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===={{la|Trojan horse}}====
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'''Semi-protect'''. High level of IP vandalism. <font face="Cambria">]<sup>] – ]</sup></font> 01:01, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
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===={{la|Russia}}====
'''Indefinite semi-protection''' ''vandalism'', Tons of vandalism by IPs. -''']''' (] • ]) 00:37, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
:{{RFPP|s|one month}} — ]] 01:30, 5 February 2010 (UTC)


== Current ] in protection level ==
===={{la|Ayaan Hirsi Ali}}====
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'''Temporary full protection''' ''vandalism'', editor boasting of being ] has introduced a link to ] on the ] article, thus implying that the subject of the BLP is Islamophobic. in order to avoid edit war, pls protect the page from such vandalism. ] (]) 00:00, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
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:{{RFPP|d}} – Reverts are being made only by you and the other user. This would merit blocks for both parties should either of you violate ] or continue in engaging in an ]. Please take the issue to the article's talk page. — ]] 01:22, 5 February 2010 (UTC)


== Current ] to a protected page ==
===={{la|Tide}}====
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'''Semi-protect'''. Constant vandalism target. Why, I really can't imagine. ] (]) 23:39, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
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:{{RFPP|s|1 week}} Seems heavier than usual over the last few days. ] (]) 23:59, 4 February 2010 (UTC)


== Handled requests ==
===={{la|Hong Kong}}====
''A historical archive of previous protection requests can be found at ].''
'''Semi-protect'''. Daily target of IP vandals. ] ] 23:34, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
:{{RFPP|s|2 weeks}} ''']''' (]) 23:36, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

===={{la|Ground zero}}====
'''Semi-protect'''. High level of IP vandalism. ] (]) 23:02, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
:{{RFPP|ap}} by another admin. ''']''' (]) 23:35, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

===={{lw|Please clarify}}====
'''semi-protect''' The vast majority of edits to this essay come from anonymous editors from geographically disperse IP addresses. There were 19 reverts of vandalism since 2009-10-01 alone. See the essay's history for the record. ] (]) 21:45, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
:{{RFPP|s|3 days}} ''']''' (]) 23:35, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

===={{la|30 Seconds to Mars discography}}====
;also {{la|Alternative Songs}}
'''semi-protect''' Target of ItHysteria (see ]). As soon as the accounts were blocked (all Italian editors), anonymous Italian IP addresses began restoring the changes. Wide range of IP addresses involved makes range-blocking difficult.Semi-protecting both articles seems appropriate.&mdash;](]) 21:31, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
:{{RFPP|s|2 weeks}} ''']''' (]) 23:34, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

===={{la|Mary (mother of Jesus)}}====
'''Semi-protect''' Page is undergoing slow-moving but continual attack from IPs and the odd new account. ]] 21:26, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
:{{RFPP|s|5 days}} ]''']''' 21:53, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

===={{la|Mobile phone}}====
'''Temporary semi-protection''' ''vandalism''. ] (]) 21:05, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
:{{RFPP|semi|1 year}} Due to the log of attempted past protections. ]''']''' 22:00, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

===={{la|MTV}}====
'''Temporary semi-protection''' ''vandalism''. ] (]) 20:51, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
:{{RFPP|s|three days}} — ] (]) 21:58, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

===={{la|Tha Carter IV}}====
'''Temporary semi-protection''', IP mischief is escalating (there have been a lot of it throughout page history), with unsourced claims and alteration of facts. ] (]) 20:51, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
:{{RFPP|s|three days}} — ]] 21:12, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

===={{la|Guantanamo Bay detention camp}}====
'''Semi-protection'''. There has been relatively frequent vandalism that has remained up for extended periods of time recently. This is also the subject of a political dispute, should have been protected a long time ago. --] (]) 20:35, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
:{{RFPP|nea}} Vandalism isn't that heavy, seems to be reverted relatively soon, and at least 2 recent IP edits were useful (although one was reverting another IP's vandalism). Will add to my watchlist to help out, FWIW. --] (]) 20:58, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

===={{la|Screamo}}====
'''Temporary semi-protection''', Not a major problem but there is a moderate amount of disruptive edits/vandalism about that could use a long-protection (to say maybe more than 3 days) to lessen the relentless watch of the article. ] 20:02, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
:{{rfpp|nea}} ]] 20:16, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

===={{la|Energy systems}}====
'''Semi-protection'''. This page is vandalised frequently as it is a subject often studied for high school assignments. Vandalsim is on-going and not related to any specific event. ] (]) 19:38, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
:{{rfpp|nea}} ]] 20:11, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

===={{lat|Climatic Research Unit hacking incident}}====
'''Temporary semi-protection''', I am requesting temporary semi-protection because of continued disruptive posting by an anonymous IP editor who is evading blocks. A range block has been discussed, but was seen to be problematic with hundreds of legitimate contributors in the range. ] (]) 19:19, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
:This continues to be an ''urgent'' matter, with the anonymous editor shifting to yet another IP. Please enact semi-protection as soon as possible. -- ] (]) 19:40, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
::{{RFPP|s}} for a week by {{user|2over0}} ~ <font color="#228b22">]</font> <sup>]</sup> 19:49, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

==Current requests for unprotection==
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===={{lw|Today's featured article/October 14, 2005}}====
Requesting '''unprotection''' This[REDACTED] space has never been vandalized, and I can't figure out why it was protected in the first place, or even who it was protected by (else I'd ask them). I came to it because it is hosting a non-free image (]) on this Misplaced Pages space page, in violation of ] #9. I can't remove it because the page is protected. --] (]) 20:20, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
:{{RFPP|u}} We (i.e. Raul654 ) used to protect the TFA pages that were transcluded on the Main Page to prevent vandalism. No one ever bothered to go back and unprotect, as there was generally no need to. It's now handled differently (cascading protection), so the similar pages from last year (e.g. ]) or so are not protected once they're off the Main Page. Because of this, I see no harm in unprotecting this page from 2005. --] (]) 20:43, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
:*Thank you! Yeah, I did look at October pages from 2009 just to see if common practice was to protect them, but didn't know it was common practice back then. Thanks again, --] (]) 20:48, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

===={{la|John Micheal McCarthy}}====
I would like to have this page unprotected. There were references of publications as asked for (not many but there were atleast two) after having been deleted several times and before being put on protection. I followed all of the guidelines and I believe that my page is being discriminated against just because it is not in a nice wiki format: the picture is not in a table etc... but these are things other people can add to my page. There was no reason to have it protected. This person is real, these references are from real publications; therefore I would like it unprotected so that people can add the missing criteria. If the page doesn't exist how are people supposed to work together to make it better? That is the point of[REDACTED] is it not? Or must we wait until someone who has somehow all of the information on this person and who miraculously just wants and knows how to put it all on[REDACTED] perfectly? the first time? never to be deleted? Do it?<br />
--] (]) 12:32, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
:{{rfpp|cr}} The version on your userpage (] presuming you know that's there) doesn't have any sources beyond facebook pages, and the most recent deleted version were links to myspace.
:Provide some sources (on my talk page if you're having problems with formatting). The issue isn't around proving he exists, it's about demonstrating he's ]. Have a read of the ] for the sort of sources that we need. In a case like this, it'll be reviews of his work in ], or substantial interviews. Has he won any notable awards?
:Just to clarify, the article wasn't deleted for formatting issues (I would hope that articles are ''never'' deleted for formatting), but because there's no indication that he's notable. Thanks. ]] 12:44, 4 February 2010 (UTC)


Thank you UK. But as I said if it were left up people could add things to it such as references to his publications which I could only find for free on myspace and facebook. And that was where I was going with the "if you build it they would come" theory. <br />
--] (]) 18:33, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
:There are certain required foundational steps for building such a page. I explained to you yesterday at ] what is needed here. Without meeting that threshold, an article on this individual cannot be hosted on Misplaced Pages. --] <sup>]</sup> 18:42, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

Ok I understand sorry for the trouble. You guys are doing a great job.--] (]) 21:55, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
===={{la|Platypus}}====

It has been protected since July 29 and there seems to be no reason for it to still be protected and there seems to be no expiration date for protection. --''''']''''' ] ] 00:58, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

==Current requests for edits to a protected page==
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==Fulfilled/denied requests==
===={{la|Hepatitis B}}====
'''Temporary semi-protection''' ''EL spam'' edit war currently in progress; multiple IPs re-adding a promotional external link against established editors; no response to warnings; request semi-protect for a short period to regain stability. --] (]) 18:20, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
:{{RFPP|s|three days}} ]]</span> 18:47, 4 February 2010 (UTC)


===={{la|James Stacy}}====
'''Temporary semi-protection''' ''vandalism'', The IPs and sockpuppets are back again. '''<font color="MediumSlateBlue" face="Tahoma">]</font><sup><font color="Black">]</font></sup>''' 17:45, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
:{{rfpp|s|2 weeks}} ]] 17:57, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

===={{la|PlayStation 2}}====
'''Temporary semi-protection''' ''vandalism'', Vandalism from ips. ] (]) 17:41, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
:{{rfpp|s|3 days}} ]] 17:49, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

===={{la|FarmVille}}====
'''Semi-protection'''. Persistent vandalism. <font face="Kristen ITC" color="Green">]</font>&nbsp;&nbsp;(]&nbsp;•&nbsp;]) &nbsp;&nbsp;''Changing the world one edit at a time!'' 17:21, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
:{{RFPP|s|1 month}} ] (]) 17:32, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

===={{la|Iron Man 2}}====
'''Temporary semi-protection''' - vandalism and edit wars. Increasing hype as movie is out in May --] (]) 17:09, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
:{{RFPP|d|Doesn't meet criteria 3 for semi-protection. The vandalism is infrequent and easily handled manually, seems pre-empative to protect now. Additionally, some of the IP edits are not vandalism.}} ] (]) 17:25, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

===={{la|Wii Sports}}====
'''Temporary semi-protection''' ''vandalism'', Should have been locked a while ago /=. ] (]) 17:00, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
:{{RFPP|fa}} ] ] ] 17:26, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

===={{la|Paul Dengelegi}}====
'''Temporary semi-protection''' ''vandalism'', One IP has already been blocked temporarily for blanking content from this page. However, s/he has simply logged under a different but related IP number. Rather than blocking more public accounts, I suggest simply semi-protecting for a limited time to prevent anonymous editing. The blanker is either Dengelegi himself or an associate. The article is currently at AfD and will likely be deleted anyway. . ] (]) 16:23, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
:{{RFPP|b}} I really prefer not to protect articles at AfD. However, there may be BLP issues here as well, and I will take a closer look. ] ] ] 17:34, 4 February 2010 (UTC)


===={{la|Temis}}====
'''Indefinite create-protection''', Repeatedly recreated spam article. ] (]) 15:53, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
:{{RFPP|t}} ] (]) 15:57, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

===={{la|The Kooks}}====
'''Long-term semi-protection.''' Has been protected twice in succession because of an IP hopper, who has returned after the last protection lapsed. ] (]) 15:29, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
:{{RFPP|s|1 month}} -- ] ]</sup> 15:42, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

===={{la|Southern United States}}====
'''Semi-protection'''. Persistent vandalism. <font face="Kristen ITC" color="Green">]</font>&nbsp;&nbsp;(]&nbsp;•&nbsp;]) &nbsp;&nbsp;''Changing the world one edit at a time!'' 15:00, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
:{{RFPP|b|Other vandalism not from that IP is minor/infrequent.}} ] (]) 15:16, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

===={{la|The Undertaker}}====
'''Semi-protection''' due to vandalism. The article's last semi-ptoection expired a few days ago, and it has been hit hard since then. The last ~60 or so edits have all been vandalism or reverts. ♥]♥]♥]♥ 14:31, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
:{{rfpp|s|6 months}} ]] 16:03, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

===={{la|Mephedrone}}====
'''Temporary semi-protection''' ''vandalism'', Long term vandalism from multiple IPs - adding spam, slang, OR etc. about this legal and popular recreational drug. ] (]) 14:29, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
:{{rfpp|nea}} ]] 16:12, 4 February 2010 (UTC)


===={{lut|Cococococo}}====
'''Indefinite semi-protection''' ''user talk of blocked user'', Abusive comments, not block appeals. ] (]) 15:04, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
:{{RFPP|tb}} ] (]) 15:09, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

===={{la|Avram Grant}}====
'''Unprotection''', at least I think it is semi protected. Issue has been revealed in the press, no longer any libel issues. ] (]) 13:27, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
:{{rfpp|n}} Please contact {{admin|Chamal N}} first. If you don't get a response, let me know and I'll unprotect, or bring back here. ]] 13:34, 4 February 2010 (UTC)


===={{la|Champlain College}}====
'''Temporary semi-protection''', Overwhelmed with riches! Apparent class assignment led newbie, but well-meaning students to flood article with raw changes. Would like a day's respite to let the dust settle. ] (]) 12:43, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
:{{rfpp|nea}} As you point out, most of the edits are well meaning, just with some formatting issues. There isn't enough vandalism to justify protection, and I'm loathe to protect it solely because of over-excited students who are ''generally'' editing properly. ]] 12:58, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

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    Bigg Boss Kannada season 11

    Temporary semi-protection: Persistent disruptive editing – Reality TV show with only the final episode to go, lots of IP edits pushing their preferred winner and just being disruptive. A week a peace would be helpful to the regular maintainers. Ravensfire (talk) 06:36, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

    Little Princess (British TV series)

    Reason: Persistent vandalism by anonymous IP addresses Dipper Dalmatian (talk) 08:47, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

    Tajol Rosli Mohd Ghazali

    Reason: High level of IP vandalism Normal rookie (talk) 11:20, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

    Declined – Not enough recent disruptive activity to justify protection. Last disruptive edit was about 6 weeks ago. Lectonar (talk) 11:42, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

    Cobra Kai season 6

    Temporary semi-protection: Persistent vandalism – Persistent vandalism by numerous IP users. Areaseven (talk) 12:36, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

    Jamal Musiala

    Temporary semi-protection: Persistent Vandalism. 💽 🌙Eclipse 💽 🌹 ⚧ (she/they) 12:38, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

    Public forum debate

    Temporary semi-protection: Persistent Disruptive Editing. 💽 🌙Eclipse 💽 🌹 ⚧ (she/they) 12:44, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

    Premier League

    Indefinite semi-protection: Persistent vandalism – Still frequently vandalized despite many protections dating back to 2007, looks like it's time for a permanent solution. Entranced98 (talk) 14:34, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

    Sunshine Central

    Reason: Article has been subject to unsourced edits by several Malaysian (probably related) IPs, possible violation of WP:PROMO. hundenvonPG (talk) 15:04, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

    Declined – Warn the user appropriately then report them to AIV or ANI if they continue. Just one disruptive IP atm; the other disruptive edits were some time ago. Lectonar (talk) 15:14, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

    Flag of China

    Semi-protection: Persistent vandalism. Filmssssssssssss (talk) 15:57, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

    The Lifetimes Tour

    Temporary semi-protection: Persistent addition of unsourced or poorly sourced content – Immediate resume of behaviour (addition of unsourced content) following page's previous protection. livelikemusic (TALK!) 16:06, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

    Sakhnin

    Reason: The page has a WP:Editnotice that is commensurate with an Extended Confirmed protection. I am not necessarily seeking Extended Confirmed protection, just consistency. Please either remove the WP:Editnotice, or apply Extended Confirmed protection. --The Mountain of Eden (talk) 16:35, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

    Harivansh Rai Bachchan

    Temporary semi-protection: Persistent vandalism – IPs keep changing death date and removing source . Fylindfotberserk (talk) 16:49, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

    Invicta Racing

    Reason: The Misplaced Pages page for Invicta Racing talks about Virtuosi Racing's history, but Invicta Racing purchased the team from Virtuosi, that's why it is discussed in Misplaced Pages. Someone is continuing to flag the website and say that we are using their sources and it's not original. This is false, we are just talking about the history of the team. The users name is MSport1005. They have been doing this for a while now because we had edited the page originally and they continued to make changes. We need this resolved asap. AviLalo (talk) 17:05, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

    Invicta Racing

    Reason: Continued disruptive editing by a single editor. Someone has created a new page to discuss the Invicta Racing, their sponsorship and achievements since purchasing the Virtuosi Racing Team. The original content I tried to update on Virtuosi's page was consistently being removed by this user turning it into a content dispute. Someone has now made a page exclusively discussing Invicta and the same user has followed asking for it to be taken down showing there must be a significant conflict of interest on the users side to keep following this topic to shut it down. Psf3397 (talk) 17:09, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

    Luke Newton

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/Luke_Newton Reason: High level of IP vandalism. AntoniaRoumeliotis23 (talk) 17:42, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

    You literally used People.com as a resource. Are you sure you're NOT the ip troll? DACartman (talk) 17:45, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
    This account needs to be locked FROM AntoniaRoumeliotis23 and fellow trolls MWikiEdits (talk) 17:49, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
    Are you talking about me? I just said that people.com is not a reliable source. DACartman (talk) 17:50, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
    See example of harassment above. I will not engage. AntoniaRoumeliotis23 (talk) 17:50, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
    I am not harrassing you, I am saying what you did and asked you a question. DACartman (talk) 17:51, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
    Plus, if you were/are Luke's girlfriend, then you have a conflict of interest. DACartman (talk) 17:53, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
    This. The user is either a troll or the real Antonia. Either way, neither one should be the authority to update the page. MWikiEdits (talk) 17:55, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

    Luke Newton

    Reason: High level of IP vandalism. Continuous troll activity.MWikiEdits (talk) 17:53, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

    Luke Newton

    Reason: User AntoniaRoumeliotis23 keeps logging in to update personal life section to reflect “she” is dating the subject of the page. User is a troll. Additionally, other anonymous trolls are making derogatory comments about main subject in both main section and personal life. Account should be protected to prevent continuous troll updates.

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    Temporary semi-protection: Persistent vandalism. Cassiopeia talk 08:08, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

    Already protected. Lectonar (talk) 13:40, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

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    Israel–Hamas war

    Currently, the lede states "On 7 October 2023, Hamas-led militant groups launched a surprise attack on Israel, taking 251 captive, against which Israelis responded applying the controversial Hannibal Directive, resulting in the death of 1,195 Israelis and foreign nationals, among which 815 civilians.". This implies that the majority of the casualties were caused by Israel applying the Hannibal Directive, and despite some cases of casualties due to this, no credible source has made the claim that the majority of casualties originate from it. I suggest changing the lede back to what it was before it was randomly edited to the current lede without any discussion on the talk page about it, to "On 7 October 2023, Hamas-led militant groups launched a surprise attack on Israel, killing 1,195 Israelis and foreign nationals and taking 251 captive." Aradkipod (talk) 12:29, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

    Israel–Hamas war

    In the section labeled "Initial Israeli counter-operation (October 2023)" it states the following: "A July 2024 Haaretz investigation revealed that the IDF ordered the Hannibal Directive to be used, killing many Israeli civilians and soldiers. An ABC News (Australia) investigation reported that at least 13 civilians were killed in a 'Hannibal' incident in Beeri."

    These sentences are incorrect and not supported by the sourced references. First off, the word "many" in the first sentence is gratuitous, misleading, and, perhaps most importantly, not supported by the Haaretz article it references, which never concludes that any citizens were killed as a direct result of a so-called "Hannibal" directive. Nowhere in the article does it state that the Hannibal directive can be tied to *any* deaths, let alone "many" deaths. Any reference in the article to potential deaths caused by a Hannibal directive are stated as questions, or that investigations are forthcoming. (e.g., "Haaretz does not know whether or how many civilians and soldiers were hit due to these procedures, but the cumulative data indicates that many of the kidnapped people were at risk, exposed to Israeli gunfire, even if they were not the target.") Either way, it certainly does not conclude that "many" deaths were tied to the use of the "Hannibal directive" which is highly misleading.

    Similarly, as to the second sentence, the ABC News (Australia) does not conclude that " at least 13 civilians were killed in a 'Hannibal' incident in Beeri". It discusses a tank shooting at a house in Kibbutz Berri , but never states that there is evidence that the IDF tank fire resulted in the death of 13 civilians -- as opposed to the 40 Hamas gunmen who were holding them captive and engaged in a "firefight" with the IDF at the time of the tank fire. The 40 Hamas gunmen could just as easily have killed them as opposed to tank fire. Indeed, an eyewitness stated "Mr Shifroni's aunt Ayala and her grand-niece Liel and grand-nephew Yanai were all killed at Pessi's house — he believes by terrorists", not by the IDF and ""There are a few others that we still don't know and we may never know what exactly killed them." Later on in the article, it states "The team determined that most of the hostages were likely murdered by the terrorists, and further inquiries and reviews of additional findings are necessary.".

    I propose that the sentences be re-worded as follows: "A July 2024 Haaretz investigation revealed that the IDF ordered the Hannibal Directive to be used at three locations, putting the lives of some Israeli civilians being held by Hamas at those locations at risk.. An ABC News (Australia) investigation reported that after a prolonged firefight in Kibbutz Be'eri with around 40 Hamas gunmen who had been holding 15 hostages inside and outside, 13 of the hostages may have been killed by either the Hamas captors or IDF tank fire." 

    Apndrew (talk) 05:07, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

    Israel–Hamas war

    Since I cannot reply to my original request on this, I am starting a new request with a different source for the request and a revised sentence:

    In the fourth paragraph of the entry, it states."A case accusing Israel of committing genocide is being reviewed by the International Court of Justice,...."

    This should be changed to "Cases accusing both Israel and Hamas of committing genocide have been lodged with or are being reviewed by the International Court of Justice,..."

    This change is supported by multiple references: https://www.timesofisrael.com/9-bereaved-israeli-families-bring-icc-war-crime-genocide-complaint-against-hamas/ "The families of nine Israeli victims of the October 7 Hamas massacre have lodged a complaint at the International Criminal Court (ICC) for suspected war crimes."

    and

    https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20231103-israeli-families-bring-war-crime-complaint-to-icc-lawyer)

    The change is necessary for accuracy, balance, and neutral point of view. 

    Apndrew (talk) 06:16, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

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