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			== American English transcriptions ==

			Hi, there! As someone knowledgeable in IPA and Misplaced Pages IPA conventions, perhaps you'd be interesting in contributing to this talk page discussion: ]. ] (]) 16:59, 28 February 2023 (UTC)

			== Irish dialect sources? ==

			Hi there! I've just been reading your amazing work on the ] page, and have noticed you've cited many different descriptive works for the various dialects. I'm currently working on some materials from the Doegen recordings and there's a handful of dialectic descriptions I haven't yet been able to lay hands on (I have a bunch already, but can't afford to buy any more and don't have institutional library access). I was wondering if you happen to have digital copies of any monographic dialect descriptions? In particular, I'm looking for any of the following studies:

			* de Burca 1958 (Tourmakeady)
			* Lucas 1979 (Ros Goill)
			* Mhac an Fhailigh 1968 (Erris)
			* Breatnach 1947 (Ring)
			* Sommerfelt 1929 (South Armagh)
			* Stockman 1974 (Achill Island)
			* Hamilton 1974 (Tory Island)

			If you have any of these materials, I'll gladly provide my contact details (unfortunately I've forgotten my Wiki login details, so in the interim I'll try to dig out my login, or will set up a new account if I can't). Thanks very much in advance! ] (]) 09:18, 16 May 2023 (UTC)

			:Sorry, I don't have digital copies of any of those, only paper. You could check whether any of them has been added to archive.org, though I wouldn't hold my breath. —] · ] 09:23, 16 May 2023 (UTC)
			::All good, I just thought I'd ask. I've been able to lay hands on a number of dialect sources (I have copies of the monographs on Iorras Aithneach, Cois Fhairrge, Aran Islands, Rathlin, Dingle, Tangaveane-Commeen, Meenawannia, West Muskerry, and also a digital copy of Stockman and Wagner on the Irish of Tyrone), I'm just trying to expand to as many sources as possible so I can establish isoglosses using additional material beyond what's included in LASID. Thanks anyway! ] (]) 14:32, 17 May 2023 (UTC)
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			Hello Mahagaja, and happy new year. I might have given you a heart attack with the title, but it's not about you :)

			Yet again have I been blocked by the same admin (Fenakhay) who is ''extremely'' possessive on Arabic and Maltese entries. All I did was - I invite you to judge whether it is vandalism.

			My 2600+ voluntary edits have been awarded with being blocked for 1 year, cannot edit my talk page, cannot email anyone. I've only had negative interactions with this admin, who has a long record of unsubstantiated reverts and other tyranny - which is why I guess he needs to constantly delete his talk page which is clogged with complaints. (Use Internet archive if you wish)

			The gist of my message is: Do you think I am being treated fairly? ] (]) 18:39, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

			:FYI, the question of a Punic substrate in Maghrebi Arabic is not even that fringe, you can send our friend for example. ] (]) 14:29, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
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	My impression is that, prior to the British, the Nagari script was used for Hindu standards such as ], and that the only written form of Delhi dialect was Urdu, and that only in the Persian script. (I'm not sure if Hindustani was an exact synonym of Urdu, or if it included Braj as well, or maybe even Awadhi.)

			Hello,
	Was it then the British who introduced a new register of Urdu, written in Nagari, which became Modern Standard Hindi? Or was that a prior or postcolonial development? If Delhi/Khariboli was only written in Persian, which lects was Nagari used for before the British? — ] (]) 21:15, 2 July 2010 (UTC)
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	G'day. , what do you think of the article "]"? I cannot find this term anywhere else except for a couple of internet hobby groups. Thanks, ] (]) 07:46, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
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	After I merged this to ], after months of discussion, I forgot to protect the redirect. Now an edit war has started up. Placed a RfPP, but if that doesn't go anywhere, would you mind protecting the rd? — ] (]) 11:09, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
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	Hi, Angr.<br>
	Please, don't revert, as you did here .<br>
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	He made no discussion. He avoided the discussion (). He thinks that he knows Croatian language better than its maternal speakers. Speakers who had that language as school subject for 12 years and that have been exposed to that language whole their lives, unlike Kwamikagami, who doesn't speak Croatian, who read no school textbook in Croatian, who hasn't written a single school task in Croatian, who never read Croatian newspapers, magazines, literature, who never heard Croatian language. <br>
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	Hi, Angr, I notice you loathe trivia as much as I do and deleted some from "The North Wind and the Sun" article. Obviously we think along the same lines as editors. I'm rather more rigorous about keeping articles on topic. This one is clearly about the fable, not phonetics, which is why I retained the text about the use to which the fable is put but deleted the transcript. If you look at the Discussion on this item, you'll see that Kjoonlee defends items in it in very technical language. My point would be that this matter belongs better in an article on Phonetics. Added to which, I think the unsourced statement in the linguistics section is based on a misunderstanding (read the reference I give and you'll see that the speaker's own retelling of the tale, not the literary version, is used in this case). So I was sorry to see you reverting my deletion and thought I'd discuss the matter with you rather than start an edit war. It's in the spirit of the fable's moral too!! ] (]) 09:36, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
	:If you look through the history, you'll see that I created the article and put the transcription in myself on the very first day. The fable is important in its own right, no doubt, but it is also important for being ''the'' text used by phoneticians to illustrate languages with. This usage is the ''only'' reason many people have ever even heard of this fable. (I for one certainly would never have heard of the fable if it weren't used as the text sample for every language illustrated in the ''Handbook of the IPA''.) You may notice on the talk page that the article is tagged as being part of WikiProject Phonetics, among others. The IPA transcription is by no means "trivia", and including it makes the article better, not worse, as it shows what the fable is notable for. +]] 19:01, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

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	Much of your defence for keeping the transcripts is subjective POV. Retaining them makes the second telling of the story necessary, which is added evidence for an inadmissable duality of subject. I certainly agree that the fable's connection with the IPA's work is interesting and mention of that should be included; I never argued otherwise. Transcription of technical data, however, is intrusive and belongs in a seperate article with a focus on that subject. I am therefore proposing that you create such an article, this time with proper citations, and provide a link to this article, which should remain focused on the fable in general.

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	:"Inadmissible duality of subject"? What on earth are you talking about? There's plenty of room in the article to discuss both its significance as a fable and its significance as a linguistic comparison and IPA example tool. The one does not detract from the other. I don't think I'm the one who added the bit about its being natural language, but at any rate, the point is just that it's more natural than the Lord's Prayer. +]] 06:20, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

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American English transcriptions

Hi, there! As someone knowledgeable in IPA and Misplaced Pages IPA conventions, perhaps you'd be interesting in contributing to this talk page discussion: Talk:American_English#Consistency of IPA phonemes for American English dialect pages. Wolfdog (talk) 16:59, 28 February 2023 (UTC)

Irish dialect sources?

Hi there! I've just been reading your amazing work on the Irish phonology page, and have noticed you've cited many different descriptive works for the various dialects. I'm currently working on some materials from the Doegen recordings and there's a handful of dialectic descriptions I haven't yet been able to lay hands on (I have a bunch already, but can't afford to buy any more and don't have institutional library access). I was wondering if you happen to have digital copies of any monographic dialect descriptions? In particular, I'm looking for any of the following studies:

de Burca 1958 (Tourmakeady)
Lucas 1979 (Ros Goill)
Mhac an Fhailigh 1968 (Erris)
Breatnach 1947 (Ring)
Sommerfelt 1929 (South Armagh)
Stockman 1974 (Achill Island)
Hamilton 1974 (Tory Island)

If you have any of these materials, I'll gladly provide my contact details (unfortunately I've forgotten my Wiki login details, so in the interim I'll try to dig out my login, or will set up a new account if I can't). Thanks very much in advance! 58.179.70.149 (talk) 09:18, 16 May 2023 (UTC)

Sorry, I don't have digital copies of any of those, only paper. You could check whether any of them has been added to archive.org, though I wouldn't hold my breath. —Mahāgaja · talk 09:23, 16 May 2023 (UTC)

All good, I just thought I'd ask. I've been able to lay hands on a number of dialect sources (I have copies of the monographs on Iorras Aithneach, Cois Fhairrge, Aran Islands, Rathlin, Dingle, Tangaveane-Commeen, Meenawannia, West Muskerry, and also a digital copy of Stockman and Wagner on the Irish of Tyrone), I'm just trying to expand to as many sources as possible so I can establish isoglosses using additional material beyond what's included in LASID. Thanks anyway! 58.179.70.149 (talk) 14:32, 17 May 2023 (UTC)

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Hello Mahagaja, and happy new year. I might have given you a heart attack with the title, but it's not about you :)

Yet again have I been blocked by the same admin (Fenakhay) who is extremely possessive on Arabic and Maltese entries. All I did was this edit - I invite you to judge whether it is vandalism.

My 2600+ voluntary edits have been awarded with being blocked for 1 year, cannot edit my talk page, cannot email anyone. I've only had negative interactions with this admin, who has a long record of unsubstantiated reverts and other tyranny - which is why I guess he needs to constantly delete his talk page which is clogged with complaints. (Use Internet archive if you wish)

The gist of my message is: Do you think I am being treated fairly? Synotia (moan) 18:39, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

FYI, the question of a Punic substrate in Maghrebi Arabic is not even that fringe, you can send our friend this for example. Synotia (moan) 14:29, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

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