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==Arbitrators active on this case==
{{ACA|Tang Dynasty=yes}}
{{#ifeq:|yes|
'''Active:'''
#Cool Hand Luke
#Coren
#FayssalF
#FloNight
#Jayvdb
#Newyorkbrad
#Rlevse
#Roger Davies
#Stephen Bain
#Vassyana
#Wizardman


'''Inactive:'''
== Tenmei's WP:TLDR winning again over the valid concerns on his incivility and harassment ==


'''Recused:'''
I do think so. Various editors addressed their concerns that Newyorkbrad's initial proposals at the Workshop are not enough, and too soft given Tenmei's repeated disruption, but the final decisions are even softer than the first one. ANI can not stop his incivility and he has harassed me to expose my name to ANI, and he wikistalked me and attacked all editors even arbitrators during the ArbCom case. As looking other ArbCom cases, such behaviors are immediately sanctioned as a temporary injunction (Macedonian, Obama, Date Delinking, and others). However, Tenmei who did the horrendous behaviors even can evade from ArbCom due to his TLDR argument that includes his various attacks. I'm very disappointed by the impractical decision.-] 20:49, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
#Carcharoth
#Casliber
#Kirill Lokshin
#Risker


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:I am of the opinion that the ArbCom case should also cover Tenmei's disruptive behaviours elsewhere, and I feel the appropriate sanctions should be placed above. In fact, I feel Tenmei should at least get a mentorship, if ArbCom feels an outright ban is inappropriate.] (]) 20:51, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
-->{{#ifeq:|yes|
::I wonder Arbitrators even read thought the whole evidence and workshop page where Tenmei excises various uncivil comments because of his too long argument. Tenmei even gave me personal attacks while NYB finished up writing the final proposals. But why the mentorship suggestion (thought he was informally mentored) is not considered. --] 21:20, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
'''Active:'''
#Casliber
#Cool Hand Luke
#Coren
#FloNight
#Jayvdb
#Kirill Lokshin
#Newyorkbrad
#Risker
#Rlevse
#Roger Davies
#Stephen Bain
#Vassyana
#Wizardman
#FayssalF


'''Inactive:'''
==Rejecting "Locus of dispute" as written==
#Carcharoth
This specific "proposed finding of fact" should be rejected as written.


'''Recused:'''
A new, better locus of dispute should be adduced.


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I write to encourage votes in opposition; and I hope those who have already voted re-visit this because the first and last sentences are fundamentally flawed.
-->{{#ifeq:|yes|
'''Active:'''
#Carcharoth
#Cool Hand Luke
#Jayvdb
#Kirill Lokshin
#Newyorkbrad
#Rlevse
#Roger Davies
#Stephen Bain
#Vassyana
#Wizardman


'''Inactive:'''
<u>NO to 1st sentence</u>. The case originated when ] rejected any and all inquiry relating to ], ] and ], alleging ] and ] instead. This persistent ''confrontational strategy'' is endorsed and encouraged by those voting in support ]'s locus of dispute. These votes effectively disregard , and, most importantly, Teeninvestor's restatment at . This obfuscation marginalizes even the attempt to pursue a ''strategy of collaborative editing''; and for this very practical reason, I could not disagree more with this sentence


'''Recused:'''
<u>NO to 3rd sentence</u>. In the specific context of this case, it is procedurally unsound to adopt the expanded scope proposed by ] and ]. One of the few areas of agreement acknowledged the initially limited focus of our case when it was opened. I could not disagree more with this sentence.
#Casliber
#Coren
#FayssalF
#FloNight
#Risker
}}<!---
--->{{#ifeq:|yes|
'''Active:'''
#Carcharoth
#Casliber
#Cool Hand Luke
#Coren
#FayssalF
#FloNight
#Jayvdb
#Kirill Lokshin
#Newyorkbrad
#Rlevse
#Roger Davies
#Stephen Bain
#Vassyana
#Wizardman


'''Inactive:'''
In support, I highlight a crucial or between "A" and "B" below:
#Risker
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-->{{#ifeq:yes|yes|
'''Active:'''
#Casliber
#Cool Hand Luke
#Coren
#FayssalF
#FloNight
#Jayvdb
#Kirill Lokshin
#Newyorkbrad
#Rlevse
#Roger Davies
#Stephen Bain
#Vassyana
#Wizardman


'''Inactive:'''
:*A. ]'s analysis and paraphrases ]'s measured language :
#Carcharoth
::"We appear to confront a small scale replica of what has occurred in other, wider disputes ... informed by a four-prong examination at each and every point of this escalating drama:
#Risker
::* 1. "What is the quality of the sources used by both sides in the dispute?
::* 2. "What is the consensus of scholars in the field; and does the source reflect that consensus?
::* 3. "Are the sources actually supporting the assertions for which they are cited?
::* 4. "Are unsourced assertions being used?
::"As others will know better than me, these four points are, unsurprisingly, at the center of most protracted disputes <s>and are all violations of our core content policies</s>, e.g., ], ] and ]."


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::*B. ]'s rejection is entire and :
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:::'''"This guy is out of control, man."'''
'''Active:'''
#Carcharoth
#Casliber
#Cool Hand Luke
#FayssalF
#FloNight
#Jayvdb
#Kirill Lokshin
#Rlevse
#Roger Davies
#Sam Blacketer
#Stephen Bain
#Vassyana
#Wizardman


'''Inactive:'''
In this instance, ]'s paraphrase of ]'s moderating analysis was posted on the talk pages of all arguably interested participants at ]. The "out of control" accusatory phrasing was repeated in diffs on the talk pages of ] and ]. This suggests a deliberate strategy rather than a merely transient outburst.
#Coren


'''Recused:'''
In these pivotal diffs, ] cannot ''feign'' to have misunderstood my writing. These are plainly Coren's paraphrased words; and yet, this modest effort to frame ''collaborative editing'' issues was immediately converted into a contrived hostile encounter. This destructive pattern is reflected ''ad nauseam'' on the evidence and workshop pages. Despite the cumulative attacks, the edit history confirms my participation focused on issues, but this outcome tells me clearly that I was wrong to take the high road.
#Newyorkbrad
#Risker
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-->{{#ifeq:|yes|


'''Active''':
In voting to support this awkward ], ArbCom's judgment effectively affirms that the contributions of ] and ] were above reproach and I was not.
#Casliber
#Cool Hand Luke
#Coren
#FayssalF
#FloNight
#Jayvdb
#Kirill Lokshin
#Newyorkbrad
#Rlevse
#Roger Davies
#Stephen Bain
#Vassyana
#Wizardman


'''Inactive:'''
This alchemy is difficult to digest. ArbCom rewards what is bad and denigrates what is good. --] (]) 18:48, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
#Carcharoth
#Risker


'''Recused''':
===Workshop===
This attentive focus on the locus of dispute is also found in my workshop contributions. ]'s proposed findings of fact at were opposed. --] (]) 20:17, 30 May 2009 (UTC)


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== Another list and canvassing==
-->{{#ifeq:|yes|
'''Active''':
#Cool Hand Luke
#Coren
#FayssalF
#FloNight
#Jayvdb
#Kirill Lokshin
#Newyorkbrad
#Risker
#Rlevse
#Roger Davies
#Stephen Bain
#Vassyana
#Wizardman


'''Recused''':
Given Tenmei above rant to the very generous final remedies, I wonder why Tenmei listed the all Arbitrators and their email addresses onto his talk page. I do not want to assume that it is another ] (me, Nick-D, LordAmeth). However, his canvassing to arbitrators to strongly demand for revising the "Locus of dispute" that he does not like is beyond my understanding of his behaviors. -_-;; His topic-ban is just imposed to "one" article, and he does not edit Chinese/Mongolian related articles. Therefore, there would be very low chance for Tenmei to meet Teeninvestor. He would not get any disadvantage from the decision. However, why does he cause more troubles for himself doing this? As proposed, Mentorship would be better for him.--] 19:20, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
#Carcharoth
:If the posting is just for the canvassing, he may delete it after his mission is fulfilled.--] 19:26, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
#Casliber
::Tenmei's canvassing is disruptive and needs to stop. I hope this can show ArbCom the need for stronger measures.] (]) 19:30, 30 May 2009 (UTC)


'''Away or inactive''':
] My modest effort to frame ''collaborative editing'' issues was here converted into a contrived hostile encounter. This pattern is emblematic; and it destroys any hope for anything but confrontation to ensue. I don't understand how or why this is left out of ArbCom's decision-making process. I can at least ], but that doesn't really do much to suggest alternative which could have avoided this problem at the outset. --<s>] (]) 19:54, 30 May 2009</s> ] (]) 19:20, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
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:]--] 20:13, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
:<small>''To update this listing, and scroll down until you find the right list of arbitrators.''</small>

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Latest revision as of 00:59, 13 June 2009

Arbitrators active on this case

Active:

  1. Casliber
  2. Cool Hand Luke
  3. Coren
  4. FayssalF
  5. FloNight
  6. Jayvdb
  7. Kirill Lokshin
  8. Newyorkbrad
  9. Rlevse
  10. Roger Davies
  11. Stephen Bain
  12. Vassyana
  13. Wizardman

Inactive:

  1. Carcharoth
  2. Risker
To update this listing, edit this template and scroll down until you find the right list of arbitrators.
The talk page comments have been blanked at the request of the participants in the case. The content previously on this page should not be restored, but may be reviewed in the page history if necessary. FloNight♥♥♥ 00:59, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
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