UTC)Pedrovip

It depends on the scenario; if the account is made only for vandalism, it will be blocked indefinitely. If it's a long-time abuser, like the Grawp mob, it will be blocked on sight. There are also short-term blocks for disruption or for compromised accounts. Blake Gripling (talk) 03:26, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

From Geniusdream

We have both resolved the war in editing, we have agreed already about the issue and I'll be working on the article, Sarah Geronimo for about 2-3 days to find references and re-edit the article as we have agreed. --Geniusdream (talk) 03:24, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

That is indeed weird

But the bot seems to work now. All is good. --harej 00:58, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

Re:Geniusdream

I dunno, it could be him, since the anons just kept on reverting my revisions to the ones by the fanboy. Blake Gripling (talk) 01:25, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

What Misplaced Pages's Not, "Not a Forum"

I'm posting here. This doesn't belong on the main page if I'm going to discuss my specific case, but you're a good detective. Thanks for paying attention. You saw what spurred my interest in this particular topic of discussion. The user in question who edited my remarks in a talk page has been a very busy beaver. I know he's asked my permission subsequently to edit my remarks, but I'm not so certain he's ever found it necessary in previous cases.

His overbearing edits made me curious. Upon examining the edit history of changes he's made attributed to "not a forum" (which are numerous) very many of which are on talk pages and some user pages. I do not have the experience to determine how justified these edits are. All I can say is that they had the effect of scaring me and shocking me.

In one case, he had gone into a user's space that was being used to work on a Misplaced Pages page and took away the entire page. Again, I am not knowledgeable enough in these matters to say how this could have been justified. All I can say is that I cannot see how someone could ever be justified going into someone's personal workspace that is being used to work on a Misplaced Pages page, summarize "not a forum" and take out all of that person's work. I'm not actually complaining at this point, I am just absolutely bewildered about this situation. --VictorC (talk) 05:47, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

Ahh... okay, I should have assumed there was history there. I was in the States the whole time, but I assumed since it basically became an international incident, nearly leading to trade sanctions, etc., that most informed Europeans would be aware of it. I saw on his user page that he was from Spain and thought he possibly just wasn't aware of the significance of the whole Holloway story. Thanks for the heads up. I'll just steer clear. --JayHenry (talk) 02:09, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

from --Geniusdream (talk) 12:40, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

It's not that, its just that others are just vandalizing the page, like editors that are only IP addresses and furthermore, when others revert the article, the references provided will be disregarded.

--Geniusdream (talk) 12:40, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Opinion on identity of user

See: this dif's edit summary and this dif's edit summary. The account dates to 2006, so it might not be who I think it is, but the grammar seems quite, um, familiar? --Jayron32.talk.contribs 18:22, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

I think not. SM's grammar is marked by a failure to grasp verb tenses and the proper use of auxiliaries. This is more tough-boy gang slang. I wish we only had one bad editor with bad grammar to deal with, but there's an unfortunately large quantity.—Kww(talk) 18:27, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Gotcha. Anyhoo, later... --Jayron32.talk.contribs 18:30, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Use of album covers -- Danity Kane article

If album covers can only be used in articles about the albums, then why would Misplaced Pages have these options when you upload an album cover?

Options:

How will the album/single cover be used in Misplaced Pages?

• in an infobox about the album/single.
• in a header at the top of the article about the album/single.
• in a section devoted to the album/single.
• in an article about the album/single's artist, used to identify the artist's work.
• for some other use.

You see? I was going for option #3. Although I was not for both album covers being within the article. A different editor had recently added the second album cover. But having the first album cover...I feel is an enhancement to the article's readability, seeing as it is their debut album. Plus, it is in the section about the album. Flyer22 (talk) 00:05, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

Besides that, I provided a fair-use rationale for that second use to go along with the fair use rationale for its first use. Flyer22 (talk) 00:10, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

Responded on may talk page, of course. Remember that I only want to use one album cover in this article, their debut one, when you list this issue at NFCC. Flyer22 (talk) 17:02, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

Insulting Category

WP:NP

There is nothing less insulting than being called hilarious. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Syphon8 (talk • contribs) 02:33, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

from --Geniusdream (talk) 05:55, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

How come the article was improved, it now has lesser references and besides the length of an article doesn't really matter, read one of the guidelines in wikipedia, it says that putting information in this site is unlimited for as long as it has references. --Geniusdream (talk) 05:55, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

Montage images as navigational elements

At least five administrators (User:Coren, User:Edokter, User:Fish and karate, and User:SoWhy) disagree with your application of that guideline. Please, read the discussion at Misplaced Pages:Images_and_media_for_deletion/2008_October_23#Image:Companions.jpg before reverting again. Thank you, --Hammersoft (talk) 13:53, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

No. You're oversimplifying my position, again. I agree that a serious reexamination of exactly how much fair use is "minimal" is appropriate, but you are being repeatedly pointy in trying to impose your own position on the matter. You might want to note that you score very few points by building up strawmen to knock down. I've commented on the image debate as well. — Coren  18:46, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

Please do not misrepresent my opinion. As each image is unique in it's application, you cannot simply transpond my arguments for the Companions image to the Cheeta Girls image. — Edokter • Talk • 20:04, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

• To both Coren and Edokter; I mispresented nothing. Both of you are in support of fair use images as navigational elements. That's what I was reiterating. Regardless, it's a moot point. There's been so much fury created over the image that the disruption (which isn't me) is the fury over it. I've responded appropriately. --Hammersoft (talk) 21:38, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

Just to confirm that Hammersoft is misrepresenting my views, to add to his continuing disruptive antics. I wonder if an RFC may be appropriate. fish&karate 23:45, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

Refactoring

I refactored your IFD at Misplaced Pages:Images and media for deletion/2008 October 29 to be in sequential time order, adding it to what would have been the bottom of the list when you added it. This is how IFDs are added, rather than at the top, per Misplaced Pages:IFD#Listing_images_and_media_for_deletion item #2 "list the image at the bottom of that page". Trying to help, --Hammersoft (talk) 16:49, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

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I Just Added the new impression list

is that ok?

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GTD-5

Just ran across your GTD-5 article, very nicely done. I always thought the hardware architecture was elegant. I did 2nd level T/S for GTE '84-'87, taught L1/L2/L3 maintenance and met a few of your peers during trips to Phoenix. Best regards, Chuckiesdad (talk) 21:54, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

Copyright violation?

How would it be a copyright violation if the photo was taken by ME during her concert in LA? Im gonna put it back since this is an up to date photo of Tina. —Preceding unsigned comment added by WalaCce (talk • contribs) 14:01, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

Its not possible to post it directly from my camera anymore since everything was already backed up in my computer and deleted from the camera. What does OTRS stands for? —Preceding unsigned comment added by WalaCce (talk • contribs) 16:35, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

Well all i did was move the images to my computer and save as a bitmap to gain a higher resolution but when I tried to upload it here that format was not accepted, so I used a program to turn it into a Jpeg, I dont know why but that infos about the camera model and etc disapeared.

When I changed the format the images were all duplicated and I probably deleted the original ones or at least some of them. Im new here and when i was uploading the photo I was asked to put a copyright tag, but it has no copyrights! Its just a photo taken during a live concert, one can even see that the quality is not that good too.--WalaCce (talk) 17:26, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

Ok thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by WalaCce (talk • contribs) 19:48, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

Re: WP:BADCHARTS

I do. I was already aware of most of them, but thanks anyway! I felt free to add the Polish National Top 50 to the list as it was missing. Should we also add the Portuguese National Top 50 (even though it never had an article)? Funk Junkie (talk) 19:54, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

I've just done. Feel free to have your say. Funk Junkie (talk) 20:29, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

Someone typed the wrong number?

OK. How about you do the number thing because I am horrible at nominating pages for speedy deletion. I just figure out why, and back some of them up if I think it is necessary, like a lawyer? I don't know.

Thanks for bringing that to my attention. Really!

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Hoaxes

"Am I just getting better at spotting them, or are there more and more of these things?" Maybe both. By the way, someone's nominated me for a 7th rfa without asking me first. Should I run with it or just say no, not now? Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • 04:17, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

Singles, songs and music videos

Were disputes over what qualified for singles, songs and music videos ever get resolved? I think it's a stretch saying someone singing some silly song on some show satisfied specs for a music video. Gimmetrow 18:44, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

I'm not aware of any broad consensus on the topic. Can you be specific as to what performance you don't think qualifies?—Kww(talk) 18:47, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

To be specific, "Really Great" is performed in character (poor singing voice) to the melody of "London bridge is falling down". I also find it very odd to think adding a soundtrack to a movie clip makes a "music video". Gimmetrow 18:58, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

I'll support you that in-character performances don't count. As for soundtrack addition: if they just take a 2:30 second section of a show and run a song in the background, I would argue that that isn't a video. If they take a song and build a clip montage over it, I think it probably would count.—Kww(talk) 19:24, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

Ashley Tisdale discography

Alright, I re-added the references, I deleted them by mistake. Sorry. —Riomet(talk) 15:24, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

Help me!

Hey, I found two new peak positions for "He Said She Said" and "Not Like That" (songs by Ashley Tisdale) but the name of the chart is Bayerische Single-Charts...where's Bayerische? My source is german, you can check here , searching by Tisdale on Bayerische chart...Thanks so much! —Riomet(talk) 19:08, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. —Riomet(talk) 11:10, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Your bot idea

Regarding this, any idea where to start, I think it's a great idea. — Realist 14:44, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

Hi and sorry

Oh sorry for that reverting. Read the talk page. Gimmetrow and my comments. I am trying my best to clear the incorrent things in the article, used Gimmetrow's comments and guidance as help so can i try working on my version of the article and using Gimmetrow's comments to improve. Just like what i did before you reverted it to Gimmetrow's last version.HanniMontLol(talk) 14:43 , 8 November 2008 (UTC)

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Re: Uninvolved admin

If you are looking for uninvolved admins, start a thread at WP:AN or WP:ANI. You will get a lot more opinions than mine. Alternately, if you believe there to be widespread sockpuppetry, you can file a report at WP:RFCU to ask a checkuser to look in at it. --Jayron32.talk.contribs 16:51, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

re:Spam blacklist

I have no problem whatsoever with those being added. I have only ever participated in comments/discussion in that area, however — I have not nominated anything nor have I blocked any sites myself. If you do decide to suggest a block on those, let me know and I'll agree! - eo (talk) 19:16, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Cold fusion

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AIV

That's alright - I "go by the book" simply because I then don't have to make value judgements, but I have no problem if an admin takes a different view. I noted that one report hadn't vandalised since the final warning, and then checked it again with a view to removing it, found they had resumed vandalising after my comment was made - so I blocked them for 31 hours... In the end, we all work to the benefit of the encyclopedia. LessHeard vanU (talk) 22:41, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

I suspect that if there was a "separate book" for death hoaxes then the number of such incidents will increase; there is nothing better a troll likes than being noticed. A death hoax is vandalism as much as "is a poopy" stuff - warn 'em, report 'em, and clear up the mess they made. I have a fairly standard blocking notice for vandals, "X hours standard vandalism block", to try and cut down on any thrill they get for being found out. It comes down to personal approaches, and this is mine. LessHeard vanU (talk) 22:52, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Protected for the requested 3 days, but if the hoax is taken down speedily then it can be returned to semi. If you are keeping an eye on things, let me know if you need the status changed. LessHeard vanU (talk) 23:10, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

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BADCHARTS

My mistake. WP:BADCHARTS should include the fact that airplay charts are not permitted under WIKI:CHARTS. Many airplay charts have been removed from many FAs.Reqluce (talk) 12:12, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

Concept album

If you have a chance and the inclination, could you stop by concept album and drop some suggestions on the talk page? The article is an unholy mess and I don't even know where to start. Thanks in advance! —Hello, Control 21:38, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

Hey

I wrote an update on User talk:Star Mississippi if you want to read it. It's heading is -Hi, Update- DellLaptop! Talk 00:53, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

Image removal

I did everything according to the Misplaced Pages:Non-free content criteria. I think the changes should be reverted and the image/article be submitted for review. Bab-a-lot (talk) 02:28, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

My Writing

In All Honesty, That's How I Write My Comments Everyhere.

Misplaced Pages, IMDB, Youtube (Can't Bold There), etc.

(Well, Capitalizing Has Been A Newer Thing) But Bolding, Double-Spacing Sentences, etc.

I Even Did Those Things On School Papers. That's Just How I Write.

It Has Nothing To Do With Trying To Get Attention, Really.

As For Distracting & Annoying, You're The Very 1st Person To Mention That & I've Been An Active Member On Misplaced Pages For Over 2 & 1/2 yrs.

Besides I've Seen People Use Colors Which Trust Me, Is 10x More Distracting.

I Understand Why You Might Find It A Tad Annoying But I Swear It's Not My Intention To Annoy You/Anyone & It's Absolutely Not For Attention. Just A Habit. :-D

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Brandy Article Reply

Just In Case You Don't Get Back To The Article, I Decided To Post My Reply Here. I Hope You Don't Mind. And I Took Out The Bold & Spaces In The Sentences For You.

Firstly, What I Meant Was To Rename It "Brandy (entertainer)" Instead Of "Brandy Norwood", My Mistake For Forgetting To State That Part. Simply Because According To Wikipeda & I Quote "...use the most common name of a person or thing..." Basically The Most Recognizable Name. I See What You Were Saying Too. "...that does not conflict with the names of other people or things...". That's Why I Meant "Brandy (entertainer)" I Searched That Title & It Does Not Exist Or Redirect Anywhere. I Also Checked "Brandy Disambiguation" Just To Make Sure.

Brandy Is Not Only The Name People Know Her By But It's Also The Name She Uses Professionally As A Singer (On Her Albums) & Actress (Movies & TV Shows)

Secondly, Calling Her "Norwood" Throughout The Article Makes Sense, I Apparently Wasn't Fully Awake When I Made That Edit (lol)

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How much longer

Ok, neither you or User:Star Mississippi are answering any of my comments and the sockpuppet case on me is 10 days old and in the notes for the suspect it said if the the accuser didn't request check user in 10 days the case would be closed it's been ten days and it hasn't closed. Someone just pleae answer me. -DellLaptop! 00:36, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

Thank you

Thanks for your conscientious efforts and hard work. UWC "will" drive you mad haha Eight88 (talk) 04:25, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

Question

Is this chart reliable?, I've seen people use it to skip around the "Brazil Hot 100" thing and using this for a "Brazil Singles Chart". Cheers. — Realist 15:06, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

It's a mirror. I updated WP:BADCHARTS to note that.—Kww(talk) 15:16, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

Thank you. :-) — Realist 15:21, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

UWC

The UWC is clearly on WP:BADCHARTS, and that reference was clearly to the UWC. mediatraffic.de is already on Xlinkbot's list of sites to remove when it is added, and I am preparing for getting it placed on the spam blacklist. If you have an alternate source for information, please feel free to use it.—Kww(talk) 16:24, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

(This discussion is in connection with changes made to Wish You Were Here (album)) I'll leave your latest revert as is, but some comments as to why another user probably reverted your change, and I did it as well: It's a little confusing to point to a list of depreciated charts when the site name is not the same as the chart name, especially since part of that list deals with site names (URLs). It's also confusing that the site name is something that you intend to add to the list, but are already deleting entries before completing that task. It's also confusing that the depreciated list appears to be a list of articles that have been deleted, with the presumption that if the article is gone, that automatically blacklists the chart, and I don't see that as being necessarily so. It seems to me that charts, websites, and WP articles about charts and/or websites are three different things, and are being confusingly meshed together. I also wonder if the arguments against these charts, as presented in the article deletion logs, apply to the site or collection of charts as a whole, or just portions of it, and other portions might be reliable. I note that the depreciated chart list describes it as "United World Chart/Global Top 40 Albums" which could mean only a list of top 40 albums is in dispute (which is not the particular list being removed as a reference in the Wish You Were Here article). Hopefully these issues can be cleared up, otherwise deletions like this are going to be contested. --A Knight Who Says Ni (talk) 16:54, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

The discussion was at Misplaced Pages talk:Record charts#Deprecated charts, and the consensus was that all those charts were to be deleted. The text we are talking about says "The album sold 21 million copies worldwide.<ref name=mediatr></ref>. I don't know how much clearer a reference to the United World Chart can be. The reason I do this work before getting it on the spam blacklist is that it's confusing to people. They make another change in the article, and then can't save it because it contains the blacklisted URL. If I get all references out of article space first, that doesn't happen.—Kww(talk) 17:01, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

Didn't notice one issue: "Global Top 40" is a mirror of the UWC album chart. I'll see if I can make that clearer in the listing.—Kww(talk) 17:04, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

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May I Ask A Favor, Please?

I was wondering if you could help me with an editing problem. I was editing the music video section in the article "It's Over (Jesse McCartney song)" & I added a citation & quotes, along with some other things & now everything after the music video section is gone from the page but when I go to the edit page it's there. Since you have more experience can you help me? Please & thank you!

Baby16 (talk) 21:23, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

I didn't know how to fix it or what was wrong. Thank you for trying to help me.

I appreciate it!

Baby16 (talk) 21:55, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

New Fiction proposal

Just a heads up, a proposal I informally made a while ago has now been formally offered at Misplaced Pages:Notability (fiction). The aim is to identify a pragmatic approach that reflects what is actually done on AfD, as opposed to an ideological approach. So while it's unlikely to appeal to partisans on either side, I think it represents a good and workable compromise. Any comments at Misplaced Pages talk:Notability (fiction) will be greatly appreciated. Phil Sandifer (talk) 00:22, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

Ashley Tisdale

Hey, are you or were you reviewing Ashley Tisdale's article? --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 18:43, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

Of course not, I would never do that to an article. I would be happy to take over the review, as I noticed some things that need to be fixed, that's if your cool with it. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 18:50, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for your blessing. :) --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 18:52, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

Netherlands chart

Would you mind voicing your knowledge on this discussion, a little confused. Thank you in advance. — Realist 18:53, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

RFC update

I know it's been a long and tedious process. But the analysis of the RFC discussion is underway, so that an objective party can give an honest assessment of the common ground. One of the analysts requested some context on the dispute. So I'm trying to help him out. You'd be helping things along if you could check in quickly at the talk page, if only to offer a quick comment. I'm asking you because I know you've been involved pretty heavily throughout the dispute, and have seen all kinds of opposition to WP:N. Randomran (talk) 07:14, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

DJ, Take Me Away

Hmm, I'd say just merge them all to a list. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • 02:31, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

White slavery

Yes, I did see the subsection, but the article seemed to deal with the concept in a historical sense, so I thought it better simply to link to the article as a whole. No biggie either way. And yes, in the month that the US has elected a black president, to keep using terms like that . . . --Wehwalt (talk) 01:38, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

CHARTS

so... why you leave all americatop100.com charts and deleted Chile charts with this source too? Ecuador, Bolivia, Mexico, Colombia... you leave these and deleted only chile charts? and you deleted CHILE TOP 100 but leave ARGENTINA TOP 40? suck! TOP LATINO is sourced for a blog and no DELETED? i dont understand ... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.82.194.246 (talk) 17:42, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

Top Latino <-- This is a Blog!!! and continue in Misplaced Pages and Mexico Top 100 <--- This is by Americatop100.com a unofficial website and you deleted all Chile Top 100 sourced by these and Mexico Top 100 continue here...? explain me please.

(talk) 17:50, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

yeah ... sure this is all so stupid other blogs charts continue here and others charts with the same source are deleted and other no... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.82.194.246 (talk) 18:10, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

Unblocking

Can you please unblock me and "PopSinger623". We really want to make articles and things like that. We really didn't do anything wrong. We are in the same ip address so we can't make articles on either one of our user names. Help us! :( Hyp3rpimp96 (talk) 21:30, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

Barnstar

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RE: Popsinger

Hello,

I restored his 'bogus article' per this edit. The user didn't know how to restore it from the history, and you can see I unblocked him, here an administrator had told me to write an article, or expand one per this edit if he wished to be unbanned, so I felt that he should be allowed to edit his user talk.

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I Hate This Part

Alright, I understand about the German chart and I will try to find a reliable one, but what's wrong with the Bulgaria singles chart? It's definitely more reliable than the media traffic charts. 67.172.94.65 (talk) 17:52, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

alright gotcha!

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re: Being ignored at ANI

Hey there, which incident should I be looking at? The link you gave me just brings up the main page without directing me to a particular section. - eo (talk) 21:04, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

Hello

Hello, Kww. I want to ask if you can delete an page that i created that is called 'User:Rogerchocodiles/monobook.css', which i downloaded from another person, an theme for Misplaced Pages, but i hate it.. Please remove that page! ROGERCHOCODILES 09:58, 2 December 2008 (UTC)Rogerchocodiles

Can you check this?

Can I get your opinion on something? Honestly, tell me if I'm overstepping here... I'm kind of in a disagreement with User:Alextwa because s/he feels that an album review from The Times does not belong in the Keeps Gettin' Better: A Decade of Hits article. Basically, he keeps removing it; I keep putting it back. His claim is that the album review is "too short" and "not detailed enough". I realize it's not a pages-long review, but my argument is that The Times is a very reputable publication and the review's length should not matter — this is not a blog we're talking about here. There is a discussion on the album's Talk Page, if you want to chime in. This is not a huge deal, I just want some fresh eyes on it in case I'm being ridiculous. Thanks. - eo (talk) 12:43, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

stop vandalizing

Please, stop vandalizing the article Enjoy the Ride (song). There are many, many other song articles which haven't charted in any of the charts and are still separated atricles, so I don't understand why you keep wanting Enjoy the Ride not to be a separated article. STOP THAT!!! Will it make your life easier if you keep doing this....??? Seki rs (talk) 19:05, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

enjoy the ride

Oh My God...what do you have against this article... stop being rude Seki rs (talk) 19:28, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

I had a question from Tau'ri278

Hi i am Tau'ri278, I am from the Stargate Wikia and we just had a problem with someone whos name was 'Kwwsucks' and we assumed he had a run-in with you. Have you had any problems here with anyone of that name? or anyone at all? This guy/girl seems like they just want attention and are willing to vandalize pages to get it.

If you have any infromation on this please write to me on my Talk page. Thank you for the help in advance.

Tau'ri278 (talk) 01:19, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks Kww, I looked into it and i think you might be correct in assuming this leonhart/zbeeblebrocks guy. I will inform some people at Stargate Wikia about him, I don't know if he has changed as it looks like he did here or if maybe a younger sibling or idiotic friend got the same idea. Oh well, thank you and we will continue to have our eyes out on his progress.

Live Long and Prosper, Tau'ri278 (talk) 01:36, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

Permanently banning myself and others

I was a bit surprised to see you calling for the ban of myself, Jim Butler, Hans Adler, and Levine2112 for life . Would you care to justify your remark? II | (t - c) 02:44, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

Thoughts

Do you think branching out a section for unreliable web links was good. My feeling was the chart section was starting to look a little complicated, to a section dedicated to web links seems wise. — Realist 21:26, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

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I don't know what you're talking about.. I make contributions to Wiki! Not all the time. So, how are you? ROGERCHOCODILES 11:10, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

Can you sign my guestbook? Please.. ROGERCHOCODILES 11:21, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

Sorry that. I will contribute better but i'm just an normal user! ROGERCHOCODILES 15:16, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

:-(

Just to clarify, I still have the title of best user page don't I? I haven't lost that? :-) — Realist 16:39, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

Don't!

The positions of "Don't!" on the Billboard charts are clearly located at the top of the page that is sourced. Thankyoubaby (talk) 16:40, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

You're probably unaware…

…That you have a query here, specifically asking for you. DiverseMentality 06:09, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

Re comments on Talk:Miley Cyrus

The comment I removed was made by one of the socks that inserted the original rumor from the gossip site. I was just cleaning up. --NrDg 18:05, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

World Singles Official Top 100

So the World Singles Official Top 100 is part of top40-charts.com? Ok, then, but please say so in the edit summary in future, as the link you provided was inadequate to prove the chart was amongst the dodgy ones. Thanks, Blood Red Sandman 15:36, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

D'oh!

I forgot to suggest adding that to the article...ARGHHHHH!--Editor510 21:15, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

Punkox

It seems like they're starting to do this here again. See this edit where they put their edit back using their ip (dynamic, I think you know that by now?). You were also right about that they don't seem to act upon warnings. Any suggestions? --Kanonkas :  Talk  22:53, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

Block Punkox indef, semi-protect all the Jessica Simpson articles for a few weeks.—Kww(talk) 23:50, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

Seems like NrDg got this one, I think. --Kanonkas :  Talk  00:28, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

Your note on my talkpage re: SSP

Hey, thanks for the explanation! I think my reluctance to wade in is more about that "reasonable doubt" bit--people in my real life know: I am a doormat. Give me the SLIMMEST splinter to hang good faith on, and I'm right in there believing... til I get stepped on. But from what you showed, some of them are just flat-out blatantly obvious--maybe I'll get my feet wet by doing a couple of those. Thanks for the encouragement! GJC 04:28, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your support

Now it will be your turn. We need to get all three of the Holloway Trio up there!--Wehwalt (talk) 12:02, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

Charts

Sorry about what's been happening recently, I feel like I'm opening a can of worms, a can I should probably reseal before I do more damage than it's worth. Me and you share pretty much the same philosophy when it comes to this stuff. — Realist 18:28, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

I'm Sorry

I'm sorry if you thought I vandalized User talk:Kurt Shaped Box, well I did not vandalize that page, I deleted the top talk page rule becuase I thought it is a wiki and anyone can edit a talk page there way. 68.34.4.143 (talk) 02:24, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

WP:RFPP

Hi there,

Sorry about that, I missed some of those links! Protected for 2 weeks as requested.

The Helpful One 21:09, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

Motormater and Override (Transformers)

Can we at least have a talk about the method of merge on the talk pages? Shouldn't this be up on the talk pages of those articles for a little bit, while people who write about the character discuess what to merge onto what pages? Mathewignash (talk) 22:51, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

HELLO~

I prefer someone call me Frankie instead of Brian Yau~

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Merry Christmas

		Merry Christmas!
		DiverseMentality is wishing you a Merry Christmas! Hope you have a great Christmas day and a happy holiday season. Stay safe! DiverseMentality 08:32, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

Joyeux Noël

Joyeux Noël, Kevin. --Pixelface (talk) 03:08, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

Season's Greetings

Re: Comments about LyricWiki

I don't have a problem with your edits, but your comments such as "it's simply copyright violation on a massive scale." are incorrect. LyricWiki actually does pay royalties. True, not to all, but not due to lack of effort. Many publishers have been contacted, but most haven't responded to the site owner's attempts. From what the owner's been told, LyricWiki is one of only three lyrics sites that pay royalties. Thanks. KieferFL (talk) 04:35, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

Image for deletion discussion you should know about

I saw you recently deleted File:Vancouver Seeds VI CD Cover.jpg from Carolyn Arends. There is a image and media for deletion discussion going on at Misplaced Pages:Images and media for deletion/2008 December 30#Vancouver Seeds VI CD Cover.jpg. Aspects (talk) 15:03, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

The_View_from_Here edit

You removed a large section from The_View_from_Here. Your initial comment was something to the effect that an improper attribution was supplied; however, you didn't bother to provide any guidance on how to cite the text you deleted. Rather than simply vent your spleen by deleting things, please make an actual contribution to Misplaced Pages by assisting with creation of an appropriate citation.

I have restored the text. Your current comment that says your edit was obviously correct is erroneous. If the edit was self evident then I wouldn't be objecting. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Crath (talk • contribs) 16:41, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

Image Replacement

This commet is from File talk:HesABullyCharlieBrown.jpg.

This Image needs to be replaced with a screenshot of the title, is there anybody who is able to accept my request? 68.34.4.143 (talk) 19:24, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

Go fuck yourself!...

Delete this!... G.-M. Cupertino (talk) 14:31, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Whiner!... You try to prevent people from doing their job just because they're trying to remove their own words from a talk page!... That's petty!... I was just doing my job and just because you son of a bitch got insulted you blocked me, huh? Never mind, I never intended to keep talking to you. Well, apparently you don't like to delete things!... Maybe you like to be insulted or ass kicked!... Oh, but don't worry, I have many ways to proceed my job: another computer, or perhaps using another person's account that might "lend" it to me!... We're through!... G.-M. Cupertino (talk) 10:51, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

G.-M. Cupertino

I see that you're having some trouble with Mr. Cupertino as well. He's been a problem editor for a lot of us, which is why I had an arbitration case taken against him. I'm not entirely sure how it works once the case is open, but as I understand it you are welcome to say something if you want to. The arbitration request is here for you to see, but don't post here: Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/G.-M. Cupertino. If you're willing to include evidence, then post it here: Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/G.-M. Cupertino/Evidence. Thanks. Rwiggum (/_Contrib) 17:00, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

Interested in joining?

We need good people: Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Record Charts - eo (talk) 13:42, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Secret Page: I quit

I'm no longer anymore finding secret pages. But i'm planning to make contributions to Wiki soon. I'm sorry i can't donate to Misplaced Pages, i'm too young and i don't have a credit card. Happy New Year! pedrojoão 16:38, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

RE:Hero

Unless it is on ANI, I don't see discussion as wasted time. I am aware of BRD, I cite it often, and if you had taken the time to look at the talkpage, you would have noticed there was advance warning of what I was going to do, and that it was you who did not get involved in the discussion. This is an extraordinary cover that is taking an extraordinary amount of space in the original article. A cover version is not relevant to the original artist. A cover that sells 500,000 copies is notable in its own right. Woody (talk) 00:58, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

United World Chart

Sorry, I won't do it again. - Decodet (talk) 16:48, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

Symptoms of You (Lindsay Lohan song)

someone created an article for a lindsay lohan song Symptoms of You (Lindsay Lohan song), it was never a single..it should not have a page.....i think it should be deleted as soon as possible....can u help me nominate it for deletition........

Anywhere But Home (talk) 09:40, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

I am not deleting the archive of the N. Parker section, there is no reason, its my page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Madtv12 (talk • contribs) 22:48, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

Punkox

I reported PunkoXofb to NrDg, as he was the original blocking admin of Punkox (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log). I wouldn't quibble if you blocked him yourself.—Kww(talk) 23:47, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

Hey there. Thanks for the heads up on the vandal. I was away, but it looks like all is settled and the user is blocked. Thanks. Orane (talk) 02:31, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

KWW, I DELETED THE ISSUE AND NOW ITS BACK ON THERE, I DELETED AND I WANTED IT GONE. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Madtv12 (talk • contribs) 05:25, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

Re: Chart guide

Yes, it's definitely useful. Just one question: why is the word "Ultratop" everywhere? I also didn't quite figure out what each symbol means; perhaps an explanatory legend could help. I also noticed there are a few missing links, such as that of the Austrian and the Argentine certifications. Funk Junkie (talk) 17:16, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Are you sure about Ultratop operating the other sites? I thought SwissCharts.com did so. Anyhow, I thought it might be a good idea to use the link names, such as 'LesCharts.com', 'ItalianCharts.com', and so on, so as to avoid any possible confusion—it's just a thought. I'll fill in a few empty spaces; let me know if you find something you don't agree with. Funk Junkie (talk) 17:50, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

Funny one

"...sucked into the Disney morass..." Gimmetrow 00:41, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

PopSinger623

Well, the user contacted me, and I assumed good faith. It is easy enough to reblock, and I (or any admin) will do so at the slightest sign of a resumption of previous behavior, as I indicated in the unblock message. Prodego 01:58, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

If I unblocked him, that means I take responsibility for that unblock. I unblocked the user because he said he wanted to edit productively. If he shows any signs of not, he will be blocked again. No big deal. Prodego 02:02, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

And thus, reblocked. Prodego 02:05, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

No damage was done. Prodego 02:18, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Oops...

Soory about that. I found it with no deletion notice and I had no idea it was a reposted AfD deletion. Thanks for letting me know. How can I help fix the problem? --PMDrive1061 (talk) 04:08, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

• On my way. Thanks for alerting me. --PMDrive1061 (talk) 04:10, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

OK, she's gone on a four-day vacation. Talk to ya soon. --PMDrive1061 (talk) 04:13, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

All set. It's admin only now. Signing off...--PMDrive1061 (talk) 04:23, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

Just Dance

Hey Kww, can you please check "Just Dance" to see whether the divisions for the charts in 2008 and 2009 are correct? I'm not exactly sure. Please help. "Legolas" (talk) 06:04, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

Hey can you come to WP:Record charts for a discussion on where a single should be placed if it charts in two different years. P.S. : I would appreciate if you would atleast reply back to my messages. "Legolas" (talk) 13:16, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

No probs, but we do need to form an opinion about this situation, User:Realist2, User:Ericorbit, User:Efe all have different opinion about it. "Legolas" (talk) 13:25, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

My Life Would Suck Without You (Kelly Clarkson Single)

Hi, thanks for the message. I have protected the redirect as you suggest. It will expire at 02:55 on the 19th. Kind regards, --Malcolmxl5 (talk) 02:59, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Rihanna

yeah, u right sorry User:Vitorvicentevalente (talk) 15:18, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Requests for adminship/Kanonkas

Thank you Kww for voting in my successfully closed RfA! I'm glad that you trust me. Ping me if you need anything (I hope I can be useful for you now!). Best regards, --Kanonkas :  Talk  18:24, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Independent sourcing for Elements of Fiction

I believe you have expressed the opinion that current draft of WP:FICT is too lax on the grounds that independent sources are required to demonstrate that an element of fiction is in some way notable. Instead, could you accept the arguement that an element of fiction that is the subject of substantial real-world coverage from a reliable source could demonstrate notability at some point in the future? It would not be unreasonable to assume that if there is good quality coverage from sources that are not independent, then an element of fiction may be important enough for independent commentators to write about it as well. If you agree this may be the case, then perhaps we can compromise on the current draft of WP:FICT, and this guideline can be rolled out for community approval. I feel agreement on this version is close, so I would be grateful if you could give serious consideration to making you willingness to compromise on this point at WT:FICT. --Gavin Collins (talk) 10:44, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

BLACK LIST

I'm gonna put in a request, but for now, that will have to do. Did you even go to the URL? —Preceding unsigned comment added by IHelpWhenICan (talk • contribs) 02:19, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Well...

I suggest you don't edit their page if you've never heard of them. I'm not being mean and I'm not saying you have to be a super fan. Anyway that URL is to the band members official Myspace blog. The news was so new, the reporters weren't on it yet. Anyway, I suggest you go to that URL if you need proof. As I said. "IF YOU GO INTO EDIT MODE, YOU CAN SEE THE URL I GOT THE INFO FROM." —Preceding unsigned comment added by IHelpWhenICan (talk • contribs) 02:33, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Well, I'll put in a request to take it off. But I copied the entry so you could see for yourself

• Wednesday, December 31, 2008
  

HAPPY New YEAR!!!
As I commence on my annual New Years ritual of cleaning out all the junk in my room ( I tend to be a pack rat) I realized I have more than just materials to clear out before 09. I have lots of emotions both good and bad that need to be put in their proper place. Many of you gave me great memories and pictures, scrap books, and letters and bottles of patron, lol, that I got caught up reminiscing for hours on my bedroom floor. I re-lived moments, remembered some of my favorite fans, wondered how they were doing and how they feel about the changes that are taking place. In these last two years I've experienced some great accomplishments but also some of the deepest depression and unhappiness I've experienced in my life. Going through the pictures I remembered how hard the fight was to look that happy for our fans. replayed all the different issues going on under that top layer that was presented to the public. And how getting those reactions and letters was the only way I could do it again in the next city. Our blessing sometime come in disguise, so being fired doesnt always mean what you think.
I know there's probably no way I can really make you understand, but what I found you guys understood about me in the things you wrote to me is "you seem very honest, down to earth, and real". You guys always asked me to keep it real and stay true to myself, so I hope you understand I am doing just that, and to continue the way I was I'd have to do the opposite. You won't see me on whatever the next installment of MTB will end up being or a apart of what DK will become, but when you do see me next there will be no doubt that I'm doing just fine! (In mary j blige voice lol) you guys will recognize this representation of D.Woods from the split second glimpses I was able to show over the past two years, I hope yall will stay down and continue to support. Happy New Year!
PS...shout out to Carlos from d.woods web, anthony from the Bay, and imelda from Ireland, and all yall I can't name cuz there's too many! Xoxoxoxo
DWOODS
missdwoods.com
Independence Day is coming —Preceding unsigned comment added by IHelpWhenICan (talk • contribs) 02:46, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Don't forget WP:GNG

In the AfD for Get On Your Boots you state the article should be protected against recreation until its release date as that is the earliest it could chart. However, this doesn't take count of the general notability guideline which any article can meet (and this one does) at any time. Given that this is U2's first proper single for a while it is obviously getting coverage in reliable sources which a quick google news search shows. --JD554 (talk) 09:21, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

Then surely GNG would say that. --JD554 (talk) 11:31, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

I think it works perfectly well this way. The SNG's are wikiproject driven and give guidelines about what probably meets the criteria for notability, whereas the GNG gives general guidelines which may pick up things which don't meet the specific ones. Seems sensible to me, but I suspect we'll end up agreeing to disagree. By the way, I wasn't trying to ruin your day, at the moment I've got clear blue skies and the sun streaming in through the window warming my back and I'm looking at what's remaining of the snow on the ground. I hope your day is as nice as mine  :-) (I really mean that). --JD554 (talk) 11:57, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

It must my Canadian ancestry, but a year of sunshine would bore me stupid. Still here in the UK when we can have four seasons in a day I have to be thankful for what I can get! Cheers, --JD554 (talk) 12:11, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

Lindsay Lohan

can you tell ward to stop removing the movie screenshots....Anywhere But Home (talk) 16:16, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

RE: Can I get both of you to cease reverting for a while?

I accept your comments as done in good faith. I don't doubt that you want what is best for the article. But I think if you honestly compare my edits, reverts, etc. to those of ABH, there is a vast difference between the two. Although I don't think you intended this, I think you message to ABH and me will inspire ABH to ignore any legitimate reverts or warnings I make. That's his style. But again, I respect what you say and I don't mean any of this to be a personal attack on you. I can take the high road and stay away from ABH for a while. But since you have volunteered, I hope you'll do what needs to be done about a problem editor who, although at times well-intentioned, clearly does not understand Misplaced Pages and often makes no effort to learn. But thanks for your message. Ward3001 (talk) 16:19, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, for your comments as well as your efforts on Misplaced Pages. Cheers! Ward3001 (talk) 16:33, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

lindsay screenshots

what about the already existing screenshots of lohan in parent trap and antother world Anywhere But Home (talk) 16:51, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

and what about christian bale's article......he has a picture of him in the movie Equilibrium.....and anothe one in the movie The Machinist .......and he is a living person......why is it ok for his article and not for lohans.......Anywhere But Home (talk) 16:51, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

if u dont reply i have no choice but to revert......Anywhere But Home (talk) 16:59, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

why is everyone ignoring me.......are you all having a meeting or somethingAnywhere But Home (talk) 16:59, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

My Life Would Suck Without You

Hi
You'd really have them drag that one through DRV? That seems like a waste, too. Typically, if the reasoning behind a deletion debate changes significantly enough, I'd always think that the history can be more ore less ignored. The question that remains in this case is whether it already has with the release, or if it clearly needs to pass WP:NSONGS.
Sorry that I'm leaving you alone in that debate, but it doesn't quite seem worth it; if someone wants to work on it in earnest and not just post the typical two liner then he has my blessing, it can always be redirected or brought to AfD again in a week if it doesn't chart.
Cheers, Amalthea 21:20, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

Please do not re-add the csd template as it no longer falls into that category. jenuk1985 (talk) 21:22, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

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Thank you for your feedback. Trust me, I do want to go through the proper channels and procedures. However, I just feel this entire process was a bit of a waste of time, since this article IS going to keep re-appearing and several people DID maintain that the single was notable. Now I don't even know where to work on the article, since people keep messing with the logs, talk pages, etc. Perhaps someone will just have to start from scratch (again) in a few days. Thanks again for the note. -Whataworld06 (talk) 22:37, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

It's at User talk:Cameron Scott/My Life Would Suck Without You now if you've lost track of it, no need to start from scratch. :) --Amalthea 22:49, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

WP:NSONGS

First, if you haven't already, I'd suggest reading the footnotes to WP:BIO. There you will notice part of the purpose of some of those "sub" parts (i.e. how NSONGS is a sub of MUSIC). Part of the purpose of these "auto include" parts is to ensure coverage across the political spectrum and throughout history for like topics. But it also talks about how these people likely do have sources out there that would eventually allow for these people to pass the general N guideline. This helps address the issue with recentism of content. Most media produced in the world in the history of time is not available online, and large chunks that are online are only available via paid access. This means that say a song from 1959 that charted in 1959 could be included under the SNG guidelines (assuming a source for that is located), even though it could fail the GNG (a Top 40 chart does not provide substantial coverage to pass under N). And the song fails the GNG mainly because the content is not easily accessible. In essence the SNG guidelines are developed to help people determine what is notable in the absence of notability via N. They are designed to be more inclusive, not exclusive as each states at the top of each of these notability sub guidelines. As to forbid, it doesn't forbid any other than those that already fail N. Its more the other way around. And V (if proper applied) will kick out anything else as unsourced. Hopefully that helps. Aboutmovies (talk) 22:43, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

Boldness

Bold does have its limits. On the other hand, I confess, I'm surprised to see you back in the guideline discussion. After nearly 48 hours without you contributing to any of the major threads on the talk page, I had assumed you had abandoned the discussion.

My hope, of course, is that by the time you read this you will have already posted something to the talk page indicating a better sense of how you can be persuaded that this is the best compromise available and that it has consensus, or that you will finally present the much-awaited example of an article that would be wrongly kept under this guideline. Phil Sandifer (talk) 17:53, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

Don't change my comments

You have neither disappeared nor vanished, and if there was any credible threat to you or anyone else, you wouldn't edit under any name at all. Do not take it upon yourself to change the contents of my statements at any time.—Kww(talk) 20:31, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

Do not refer to renamed users by their old usernames. Doing so is incivil and unnecessary. It adds nothing to constructive discussions. --A Nobody 20:33, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

Labor Pains

Hi Kww. When you get a chance, would you mind looking at my comments at Talk:Labor Pains#Release date? If you agree perhaps you could make a change. Thanks. Ward3001 (talk) 22:46, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

Another one

Sorry to bother again, but could you take a look at Talk:A Little More Personal (Raw)#WP:CRYSTAL and see if any action is needed. I've also just created three sections on Talk:Lindsay Lohan that you might want to take a look at. Thanks. Ward3001 (talk) 16:24, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

WP:RS

I think I was reading an old revision (when I last read the guideline closely) that didn't include the bolded phrase in the lede. However, it seems to have been bolded in the "nutshell" since before I got here. That's really very odd because I can remember a few dozen AfD discussions which would have been easier (maybe) if I had just said "RS==independent" and linked to that part of the guideline. Hmm. Protonk (talk) 21:38, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

United World Chart

Ooops! sorry didn't realise, just saw it used on some other articles and thought it was official. Wneedham02 (talk) 22:10, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

re: Untouchable(Vanessa Hudgens Album)

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head up

Misplaced Pages:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Disruption_of_wikipedia_to_push_an_unpopular_policy

Get your tinfoil hat out. Apparently you are in cahoots with Phil to make a stir about FICT so that it will be "canvassed" on AN/I. Protonk (talk) 13:39, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

TLC

Hi. Just to let you know, you restored some content I fixed here on the TLC article. After reading WP:BADCHARTS, I'm guessing you wanted to remove the content about the United World Charts which falls under that policy. I went ahead and rolled back your edit because it added some inaccuracies (TLC has only won four Grammys, not five), an incorrectly formatted reference to a fansite of all things, and a wonky version of the awards chart that some IP tinkered with. I did however manually remove the United World Charts content per WP:BADCHARTS. Pinkadelica 01:53, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

support for fiction

I want to tell you that it is your somewhat unexpected support which at the last minute has caused me to also support the new WP:FICT. A good compromise is something that neither side really likes, but would prefer to the alternative of continued fighting and risk of total loss. What of course I will continue to defend is full and detailed content, whether merged or separate. DGG (talk) 03:40, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Opinion?

What is your opinion on the notability of American Idol Hot 100 singles? It was just created on 20 January; quite frankly I was about to nominate it at WP:AfD but thought I'd get another opinion beforehand in case I was being a bit too critical. Seems too AI fangush-y to me. - eo (talk) 21:31, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Hmm, I didn't notice it was started in 2008 - a year ago - still not sure of its relevance. Thoughts? - eo (talk) 21:42, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Well, I went ahead and nominated it - apparently it was nearly deleted before. Chime in if you feel like it, we'll see how this one goes, either way: Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/American Idol Hot 100 singles (2nd nomination). Later - eo (talk) 23:43, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

Brexx

Hi, can you please give me the low down on the edit behavior of Brexx, so I can spot his socks. Just found out that "Anywhere But Home" was a sock. — R 14:07, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

American Idol Hot 100 singles

I have made some changes to American Idol Hot 100 singles and since you voted Delete in the AfD, I would appreciate you looking at the article and telling me what you think. Aspects (talk) 19:57, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

Could it be?

I think so: Special:Contributions/4.224.186.180

Alis.Payan: contributions from the range

Hello Kww. At ANI you mentioned going through the last 100,000 edits to find anon contributions by this editor, so you may not have seen the CIDR gadget yet. The option is called: Allow /16 and /24 – /32 CIDR ranges on Special:Contributions forms.

When I checked Special:Contributions/200.88.94.0/24 I found hundreds of edits to show-business articles, so most likely they are all Alis.Payan. There were some scientific-looking edits from 2007 and earlier, but very few.

The block log for this range shows that the last previous block was only a softblock, but I agree with you that a 6-month hardblock is worth doing if checkuser approves it. EdJohnston (talk) 14:47, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

The AnonEdits tool does sound useful; how can I get it? EdJohnston (talk) 14:55, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

And...

The creator of the Katelyn Wyler article was User:BreeHills12, no other contribs, blocked per WP:DUCK (note the "12" in the username). Cheers, Black Kite 19:23, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

Neuro emotional technique

Hi I am the original poster, and was wondering what you didn't like about my research? I spent a lot of time and effort into it, only to find it keeps getting deleted. I thought encyclopedia articles were supposed to be explanatory as opposed to a paragraph or two. If you are familiar wit Neuro Emotional Technique and have better background knowledge of it, I would love to talk with you and perhaps we can come up with a better post. Please contact me if you would like to do so, as I think it might make for a post that we would both be happy with.

KBenSD KBenSD (talk) 17:07, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

Neuro emotional technique

Thank you for your response, you have some valid points. I will spend some more time with the article and see what edits would work for the benefit of the article as a whole - not just for you and me :) KBenSDKBenSD (talk) 19:33, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

an elaboration on that "good article" bit

Wikipedia_talk:Notability_(fiction)#Good_article_status

I get the feeling like my proposed change isn't much different from the previous wording that wasn't acceptable to you and Gavin (I was gone for that debate and I can't be arsed to dig through the archives). Can you drop by and take a look at it. GG seems to be pushing back against the GA thing and it is a battle I'm not interested in fighting if we don't actually mean GA status, but rather "this article could never possibly be improved from a permastub without huge masses of PLOT info", then we should probably yield a bit. Let me know if I'm giving away the cow w/ the milk. Protonk (talk) 00:06, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

Barnstar

		The Barnstar of Peace
		The Barnstar of Peace is awarded to users who have helped to peacefully resolve conflicts on Misplaced Pages. This barnstar is awarded to Kww, for his willingness to comprimise and negotiate, and his incredible help in building a better wikipedia. Ikip (talk) 17:47, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for closing the Despues de Todo AfD, Ikip (talk) 17:47, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Another Brexx sock??

I think we should keep an eye on Martzi Xmas (talk · contribs). Edits look suspicious. Thanks. Ward3001 (talk) 18:02, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Princess Protection Program

With respects inre this edit diff, The cast listing at IMDB for this completed film lists Allison Liddi as director. It also shows she is also know as Allison Liddi-Brown. While certainly IMDB has credibility problems in many areas, consensus at Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Films accepts their cast listings as reliable once a film has been completed. The listings in the provided New York Times source also confirms Allison Liddi-Brown as director, so we have confirmation and further verification. Further, the cast listing at IMDB and at the New York Times both WP:Verify the information. Since neither is a primary source and the information is not controversial or inflamatory, with respects I will be returning it and show it as attributed to the Times. Good catch. Schmidt, 04:14, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

File:Mr._Krabs.jpg

I'm curious as to your standard of evidence. The image is clearly a screenshot from a Spongebob Squarepants, and "Mr Krabs" is the name of a character in Spongebob Squarepants. What do I need to say to persuade you that the image is speediable as a copyright violation?—Kww(talk) 12:48, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

I'm not familiar with children's cartoons, and not having seen your edit summary there was no way for me to connect the image with Spongebob Squarepants. Deleted now. Stifle (talk) 13:42, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Very long

This talk page is becoming very long. Please consider archiving. Stifle (talk) 13:43, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Or just kill it with fire. Protonk (talk) 14:26, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

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		Man, you are way more patient than I; I think you may have been involved with a guy who got into an edit war with himself :) Keep up the good work ! Duke53 | 05:39, 9 February 2009 (UTC)