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==Presidents' nickname list== |
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Cumulus, why did you revert my addition of Chimpy to ]? It's a popular nickname, and the source I gave is perfectly legitimate and cited as-is. ] (]) 02:33, 10 August 2008 (UTC) |
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==Your edit to my talk page== |
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Hi there. Recently, you added a post to my talk page, in response to a comment by BQZip01, saying: "You know I'd really appreciate it if you would stop leaving messages like this on people's talk pages. Running around screaming about my unwillingness to compromise isn't going to help your case at all and, in fact, will probably only make you look worse." Personally, what ''I'd'' appreciate is you not bringing your dispute with BQZ to my talk page. That message was intended for him, not for me, and should have been left on his talk page, not mine. I recognise you have an ongoing problem with BQZ, but that doesn't mean you have to follow him around and make sure every post of his is followed by one of yours. For what it's worth, I opposed his RFA, but your comment actually made me consider supporting it. ] (]) 03:10, 13 August 2008 (UTC) |
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:*I'm sure if you reviewed more of the history you'd be less inclined to change your mind. ] (]) 15:38, 13 August 2008 (UTC) |
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== Dismissiveness == |
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It looks to me as if you took an article that I created, edited it down to a ] (removing the references), and then nominated it for deletion on this basis, all without seeking my input or notifying me of the AfD as recommended. Is that correct? If so, I suggest you seek input from other editors who have worked on an article, and seek consensus as is the wiki process, rather than just persuing your own agenda. ] (]) 16:10, 17 August 2008 (UTC) |
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:You should not consider this a personal attack. First, deletion of your user page history make it look like you were a new user being a little too bold. Second, my comments were intended to focus on your behavior, not your character, so they are not meant as a personal attack. I still suggest you try to seek input and engage other editors more. For example, you could try asking leading questions before stating your opinion. So, rather than threatening to seek sanctions for a personal attack, you could ask if comments you took personally were intended to be insulting. This will avoid unnecessarily insulting the other user thereby escallating the situation. ] (]) 12:45, 23 August 2008 (UTC) |
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== FYI on references == |
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First off, brilliant job on finding all the references for ]. However, I noticed a couple of suggestions with the formatting the references: |
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# When you are citing a news agency (newspaper, tv station, etc) please use {{tl|cite news}}. {{tl|Cite web}} should only be used for non-news sources. |
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# With newspapers and magazines, make sure you italicize their titles. If you use {{tl|cite news}} the easiest way to do that is to use the work field, otherwise just use two single quotes before and after the name of the newspaper/magazine, i.e. <nowiki>''The Seattle Times''</nowiki>. |
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# If you are using the cite web and cite news templates, you don't need to wikilink the date field if you use ISO formatting. Both templates automatically wikilink ISO dates. |
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Other than that, keep up the good work with hunting down those references. --] <sup>]</sup> 00:48, 22 August 2008 (UTC) |
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==Image:Dokdo from ullengdo2.jpg== |
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wait, this is a too complex to me. i don't know what is the otrs. and is it really necessary procedure? i found photographer kim chol hwan who work for Ulleung goverment's site.(he is a public officials of ullungdo goverment) here if i recieve permit from that site's notice board(he is a admin of ullungdo.com site, answer from ullungdo.com site's admin) or recieve e-mail from him.(recive e-mail from that site admin, or recive e-mail from his ullungdo goverment public official's e-mail) is it OK? and are you admin? ] (]) 00:07, 29 August 2008 (UTC) |
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:*I'm not an administrator, however, if you recieve an email from Mr. Hwan, forward that to permissions-en@wikimedia.org with a link to the image you have uploaded (most preferably the largest resolution you can find). The OTRS team will take care of the rest for you. If you would provide a translation of the email into english from Korean, that would also be very helpful. Thanks, ] (]) 00:41, 29 August 2008 (UTC) |
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:: i contacted with mr. hwan by phone call. Ok. thank you. next time, don't say "delete" to my image ] (]) 02:03, 29 August 2008 (UTC) |
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== FPaS RFC == |
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As a participant in the ] at WP:ANI, I thought you should be informed of the new RFC that another user has started regarding FPaS's behavior. |
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<font face="century gothic" color="#eeff00">''']''' </font><small>] ¤ ]</small> 17:39, 30 August 2008 (UTC) |
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== Question about ]... == |
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I apprecite the encouraging words, and since you have experience in these typs of cases, do you feel I was thorough enough and in my comment ? ''']''' '']'' 19:09, 5 September 2008 (UTC) |
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:*Yes. I believe your interpretation was absolutely correct. It would appear that ] is the perpatrator of a hoax or of a very minor organization that is trying to use Misplaced Pages as a vehicle for advertisement. They are one of the only substantive contributors to that article and there are 0 sources to back up their claims. Nice catch. ] (]) 21:35, 5 September 2008 (UTC) |
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== NFC issue == |
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Hi, since you were discussing the question recently, you might be interested in the discussion I opened ]. Thanks, -- ] ] 09:21, 10 September 2008 (UTC) |
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== Closure of ] at Deletion review == |
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After some to-and-fro I've listed my closure of this discussion at ], and as a participant in the IfD I invite your comments - ] ] 03:46, 15 September 2008 (UTC) |
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== Daily Mail not a source? == |
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I perfectly happy with your edit of ], but I am intrigued by your assertion that the Daily Mail is not a source. It is quoted elsewhere in the article. ] (]) 16:28, 15 September 2008 (UTC) |
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: Oh I have hardly edited the article at all, and am not in the least offended. It is ironic that I specifically made an effort to find a source that I never read myself, for fear of "favouring" a particular source. I hadn't realised the Mail's poor standard of reporting in this case. ] (]) 23:16, 15 September 2008 (UTC) |
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== Why ????? == |
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Dear Cumulus, |
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May i can know why you deleted some of my pictures ? |
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It fit with articles !! and you did that before asking me, which is very impolite ! |
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I look forward to hearing from you. |
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Gabriel. |
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--] (]) 22:26, 19 September 2008 (UTC) |
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Well, thank you for your answer, but i don't even know on which facts you based your idea. |
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Please : be factual and don't think that your opinion is the only truth ! |
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This is my photograph, and even if i know Misplaced Pages is a 💕 (which is dedicated to you as it is dedicated to me), the information about the photographer is a part of a media (the image i mean), so it is normal that it appears. |
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I you have a look at any media which is well builded, you will see that authors informations are always displayed. |
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I try to share my work to help this website in having more illustrations, and then being more "friendly" and understable for readers. |
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What you did on my work (i mean my contributions, and the hours i spent for this) is clearly unfair. |
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I earn no money for this, i am not engaged by any model agency, and i don't need[REDACTED] to get professional projects. |
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So, unless if you have clear and factual proof that i work on[REDACTED] for my promotion, your are invited to set back my work as soon as possible. |
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Many thanks. |
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Gabriel. |
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It is not. |
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Because you are quite brilliant, you can also see that i'm a new user and i thought i have the right to have a page on Misplaced Pages, but people here act like you, they deleted my page without giving reasons. |
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Then because i had no reasons i re-created it. |
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Hopefully, on the French Misplaced Pages, they explained me with i can not have a page yet. |
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So it's ok. |
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About my own page, i don't know what's the matter ! |
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The user page is dedicated to present my own profile, that's what administrators suggested to do for my own presentation, because i can't have a page on[REDACTED] yet. |
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And, again, i can see that you consider your own opinion about my past errors and my profile (which is a free area for me) as the truth. |
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So, give me proof or a factual reason that i made all this contributions into a commercial or promotional aim, or set back my work. |
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Thanks. |
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Gabriel. |
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--] (]) 23:00, 19 September 2008 (UTC) |
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--] (]) 22:45, 19 September 2008 (UTC) |
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I have to inform you that : |
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In your crisis of pretention to judge what is good or bad about my work for Misplaced Pages, you asked for a deletion of the Marilyn Agency page !! |
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This agency is on Misplaced Pages from a while ! You destroying the informations of this website, you have to be careful ! |
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Moreover, i set back my work, you don't gave me any good reason. |
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And please don't think i have all my time for this (as it is in fact free usefull contributions). |
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All the best. |
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Gabriel. |
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--] (]) 23:23, 19 September 2008 (UTC) |
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== Name in pictures == |
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Hi there, |
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I'm sysop on the french Misplaced Pages and I would like to talk about ]. We had the same problem with him. This contributor has been warned many times about his contributions, especially when he used to add obstinately his name on many articles. |
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By the way, I used to explain him but he seems to persist on english Misplaced Pages. As far as I'm concerned, I suggest you to revert such contributions, this is what we've done on the french Wikipédia. |
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Have a nice day, do not hesitate to contact me back. ] (]) 11:00, 21 September 2008 (UTC) (PS : would you please answer on my user talk page ], many thanks) |
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== News from the commies... == |
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You once said you'd be interested in ]. I've now got the international proletariat's very own confirmation that it's free, so I've undeleted it. :-) ] ] 19:08, 27 September 2008 (UTC) |
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== Halloween is back== |
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I'm contesting the wrongful deletion of my image as well as your groundless arguments. Please feel free to contribute to this ongoing issue of fair use. <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 02:19, 30 September 2008 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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== 3O on Rossi == |
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Did you read my third opinion on the ]? Specifically, I am concerned that you are deleting newspaper-sponsored blogs in violation of ]'s stated exception for them. I'm certainly not going to revert you, but I wanted to point out that I don't believe you have the policy support for your actions which I think you believe you have. ] (]) 18:46, 8 October 2008 (UTC) |
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== == |
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I respect your comment at this latest AfD about the SPA account . The nomination seems likely to come from someone who had dealt with this article in the past, as new users would not have the knowledge or experience to do an AfD nomination as their first (and only) act upon Misplaced Pages. I have also noticed that no one involved in the article or first AfD, you and I included, were notified by the nom of the second AfD, and this is even more suspicious, in light of the nom's apparent knowledge of how to do an AfD nomination. With your experience in ferreting out puppets, what is your opinion of this one... who may have been created for this one purpose and may never edit again? ''']''' '']'' 20:11, 14 October 2008 (UTC) |
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:It was your own keen eye and inciteful comment that caused the nom to go to , so as to not have only one edit. Then the nom made showing far greater knowledge of Wiki than one might expect from a newcomer. With your greater experience dealing with sockpuupets and meatpuppets, what would be the next step? ''']''' '']'' 02:55, 15 October 2008 (UTC) |
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::*I wouldn't say I have any greater experience than you do with sockpuppets. I'm just going to watch his contributions and check the histories for pages he edits. If his patterns match those of any past editors on any of those pages, that would be a start. Otherwise, we'll just have to wait and see. ] (]) 03:33, 15 October 2008 (UTC) |
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:::* Don't sell yourself short... when it comes to tracking down puppets, you are as tenacious as a pitbull. The puppet patches I helped uncover last and were simply because it was so blatant. I got lucky. ''']''' '']'' 21:05, 17 October 2008 (UTC) |
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== inre == |
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Inre: , I have chosen to not reply to ], as to not get in the middle of any disagreements between you and he. I will be archiving that section/comment shortly and I ask that this discussion not be carried out on my talk page. I will make the same request of him. ''']''' '']'' 00:28, 15 October 2008 (UTC) |
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== 2nd AfD nomination of Michael Q. Schmidt == |
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]An article that you have been involved in editing, ], has been listed for ]. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at ]. Thank you.''']''' '']'' 17:58, 15 October 2008 (UTC) <small>Do you want to ] of receiving this notice?</small><!-- Template:Adw --> |
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*And yes... I know you know already. I am just sending courtesy notifications out to anyone who edited the article. Best, ''']''' '']'' 17:58, 15 October 2008 (UTC) |
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So, not a directly linked sockpuppet. Checkuser would not be able to determine a meatpuppet or sockpuppet if the master were careful and did not use the puppets from the same IP or to do the same edits. Yes? No? Myself, I am still concerned about the reason for a newly created single purpose account, as a true newcomer would not or could not act in such a manner or have such depth of knowledge. ''']''' '']'' 01:29, 17 October 2008 (UTC) |
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== 3RR reports == |
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Please see ]. I am not sure that was necessarily a sound report. What is your relation, if any, to AB? ++]: ]/] 14:48, 16 October 2008 (UTC) |
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== Geoff Simpson == |
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I re-added the material you removed in ], which is fully sourced and legit under ], since it is a well-publicized allegation against a public figure. The article was only unstable due to the efforts of ], who has been blocked for that vandalism. --] (]) 22:29, 27 October 2008 (UTC) |
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: Are you kidding? I reverted BLP violations from a now-blocked vandal, and you accuse me of violating 3RR? It is time for consensus, my friend. |
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:Please see ], which governs allegations against well-known public figures. ''"If an allegation or incident is notable, relevant, and well-documented by reliable published sources, it belongs in the article."'' Therefore, this allegation should be included in the article. And, if the subject is exonerated, that fact should be included too. Now, I am unable to find a ] (I have searched google news) that attests to this. Can you find one so we can add it to the article? Cheers! --] (]) 22:56, 27 October 2008 (UTC) |
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== ] == |
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Wow. The craziest stuff gets articles. And what's funny is that this one might actually be sourcable, without having to go to blogs... "official" or not. And no... I am not interested in seeing this one stay. Good looking out. ''']''' '']'' 23:42, 31 October 2008 (UTC) |
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== NPA == |
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Hey, sorry to bring this up but I came across an you made which goes over the line for the ] policy. I'm sure you're aware of it but be careful because those types of slipups just make assuming good faith harder across the community. Thanks! --] (]) 23:35, 3 November 2008 (UTC) |
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== Talk page formatting == |
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Can you please have a read of ] and ]. You should use : (colon) to indent your posts, not * (bullet point). ] (]) 15:28, 4 November 2008 (UTC) |
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== Edit warring == |
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] You currently appear to be engaged in an ]{{#if:Geoff Simpson|  according to the reverts you have made on ]}}. Note that the ] prohibits making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the ]. If you continue, '''you may be ] from editing'''. Please do not repeatedly revert edits, but use the talk page to work towards wording and content that gains a ] among editors. If necessary, pursue ]. {{#if:|{{{2}}}|}}<!-- Template:uw-3rr --> ] (]) 17:33, 4 November 2008 (UTC) |
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== AGF please == |
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Oops, may I remind you to ]? I just saw your edit and I don't think that is really conclusive of anything. Anyway I know sometimes things get heated so just remember to assume good faith and refrain from any personal attacks! Good luck on future edits. --] (]) 18:52, 4 November 2008 (UTC) |
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==Blocked for edit warring== |
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You have been blocked for 24 hours for edit warring at ]. Consensus there ultimately favors adding this information in to the article. You, yourself, have no problem with the information being in there. BLP has no clauses about "we'll keep particular information out for certain periods of time." ] is not applicable here, as you stated it is on the 3RR board, because this actually did happen and it's not just a theory. Additionally, since you have been blocked in the past for edit warring, and declared an intention to continue reverting, there is no need to wait for you to revert again because you've already made it clear you will. As always, you may request an unblock using <nowiki>{{unblock|your reason}}</nowiki> ] (]) 19:07, 4 November 2008 (UTC) |
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