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|{{center|]: I confirm that my freenode nick is sDrewth}} |
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== ] == |
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], does this help make my explanation clearer? |
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. --] (]) 19:01, 8 July 2010 (UTC) |
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:Thanks. ] ''<span style="font-size:smaller">]</span>'' 01:03, 9 July 2010 (UTC) |
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== AN protection == |
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I was following what I believed to be a good and well-established practice, including using indefinite protection, the reasons for which can be seen described at ]. Usually the protection is lifted shortly after the attack, despite being labeled as indefinite, since it is rare for any of those who vandalize to be waiting for a chance to come back and vandalize again; the short attention span is common to the nature of these websites. |
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Even I believe though that protection is a very last resort. Much more ideal would be for us to be able to use the edit filter to stop only edits that contain the particular patterns that we are expecting to see, while allowing all other editors, including IP's. But because of a limitation in the edit filter software, it is impossible to oversight log entries, and the use of the edit filter to stop edits that give out personally identifying information of other editors is strongly discouraged. |
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If you think I should not use this method at all, please let me know; I am not irrevocably attached to it. However, I suspect that another admin will quickly protect the page if I don't. ''']]]''' 10:08, 9 July 2010 (UTC) |
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:Very blunt tool, with little information for other admins to understand. Maybe a little better communication, would prevent the questions. ] ''<span style="font-size:smaller">]</span>'' 10:29, 9 July 2010 (UTC) |
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::Do you think it would be a good idea if I'd put the summary "Inbound distributed attacks" in the protection log and then put a message on my talk page the way Shirik does? I know that wouldnt help the IP's who can't edit, but like I said, I only used the page protection as a last resort because I wasn't able to revert the edits as fast as they came in (I was not able to revert them at all, actually, because of edit conflicts). ''']]]''' 22:56, 9 July 2010 (UTC) |
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:::I think something like that would be both informative and helpful, maybe even wikilink to the summary. Thanks. ] ''<span style="font-size:smaller">]</span>'' 01:38, 10 July 2010 (UTC) |
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== Apocalypse Rising == |
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Hi, Billinghurst. Thanks for closing the move request on ]. Is there a reason you didn't move the talk page? ] is pretty useless right now and could easily be deleted to make way for the article's former talk page. ] <sup><small><small>]</small></small></sup> 17:15, 13 July 2010 (UTC) |
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== ] == |
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I'm not sure I agree with your choice to relist the Requested Move discussion at the above title, since you had participated in the discussion and it looks like you've chosen to extend the discussion another seven days because you want people to support your suggested title instead of the one that already had support from three others. You did make your suggestion six days ago, after all, so it's not like there hasn't been time for people to see it. ] (]) 16:31, 15 July 2010 (UTC) |
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:You are quite entitled to have an opinion, however, you are not entitled to make presumptions and assign motives to me on that evidence base. What I did was aligned to the guidance of how to manage requested move discussions, and does no harm in a non-urgent discussion. ] ''<span style="font-size:smaller">]</span>'' 05:52, 16 July 2010 (UTC) |
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::Yo, read it again. What I said was what it ''looks like''. A user is barred from closing an RM discussion in which they have participated, not because it is impossible for such a user to reach a fair conclusion about the consensus of such a discussion, but because it can always appear to others that his view of the discussion is compromised by his own opinion. My feeling is that the same reasons should bar, or at least discourage, a user who has participated in the discussion from relisting it. I cannot know why you relisted it, but it looks like you did it because you didn't like the consensus, and if it had been an uninvolved admin who chose to relist it, that appearance of bias would obviously be absent. |
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::As I'm sure we're both aware, the RM guidelines don't say that participating users can't relist discussions, although they do say the decision to re-list is "up to the closer," which seems to me to imply that the person who chooses to re-list should be eligible to close. But I am not accusing you of violating any rule, guideline or policy; my aim was to point out that your action, in my view, violates the spirit of the guideline and creates the same negative consequences that the guideline is intended to prevent. I doubt there's reason for me to discuss it any further unless you'd like me to further clarify my meaning. ] (]) 13:45, 16 July 2010 (UTC) |
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:::My error was not relisting on the day of my comment, as the support level was on the low end compared to the commentary made. On the day that I reviewed it for closing, I noticed and commented on particular flaws in the grammatical logic, rather than on the substance of a move, which I would regard on the lower end of commentary. My subsequent relisting had been a correction to that when I noticed my previous oversight. |
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:::You will find that following my making substantive comments I don't close it, which if you reviewed my other moves would be evident. To say that an admin doesn't and cannot have an opinion is misleading, as one cannot help but have an opinion, especially if one does numbers of moves, and has an awareness of the process. It is whether their opinion blinds them to the argument; their opinion on whether a consensus has been formed, and their opinion on whether the consensus follows the naming guidelines, as there can be a consensus that doesn't align. ] ''<span style="font-size:smaller">]</span>'' 15:53, 16 July 2010 (UTC) |
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Maybe these pages could be moved now? The proposal has been listed since 1 July. ] (]) 09:34, 16 July 2010 (UTC) |
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===Problem with move=== |
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Hello. When you moved ] it looks like you left the talk page behind, so that now ] redirects to ] but ] is orphaned and ] redirects to the dab's talk page. (There was similar but less confusing single-move situation with ] which I've since corrected.) ] (]) 19:24, 16 July 2010 (UTC) |
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:Thanks. ] ''<span style="font-size:smaller">]</span>'' 00:53, 17 July 2010 (UTC) |
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I am a new editor and I came across your comment here: |
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You said "as per the name of tab". What do you mean?] (]) 21:59, 17 July 2010 (UTC) |
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: There are a number of tabs at the top of each page. For article pages it says | Article | Talk | ...| History. Here for user pages it says | User | Talk | ... |
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Also, What is sDrewth?] (]) 22:01, 17 July 2010 (UTC) |
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:I am; and it is my link to my talk page, and it is my nickname in a few places, so it works nicely as a place to look to talk to me. Its origin is that it is a created word, and a word play. ] ''<span style="font-size:smaller">]</span>'' 11:24, 18 July 2010 (UTC) |
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== Ivory Coast vs. Cote d'Ivoire == |
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I wonder if you could help me with some advise on how to precede on the matter of Ivory Coast vs. Cote d'Ivoire. I do not want to be disruptive by keep beating a dead horse. But at the same time, I think that this case has been handle wrong. The opposition against the move has thus far succeeded in arguing that in the case of usage being split between more than one common name, an article should stay in its last stable location. But ] actually says that in such a case, that the name should be decided through reaching a consensus between editors on which is the best name. And I think that such a consensus has already been reached in the requested move discussion. I don't know if it would be prudent in this situation to post a new requested move discussion to try and reach a such a consensus again, now that it has been established that there are two common names for the country.] (]) 02:50, 20 July 2010 (UTC) |
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