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"A Jewish youth in the ] expects from ] nothing other than ] and domination."<br/> "A Jewish youth in the ] expects from ] nothing other than ] and domination."<br/>
<small>] in the 1930s, as quoted in </small><br/> <small>] in the 1930s, as quoted in </small><br/>
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- Because 'Jew' just doesn't go with ']', it just doesn't go. It doesn't even sound right.<br/>
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- Look, I've got nothing against Arabs. I even have friends who are Arabs, but how can you say ']' when all the Arabs want is to destroy the Jews?<br/>
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== Stephan Hanna Stephan ==
==لماذا؟==
لماذا تقوم بحذف اسم دولة فلسطين من مقالة ،Tiamut مرحبا*
*]
*كلما قمت أنا بوضع كلمة دولة أو
*state
*قبل كلمة فلسطين أو
*Palestine
*فالمقالة تتحدث عن فلسطين كدولة ويجب أن تكون كلمة "دولة" في المقالة عند كل مرة تذكر فيها فلسطين، وأرجو منك الرد علي في صفحة في ويكيبيديا العربية
(] (]) 11:18, 13 February 2010 (UTC))


Is it true that we don't have an article on Stephan Hanna Stephan? We need one. That thesis of Sarah Irving you cited and some others of her publications would be a good start. ]<sup><small>]</small></sup> 07:34, 1 May 2021 (UTC)
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: See ]. I started it yesterday. ]<sup>]</sup> 08:30, 1 May 2021 (UTC)


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] ]<sup><small>]</small></sup> 10:36, 4 November 2009 (UTC) (].) --] (]) 05:56, 3 May 2021 (UTC)


== Welcome back ==
: Now that's done, we can concentrate on the article. Can you please go to and see if you can read page 111? (Search for "Bassa".) I'm not sure if that page is generally unavailable or I have just reached my page limit for that book. Cheers. ]<sup><small>]</small></sup> 13:04, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
:: Seems Amazon has tightened up its access quite a lot. Thanks for trying. Petersen's book costs more than $400, unfortunately, but I will get it temporarily by interlibrary loan. ]<sup><small>]</small></sup> 22:28, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
:::If any of you want anything from the Petersen, 2002-book: just ask me. It is excellent! (and horribly expensive...) Cheers, ] (]) 23:08, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
::::Hey, I sent you an email about this. And yeah; I know the "mind-set"; my threshold -level for buying books is so low that it is almost invisible ;D ..However; I suspect the price will fall if you can wait a year or three. I saw that on some of the ]-books; great books, but used to cost 150-250 USD 3-4 years ago; now the exact same books cost less that 100 USD on abebooks. For the moment there are so many things that can be added even without the books, just on "google-view" (say; ])...I must say though: both Petersen and Sharon are better on giving their sources that Khalidi is. And Petersen gives *all* references, even if he does not use them himself. E.g., the nice Martiti-ref. in ] is something I found in Petersen, Khalidi does not mention him at all. Of course, both Petersen and Sharon had the advantage that they could build on Khalidi´s work.
::::Another thing: Petersen is very good at documenting where inscriptions etc. have disappeared. And that is a frightening number. At ], ], ] and ]: all of them have had Mamluk inscriptions "disappear" since 1948 (I´m sure there are more; these are just some I have come across). We are talking about the destruction of 700-800 year old artifacts. It *seriously* makes me furious. Oh well, back to documenting.... cheers, ] (]) 13:54, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
:::::Just a note; if you are going to buy the Sharon-books: remember, there are 5 of them...so far! And he has just gotten to the letter "G"! I have collected the refs . It is going to be a terrific (and expensive!) library when it is finished..
:::::As for articles I would like to see developed; well, everything! But I would really love to see the architecture-articles I started in project-space finished; that is; the bridges, + the Abu Huraira Mausoleum.... Petersen has *a lot* about all of these three structures, but, strangely enough, nothing on Sheik Abreik. Take care, my dear, logging out for today, cheers, ] (]) 17:37, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
:::::: Petersen spells it '''Shaykh Burayk''', something that I can't read on pp 215,216, also Figure 72. Amazon is good for searching. ]<sup><small>]</small></sup> 05:06, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
::::::: Nope, that´t the Atlit one; see ]. ..and I hope both of you got the email with the 1-page attachment? Rather primitive, I´m afraid...Cheers, ] (]) 00:49, 9 November 2009 (UTC)


Ahlan was sahlan Tiamut. Glad to see you are back and not missing a beat! Looking forward to your new contributions and collaborating again in the near future. --] (]) 16:34, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
==Ani medjool==
: Ahlan feek ]. Good to see you still here and it would be my pleasure. ]<sup>]</sup> 16:44, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
I've had a further notification of concern over this editor's contributions. Therefore I've raised the issue at ]. ] (]) 09:29, 5 November 2009 (UTC)


And another welcome back from me, and good to see you contributing as prolifically as before ... except I'm worried at your ominous silence for the last 10 days, given all the horrors that are going on in Israel/Palestine right now. Anyway, best wishes for now. --] (]) 19:21, 16 May 2021 (UTC)
==MUA==


:I am fine. But cannot contribute right now. Hope to again soon. Much love. ]<sup>]</sup> 12:35, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
Hello. Thank you for for your comments concerning the discussion on MUA. I was a little puzzled however, as to your comments concerning me. Since I started editing Misplaced Pages, I focused on three topics, the Gaza War, the Second Lebanon War and the Yom kippur War. I am a student of military history. I served five years in the military. The Middle East Wars (not just those involving Israel and the Arabs) are matters of great interest to me. The focus of my edits relate to technical military matters. Hence, for the Gaza War piece, I added a section captioned "Arms interdiction and the Sudan strike" as well as an additional section captioned "Post War Military Assessment." Those edits were created and researched entirely by me. With respect to the latter section, some editors made some objections and accordingly, I changed the section to address their concerns and establish consensus. I will admit that at times, I was somewhat aggressive with my edits but it was only in response to MUAs extreme provocations. I tried to reason with him but it was an impossible task. First, his poor English limited his ability to communicate effectively. Second, he seemed to enjoy provoking editors. In any event, my goal is to add content rather than revert. When there is objection to a specific edit, I will discuss that matter in the discussion and talk pages and I have been known to self-revert in the interest of consensus, even when I thought I was right. I have also had some limited interaction with Nableezy and actually, got along fairly well with him. We've had our differences and resolved them amicably. I even offered to mediate the dispute he was having with Stellar but to my embarassment, I got sidetracked by MUA. In short, I consider myself a professional who seeks only to improve the article's content with verifiable reliable sources. In Misplaced Pages, I am of no nationality or ethnicity. I am a wikipedian. Respectfully,--] (]) 02:04, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
:Hello and thank you for responding. Yes I’ve used Israeli sources but also utilized a fair number of non-Israeli sources as well, including AP, NPR, Washington Institute for Near East Policy, The Spectator, Aviation week, New York Times, Fox news and The Daily Telegraph. I’ve also relied on Israeli sources including JPost (Israel’s leading English daily), Ynet and Haaretz. These are reliable sources and there is general consensus on this. In fact, Haaretz is a newspaper that is often times extremely critical of Israel’s policies. Concerning your claim that I push the Israeli POV, I vehemently disagree. I don’t push any POV. My only goal is to make the article concise and informative with hard facts and reliable sources. Respectfully--] (]) 08:01, 8 November 2009 (UTC)


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Hi there Tiamut. I applaud your efforts to uphold ] and ] at ]. please keep me posted. --] (]) 16:02, 12 November 2009 (UTC)


The third round of the 2021 WikiCup has now come to an end. Each of the sixteen contestants who made it into the fourth round had at least 294 points, and our top six scorers all had over 600 points. They were:
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*{{flagicon|BWA}} ], with 1825 points from 3 featured articles, 44 featured article reviews, 14 good articles, 30 good article reviews and 10 DYKs. In addition, he completed a 34-article good topic on the ].
Hi Tiamut, thought you might want to know about this newly emerging situation. The page has been quiet for quite awhile, and I thought all sides had created a fairly fair-minded entry. But GHcool may be determined to ruin that.] (]) 20:50, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
*{{flagicon|New York (state)}} ], a New York specialist, with 1083 points from 2 featured article reviews, 18 good articles, 30 DYKs and plenty of bonus points.
*{{flagicon|Republic of Venice|wartime}} ], with 869 points from 11 DYKs, all with bonus points, and 54 "In the news" items, mostly covering people who had recently died.
*] ], with 817 points from 3 featured articles on historic battles in Europe, 5 featured article reviews and 3 good articles.
*] ], with 659 points from 2 featured articles and 2 good articles on American Civil War battles, 18 featured article reviews, 2 good articles, 6 good article reviews and 4 DYKs.
*] ], a snooker specialist and new to the Cup, with 647 points from a featured article, 2 featured article reviews, 6 good articles, 6 good article reviews and 3 DYKs.


In round three, contestants achieved 19 featured articles, 7 featured lists, 106 featured article reviews, 72 good articles, 1 good topic, 62 good article reviews, 165 DYKs and 96 ITN items. We enter the fourth round with scores reset to zero; any content promoted after the end of round 3 but before the start of round 4 can be claimed in round 4. Please also remember that you must claim your points within 14 days of "earning" them (one contestant in round 3 lost out because of this). When doing GARs, please make sure that you check that all the GA criteria are fully met.
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Hello :)
Hey Tiamut,
I am writing my MA dissertation on Misplaced Pages Wars and the Israel-Palestine conflict, and I noticed that you have contributed to those pages. My dissertation will look at the process of collaborative knowledge production on the Israel-Palestine conflict, and the effect it has on bias in the articles. This will involve understanding the profiles and motivations of editors, contention/controversy and dispute resolution in the talk pages, and bias in the final article.
Any news? No rush, just a reminder if you've forgotten. :) I've been pretty inactive here for a while, and don't know when I'll have a chance to contribute more. --] (]) 09:09, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
For more information, you can check out my or my , where I will be posting my findings when I am done.
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Hi Tiamut, I'd be grateful if there were any sources or stories around ] - apparently known as ''khubz el a'a'' or "crow's bread" in Arabic... see ] - all detective work apprecaited :) ] (] '''·''' ]) 10:16, 17 November 2009 (UTC)


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Marhaba Tiamut! Please, whenever you have the time, could you write up a lead for the ] article. I'm planning on nominating it for GA status soon (and afterward FA status) and any help will be very appreciated. Cheers and keep up the great work! --] (]) 05:47, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
:Thanks for the advice. I wrote most of what's already there up and will add info on Suez and leadership of the Third World. Still, afterward I would like if you took a look at it. I will notify you when I think it's ready. --] (]) 01:25, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
::Ok, I whipped one up, but I couldn't find a way to include Bandung and/or the Non-Aligned Movement. Your advice and criticism is sought ;) --] (]) 06:52, 24 November 2009 (UTC)


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Hi Tiamut, please see that a deletion discussion has been started on the above writer. I saw that you also mentioned him recently on ]. Regards, ] (]) 07:59, 27 November 2009 (UTC)


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My knowledge of Arabic doesn't make me anything close to an etymologist. :) Anyway, based on the etymology, wouldn't it be appropriate to have the French word as well? I don't know what the word is, otherwise I'd put it in myself. ] (]) 21:54, 20 December 2009 (UTC)
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Generally the MoS suggests adding only the root from which the word is derived, rather than the full sequence (at least as far as I recall). ]<sup>]</sup> 08:24, 21 December 2009 (UTC)


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#{{Misplaced Pages:WikiCup/Participant12|The Rambling Man}} with 5072 points
I will NOT self-revert my changes. I believe both of us broke the 3RR rule, so we're both at stake in here. --]</sup>]] 22:27, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
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May your Christmas be joyous and peaceful. I meant no slight concerning the weight attached to the noun ‘Arab’ relative to its modifier, and am sorry if you may have taken my comment that way. I am well aware of the linguistic precedence relative to other occurrences on your side of the peninsula, and had already guessed your roots, but am less firmly aware of those relativities on the other side of it. As my second post indicates, I am firmly on the outside looking in, but also aware of the other view; it is now just a matter of the wording of that quirk with a quirky and AGF-less editor. On a first look, I do not particularly like the anon-suggested addition of ‘speaking’, since it makes that very noun an adjective, but I note that the ‘speaking’ is one of the defining considerations that makes the Arab League. Highest regards, ] (]) 02:39, 25 December 2009 (UTC)
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i'm just wondering if you would ever consider a palestinian to be jewish, or a jew to be a legitimate palestinian, or are these facts useless relics of forgotten history.
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== ''The Bugle'': Issue CLXXVII, December 2021 ==
shimon peres almost drives me insane with his desire to erase the past.


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i'd love to work on improving more levantine articles, id est maccabee-era israel, syria palestina, and the arab and jewish struggles against british and american imperialism.


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It matters little what I think, as identity is self-defined. However, since you asked, I do consider self-identified Palestinian Jews to be Palestinians (like ]) and I wish more Jews identified as Palestinian. I also consider Jews who lived in Palestine before Zionist immigration to be Palestinians (if they do of themselves).
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Anytime you wish to have a hand at developing a given article, let me know. I'm always looking for editors interested in good faith collaboration to work with. Its much nicer to edit in pairs or more than alone. Welcome to Misplaced Pages and thanks for your note. ]<sup>]</sup> 19:35, 28 December 2009 (UTC)


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I just found , when the current list for Jordan didn’t seem right. I believe it should be restored, but am unfamiliar enough to do it, although I've driven past several listed. Regards, ] (]) 07:36, 29 December 2009 (UTC)


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Hey, I'm afraid Palestine has already been claimed by another editor. You're welcome to choose another flag that meets the rules, or if you wait, you will be assigned one randomly before the beginning of the competition. Thanks. ] (]) 18:26, 29 December 2009 (UTC)


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*{{flagicon|New York (state)}} ], a finalist last year, who led the field with 1906 points, gained from 32 GAs and 19 DYKs, all on the topic of New York buildings.
I don't mean to get personal, but why is the word muqawama offensive (per ) to a Palesitnian who hears it used daily (on television, radio, etc.) by his own people in reference to their own goals and aspirations? I understand fromour past converssations that your Arabic is not very good, but it is a basic word for your people (: The main Palestinian leader, ] of Hamas, uses it 11 times in 5 minutes with the context of destroying Israel). To be honest, as much as I don't want to dissatisfy any editor on wikipedia, I can't avoid it since it is integral to the converstaion. I'll still make an effort though and try to not mention it where it doesn't belong.<br>
*{{flagicon|Christmas Island}} ], new to the contest, was second with 1588 points, having achieved 2 FAs, 11 GAs and various other submissions, mostly on the subject of birds.
Warm regards, <b><font face="Arial" color="teal">]</font><font color="1F860E"><sup>'']''</sup></font></b> 15:36, 30 December 2009 (UTC) more accurate 15:39, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
*{{flagicon|Kingdom of Scotland|old}} ], a WikiCup veteran, was in third place with 682 points, garnered from 51 In the news items and several DYKs.
*{{flagicon|Philadelphia}} ] was close behind with 679 points, gained from achieving 12 GAs, mostly on ice hockey players, and 35 GARs.
*{{flagicon|United Nations}} ] was in fifth place with 551 points, with an FA, a FL, and many reviews.
*] ] was next with 454 points, gained from an FA and various other submissions, mostly on United States highways.
*{{flagicon|United Nations}} ], another WikiCup veteran, was in seventh place with 412 points, mostly gained from In the news items.


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:Its the way you use the word that I find offensive, Jaakobou. You bring it up incessantly, even when it is not relevant to a given discussion. You also tend to use it derisively, as in , where you write: "there's quite a lot of Muslims who are not stooges for the muqawama rhetorics." I'd appreciate it if you would heed my request, and not the use the word when it is not being used by sources we are discussing and when it is not related to article discussions. And my Arabic is fine by the way, certainly any difficulties I have with ''fusha'' do not impede my ability to understand what the word ''muqawama'' means. I think perhaps it is you that may not understand its broader meaning, limiting as you do to simply the destruction of Israel. ]<sup>]</sup> 15:54, 30 December 2009 (UTC)


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::I'd never do something as silly as to limit it to Israel only, that would be quite silly of me when its clear -- even by the video example -- that it has a much wider meaning. I actually disagree with Israeli middle-east expert and journalist Ehud Yaary who limited it to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict in . Regardless, I'm not fully pleased with my use of the word 'stooges', I'll give you that, and I apologize for it and will make an effort not to use it again. Still, terrorists have used the "muqawama" as an excuse for constant warfare and there's really no way to work around that. You can't say that it is irrelevant if terrorist actions were inspired by "muqawama" rhetorics and iconography. That video of ] makes it quite clear that the word (used 11 times in 5 minutes) has a deep significance to their rhetorics.
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:::Well, thank you for apologizing. However, my concerns about your limiting its meaning to something inherently and exclusively negative remain. For many people, "resistance" (''muqawama'') includes legitimate resistance in the form of non-violent actions or the targeting of military installations or personnel engaging in illegal occupation or aggressive/offensive actions. In any case, so as to avoid prolonging this discussion, which has nothing to do with article improvement, let me just say that while you are entitled to your opinion, I'd prefer if you would keep it to yourself when it is not related to article discussions. I'd also like to not hear you use the word ''muqawama'' unless it is discussed by sources that are relevant to the articles we are discussing. Thanks. ]<sup>]</sup> 16:27, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
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::::Maybe I'm misunderstanding you, but you seem to be limiting the word to usage in what is deemed legitimate protest in western cultures. That is, realistically speaking, a plainly false interpretation. Certainly, in my , Mashaal is not talking about holding up sings and chanting 'down with Israel'. I'm not going to go into your own offensive use of language (per 'legitimate'/'illegal') since we're trying to be able to collaborate despite opposing perspectives. I'll be sure to make an effort to use the term only when relevant to the discussed issues, that I can promise.
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== That was quick == == WikiCup 2022 May newsletter ==


The second round of the 2022 WikiCup has now finished. It was a high-scoring round and contestants needed 115 points to advance to round 3. There were some very impressive efforts in round 2, with the top seven contestants all scoring more than 500 points. A large number of the points came from the 11 featured articles and the 79 good articles achieved in total by contestants.
I'm glad I could tempt you back so easily! :) ] (]) 21:55, 2 January 2010 (UTC)


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No explanation is necessary. I was responding to a question about Nableezy. not others.] (]) 22:05, 2 January 2010 (UTC)


#{{flagicon|New York (state)}} ], with 1264 points from 2 featured article, 4 good articles and 18 DYKs. Epicgenius was a finalist last year but has now withdrawn from the contest as he pursues a new career path.
:I see. So you are out to get editors who do not agree with you, and ignore the actions of editors who do agree with you, and as per , you have no problem threatening them too. Congratulations, by the way, on your success in chasing away ]. It almost shut me down too, but I wouldn't want to make your year. ]<sup>]</sup> 22:19, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
#{{flagicon|Christmas Island}} ], with 1172 points from two featured articles, one good article and a substantial number of featured article and good article reviews.
::<s>It was my pleasure.</s>On second thought, having a bad attitude doesn't help anything. I disagree with your take on things and there is nothing you can say to change that. I doubt I will be changing how you feel regardless of what I say so let it die already. I know you are upset but I have no interest in continuing some sort of debate on this.] (]) 23:51, 2 January 2010 (UTC)] (]) 23:46, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
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== ''The Bugle'': Issue CXCIII, May 2022 ==
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== ''The Bugle'': Issue CXCIV, June 2022 ==
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Thanks for your message. Please lay out the history clearly. My top-of-the-head understanding is that his is to do with the delete discussion for an article on a journalist where Nish, Nick and the Monkey puppeteer commented and Nableezy tried to restore Nich and Nick's stuff after they were deleted as inviolation of the ban. They were all taken to the arb-related incident page where the admin decided not to take action. Then, amonth later, Sandstein suddenly decides to take action. If this understanding is correct, then I most certainly will support any appeal and do think that Sanstein is out of line. But, as I said, please document everything, so that I can check my understanding before speaking out in a palce where real decisions may be made.--] (]) 20:04, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
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Hi Tiamut. Sandstein's handling of the situation has obviously been very foolish, but I've never dealt with him before and have no idea whether this foolishness is par for the course or an exception; whether there is a personal or clique-related background to the harassment of Nableezy; or whether he simply made a bad call and then started doubling up when criticized. Some of his responses make me think the last of these is likely. At any rate, I'd suggest waiting for Gatoclass' advice, and in the meantime proceeding coolly. Perhaps Sandstein can be persuaded to leave Nableezy's case in the hands of another admin. All best, --] (]) 20:11, 4 January 2010 (UTC)


*] ], with 746 points, a tally built both on snooker and other sports topics, and on more general subjects.
:Moments ago I left a message for Sandstein asking her/him to do just that. Let's see how Sandstein responds. —&nbsp;]&nbsp;<sup>]</sup>/<sub>]</sub> 20:24, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
*{{flagicon|Kingdom of Scotland|old}} ], with 683 points, garnered mostly from "In the news" items and related DYKs.
*] ], with 527, from a variety of submissions related to radio and television stations.


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:::I did the same as Malik Shabazz () but are not often enough on[REDACTED] to do more. I hope Sandstein will understand by himself he crossed the red line here. ] (]) 21:04, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
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== ''The Bugle'': Issue CXCVI, July 2022 ==
ahlan ya Tiamut, thanks for your message. Yes, I was surprised by Sandstein's block this morning, which seemed to me to be arbitrary and vindictive. And yes of course, in principle I will support your appeal and RfC. I would like to see it have Nableezy's support and participation, but I think I would still support it even if not (though I'd have to consider carefully in that case).


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== ''The Bugle'': Issue CXCVII, August 2022 ==
Funnily enough, I don't usually agree with IronDuke, but much of what he said on Nableezy's page was very wise. And thanks also to Malik Shabbaz for his wise action.


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:Hi Tiamut. I left another message for Sandstein. I hope Sandstein will back away out of the appearance of a conflict but I'm not optimistic.
:In terms of next steps, I'm not sure whether it's time for an RfC unless there have been other situations in which Sandstein has been accused of abusing her/his role as an administrator. A discussion on ANI may be appropriate, or you may want to let it drop ''this time'' but be ready to bring any future problems to ANI right away. Sorry that I don't have any better suggestions. —&nbsp;]&nbsp;<sup>]</sup>/<sub>]</sub> 21:43, 4 January 2010 (UTC)


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::Hi Tiamut, I have not been able to catch up on the whole situation (I've been on the road driving through Central America the past few days -- and internet access in 3rd world countries is...well...irregular at best), but I did notice the block for adding information at the NoCal100 SPI. Given what I have been able to read so far, I would hope that Sandstein would elaborate on why he felt the ban was proper, as it seems a bit of a stretch to block someone due to their commenting on an SPI case. Regards --]<sup>]</sup> 02:21, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
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:::As you know, I have been away from home, and only just returned and catching up. I missed the development of this scandal; otherwise I would have intervened earlier. I completely agree with your assessment, and will be happy to back you up and contribute in whatever way I am able to reverse this abuse of procedures and to restore Nableezy's right to edit. <span style="font-family: Papyrus">] (])</span> 10:50, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
::::Tiamut, I support your work on this issue, from what I've seen so far up to this point. please keep me posted. --] (]) 14:31, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
===Nableezy's Appeal===
Yes, I saw and was planning to comment. Very busy at the moment. The recent disruption and drama was entirely caused by Sandstein's actions. In the best of faith he holds some extreme and unworkable (and worse, counterproductive) abstract ideas about how to enforce rules and decisions. Nableezy's case should be a good place to explore this issue, which not restricted to Sandstein.] (]) 22:04, 5 January 2010 (UTC)


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But I think if you took your foot off the gas pedal a bit, as per Nableezy's request (as I read it), you would help, rather than hurt, his cause. Cheers. <font color="green">]</font> 01:12, 6 January 2010 (UTC)


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:I need time to think about it. I've expressed some of why I feel that way . ]<sup>]</sup> 19:48, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
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::I honestly think it would be best to let this go, at least the part about my ban. I obviously felt Sandstein was wrong, most people who disagree with me are, but I dont think he actually abused any "powers" that he has or really showed any bias (in fact he was the admin that blocked a user, immediately without any warnings, who called me a "Hamas operative"). The canvassing accusation was silly, but nothing to get too worked up over, at least in my opinion. But I wanted to say thanks for all the support and I hope you are well. <small style="border: 1px solid;padding:1px 3px;white-space:nowrap">''']''' - 19:55, 6 January 2010 (UTC)</font></small>
:::Your opinion means a lot to me Nableezy. I'm inclined to agree with you that I should probably let it go, since we are here to edit an encyclopedia. I remain somewhat concerned though by the way Sandstein tried to dismiss the validity of those critiquing his decision by invoking our alleged partisanship. While I expect that of Jaakobou and Stellarkid (as evidenced most recently in their comments in your appeal), I don't think its behaviour becoming of someone who is supposed to be an impartial arbitrator between us all, and who is entrusted with the power to use discrtetionary sanctions to ban or block people editing here. Do you understand what I'm saying? ]<sup>]</sup> 20:11, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
:::PS. Thanks for the thanks. And yes I am doing well, despite the excitement of the last few days. Thanks for asking. ]<sup>]</sup> 20:12, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
::::I get what you are saying, but that is just how admins here are, and honestly its partly our (the people who work in these topics) fault. No matter what the circumstances of a particular judgment, an admin who tries to do anything in the I/P area is subjected to cries of abuse and poor judgment and often of blatant bias. Sometimes it is true, but there are plenty of times when it is not. But because we do this with such regularity, on both sides, those admins who are willing to do some pretty thankless tasks, like patrolling AE, start thinking of that as background noise and they tune it out. And Sandstein, like most of us, thinks he is right or else he would not do what he does. That doesnt make him necessarily a bad admin, maybe a stubborn one, just a normal one. The one thing that pissed me off the most about Sandstein's ban was his response after I gave him the diff from AGK and the link to the prior thread. At that point I think he should have carefully reexamined the case, not brush it off as a minor point not worthy of consideration. But again, that just makes him stubborn, and no more stubborn than I am at that. I think the way we judge admins should be on their consistency, and I do not have any reason to believe that had the AE request been about 3 "pro-I's" that Sandstein would have come to a different conclusion. Should he have listened to the other complaints at his talk page? Maybe, but there really were not a whole lot of truly uninvolved people there commenting, admin bit or not. I think it is understandable that, and I have no idea if he actually felt this way, he could have felt that he was under attack. Normal response in that situation is to dig in. One of the few things I think I have actually learned about this place is that the more people who comment in a thread the less likely that thread will result in anything usable. Sort of a law of diminishing returns for wikipedia. What I should have done was just appeal the sanction right away, would have saved a lot of people a decent chunk of time and avoided all the arguments that in the end did not do much except create deeper and wider rifts between people who supposedly should be working together. But, to bring this post with no direction to a grinding halt, I personally think it would be best for all involved to let anything left of this go. <small style="border: 1px solid;padding:1px 3px;white-space:nowrap">''']''' - 20:34, 6 January 2010 (UTC)</font></small>
::::You're right. About most everything you said. (Though I understand why you didn't appeal right away. It was just so shocking.) I need to learn to be more forgiving towards those with whom I have disagreements. I will drop it. I'll keep the subpage with the breakdown of what happened, under a new title, just in case some people are less forgiving towards you, and we need to rehash some of this in a future frivolous complaint. Cheers Nableezy. PS. I hope this means you coming out of retirement? ]<sup>]</sup> 20:44, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
:::::Not quite yet, though maybe in the not so distant future. <small style="border: 1px solid;padding:1px 3px;white-space:nowrap">''']''' - 20:55, 6 January 2010 (UTC)</font></small>
::::::Take whatever time you need. Just make sure that you do so eventually. Take care of yourself Nableezy. ]<sup>]</sup> 21:02, 6 January 2010 (UTC)


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Please read ] - you made a bold change, removing hebrew content that had been in the article a long time. More than one editor reverted you - there's clearly no consensus for your change. Take it to Talk or dispute resolution. ] (]) 17:31, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
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:Whatever. You are clearly a sockpuppet of someone I quite familiar with. Please respond to my question regarding the name of your previous accounts. Thanks. ]<sup>]</sup> 17:34, 9 January 2010 (UTC)


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::Have you come across the tool; perhaps it would help. Los_Admiralos's editing and is peculiar to say the least. -- ] (]) 14:04, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
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::To the passerby reading this, . Please note that despite his not reverting his fifth revert, I did not file a 3RR report. His comments were the thanks I got for not making good on my "threat". ]<sup>]</sup> 21:26, 25 January 2010 (UTC)


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Hi, Tiamut. I'd like to apologize . I was more than upset for everything that was happening to me, but no matter how much upset I was what I said to you was insulting and wrong, and I am deeply sorry for that. BTW I wonder why they did not run SPI on me and the users that you suggested. Your suggestion had much more sense than theirs did. Running SPI on me, and the users, whose sole contribution was... no, not to help me, but to attack me, had no sense at all. Nothing had any sense on that day, I even would not have been surprised, if that unbelievable SPI came back with a positive results. Anything could have happened in Kingdom of Crooked Mirrors :). Anyway...--] (]) 20:42, 28 January 2010 (UTC)


*{{flagicon image|Royal standard of England (1406–1603).svg|link=Dual monarchy of England and France}} ] with 1205 points, a WikiCup newcomer, led the field with two featured articles on historical figures and several featured article candidate reviews.
Hi Mbz1. I understood the moment you made the comment that it came from a place of frustration and didn't really take it heart anyway, though I do appreciate the apology. I am sorry too, for assuming that you were a sockpuppet, based on a vague feeling, and without any solid evidence. I'm especially sorry that I contributed to an atmosphere that drove you to despair. I'm glad to see you're feeling good enough to use happy emoticons. :) Take care of yourself and remember never to take Misplaced Pages too seriously. It can be very bad for your health. ]<sup>]</sup> 20:56, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
*{{flagicon|New York (state)}} ] was in second place with 789 points; a seasoned WikiCup competitor he specialises in buildings and locations in New York.
*{{flagicon|Germany}} ] was in third place with 625 points, garnered from a featured article on a filmmaker which qualified for an impressive number of bonus points.
*{{flagicon|USA}} ], another WikiCup newcomer, came next with 600 points gained from two featured articles on video games.
*{{flagicon|Byzantine Empire}} ] was in fifth place with 532 points, from two featured articles on classical history.


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I do feel a little better after I watched "My fair lady" Have you ever watched it? It is one of my most favorite movies.If you've watched it, you might remember the scene, when Professor Henry Higgins, Colonel Hugh Pickering and Eliza Doolittle came home after triumph at the reception? Professor Henry Higgins and Colonel Hugh Pickering started to congratulate each-other, but completely forgot about Eliza. She got very upset, and later told Professor Henry Higgins: "I wish I was dead". Then she left and met Freddy Eynsford-Hill. He asked her, where she was going? She said she was going to the river. He asked her why, and she responded "to make a hole in it." What reasons did Eliza have to wish to be dead, to make a hole in a river? Was she angry? Of course she was was not, she was hopeless, upset and desperate. When I finished watching that movie somehow I felt not so alone anymore. Some people believe that what I said at my talk page was said out of anger. Thank you very much for understanding that it was said out of despair, and maybe even the word "despair" does not have enough strength to show how I have felt.--] (]) 22:16, 28 January 2010 (UTC)


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:I love that movie. I used to know all the words to all of the songs. Musicals are my favourite.
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Yeah, you are right, except, I did step back for few minutes before I posted the infamous message, and it did not help at all. Maybe next time I need to step back for an hour or two :) Well after all, I am glad we had this conversation. It is great to know that in spite of all out disagreements we have something in common, and could understand each other at least once in a while:) BTW it might be an interesting idea, when people are getting really upset with each other, instead of arguing and hurting each other, try to find something that they share. Anyway, I said what I had to say, and I will not bother you any longer. Good luck to you too!--] (]) 22:38, 28 January 2010 (UTC)


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May i note that on the issue of the Mosque, it is mistkaen for a building by many today; while since its establishment al-Aqsa is the whole enclave; known today as al-Haram al-Sharif, which includes many buildings. <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 17:56, 29 January 2010 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
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Around half of competitors are yet to score. Please remember to submit content soon after it is promoted, so that the judges are able to review entries. 64 of the 149 current competitors will advance to round 2- if you currently have no points, do not worry, as over half of the current top 64 have under 50 points. Everyone needs to get their entries in now to guarantee their places in round 2! If you are concerned that your nomination will not receive the necessary reviews, and you hope to get it promoted before the end of the round, please list it on ]. However, please remember to continue to offer reviews at GAC, FAC and all the other pages that require them to prevent any backlogs which could otherwise be caused by the Cup. As ever, questions are welcome on ] and the judges are reachable on their talk pages, by email or on IRC. Good luck! ], ], ] and ] <small>Delivered by ] (]) at 00:22, 1 February 2010 (UTC)</small>

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...you really are quite ridiculous. Sometimes I don't have the patience to deal with your nonsense. I guess that means you win in a sick sick way! ] (]) 08:10, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

:"ridiculous" ... "nonsense" .... I suppose your restoring to name-calling means you don't have a rational argument to make. Thanks for conceding that. ]<sup>]</sup> 08:21, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
::Far from name calling. On second thought, allowing you to destroy Misplaced Pages's objectivity to such a degree doesn't sit well with me. I'll deal with it later today. Cheers, ] (]) 08:25, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

:::Now that's funny. Stylizing yourself as a paragon of objectivity and defender of the Wiki when instead of using reliable sources to support your arguments, you rely on the self-evidence of the ] as you know it. Please do some real research this time around. I'm getting tired of reading tangential OR speculation and the citing of one source that actually contradicts the argument you are advocating. ]<sup>]</sup> 08:33, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

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Thanks for tour comment. Nobody reported me. I reported a clear single-purpose for edit-warring, after his fifth tendentious reversion in a day to ]; the reviewing admin blocked both of us for 24 hours, even though I had not breached 3RR. The offending editor has repeatedly introduced edits claiming that Hitler and the Nazis were socialists, that socialism is advanced liberalism, and that communism is anti-socialist. I smell a very dubious agenda here. <span style="font-family: Papyrus">] (])</span> 16:33, 2 February 2010 (UTC)


*{{flagicon|Byzantine Empire}} ] (1040) with three FAs on ], and lots of bonus points.
*{{flagicon image|Royal standard of England (1406–1603).svg|link=Dual monarchy of England and France}} ] (847), with three FAs on ], one GA and nine reviews.
*{{flagicon|New York (state)}} ] (636), a WikiCup veteran, with one FA on the ], four GAs and eleven DYKs
*{{flagicon image|Flag_of_Esperanto.svg|link=Esperanto}} ] (553), a seasoned competitor, with one FA on ], six GAs and seven reviews.
*{{flagicon|Germany}} ] (525), with one FA, a Lady Gaga ] and a mass of bonus points.


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== palestinian jews/uri davis ==


So far contestants have achieved thirteen featured articles between them, one being a joint effort, and forty-nine good articles. The judges are pleased with the thorough reviews that are being performed, and have hardly had to reject any. As we enter the third round, remember that any content promoted after the end of round 2 but before the start of round 3 can be claimed in round 3. Remember too that you must claim your points within 14 days of "earning" them.
well im not jewish so i dont know the whole ] thing from the jews POV but he made those statements before 2008 more for ideological attack against zionism than actual identity. its not really about identity but but accuracy. Adding his okay i guess aslong as it should be mentioned he converted to Islam. I hear the jews also dont recognize people who ''convert out of the religion''.
if your intrested in adding expanding the article more here is an episode from some program i saw on youtube that talks about '''palestinian jews''' and their families who live the west bank now, also talks about a town called ] how most people who lived there are originally jews. It goes on to explain that Jewish dna and a common link between ] and Palestinian Arabs were found. I dont know when the program was aired or who carried out the study. still its a good reference (theorectically) for issue on the origin of ] and does refute the often claim by Israel that palestinians dont exist and were immigrants from other arab countries , when it was israelis themselves who carried out this research and test.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3gGinwyNYE&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AenISgolLe0&feature=related
g'day
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I love you, you do things so quickly and efficiently! I was going to simply say about the live silkworms and process of hatching displays but I prefer your hook mentioning the princess!]</span><sup>]</sup> 21:49, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

Thanks! Any GAs in the pipeline? ]</span><sup>]</sup> 22:04, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

Cool! Lovely! Both articles at quick glance look awesome, particularly Nableezys article! To the casual eye they definately both look GA but I'll have a read of them later, see what I think. Qedarite, when you first see the word sounds like a mineral or something eh? I guess though the name is no different to many tribal names in the middle east ending in "Ite". Excellent work, once again Tiamut! ]</span><sup>]</sup> 22:16, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

You know what, I've only read the first few paragraphs and already I'm excited. I can't tell you enough how much I love reading about the Holy Land history. Ancient Egypt and Israel fascinates me beyond belief. I unfortunately don't contribute enough to the ancient world on wikipedia, my last articles from the ancient world were ] and ]. But its the sort of excitement I get from watching documentaries by people like ].]</span><sup>]</sup> 22:40, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

Oh OK, sorry about that.]</span><sup>]</sup> 22:46, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

Literally a "good article". Only some small things. Perhaps you should reference the approximate dates of the rulers in the table. Also, what about cultural aspects of the Qedarites. What about their domestic way of living, clothing, working, social interaction, festivities shared etc? Is there nothing about their cultural practices in history or illustrated through archaeological inds like tools, pottery etc or are they too ancient? It would be good if the article could describe them as a people in better detail...]</span><sup>]</sup> 23:11, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

Also I started ]. Perhaps you know more about him?]</span><sup>]</sup> 23:39, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

I gather you disagree with my suggestions?]</span><sup>]</sup> 16:09, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
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Seems like a reasonable approach. Do you want to suggest some language here that encompasses both our positions, for that page? I'll see if I have any suggested edits, and then we can proceed with less disagreement at least in posting it for RfC? I will be most interested there in the comments of previously topic-uninvolved editors.--] (]) 22:16, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

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For the record I wanted to commend the detail research on ]. I hope that I am not offending by the nitpicking on the GA review. Dealing with topics that have religious associations can be tricky. Some editors might have different viewpoints than me (certainly I have seen WP articles related to religion that I considered very biased and yet they don't get challenged). If for any reason you feel I am being too judgemental I'd be ok with deferring to another reviewer.
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:I'll take a look later today or this weekend. --] (])

::Sorry I took so long. Though I still have some concerns about how the topic is covered I think the writing is sufficient for GA (if you want to push it to FA I'd recommend a peer review). The one outstanding issue, though, for GA is that there are still the two images that do not have sufficient information establishing that they are public domain. I can't pass it unless that is addressed (i.e. either update the image pages with the information or else remove the images). Can this be addressed quickly? --] (]) 00:43, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

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== I filed a complaint about you and Harlan ==


The third round of the 2023 WikiCup has come to an end. The 16 users who made it to the fourth round had at least 175 points. Our top scorers in round 3 were:
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*{{flagicon image|Flag of Mars.svg|link=Mars}} ], with 919 points from a featured article on ] as well as five good articles and many reviews,
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*{{flagicon image|Royal standard of England (1406–1603).svg|link=Dual monarchy of England and France}} ], with 862 points from a high-scoring featured articles on ] and numerous reviews,
*{{flagicon|Byzantine Empire}} ], with 560 points from a high-scoring featured article on ].


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I'm aware of your innumerable contributions, which is why I came to you for help. I was hoping to know what you could tell me about Ian Bickerton. --] (]) 16:06, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
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:Thanks for the compliment! :)
:I just wanted to get general info on him in anticipation for oppositions against his use as a source (sigh). Nothing specific though, so thanks for your help. Cheers. --] (]) 16:34, 9 February 2010 (UTC)


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:I just read it, it is beautifully done and so are your other contributions. ] (]) 17:30, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
::Thanks for your edits, you are a great contributer no doubt, but just a word a caution. I too was involved in conflict related articles and still do sometimes but managed never ever to get blocked or to be taken for any disiplinary actions. Reason number #1, I dont take Misplaced Pages too seriously, it is what it is a unreliable page of information that needs to be treated with caustion by anyone reading it. Especially for or current political events and definitions,[REDACTED] is not the place journalists and decison makers come to before making their minds but for history, archeology and other related information[REDACTED] is a good place to create knowledge based on facts that will travel around the world. Rule # 2, Try to find common ground with the so called "enemy" and things will always be calmer when you have two saner points of view about anything. Just my 2 cents. ] (]) 19:08, 15 February 2010 (UTC)


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:::Thank you for your thoughts. I thought I had learned to take Wiipedia less seriously, but I guess I haven't. Its kind of against my nature anyway, as I am a rather serious person by nature. Wish I had more of a sense of humour or the ability to let things go sometimes ... I'm working on it. Its getting abit better as I age ... like a fine wine losing its tartness.
:::Admittedly, my own actions helped to get me blocked. However, two of the admins who blocked me early on in my editing career later admitted to me that they probably wouldn't have if they had the chance to do it again. That doesn't count for much now, since I have a long block record. My last block was over two years ago though. I stupidly lost track of things yesterday. I think the block I was given was excessive, but like I said, I was edit-warring and accept that I should not have been. You are right that if I adopted your philosophy that a page can be f_cked up without me having to save it. It can survive imperfection and I can save myself headaches and future blocks. I'm going to try to live by that in the future.
:::About your last piece of advice, I do try to find common ground, but I've encountered a lot of hostility, put downs, and general racism because I proudly self-identify as Palestinian. Some people can't accept that Palestinians exist (as you can see by the IP's edits I brought attention to below). I'm had my user page vandalized with very racist and offensive comments before. I've also had very alid arguments rooted in policy dismissed simply because its me that's making them. I do manage to carry on some civil relationships with a few people with whom I disagree strongly on politics. But its unfortunately not a big a number as I would like. Still, I will try to friendlier in the future. Its hard though when you feel that certain people do not accept your right to be who you are. But I'll try to smile through it, or at least ignore it more in the future. ]<sup>]</sup> 19:22, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
::::About people are watching you all the time. My count went up by three after I posted on your talk page :)) what I am trying to say is that most assuming good faith are normal people but there are few who would want to you silenced. I had and still have people who would want me gone and are watching me constantly. rule #3 is to get your opposition to agree to a set of rules. ] helped me do that. Your issues are 100 times more complicated than what I faced which was a bunch of persistant vandals. So I am not sure our ] strategy would work but it is worth a try. ] (]) 20:21, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
:::::Yes, I noticed the number of watchers the other day. Sometimes it gives me stage fright. :) I really appreciate your empathy. I will take another look at ]. SebastianHelm helped up to set up ], but its served more as place where editors continue to battle out discussions happening elsewhere, rather than a place where agreements are made on protocols that would help improve the overall editing environment. Perhaps a reiew of what you all did there would provide some fresh perspectives. Thanks again for all your advice and encouragement Taprobanus. Take care, ]<sup>]</sup> 20:41, 15 February 2010 (UTC)


*{{flagicon|New York (state)}} ], with 2173 points topping the scores, gained mainly from a featured article, 38 good articles and 9 DYKs. He was followed by
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*{{flagicon image|Transgender Pride flag.svg|link=Transgender}} ], with 1575 points, gained mainly from a featured article, 28 good articles and 50 good article reviews. Close behind was
*{{flagicon image|Flag of Mars.svg|link=Mars}} ], with 1535 points mainly gained from a featured article, 15 good articles, 26 good article reviews and lots of bonus points.


Between them during round 4, contestants achieved 12 featured articles, 3 featured lists, 3 featured pictures, 126 good articles, 46 DYK entries, 14 ITN entries, 67 featured article candidate reviews and 147 good article reviews. Congratulations to our eight finalists and all who participated! It was a generally high-scoring and productive round and I think we can expect a highly competitive finish to the competition.
congratulations on your new barnstar. it is well deserved. by the way, peace is coming to the region which we both hold so important. feel free to take a look at some of the entries on recent joint economic efforts. see you! --] (]) 20:08, 10 February 2010 (UTC)


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It is sad the conflict that goes in the holyland, yes Ill be sure if i find out realible sources for articles in that portal I will add them.
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:I suppose I'll follow that suggestion. On the other hand how can I get more evidence on Megaidler? BTW You don't have to keep that article on watch, it really isn't necessary and it would take up your time. --] (]) 17:04, 12 February 2010 (UTC)
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::Alright then. I'll see what Nableezy can dig up. Thanks for your help Tiamut. --] (]) 17:14, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

== Occupied Territory ==

My bad on that article - when I saw the edit I thought the IP had added the "from Jordan", not deleted it. ] (]) 01:28, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

== ] ==

Your edit warring is really out of line. You know very well that you are making a controversial edit and that it will be met with disagreement by other editors. We started the process appropriately, following ] and discussing on talk. Unfortunately, you quickly abandoned that course and made a joke of the discussion by posting your justification and making your edit immediately, assuming that you would have the final say in the matter. It really is discouraging to see a veteran editor behaving in such a manner. ] (]) 22:23, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

:I'm not edit-warring. I made change which you rejected, reverting to your preferred version. Nalbeezy made a bold change, which you reverted back to your preferred version. I made another change with a compromise formulation after I posted it on talk. I presume you are angry because if you revert that change, you will up to three reverts, and I haven't made any reverts yet. That's not my problem, that's your problem. Please indicate what is wrong with the version I proposed on talk. Thank you. ]<sup>]</sup> 22:28, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
::You really show your failure to understand the D of BRD with this last post. Cheers, ] (]) 22:36, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
:::I am discussing. And being bold by introducing new changes. Which I continue to discuss. BRD is a guideline by the way. NPOV is a policy. Try abiding by it sometime. ]<sup>]</sup> 22:37, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
:::: Tiamut, it appears that you are engaged in edit wars in more than one article, all related to Israeli-Pelstinian conflict subjects. My suggestion, as these subjects will remain cotroversial and heated, perhaps move to less controversial subjects for a while. I am doing so myself and it's quite rewarding in the long term. ] (]) 23:41, 14 February 2010 (UTC) Another note: being bold is OK, but perhaps not in controversial issues... ] (]) 23:44, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
:::::That's very funny John Hyams. Perhaps you want to follow your own advice, given that you have made bold changes to two "controversial" articles and continued to make those changes even after they were protested. In fact, you are edit-warring with me at two articles. I didn't revert your last deletion of material from ] so as to stop that edit war. It worked. You got your way and the edit war was stopped. congratulations. ]<sup>]</sup> 23:54, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
::::::No, I'm still waiting for other editors to participate, they may accept your view (that's why I placed the tag in that section, for you). That's the whole point of resolving disputes on content. I guess you think "I won" because you had no more reverts left (and I may go to the administrators board and complain). But our little fight took place on one page, while I see you have other disputes elsewhere. It's OK, you're a pro-Palestinian writer and it's 100% fine by me, I just wish that we as writers from each side of the political rainbow could work on something together. I am a flexible person, sometimes. ] (]) 00:22, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
::::::John Hyams, you are waiting for other editors to participated after you successfully removed the content that had been there for some time. I got blocked because I (quite stupidly) reverted your additions of the material you removed from ] to ]. But you should not have added that material in the first place, since as I stated to you more than once, it was already in the ] article and your edits therefore introduced redundant material to that article that should have remined in ]. No matter though. I can accept responsibility for my actions. In the future, I won't be so quick to remove redundant information, even if it means the article is left in poorer shape because of it. ]<sup>]</sup> 17:16, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

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Please respond to this ] ] (]) 03:01, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

==Casualty Information at Israeli-Palestinian Conflict==

Hello Tiamut -- You've got a lot more experience with Israel/Palestine articles than I do, so I wanted to ask your advice on this...

Basically, I noticed that the ] for the ] do not include (euphemism alert...) "non-violent excess deaths" such as people dying because their ambulances were stopped at roadblocks, starvation due to blockades, infections resulting from bombed out water-treatment facilities, etc.

Most dictionary definitions of the word ''casualty'' include sickness, or harm resulting from an action, not necessarily related to violence, for instance:

* ''One that is harmed or eliminated as a result of an action or a circumstance'' -- American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition, 2009
* ''any person, group, thing, etc., that is harmed or destroyed as a result of some act or event'' -- Random House Dictionary, 2010.

So I feel that the inclusion of civilian casualties that result from food blockades, etc. is warranted.

Do you know of any international organizations that have put out studies which estimate the numbers of preventable deaths in Palestine each year, as a result of the Israeli occupation? I was looking through and trying to find something, but could only find a few things about ambulances being attacked and stopped during "]". Any ideas?

Do you feel like this should be added in a different part of the article? Or not at all?

Thanks,
-- ] (]) 04:36, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

:Hi Jrtayloriv. I hope you are checking my talk page, as since I've been blocked, I won't be able to respond on yours.
:I think you have raised an important point. I looked around for some statistics and information and found the following:
* A ] report from August 2007 notes that "The greatest number of deaths, resulting from
denial of access to medical facilities occurred in 2001 and 2002 when 74% of the 46 deaths for this reason occurred. The number has dropped since
then to between 0-4 deaths per year." Of these, 4 were women who died at a result of having to give birth at checkpoints.
* A list of "Palestinians who died following an infringement of the right to medical treatment in the Occupied Territories" from ] covering the period from 2000 to 2008. There is no total given, but each case is listed and the total can be added together. Its good for providing information on each individual case.
* A Canadian newspaper report of how people in Gaza are dying from lack of medical care, a situation that has worsened significantly as a result of the ] and the ] which, "damaged 15 of Gaza’s 27 hospitals, and 43 of its 110 primary health-care facilities were either damaged or destroyed."
* A report by the Al Mezan Center for Human Rights from April 2009 notes, "Over 41 Gazans have died for reasons that can be owed to the collapse of the referral process in the last year, while the health of hundreds of Gazan patients' is deteriorating rapidly. This is the consequence of continued conflict between the political powers in the OPT as well as the Israeli government, and the lack of their respect for the lives of Palestinian civilians and their right to health. The majority of the 41 deaths were results of the delays in, or failure to, permit the patients access to hospitals in Israel and/or the West Bank."
:I hope these sources prove useful to you. When I return to editing, I will try to help out in adding them to relevant articles. I'll also post any updates here that I find before then, so keep an eye out. Happy editing. ]<sup>]</sup> 17:11, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

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:My bad. I would have self-reverted if I had been aware of having crossed the line, but I was still edit-warring. A week is a long time though, considering my last block was more than two years ago. Funny that the filing editor, User:Drork, reported for 3RR just two days after being blocked for it, got off with only a warning. So much for consistency. Gotta love Misplaced Pages, and I do, so I accept the sanction. I'll try to do better in the future. See you in a week. ]<sup>]</sup> 11:07, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
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::Hmm, shockingly inconsistent, as noted. The cheek involved in Drork's filing a report against you at all given his luck in getting away with stuff over the last few days is something special as well. Anyway, you've taken it well - I guess sometimes it's just not worth getting too worked up about this sort of thing really. It's all too predictable, if nothing else. Enjoy the break .. <small>''']''' ''']/]'''</small> 14:19, 16 February 2010 (UTC)
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:::Thanks N-HH (the new name is nice by the way. I hope it serves you well). Time and again, my experience here is that editors viewed as "pro-Palestinian" (even if they are not, as was the case for you, G-Dett, Nishidani, Meteormaker, and Pedrito) get held to a far higher standard than those who are quite obviously (and disruptively) "pro-Israeli". There have been enough cases where I've seen draconian judgements passed down to former group, while the latter gets wrist slaps for much worse offenses. Thus, I've sort of resigned myself to the idea that systems in the virtual world pretty accurately emulate those of real life, where traditionally, underdogs tend to get the short end of the stick. Perhaps that's why my response this time around is so subdued.
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:::I've thought a lot about whether or not I want to continue contributing to this system (and the real life one), despite its obvious biases and double standards. Sometimes I think its not worth it and that for all I give, I just get a lot of headaches in return. But like ] (btw, have you seen his user page? its pretty damn cool), I don't want to see Misplaced Pages dominated by systemic bias, and if all the underdogs dropped out, this would just be another ethnocentric, hypercapitalist, hegemonic, might-makes-right source, rather than what is was designed to be: an encyclopedia written by the people, for the people. I think I've made some valuable contributions towards that end, and for the time being, I'd like to continue doing so. But if at some point I am permanently blocked, I do believe it will be Misplaced Pages's loss, not mine. Chasing away core content editors by treating them like common vandals will soon leave it without such editors, and its upon our free labour that this resource survives. I can always write somewhere else, though I will admittedly always miss what Wiki could have been Anyway, take care of yourself N-HH. ]<sup>]</sup> 15:14, 16 February 2010 (UTC)
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::::Well, I wanted to hide my real name behind the initials a bit more. I'd been meaning to do it for ages, but never got round to it. I think that when it comes to "enforcement" it's more about genuinely random inconsistency - on another day, and with a different admin passing by, the situation could have been reversed. However, as far as content goes, as you point out, there is a genuine bias. On I-P issues - as with everything else - Misplaced Pages inevitably follows the dominant pattern of the debate in the US and the wider Anglosphere, where the discourse is very skewed, in the former particularly so, for all sorts of reasons. As I never tire of pointing out, and as of course you're aware, how many Palestinians regularly edit here? Compare that with the number of Israeli and especially American editors, whose contributions will naturally reflect the nature of the debate as it happens in those countries. Not all of them take the "Likud" view of course by any means, or even the supposedly softer Labor view, and maybe most of them don't even have much of a conscious political angle at all, but it hardly makes for a balanced global perspective on these issues. <small>''']''' ''']/]'''</small> 18:21, 16 February 2010 (UTC)
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::::About your other point, I agree wholeheartedly. I don't know any Palestinian editors here who live in the West Bank or Gaza. The only other Palestinian editor I know is Al Ameer son and he grew up inside the borders of modern day Israel and now lives in the States. The two of us aren't even really representative of Palestinians in general, being somewhat "Westernized" by our experiences. ]<sup>]</sup> 19:51, 16 February 2010 (UTC)
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So, I hope this is not unwelcome, and delete this if it is, but... you do realize why the editors you name above were punished, right? It wasn't because they were "pro-Palesitnian" (although, do you really think they weren't?). It was to provide cover for pretty extreme sanctions against Jayjg, taking tools away from him there was no evidence he had ever abused. Now, I'm not asking you to fall in love with Jayjg, but I wonder, if you can set aside your passion for the subect for a moment: do you really think that was just? I myself defended editors who have made edits that really, really make me unhappy, and that I think are wrong on many different levels. That doesn't change that fact that I think they are valuable. There is no cabal against Palesinian friendly editors. Nor is there one against Israel-friendly editors. There ''is'' an idea on the part of some folks to have people on both sides STFU and play nice. And to make that happen, they will impose more or less random sanctions and blocks. I would invite you to contest those, even against editors you hate, if you think they are unfair. Does that makes sense to you? <font color="green">]</font> 02:27, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
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::::::Thannks for your thought IronDuke. Of course I see things completely differently. The West Bank/Judea Samaria case was one where a groups of editors were adding a nationalistic POV descriptor to mutliple pages, despite the undue nature of these additions, representing as they do fringe terminology for the area in question - on the other side, a motley crew of five editors not from the region in question, and without a serious stake in the wording used beyond its obvious inappopriateness when judged against Wiki guidlines, too it upon themselves to try and stop this. While every one of them has their names included in the case, many of the J&S pushers did not (and got aay scot free) and it turned out that at least two of the editors listed were socks of an account that was previously topic banned from editing I-P articles because of their difficulties editing collaboratively with others.
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:::::::I will say that I don't hate anyone here (though I do admittedly sometimes hate certain actions and arguments). I don't really want to elaborate further on my thoughts regarding the rest of your comments, except to say that if I ever did see an editor with whom I disagree content-wise unfairly sanctioned, I would say something. ]<sup>]</sup> 09:15, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
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:::::::::Thanks for the thoughtful reply. I'd only reiterate that however unfair it was that pro-Palestinian editors got sanctioned and not enough pro-Israel ones did (which I can't say I agree with, but taking it as read) this just underscores my point: it didn't matter whether the outcome was "fair," nor did it matter whether the content ended up reflecting the consensus of RS's, which is why it didn't matter that not all editors on the pro-I side of things got sanctioned. The case (which was about a pretty minor issue, don't you think?) was ''all'' about Jayjg. Sanctions against pro-P editors were necessary to project an image of balance. Adding pro-I editors wasn't necessary to achieve that. You see what I'm saying? "Process" gets a bad name here, but I wish there were more outrage on the part of pro-P editors regarding the deeply flawed process in this case. That's why I argued against NHH's ban. Not because I was thrilled with his editing -- indeed, I was quite mad at him for a while -- but because his punishment was ludicrously out of scale with his supposed crimes. That's just not right, and it hurts Misplaced Pages to run it that way. Anway, enough of my ranting. Thanks again. <font color="green">]</font> 00:44, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
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:::::::: I just want to say that I am one of the few editors here who has occasionally stuck up for those on the other side, on a few occasions. with that said, I don't see any anti-Palestinian bias here. Quite the contrary. Hiowever, you should realize that much of what Misplaced Pages publishes is not based on biased sources as you allege, but rather based on notable media outlets, many of which are notable newspapers in the Western world. Hence they reflect much of the mainstream narrative. part of that includes not ascribing all blame to Israel if occasionally some Palestinian commmunities were impinged or even displaced; but rather seeing this as two comparable communities who have been wrangling over the same area for generations; not just since 1945 as many Paesltinians allege, but rather for centuries, going back to the era underr Turkish rule and probably earlier than that. --] (]) 15:47, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

== To anyone watching this page ... ==

is removing the word "Palestinian", "Palestinians" or "Palestinian people" from various articles. The latest edit of this kind is . Please note that the sources cited use these words specifically and should be respected. Thanks. ]<sup>]</sup> 18:06, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
: Fixed, along with several other inaccurate/inappropriate edits -- thanks for reporting. ] (]) 19:01, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
:Despite a complete lack of consensus for the proposed move, and despite the fact that the name of the country in question is ], ] has moved ] to ]. ( for the "rationale") The AfD discussion for this page noted that whether one believed Palestine was a state or not, that the country deserved coverage and there was a general consensus that the country's name was Palestine. I am quite amazed by this move and sad to see it happen while I am blocked so that I cannot protest it myself. Note that ] states clearly, "If there is a clear consensus after this time, the request will be closed and acted upon. If not, the closer may choose to re-list the request to allow time for consensus to develop, or close it as "no consensus"." Those who believe this move was closed inappropriately are asked to request the closing admin to reverse their decision. At most, the discussion should have been relisted, but the clear lack of consensus should more likely have led to a close with no consensus. ]<sup>]</sup> 18:42, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
: I'll try to see what I can do -- thanks again. ] (]) 19:01, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
::Thank you. Though I've seen it a million times before, I will never stop being shocked by how standard Wiki protocols are repeatedly ignored when it comes to the issue of Palestine. The virtual world emulates real life it seems. ]<sup>]</sup> 19:08, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
:::Someone should pass on to Nableezy that he should consider adding to the . ]<sup>]</sup> 19:33, 16 February 2010 (UTC)
::::I think that one is guaranteed, but there is nothing that IPs edits that shows abusive sockpuppetry. <small style="border: 1px solid;padding:1px 3px;white-space:nowrap">''']''' - 19:38, 16 February 2010 (UTC)</font></small>
:::::I guess not. Anyway, I noticed there are more IPs involved in reverting at the article in question since you filed your report. Those should be added too. Take care, ]<sup>]</sup> 19:43, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

Can someone tell that I am currently blocked and so I won't be able to fix the two images in ] soon? Anyone who knows how to fix them is welcome to try, or alternatively to remove the two that are causing problems. Once this is done, the article can be promoted to GA status. Help would be deeply appricated as I worked on it a lot before being blocke and would hate to lose the promotion over those images. Thanks. ]<sup>]</sup> 14:36, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

:I hope meets your needs.--] (]) 15:07, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

::Thanks for letting him know. I hope he accepts removing them himsel or waiting until I come back. If not, perhaps someone else can remove the pics? I don't how to bring them up to par so that they can stay. But if someone knows how to do that (if its possible) that would be even better. But thanks for at least passing message along. ]<sup>]</sup> 15:47, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

:::Well, he has posted which suggests he will do something appropriate.--] (]) 16:01, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

::::Thanks Peter. Finger crossed. Happy editing. ]<sup>]</sup> 16:50, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

== Unblock request ==

{{tlx|unblock|I do not contest that I was edit-warring, and for that I am sorry. My block was set for a week, because I've been blocked for edit-warring four times before, but I would note that my last block was over two years ago. Having sat out this block for two days now, I would like to request an unblock so that I can go back to back editing. I am participating in WikiCup and an article I have been working on for some time (]) was just promoted to GA status. I'd like to continue participating in that event and editing in general. Would it possible to reduce this block to time served? Thanks in advance for considering this request. ]<sup>]</sup> 00:06, 18 February 2010 (UTC)}}

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::::: Talk about the pot calling the kettle black! ]<sup><small>]</small></sup> 01:14, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
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::::::It was a bad joke. Sorry about that. Nice to know you're one of the 107 people watching this page though. ]<sup>]</sup> 18:11, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
:::::::No follow-backs! ] (]) 18:19, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

::::::::The thing is thta Tiamut takes part in the Wikicup has contributed over 50 DYKs and several GAs. On the other side of the debate Jayjg has contributed several GAs and FAs. The community is a lot more tolerant of editors who do contribute high-quality work in between their edit-warring than it is of ones who just edit war.--] (]) 19:48, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

== Outline of Palestine ==

Thank you for your message. I understand your frustration. I've been trying to stay out of the debates about Palestine, and my comments about the Outline were based only on my understanding of policy. It may be that ] is a non-starter, but try to be creative. ] (with a lower-case s) or ] might be acceptable alternatives.

I wish I could be more helpful. I'm sorry. —&nbsp;]&nbsp;<sup>]</sup>/<sub>]</sub> 20:03, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

== Thanks ==

Nice work on ] article :)] (]) 22:12, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

:Actually I'm really eager to update and/or improve the article pretty much, it's just a matter of time. It's 00:44 Cairo time now :)] (]) 22:44, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

::Nazareth? Are you Israeli?] (]) 22:48, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

:::Oh I know of course, and I know that you are, was just a little bit confused as you talk English almost perfectly. And tell me about them, I am ] so I am totally aware of this. Shame. Well, I think you could me if you want something or a freetalk. You know, ]] (]) 12:19, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

::::That's creditable... Wish you luck. Thank you for your contrib's and your kind messages =) Nice talk there ;)] (]) 17:48, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

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... against a rather odd vandalism . Thanks. --] (]) 11:26, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

== it's soooooo cold up here.... ==

Hello my dear,
My break was wonderful..I am just trying to get used to a temperature which is 30 degees celcius lower than last week.. :-(

And my Mac doesn't like the cold better than me: it went on strike; I now have it in for repairs (I might have to buy a new one; it is getting old)...which means that at the moment I am getting by on a cheap little pc...which hurt to use, if I type too much.. In other words; I'm moving in second gear for the next week or so.

I *migh* go away, again, before the summer, but probably not for more than 3-4 weeks.

So; how are you?? I see you are doing great work (as usual!) I especially loved the pictures/ expansion on ]...oh, and I'm trying to get Ash to get a commons-cat. on each of the -48-villages; with a subset of the different maps...

Also: a long time-ambition of mine was to expand the ] & the ]-articles: there were several detailed books written about the case..in the local language (..which I read..)..which I could use. I was thinking about it, because also in that case there was a lot of discussion about the passports of innocent (?) real people which the assassins had used...Some things do not change.

Again, love to see you around, cheers, ] (]) 18:00, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
:I think Jerusalem must be one of the most photographed places on the planet; tons of pictures over at commons..~Very nice shrine, btw; I love that type of Mamluk roof. (Also nice to see that his French 1876 book -which le Strange referred to- is fully available on the net.)
:Btw, : I would love to expand ]..lots in Petersen about the 6-7-800 year old shrine...and we have pictures on commons! Cheers, ] (]) 19:42, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

==Question==
I saw the talk page on Avigdor Lieberman, and the dispute going on there. I am not going to question anything you say, I do not want to start anything at all. I am just curious in your sources for HAMAS and their apparent differences in opinion as to their true mission- we were taught in class that their mission is essentially to completely destroy Israel as a Jewish state (which may be the difference of wordage in the dispute aforementioned). We were given a quote, which was quoted out of context, that said that HAMAS intended to create an Islamic nation from "the river Jordan to the sea". I am unsure if this is correct, after seeing what you have said. Of course, I am also taking your own views (IE, the Right of Return) into account, but I am interested in hearing your side of this, and bringing forward these sources to my teacher. I am rather annoyed at his choice of assignment, and I would love nothing better than to surprise him when I bring forth my arguments. :) ] (]) 11:18, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
:Thanks much for replying, although I don't know how to email you. I would if I knew how. I'm going to read your source later tonight. Mostly, I think the reason that he teaches us that about HAMAS is that the organization as a whole was founded on those principles, regardless of what direction it's moved in. Also, he said something about the word the HAMAS interviewee used to describe the 'truce' that he would offer Israel in return for the Right of Return, 1967 Borders, and an end to settlements, which was translated as 'temporary truce', or 'ceasefire'. (He is teaching us about national interest- essentially, in this sense, HAMAS is offering only a temporary truce in return for EVERYTHING Israel holds dear in their national interest- or that's what it boiled down to according to him.) In any case, I look forward to further contact with you. ] (]) 18:40, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
::He hasn't actually, but then he is rather biased. :) I must admit I used to be as well, but I'm trying to learn about the world around me. In any case, I'm stupid. I can't figure out how to email you, so I enabled mine. Please email me so I can receive your address, and then I will email you back. Sorry I'm so stupid. T_T <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 19:15, 23 February 2010 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:::Ah, thanks! ] (]) 19:47, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

== Village Statistics 1945 ==

Hi, please see my comment with the same heading on ]. ]<sup><small>]</small></sup> 05:10, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
== ] ==
Thanks for continuing to be involved. I fear this may cause much debate. ] (]) 15:07, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

== WP:A/E ==

Thanks for the note. —&nbsp;]&nbsp;<sup>]</sup>/<sub>]</sub> 19:25, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

== Greek Orthodox Church of the Annunciation ==

No problem. —&nbsp;]&nbsp;<sup>]</sup>/<sub>]</sub> 22:07, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

== Mehola junction bombing ==

Hi, The Mehola junction bombing was in 1993. I'm looking at a newspaper archive that shows dozens of newspaper reports from 17 April 1993 onwards. The place where you got 1994 must be wrong. Incidentally, while I was looking I found a JP article from years later that placed the Mehola junction bombing in 1992! There are no relevant newspaper articles from April 1994. ]<sup><small>]</small></sup> 02:49, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

== You have been reported for edit war ==

See here:] ] (]) 07:35, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
:Please see the result at ], since your past record of blocks for edit warring is mentioned there. If you make any more 3RR violations on articles related to Palestine, a sanction under ] is possible. ] (]) 20:10, 28 February 2010 (UTC)


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"I am a Palestinian. Hath not a Palestinian eyes? Hath not a Palestinian hands, organs, dimensions, senses, affections, passions? Fed with the same food, hurt with the same weapons, subject to the same diseases, healed by the same means, warmed and cooled by the same winter and summer, as a Jew is? If you prick us, do we not bleed? If you tickle us, do we not laugh? If you poison us do we not die? And if you wrong us, shall we not revenge? If we are like you in the rest, we will resemble you in that -- the villainy you teach me, I will execute; and it shall go hard but I will better the instruction."
Tariq Ali's take on Shakespeare in the Khaleej Times

"It is not enough for the settler to delimit physically, that is to say with the help of the army and the police force, the place of the native. As if to show the totalitarian character of colonial exploitation the settler paints the native as a sort of quintessence of evil ... The native knows all this ... he knows that he is not an animal, and it is precisely at the moment he realizes his humanity that he begins to sharpen the weapons with which he will secure his victory.
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Stephan Hanna Stephan

Is it true that we don't have an article on Stephan Hanna Stephan? We need one. That thesis of Sarah Irving you cited and some others of her publications would be a good start. Zero 07:34, 1 May 2021 (UTC)

See User:Tiamut/St H Stephan. I started it yesterday. Tiamut 08:30, 1 May 2021 (UTC)

WikiCup 2021 May newsletter

The second round of the 2021 WikiCup has now finished; it was a high-scoring round and contestants needed 61 points to advance to Round 3. There were some impressive efforts in the round, with the top eight contestants all scoring more than 400 points. A large number of the points came from the 12 featured articles and the 110 good articles achieved in total by contestants, as well as the 216 good article reviews they performed; the GAN backlog drive and the stay-at-home imperative during the COVID-19 pandemic may have been partially responsible for these impressive figures.

Our top scorers in Round 2 were:

  • Botswana The Rambling Man, with 2963 points from three featured articles, 20 featured article reviews, 37 good articles, 73 good article reviews, as well as 22 DYKs.
  • New York (state) Epicgenius, with 1718 points from one featured article, 29 good articles, 16 DYKs and plenty of bonus points.
  • Republic of Venice Bloom6132, with 990 points from 13 DYKs and 64 "In the news" items, mostly recent deaths.
  • Hog Farm, with 834 points from two featured articles, five good articles, 14 featured article reviews and 15 good article reviews.
  • England Gog the Mild, with 524 points from two featured articles and four featured article reviews.
  • England Lee Vilenski, with 501 points from one featured article, three good articles, six featured article reviews and 25 good article reviews.
  • Sammi Brie, with 485 points from four good articles, eight good article reviews and 27 DYKs, on US radio and television stations.
  • Ktin, with 436 points from four good articles, seven DYKs and 11 "In the news" items.

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Welcome back

Ahlan was sahlan Tiamut. Glad to see you are back and not missing a beat! Looking forward to your new contributions and collaborating again in the near future. --Al Ameer (talk) 16:34, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

Ahlan feek User:Al Ameer son. Good to see you still here and it would be my pleasure. Tiamut 16:44, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

And another welcome back from me, and good to see you contributing as prolifically as before ... except I'm worried at your ominous silence for the last 10 days, given all the horrors that are going on in Israel/Palestine right now. Anyway, best wishes for now. --NSH001 (talk) 19:21, 16 May 2021 (UTC)

I am fine. But cannot contribute right now. Hope to again soon. Much love. Tiamut 12:35, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

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DYK for Stephan Hanna Stephan

On 15 June 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Stephan Hanna Stephan, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the government radio station in Mandatory Palestine had an Arab Hour in the late 1930s hosting Palestinian writers like Stephan Hanna Stephan? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Stephan Hanna Stephan. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Stephan Hanna Stephan), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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The Bugle: Issue CLXXXII, June 2021

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WikiCup 2021 July newsletter

The third round of the 2021 WikiCup has now come to an end. Each of the sixteen contestants who made it into the fourth round had at least 294 points, and our top six scorers all had over 600 points. They were:

  • Botswana The Rambling Man, with 1825 points from 3 featured articles, 44 featured article reviews, 14 good articles, 30 good article reviews and 10 DYKs. In addition, he completed a 34-article good topic on the EFL Championship play-offs.
  • New York (state) Epicgenius, a New York specialist, with 1083 points from 2 featured article reviews, 18 good articles, 30 DYKs and plenty of bonus points.
  • Republic of Venice Bloom6132, with 869 points from 11 DYKs, all with bonus points, and 54 "In the news" items, mostly covering people who had recently died.
  • England Gog the Mild, with 817 points from 3 featured articles on historic battles in Europe, 5 featured article reviews and 3 good articles.
  • Hog Farm, with 659 points from 2 featured articles and 2 good articles on American Civil War battles, 18 featured article reviews, 2 good articles, 6 good article reviews and 4 DYKs.
  • Zulu (International Code of Signals) BennyOnTheLoose, a snooker specialist and new to the Cup, with 647 points from a featured article, 2 featured article reviews, 6 good articles, 6 good article reviews and 3 DYKs.

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The Bugle: Issue CLXXXIII, July 2021

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The Bugle: Issue CLXXXIV, August 2021

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WikiCup 2021 September newsletter

The fourth round of the competition has finished with over 500 points being required to qualify for the final round. It was a hotly competitive round with two contestants, Botswana The Rambling Man and New York (state) Epicgenius, each scoring over 3000 points, and six contestants scoring over 1000. All but one of the finalists achieved one or more FAs during the round, the exception being Republic of Venice Bloom6132 who demonstrated that 61 "in the news" items produces an impressive number of points. Other contestants who made it to the final are Gog the Mild, England Lee Vilenski, Zulu (International Code of Signals) BennyOnTheLoose, Rwanda Amakuru and Hog Farm. However, all their points are now swept away and everyone starts afresh in the final round.

Round 4 saw the achievement of 18 featured articles and 157 good articles. George Floyd mural Bilorv scored for a 25-article good topic on Black Mirror but narrowly missed out on qualifying for the final round. There was enthusiasm for FARs, with 89 being performed, and there were 63 GARs and around 100 DYKs during the round. As we start round 5, we say goodbye to the eight competitors who didn't quite make it to the final round; thank you for the useful contributions you have made to the Cup and Misplaced Pages, and we hope you will join us again next year. For other contestants, remember that any content promoted after the end of round 4 but before the start of round 5 can be claimed in round 5. Remember too that you must claim your points within 14 days of "earning" them.

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The Bugle: Issue CLXXXV, September 2021

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The Bugle: Issue CLXXV, October 2021

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WikiCup 2021 November newsletter

The WikiCup is over for another year and the finalists can relax! Our Champion this year is Botswana The Rambling Man (submissions), who amassed over 5000 points in the final round, achieving 8 featured articles and almost 500 reviews. It was a very competitive round; seven of the finalists achieved over 1000 points in the round (enough to win the 2019 contest), and three scored over 3000 (enough to win the 2020 event). Our 2021 finalists and their scores were:

  1. Botswana The Rambling Man (submissions) with 5072 points
  2. England Lee Vilenski (submissions) with 3276 points
  3. Rwanda Amakuru (submissions) with 3197 points
  4. New York (state) Epicgenius (submissions) with 1611 points
  5. Gog the Mild (submissions) with 1571 points
  6. Zulu (International Code of Signals) BennyOnTheLoose (submissions) with 1420 points
  7. Hog Farm (submissions) with 1043 points
  8. Republic of Venice Bloom6132 (submissions) with 528 points

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The Bugle: Issue CLXXVI, November 2021

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Welcome to the 2022 WikiCup!

Happy New Year and Happy New WikiCup! The 2022 competition has just begun and all article creators, expanders, improvers and reviewers are welcome to take part. Even if you are a novice editor you should be able to advance to at least the second round, improving your editing skills as you go. If you have already signed up, your submissions page can be found here. If you have not yet signed up, you can add your name here and the judges will set up your submissions page. Any questions on the rules or on anything else should be directed to one of the judges, or posted to the WikiCup talk page. Signups will close at the end of January, and the first round will end on 26 February; the 64 highest scorers at that time will move on to round 2. The judges for the WikiCup this year are: Sturmvogel 66 (talk · contribs · email) and Cwmhiraeth (talk · contribs · email). Good luck! MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 14:37, 5 January 2022 (UTC)

Welcome to the 2022 WikiCup!

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The Bugle: Issue CLXXVIII, January 2022

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The Bugle: Issue CLXXVIV, February 2022

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WikiCup 2022 March newsletter

And so ends the first round of the WikiCup. Last year anyone who scored more than zero points moved on to Round 2, but this was not the case this year, and a score of 13 or more was required to proceed. The top scorers in Round 1 were:

  • New York (state) Epicgenius, a finalist last year, who led the field with 1906 points, gained from 32 GAs and 19 DYKs, all on the topic of New York buildings.
  • Christmas Island AryKun, new to the contest, was second with 1588 points, having achieved 2 FAs, 11 GAs and various other submissions, mostly on the subject of birds.
  • Kingdom of Scotland Bloom6132, a WikiCup veteran, was in third place with 682 points, garnered from 51 In the news items and several DYKs.
  • Philadelphia GhostRiver was close behind with 679 points, gained from achieving 12 GAs, mostly on ice hockey players, and 35 GARs.
  • United Nations Kavyansh.Singh was in fifth place with 551 points, with an FA, a FL, and many reviews.
  • SounderBruce was next with 454 points, gained from an FA and various other submissions, mostly on United States highways.
  • United Nations Ktin, another WikiCup veteran, was in seventh place with 412 points, mostly gained from In the news items.

These contestants, like all the others who qualified for Round 2, now have to start scoring points again from scratch. Between them, contestants completed reviews of a large number of good articles as the contest ran concurrently with a GAN backlog drive. Well done all! To qualify for Round 3, contestants will need to finish Round 2 among the top thirty-two participants.

Remember that any content promoted after the end of Round 1 but before the start of Round 2 can be claimed in Round 2. Anything that should have been claimed for in Round 1 is no longer eligible for points. Invitations for collaborative writing efforts or any other discussion of potentially interesting work is always welcome on the WikiCup talk page. Remember, if two or more WikiCup competitors have done significant work on an article, all can claim points. If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Misplaced Pages:WikiCup/Reviews Needed.

Questions are welcome on Misplaced Pages talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Misplaced Pages:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. Sturmvogel 66 (talk) and Cwmhiraeth (talk) MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 12:07, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CLXXVII, March 2022

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The Bugle: Issue CLXXVIII, April 2022

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WikiCup 2022 May newsletter

The second round of the 2022 WikiCup has now finished. It was a high-scoring round and contestants needed 115 points to advance to round 3. There were some very impressive efforts in round 2, with the top seven contestants all scoring more than 500 points. A large number of the points came from the 11 featured articles and the 79 good articles achieved in total by contestants.

Our top scorers in round 2 were:

  1. New York (state) Epicgenius, with 1264 points from 2 featured article, 4 good articles and 18 DYKs. Epicgenius was a finalist last year but has now withdrawn from the contest as he pursues a new career path.
  2. Christmas Island AryKun, with 1172 points from two featured articles, one good article and a substantial number of featured article and good article reviews.
  3. Kingdom of Scotland Bloom6132, with 605 points from 44 in the news items and 4 DYKs.
  4. Sammi Brie, with 573 points from 8 GAs and 21 DYKs.
  5. Ealdgyth, with 567 points from 11 GAs and 34 good and featured article reviews.
  6. United States Panini!, with 549 points from 1 FA, 4 GAs and several other sources.
  7. England Lee Vilenski, with 545 points from 1 FA, 4 GAs and a number of reviews.

The rules for featured and good article reviews require the review to be of sufficient length; brief quick fails and very short reviews will generally not be awarded points. Remember also that DYKs cannot be claimed until they have appeared on the main page. As we enter the third round, any content promoted after the end of round 2 but before the start of round 3 can be claimed now, and anything you forgot to claim in round 2 cannot! Remember too, that you must claim your points within 14 days of "earning" them. When doing GARs, please make sure that you check that all the GA criteria are fully met.

If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article nominations, a featured process, or anything else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Misplaced Pages:WikiCup/Reviews Needed (remember to remove your listing when no longer required). Questions are welcome on Misplaced Pages talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove your name from Misplaced Pages:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. Sturmvogel 66 (talk) and Cwmhiraeth Cwmhiraeth (talk) 10:39, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CXCIII, May 2022

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The Bugle: Issue CXCIV, June 2022

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WikiCup 2022 July newsletter

The third round of the 2022 WikiCup has now come to an end. Each of the sixteen contestants who made it into the fourth round had at least 180 points, which is a lower figure than last year when 294 points were needed to progress to round 4. Our top scorers in round 3 were:

  • Zulu (International Code of Signals) BennyOnTheLoose, with 746 points, a tally built both on snooker and other sports topics, and on more general subjects.
  • Kingdom of Scotland Bloom6132, with 683 points, garnered mostly from "In the news" items and related DYKs.
  • Sammi Brie, with 527, from a variety of submissions related to radio and television stations.

Between them contestants achieved 5 featured articles, 4 featured lists, 51 good articles, 149 DYK entries, 68 ITN entries, and 109 good article reviews. As we enter the fourth round, remember that any content promoted after the end of round 3 but before the start of round 4 can be claimed in round 4. Please also remember that you must claim your points within 14 days of "earning" them. When doing GARs, please make sure that you check that all the GA criteria are fully met. Please also remember that all submissions must meet core Misplaced Pages policies, regardless of the review process.

If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is a good article nomination, a featured process, or anything else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Misplaced Pages:WikiCup/Reviews Needed (remember to remove your listing when no longer required). Questions are welcome on Misplaced Pages talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove your name from Misplaced Pages:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. WikiCup judges: Sturmvogel 66 (talk) and Cwmhiraeth (talk) MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 12:51, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CXCVI, July 2022

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The Bugle: Issue CXCVII, August 2022

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Wikiproject Military history coordinator election nominations opening soon

Nominations for the upcoming project coordinator election are opening in a few hours (00:01 UTC on 1 September). A team of up to ten coordinators will be elected for the next coordination year. The project coordinators are the designated points of contact for issues concerning the project, and are responsible for maintaining our internal structure and processes. They do not, however, have any authority over article content or editor conduct, or any other special powers. More information on being a coordinator is available here. If you are interested in running, please sign up here by 23:59 UTC on 14 September! Voting doesn't commence until 15 September. If you have any questions, you can contact any member of the current coord team. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 17:52, 31 August 2022 (UTC)

WikiCup 2022 September newsletter

WikiCup 2022 September newsletter

The fourth round of the WikiCup has now finished. 383 points were required to reach the final, and the new round has got off to a flying start with all finalists already scoring. In round 4, Bloom6132 with 939 points was the highest points-scorer, with a combination of DYKs and In the news items, followed by BennyOnTheLoose, Sammi Brie and Lee Vilenski. The points of all contestants are swept away as we start afresh for the final round.

At this stage, we say goodbye to the eight competitors who didn't quite make it; thank you for the useful contributions you have made to the Cup and Misplaced Pages, and we hope you will join us again next year. For the remaining competitors, remember that any content promoted after the end of round 4 but before the start of round 5 can be claimed in round 5. Remember too that you must claim your points within 14 days of "earning" them, and importantly, before the deadline on October 31st!

If you are concerned that your nomination, whether it be for a good article, a featured process, or anything else, will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Misplaced Pages:WikiCup/Reviews Needed (remember to remove your listing when no longer required). If you want to help out with the WikiCup, please do your bit to help keep down the review backlogs! Questions are welcome on Misplaced Pages talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Misplaced Pages:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. The judges are Sturmvogel 66 and Cwmhiraeth. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 12:45, 3 September 2022 (UTC)

Wikiproject Military history coordinator election voting opening soon!

Voting for the upcoming project coordinator election opens in a few hours (00:01 UTC on 15 September) and will last through 23:59 on 28 September. A team of up to ten coordinators will be elected for the next coordination year. The project coordinators are the designated points of contact for issues concerning the project, and are responsible for maintaining our internal structure and processes. They do not, however, have any authority over article content or editor conduct, or any other special powers. More information on being a coordinator is available here. Voting is conducted using simple approval voting and questions for the candidates are welcome. If you have any questions, you can contact any member of the current coord team. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 22:27, 14 September 2022 (UTC)

Correction to previous election announcement

Just a quick correction to the prior message about the 2022 MILHIST coordinator election! I (Hog Farm) didn't proofread the message well enough and left out a link to the election page itself in this message. The voting will occur here; sorry about the need for a second message and the inadvertent omission from the prior one. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 17:42, 15 September 2022 (UTC)

Wikiproject Military history coordinator election voting closing soon

Voting for the upcoming project coordinator election closes soon, at 23:59 on 28 September. A team of up to ten coordinators will be elected for the next coordination year. The project coordinators are the designated points of contact for issues concerning the project, and are responsible for maintaining our internal structure and processes. They do not, however, have any authority over article content or editor conduct, or any other special powers. More information on being a coordinator is available here. Voting is conducted using simple approval voting and questions for the candidates are welcome. The voting itself is occurring here If you have any questions, you can contact any member of the current coord team. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 20:14, 26 September 2022 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CXCVIII, September 2022

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Hi,

We all miss you, ..and could you please check your email onceinawhile? Hugs, Huldra (talk) 23:34, 27 September 2022 (UTC)

ditto sans email. nableezy - 00:39, 28 September 2022 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CXCVIII, October 2022

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WikiCup 2022 November newsletter

The 2022 WikiCup has drawn to a close with the final round going down to the wire. The 2022 champion is

  • England Lee Vilenski (1752 points), who won in 2020 and was runner up in both 2019 and last year. In the final round he achieved 3 FAs and 15 GAs, mostly on cue sports. He was closely followed by
  • Kingdom of Scotland Bloom6132 (1732), who specialised in "In the news" items and DYKs, and who has reached the final round of the Cup for the past three years. Next was
  • Zulu (International Code of Signals) BennyOnTheLoose (1238), another cue sports enthusiast, also interested in songs, followed by
  • New York City Muboshgu (1082), an "In the news" contributor, a seasoned contestant who first took part in the Cup ten years ago. Other finalists were
  • Sammi Brie (930), who scored with a featured article, good articles and DYKs on TV and radio stations,
  • United Nations Kavyansh.Singh (370), who created various articles on famous Americans, including an FA on Louis H. Bean, famed for his prediction of election outcomes. Next was
  • Chicago PCN02WPS (292), who scored with good articles and DYKs on sporting and other topics and
  • Toronto Z1720 (25) who had DYKs on various topics including historic Canadians.

During the WikiCup, contestants achieved 37 featured articles, 349 good articles, 360 featured article reviews, 683 good article reviews and 480 In the news items, so Misplaced Pages has benefited greatly from the activities of WikiCup competitors. Well done everyone! All those who reached the final round will receive awards and the following special awards will be made, based on high performance in particular areas of content creation and review. So that the finalists do not have an undue advantage, these prizes are awarded to the competitor who scored the highest in any particular field in a single round, or the overall leader in this field.

  • England Lee Vilenski wins the featured article prize, for a total of 6 FAs during the course of the competition and 3 in the final round.
  • United Nations Kavyansh.Singh wins the featured list prize, for 3 FLs in round 2.
  • Adam Cuerden wins the featured picture prize, for 39 FPs during the competition.
  • Toronto Z1720 wins the featured article reviewer prize, for 35 FARs in round 4.
  • New York (state) Epicgenius wins the good article prize, for 32 GAs in round 1.
  • SounderBruce wins the featured topic prize, for 4 FT articles in round 1.
  • England Lee Vilenski wins the good topic prize, for 34 GT articles in round 5.
  • Sammi Brie wins the good article reviewer prize, for 71 GARs overall.
  • Sammi Brie wins the Did you know prize, for 30 DYKs in round 3 and 106 overall.
  • Kingdom of Scotland Bloom6132 wins the In the news prize, for 106 ITNs in round 5 and 289 overall.

Next year's competition will begin on 1 January and possible changes to the rules and scoring are being discussed on the discussion page. You are invited to sign up to take part in the contest; the WikiCup is open to all Wikipedians, both novices and experienced editors, and we hope to have a good turnout for the 2023 competition. Until then, it only remains to once again congratulate our worthy winners and finalists, and thank all participants for their involvement! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Misplaced Pages:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. Sturmvogel 66 and Cwmhiraeth. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 19:29, 6 November 2022 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CXCIX, November 2022

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The Bugle: Issue CC, December 2022

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Welcome to the 2023 WikiCup!

Happy New Year and Happy New WikiCup! The 2023 competition has just begun and all article creators, expanders, improvers and reviewers are welcome to take part. Even if you are a novice editor you should be able to advance to at least the second round, improving your editing skills as you go. If you have already signed up, your submissions page can be found here. If you have not yet signed up, you can add your name here and the judges will set up your submissions page ready for you to take part. Any questions on the scoring, rules or anything else should be directed to one of the judges, or posted to the WikiCup talk page. Signups will close at the end of January, and the first round will end on 26 February; the 64 highest scorers at that time will move on to round 2. The judges for the WikiCup this year are: Sturmvogel 66 (talk · contribs · email) and Cwmhiraeth (talk · contribs · email). Good luck! MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 14:16, 1 January 2023 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue 201, January 2023

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The Bugle: Issue 202, February 2023

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WikiCup 2023 March newsletter

So ends the first round of the 2023 WikiCup. Everyone with a positive score moved on to Round 2, with 54 contestants qualifying. The top scorers in Round 1 were:

  • Unlimitedlead with 1205 points, a WikiCup newcomer, led the field with two featured articles on historical figures and several featured article candidate reviews.
  • New York (state) Epicgenius was in second place with 789 points; a seasoned WikiCup competitor he specialises in buildings and locations in New York.
  • Germany FrB.TG was in third place with 625 points, garnered from a featured article on a filmmaker which qualified for an impressive number of bonus points.
  • United States TheJoebro64, another WikiCup newcomer, came next with 600 points gained from two featured articles on video games.
  • Byzantine Empire Iazyges was in fifth place with 532 points, from two featured articles on classical history.

The top sixteen contestants at the end of Round 1 had all scored over 300 points; these included Berkelland LunaEatsTuna, Thebiguglyalien, Sammi Brie, New England Trainsandotherthings, England Lee Vilenski, Indonesia Juxlos, Unexpectedlydian, Washington (state) SounderBruce, Wales Kosack, BennyOnTheLoose and Chicago PCN02WPS. It was a high-scoring start to the competition.

These contestants, like all the others, now have to start again from scratch. The first round finished on February 26. Remember that any content promoted after that date but before the start of Round 2 can be claimed in Round 2. Some contestants made claims before the new submissions pages were set up, and they will need to resubmit them. Invitations for collaborative writing efforts or any other discussion of potentially interesting work is always welcome on the WikiCup talk page. Remember, if two or more WikiCup competitors have done significant work on an article, all can claim points. If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Misplaced Pages:WikiCup/Reviews Needed.

If you want to help out with the WikiCup, please do your bit to keep down the review backlogs! Questions are welcome on Misplaced Pages talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Misplaced Pages:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. Sturmvogel 66 and Cwmhiraeth. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 19:37, 2 March 2023 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue 203, March 2023

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The Bugle: Issue 204, April 2023

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WikiCup 2023 May newsletter

The second round of the 2023 WikiCup has now finished. Contestants needed to have scored 60 points to advance into round 3. Our top five scorers in round 2 all included a featured article among their submissions and each scored over 500 points. They were:

Other notable performances were put in by Sammi Brie, Thebiguglyalien, MyCatIsAChonk, Chicago PCN02WPS, and London AirshipJungleman29.

So far contestants have achieved thirteen featured articles between them, one being a joint effort, and forty-nine good articles. The judges are pleased with the thorough reviews that are being performed, and have hardly had to reject any. As we enter the third round, remember that any content promoted after the end of round 2 but before the start of round 3 can be claimed in round 3. Remember too that you must claim your points within 14 days of "earning" them.

If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article nominations, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Misplaced Pages:WikiCup/Reviews Needed (remember to remove your listing when no longer required). Questions are welcome on Misplaced Pages talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove your name from Misplaced Pages:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. Sturmvogel 66 and Cwmhiraeth. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 08:15, 2 May 2023 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue 205, May 2023

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The Bugle: Issue 205, May 2023

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The Bugle: Issue 206, June 2023

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WikiCup 2023 July newsletter

The third round of the 2023 WikiCup has come to an end. The 16 users who made it to the fourth round had at least 175 points. Our top scorers in round 3 were:

Contestants achieved 11 featured articles, 2 featured lists, 47 good articles, 72 featured or good article reviews, over 100 DYKs and 40 ITN appearances. As always, any content promoted after the end of round 3 but before the start of round 4 can be claimed in round 4. Please also remember that you must claim your points within 14 days of "earning" them. When doing GARs, please make sure that you check that all the GA criteria are fully met. Please also remember that all submissions must meet core Misplaced Pages policies, regardless of the review process.

If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article nominations, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Misplaced Pages:WikiCup/Reviews Needed (remember to remove your listing when no longer required). Questions are welcome on Misplaced Pages talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove your name from Misplaced Pages:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. Sturmvogel 66 (talk) and Cwmhiraeth (talk). MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 15:18, 8 July 2023 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue 207, July 2023

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The Bugle: Issue 208, August 2023

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WikiCup 2023 September newsletter

The fourth round of the competition has finished, with anyone scoring less than 673 points being eliminated. It was a high scoring round with all but one of the contestants who progressed to the final having achieved an FA during the round. The highest scorers were

  • New York (state) Epicgenius, with 2173 points topping the scores, gained mainly from a featured article, 38 good articles and 9 DYKs. He was followed by
  • Sammi Brie, with 1575 points, gained mainly from a featured article, 28 good articles and 50 good article reviews. Close behind was
  • Thebiguglyalien, with 1535 points mainly gained from a featured article, 15 good articles, 26 good article reviews and lots of bonus points.

Between them during round 4, contestants achieved 12 featured articles, 3 featured lists, 3 featured pictures, 126 good articles, 46 DYK entries, 14 ITN entries, 67 featured article candidate reviews and 147 good article reviews. Congratulations to our eight finalists and all who participated! It was a generally high-scoring and productive round and I think we can expect a highly competitive finish to the competition.

Remember that any content promoted after the end of round 4 but before the start of round 5 can be claimed in round 5. Remember too that you must claim your points within 10 days of "earning" them and within 24 hours of the end of the final. If you are concerned that your nomination will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Misplaced Pages:WikiCup/Reviews. It would be helpful if this list could be cleared of any items no longer relevant. If you want to help out with the WikiCup, please do your bit to keep down the review backlogs! Questions are welcome on Misplaced Pages talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove your name from Misplaced Pages:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send.

I will be standing down as a judge after the end of the contest. I think the Cup encourages productive editors to improve their contributions to Misplaced Pages and I hope that someone else will step up to take over the running of the Cup. Sturmvogel 66 (talk), and Cwmhiraeth (talk)

The Bugle: Issue 209, September 2023

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Nomination of List of Palestinian civilian casualties in the Second Intifada for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article List of Palestinian civilian casualties in the Second Intifada is suitable for inclusion in Misplaced Pages according to Misplaced Pages's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/List of Palestinian civilian casualties in the Second Intifada (2nd nomination) until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

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The Bugle: Issue 210, October 2023

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Hi from Zero

Dear Tiamut, Seeing you edit made my day. Cheers, Zero 04:36, 8 September 2024 (UTC)

Same, though it took me a minute to see it. nableezy - 21:37, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
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