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| ==Farewell, and hope to see you back== | |||
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| Came around to ask if you might not mind popping on AE for a bit, but seems you're busy now. I'd be very happy to see you around again at some point. ] <small><sup>]</sup></small> 03:51, 26 July 2016 (UTC) | |||
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| I have made some more comments on the talk page of the Crews article. I think that you, and DGG, ought to respond to them. DGG made a mistake in saying that I had placed negative comments about someone sourced only to blogs; this was not the case. I have made some comments about this on my talk page. ] (]) 01:33, 1 June 2008 (UTC) | |||
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| I most certainly have not arrived here from Stormfront, good God. No, this is an account which is somewhere between 3 and 4 on the list of valid reasons for sock accounts -- and hence providing a clear link between the accounts would totally defeat the purpose of them. As it happens, my old account has not made an edit in quite some time, so this is the only account I am using at the moment. The reason for it is simply because my old account is very easily linkable to my IRL identity, and frankly this topic is so ridiculously over-politicised -- both ways -- that I would rather avoid problems before they start. I'm quite happy for someone trusted, like Thatcher, to run a checkuser on me to establish that I am not a sock of any other editors of these topics (evidently those sorts of voluntary checkusers are frowned upon, but the offer stands). | |||
| ::My reason for drawing attention to this at all is that this account is new, and yet would appear to be blessed with an uncanny understanding of Misplaced Pages process/policy, etc. for such a new one...I know enough about Misplaced Pages as well to understand that that would arouse suspicion, so I reckoned that a full disclosure right from the beginning would be a good policy; if I were a newly canvassed meat-puppet from some Nazi forum, as you suggest might be a possibility, then I would say it would be unlikely that I would be as familiar with Misplaced Pages as it should be obvious I am. --] (]) 00:10, 4 June 2008 (UTC) | |||
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| I mean no disrespect by what I said Plusdown and I do AGF towards you. In regard to RFCU thsi kind of check cannot be done. I also understand your wish for privacy and it is 100% legitimate (especially in regard to this topic). Again I understand why you would not link you accounts but such links or some kind of confidential verification is recommended for alternative accounts but not demanded--] <sup>]</sup> 00:20, 4 June 2008 (UTC) | |||
| : <code><nowiki>--] <sup>]</sup></nowiki></code> : --] <sup>]</sup> | |||
| :My old account is so outdated that a checkuser would come back as saying that only this account is active on my current IP anyway. It isn't even really a 'sockpuppet' account anyway, but since I did quite a bit of editing before, I felt it would be right to point out that I am not a 'newbie'. | |||
| :So the 'sinister' options here are | |||
| :# I am a sockpuppet of another current editor on these articles. If things get really nasty, a checkuser could easily clear that up, at least. OR | |||
| :# I am a meatpuppet with no prior contribution history here on Misplaced Pages -- perhaps, but unlikely given that we are having this conversation in these terms. | |||
| :I really don't care, actually. Unless I do something that gets me into serious trouble, there is no good reason why this should be problematic. On the contrary, I would have thought that being honest and straightforward about it on my userpage would be a good thing. Maybe I should have just left an ominous red link... --] (]) 00:34, 4 June 2008 (UTC) | |||
| Respectfully, ] (]) 20:19, 7 December 2017 (UTC) | |||
| Plusdown, I am merely pointing out what is on WP:SOCK. I'm not accusing you of anything. As I said I am AGFing in regard to you--] <sup>]</sup> 00:42, 4 June 2008 (UTC) | |||
| :No problem, then :P --] (]) <small>—Preceding ] was added at 01:04, 4 June 2008 (UTC)</small><!--Template:Undated--> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
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| Thanks for the heads up. BTW, how did you figure I liked lolcats?--] (]) 00:31, 4 June 2008 (UTC) | |||
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| :Ah the user-boxes give you away - also I love the things myself :)--] <sup>]</sup> 01:06, 4 June 2008 (UTC) | |||
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| ==RE the StormFront sockpuppets/meatpuppets thing== | |||
| |style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" | Hope you are doing well. ] (]) 02:43, 2 April 2019 (UTC) | |||
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| == ] June 2008 Newsletter == | |||
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| ==Adminship?== | |||
| Would you like to be nominated for adminship? You see to have avoided it somehow, but you've now been cornered. ] <sup>]</sup> 13:16, 11 June 2008 (UTC) | |||
| :I suppose it's not a big deal but I'd like to think about it for a day or two. Poke me on Friday if I haven't replied--] <sup>]</sup> 13:42, 11 June 2008 (UTC) | |||
| ::(keeping an eye on this discussion) :D ] (]) 14:45, 11 June 2008 (UTC) | |||
| ::::I don't believe Cailil would make a good administrator. Maybe in a few years. --] (]) 17:36, 12 June 2008 (UTC) <small>comment restored by ]</small> | |||
| :::The RfA process can be a bit... punishing, so make sure you have a few reserve canisters of emergency self-esteem handy before you start. Anyhow, I think you'd do good work, and I'd certainly support you if you decide that you're interested. ''']''' <sup>]</sup> 08:10, 13 June 2008 (UTC) | |||
| :::: Just as a heads-up, an RfA might not be wise when there's current controversy swirling around you. The recent actions by Jehochman and MastCell in regards Jagz are not as, how shall I say, "clean" as they might have been, and that would probably be an issue that would be brought up at an RfA. Which doesn't mean ''don't'' make a run, but I just wanted to make you aware that it might make things messy. --]]] 14:59, 13 June 2008 (UTC) | |||
| :::: You may also be interested in this ANI thread. --]]] 02:24, 14 June 2008 (UTC) | |||
| ::::::Thanks for your note Elonka - I've left a message on your talk page regarding this situation--] <sup>]</sup> 12:49, 14 June 2008 (UTC) | |||
| :::::I do not think there is any controversy swirling around you. While Elonka has been diverting the discussion, unhelpfully branding editors as "opponents", you have stayed calm and measured. I found this impressive. Good luck. ] (]) 06:46, 14 June 2008 (UTC) | |||
| Thanks to everyone for their replies - I am flattered that even this many people would be interested in me standing at an RfA. I would like to take Jehochman's offer up but I would also like to see how the community feels about Jagz's block. So I will decide about exactly what and when after the community has resolved the Jagz block/unblock. I welcome comments at my RfA by any one with substantial concerns about my editing and/or behaviour - including Jagz if unblocked. Thanks to all--] <sup>]</sup> 12:49, 14 June 2008 (UTC) | |||
| :In light of the Jagz block, I may not be the most strategic person to nominate you, but I would do it at the drop of a hat. And frankly, I'd be ashamed of the community if anyone challenged your judgement in the Jagz case, I suspect it is a small number of patisans and you just need to be prepared to provide a clear and straightforward account of your actions. Anyway, I would nominate you at the drop of a hat. If you want me to just say so; if you want someone else to, fine, but honestly, it is about time. ] | ] 16:11, 14 June 2008 (UTC) | |||
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| :: Slrubenstein, so if I challenge Cailil's judgment, that makes me a partisan in your eyes? --]]] 16:17, 14 June 2008 (UTC) | |||
| :::Are you challenging my judgment Elonka or are you questioning the length of Jagz block? AFAIK these are unrelated, since as you have said yourself I am not responsible for his block. If you have a concern ''about my judgment'' please express it to me and I would be very happy to take it on board--] <sup>]</sup> 16:47, 14 June 2008 (UTC) | |||
| ::::Are you? I did not read your comment above to be saying you question his judgement. Is that what you intended to say? ] | ] 16:49, 14 June 2008 (UTC) | |||
| I see that Cailil has agreed, and requested that we wait for the Jagz thread to run its course before posting the nomination. Whoever would like to co-nominate can contact me. ] <sup>]</sup> 01:28, 15 June 2008 (UTC) | |||
| ⚫ | :Thanks for the barnstar and the good wishes. I'm doing fine - only reason I'm not here is because IRL my job gives me zero free time----] <sup>]</sup> 20:23, 23 May 2020 (UTC) | ||
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| Hi, some more "constructive criticism" for you... I'd recommend that you re-examine your comments at the ANI thread about Jagz's block. As I see it, you seem to have a tendency to zero in on an editor that you think is doing something "wrong", and then you look for proof of that, while completely ignoring similar things that other editors are saying in the same venue. For example, you are claiming that my use of the words "enemies" or "opponents" is inappropriate, but if you'll look through that thread, you'll see that the terms "opponents" and "opposing editors" have been in common usage by many others, ''including the starting post by administrator MastCell''. So I recommend you ask yourself why you felt it was appropriate to ask me to refactor, but you're not asking the others the same thing? I see this as a similar problem to what you were doing with your subpages, where you were looking for proof of "trolling" and "complex vandalism", and providing diffs that often had nothing to do with either of those concepts. Further, when you were gathering evidence on Jagz, you appeared to be completely oblivious to the rampant incivility that was being generated by the other editors in the dispute, especially Slrubenstein. It is not really fair to chastise one person for being rude, when they are just responding to rudeness by another editor. Granted, ''neither'' one of them should have been rude (especially Slrubenstein, since he is an admin), but in such a case, if you were gathering evidence about Jagz, you really need to be gathering evidence of policy infractions from the other side too, otherwise you can give an appearance of being biased towards one side or the other. | |||
| ==MfD nomination of ]== | |||
| Please, if you want to be an admin (and I think that someday you could be an excellent one), work harder at looking at everything with impartiality. Don't focus on just one editor that you think is "the problem", but instead consider that things happen in context. Multiple editors may be involved, and it is not a good idea to warn one, while ignoring similar behavior by everyone else. You appear to have a good ability to do research, and I encourage that. I'm just asking you to work on broadening your scope, and to be more evenhanded about what you say. Remember, it is better to understate than to overstate. And when giving warnings, it can be better to be ambivalent about who you are referring to. For example, instead of entering a dispute and saying, "Merlin, stop being uncivil" (''even though you think that he is the prime instigator''), it can actually be more effective to say, "Okay everyone, please remember that ] is policy." Hope that makes sense, --]]] 15:10, 18 June 2008 (UTC) | |||
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Farewell, and hope to see you back
Came around to ask if you might not mind popping on AE for a bit, but seems you're busy now. I'd be very happy to see you around again at some point. Seraphimblade 03:51, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
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- Thanks for the barnstar and the good wishes. I'm doing fine - only reason I'm not here is because IRL my job gives me zero free time----Cailil 20:23, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
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