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	== Username for SOC0317 ==
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	Piotr,
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	My name is Erika Moul, and I am a student in your SOC0317 class, and I am very confused by the Misplaced Pages assignments. I have made a username (Emm66) and have gone through the tutorial, but I do not understand how you will be tracking my activity. I hope that you can clear this up for me so that I am able to meet the Sept. 21st deadline for the Wiki assignment. Also, my group members are Angela Han and Mariah J(?).

	Further, when I posted my blog commentary this morning, I noticed that my comment to another student's entry from last week does not appear on the blog. Do you have record of my making a second posting last week? (I had posted it on Saturday afternoon.) If there was a computer error and you did not receive the post, is there any way that I can make it up? If not, how will this affect my grade? Since the blog comments are 50% of our grade, I am very concerned about this matter. Thank you for your understanding - please advise.

	Thank you for your time and attention.
	Sincerely,
	Erika Moul
	username: Emm66 \| email: emm66@pitt.edu

	== global society ==

	i have created my account and posted a diff of an article.
	my account is d.j.weingart



	http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Craigellachie,_Moray&diff=315199599&oldid=306286192



	-Dan W

	== Assignment Completed ==

	I have created an account, joined group 6, completed the tutorial and edited a page. The page I edited is

	Justin Lovett ] 22:13 20 September 2009 (UTC)

	== Diff ==

	I tried to post my diff earlier but I think I did it wrong, so here you go:
	]

	Justin Lovett ] 23:04 20 September 2009 (UTC)

	== New Account ==

	I managed to make a new account. Username: mariahjenae

	~Mariah Blake~


	== Patrick Atkins ==

	My username is PatrickJatkins and my real name is Patrick Atkins. I am in Group 10.

	== My user name ==

	Hi Piotor,

	My name is Teresa Green and my user name is T.starr.green. Also, I had a family emergency last Friday (that is why i wasn't in class) is it OK if I still do my comment on someones post? I did the summary, but because of the family emergency I did not have the opportunity to do it

	-Teresa

	== Edit ==

	Piotr,

	Additionally, I made an edit to the ] page ].

	-Erika Moul

	Piotr,

	I made an edit to the ] page. And several in the sandbox, see ]

	] (]) 18:20, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

	== account, edit, group ==

	Hi,
	I set up my account (username: mariahjenae)and have completed the sandbox edits through the tutorial. I edited an article about Mercersburg, Pennsylvania by including the opening day of the ski season(Thanksgiving) to the information about the Whitetail Ski Resort. I have also joined group 7 with Erika, Angela, Amber, and Dominique.

	Thanks,
	Mariah Blake

	== Misplaced Pages Assignments ==

	Hi this is Sean McNamara I have completed the tutorial, joined the group, and made an edit (University of Pittsburgh page, added comments regarding residence halls)

	== missing information ==

	I'm Jessica McCracken....my wiki username is Jam187....i thought i already gave the info to you but i might not have

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	== Group 2 Article & Plan ==

	Hello!

	As we asked you in class - we would like to do ]. I made an article for it since there was none on Misplaced Pages - I am not sure if it will still be there because some speedy removal alert came up and I am unsure of how to address it, I added some headings to it.

	Here is our preliminary plan for completing the article. As we complete the preliminary research we will further refine the outline and plan of action.

	Overall/General Information
	:Definition
	:What makes a culture/group deviant

	Examples
	:Past prime examples
	:Current prime examples
	:Prime examples of movements

	Effect of Globalization
	:Discussion of what made prime examples prime and not present
	:Increase in tolerance
	:Strengthening of Groups
	::Networking
	::Strength in numbers
	::Global movements

	We have divided preliminary research in the following way:

	John - Overall definition and ways to categorize.

	Kate - past examples of deviant subcultures and social movements.

	Ragini - Present examples of deviant subcultures and movements.

	Jessica - Present examples of deviant subcultures and movements.

	Melissa - tolerance and networking.

	Everybody will look for information and examples dealing with globalization.

	Please let us know if this article and plan are acceptable!

	Thank you ] (]) 04:12, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

	::Piotrus, the article almost got deleted because there was essentially no content beyond the definition. (I declined it, & added an underconstruction tag.) It would probably be of some help to try to have at least an initial paragraph and a general reference at the start. ''']''' (]) 05:34, 3 October 2009 (UTC)


	Hi, we actually found an article "counterculture" which was essentially our topic.

	We would like to switch to:

	Topic: First World
	http://en.wikipedia.org/First_world

	1. Overall Information
	a. Definition of a first world country
	i. GDP, GNP, prosperity – other number based quantities
	2. Three World Model
	a. Origins
	b. Changes
	c. Relationship b/n the First World and the 2nd and 3rd floors
	3. First World pre 1914
	4. First World post 1914
	5. Recent ( based on research – what do experts consider recent) changes in countries belonging to First World
	a. Globalization
	i. Pros- examples
	1. Free trade
	ii. Cons - examples
	1. Specialization can lead to people losing jobs
	b. Ascension and descent of certain countries in and out
	i. General information – why membership changes
	ii. Examples
	1. Reasons particular to the country (as opposed to the general reasons listed above)

	Division of Work among Group Members:
	Melissa – Overall Information, recent examples of countries entering or leaving first world
	Ragini – three world model
	Jessica F – first world pre 1914
	Kate – first world post 1914
	John Adams – globalization in connection with First World

	] (]) 18:51, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

	== Group 4 Plan, Pax Mongolica ==

	Here is group four's flexible plan:
	We are expanding a stub on ]. The outline for the article is: 1. Introduction to the subject and academic term; 2. Rise and early years of the Pax Mongolica; 3. General Pax Mongolica period (what was covered in Before European Hegemony basically); 4. Latter years and "decline" of Pax Mongolica
	One person will work on part 1 and this same person will work on part 2; Two persons will work on part 2; Two persons will work on part 3 because it will be the bulk of the article; One person will work on part 4.
	As of now our plan is to have Stefan work on parts 1&2, Sean will work on part 2, Carly and Lauren will work on part 3, and Jessica will work on part 4.
	We have picked out several books to help us with our research and will use these appropriately.
	] (]) 04:38, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

	== Group 10 Game Plan ==

	The group will be covering ].

	::Eric: Definition of the Semi-periphery
	::Pat: Semi-periphery countries in the 13th century
	::Dan: Semi-periphery countries from the 13th to today
	::John: Semi-periphery countries Today
	::Chazz: Transitional Effects on Exising Systems

	] (]) 05:42, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

	== Extra points for Wiki ==

	Hello,

	I should have 2 extra points for the wikipedia:

	(1) Showing my edit to the class
	(2) Posting a diff of my edit to your talk page

	Thanks
	Ragini

	] (]) 14:59, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

	== Sophia of Poland ==

	Thank you, Piotrus. I've had two articles on the Did you know page before. I don't know how to nominate an article and I thought the creator of the article couldn't nominate it. Thank You--] (]) 15:23, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

	== Group 6 ==

	Hello, our group will be covering the topic of proto globalization.
	(]) 04:32, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

	== Re:GA assignment ==

	] was recently redirected to ], and ] has a PROD tag. Group 7 might also pick a more concise title (like "Gender in Chinese globalization" or something similar). Other than that, things are looking good. Should be an interesting term. Cheers, ] (]) 21:46, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
	:It has the potential to work as an encyclopedic article, but if it isn't well-done it definitely won't work. Depending on how able you think they are, you can either let them try it or suggest another topic. It's tricky, but it might turn out fine. The problem here is that the chance that it won't work - especially given their inexperience - is higher than the chance that it will. Short answer is, it's your call - let them try, or don't. ] (]) 22:26, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
	::That would work (I'd suggest calling it "Chinese globalization" or "Globalization in China"), but you're right - it would be very broad, and as a result unlikely to achieve GA without an incredible amount of work. It's a question of balance - the gender topic is narrower, but this one is easier to find good encyclopedic information for. 23:51, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

	== Group 1 : Polyethnicity plan / mini-outline ==

	We first decided to create headlines we would like to fill in, so we came up with:

	=== Defining Poly ethnicity ===
	basic concept
	=== Conceptual History ===
	the history of the concept, its origins, etc
	=== Polyethnicity throughout History ===
	a lot of what we have read in the book thus far, as well as other significant examples
	=== Poly ethnicity and Ethnic Identity ===
	this will highlight how widespread polyethnicity is, but how cultures are able to retain ethnic identity. This could ultimate feed into the idea of homogeneity
	=== The Assimilation of Ethnicities ===
	this will discuss how it is possible for some cultures to eventually assimilate, or combine. Specific examples will be given

	----

	To begin our research, we are all meeting at the Hillman Library and pulling many books that have polyethnic concepts in them. Once we get a solid amount of books, we are going to divide up all the reading between the group, note everything (including page numbers and whatnot), and then meet up to see what we have.

	The other thing we will have to do (hopefully you can direct us here) is rename the article on Misplaced Pages. Currently, it is found under ]. This could problematic, because "polyethnicity" does not actually seem to exist as a word.<ref>http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/polyethnicity</ref> <ref>http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/polyethnicity</ref> I am not really sure if we do anything about that. The word that does actually exist is polyethnic.<ref>http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/polyethnic</ref><ref>http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/polyethnic</ref>

	] (]) 01:30, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

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	== Extra Credit ==

	I made some edits to my old high school's wiki. I added a lot of references within the athletics section, as well added a new tidbit.

	]

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	My question about rynek glowny was that nobody in either Polish or English article included information about Walenty Badylak and I don't understand why. I basically grew up on rynek (ooo... the good old times!!!) and I remember learning about the tragedy early on, whenever it was possible. I could never walk by the well without knowing. But why nobody ever included the info in Krk history? --] (]) 12:35, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
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	:Addendum: I can see you're busy with your class etc, but if you have any interest, please take a look/help out/direct others to ] which is in fact the next on my list. Cheers ](]) 12:51, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
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	== Implicit vs explicit ==

	You still don't understand the difference. ''Explicitly'' there was a line that said south is Poland, north is Lithuania. We promise not to cross the line. ''Explicitly'' zero was said about Vilnius. Implicitly Vilnius was on the Lithuanian side. By drawing the line south of Vilnius Poland ''implicitly'' recognized Lithuanian claims to the city, as well as hundreds of other villages, towns, and cities. The same way as Vilnius was alloted to Lithuania, Suwalki was alloted to Poland. No one can deny that. Just look at any map. ] (]) 17:05, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
	:Zeligowski's letter explaining his mutiny to Polish command (quoted in full in Lescius work) references Suwalki Agreement and his disappointment and outrage that Poland pre-destined Vilnius to be left on the Lithuanian side for good (in reference of any further negotiations). ] (]) 00:27, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

			== Ten no Hate Made – Poland Hishi ==
	== Juliusz Słowacki ==

			hello! i read through your GA review of ''ten no hate made''. i don't mind assisting with some of the japanese, but i'm going in relatively blind, having only read ''versailles, claudine,'' and ''oniisama e...'' i'm a little pre-occupied right now, but if you can point me in the direction for what you need or give me some sources to work from, i'd be happy to help any way i can! ] (]) 13:19, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
	The present ] of ]'s birth (and the 160th anniversary of his death) might indeed make a good occasion to refurbish the article about him. ] (]) 19:27, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

			:@] Much appreciated. I don't know if there are any academic works mentioning this in Japanese, but I'd expect there should be at least some reviews or such? I'd be very curious if there was any commentary by Japanese reviewers on the choice of subject matter (Polish history), which is very rare in Japan, but I'll settle for just learning what the reviewers said (assuming any can be found). Versailles is pretty famous, so I'd think someone would notice that spin off... <sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">]\|]</sub> 13:48, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
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	Hi ~~Piotrus.~~ ~~Thanks~~ ~~for~~ ~~the~~ ~~template~~ ~~and~~ ~~the~~ ~~award.~~ I ~~tried~~ to do my ~~best~~ ~~and~~ ~~continued~~ to ~~improved~~ ~~and created article of the Piast dynasty members~~. ~~Thanks again and sorry for my bad english!!!~~ ] (]) 19:08, 11 ~~October~~ ~~2009~~ (UTC)		::no worries! a cursory google search returned mostly book shops, but i'll see if i can dig for anything more.--] (]) 15:03, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
			:::@] Based on my experience with Polish sources, a lot will be non-digitized (particularly considering the age of this). For Polish sources, I often stumble upon mentions of old reviews and such through google book snippets - then I ask a colleague in Poland to go the library and scan stuff for me. Not sure how that will work for Japanese language sources. <sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">]\|]</sub> 01:55, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
			::::ok understood, i'll do the same. i might be able to find something in the otaku district here too. i'll do my best!--] (]) 04:01, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
			:::::@] Thanks. I am curious to find what sources, if any exist. I'd assume there would be outlets in Japan that would publish reviews of manga; if not academic (ex. Polish equivalent would be '']'') then presumably in otaku manga magazines and fanzines, which I'd expect to be pretty popular in Japan. ] has many options, and there is also ], some of which could publish reviews. The big issues is how digitized they are, given that most editions were published in the 1990s. <sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">]\|]</sub> 06:47, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
			:::::@] A collegue send me a lists of potential reviews found by an AI, although (1) I am not sure if they are reliable and (2) they probably are not the old reviews, but some new ones?
			::::: https://ameblo.jp/aisharyoko/entry-12651478782.html
			::::: https://honkuimusi.hatenablog.com/entry/2022/09/22/080000
			::::: https://booklive.jp/product/index/title_id/215654/vol_no/001
			::::: https://renta.papy.co.jp/renta/sc/frm/item/39527/
			::::: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/13255241
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			::::: https://booklog.jp/item/1/4022607483 <sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">]\|]</sub> 01:44, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
			::::::@] thank you kindly! i'll look through these this week. i went to the otaku district here but couldn't find any old magazines carrying reviews, but did find cheap copies of the manga with some kind of accompanying text which may contain something useful.--] (]) 12:25, 19 January 2025 (UTC)

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Ten no Hate Made – Poland Hishi

hello! i read through your GA review of ten no hate made. i don't mind assisting with some of the japanese, but i'm going in relatively blind, having only read versailles, claudine, and oniisama e... i'm a little pre-occupied right now, but if you can point me in the direction for what you need or give me some sources to work from, i'd be happy to help any way i can! Plifal (talk) 13:19, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

@Plifal Much appreciated. I don't know if there are any academic works mentioning this in Japanese, but I'd expect there should be at least some reviews or such? I'd be very curious if there was any commentary by Japanese reviewers on the choice of subject matter (Polish history), which is very rare in Japan, but I'll settle for just learning what the reviewers said (assuming any can be found). Versailles is pretty famous, so I'd think someone would notice that spin off... _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 13:48, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

no worries! a cursory google search returned mostly book shops, but i'll see if i can dig for anything more.--Plifal (talk) 15:03, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

@Plifal Based on my experience with Polish sources, a lot will be non-digitized (particularly considering the age of this). For Polish sources, I often stumble upon mentions of old reviews and such through google book snippets - then I ask a colleague in Poland to go the library and scan stuff for me. Not sure how that will work for Japanese language sources. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 01:55, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

ok understood, i'll do the same. i might be able to find something in the otaku district here too. i'll do my best!--Plifal (talk) 04:01, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

@Plifal Thanks. I am curious to find what sources, if any exist. I'd assume there would be outlets in Japan that would publish reviews of manga; if not academic (ex. Polish equivalent would be Nowe Książki) then presumably in otaku manga magazines and fanzines, which I'd expect to be pretty popular in Japan. Category:Literary magazines published in Japan has many options, and there is also Category:Manga magazines published in Japan, some of which could publish reviews. The big issues is how digitized they are, given that most editions were published in the 1990s. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 06:47, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

@Plifal A collegue send me a lists of potential reviews found by an AI, although (1) I am not sure if they are reliable and (2) they probably are not the old reviews, but some new ones?

https://ameblo.jp/aisharyoko/entry-12651478782.html

https://honkuimusi.hatenablog.com/entry/2022/09/22/080000

https://booklive.jp/product/index/title_id/215654/vol_no/001

https://renta.papy.co.jp/renta/sc/frm/item/39527/

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/13255241

http://blog.happyblossom.boo.jp

https://booklog.jp/item/1/4022607483 _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 01:44, 19 January 2025 (UTC)

@Piotrus thank you kindly! i'll look through these this week. i went to the otaku district here but couldn't find any old magazines carrying reviews, but did find cheap copies of the manga with some kind of accompanying text which may contain something useful.--Plifal (talk) 12:25, 19 January 2025 (UTC)

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