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	I don't archive this talk page any more. After acquiring well over 100 archive pages I sat down one day and asked why I was bothering. The vast majority of my edits have informative summaries, and in general my talk page edits have summaries containing significant quotes from the body of the comment, so if you want to know what I said on this page at some period in the past the best way to find it is by looking at . I just can't be bothered to continue churning out hundreds and hundreds of pages in user talk space to duplicate what is already in the database. --] 14:31, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

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	...indulge GR in his silly games. Just ignore his provocations -- most likely he hates that more than anything. The pattern is that he digs himself in deeper and deeper until he gets blocked; he wheedles an unblock out of a gullible admin by promising to do better; shapes up for a while; and gradually reverts to form. ] (]) 06:51, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
	: I'm trying to get everyone to assume good faith. Acting as if GoRight were just some troll (which I do not believe is true) would not be in keeping with this aim. Like most of us he has a mixture of good points to make and stuff that is best ignored. Ignoring the former because of the latter is not an option. --] 19:39, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
	:: Just saw this. Thank you. You have earned a few good faith "brownie points" here. --] (]) 00:37, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
	::: Isn't "good faith" grand? GoRight and TS have both been fine editors in my limited experience....although I think I'll definitely end up agree with one of them more then the other over time. ] (]) 03:32, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

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	I'll thank you to not collapse other people's discussions on the noticeboard, and . Have a nice day. --] (]) 23:02, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
	:That's BS, Tony. Stop collapsing other people's posts. I suggest you self-revert. ] (]) 23:30, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
	:: Feel free to uncollapse. I'm just trying to keep the discussion from becoming unproductive. Not provocative, but bold. Happy New Year. --] 00:18, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

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	: Okay. Sorry, it's been a long time. --] 04:46, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

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	All of a sudden I find article on probation tags everywhere. I didn't see such a big effort to inform editors that this debate was going on and in fact I missed it completely. When I looked at the debate it seemed to involve a very small "in-crowd" and a few hacks. This hardly seems to be a community consensus. Whilst I have never been blocked and will always respond to reason I now feel I am treading on egg shells, I can never be ]. I think this could potentially backfire big style. This is an area where the crackpots nearly outnumber the "experts". It is NOT ''Barak Obama'' and it is not ''the Balkans'' (where nearly every editor is a crazy POV pusher anyway ;-) ). ] (]) 06:35, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
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	::: If I thought that were true I would not edit science articles at all. The Committee does not want to drive scientifically literate editors from articles. There are some problems on the global warming articles relating to the number of people who read nonsense in a newspaper and wonder why it isn't in Misplaced Pages, and the number of banned editors who persistently hang around and make trouble. Once those problems are cleared up the only test to pass is to learn to cooperate in good faith with the remaining editors. --] 07:18, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

			Hello Tony Sidaway,
	::::"Show me that map of the near east again"... - or, as a tried to clarify on the ArbCom page, the problem is that (most of) one side in this dispute is not sanctionable, as they neither care about the fate of their accounts (hey, there are always more, and it's not as if they do much with them, anyways) or the quality of the article (see the blindness with which some established editors reinstate sock edits without minimal verification). AGF is not a suicide pact, and while I could understand someone like e.g. Ed Poor, I find it quite hard to extend it to several of the current bunch. --] (]) 08:08, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

			You are currently noted as a participant of the ]. With much of the activity in this task force about ten years ago, I think it's time for a revival. Global warming is getting a lot of attention in the media now and it's therefore important our articles are up-to-date, accurate and neutral.
	::::: I really don't see it that way at all. There are some good people who are very skeptical of global warming and I think they can be relied on, once they see how it works, to shape up and do the right thing. --] 23:36, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

			I've updated the task force page and the to do list and invite you to have a look at the page again, add something to the TO DO list or start collaborating by improving one of our many articles. If climate change has lost your interest, feel free to remove your name from the participants list.
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	Thanks for your adjudication of my noticeboard issue. I'm concerned that some of the incivility that previously existed will continue to arise if the issues here ], here ], here ] and here ] get no attention whatsoever. I've been moving off entries I'm interested in but in which the user in question is beginning to suddenly materialize in but anytime I move to a new entry he also shows up with the apparent single-interest purpose of debating the opposite side - regardless of what that side is - of any talk page comment I make or edit or I suggest, including liberal and demonstrably inconsistent deletes of my contributions. (please reference the Art Bell entry, specifically)

			== Re: Time I stopped being a curmudgeon about signs of appreciation's barnstar ==
	If it is best I terminate my participation in[REDACTED] for the benefit of the community I am willing, sadly, to do that. My only issue is that I don't think the status quo in the way the user is choosing to interact with me is exaclty a reasonable or judicial state-of-affairs with which to expect me to deal for an extended period of time in a WP:CIVIL way; trying to push someone's buttons hard and long enough will eventually produce a non-WP:CIVIL response from even the most tempered individual. I'm at a loss at what to do since my attempts to disengage are seeming without fruition as any new entry to which I move the same thing occurs. Would appreciate any counsel or guidance you can provide. (And if it's I should leave, I will accept that in the spirit it's given, too.)

			You did THAT to the ''']''' article—in ''2015''?!?!!! That is one ''well deserved'' barnstar, lemme tell you! The nostalgia! My best friend and I were following ''], ], ]'' and other then-'']'' fare of the time, several days a week, so we saw that blow up real-time! Dude, I mean...'''''dude'''''. Dang.
	I absolutely welcome any issues an admin has with me raising them with me. As it is, however, the treatment I'm getting from this contributor is becoming increasingly aggressive. I want to assume AGF but the pattern here is of pushing buttons in an attempt to get me to "trip up." This may disrupt the[REDACTED] experience for other contributors.

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	Kind thanks - ] (]) 11:28, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

			Thank you for all your hard work, there and elsewhere! Thank you very much! —] (]) 10:33, 19 June 2019 (UTC)

			Thanks. I worked hard on several controversial articles for a long time, and I think my work was appreciated. ] is one, ] is another, and there were many others. ] 22:23, 26 June 2019 (UTC)
	: The best advice I can give you is to read the behavioral guideline "]". I think your interactions all show a tendency towards parodying the stance of other editors. Anywhere else, this kind of juvenile behavior may be tolerated, but on Misplaced Pages it is recognised as particularly destructive of the atmosphere of trust we must have in order to produce our best work.

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	: So, drop the posturing, stop making a song and dance about people writing on your talk page, and try to recognise that you are interacting with human beings who have feelings and who will not react well to somebody they suspect of behaving dishonestly and engaging in parody. --] 12:01, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

			Hi, FYI the climate change task force is now a stand-alone project (]). You were once listed as active at the task force but from your contribs it appears you are in (semi?) wiki retirement. I've therefore taken liberty to move your name to the inactive list, but feel free to rejoin us any time! ] (]) 20:40, 30 July 2019 (UTC)
	::Thank you for your reply. The edit in question was a good faith edit. Given the almost complete absence of participation in the Fars entry it would be difficult to suggest I was trying to make a WP:POINT in a dead entry. When another user reverted that edit I accepted the undo and let it lay.

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	::And I have feelings, too. How can you reconcile these discussions as they way to treat a human being?

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	::1- Talk:BBC#Clarified_the_BBC.27s_Status_as_Britain.27s_Semi-Official_State_Broadcaster 2- Talk:Art_Bell#Obama_vote 3- Talk:Václav_Klaus&action=edit&section=10 4 -User_talk:Nothughthomas

			Thanks for the good wishes. I'm largely disengaging from all social forums, as indicated . There's still time for me to reconnect with my solipsistic side, I hope. Only by shutting out ] can I have any peace, which for some reason seems to involve lots of microcontroller stuff and obscure programming languages. --] 13:38, 23 August 2019 (UTC)
	::How is it acceptable to have one user essentially enjoy "carte blanche" to follow me from entry to entry with the sole purpose of challenging any position I take - regardless of what it is? Do you know what a complete piece of shit this makes me feel like? I'm sorry for using a 4-letter word but I don't think anyone really appreciates how destructive this is when another user is let "off the chain" to "go after" someone. If there's demonstrable cause to ban me then do it. Please don't just let another user terrorize me until I quit as a "backdoor ban."
			:If I could find it, I'd send you lyrics to a song where the singer, in first person, places a cell call to someone else, asking if the other party received his email. The conversation goes live into the mens room when the singer walks in on an occupied stall. He wants to talk about techno weenie who piled it all up on a sheet of plywood, doused it with crisco, set it afire, and disappeared into the Rockies leaving only an address at the corner store. But the ironic refrain claims the speaker isn't a victim of the techno world "oops, didn't know the stall was occ-uuuuu-piiiiied....." Good for you, and if you can stand a bit of zombi speak, I have ] (]) 14:28, 23 August 2019 (UTC)
			:: I've returned to the coastline between the rivers Tyne and Wear, which I choose to call Mesopotamia for obvious reasons. Nature is very much evident here, where I grew up. I get out onto the coastal walks whenever I can. --] 19:05, 24 August 2019 (UTC)
			::: Awesome! I just returned from a forest school outting (classic version) with multiple families. The kiddos turned up many species of mushrooms, saprophytic vascular plants, a tree frog, multiple salamanders, various aquatic creepie crawlies which in our area indicate a stream has high water quality. This made me quite happy since not that long ago that stream had problems. Enjoy your anti digital reawakening! I haven't managed to pull the plug yet, obviously. ] (]) 20:18, 24 August 2019 (UTC)
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	Tony, what do you mean by ? GoRight has been warned not to make any more vexatious claims. He's not been banned from anything as far as I know. Or did I miss something? -- ] (]) 19:52, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
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	I note the swift obliteration of references on the Misplaced Pages page for the late Dr. Crichton's controversial novel, '']'' and wonder why such should have been undertaken. The from the ''Journal of Scientific Exploration'' is particularly pertinent in providing a perspective balancing the almost universal hostility of the ] hypothesis' supporters, whose hymns of hatred against Dr. Crichton have been unremitting since the publication of this novel. I can't say that I'm pleased to see the reference to the ''Slate'' review removed as well, inasmuch as readers are not well-served by being deprived of the opportunity to see what was said about the work in one of the most popular online sources of opinion at the time of its appearance in print. Moreover, given the environment in which Dr. Crichton offered his speech at the National Press Club in January 2005, the pertinence of that speech to ''State of Fear'' is undeniable, and censoring a '''reference''' to it from the page on this novel while retaining Al Gore's very indirect comment so prominently is pretty damned strange. ] (]) 20:24, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
	: I just tidied up the external links section, per the ] guideline. I deliberately listed the removed links on the talk page so that they could easily be redeployed in expanding the article. I strongly urge you to do so. --] 23:33, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

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	At the moment you appear to be tidying up a change which has no consensus? --] (]) 23:16, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

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	: Please address your complaint to the person who performed the problematic edit. If his edit was against consensus (which I find improbable, frankly) then he should be warned or directly sanctioned. My edits were simply formatting, grammar and spelling corrections. --] 23:27, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
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	::: As far as I can tell you're referring to by William M. Connolley. This is what he did:
	:::* Change section title to focus on the error
	:::* Remove redundant reference to use of non peer-reviewed sources.
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	::: Plus...well, er, that's it. That's the whole of his edit. The section in question in Connolley's revision still says AR4 contains an error and still says that non-peer reviewed sources were cited, against IPCC's rules.

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	::: Where's the problem? The probation doesn't stop editors making sensible edits without first asking for permission. --] 00:28, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

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	There is a fine distinction to be made between ''"editing without consensus"'' and ''"editing against consensus"''. WMC was editing without consensus. Agreed? --] (]) 01:28, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
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	:: Sorry for being too terse. I was responding to ''"If his edit was against consensus (which I find improbable, frankly) ..."'' for Mark's benefit (i.e. so that your comment was more understandable), not making a claim regarding the probation. --] (]) 01:51, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

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	Even though I thought I had a pretty good grasp of ], it might be that I'm misunderstanding how things have changed... which is a bit ironic as it was my brain child :-)
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	I guess I'm a bit confused because I thought that something like the following ] should be on ANI... am I missing something? - ] (formerly ]) <sup>]</sup> 08:08, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
	: I've got a rule that helps me to work out which one I want to post on. If there's already a huge drama unfolding there's no harm in posting to ]. If there's no drama and I don't want there to be any drama, I post on ]. In this case Fisherqueen had performed a block that I thought it might be helpful for an admin to review, so I first got her agreement and then posted on ] to quietly solicit assistance.

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	: This probably doesn't correspond to the normal way of things (my impression is that nearly everybody posts anything and everything on ]). It's certainly unlikely to be in keeping with your original conception (I seem to recall you conceived of it after you or somebody else got told off for posting the same message on lots of admins' user talk pages). But I think it makes a kind of sense.
			i love kittens!!111

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	: There was no immediate need for action but I wanted admins to look at Fisherqueen's block and make sure it was kosher--mainly for her benefit going forward in future. Had I posted it on ], that page being what it is, it would have been more likely to have attracted untoward attention, or even to have been seen as a big accusation against her for poor adminning--which I definitely don't believe to be the case. --] 08:28, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
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	I do not understand why you deleted my contribution. I prove everything I added by relevant links so that everybody van have a personnal opinion. I just try to explain why climate change still faces debate and skepticism
	: I couldn't make any sense of much of it (is your first language something other than English) but I would have tried to improve it but for one thing: it seems to be an opinion piece. I have also started a discussion thread on the matter so other opinions may be heard and we will make a decision (and please do participate in this, your opinion and contributions are welcome). --] 22:15, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

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	Might I prevail upon you to discuss wording and necessity before making significant edits to the FAQ, as ? The point is a good one that our articles need to reflect the reliability-weighted totality of sources, but prior discussion or notification (my apologies if this occurred and I missed it) might have staved off that little edit war. It would also have established the necessity or not to add yet another question to the FAQ, and the wording could have been hammered out at talk rather than through edit summaries. You might also consider the words of the wise and powerful ]: ''''. - ] <small>(])</small> 23:21, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
	: Yes, good thoughts. Q22 didn't appear out of nowhere, though; typically if the same arguments are recycled in different contexts I add an item to the FAQ, and this is what happened here. What edit war? --] 23:49, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
	:: By the way I see you refer to "discussion or notification". Of course I would have been very silly to just write a FAQ question without writing about it on the talk page. See on the article talk page at around 22:00 on 30 December. Note the context, too. I can probably dig out the earlier discussions for you, showing that this is a fairly regular event on the talk page of that article. --] 00:28, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
	::: Yep, I just missed it or forgot about it, as the point is one that comes up semi-regularly in my own editing of science articles and did not look likely to spur controversy. Sorry about that, and thank you for digging out that link for me - I have been trying to get our climate change articles back into a normal editing mentality, and it really helps when ''everything'' is discussed.
	::: ]. I am talking with TMLutas at my talkpage, as they seem to be interpreting A22 as indicating that minority viewpoints should be omitted from articles rather than that we should avoid recentism and weight for the relevant academic community to tell us how to weight particular results. - ] <small>(])</small> 07:53, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
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	I am always opened to see my text and my English improved. I have explained why I considered it was not an opinion. Dealing with communication matters, this paragraph can be argued. Fo this reason, I provide different external links supporting the added information. Besides, dealing with Robert Kandel example, an IPCC expert, I think such an example desserves a better dissemination than deletion: the list of references put in his book and the foreword by Pachauri give some sound scientific credit. Then, if you wany to tell me it is not 100% objective, yes, but even in science, you find many things that are not 100% obective nor accepted as such. At least it tries to be based on sound data and tries to answer the question: why is there still a debate and how to make it progress. Read the book.... <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 09:17, 5 January 2010 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
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	: I've commented on the talk page that I don't mind if it's put back and cleaned up. --] 09:19, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

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	: I really fucked up royally there. Again my sincere apologies. --] 00:56, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

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	Hi there Tony. You've just commented on the Psb777 enforcement request stating that ChrisO filed the enforcement - if you look at the top, you'll see that it was in fact Viriditas that filed the request. Hope that information helps. Regards, ] (]) 00:42, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
	: I screwed up badly there. I've apologised and willl make some liberal strike-outs. --] 00:53, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
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	I think that stretches it. His recent dumbassiness about global warming is an insignificant detail with no coverage (that I can find) beyond his blog. His notability comes from his writings on Open Source. --] (]) 01:21, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
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	: There has been a very recent content dispute about whether, and in what words, to include a blog-sourced description of his views on global warming. The way I see it, this is an example of a content war expanding far beyond its normal range. Because the climate change probation is behavioral in nature, and the dispute there is about climate change (broadly construed) I chose to add the probation. See also my comment on the talk. If you see it as a step too far please do remove it from the probation. --] 01:28, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
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	::: Yes, after I tagged the article I informed the four most recent editors of the article (excluding myself, of course). --] 08:13, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

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	Tony, I appreciate that you and several others are against inclusion of that claim on Pachauri, but really, this would not even be an argument on a skeptic page; it would be included without hesitation, and I've personally seen it. Now you've witnessed it on Plimer, where removal of anything is met with resistance, even Monbiot's claim that he won the debate! In reality, by the standard being applied on Pachauri, the entire Monbiot section should go as well as a large chunk of the rest of that section.

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	I am perfectly fine with keeping this material out of Pachauri's bio, but it has to be balanced in other articles. There are probably a dozen skeptic BLPs I've been involved in where this same general group of editors has edit-warred to include ''much more dubious'' material, and I've gone along with it as long as the source was good. Weight never came up, notability never came up, it was purely sourcing. Now, if we're going to harden the standard here, we ''must'' revisit all those other bios and clean up ''significant'' amounts of negative material. It starts with Plimer, where most of the criticism section needs to go, per weight and notability. Then there's the others. I can think of ] and ] right off the top of my head. Singer has had very borderline-weight claims on his involvement with smoking and global warming - those would have to go. I believe Gray has criticism from a former colleague sourced to a single paragraph in a profile, that would need to go too. There is probably close to ''hundreds'' of critical claims in at least a dozen BLPs that would be affected by a more strict application of weight, and there would be much wrangling and probably an arbcom case to resolve it.

	Now, contrast all that drama to simply including a short, impeccably sourced paragraph including a claim and a denial. Tell me, is suppressing reliably-sourced criticisms of AGW proponents worth going through and scrubbing dozens of skeptic BLPs? Really, keeping these reliably sourced items is the right thing to do here, and I much prefer that. But if it comes down to suppressing any mention of the Pachauri accusation, then we need to revisit all those skeptic bios. In that eventuality, I hope you would support that effort to bring proper weight into effect on the skeptics pages as you have here.

	] (]) 15:25, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

	: I'm fairly sensitive on BLP issues. If similar allegations were made about Plimer, Singer, Gray or anybody else, and he denied them, I'd remove them in the blink of an eye. --] 15:32, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
	::It's not BLP, it's weight. There is nothing BLP-sensitive about the Panchauri material, the argument is weight, and that argument has been absent in the skeptic pages. Perhaps this needs to be escalated, because we appear to be at an impasse. ] (]) 15:59, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

	== Global warning (sic) ==

	Thank you for your kind reminder that the GW article is under article probation. I wonder if you could let be know whether this probation applies equally to AGW believers and AGW sceptics. I notice that the greatest contributor to the section 'Climate history destroyed' after the archiving is yourself. I presume that it is my contribution to this section that prompted your message. ] (]) 13:08, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
	: It applies to all editors. As I've noticed you around editing on global warming matters I thought I'd notify you, as I've notified other editors who in my estimation might not know of the probation or might not be aware that it applies to a particular article they have edited. --] 13:17, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
	So it is just a global warning. ] (]) 16:13, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
	:Yep, TS has been doing a commendable job making sure that everyone is aware of the probation and logging it in ]. So TS - consider yourself commended. - ] <small>(])</small> 04:13, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
	I'm OK with you re-factoring my TalkPage, but if you're going to do that, I think I should insist you put a stop to the re-factoring that goes on at other TalkPages, much of which reflects really badly on the articles where it's going on. ] (]) 17:11, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
	: If you're referring to my changing the inflammatory and misleading name of a discussion section you added to ] today, I'm sorry I cannot comply. Don't throw around these accusations. If you have problems with the conduct of some editors, pursue ]. --] 17:15, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
	::I cannot take anything to dispute resolution without attempting to resolve it directly with a posting to an editors TalkPage. But I'd be very reluctant to start a fight, since you're the only vested editor I can see who has been attempting to help with the science. ] (]) 09:53, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

	== Pachauri ==

	Story does not seem to be as dead as you thought mate, plus the telegraph has another expose next week, given this continuing coverage do you still object to the inclusion of the new text? My theory on why it died down over the last week or so is A- it was christmas :) And B -most papers like to keep stuff like this for the sunday editions :)

	*Seems to be a separate COI story as well as mentioning the telegraph story,January 10, 2010.

	*another new story about the COI 01/10/10

	Let me know what you think mate ] (]) 15:11, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
	: It's as dead as I thought it was, but things may change. What's your source for the statement that "the telegraph has another expose next week"? --] 15:15, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
	::Don`t see how it`s dead with new stories being published. Source for next sundays expose is from the guys who did the last investigative piece. ] (]) 16:00, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
	::: You've found two sources in one week retreading the Telegraph story and adding some new allegations of their own which were denied by Pachauri. We're not seeing widespread coverage. This is (so far) a failed mudslinging campaign.

	::: And again, what's your source for the claim that the Telegraph aims to make new revelations? --] 16:07, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

	:::Mark, save it for the RFC. The current group of editors is at a stalemate, and there is no point in continuing debate here. ] (]) 16:15, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

	== re ] ==

	just as an FYI, I didn't add that paragraph - it was there for a good bit before FG decided to remove it without discussion. please don't use erroneous arguments.

	beyond that, the issue is of little importance. I'll discuss it on the talk page if anyone wants to approach the issue correctly, but since I suspect no one does, I'll simply handle the matter using ] in those few cases where I think the matter merits that kind of attention. --] 19:05, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

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	"Autoreviewer" is a misnomer. It should be "autoreviewed".

	It means that you, Tony, are trusted to know what you're doing when you create pages, to the extent that any pages you create are considered valid by default and do not get listed as "needs to be checked by a human". ] (]) 21:00, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

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	Tony: setting aside the general ] rule, I'm not sure why you left me that message - was that a generic notification of some sort or is that a response to some particular action I made? --] 16:52, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
	: I had to click on "DTTR" to find out that you meant "Don't template the regulars." The template itself explains that it is intended as "a routine friendly notice, not as a claim that there is any problem with your edits." And obviously I don't find any problems at all with your edits, which are more than welcome. I just go down article and talk page histories and template those editors who I'm not absolutely sure are aware of the community sanction, or who may not be aware that it applies to a particular article. --] 17:38, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

	::ah, ok. I get it now. thanks. --] 18:01, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

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	Just in case you hadn't noticed, NW has removed warnings from his talk page (as of course he is entitled to do) ] (]) 19:55, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

	== Per your request at LHvU's talkpage ==

	I have ]. I should note that I am just about to retire for the night, so you may wish to consider whether you want to take on the role of "snitch" and also see if you can get a voluntary stand down from the disputants. If you get an understanding that such sanctions are unnecessary then you may remove my warning without needing my permission, although I would be grateful of a notification. I would like to think that all parties will agree that my proposal is far too severe, and from that consensus a return to appropriate interaction may ensue - at least for the time being. Cheers, ] (]) 23:02, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
	: Ha, I'm a snitch. Do I get a userbox for that? I would have happily blocked them all for a couple of days. Their behavior, individually and severally, was disgraceful. --] 23:04, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
	::It does look, other than WMC's usual bellicose attitude, that matters have subsided somewhat with the 3RR block of NimbusWeb; I have checked and neither WMC or Arthur Rubin have edited the articles concerned since my intervention. Are you going to close down the Request for enforcement, or are you going to wait until NimbusWeb's block expires to see if this is just a lull? ] (]) 21:09, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
	::: I'll leave it up for a bit. Even leaving it open may have a salutary effect, sharpening the concentration of all involved. --] 21:13, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
	::: @LHVU: Bellicose? Not compared to you. And since you've checked, you'll have noticed that the disputed text is gone. Next time, try just applying the rules fairly instead of blundering ] (]) 21:16, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

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	So, you've made something like 70 edits since I replied, and yet nothing from you. Is the idea to ignore me and then block me under this probation thing when I get fed up with waiting and revert? --] ] 01:23 18 January 2010 (GMT)
	: ]. I've already pointed out that WikiLeaks was not involved in the theft or the dispersal of the documents (a Russian ftp server was used). Adding a reference to the hacking incident to ] would be foolish in the circumstances. --] 01:33, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

	::And I've already pointed out that it ''was'' involved in the 'dispersal of the documents'. --] ] 17:03 18 January 2010 (GMT)
	::: You've merely claimed that. The mechanism is well known and Wikileaks was ''not'' involved. --] 17:06, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

	::::Argue that on ]. --] ] 17:17 18 January 2010 (GMT)

	:: I've said all I need to say on the matter. --] 18:16, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

	== AN ==

	Yes, it's probably spam, but still we shouldn't revert the user without explaining to him what he is doing wrong. ''']]]''' 00:54, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
	: You're right. I should have kept my bit and blocked him without telling him what he's doing wrong. If by some happenstance a spammer doesn't get that he's the lowest kind of vermin on the internet, he'll soon find out. --] 00:59, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
	::Perhaps if someone had told him what they were doing wrong in plain English rather than using templates, we might actually turn them into a positive contributor. Or heck, even thrown them a {{tl\|welcome-vandal}} template. All they were asking was for a steering in the right direction. Plain reverting them isn't moving the situation forward. –<font face="verdana" color="black">]</font>] 01:05, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
	: You'll have to grant me my old-time internet right to cynicism. It's only natural indolence that stops me contacting this fellow's ISP and having his connection napalmed by their TOS droids. --] 01:18, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
	::Would you believe ] eventually became an article-writer and vandal fighter? Not everyone who spams is an unrepentant spammer, that's all I'm saying. –<font face="verdana" color="black">]</font>] 01:20, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

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Re: Time I stopped being a curmudgeon about signs of appreciation's barnstar

You did THAT to the Gamergate article—in 2015?!?!!! That is one well deserved barnstar, lemme tell you! The nostalgia! My best friend and I were following The Jimquisition, Unskippable, Zero Punctuation and other then-The Escapist fare of the time, several days a week, so we saw that blow up real-time! Dude, I mean...dude. Dang.

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Thank you for all your hard work, there and elsewhere! Thank you very much! —Geekdiva (talk) 10:33, 19 June 2019 (UTC)

Thanks. I worked hard on several controversial articles for a long time, and I think my work was appreciated. Global warming is one, Gamergate controversy is another, and there were many others. TS 22:23, 26 June 2019 (UTC)

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Hope you're doing well, whatever you're up to

Thanks for the good wishes. I'm largely disengaging from all social forums, as indicated here . There's still time for me to reconnect with my solipsistic side, I hope. Only by shutting out all you zombies can I have any peace, which for some reason seems to involve lots of microcontroller stuff and obscure programming languages. --TS 13:38, 23 August 2019 (UTC)

If I could find it, I'd send you lyrics to a song where the singer, in first person, places a cell call to someone else, asking if the other party received his email. The conversation goes live into the mens room when the singer walks in on an occupied stall. He wants to talk about techno weenie who piled it all up on a sheet of plywood, doused it with crisco, set it afire, and disappeared into the Rockies leaving only an address at the corner store. But the ironic refrain claims the speaker isn't a victim of the techno world "oops, didn't know the stall was occ-uuuuu-piiiiied....." Good for you, and if you can stand a bit of zombi speak, I have just what the doctor ordered NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 14:28, 23 August 2019 (UTC)

I've returned to the coastline between the rivers Tyne and Wear, which I choose to call Mesopotamia for obvious reasons. Nature is very much evident here, where I grew up. I get out onto the coastal walks whenever I can. --TS 19:05, 24 August 2019 (UTC)

Awesome! I just returned from a forest school outting (classic version) with multiple families. The kiddos turned up many species of mushrooms, saprophytic vascular plants, a tree frog, multiple salamanders, various aquatic creepie crawlies which in our area indicate a stream has high water quality. This made me quite happy since not that long ago that stream had problems. Enjoy your anti digital reawakening! I haven't managed to pull the plug yet, obviously. NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 20:18, 24 August 2019 (UTC)

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Username Eligible

My username is suitable for Misplaced Pages editing? User:WeTalkWiki 14:33, 13 December 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for asking. I see no problem with your username, though I'm hardly up to date with current practice on Misplaced Pages. If you find the username being challenged, and this makes it difficult to improve Misplaced Pages, I believe you can ask for it to be changed. I'm sure you realise that the purpose of the wiki is to produce a great encyclopedia, it isn't for experiments in what constitutes a valid identifier. --TS 22:43, 13 December 2019 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of List of locations in Pirates of the Caribbean

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Fails WP:LISTN. It's all WP:PLOT information aside from trivial filming location details. It is in no way a justified spin-out.

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Userboxes

Hey Tony. I made a user box using one of your quotes. User:Slightsmile/Userboxes/wikilawyering. Slight Smile 17:41, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Kronstadt mutinies

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Might be some potential for a legitimate article here, but in this case such a poor starting point that we might as well start from scratch.

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Speedy deletion nomination of Gradient Analytics

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A tag has been placed on Gradient Analytics requesting that it be speedily deleted from Misplaced Pages. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a company, corporation or organization that does not credibly indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please read more about what is generally accepted as notable.

Proposed deletion of File:Svedeesh Cheff.png

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A goat for you!

Hope you're doing well Tony.

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"Prince Charles" listed at Redirects for discussion

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MfD nomination of Talk:Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows - Part 1/Old cast list with references

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Proposed deletion of Joseph Long (actor)

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Has worked as an actor but not had the roles to meet WP:ENT / WP:GNG. Long-time unref BLP.

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Proposed deletion of Gradient Analytics

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Notability-- cannot find secondary sources discussing the company

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