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| ==Current requests for protection== | |||
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| ===={{la|Alanna Shelast}}==== | |||
| '''Indefinite create protection''' Recreated article many times per ] discussion. --] <small>]</small> 12:05, 6 March 2009 (UTC) | |||
| ===={{la|Hamster}}==== | |||
| '''Indefinite semi-protection''' ''vandalism'', Relentless IP vandalism has been going on for ages. ] (]) 11:10, 6 March 2009 (UTC) | |||
| ===={{la|Bryan Alvarez}}==== | |||
| '''semi-protection''' ''high-visiblity template'', ip's keep adding his winning of a popularity contest on his site's forum to his championship and accomplishments. ] (]) 11:05, 6 March 2009 (UTC) | |||
| ===={{la|Mintsoft Librarian}}==== | |||
| '''Indefinite create-protection''', Repeated article creation. ] (]) 10:57, 6 March 2009 (UTC) | |||
| :{{RFPP|do}} I did that already this morning :). ] (]) 11:00, 6 March 2009 (UTC) | |||
| ===={{la|Satanism}}==== | |||
| '''Semi-protection''', repeated vandalism by IP users. I leave the expiration/permanency to the admin's discretion. --] (]) 10:49, 6 March 2009 (UTC) | |||
| :{{RFPP|NEA}} ] (]) 10:52, 6 March 2009 (UTC) | |||
| ===={{la|Dandeli}}==== | |||
| '''Temporary semi-protection''' ''vandalism'', Spam coming in from a dynamic IP. ] (]) 07:56, 6 March 2009 (UTC) | |||
| :{{RFPP|do}} by ]. ] (]) 10:51, 6 March 2009 (UTC) | |||
| ===={{lut|208.19.15.207}}==== | |||
| '''Temporary semi-protection''' ''user talk of blocked user'', IP vandal who vandalizes his/her talkpage. ] (]) 07:40, 6 March 2009 (UTC) | |||
| :{{RFPP|d}}, but changed IP block settings to no talk page edits. ] (]) 09:44, 6 March 2009 (UTC) | |||
| ===={{la|Chinua Achebe}}==== | |||
| '''Temporary semi-protection''' ''vandalism'', heavy IP vandalism recently. ] (]) 06:35, 6 March 2009 (UTC) | |||
| :{{RFPP|NEA}} Just one heavy spike of vandalism; seems to have died down. ] (]) 09:41, 6 March 2009 (UTC) | |||
| ===={{lut|99.21.141.16}}==== | |||
| '''Temporary semi-protection''' ''user talk of blocked user'', User keeps adding vandalism to his/her talk page. ] (]) 05:10, 6 March 2009 (UTC) | |||
| :changed IP block settings to no talk page edits. ] (]) 05:15, 6 March 2009 (UTC) | |||
| ===={{la|Dan Schlund}}==== | |||
| '''full protect''' This article was briefly protected, but the admin withdrew after facing controversy from the culprits. This article has survived two AfD discussions, but a couple of disgruntled editors who are not willing to accept the result of the discussion are waging war against this article by repeatedly blanking the article then redirecting the title to ]. The main culprit, ] has a history of uncivil behaviour and socketpupetry: .... I could go on. Please help. Protect the the page. Thanks. ] (]) 05:27, 6 March 2009 (UTC) | |||
| ===={{la|California Proposition 8 (2008)}}==== | |||
| '''Temporary semi-protection''' Vandalism and edit-warring from numerous IP's as legal challenges to the proposition are in the news. ] (]) 02:39, 6 March 2009 (UTC) | |||
| :{{RFPP|s|2 weeks}} ] (]) 09:45, 6 March 2009 (UTC) | |||
| ===={{lut|NJGW}}==== | |||
| '''Indefinite semi-protection''' ''vandalism'', Banned user keeps coming back as an IP every night. I'll ask for unprotection later. ] (]) 07:54, 25 February 2009 (UTC) | |||
| :{{AN3|p}} Semi. Request unprotection if the problem goes away. ] (]) 08:03, 25 February 2009 (UTC) | |||
| ==Current requests for unprotection== | |||
| {{Misplaced Pages:Requests for page protection/URheading}} | |||
| ===={{la|User:Gears of War}}==== | |||
| Returning to Misplaced Pages.org(RIP Jeff)]] '''2''' 05:06, 6 March 2009 (UTC) | |||
| :{{RFPP|u}} Welcome back. ] (]) 05:13, 6 March 2009 (UTC) | |||
| ===={{la|Robert Cornhole}}==== | |||
| Notable 17th Century Englishman who invented teeth, according to Stephen Colbert (March 5, 2009; 8:53pm PST). Consider allowing creation to support Colbert being correct about everything. | |||
| :{{RFPP|note}} please contact the protecting admin, {{admin|Ryulong}}, first. –] ] ] 05:06, 6 March 2009 (UTC) | |||
| ::{{RFPP|d}} Seriously, Juliancolton. The requester even cops the Colbert Defense! :) -<font color="32CD32">'']''</font> <font color="4682B4"><sup>(] ])</sup></font> 07:44, 6 March 2009 (UTC) | |||
| ==Current requests for edits to a protected page== | |||
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| ==Fulfilled/denied requests== | |||
| ===={{la|Waking The Cadaver}}==== | |||
| I see this page has been repeatedly deleted and now protected because of users recreating the page and putting useless, un-encyclopedic info in it. However, I would like to restart the article, as I have some actual relevant information on the band (when they formed, debut album, genre, lineup, etc.) For this reason I would like the page to be at least temporarily unprotected. What do you guys think?--] (]) 03:47, 6 March 2009 (UTC) | |||
| :{{RFPP|d}} You need to create the article in userspace first so it can be checked out. Make sure you include all the necessary sources to establish ] and make sure that the subject passes ]. ] (]) 05:06, 6 March 2009 (UTC) | |||
| ===={{la|Smoking}}==== | |||
| '''Indefinite semi-protection''' ''vandalism'', following the recent lift of semi-protection, a recurrence of ip-vandalism followed; this article is an endemic hot-spot of vandalism. ] (]) 03:33, 6 March 2009 (UTC) | |||
| :{{RFPP|nact}} –] ] ] 04:00, 6 March 2009 (UTC) | |||
| ===={{la|Keratoconus}}==== | |||
| '''Indefinite cascading semi-protection''', There is a longstanding content dispute which has lead to a lot of churn in one particular section of the article and much discussion on the talk page. As has happened a few times in the past, there is an IP-hopping editor making personal attacks and muddying any productive discussion. As well, there is a history of SPA accounts making what appear to be promotional edits (the second SSP case has just been started because of this). If indefinite protection is not possible, temporary protection of at least the talk page may help. Thanks. ] (]) 03:25, 6 March 2009 (UTC) | |||
| :{{RFPP|decline}} - Only one edit in the past few weeks, and if there is ongoing discussion at the talk page, page protection is not necessary. –] ] ] 04:01, 6 March 2009 (UTC) | |||
| ::You must be looking at a different article than I am. Please see the talk page for gems such as and take a closer look at the article's history. Thanks. ] (]) 04:13, 6 March 2009 (UTC) | |||
| ===={{la|M-online}}==== | |||
| '''Indefinite create-protection''', Repeatedly created and speedily deleted under A7 and G11 respectively twice, deleted 3 times in one day, might never be notable. ] 03:10, 6 March 2009 (UTC) | |||
| :{{RFPP|D}} - User warned. - ] (]) 03:18, 6 March 2009 (UTC) | |||
| ===={{la|Keith Olbermann}}==== | |||
| '''full protect'''. I think the history of the article says it all.;) Ann Coulter was nice enough to spread a bit of misinformation about Olbermann's education and there's been an invasion of established editors "correcting" which university he got his degree from. --] <sup>]</sup> 02:56, 6 March 2009 (UTC) | |||
| :{{RFPP|p|2 weeks}} - ] (]) 03:20, 6 March 2009 (UTC) | |||
| ===={{la|User talk:Rockyobody}}==== | |||
| '''Infinite full protection''' of ] and ]. I am retiring, and I would not want anyone to vandil my page. - ] (]) 02:47, 6 March 2009 (UTC) | |||
| :{{RFPP|done}}. Sorry to see that you've retired, and best of luck in real life. –] ] ] 02:53, 6 March 2009 (UTC) | |||
| ===={{la|Marquis Cooper}}==== | |||
| '''Temporary semi-protection''' Too much uncited material added to a ].--] (]) 02:15, 6 March 2009 (UTC) | |||
| :{{RFPP|s|1 week}} –] ] ] 02:56, 6 March 2009 (UTC) | |||
| ===={{la|Garrett A. Morgan}}==== | |||
| '''Temporary semi-protection''' ''vandalism'', Article has been repeatedly vandalized, with some attacks deliberately designed so that reversion introduces new errors; several sections lost and only recently restored. ] (]) 00:56, 6 March 2009 (UTC) | |||
| :{{RFPP|s|1 month}} –] ] ] 02:58, 6 March 2009 (UTC) | |||
| ===={{la|Stan Van Gundy}}==== | |||
| '''Temporary semi-protection''' ''vandalism'', Article has been subject to several IP users during ongoing issue between Van Gundy and Shaquille O'Neal, and will probably continue until the story goes away. ] (]) 00:21, 6 March 2009 (UTC) | |||
| :{{RFPP|ap}} –] ] ] 03:00, 6 March 2009 (UTC) | |||
| ===={{la|Sons of Liberty}}==== | |||
| '''Temporary semi-protection''' ''vandalism'', Just about all recent IP edits were vandalism. <span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS"> ] </span> <span style="font-family: Comic Sans MS">] </span> 23:49, 5 March 2009 (UTC) | |||
| :{{RFPP|S}} for a period of '''one day'''. ] <sup>]</sup> 00:30, 6 March 2009 (UTC) | |||
| ===={{lu|Rgoodermote/userpage}}==== | |||
| '''Indefinite semi-protection''' ''vandalism'', Request within my own userspace...again. <b><font style="font-family: Papyrus, sans-serif"><font color="#9900CC">]</font><font color="#CC00CC">]</font><font color="#FF99FF">]</font></font></b> 23:34, 5 March 2009 (UTC) | |||
| :{{RFPP|s}} - ] (]) 00:30, 6 March 2009 (UTC) | |||
| ===={{la|T.I. discography}}==== | |||
| '''Temporary semi-protection''', IP users constantly change and falsify sale figures and certifications. ]] 23:38, 5 March 2009 (UTC) | |||
| *{{RFPP|semi}} for two weeks. ] 23:53, 5 March 2009 (UTC) | |||
| == Current ] in protection level == | |||
| ===={{la|Murder of Tim McLean}}==== | |||
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| '''Temporary semi protection''' for perhaps a few days, surely not more than a week. Due to latebreaking events in the past few days, article has needed a lot of editing, but has also attracted a lot of vandals. Should calm down pretty soon. ] (]) 22:55, 5 March 2009 (UTC) | |||
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| :{{RFPP|semi|24 hours}} --] (]) 23:20, 5 March 2009 (UTC) | |||
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| == Current ] to a protected page == | |||
| ===={{la|Circus (Britney Spears album)}}==== | |||
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| '''Temp Semi Protection''' - Repeated addition of unsourced info by multiple IP's. Long term problem, see protection log. — ]] 21:59, 5 March 2009 (UTC) | |||
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| :{{RFPP|semi|36 hours}} --] (]) 22:40, 5 March 2009 (UTC) | |||
| == Handled requests == | |||
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| '''Semi-protect'''. Consistent vandalism by IPs and new users. Most edits to the page are vandalism. ] (]) 19:12, 5 March 2009 (UTC) | |||
| :{{RFPP|semi|36 hours}} --] (]) 22:42, 5 March 2009 (UTC) | |||
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Bigg Boss Kannada season 11
Temporary semi-protection: Persistent disruptive editing – Reality TV show with only the final episode to go, lots of IP edits pushing their preferred winner and just being disruptive. A week a peace would be helpful to the regular maintainers. Ravensfire (talk) 06:36, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
Little Princess (British TV series)
Reason: Persistent vandalism by anonymous IP addresses Dipper Dalmatian (talk) 08:47, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
- Automated comment: A request for protection/unprotection for one or more pages in this request was recently made, and was denied at some point within the last 8 days.—Talk to my owner:Online 13:52, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
Tajol Rosli Mohd Ghazali
Reason: High level of IP vandalism Normal rookie (talk) 11:20, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
Declined – Not enough recent disruptive activity to justify protection. Last disruptive edit was about 6 weeks ago. Lectonar (talk) 11:42, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
Cobra Kai season 6
Temporary semi-protection: Persistent vandalism – Persistent vandalism by numerous IP users. Areaseven (talk) 12:36, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
Jamal Musiala
Temporary semi-protection: Persistent Vandalism. 💽 🌙Eclipse 💽 🌹 ⚧ (she/they) 12:38, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
Public forum debate
Temporary semi-protection: Persistent Disruptive Editing. 💽 🌙Eclipse 💽 🌹 ⚧ (she/they) 12:44, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
Premier League
Indefinite semi-protection: Persistent vandalism – Still frequently vandalized despite many protections dating back to 2007, looks like it's time for a permanent solution. Entranced98 (talk) 14:34, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
Sunshine Central
Reason: Article has been subject to unsourced edits by several Malaysian (probably related) IPs, possible violation of WP:PROMO. hundenvonPG (talk) 15:04, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
- Declined – Warn the user appropriately then report them to AIV or ANI if they continue. Just one disruptive IP atm; the other disruptive edits were some time ago. Lectonar (talk) 15:14, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
Flag of China
Semi-protection: Persistent vandalism. Filmssssssssssss (talk) 15:57, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
The Lifetimes Tour
Temporary semi-protection: Persistent addition of unsourced or poorly sourced content – Immediate resume of behaviour (addition of unsourced content) following page's previous protection. livelikemusic (TALK!) 16:06, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
Sakhnin
Reason: The page has a WP:Editnotice that is commensurate with an Extended Confirmed protection. I am not necessarily seeking Extended Confirmed protection, just consistency. Please either remove the WP:Editnotice, or apply Extended Confirmed protection. --The Mountain of Eden (talk) 16:35, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
Harivansh Rai Bachchan
Temporary semi-protection: Persistent vandalism – IPs keep changing death date and removing source . Fylindfotberserk (talk) 16:49, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
Invicta Racing
Reason: The Misplaced Pages page for Invicta Racing talks about Virtuosi Racing's history, but Invicta Racing purchased the team from Virtuosi, that's why it is discussed in Misplaced Pages. Someone is continuing to flag the website and say that we are using their sources and it's not original. This is false, we are just talking about the history of the team. The users name is MSport1005. They have been doing this for a while now because we had edited the page originally and they continued to make changes. We need this resolved asap. AviLalo (talk) 17:05, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
Invicta Racing
Reason: Continued disruptive editing by a single editor. Someone has created a new page to discuss the Invicta Racing, their sponsorship and achievements since purchasing the Virtuosi Racing Team. The original content I tried to update on Virtuosi's page was consistently being removed by this user turning it into a content dispute. Someone has now made a page exclusively discussing Invicta and the same user has followed asking for it to be taken down showing there must be a significant conflict of interest on the users side to keep following this topic to shut it down. Psf3397 (talk) 17:09, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
Luke Newton
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/Luke_Newton Reason: High level of IP vandalism. AntoniaRoumeliotis23 (talk) 17:42, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
- You literally used People.com as a resource. Are you sure you're NOT the ip troll? DACartman (talk) 17:45, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
- This account needs to be locked FROM AntoniaRoumeliotis23 and fellow trolls MWikiEdits (talk) 17:49, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
- Are you talking about me? I just said that people.com is not a reliable source. DACartman (talk) 17:50, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
- See example of harassment above. I will not engage. AntoniaRoumeliotis23 (talk) 17:50, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
- I am not harrassing you, I am saying what you did and asked you a question. DACartman (talk) 17:51, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
- Plus, if you were/are Luke's girlfriend, then you have a conflict of interest. DACartman (talk) 17:53, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
- This. The user is either a troll or the real Antonia. Either way, neither one should be the authority to update the page. MWikiEdits (talk) 17:55, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
- This account needs to be locked FROM AntoniaRoumeliotis23 and fellow trolls MWikiEdits (talk) 17:49, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
- Automated comment: @AntoniaRoumeliotis23: This request cannot be parsed. Please ensure it follows formatting consistent with the current or previous methods of submission.—Talk to my owner:Online 17:53, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
- Edited for clarity. Please issue a protection of this page with authority given to the original author. Due to IP and user vandalism the page should be locked from open editing. AntoniaRoumeliotis23 (talk) 17:57, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
Luke Newton
- {{Luke Newton}}
Reason: High level of IP vandalism. Continuous troll activity.MWikiEdits (talk) 17:53, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
- Automated comment: @MWikiEdits: This request cannot be parsed. Please ensure it follows formatting consistent with the current or previous methods of submission.—Talk to my owner:Online 17:53, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
- Please issue protection to this page with no outside authority except for admins. Troll activity is increasing today. MWikiEdits (talk) 18:01, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
Luke Newton
- {{Luke Newton}}
Reason: User AntoniaRoumeliotis23 keeps logging in to update personal life section to reflect “she” is dating the subject of the page. User is a troll. Additionally, other anonymous trolls are making derogatory comments about main subject in both main section and personal life. Account should be protected to prevent continuous troll updates.
Game Changer (film)
Reason: High IP and new user accounts vandalism changing boxoffice figures. Please protect page. RangersRus (talk) 18:05, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
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ShortcutsWindows NT 3.51
Temporary semi-protection: Persistent vandalism. Cassiopeia talk 08:08, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
Already protected. Lectonar (talk) 13:40, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
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Israel–Hamas war
Currently, the lede states "On 7 October 2023, Hamas-led militant groups launched a surprise attack on Israel, taking 251 captive, against which Israelis responded applying the controversial Hannibal Directive, resulting in the death of 1,195 Israelis and foreign nationals, among which 815 civilians.". This implies that the majority of the casualties were caused by Israel applying the Hannibal Directive, and despite some cases of casualties due to this, no credible source has made the claim that the majority of casualties originate from it. I suggest changing the lede back to what it was before it was randomly edited to the current lede without any discussion on the talk page about it, to "On 7 October 2023, Hamas-led militant groups launched a surprise attack on Israel, killing 1,195 Israelis and foreign nationals and taking 251 captive." Aradkipod (talk) 12:29, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
Israel–Hamas war
In the section labeled "Initial Israeli counter-operation (October 2023)" it states the following: "A July 2024 Haaretz investigation revealed that the IDF ordered the Hannibal Directive to be used, killing many Israeli civilians and soldiers. An ABC News (Australia) investigation reported that at least 13 civilians were killed in a 'Hannibal' incident in Beeri."
These sentences are incorrect and not supported by the sourced references. First off, the word "many" in the first sentence is gratuitous, misleading, and, perhaps most importantly, not supported by the Haaretz article it references, which never concludes that any citizens were killed as a direct result of a so-called "Hannibal" directive. Nowhere in the article does it state that the Hannibal directive can be tied to *any* deaths, let alone "many" deaths. Any reference in the article to potential deaths caused by a Hannibal directive are stated as questions, or that investigations are forthcoming. (e.g., "Haaretz does not know whether or how many civilians and soldiers were hit due to these procedures, but the cumulative data indicates that many of the kidnapped people were at risk, exposed to Israeli gunfire, even if they were not the target.") Either way, it certainly does not conclude that "many" deaths were tied to the use of the "Hannibal directive" which is highly misleading.
Similarly, as to the second sentence, the ABC News (Australia) does not conclude that " at least 13 civilians were killed in a 'Hannibal' incident in Beeri". It discusses a tank shooting at a house in Kibbutz Berri , but never states that there is evidence that the IDF tank fire resulted in the death of 13 civilians -- as opposed to the 40 Hamas gunmen who were holding them captive and engaged in a "firefight" with the IDF at the time of the tank fire. The 40 Hamas gunmen could just as easily have killed them as opposed to tank fire. Indeed, an eyewitness stated "Mr Shifroni's aunt Ayala and her grand-niece Liel and grand-nephew Yanai were all killed at Pessi's house — he believes by terrorists", not by the IDF and ""There are a few others that we still don't know and we may never know what exactly killed them." Later on in the article, it states "The team determined that most of the hostages were likely murdered by the terrorists, and further inquiries and reviews of additional findings are necessary.".
I propose that the sentences be re-worded as follows: "A July 2024 Haaretz investigation revealed that the IDF ordered the Hannibal Directive to be used at three locations, putting the lives of some Israeli civilians being held by Hamas at those locations at risk.. An ABC News (Australia) investigation reported that after a prolonged firefight in Kibbutz Be'eri with around 40 Hamas gunmen who had been holding 15 hostages inside and outside, 13 of the hostages may have been killed by either the Hamas captors or IDF tank fire."
Apndrew (talk) 05:07, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
Israel–Hamas war
Since I cannot reply to my original request on this, I am starting a new request with a different source for the request and a revised sentence:
In the fourth paragraph of the entry, it states."A case accusing Israel of committing genocide is being reviewed by the International Court of Justice,...."
This should be changed to "Cases accusing both Israel and Hamas of committing genocide have been lodged with or are being reviewed by the International Court of Justice,..."
This change is supported by multiple references: https://www.timesofisrael.com/9-bereaved-israeli-families-bring-icc-war-crime-genocide-complaint-against-hamas/ "The families of nine Israeli victims of the October 7 Hamas massacre have lodged a complaint at the International Criminal Court (ICC) for suspected war crimes."
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The change is necessary for accuracy, balance, and neutral point of view.
Apndrew (talk) 06:16, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
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