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	==Yeniseysk and Tuva==
			]Your feedback is requested &#32;at ]. Thank you for helping out!<br/><small>You were randomly selected to receive this invitation from the list of ] subscribers. If you'd like not to receive these messages any more, you can opt out at any time by ].</small> <!-- Template:FRS notification --><div class="paragraphbreak" style="margin-top:0.5em"></div> Message delivered to you with love by ] :) &#124; Is this wrong? Contact ]. &#124; Sent at 19:31, 2 January 2022 (UTC)
	Hi. In your article on the ], you claim that Tuva, as the ''Uryankhay Krai'', was merged into the same administrative framework as Yeniseysk. What sources did you base this on if you don't my asking? All the ones I've seen assert that it was declared an autonomous protectorate of the Russian empire on 17 April 1914.--] (]) 05:29, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
	:Hm. I remember that, for whatever reason, I wrote that article rather hastily, but I can verify that most of the information came from the source cited in the "References" section. That, however, would only be the post-1920 information. Where the pre-1920 stuff came from, I wouldn't remember if you put a gun to my head! Quite embarrassing, actually. I kinda sorta remember that it was something solid (i.e., not a random bit off the internets), but for the life of me I can't recall what it was, nor can I recall why in the world I didn't list that source along with the other.
	:Anyhoo, if you have sources attesting to the contrary of what that particular sentence states, then please by all means rephrase the sentence and cite your source. If I happen to stumble upon the material I used, I'll let you know. And sorry about the confusion!—]&nbsp;•&nbsp;(]); June&nbsp;20, 2011; 13:33 (UTC)
	::I'm not gonna change it right now, but I don’t actually need any evidence to disprove a positive claim – you need evidence to prove it.
	::Reason I’m asking is because I'm currently involved in a collaborative online map project, and we found contradictory information on Tuva's status from 1914 to 1921. If it was declared an autonomous protectorate inside of the boundaries of the Russian empire (along the lines of Bukhara and Khiva presumably), it would seem rather strange that the Moscow authorities incorporated it into an adjacent province/gubernia, which suggests outright annexation.--] (]) 17:18, 21 June 2011 (UTC)
	:::Well, since I'm obviously as stumped about where the claim came from as you are, you can replace it with another positive claim and add evidence to back it up :)
	:::As for Tuva's status, I may have some books about Tuva's history (with the emphasis on its administrative status, since this is the kind of books I collect) in storage, but it may take me a while to get there and look. If I find anything interesting that may be of help to you, I'll let you know. Cheers,—]&nbsp;•&nbsp;(]); June&nbsp;21, 2011; 17:30 (UTC)
	::::Ok, thanks in advance.--] (]) 17:55, 21 June 2011 (UTC)
	:::::I haven't had a chance to check out what I have in storage, but I've dug up something that confirms the inclusion of Uryankhay Krai into Yeniseysk Governorate. says that the krai was included as a part of the governorate, and it is sourced to a quite authoritative source by Dubrovsky. I don't know if this helps you any, but it should be a good starting point. Cheers,—]&nbsp;•&nbsp;(]); July&nbsp;12, 2011; 18:33 (UTC)
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	:Sorry to intrude here (I was looking at Ezhiki's page for the answer to a different question)... Otto Manchen-Helfen writes in his Journey to Tuva that Tuva was "incorporated into Yenisei Gubyerniya" one month after the outbreak of WW1. In the note, he writes that "The annexation, which had been decided upon on April 17, 1914 (four months before the outbreak of World War I), was announced to the Tuvan population in the autumn. Shortly thereafter, the city of Byelotsarsk was founded by the Russian government." Check out pages 195-196 of Journey to Tuva (Czarist Annexation of Tuva, 1911-1917). In Appendix A (pg. 234) there's the history from the People's Revolutionary Party's Fourth Congress: "In 1913 the Russian officials finally forced the acceptance of Russian czarist "protection" upon the Tuvan rulers of the day. The government of Nicholas II dispatched a Commissar Extraordinary, and Urianghai was gobbled up by Yenisei Gubyerniya.". In the Tuvan Manual: "In July 1914, an official communicated the Czar's willingness to grant the Tuvans protection to the Ambyn-Noyan Gombodorji. The latter accepted the provision that "no relations of any kind (were to be maintained) with foreign states, including Mongolia" and Tuva came under the administration of the Yenisei Guberniya. The Russian action was to be kept secret." Hope that helps. --] (]) 04:17, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
	::Thank you, Stacey, this is very helpful and no intrusion at all. I should have thought to ask you earlier!—]&nbsp;•&nbsp;(]); July&nbsp;13, 2011; 13:21 (UTC)
	:::Thanks for the sources, both of you! Judging from this information the Russian government seems to have assumed the continued existence of a Tuvan nation under formal Russian protection in spite of the annexation, so I'd say the joinder with Yeniseysk was more for administrative simplicity than complete submersion into the system of direct rule. Annexation was presumably interpreted to rather mean detachment from China and inclusion into the metropolitan area of Russia.--] (]) 04:35, 23 July 2011 (UTC)
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	==Sveinald (Varangian warlord)==
	Hello! Could you move ] back to ]. The latter title is more nice and simple, and the latter name is much more popular both in google hits and google book hits, even when searching English sources only, vs . ] ] 16:14, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
	:I believe it was obviously incorrectly moved without starting a move request. ] ] 16:16, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
	::I don't know about the "incorrectly" part, but the move is certainly unexplained. I've moved it back.—]&nbsp;•&nbsp;(]); June&nbsp;22, 2011; 16:23 (UTC)
	:::Thanks for the back move. I mean that it was incorrect technically (brackets addition to unambiguous title) and procedurally; by the way what's with the talk page? ] is attached to ] and not to ]. ] ] 16:31, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
	::::My screw-up. I'm taking care of it.—]&nbsp;•&nbsp;(]); June&nbsp;22, 2011; 16:32 (UTC)
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	==Mariya Svistunova==
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	Hello, This is an article which started as a very poor translation of an unidentified Russian text. It has been upgraded quite a lot since then but I found some problems with the Russian names as well as the dreadful translation. Forms of Russian names often have many Latin alphabet transliterations depending which European language has been used for the purpose. Many libraries use the ] but I have not seen much sign of that in Misplaced Pages. Deciding how to change the names that were wrong was difficult.--] (]) 21:16, 24 June 2011 (UTC)
	:Hi, Felix! We don't normally use ALA-LC romanization in Misplaced Pages because its use is mainly limited to the library catalogs and not to the actual publications. As for the spellings of people's names, we should stick to the spellings used in the sources being cited (I mean the sources in English, of course). If no such sources are available, we use ] (note that it is currently under discussion, but the discussion concerns only a few minor details). Let me know if you need anything further. Cheers,—]&nbsp;•&nbsp;(]); June&nbsp;27, 2011; 15:27 (UTC)
	::Thank you, The history of that article ] is very peculiar: when I began to edit it it was of disputed notability which I thought was a mistake. The first version includes sources like this: <blockquote>'''Notes'''
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	↑ Memoranda Alymova
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	↑ Russian portraits of 18-19 centuries. Т.3.Vyp.3. № 79.
	↑ Russian portraits of 18-19 centuries. Т.3.Vyp.3.№ 78.
	↑ Christin F. & La Princesse Tourkestanow. Lettres ecrites de Petersbourg et de Moscou: 1817-1819. Kristen Ferdinand and Princess Turkestanova , 1883 / / Russian Archive, 1882.
	↑ А. J. Michael-Danilevsky. Notes of 1814-1815 years. — SPb, 1832.
	↑ D. Fikelmon. Diary 1829-1837. The whole Pushkin's Petersburg, 2009 .- p.55 </blockquote> So I suppose it is a machine translation from a Cyrillic encyclopedia article but there is nothing to show the title or edition of the encyclopedia. (The advantage of the ALA-LC romanization is that it works well in both directions but it would be unsuitable for Misplaced Pages to adopt it as a standard.) I think these sources ought to be retained somehow. --] (]) 23:07, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
	:::I don't have access to any of these, unfortunately. From what I see, all these are originally in Russian (except, of course, the one in French), which means that for spelling guidance ] is your best bet (at least until you find anything relevant in English).—]&nbsp;•&nbsp;(]); June&nbsp;28, 2011; 13:35 (UTC)
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	* Коллега, не могли бы вы ознакомиться с этими двумя небольшими статьями, посвященными картинам русских художников Александра Семёнова и Николая Тимкова: ] и ] и высказать и своё мнение по поводу целесообразности их удаления? Как я вижу, среди инициаторов удаления созданных 3 дня назад статей нет занимающихся русским искусством или хотя бы элементарно знающих язык. Статьи являются переводом статей, существующих в русском разделе Википедии: ] и ] С Уважением, ] (]) 21:57, 25 June 2011 (UTC)
	:Я прокомментировал, но в будущем рекомендую вам не охотиться на участников поодиночке, а обращать внимание на подобные ситуации на ].—]&nbsp;•&nbsp;(]); June&nbsp;27, 2011; 15:12 (UTC)
	:: Спасибо за совет. Сделал. Пока не хватает опыта в этих вопросах. ] (]) 20:45, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
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	==Highlighting in the page history==
	Perhaps you could explain what the highlighting in pale colours is (as on My contributions to the Russian WP, Polish WP & Hungarian WP). As I do not know enough of those three languages to find an account of what those colours means either not knowing or consulting an editor who will know. I know there is a huge difference between us in time zones (here is GMT +1) so am quite patient.--] (]) 12:18, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
	:That the article's ] status. You wouldn't see these colors on the en_wiki because this feature is not implemented here. A pale yellow highlight means that the article needs to be sighted, while pale blue means that the article had already been sighted by someone. The exact implementation details may vary from one Misplaced Pages to another, but in general your edits will always be marked as unsighted in Wikipedias where you don't have an autoreviewer status, and you can do nothing to change that unless you have a reviewer status. The bottom line&mdash;you can safely ignore that highlighting :)—]&nbsp;•&nbsp;(]); June&nbsp;28, 2011; 13:27 (UTC)
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	==BlagovesHchensky, Russia==
	] VS ] ] (]) 16:42, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
	:That's a typo; I've fixed it. Thanks for catching it!—]&nbsp;•&nbsp;(]); July&nbsp;1, 2011; 17:49 (UTC)
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	==Zyuzino==
	Maybe you can bring ] to SIA standard. The is also one locality in Belarus, so even under your system it would be ", Russia" at least after article creation for that one. But the SIAs don't ask for any article creation to exist, so maybe even under your system, knowledge of the Belarus entity is sufficient, independent of an article or entry in WP. Please no reply on my talk. This was just to inform you. ] (]) 21:10, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
	:I have reformatted that one. As for your question, if I know for sure that a place by the same name exists outside Russia (whether we have an article on it or not), I always take that into consideration when naming the set on the Russian localities. Doing otherwise would just add to future maintenance for no good reason. Cheers,—]&nbsp;•&nbsp;(]); July&nbsp;5, 2011; 13:55 (UTC)
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	Still no reply on my talk page needed:
	* ] - the current rural needs to go to ", Kirov Oblast". ] (]) 19:10, 15 July 2011 (UTC)
	* ] - details on Magadan would be nice. ] (]) 19:16, 15 July 2011 (UTC)
	:I've fixed Loyno. As for Omolon, there is currently no inhabited locality in Magadan Oblast by this name. There used to be a state farm, but it was never classified as an inhabited locality. I'll double-check the historical records though.—]&nbsp;•&nbsp;(]); July&nbsp;15, 2011; 19:31 (UTC)
	::The sovkhoz was in Magadan? ] (]) 19:59, 15 July 2011 (UTC)
	:::Yes (although they may have been one by the same name in ChAO as well). Also, don't forget that Chukotka Autonomous Okrug was once subordinated to Magadan Oblast, so geonames might have taken the data about the same place from different sources and treated them as distinct places. The coordinates, of course, aren't the same, but then geonames isn't exactly a reliable source (I've already found an error in their coordinates data for Loyno).—]&nbsp;•&nbsp;(]); July&nbsp;15, 2011; 20:06 (UTC)
	* ] - move needed for ] ] (]) 23:31, 15 July 2011 (UTC)
	Three SIAs needed, you probably have better data:
	* ] - ] i (correct, although the other one is a tiny village of dubious notability)
	* ] - ] i (correct, although the other one is a tiny village of dubious notability)
	* ] - ] i+o (the one in Russia is a tiny village; no Misplaced Pages article for the entity outside of Russia)
	] (]) 23:46, 15 July 2011 (UTC)
	* ] http://www.geonames.org/search.html?q=Kataysk&country=RU - maybe SIA ] (]) 11:03, 16 July 2011 (UTC)
	* ] http://www.geonames.org/search.html?q=Dmitriyev&country=RU - maybe SIA ] (]) 11:03, 16 July 2011 (UTC)
	:Will do, thanks.—]&nbsp;•&nbsp;(]); July&nbsp;19, 2011; 14:21 (UTC)
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	==Article importance script==
	I'm writing ] which would automatically insert article importance next to the article name on a task force page. I don't know how to write a bot, but an offline script should also work; one just needs to save the task force page on disk and then cut-paste the result back to WP :). You can see a test run . As you can see, there are still some problems, but I hope I can fix them "soon". Any suggestions on what the script should do? Is format (just adding importance in parentheses at the end of the line) ok? ] (]) 15:23, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
	:Some color-coding would be useful (perhaps it is enough to color-code the importance in parentheses). Also, it would be nice if the script could read the tags on page tops, such as clean-up, neutrality tags etc. and insert the relevant information next to importance. ] ] 18:04, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
	::Yes, color-coding is a great idea. Any suggestions for the color scheme? Perhaps <span style="color:red">'''Top'''</span>, <span style="color:blue">'''High'''</span>, <span style="color:orange">'''Mid'''</span>, <span style="color:grey">'''Low'''</span>. The tags could be mentioned in smaller text, not to make the page too distracting, like with <span style="font-size:50%">Tags: npov, references, deadlinks</span>. ] (]) 18:26, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
	:::Good, but the tags a bit too small. I'd propose this size and style: ''<span style="font-size:70%" color="grey">Tags: npov, references, deadlinks</span>'' ] ] 19:21, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
	:::Also I think the word "importance" could be dropped, <span style="color:red">'''Top'''</span>, <span style="color:blue">'''High'''</span>, <span style="color:orange">'''Mid'''</span>, <span style="color:grey">'''Low'''</span> are just enough. ] ] 19:25, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
	::::Actually, I think finding and inserting all tags may not be feasible. There's a huge number of them, and one cannot just get all templates on top of the page, because that would also include stuff like infoboxen. If there was a way to get a list cleanup, neutrality, etc. tags directly through the , it would work. I tried looking but did not find such a feature there. Maybe I could write a predefined list of, say, 10 main tags we want to be listed, like "npov", "unbalanced", "refimprove", "blp", etc. The question is, would it still be a useful feature with this limited list of tags it recognises? ] (]) 20:55, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
	:::::Another test run: ]. Does the coloring look good? Perhaps the font should be a bit larger or at least it should be in bold? If you spot any mistakes made by the script, I would be grateful. ] (]) 21:17, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
	::::::Yes, I think 10 main predefined tags would be enough. Coloring is quite good! Check the line with "Russian Amber Company" - it is a red link, so where from does it take importance? ] ] 22:07, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
	:::::::I think the best way to check which tags are present in the article is to look in the hidden categories . The script now recognises ]. I made another test run with the tags listed: ]. Any comments? Does it look OK, and did I select the right categories? ] (]) 16:45, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
	:::::::Btw, was the style you suggested <span style="font-size:70%; color:grey; font-style:italic">Tags: NPOV, refs, cleanup</span> or <span style="font-size:70%; font-style:italic">Tags: NPOV, refs, cleanup</span>? (The markup you mentioned was different from rendered text) ] (]) 17:21, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
	::::::::The last variants looks OK. A bit too many brackets, though. Maybe it is worth coloring those additional brackets as well, not sure. As for the style of tags its OK either way (perhaps grey is even better), the main point was the font size. ] ] 18:25, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
	:::::::::Here's a list of some possibilities:
	:::::::::*1. ] (<span style="color:red">Top </span>)(<span style="font-size:70%; font-style:italic">Tags: NPOV, refs, cleanup</span>)- current style
	:::::::::*2. ] (<span style="color:red">Top; </span><span style="font-size:70%; font-style:italic">Tags: NPOV, refs, cleanup</span>) - two brackets less
	:::::::::*3. ] (<span style="color:red">Top; </span><span style="font-size:70%; color:grey; font-style:italic">Tags: NPOV, refs, cleanup</span>) - two brackets less; grey color
	:::::::::*4. ] <span style="color:red">(Top) </span><span style="font-size:70%; font-style:italic">(Tags: NPOV, refs, cleanup)</span> - first brackets have same color as their content
	:::::::::*5. ] <span style="color:red">(Top) </span><span style="font-size:70%; color:grey; font-style:italic">(Tags: NPOV, refs, cleanup)</span> - all brackets have same color as content
	:::::::::*5b. ] <span style="color:grey">(Low) </span><span style="font-size:70%; color:grey; font-style:italic">(Tags: NPOV, refs, cleanup)</span> - all brackets have same color as content
	:::::::::Of these, I think 4 looks the best. I cannot think of a good way to have less brackets. 5 has the disadvantage, that everything is of same color if importance is low, as 5b shows. We can always change the style later. A new run of the script always just overwrites the old output.
	:::::::::The main problem is probably going to be that the script needs to be manually run each time; if we want to keep the task-force page always up-to-date, one needs to run the script after every addition. A more realistic scheme would be to run the script only once in a week. A way to make the updating quicker would be to write a PHP script instead, and add it to a web page. Then, one would simply enter the URL of the task force page to the web form, and would receive the updated page as copyable text, which can be pasted back to WP. For smaller updates, one could enter the name of the article you have added to the task force page, and the script would give its importance and tags. The problem is, I don't have a web server with PHP support. ] (]) 19:17, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
	::::::::::Agree, #4 is the best variant. As for the running issues, let's wait for Ezhiki's advice or perhaps ask some bot-runners, such as ]. ] ] 19:35, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
	:::::::::::Hmm, I have to admit that most of the technical stuff related to this is way over my head (I don't know PHP and never learned just how it is exactly the bots operate), so I'm afraid I'm not of much help in that area. We need a willing bot owner to run this, because running this manually every week is not a practical solution, I know that much :)
	:::::::::::As for the variants, I also like #4 best.
	:::::::::::All in all, great job! I think automating this task was a great idea, and the implementation is pretty good, too.—]&nbsp;•&nbsp;(]); July&nbsp;5, 2011; 14:50 (UTC)
	::::::::::::Indeed, doing it manually is not a solution at all. ] ] 15:21, 5 July 2011 (UTC)
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	==NCRUS - DAB populates places==
	I started a ] related vote at ]. It would simply mean to remove the "Dikson (urban-type settlement)"-rule and would result in ] by applying the general Misplaced Pages rules. I hope we can at least agree on that one. Especially for "urban-type settlement" I see only five or so articles that would fall under the clause anyway. For "rural locality" I couldn't find a number.
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	I agree with your move http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Shamkhal,_Russia&diff=437870425&oldid=437373607 - I made a mistake here, applying the subdivision name, but that is not supported by the rules. Sorry. Again, no need to reply on my talk. This was just to inform you. ] (]) 13:52, 5 July 2011 (UTC)
	:And once someone writes an article about the port called Dikson, "Dikson, Russia" will be referring to... what? And the article about the urban-type settlement will be moved to... where?
	:As for Shamkhal, no problem.—]&nbsp;•&nbsp;(]); July&nbsp;5, 2011; 14:39 (UTC)
	::How would you name the articles on the settlement and on the port if there would be ]? ] (]) 16:12, 5 July 2011 (UTC)
	:::Using parenthetical disambiguators, of course (in addition to country specifier when necessary). This applies to Shamkhal, by the way, since there is a railway station called Shamkhal (although we don't yet have an article about it).
	:::My point is that no guideline will ever cover every possibility, and the more possibilities you try to document, the longer and less usable are the instructions. Look at the length of your proposed NCRUS&mdash;just how, may I ask, does it "reduce instruction creep" (which was the whole point of your original proposal)? Instead of three simple rules covering most cases you now have kilobytes of instructions which ''still'' don't cover all cases!—]&nbsp;•&nbsp;(]); July&nbsp;5, 2011; 16:22 (UTC)
	::::It is you who invented a massive set of rules. But you have them in your head and didn't write them all down. I only documented what I found you have put into several pages. And I found it was inconsistent. You have to compare all your rules with all rules that would result from my proposals, i.e. written down + your head VS written down as proposed by me. But lets stay at the topic, how would you call the Dikson articles? Please write down the links, as I cannot see what you mean. ] (]) 16:31, 5 July 2011 (UTC)
	:::::You know, I'm actually the person who works on these articles most. When I create an article, it needs to go under ''some'' title, and no one else will name it for me. And it makes sense to name new articles the same way as the articles that already exist. At some point, it makes sense to document the general trends of how these articles are titled, hence the three simple rules we have. That's really the only way to do things when no one else cares much about the work being done but generally agrees that the work is good and necessary. You wouldn't expect me to wait five years to start creating articles just because there is no one else around to discuss the "naming rules", would you?
	:::::Also, the existing rules aren't just in my head; they are actually implemented and can be observed. Note that no one is expected to follow the rules in every little detail you have so far documented&mdash;if the three major clauses don't cover a situation neatly, then one may use whatever works in that particular situation. Hence most of the "inconsistencies" which you've found. Some of them can be fixed, some can't, but it doesn't mean that we should replace the three rules with pages and pages of instructions covering every possible situation! The guidelines are supposed to provide general guidance, not step-by-step instructions on how to handle every possible combination of entities we may ever face. And the three general rules allow for more flexibility than two.
	:::::To answer your question about Shamkhal, there are multiple ways to handle the situation. If I were faced with this task today, I'd place the articles at "Shamkhal, Iran", "Shamkhal (urban-type settlement), Russia", and "Shamkhal railway station". However, I'd use this setup ''not'' because some rules tell me to do it just this way, but because no existing rule covers this situation neatly and this particular approach works reasonably well. If a better way is found, the three articles can always be re-named, but it doesn't mean that we need to add a separate rule to cover the situation of this type.—]&nbsp;•&nbsp;(]); July&nbsp;5, 2011; 17:07 (UTC)
	::::::Even if you are the only editor, you should follow WP rules. And if there is no need for Russia specific rules, you shouldn't invent too much. ] and ] see ], would be sufficient. Railway stations mostly don't go under the plain name. The only articles the almost always go without the type are localities. They use comma and that's it. ] (]) 17:22, 5 July 2011 (UTC)
	:::::::There are no rules to follow in this area; there are only guidelines to help editors make a choice. Again, these are ''guidelines'', not ''policies''. When the guidelines are inadequate (which in this example they are), it's perfectly alright to make an exception or to use whatever makes sense at the moment. As long as readers can find the article, it's all fine. And if it can be found easier under a certain title without having to click through several pages, it's even better. There's no need to re-write the guidelines for that, especially if the re-written version will no longer conform with the real state of the matters!—]&nbsp;•&nbsp;(]); July&nbsp;5, 2011; 17:35 (UTC)
	::::::::But you are enforcing your self-made "guidelines" on others . '' As long as readers can find the article, it's all fine.'' - Why then, you make so much drama? ] (]) 17:58, 5 July 2011 (UTC)
	:::::::::Because it's easier to find an article about an urban-type settlement when it is labeled as such instead of generic "Russia", especially when the other entity is also in Russia? The title needs to be disambiguated anyway, so what use is there in choosing a less specific disambiguator? Just because a generic guideline tells us so? Do we not have our own heads to think with?—]&nbsp;•&nbsp;(]); July&nbsp;5, 2011; 18:06 (UTC)
	:::::::::: But lakes almost ever use the word "lake" in the name. The comma is very much pointing that the article is about a locality. And, there can be other settlements called Khasan, e.g. ]. WP is far from being complete. Shield the articles from the need for moving around in the next 10 years, by applying ", Russia" in cases where a disambiguator is needed anyway already. ] (]) 18:24, 5 July 2011 (UTC)
	:::::::::::It's "pointing" for you and me, not your average Joe seeking to find info about "something called X in Russia". If Joe is looking for "X Mountain" in Russia, a list such as "X Lake", "X (cake)", "X, Russia" isn't even telling him that we don't have an article about the mountain; it'll just lead him to click through "X, Russia" and be disappointed. A list such as "X Lake", "X (cake)", "X (rural locality)" at least makes it abundantly clear that we have nothing about the mountain. Similarly, if a Jane looking for the Russian village, the first list gives her no clues that the entry she seeks is the last one, while the second list makes the selection immediately obvious. All in all, you are sacrificing readers' convenience just to prevent us from moving an article on the off-chance something else pops up. That's just wrong.
	:::::::::::And if another place, outside of Russia, turns up, then of course the articles will need to be moved and the disambig page edited accordingly, but I don't see the current rules interfering with that process at all.—]&nbsp;•&nbsp;(]); July&nbsp;5, 2011; 18:44 (UTC)
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	:::What you are doing is making them less flexible and more confusing, which doesn't really help any. Not mentioning parenthetical disambiguators doesn't magically rid us of ''all'' the situations where using them is an acceptable (or only) solution; it just removes the explanation of their use from public view. But anyhoo, thanks for the barnstar all the same.—]&nbsp;•&nbsp;(]); July&nbsp;5, 2011; 20:10 (UTC)
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	:Thanks for the barnstar! It does make me feel better that the problem is not so much with my arguments as it is with people's personal tastes clouding their judgement :)
	:Seriously, though, no problem. We all have different views on some matters. If the proposal doesn't pass, it doesn't pass. If it does, at least I can feel comfortable knowing that I put up a good fight.
	:I hope you have a great vacation and will return to editing refreshed and invigorated. It goes without saying that I'll keep an eye on the assessments and will continue with my daily batches.—]&nbsp;•&nbsp;(]); July&nbsp;11, 2011; 13:39 (UTC)
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	Hi! can u please help expanding this article using ur russian reading skills? (there is quiet big article in russian wikipedia). Have good day! ] ] ] 16:56, 9 July 2011 (UTC)
	:I could help with that article as soon as I have some time. I'm quite busy now, so maybe in 1-2 weeks. ] (]) 02:13, 11 July 2011 (UTC)
	::If you could do that, it'd be great. I'm not big on doing translations, and the topic isn't something I'd feel excited to work on anyway. {{small|In a couple of weeks right after the industry of the Kola Peninsula, right? :)))}}—]&nbsp;•&nbsp;(]); July&nbsp;11, 2011; 13:43 (UTC)
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	:Unfortunately, I don't think the guy is around much any more. I asked him about the other thing you wanted a few months back, and I never got a response. His last edit in ru_wiki was in February.—]&nbsp;•&nbsp;(]); July&nbsp;11, 2011; 13:45 (UTC)
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	:Neither spelling is incorrect; it's just different romanization systems. We mostly follow the ], but ], too. All systems enjoy some use, and even the same organization may not always follow just one consistently.—]&nbsp;•&nbsp;(]); July&nbsp;13, 2011; 13:30 (UTC)
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	:There are no inhabited localities in Russia called "Tarku". The Ghazi Muhammad article should link to ] (which is called "Таргъу" in ], which is why it is currently spelled "Tarku").—]&nbsp;•&nbsp;(]); July&nbsp;19, 2011; 14:26 (UTC)
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	:I don't have anything specific, but if you have anything in mind for me to find, shoot. My mother used to subscribe to ''Rabotnitsa'' in Soviet times, by the way :)—]&nbsp;•&nbsp;(]); July&nbsp;19, 2011; 14:28 (UTC)
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	You must have been angry to have chosen to start a deletion request for ]? I would appreciate WP has an article on ] /and/ on ]. Or the latter mentioned within the former. Can you bring any sources for the term "inhabited locality" into the article space? For the record, I am not happy with "populated place", since some of them are not populated anymore, a problem one does not have with "settlement". Also locality might be a good general term, and at the end, all "populated places" could be moved to "inhabited locality" or ] ().
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	Please can we work on sorting this out, without content deletion? Thanks for the kitten. ] (]) 12:18, 20 July 2011 (UTC)
	:No, I didn't nominate it because I was angry (I thought you knew me better than that), and even though I am frustrated in general, that's not the reason either. The only reason I nominated it is because it was a disgraceful stub about a non-notable concept. If someone expands it to show notability and supplies references (a process that I see is already ongoing), that'll be great, but otherwise there just isn't a reason to keep that little abomination around. I wish I could help with expanding it myself, but you are keeping me rather busy in half a dozen other discussions which I barely keep up with, and I don't want to pile up yet another task on top of that.
	:Also, I don't have any problem with using the term "populated place" (or any of the other synonyms, except "settlement", which is just too confusing in the context of several countries) to name the upper level categories. The purpose of the upper level categories is to provide means to readers so they could easily compare the same concept across many different countries, so it makes sense for the terminology to be uniform (horizontally). However, once the reader locates the category being sought, there just isn't a need to stick with generic terminology any longer&mdash;using more specific terminology in the context of that particular country is a lot more helpful (not to mention encyclopedic). There is even less need to use the generic terminology in the actual articles. If more precise and/or more common terms are used in a particular context, that's what we should be using, too. If multiple terms exist, we should use the one that's more common than the others. That's all I'm trying to convey. I find the notion that the choice of terminology in our articles should be guided by the choice of terminology for our upper-level category names rather revolting, is all. I thought Wikipedians stopped doing that years ago, but apparently not everyone is yet on board.—]&nbsp;•&nbsp;(]); July&nbsp;20, 2011; 13:27 (UTC)
	::''Please'', transfer your knowledge of "more precise and/or more common" into the article space. Otherwise it looks just like your private opinion and you will have to repeat it again and again to users. ] (]) 13:39, 20 July 2011 (UTC)
	:::I can't. There are things one can look up and add as references, and there are things one learns from observation. I've read dozens of books on the administrative-territorial divisions of Russia, and most of them use the term "inhabited localities" when they describe the concept with any specificity, but none would directly say that "'inhabited localities' is ''the'' term used to refer to legally defined areas of human settlement in Russia", because it is not ''the'' term by the virtue of some mandate, but merely by the virtue of usage in a certain context. The term also fits nicely into the whole urban/rural localities classification terminology, which, to me at least, makes the choice a no-brainer. In other words, I stick with the view that if multiple translations of the same term exist, the one that fits best into the ''encyclopedic'' infrastructure should be preferred. You seem to stick with the view that if multiple translations of the same term exist, the one that fits best into the ''auxiliary'' (navigational) infrastructure should be preferred. However, since we are building an encyclopedia (where content is supposed to be king), I can't subscribe to that view.
	:::Compare it to the situation around "populated places". It's not hard to find a bunch of generic definitions, but you will not find a source confirming it's ''the'' preferred choice when one needs to call areas of human habitation something. We just agree that, in general, it is, based on what the sources out there tend to use. It's not something we can reference, but it's something we can agree on. There never had been a discussion which established that we should be using this term in all contexts, though; the consensus was merely regarding the upper-level categories.
	:::All in all, if you can't or aren't willing to accept my testimony in good faith, just say so. I seem to be the only person interested in the classification of the inhabited localities in Russia anyway&mdash;something I have always thought of as being an asset, because I can contribute something unique that others can't&mdash;but it seems that others (and, unfortunately, you) prefer to think of this situation as if I were trying to impose my "personal opinions" in an area no one else really has a clue about. If Wikipedians don't want my services in this area, I'll be happy to free up the next seven years of my life for doing something more productive. I most certainly can't be very productive in an environment where the opinions of an editor with a knowledge of some pretty esoteric (yet encyclopedic) matters are routinely dismissed in favor of simplistic (and occasionally plain incorrect) approaches and where that editor is forced to waste all his available time on "improving the guidelines" instead of being able to work on the only thing that really matters&mdash;the content. When people (not you) say in my face that their main reason for arguing with me is "to show me my place", when most of the people opposing my views never even contribute to Russia-related articles yet keep following me to each new Russia-related discussion I happen to be (or have been) a part of, when they find my arguments "convincing" but don't support them strictly because they have a strong personal preference of their own, all that is not exactly an incentive to keep contributing.—]&nbsp;•&nbsp;(]); July&nbsp;20, 2011; 14:26 (UTC)
	::::You might find contributing more pleasurable if you learned to go with the flow, sometimes. I do this by mostly ignoring my own personal preferences (even in areas where I'm more knowledgeable than most), and by attempting to understand what "everybody else" wants. ] (]) 16:21, 20 July 2011 (UTC)
	:::::That'd be a great piece of advice if my goal here were to spend time pleasurably. As it stands, I am here to contribute to an area of knowledge no one else is willing to contribute, which means there is no "flow". It is one thing to disagree with a group of fellow editors who might have different views on a subject but are all knowledgeable about it. It's a different thing entirely to disagree with a group of editors who are arguing with you not for the sake of the readers, not for the sake of the content, but for the sake of maintaining integrity of the guidelines and regulations regardless of whether doing so makes sense in the context or not. Even that wouldn't be so bad if those editors were at least willing to listen to the reasons being presented to them, but they either don't listen at all, or stick to personal preferences of their own, or say something like "I don't understand any of it, but I will oppose because someone else did". It's not really that hard to understand what "everybody else" wants here&mdash;they want the problem gone, and dismissing it or bundling it with the ways of doing vaguely similar things is often the easiest way to do so. It takes care of the problem alright, but Misplaced Pages does not become better as a result. And according to you, my only option is to stop caring about subject-specific problems if I want to continue editing or perhaps to switch to editing less esoteric subjects, those with a "flow". Great. I truly don't know sometimes why I bother contributing at all.—]&nbsp;•&nbsp;(]); July&nbsp;20, 2011; 17:15 (UTC)
	::::::I just mean that it's not worth fighting over every tiny issue - it's a waste of your time. If the rest of Misplaced Pages is doing something (like using the term "populated place" in category names), why fight it? Just go with it. It doesn't really matter anyway. Being grumpy, ranting about it, and generally showing ] behaviour, isn't really going to make anyone happy, including yourself.
	::::::And yes, I think you'd do well to consider subscribing to ]. ] (]) 18:55, 20 July 2011 (UTC)
	:::::::The funny thing is that these "tiny issues" are a waste of time for pretty much all people involved and lead to nothing constructive no matter what the outcome is. They affect no one but the editors working on the administrative-territorial divisions of Russia (which most of the time, unfortunately, happens to be just me) and the readers who are interested in understanding this topic in any kind of depth (which there aren't that numerous either), yet the people complaining about them and chasing me around belong to neither of those two groups. I have no problem with Misplaced Pages using artificial or arbitrary constructs to name the upper-level categories which contain artificial or arbitrary collections of things (like most, if not all, of the "populated places in Foo" cats). I am, however, very much against transferring these arbitrary conventions to the article space or to the names of categories which are supposed to be based on articles. That's a fight worth fighting, because the quality of the encyclopedia is at stake.
	:::::::I wish I could just ignore these things and merrily go about contributing stuff in a haphazard manner, but there is so much material involved that the importance of organizing it all efficiently is paramount, yet the organizational efforts is those folks' primary target. Hell, of course any organizational structure can always be improved! It shouldn't be improved for the sake of improvement, though; the improvements should affect the actual articles or solve actual problems! Yet it never ends. Six years ago an editor wanted, among a bunch of other silly things, to rename most first-level administrative divisions of all non-English-speaking countries to "provinces" regardless of whether that's the term used by the sources or not; three years ago the argument was about how the term "settlement" is the best one, like, ever, and should be used whenever possible (my opposition to that, by the way, played a part in editors finally gathering together and replacing "settlements" with more sensible, although not perfect, "populated places"); now we have a similar group arguing that "populated places" is the way to go, always and regardless of regional peculiarities and preferences. It's almost seems like we have a group of "editors" ] instead of contributing to articles.—]&nbsp;•&nbsp;(]); July&nbsp;20, 2011; 19:47 (UTC)
	::::::::Should I pressume that you are calling me an ] (a derogatory term I've never heard of), or were you referring to someone else? And I think it's a bit sad that you believe that "''the quality of the encyclopedia is at stake''", if we use the term "populated place" instead of "inhabited locality" in a category name. It's not even article content - it's a ''category name''. Sheesh. No wonder you seem so stressed. Sometimes you just have to learn to let it go. Changes like this can be done with bots, and most readers don't even know what categories are.. so it's really not worth worrying about. ] (]) 20:12, 20 July 2011 (UTC)
	:::::::::I am not calling ''you'' anything, I'm just ranting at no one in particular and you happen to be around (you can run while it's not too late :)). Also, while I did have several specific people in mind when making the ''apparatchik'' remark, you aren't one of them. However, if you think the shoe fits... well, that'd be sad, too.
	:::::::::Another sad thing is that you don't seem to realize that to an uninvolved person the problems of someone else always seem easy to fix and nothing of significance is ever at stake. The bigger picture only starts to uncover once you dig deeper (and in this case, ''a lot'' deeper). Problem is, most of my opponents not only aren't willing to dig deeper, they aren't willing to dig at all, aren't interested in hearing out the counter-arguments, and generally don't give any sort of fuck about the content affected by the changes. All they are interested in is their opinions, which they aren't even willing to substantiate or to explain how they are better on the content side. Did you notice how I usually deconstruct each and every argument thrown at me? And did you notice how nothing of the sort ever comes back in return? The only things that come back in return are circular reasoning, "others do it differently and there are many more of them" sort of arguments, and "I have no idea what it's about but I'll oppose anyway" remarks (do prove me wrong). Ever tried to explain the importance of anything in such an environment?
	:::::::::Cat names aren't the only thing affected, by the way. Bogdan's ultimate goal is to rename a bunch of ''articles'' and to replace much of the terminology (here's the '']''; by all means, join), only he isn't willing to do any of the maintenance work himself. Successfully moved categories are one of his main "arguments" for changing articles. Are you still wondering why I am frustrated? He mentions bots, too. Bots, however, aren't magical beings which will fix everything for us; they need to be programmed properly, and the consequences of many of Bogdan's proposed changes wouldn't be easy to fix even with the bots. What gives?—]&nbsp;•&nbsp;(]); July&nbsp;20, 2011; 20:44 (UTC)
	::::::::::I think generally Misplaced Pages editors have open minds about things; I also think they generally do not want to engage in lengthy debates about things they don't care about.. but they might still weigh in and leave. 1000+ character-long posts ] by everyone who weighs into a dispute. In terms of convincing people of something, a concise, powerful, single sentence argument is going to be much more effective than a detailed multi-paragraph rant.
	::::::::::For example, after reading much of the discussion, I still don't understand the ] dispute.. this is an article about the different kinds of places where people live in Russia. The first sentence of the article has a citation needed tag.. the more pressing questions for me are: why do we have this article? (Would it survive an AfD?) Is the first sentence original research? (If not, what is the source of this information?) ] (]) 23:31, 20 July 2011 (UTC)
	:::::::::::Well, people not reading the discussions in which they participate is not a problem intrinsic to Misplaced Pages. One could argue that's the whole reason why democracy never works as well as it's supposed to! It is, however, an interesting question why some people find it compelling to contribute to a discussion about a topic they neither care nor know about... is it just to be heard? If so, such !votes should be weighed accordingly.
	:::::::::::Regarding the article, yours are the questions I can live with and are very good questions to ask. I'm not sure why the first sentence has a citation needed tag, though. That sentence serves as a ]&mdash;a summary of the article written with a higher degree of generality, and as such ]. Lead citations are usually needed only when the lead statements are controversial or aren't otherwise supported by what the main article says. Do you find that the lead does not summarize the article contents? Does the article give no indication that the classification system used in Russia indeed possesses some peculiarities other countries lack? Of course, one sentence makes a sucky lead in any case, the article itself is far from being complete, and one could argue that ''any'' country's classification system is peculiar in its own way. So, if you have a better suggestion about how the lead should be worded, go right ahead.
	:::::::::::As for why we have this article, I'm not sure what you mean. Why do we have any articles at all? It's a valid encyclopedic topic, is it not? The classification exists; where else would we talk about it?—]&nbsp;•&nbsp;(]); July&nbsp;21, 2011; 14:08 (UTC)
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	Thanks for the heads up, I must admit, I was rather sad to hear it! What is the policy regarding former districts, obviously there would be the relevant comments in the articles for the districts into which they were absorbed, but is there scope for a "former districts" section in the Chukotka nav box? How would they be referred in the ] article? Are they listed separately as former districts, or expunged altogether? ] (]) 15:20, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
	:We don't have a policy about the former districts, nor do we have enough articles about them to establish how they are normally dealt with. I'd say do whatever feels right :) When we have more than a few such articles, we could start thinking about how to organize them best.
	:As for mentioning them elsewhere, the historical information like this indeed belongs in the "administrative divisions of XXX" articles. ] is a barebones liststub, but that's where the information ultimately should go (compare, for example, with how ] or ] are done). The navbox, that I'm not so sure about. It's probably OK to include the historical districts in Chukotka's, but for some other federal subjects the lists of historical districts will contain dozens and dozens names; including them all in addition to current districts would make the navboxes very unwieldy.—]&nbsp;•&nbsp;(]); July&nbsp;22, 2011; 15:34 (UTC)
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	Well, since criminals are related to law enforcement and the latter is related to politics we should use the Politics of Russia task force, isn't it? ] ] 15:24, 3 August 2011 (UTC)
	:That was my line of thought, too, but it is not obvious at the first glance and looks quite weird. Perhaps we should have a taskforce for all things legal?—]&nbsp;•&nbsp;(]); August&nbsp;3, 2011; 16:31 (UTC)
	::I thought about renaming "Politics of Russia task force" into something like "Politics and law of Russia task force" or "Politics and law enforcement in Russia task force".. ] ] 16:34, 3 August 2011 (UTC)
	:::That could work. "Law" is probably better than "law enforcement", as it is broader and could include legal stuff that would otherwise have to be put under "science".—]&nbsp;•&nbsp;(]); August&nbsp;3, 2011; 17:14 (UTC)
	::::Indeed, "Politics and law" is better. If you feel we need the change (personally I'm OK without it, but that's a matter of habit), please rename the relevant pages (though, what about the bot-generated content?). ] ] 17:24, 3 August 2011 (UTC)
	:::::I don't really have time for this now, but I'll add it to my to-do list for later (or, if you want to try taking care of this yourself, you are more than welcome to). I'm not sure about the bot-generated content either, but it should be easy enough to figure it out once we start digging. Cheers,—]&nbsp;•&nbsp;(]); August&nbsp;3, 2011; 17:45 (UTC)
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	Do you notice something wrong with the infobox ]? ] (]) 23:14, 3 August 2011 (UTC)
	:Hmm, not really... There are a couple minor things that could use a tweak, but overall it looks fine to me. Could you elaborate what's wrong? Thanks.—]&nbsp;•&nbsp;(]); August&nbsp;4, 2011; 13:13 (UTC)
	::I mean "rank within Russia". It is not really "2nd", is it? ] (]) 14:38, 4 August 2011 (UTC)
	:::Ah, my bad. I've made the corrections. Of course, the rank should be the same as on the page the link is pointing to. Thanks!—]&nbsp;•&nbsp;(]); August&nbsp;4, 2011; 15:24 (UTC)
	::::Yes, thanks, but it is only a short-term solution, which will last until someone else introduces the same very likely error again. The last one survived long enough to worry about it. ] (]) 15:34, 4 August 2011 (UTC)
	:::::Well, editors just need to pay attention to what it is they are changing :) I sure screwed up myself this time, but that's not a good excuse.—]&nbsp;•&nbsp;(]); August&nbsp;4, 2011; 15:38 (UTC)
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	Hi Ezhiki! I noticed that the current infobox for Russian federal districts seems to be outdated and somewhat ugly when compared to the ones found in other articles, so I tried to rework it a little, and since you've been here quite a bit longer than I have and you edit many Russian-related articles, I wanted to ask you for an opinion. Do you think that my edit (which you can find ]) is an improvement over the current version? Thank you for your time! --] (]) 01:08, 6 August 2011 (UTC)
	:Hi, Lady Pablo! First of all, thank you for your time and interest in this! It's always good to have another pair of eyes looking at these templates.
	:As for the re-design itself, I'm really of two minds about it. I do very much like that your version is not as tall as the current one and that it looks a lot cleaner overall (design and visual appeals are not really my fortes :)). On the down side, I've noticed the following:
	:*your version has no grouping headings, which makes particular groups of data harder to find&mdash;it all just flows continuously. Mind you, I'm not saying that the current green blobs are the best way to address this, but some sort of grouping cues would certainly be helpful. I just don't think separators alone do the job well enough.
	:*the new version is a wrapper around {{tl|Infobox Settlement}}. In the interests of full disclosure, I should note that I've never been a fan of that particular infobox. One ''can'' do a lot of things with it, sure, but only some of those things would be done well, and there is little flexibility in ''how'' things can be done (it's kind of like Apple products :)). What's especially hard to control is where a particular line would go in the overall structure (with your example, for instance, the names in English and Russian really shouldn't be split by the federal subject type descriptor, and the flag and coat of arms should follow the map, not precede it). Of course, with some ingenuity, one can make certain lines appear in certain places, but that same effect can be achieved a lot easier by using generic building blocks instead. Now, don't take me wrong, the current version is ''not'' an epitome of flexibility. It is quite the opposite, but that's because it is the last of the templates on my to-do list which I was planning to re-design until you beat me to it :) My idea was to use the same approach as in, for example, {{tl|Infobox Russian district}}, which is built solely on the generic {{tl|Infobox}} template and where re-arranging the building blocks or adding new ones can be done in a snap.
	:*I haven't looked at the code closely, but I've noticed that while you are passing the 2002 Census parameters to the template, they don't all show up in the output. I understand how showing both the 2002 Census and 2010 Census results seems redundant, but right now it's a necessity, because the 2010 results aren't yet finalized. Once they are, the 2002 Census lines can be taken out completely, including from the template code. The "latest" population, would still be there, of course (right now it is the 2010 Census results which are the latest, so that parameter is never filled out).
	:This is probably a lot more feedback than you hoped for, but I hope it's constructive. I'll be thrilled to hear your opinion in more detail in return! Cheers,—]&nbsp;•&nbsp;(]); August&nbsp;8, 2011; 14:01 (UTC)
	::I have made a few changes ] (the new version is the one in the middle). Cheers, ] (]) 00:28, 9 August 2011 (UTC)
	:::I think this should work! It certainly looks much nicer than the current version. Thank you! Just a few minor things:
	:::*the head/governor information should come before legislature, as is customary;
	:::*the head, head name, legislature, and administrative center lines lost their reference tags;
	:::*the area figure needs to be dated, because borders do occasionally change, and the value is used to calculate the population density (possibly using the population count from a different year when nothing better is available);
	:::*the density line lost its explanatory note, and since it is bundled with the rest of the census data, one can get an impression that the value of density also comes from the census sheets, which is not true;
	:::*with "urban" vs. "rural", it's just "rural", not "rural area". The percentage shows the urban/rural ''population'' distribution, not the ''area'' distribution;
	:::*the "website" line probably doesn't need the "website" label. What do you think about just centering it as it is done in the district infobox?
	:::*"languages" should really be "official languages", otherwise the label gives an impression that all of the major languages spoken in the federal subject should be listed there;
	:::*I'm not sure about the location of the "holiday" line at the very bottom;
	:::*are you planning to try out wrapping this template around {{tld|Infobox}}, or is this your final version?
	:::Regarding the order of the symbols vs the map, it's not so much about the preference, as it is about addressing the readers' needs. The image at the top of the infobox would often be the only image readers see when they first load the page (especially on smaller resolution screens), and the map immediately answers the question of "where", which is the first question readers looking to familiarize themselves with the topic would ask. The flag/coat look nice, but don't really answer any immediate questions, which is why it makes sense to move them down.
	:::Also, I would appreciate your opinion about the charter/constitution line. While each charter/constitution should ideally have their own article, currently none does, so the link on this line is always red. One could also argue that it is not the kind of link that's important in an infobox and is better covered by the text. Do you have an opinion about this?—]&nbsp;•&nbsp;(]); August&nbsp;9, 2011; 13:49 (UTC)
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	Suggest moving to ], the name under which the subject is venerated and which corresponds to other wikipedias. For some reasons sometimes I can move articles over redirect and sometimes can't, strange. ] ] 13:37, 10 August 2011 (UTC)
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	:You can only move an article over a redirect when that redirect constitutes the whole editing history. "Gennady of Novgorod" has a bot edit on top of the original redirect, which requires deletion.
	:I have moved the article to match the naming scheme in ]. There are also a couple more parenthesized titles in that cat you might want to look at, but most are titled "Religionist of Foo", so it makes perfect sense to unify them all that way. Cheers,—]&nbsp;•&nbsp;(]); August&nbsp;10, 2011; 13:42 (UTC)
	::Yeah, I'll look at other titles, and thanks for the move and explanation. ] ] 13:47, 10 August 2011 (UTC)
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	Hi, Ezhiki. Could you help me nominate the article ] for ]? Please put this article on the appropriate page of the Misplaced Pages. After you had done it last time, this article ] as one of the Social sciences and society good articles under the good article criteria. So it seems to me that you bring luck. I have improved the article since its recent nomination. Thank you in advance. ] (]) 21:56, 10 August 2011 (UTC)
	:I don't know about good luck&mdash;you'd probably be better off thanking the person who did the GA review! All I did was add a line to a page where it was then picked up by a bot :)
	:As for the FAC submission, I'll be happy to help with it as well, but please note that before an article can be nominated, it should undergo a ]. The process consists of five easy steps, and while I can certainly submit the article for peer review for you, it makes more sense if you do it yourself, because it's you who'll be the one answering the questions and addressing concerns anyway. Once the peer review is finished, the article can be moved on to FAC.
	:By the way, great job on expanding that article! It's a very interesting and educational read. Cheers,—]&nbsp;•&nbsp;(]); August&nbsp;11, 2011; 13:38 (UTC)
	::The point is that corresponding articles related to this topic in the Russian Misplaced Pages were the subject of a long conflict between users and were considered as a challenge to struggle for preventing them from being nominated for the good or featured articles. I would not like the English Misplaced Pages to have the same conflict. That is why I would like you to submit this article for peer review and help me. ] (]) 18:59, 12 August 2011 (UTC)
	:::Unless you are being stalked by your opponents from ru_wiki, I don't see why you would have the same problems here, and it would be you fending off the questions which will come up during the peer review anyway. Submitting a nomination involves going through five mostly procedural (and easy) steps, but if you insist, I'll submit it for peer review next week. Cheers,—]&nbsp;•&nbsp;(]); August&nbsp;12, 2011; 19:03 (UTC)
	::::From my previous experience, I know that the procedure for peer reviewing and nominating an article is difficult and brings a user nothing but stress at best or blocks at worst. To start this procedure, I need to feel at least a little bit of moral support that I don’t feel now. Putting an article on the page for peer review can be a sort of moral support. Maybe I’ll nominate this article in half a year. Thanks. ] (]) 21:50, 12 August 2011 (UTC)
	:::::If me nominating this article for peer review would count as moral support and help you deal with the questions better, then I will gladly do so :) I was just making sure. Cheers,—]&nbsp;•&nbsp;(]); August&nbsp;12, 2011; 21:52 (UTC)
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	Ezhiki even if we disagree on that references thing I wanted to let you know that I appreciate your input and believe that the template has improved because of it! Let's work together again some time soon ok?
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	:What an ugly little creature :) Thanks!
	:Just so you know, I do appreciate your input and effort just as much (even though it probably doesn't show :)) The template has certainly improved, and disagreements are a part of progress. I'll be happy to work with you in the future. Cheers,—]&nbsp;•&nbsp;(]); August&nbsp;12, 2011; 14:27 (UTC)
	:<small>Give Ezhiki a hedgehog next time ;) Or better a big beautiful porcupine ))) ] ] 15:45, 12 August 2011 (UTC) </small>
	::{{small|No, not a porcupine! ]—]&nbsp;•&nbsp;(]); August&nbsp;12, 2011; 15:54 (UTC)}}
	:::<small>OMG whatwasdat ?&!? Pork&pine? That's indeed would be toooo much unhealthy attitude ;))) </small> ] ] 16:11, 12 August 2011 (UTC)
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	Suggest moving to ]. This would correspond better to the naming of Russian article; MKAD is an abbreviation not widely used or recognizable outside of Russia. ] ] 22:01, 14 August 2011 (UTC)
	:By the way, currently there are several Russia-related requested moves under discussion. ] ] 10:45, 15 August 2011 (UTC)
	::So, it it going to be "Moscow Ring Road", or "Moscow ring road"? :) I suggest we wait for the outcome of the St.&nbsp;Petersburg Ring Road request before the move. Myself, I don't have a preference either way (shocking, eh? :))—]&nbsp;•&nbsp;(]); August&nbsp;16, 2011; 13:42 (UTC)
	:::OK! ] ] 16:17, 16 August 2011 (UTC)
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	==Nagatinsky Zaton==
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	:Btw again, Nagatinsky Zaton is capitalized in the Russian wiki. And a number of official cites use capitalized version. Given this inconsistency, I'd suggest to use capitalized version since it is more in accordance with general naming customs. ] ] 13:37, 15 August 2011 (UTC)
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	::Well, Russian wiki is hardly an authoritative source, and the official websites screw up every now and then, too. The applicable laws of Moscow is where the correct spelling should be looked up, and those consistently do not capitalize "zaton". Even with , if you look closer, you'll see that only the website header has the word capitalized, and the actual texts . The GKS simply capitalized it wrong&mdash;even the bureaucrats don't pay that much attention to the details when those details aren't the primary focus of the document!—]&nbsp;•&nbsp;(]); August&nbsp;15, 2011; 13:44 (UTC)
	:::There is also the problem of consistency with general English place naming customs, which strongly prefer capitalized names. I'm not sure why we should strictly follow the laws of Moscow in this case. The popular usage of capitalized version even in Russian official sources give us an excuse to ignore those laws and uphold the general naming style, and we can't follow those laws to the letter anyway, because we use Moscow and not Moskva. ] ] 13:54, 15 August 2011 (UTC)
	::Looking closer at all those official cites I found they use both versions extensively, often at the same page. Looking on the results of the Google search the capitalized version seems to be more popular. ] ] 13:57, 15 August 2011 (UTC)
	::::Why? Because it is the the laws which specify what the correct name is, and we, as an encyclopedia, should be striving to use what's correct? Moskva vs. Moscow isn't really a valid analogy, because the use of "Moscow" can be verified by literally thousands of independent reliable English sources, while the name of this district would only be found in a handful of publications most of which are neither reliable nor even on the subject of the district's name. In other words, there is no "common English name" to use, and in such cases we normally romanize the official name verbatim (including the choice of capitalization). Doing otherwise would be original research on our part.—]&nbsp;•&nbsp;(]); August&nbsp;15, 2011; 14:04 (UTC)
	:::::Than why we capitalize District if "район" is not capitalized in the Russian texts? Your approach has this obvious fallacy. Why in some cases we apply general English language rules and in other cases ignore it, just because of a little inconsistency in Russian sources which has no serious consequences for Russian usage, but give birth to strange monsters in English? ] looks way too funny, sorry. Capitalized - non-capitalized - capitalized - this is totally against the English language naming style, according to my experience. In fact, such capitalization sequence is against almost any language naming style I suppose. Capitalized descriptor, which is of lower significance, and non-capitalized part of the name, which is of higher significance. ] ] 14:29, 15 August 2011 (UTC)
	::::::There is no fallacy. The word "district" is not a part of the proper name; it is a designation, and it is customary to capitalize designations in English. We do the same with "Street", "Oblast", etc. Designations are ''translated'', while proper names are ''romanized''. What's more, we have a certain leeway in choosing what the designation could be (for example, we stick with "district" when we refer to the raions in Russia, but the Ukrainian Wikiproject went with "raion" instead, even though there hardly is any difference between the two concepts), while we have no leeway with what the proper name should be&mdash;it is either what's commonly used in English, or, as in this case where no common English variant exists, we follow the guidelines the community previously agreed on (the transliteration clause of ]). As you can see, the case is pretty well covered by the existing guidelines, and changing the absolutely correct spelling to something else just to fit some vague "style" concerns is simply not my idea of encyclopedicity. Just because a bunch of folks out there can't spell the name right doesn't mean we should follow them on the path off the cliff :)—]&nbsp;•&nbsp;(]); August&nbsp;15, 2011; 14:45 (UTC)
	:::::::Why should we romanize ignoring English naming customs (there seems to be no such proper names or expressions using the discussed capitalization scheme)? This seems to be a clear case of guideline inconsistency. Also, consider the scheme of naming hydronyms in English where the descriptor is always capitalized: ], ], ] etc. "Zaton" is also a hydronym descriptor, and as hydronym Nagatinsky Zaton should be capitalized, isn't it? ] ] 14:56, 15 August 2011 (UTC)
	::::::::While the word "zaton" on its own is indeed a hydronym descriptor, the article is not about a hydrological feature, it is about a district named after that feature (cf. ]&mdash;an article about a metro station named after a street; the article about the actual street would be under ]). In this case, "zaton" is a part of a proper name, and we never translate proper names&mdash;we either romanize them, or use whatever common English name that exists and can be verified. Since there is no common English name for this district, we romanize the official Russian name in full accordance with ] (which says nothing about "English naming customs" on top of straight romanization). I see no inconsistency here whatsoever. I'm not aware of any guidelines which would put style issues over encyclopedic accuracy.—]&nbsp;•&nbsp;(]); August&nbsp;15, 2011; 15:09 (UTC)
	:::::::::So you mean that as hydronym ] is capitalized, but as a part of the district name it is not capitalized? You drive me mad %)
	:::::::::] doesn't say anything about capitalizing District or River, but nevertheless we always do it because there are general rules for English usage which are above guidelines. ] says: ''In deciding whether and how to translate a foreign name into English, follow English-language usage. If there is no established English-language treatment for a name, translate it if this can be done without loss of accuracy and with greater understanding for the English-speaking reader.'' We have to translate "район" in the discussed case, and in case of "затон" we should do a little minor thing - capitalize it for the greater understanding and consistency. Since capitalization doesn't hinder search, there is no problems with accuracy or encyclopedicity. Problems with accuracy or encyclopedicity would be if we claim that "Нагатинский Затон" is the official Russian name (and we wouldn't be entirely incorrect), but when translating it into English we should care of capitalization much less and not enforce Russian version over general English usage. ] ] 15:23, 15 August 2011 (UTC)
	::::::::::At the risk of driving you mad even further, no, that's only a part of what I'm saying :) The article about the hydrological feature would probably not be named "Nagatinsky Zaton"; it would be named "Nagatinsky XXX", where "XXX" is the best English term to which the Russian word "{{lang|ru|затон}}" translates (sorry, I'm drawing a blank on the actual translation. "Cove"?). Whether "XXX" itself should be capitalized depends solely on the conventions regarding the naming of similar hydrological features the community had previously agreed upon. I'd guess it probably would be, if the conventions for rivers, lakes, etc. are of any indication.
	::::::::::As for WP:UE, you are not looking at the applicable part of it. What it says is ''f there are too few English-language sources to constitute an established usage, follow the conventions of the language appropriate to the subject'', which in this case means "do not capitalize 'zaton'". It further says that ''ames not originally in a Latin alphabet, such as Greek, Chinese, or Russian names, must be transliterated''. Adding one and one, we are transliterating the proper name, and we follow the conventions of the Russian language. The part about ''deciding whether and how to translate'' does not apply because we never ever ''translate'' proper Russian names. We either romanize them, or we use an established common English name (which isn't at all the same as "translating"; "translating" would be referring to ] as "Lower Newcity" despite "Nizhny Novgorod" being an established English usage). We do, of course, translate the descriptors, but as I previously mentioned, descriptors aren't a part of the proper names, and the decision of whether to capitalize them or not is based solely on the concept-specific guidelines we have.—]&nbsp;•&nbsp;(]); August&nbsp;15, 2011; 15:53 (UTC)
	:::::::::::] doesn't say anything directly about capitalization. When it recommends to romanize or to translate it doesn't say we should capitalize or not capitalize. That's why we should turn to common sense, to established practices and to other guidelines (such as ]), or to take ]'s own general recommendations and use them as to the question of capitalization. Why do you think the phrase ''f there are too few English-language sources to constitute an established usage, follow the conventions of the language appropriate to the subject'' refers to the conventions of Russian language and not English, or to the conventions of Russian language only? And why Russian language conventions should override general English conventions especially if we can easily avoid it (again, technically capitalization doesn't affect usability)?
	:::::::::::As for the word "затон" I'm not sure it should be translated to English at all, because it combines the meanings of ] and ], and I'm not sure that backwater is used as a descriptor of hydronym names in English.
	:::::::::::See again, the capitalization sequence in ] is inacceptable. Firstly the entire expression could be considered a proper name and therefore should be capitalized in English (]). If we consider just ] a proper name and District a standalone descriptor, we again should capitalize Zaton. If we consider zaton to be a descriptor (as it is done in Russian), than there rises a question (in the case of English usage) why we capitalize one descriptor but do not capitalize another descriptor (and, importantly, preceding descriptor amidst an expression)? ] ] 16:44, 15 August 2011 (UTC)
	:Btw, did you notice the above talk section about MKAD? ] ] 16:47, 15 August 2011 (UTC)
	::::::::::::WP:UE is fairly all-encompassing when it says to ''follow the conventions of the language appropriate to the subject''; to me, that includes all sorts of things, including capitalization. Additionally, when we romanize a word, we always retain its capitalization, so that's not a good argument either. If we don't retain capitalization, then we are doing something else, something which is not romanization or transliteration {{small|and I'd argue it's called "original research" :)}}
	::::::::::::The phrase ''f there are too few English-language sources to constitute an established usage, follow the conventions of the language appropriate to the subject'' refers in this case to the conventions of the Russian language and not English because of what follows that sentence ('' German for German politicians, Portuguese for Brazilian towns, and so on'').
	::::::::::::On translating/not translating the word "zaton", I really have no opinion. However, whether we translate it or not, as long as it is used as a descriptor and not as a part of a proper name, its capitalization would be decided by the conventions we apply to the names of similar hydrological features.
	::::::::::::The rest of the guidelines you found would not apply because WP:UE is a policy (which is crystal clear about how to deal with this situation), and policies take priority over the guidelines.
	::::::::::::Finally, on the MKAD, I have no objections. I'm leaving for today, but I'll take care of it tomorrow, if you don't mind.—]&nbsp;•&nbsp;(]); August&nbsp;15, 2011; 17:04 (UTC)
	:::::::::::::General English language capitalization practices are above Misplaced Pages guidelines. Well, I see your logic and respect your opinion, but it seems I should file a move request. ] ] 17:12, 15 August 2011 (UTC)
	::::::::::::::(I'm still here for a few minutes). General English capitalization practices are not above the Misplaced Pages guidelines because there is no such thing as "general English capitalization practices" anyway. There are various style guides which often recommend contradictory things, which is why we have our own guidelines to deal with the most common situations in a uniform manner. If we didn't know 100% what the correct spelling in Russian is, or if the laws were contradictory on this point (as they are, every now in then, in other cases), I'd move this article to a capitalized version myself. "When in doubt, follow the general style"&mdash;I am a strong proponent of this approach. In this case, however, there is no doubt whatsoever on what the correct Russian name is, and our policy says flat out to "follow the conventions of the language" (romanizing it first, because the name is not in Latin alphabet). I can see how it is tempting to capitalize "zaton" anyway, but that would be neither honest to the encyclopedic spirit, nor logical. Logic, sadly, is one thing that fails and gets ignored often during the move requests...—]&nbsp;•&nbsp;(]); August&nbsp;15, 2011; 17:41 (UTC)
	:::::::::::::::Capitalizing less important and less "proper" part of the name while not capitalizing more important and more proper one is not exactly logical. And again, romanization and capitalization are different things. ] ] 17:54, 15 August 2011 (UTC)
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	Hi Ezhiki, greetings again - hope you're having a good summer. At ] there is a mention of an airfield at Dmitriyevka () in Orenburg Oblast, which I cannot find. Would it be possible to look up the details for this Dmitriyevka and add it to the set index article? Kind regards ] ] 16:37, 15 August 2011 (UTC)
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	:Sure, will do. There are, however, five rural localities called "Dmitriyevka" in Orenburg Oblast, so if you have anything to add, it might help. Cheers,—]&nbsp;•&nbsp;(]); August&nbsp;15, 2011; 16:45 (UTC)
	::Thanks. I was careful to give you everything I had. Only other thing is that it obviously has an airfield in the vicinity. Sorry I can't help further... ] ] 17:00, 15 August 2011 (UTC)
	:::No problem; I haven't even started looking when I asked the question :) I've greatly expanded the ] set index. The Dmitriyevka you need is ]. Will this work for you, or do you need me to create that stub as well? Thanks.—]&nbsp;•&nbsp;(]); August&nbsp;16, 2011; 16:45 (UTC)
	::::Thank you so much. I've now located the airfield article at ], purely by chance. Is Chebenki/Dmitrevika in Sakmarsky District ? ] ] 17:00, 16 August 2011 (UTC)
	:::::Hmm, this is getting a little confusing :) What is the airfield called exactly, do you know? Dmitriyevka is located in Sakmarsky District, but the settlement of Chebenki is in neighboring Orenburgsky District. The airfield is located at some distance from them both, although it is closer to Dmitiryevka than it is to the settlement of Chebenki (and it is in Sakmarsky District). I'll move the air base article to ] and put a dab page at ], but let me know if there's anything else I can help with. Cheers,—]&nbsp;•&nbsp;(]); August&nbsp;16, 2011; 17:11 (UTC)
	::::::Sorry, as you've probably realised, I'm just working from the neglected work of long-departed ]. See ]. Sorry I can't help further. ] ] 17:14, 16 August 2011 (UTC)
	:::::::Ah, I've never seen that statement. It helps clarify the overall state of things quite a bit; thanks. Don't hesitate to let me know if you think of anything else I can help with. Cheers,—]&nbsp;•&nbsp;(]); August&nbsp;16, 2011; 17:19 (UTC)
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	I might bore you with all those move requests, but I hope you like this one more than the others. ] moved ] to ], apparently not realising the fact that the name is an ]atic historical term. I've talked to Chaosdruid and he seems not to object to the idea of revert, but is reluctant to see for the procedure himself. Could you fix the name of the article? Cheers! ] ] 21:43, 15 August 2011 (UTC)
	:Ah, sorry, we have already fixed the issue ourselves. For some reason I was able to move the article to the old title. ] ] 22:32, 15 August 2011 (UTC)
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	Hello! Like you, I learned in Russian/Soviet school. Moreover, I live in Russia. Therefore I know that the Russian/Soviet dictionaries translate town as город, and посёлок as settlement. However, they are based on the United Kingdom realities of the XX century. Such dictionaries never are written from scratch nowadays. A new dictionary is simply an old dictionary with some extensions.
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	The word "settlement" has much wider meaning than посёлок now:
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	Today the word "town" better corresponds to "посёлок", although these words are not fully equivalent. ] (]) 04:56, 17 August 2011 (UTC)
	:Hi there! Thanks for your comment, but I think we are talking about completely different things here. I don't at all disagree with the points you mentioned above&mdash;they are entirely correct. The problem is that you are talking about how Russians translate the English ''word'' "town", while the article in question deals with the ''concept'' of a town, and the "Russia" section deals with the ''concept'' of a town in Russia. The concept is, of course, described by the Russian word "{{lang|ru|город}}", which in turn can be translated as either "city" or "town", which is what the statement in question is about. Perhaps the sentence should be revised to make its meaning more clear, but it is most certainly neither wrong nor obsolete.
	:The "factual errors" I was referring to in my edit summary are with regards to the criteria an inhabited locality needs to meet in order to qualify for the city/town status. In your revision, you state that ''in Russia, a settlement can become city (''gorod'') only if it has more than 12000 inhabitants and the occupation of no less than 85% of inhabitants must be other than agriculture.'' That was true in the Soviet times, but is no longer the case after the adoption of the 1993 Constitution. Currently, the criteria are set by each federal subject individually; there is no federal regulation to that effect. While it is true that many federal subjects retained the Soviet set of criteria in some form, others did in fact diverge from it (in Khabarovsk Krai, for example, the 12,000 population limit is retained for the towns of district significance, but the limit for the towns of krai significance is 50,000, and the agricultural aspect is no longer numerically defined, while in Dagestan there is no district/republican aspect and the threshold is 50,000 for all cities/town; the agricultural aspect is also not explicitly defined).
	:Hope this clarifies the rationale behind my edit. Cheers,—]&nbsp;•&nbsp;(]); August&nbsp;17, 2011; 13:40 (UTC)
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	Hi Ezhiki. Can you create a dab page for this? I created an article on the town in Sakha but there are others with the same name.♦ ] 17:11, 18 August 2011 (UTC)
	:Done.
	:On an unrelated note, may I ask when you are planning to finish your work on the districts of Russia? Some of those are a horrendous mess, and need fixing ASAP. Why didn't you ask me to create proper templates for them at least? You know I would have been happy to oblige (witness my earlier collaboration with Starzynka). Right now we have several hundred useless stubs which add nothing of value to what is said on the corresponding "administrative divisions of..." pages, and what little they do add is either incorrect or improperly attributed. This was very disappointing, what you did... Did they replace you with the evil Blofeld from several years ago or something? :)—]&nbsp;•&nbsp;(]); August&nbsp;18, 2011; 17:18 (UTC)
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	That's not very nice, seems as I spent several hours creating them, and that they are set up with the population, area and others ready to be expanded. I gather you haven't clicked edit on the pages and seen what is hidden? I tried to create them to they are in a position in which they are can be easily expanded. Of course nothing is perfect for you and you pick out the negative things, like in some districts it may be an urban type settlement others a rural being the seat but is minimal I think. The 1989, 2002 and 2009/2010 templates are there to simply be added to. ♦ ] 17:23, 18 August 2011 (UTC)
	:Not very nice? Are you pulling my leg or something? Let me say this once again&mdash;we have ''several hundred'' stubs which are either incorrect or improperly attributed. Every single one of them needs to be corrected. Every. Single. One. (well, OK, maybe 90%, but still). And until someone actually corrects them, they'll just sit there spreading misinformation. Spending several hours on something like that is nothing to be proud of!—]&nbsp;•&nbsp;(]); August&nbsp;18, 2011; 17:29 (UTC)
	::You know you come across as a major control freak. Unless anything is done your way you scoff at it. And don't give me the usual rant about being a "one man band" and how thou art not create an article on a Russian subject because Master Ezhiki can't take the "hrrendous workload". We should have had articles on the districts at least five years ago. As they stand they are in a position to be expanded. Of course it would help if I spoke Russian fluently and could fully expand them all. Anyway I recall asking you to help me create the remaining districts a while back and you weren't interested. ♦ ] 17:34, 18 August 2011 (UTC)
	:::So where are these errors enmasse then Ezhiki? Or are they simply minor issues which can be corrected when population and data is added? What is so hugely wrong about . ♦ ] 17:36, 18 August 2011 (UTC)
	::::Blof, this isn't about stuff being done "my way". While it is true that I have very high standards which are not always easy to meet, and that I prefer to take time to do something right once instead of going about it in iterations, in this case that's not about it all. Nor is this about the "workload" which I allegedly can't take. This is about the fact that you have created hundreds of articles which are '''factually wrong''' and '''incorrectly attributed''', and instead of admitting it you are trying to counter-blame me. If someone pointed out to me that hundreds of articles I recently created have glaring mistakes, I'd be on top of it fixing things the next minute! You, instead, are trying to accuse me of being a "control freak". Take a responsibility for your mess for a change, will ya? Making two factual mistakes in a sentence that states three things and is attributed to an unrelated source is hardly a valuable contribution. As for me not being interested, that's not true at all. I may not have time to do them all myself, but I would have happily created templates like for you to work with, if you only had asked...—]&nbsp;•&nbsp;(]); August&nbsp;18, 2011; 17:47 (UTC)
	:::::''Please'' tell me how is much different. I don't seme to recall you leaving a message on my talk page of these huge errors apparent across 90% of the articles. So why didn't you tell me then. Why it is only now you bring it up if its that huge a problem? Because you were so pissed off you'd have blown your lid and said something you regretted or because maybe its not as huge an issue as you imply? As far as I can see all the articles need is to go through them and for data and links to be added and the occasional changing of urban type settlement to rural type settlement. You assume I would not be willing to go through them, have you actually ''asked'' for crying out loud? I could quite easily go through the oblasts already created and add in ready made templates if that's what you want but as I said I fail to see the difference between your ready made templates and my parameters which I've hidden.♦ ] 17:50, 18 August 2011 (UTC)
	::::::There is nothing ''terribly'' wrong about Glushkovsky District, but that's one of those where skipping the references altogether was actually a wiser solution than adding a reference which does not apply. Minor problems (which are, however, not so minor once you multiply them by several hundred) include the implication that the administrative center is an urban-type settlement (which for this particular district it is, but for about half of other districts is not), using the accent mark in the interwiki template, and encouraging entering the 2009 population estimate instead of the more recent data. On top of that, the visible text adds nothing to what the ] already says, and the parts which are commented out could have included many more useful things on which it would have been easier to expand later (and that's the difference between your template and mine).
	::::::An example of more serious problems would be something like ], which incorrectly states that it is both an administrative and municipal district and attributes that misinformation to a source that does not even deal with the municipal aspect. I'd say 50% error rate in an article composed of a single sentence is a problem, no?
	::::::As for me not pointing this out to you sooner, until today I was under the assumption that you were not yet done with those articles. See, I have hard time imagining how an editor worth his salt would consider this kind of sloppy job "done". I know that your approach to creating articles is different from mine, so I assumed that you'll continue later, and the mess is only temporary. Well, I guess not, eh? Why, indeed&mdash;it's so much easier to blame me for not jumping right on it to fix it for you! It's sad that you aren't even willing to take responsibility for this. I will, of course, fix it all in due course, but I'm not going to alter my editing schedule just because someone though that creating hundreds of stubs on a topic they don't know much about is a great idea and an improvement.—]&nbsp;•&nbsp;(]); August&nbsp;18, 2011; 18:14 (UTC)
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	:::::::What? I've begun going through the districts adding the link, maps and some things. I most certainly have not "finished". You say "It's sad that you aren't even willing to take responsibility for this." If you had noted I had not finished, then how can you spout such utter crap?? Yes I will need your help with population being added but I am well aware it is you who apparently wears the trousers in any situation. I wouldn't dream of even attempting to order you to do something, you've made it 200% clear everything has to be done your way and according to you. Besides should you consider attempting to add population and data for a raion I would be more than happy to do further preliminary work for you and quickly update the hidden parameters so they can easily be added to. If you could highlight those raions which have the inappropriate reference I can ask to see if an AWBer can remove the reference and "municipal" at least until I or you get around to expanding them.♦ ] 18:22, 18 August 2011 (UTC)
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	::::::::Ah, great, I'm glad we've at least cleared the pants business up.</sarcasm> Sarcasm aside, it's not so much about things being done my way; it's about things being done ''right''. You see the difference, do you not? Things can be done right in many different ways, and I don't think I ever bitched about someone doing things right, but differently from the way I would have done it myself. And certainly there is a difference between someone creating a template which does the job but which I think could have been improved in many ways from the start, and someone creating a template which is just plain wrong and misleading!
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	::::::::Anyway, if you are not done yet, then why didn't you just say so straight up instead of sending the abundance of compliments my way in your third comment of this thread?
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	::::::::Back to business. On identifying the districts which need to be corrected, you realize that it will take me hours to go through all of them and create a list of those which need to be corrected? In other words, about the same amount of time it would have taken me to go through them and just correct them myself... Arghhh!
	::::::::Still, a good place to start clean up would be Sverdlovsk Oblast. It has thirty administrative districts, but only five of them are also municipal districts. Another bulk change could be the removal of OKATO reference from the sentences which mention the municipal aspect. That reference can be moved to the "administrative" part, but it would be best to remove it completely, because for most federal subjects sources of better quality than OKATO exist.—]&nbsp;•&nbsp;(]); August&nbsp;18, 2011; 18:41 (UTC)
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	::::::::: I began adding to the first two raions I created the other day and intend to proceed through them all adding the maps/flags and a bit of data. I was well aware of the urban type settlements vs selo and had spotted the accent which yes irritated me when I noticed that. I figured that when it comes to be edited it wouldn't take much to add selo instead. As far as I saw there were many urban type settlements so it seemed plausible to create them like that. Yes I did look through many and saw the administrative and municipal and started assuming they were all like that, You'll notice though that many were not created with a source or the "municipal" part. I was aware of all of the issues you identified before creation and I figured that changing urban-type to selo and 2009 to 2010 or 2011 might not be that much of a pain. I did forget though to add the Panoh part in the infobox.. OK its far from ideal but the way I saw it is that some framework is there now to add the basic data and maps and it gives me something to work towards. Tell me which districts are also municipal and I'll fix em. The reference BTW is intended to be for the number of districts. If saying one of the 28 districts ref for example is wrong then why does the raion and district list ref the figure in the box? ♦ ] 18:50, 18 August 2011 (UTC)
	::::::::::OK, I see; thanks for the explanation.
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	::::::::::In Sverdlovsk Oblast, the districts which are both administrative and municipal are Baykalovsky, Kamyshlovsky, Nizhneserginsky, Slobodo-Turinsky, and Taborinsky. Thanks for taking care of that.
	::::::::::The number of administrative and municipal districts differs in some other federal subjects as well. The ref in the "administrative divisions of..." articles only references the number of administrative districts, and only per OKATO (which is not always current). Since the lists are titled "administrative divisions...", the municipal aspect is not covered at all, hence the ref is correct. Once the municipal aspect is described, those lists would look ] and are referenced differently, too.—]&nbsp;•&nbsp;(]); August&nbsp;18, 2011; 18:56 (UTC)
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	:::::::::::::Something aint right with ]. The Russian name and link seems wrong. lso Russian for ] seems to be okrug.♦ ] 19:41, 18 August 2011 (UTC)
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	::::::::::::::Are you trying to synchronize these articles with the Russian Misplaced Pages? If so, that's the problem. They are going about these articles differently. We consistently treat the articles about the ''administrative'' divisions as primary (because the municipal divisions are often formed on the basis of the administrative divisions), while they usually treat the ''municipal'' divisions as primary, but they don't always do it consistently, so some of those articles in ru-wiki are a complete mess. Normally, such synchronization works anyway because a great number of administrative and municipal districts match 1:1, but this is obviously not going to be the case for Sverdlovsk Oblast (to which Artinsky District, an administrative division, is a good illustration&mdash;municipally it is incorporated as Artinsky Urban Okrug, and ru-wiki does not have an article about the district).
	::::::::::::::With Alapayevsky District, the Russian article you linked to is about the ''flag'' of Alapayevskoye Urban Okrug (which the territory of Alapayevsky Administrative District is municipally incorporated as), but the article itself is also incorrectly titled "flag of Alapayevsky District" (which assumes that something called "Alapayevsky Municipal District" actually exists&mdash;it doesn't). The bottom line: there is no corresponding article in ru-wiki to use for interwiki purposes in this case.
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	::::::::::::::Another thing I would like to ask you is to please not copy the number of lower-level divisions from the "administrative divisions of..." articles. Those articles are based solely on OKATO, which is often outdated. There is little sense in proliferating that information into the actual articles, although, technically, doing so is not wrong (the information is attributed and can be verified). Each federal subject has laws on the administrative-territorial division, which are more up-to-date and accurate.—]&nbsp;•&nbsp;(]); August&nbsp;18, 2011; 19:57 (UTC)
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	:::::::::::::::Well I've fixed what you wanted. The ru versions as you say don't seme to match so I won't persist with adding the Russian and inter links. I will gradually go through the other raions I started.♦ ] 20:09, 18 August 2011 (UTC)
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	::::::::::::::::Thank you.—]&nbsp;•&nbsp;(]); August&nbsp;18, 2011; 20:11 (UTC)
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	::::::::::::::::::In Amur and Astrakhan Oblasts, the counts match (twenty administrative districts incorporated as twenty municipal districts in Amur Oblast and eleven administrative districts incorporated as eleven municipal districts in Astrakhan Oblast). In Belgorod Oblast, there are twenty-one administrative and nineteen municipal districts (Gubkinsky District is municipally incorporated as Gubkinsky Urban Okrug, and Starooskolsky District is municipally incorporated as Starooskolsky Urban Okrug; the rest match 1:1).
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	:::::::::::::::::::Montage images are usually appropriate for districts and provinces I find. Tomorrow I'll add the maps and flags to the Moscow articles and add infoboxes, maps and flags to those which are without them.♦ ] 21:14, 18 August 2011 (UTC)
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	::::::::::::::::::::Hmm, good point about the montages, although I can hardly think of an appropriate montage for the majority of the Russian districts. Most of them are basically a large decrepit village (or an urban-type settlement, or a town) surrounded by smaller decrepit villages with empty spaces in between :) Still, it's a possibility. I've added the image_view and image_caption parameters to the infobox.—]&nbsp;•&nbsp;(]); August&nbsp;19, 2011; 13:38 (UTC)
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			Hi. I'm looking for the proper Russian name for the above bay. A 1918 work uses the name Kitoboinaya Bay, but more recent works (mapcarta) give Kitoboynyy Bay for a bay once called Kitoboinaya on the southwest coast of Simishir Island in the Kuril Islands. I'm assuming Kitoboinaya Bay, on the east coast of Gizhigin Bay, would have the same modern name? I can't even find a map of Gizhigin Bay that even labels Kitoboinaya/Kitoboynyy Bay. Any help would be much appreciated. ] (]) 20:46, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
			:(Without looking at the map) It must be Китобойная бухта, which is Kitoboynaya Bay. Бухта (Bay) is feminine and requires Kitoboynaya. Kitoboyny Bay does not make sense. ] (]) 21:10, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
			:Thanks. I must've just seen the name for the settlement Kitoboynyy and assumed the bay in that area had the same name. Thanks for the help. ] (]) 21:24, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
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			] should not be romanized "Leypyasuo", but '''Leipäsuo''', look at ]. Same with ], '''Helylä'''; ], '''Jänisjärvi'''; ], '''Värtsilä''' etc. etc. etc.<br> ] (]) 20:22, 30 August 2023 (UTC)
			:Are you the same person who's been leaving me this message for the past ten years? :)
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			:"Leipäsuo" and such is not a "romanization". It's the original Karelian/Finnish spelling. But titles of articles about places in Russia, per ], either use conventional English names (for major places like Moscow that actually have one), or are romanized from the Russian spelling. Hence "Leypyasuo". Same with Khelyulya, Yanisyarvi, Vyartsilya, etc. etc. etc. Cheers,—]&nbsp;•&nbsp;(]); <span class="nowrap">August 31, 2023</span>; 01:36 (UTC) 01:36, 31 August 2023 (UTC)
			::Why then does the October Railway use the name form '''Leipäsuo''': ], but not (stupid) "Leypyasuo"? --] (]) 15:33, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
			:::Because that sign is in Russian and Finnish, targeting the local population and not the Anglophones this (English) Misplaced Pages does?—]&nbsp;•&nbsp;(]); <span class="nowrap">September 11, 2023</span>; 15:40 (UTC) 15:40, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
			::::What do you mean? The sign is in Russian and ''English'', because there is an arrow to the left ''Vyborg, Buslovskaya'' (with the correct romanization, because ''Бусловская'' is a Russian name, not Finnish, which would be ''Viipuri, Buslovskaja''), so look at the picture carefully, please: ]. To the right is an arrow to Saint Petersburg, which Finnish name is ].
			::::You cannot be ignorant of the fact that after the Winter War (1939-1940) and finally the Continuation War (1941-1944), the ''local population of Leipäsuo'' in the Leningrad region has been Russian, when the Finnish population had to move behind Finland's new eastern border: ] / ].
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			:::::The sign is not in ''English'' for the simple reason that the spelling does not match any ]. If other signs in the area are "in English", it simply shows that whoever made the signs was inconsistent. Note I'm saying "inconsistent" and not "wrong", because what they are doing may very well make perfect sense in the context the signs are used. English Misplaced Pages, however, operates in a completely different context, and whether you agree or disagree with the exact structure of ], there is a strong consensus that at least ''some'' of the many existing romanization systems should be used for Russian names of places which do not have a ]. None of those systems will give you "Leipäsuo" you want.—]&nbsp;•&nbsp;(]); <span class="nowrap">October 4, 2023</span>; 22:41 (UTC) 22:41, 4 October 2023 (UTC)
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			Please let me know if the 'ping' I sent you worked. It's on Estland/Livland, from over a decade ago. ] (]) 17:41, 31 August 2023 (UTC)
			:In worked, yes. I'm not sure what you expect me to say though. Livland/Livonia variants are both used in English; I myself don't really have a preference and am happy to abide by whatever consensus if/when one arises. "Governorate", on the other hand, is used because we, as an encyclopedia, cover all sorts of Russian Empire's administrative divisions, and it helps to have structure, even if sometimes that leads to a less common variant being used (but let's be honest&mdash;"less common" in this case means a usage difference between two already obscure variants anyway!). The Empire had "governorates" (губернии) and "provinces" (провинции) and "oblasts" (области; often translated as "provinces"), and it can all be very confusing to an uninitiated reader as it is. Just try writing an overview article about the divisions of the Empire across its long history without standardizing the terminology and see how that goes! Starting to cherrypick governorates which happen to be better known as "provinces" and moving the articles around is just going to create more havoc for only a marginal benefit. Furthermore, there is nothing, and I mean ''nothing'' preventing us from mentioning in the article's lede and/or body that a particular "governorate" is also being referred to as "province" in literature; in fact, that's encouraged.—]&nbsp;•&nbsp;(]); <span class="nowrap">August 31, 2023</span>; 18:14 (UTC) 18:14, 31 August 2023 (UTC)
			::Totally agree! I think since 15 years or so (maybe a bit more even), historians of the Russian empire have started to appreciate the very specific historical realities that certain administrative units brought with them. Alongside the many differences created by various types of social and legal statuses of subjects of course. So whenever someone uses 'province' because it's easy, it doesn't mean they don't understand the importance of the different terms. Depending on the centrality of the terms to their argument, they might just dedicate a kind of 'disclaimer' in the introduction. Anyway, carry on then. I simply thought you might like to hear that at least I think you were very right to call people on their naive use of google. Keep it up! ] (]) 18:40, 31 August 2023 (UTC)
			:::Thank you for stopping by; appreciated :)—]&nbsp;•&nbsp;(]); <span class="nowrap">September 1, 2023</span>; 01:01 (UTC) 01:01, 1 September 2023 (UTC)
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	::Hehe, well Ezhiki I am always honest. I only really insult the people I really dislike and you are far from being classed in that category. Yes, if I'm honest I think you like to be in control and on top of any situation and don't like having your sense of order disturbed but I know many people like that and they are highly organized and quite impressive people. We both know what each other are capable of and you know the purpose of the articles is not for them to remain useless as they are currently. There is a plan... I know the stubs seem lousy right now but its more a psychological thing for me to think OK, stage 1 the articles are blue linked. For me it seems like there is less to do when the articles are already blue linked. While this is probably not true for me it gives us something to play with. The thing is Ezhiki I think of[REDACTED] like a world map conquest and an area missing at least the size of Europe seemed wrong.. . Anyway I will make a start with the aptly named Stavropol. Thanks.♦ ] 16:52, 19 August 2011 (UTC)
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• Voting for the Universal Code of Conduct Enforcement guidelines has closed, and the results were that 56.98% of voters supported the guidelines. The results of this vote mean the Wikimedia Foundation Board will now review the guidelines.

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Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 18:13, 7 April 2022 (UTC)

New administrator activity requirement

The administrator policy has been updated with new activity requirements following a successful Request for Comment.

Beginning January 1, 2023, administrators who meet one or both of the following criteria may be desysopped for inactivity if they have:

1. Made neither edits nor administrative actions for at least a 12-month period OR
2. Made fewer than 100 edits over a 60-month period

Administrators at risk for being desysopped under these criteria will continue to be notified ahead of time. Thank you for your continued work.

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"Mikhail Morozov" listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has identified a potential problem with the redirect Mikhail Morozov and has thus listed it for discussion. This discussion will occur at Misplaced Pages:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 May 7#Mikhail Morozov until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. -- Tamzin (she/they) 11:52, 7 May 2022 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – May 2022

News and updates for administrators from the past month (April 2022).

Administrator changes Colin M David.Monniaux • Fribbler • Grue • Kpjas • West.andrew.g

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Guideline and policy news

• Following an RfC, a change has been made to the administrators inactivity policy. Under the new policy, if an administrator has not made at least 100 edits over a period of 5 years they may be desysopped for inactivity.
• Following a discussion on the bureaucrat's noticeboard, a change has been made to the bureaucrats inactivity policy.

Technical news

• The ability to undelete the associated talk page when undeleting a page has been added. This was the 11th wish of the 2021 Community Wishlist Survey.
• A public status system for WMF wikis has been created. It is located at https://www.wikimediastatus.net/ and is hosted separately to WMF wikis so in the case of an outage it will remain viewable.

Arbitration

• Remedy 2 of the St Christopher case has been rescinded following a motion. The remedy previously authorised administrators to place a ban on single-purpose accounts who were disruptively editing on the article St Christopher Iba Mar Diop College of Medicine or related pages from those pages.

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Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 23:33, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of 1929 in American television

The article 1929 in American television has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

Only one thing happened, no chance of expansion

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Proposed deletion of 1926 in American television

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Only one thing happened, no changes since 2009

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Proposed deletion of 1927 in American television

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Proposed deletion of 1930 in American television

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Proposed deletion of 1928 in American television

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Nomination of 1928 in American television for deletion

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Administrators' newsletter – June 2022

News and updates for administrators from the past month (May 2022).

Administrator changes Tamzin Barek • Darkwind • Geometry guy • ProcseeBot • RoyBoy • Sean Whitton • Valereee • Visorstuff • WAvegetarian Sn0wflake → VersedFenrir

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Guideline and policy news

• Several areas of improvement collated from community member votes have been identified in the Universal Code of Conduct Enforcement guidelines. The areas of improvement have been sent back for review and you are invited to provide input on these areas.

Technical news

• Administrators using the mobile web interface can now access Special:Block directly from user pages. (T307341)
• The IP Info feature has been deployed to all wikis as a Beta Feature. Any autoconfirmed user may enable the feature using the "IP info" checkbox under Preferences → Beta features. Autoconfirmed users will be able to access basic information about an IP address that includes the country and connection method. Those with advanced privileges (admin, bureaucrat, checkuser) will have access to extra information that includes the Internet Service Provider and more specific location.

Arbitration

• Remedy 2 of the Rachel Marsden case has been rescinded following a motion. The remedy previously authorised administrators to delete or reduce to a stub, together with their talk pages, articles related to Rachel Marsden when they violate Misplaced Pages's biographies of living persons policy.
• An arbitration case regarding WikiProject Tropical Cyclones has been closed.

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Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 17:55, 2 June 2022 (UTC)

Proper Russian name for Kitoboinaya/Kitoboynyy Bay

Hi. I'm looking for the proper Russian name for the above bay. A 1918 work uses the name Kitoboinaya Bay, but more recent works (mapcarta) give Kitoboynyy Bay for a bay once called Kitoboinaya on the southwest coast of Simishir Island in the Kuril Islands. I'm assuming Kitoboinaya Bay, on the east coast of Gizhigin Bay, would have the same modern name? I can't even find a map of Gizhigin Bay that even labels Kitoboinaya/Kitoboynyy Bay. Any help would be much appreciated. ST1849 (talk) 20:46, 12 June 2022 (UTC)

(Without looking at the map) It must be Китобойная бухта, which is Kitoboynaya Bay. Бухта (Bay) is feminine and requires Kitoboynaya. Kitoboyny Bay does not make sense. Ymblanter (talk) 21:10, 12 June 2022 (UTC)

Thanks. I must've just seen the name for the settlement Kitoboynyy and assumed the bay in that area had the same name. Thanks for the help. ST1849 (talk) 21:24, 12 June 2022 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Andrey Antonov (disambiguation)

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Administrators' newsletter – July 2022

News and updates for administrators from the past month (June 2022).

Administrator changes AA • Gwalla • Ioeth • Laurascudder • Moriori (deceased) • Nat • Rfl Drilnoth → AFigureOfBlue Bureaucrat changes Lee Vilenski

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Technical news

• user_global_editcount is a new variable that can be used in abuse filters to avoid affecting globally active users. (T130439)

Arbitration

• An arbitration case regarding conduct in deletion-related editing has been opened.

Miscellaneous

• The New Pages Patrol queue has around 10,000 articles to be reviewed. As all administrators have the patrol right, please consider helping out. The queue is here. For further information on the state of the project, see the latest NPP newsletter.

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Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 13:28, 10 July 2022 (UTC)

Nomination of Ababkov for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Ababkov is suitable for inclusion in Misplaced Pages according to Misplaced Pages's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Ababkov until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

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Administrators' newsletter – August 2022

News and updates for administrators from the past month (July 2022).

Administrator changes

Valereee

Anthony Appleyard (deceased) • Capitalistroadster • Samsara

Guideline and policy news

• An RfC has been closed with consensus to add javascript that will show edit notices for editors editing via a mobile device. This only works for users using a mobile browser, so iOS app editors will still not be able to see edit notices.
• An RfC has been closed with the consensus that train stations are not inherently notable.

Technical news

• The Wikimania 2022 Hackathon will take place virtually from 11 August to 14 August.
• Administrators will now see links on user pages for "Change block" and "Unblock user" instead of just "Block user" if the user is already blocked. (T308570)

Arbitration

• The arbitration case request Geschichte has been automatically closed after a 3 month suspension of the case.

Miscellaneous

• You can vote for candidates in the 2022 Board of Trustees elections from 16 August to 30 August. Two community elected seats are up for election.
• Wikimania 2022 is taking place virtually from 11 August to 14 August. The schedule for wikimania is listed here. There are also a number of in-person events associated with Wikimania around the world.
• Tech tip: When revision-deleting on desktop, hold ⇧ Shift between clicking two checkboxes to select every box in that range.

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Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 08:44, 5 August 2022 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of 25 km

The article 25 km has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

25 km Zheleznoy Dorogi Monchegorsk–Olenya is the only item that is an existing article and belongs on a dab page.

While all constructive contributions to Misplaced Pages are appreciated, pages may be deleted for any of several reasons.

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Speedy deletion nomination of 27 km

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Administrators' newsletter – September 2022

News and updates for administrators from the past month (August 2022).

Administrator changes DanCherek • DatGuy • Femke • Z1720 Aldux • Graham Beards • Nyttend

Interface administrator changes Mr. Stradivarius

Guideline and policy news

• A discussion is open to define a process by which Vector 2022 can be made the default for all users.
• An RfC is open to gain consensus on whether Fox News is reliable for science and politics.

Technical news

• The impact report on the effects of disabling IP editing on the Persian (Farsi) Misplaced Pages has been released.
• The WMF is looking into making a Private Incident Reporting System (PIRS) system to improve the reporting of harmful incidents through easier and safer reporting. You can leave comments on the talk page by answering the questions provided. Users who have faced harmful situations are also invited to join a PIRS interview to share the experience. To sign up please email Madalina Ana.

Arbitration

• An arbitration case regarding Conduct in deletion-related editing has been closed. The Arbitration Committee passed a remedy as part of the final decision to create a request for comment (RfC) on how to handle mass nominations at Articles for Deletion (AfD).
• The arbitration case request Jonathunder has been automatically closed after a 6 month suspension of the case.

Miscellaneous

• The new pages patrol (NPP) team has prepared an appeal to the Wikimedia Foundation (WMF) for assistance with addressing Page Curation bugs and requested features. You are encouraged to read the open letter before it is sent, and if you support it, consider signing it. It is not a discussion, just a signature will suffice.
• Voting for candidates for the Wikimedia Board of Trustees is open until 6 September.

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Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 11:11, 1 September 2022 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Set indices on Russian districts

A tag has been placed on Category:Set indices on Russian districts indicating that it is currently empty, and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion. If it remains empty for seven days or more, it may be deleted under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself. Liz 01:43, 24 September 2022 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Set indices on urban okrugs in Russia

A tag has been placed on Category:Set indices on urban okrugs in Russia indicating that it is currently empty, and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion. If it remains empty for seven days or more, it may be deleted under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself. Liz 01:43, 24 September 2022 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Set indices on urban settlements in Russia

A tag has been placed on Category:Set indices on urban settlements in Russia indicating that it is currently empty, and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion. If it remains empty for seven days or more, it may be deleted under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself. Liz 01:44, 24 September 2022 (UTC)

I have taken care of these categories. Ymblanter (talk) 09:14, 24 September 2022 (UTC)

Thanks, Ymblanter. I deleted the redirects, as the categories are now established at "set index articles" instead of "set indices" following Misplaced Pages:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2022_September_14#Category:Set_indices, e.g. Category:Set index articles on urban settlements in Russia. – Fayenatic London 12:10, 24 September 2022 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – October 2022

News and updates for administrators from the past month (September 2022).

Administrator changes ScottishFinnishRadish Staxringold Ahoerstemeier (deceased) • Ched

Interface administrator changes Cyberpower678 CheckUser changes GorillaWarfare

Guideline and policy news

• Following an RfC, consensus was found that if the rationale for a block depends on information that is not available to all administrators, that information should be sent to the Arbitration Committee, a checkuser or an oversighter for action (as applicable, per ArbCom's recent updated guidance) instead of the administrator making the block.
• Following an RfC, consensus has been found that, in the context of politics and science, the reliability of FoxNews.com is unclear and that additional considerations apply to its use.
• Community comment on the revised Universal Code of Conduct enforcement guidelines is requested until 8 October.

Technical news

• The Articles for creation helper script now automatically recognises administrator accounts which means your name does not need to be listed at WP:AFCP to help out. If you wish to help out at AFC, enable AFCH by navigating to Preferences → Gadgets and checking the "Yet Another AfC Helper Script" box.

Arbitration

• Remedy 8.1 of the Muhammad images case will be rescinded 1 November following a motion.
• A modification to the deletion RfC remedy in the Conduct in deletion-related editing case has been made to reaffirm the independence of the RfC and allow the moderators to split the RfC in two.
• The second phase of the 2021-22 Discretionary Sanctions Review closes 3 October.

Miscellaneous

• An administrator's account was recently compromised. Administrators are encouraged to check that their passwords are secure, and reminded that ArbCom reserves the right to not restore adminship in cases of poor account security. You can also use two-factor authentication (2FA) to provide an extra level of security.
• Self-nominations for the electoral commission for the 2022 Arbitration Committee elections open 2 October and close 8 October.
• You are invited to comment on candidates in the 2022 CUOS appointments process.
• An RfC is open to discuss whether to make Vector 2022 the default skin on desktop.
• Tech tip: You can do a fuzzy search of all deleted page titles at Special:Undelete.

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Administrators' newsletter – November 2022

News and updates for administrators from the past month (October 2022).

Administrator changes

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  • Astronautics~enwiki
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  • Eddie891
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Interface administrator changes

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CheckUser changes

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[REDACTED] Oversight changes

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Guideline and policy news

• The article creation at scale RfC opened on 3 October and will be open until at least 2 November.
• An RfC is open to discuss having open requests for adminship automatically placed on hold after the seven-day period has elapsed, pending closure or other action by a bureaucrat.

Arbitration

• Eligible editors are invited to self-nominate themselves from 13 November 2022 until 22 November 2022 to stand in the 2022 Arbitration Committee elections.
• The arbitration case request titled Athaenara has been resolved by motion.
• The arbitration case Reversal and reinstatement of Athaenara's block has entered the proposed decision stage.
• AmandaNP, Mz7 and Cyberpower678 have been appointed to the Electoral Commission for the 2022 Arbitration Committee Elections. Xaosflux and Dr vulpes are reserve commissioners.

Miscellaneous

• The 2022 CheckUser and Oversight appointments process has concluded with the appointment of two new CheckUsers.
• You can add yourself to the centralised page listing time zones of administrators.
• Tech tip: Wikimarkup in a block summary is parsed in the notice that the blockee sees. You can use templates with custom options to specify situations like {{rangeblock|create=yes}} or {{uw-ublock|contains profanity}}.

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Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 00:22, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of North Caucasus economic region

The article North Caucasus economic region has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

Based on pre-2014 sources describes Russian imperialistic opinion as a fact

While all constructive contributions to Misplaced Pages are appreciated, pages may be deleted for any of several reasons.

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Administrators' newsletter – December 2022

News and updates for administrators from the past month (November 2022).

Administrator changes

• Eddie891
• Euryalus
• TheresNoTime

• Alex.muller
• Excirial
• RedWordSmith
• Ron Ritzman
• TheresNoTime
• Stephen

Interface administrator changes

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CheckUser changes

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[REDACTED] Oversight changes

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Guideline and policy news

• Consensus has been found in an RfC to automatically place RfAs on hold after one week.
• The article creation at scale RfC has been closed.
• An RfC on the banners for the December 2022 fundraising campaign has been closed.

Technical news

• A new preference named "Enable limited width mode" has been added to the Vector 2022 skin. The preference is also shown as a toggle on every page if your monitor is 1600 pixels or wider. When disabled it removes the whitespace added by Vector 2022 on the left and right of the page content. Disabling this preference has the same effect as enabling the wide-vector-2022 gadget. (T319449)

Arbitration

• Eligible users are invited to vote on candidates for the Arbitration Committee until 23:59 December 12, 2022 (UTC). Candidate statements can be seen here.
• The proposed decision for the 2021-22 review of the discretionary sanctions system is open.
• The arbitration case Reversal and reinstatement of Athaenara's block has been closed.
• The arbitration case Stephen has been opened and the proposed decision is expected 1 December 2022.
• A motion has modified the procedures for contacting an admin facing Level 2 desysop.

Miscellaneous

• Tech tip: A single IPv6 connection usually has access to a "subnet" of 18 quintillion IPs. Add /64 to the end of an IP in Special:Contributions to see all of a subnet's edits, and consider blocking the whole subnet rather than an IP that may change within a minute.

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Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 12:44, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

Arkhangelsk Oblast, Russian Empire moved to draftspace

An article you recently created, Arkhangelsk Oblast, Russian Empire, is not suitable as written to remain published. It needs more in-depth coverage about the subject itself, with citations from reliable, independent sources in order to show it meets WP:GNG. It should have at least three. And please remember that interviews, as primary sources, do not count towards GNG.(?) Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Misplaced Pages). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of "Draft:" before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Misplaced Pages's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page.Onel5969 15:09, 20 December 2022 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Arkhangelsk Oblast, Russian Empire has been accepted

Arkhangelsk Oblast, Russian Empire, which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created.

Congratulations, and thank you for helping expand the scope of Misplaced Pages! We hope you will continue making quality contributions.

Since you have made at least 10 edits over more than four days, you can now create articles yourself without posting a request. However, you may continue submitting work to Articles for creation if you prefer.

If you have any questions, you are welcome to ask at the help desk. Once you have made at least 10 edits and had an account for at least four days, you will have the option to create articles yourself without posting a request to Articles for creation.

If you would like to help us improve this process, please consider leaving us some feedback.

Thanks again, and happy editing!

Ymblanter (talk) 16:42, 20 December 2022 (UTC)

I was going to work on it later today, but you beat me to it; thanks!

Also, happy to see you're still around and active! Happy holidays.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); December 20, 2022; 16:50 (UTC)

I only made some minimum necessary changes, there is still room for improvement. Thanks, also happy holidays to you.--Ymblanter (talk) 16:54, 20 December 2022 (UTC)

ru:Дядьково_(аэродром)

Dear Ezhiki, Gavbadger is busily filling in a number of gaps in our coverage of former and active Soviet/Russian airfields. He's just created Vypolzovo (air base), which is great!! Would you be able to confirm that it is the same airfield as ru:Дядьково_(аэродром)? Gavbadger, Ezhiki is our ace for Russian geography and organisation and changes in Russian territorial units. Any time you need any clarification in these matters, which oblast an airbase is in, do talk to him!! Happy New Year!! Buckshot06 (talk) 18:43, 29 December 2022 (UTC)

@Buckshot06: sorry, I totally missed this request. Now, I haven't looked deep, but even at the first glance, Dyadkovo is located near Yaroslavl, which is nowhere near Vypolzovo, so no, not the same. Cheers,—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); March 9, 2023; 19:25 (UTC)

Happy New Year, Ezhiki!

Happy New Year!

Ezhiki,
Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Misplaced Pages.
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Administrators' newsletter – January 2023

News and updates for administrators from the past month (December 2022).

Administrator changes

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Guideline and policy news

• Speedy deletion criterion A5 (transwikied articles) has been repealed following an unopposed proposal.

Arbitration

• Following the 2022 Arbitration Committee elections, the following editors have been appointed to the Arbitration Committee: Barkeep49, CaptainEek, GeneralNotability, Guerillero, L235, Moneytrees, Primefac, SilkTork.
• The 2021-22 Discretionary Sanctions Review has concluded with many changes to the discretionary sanctions procedure including a change of the name to "contentious topics". The changes are being implemented over the coming month.
• The arbitration case Stephen has been closed.

Miscellaneous

• Voting for the Sound Logo has closed and the winner is expected to be announced February to April 2023.
• Tech tip: You can view information about IP addresses in a centralised location using bullseye which won the Newcomer award in the recent Coolest Tool Awards.

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Administrators' newsletter – February 2023

News and updates for administrators from the past month (January 2023).

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• Following an RfC, the administrator policy now requires that prior written consent be gained from the Arbitration Committee to mark a block as only appealable to the committee.
• Following a community discussion, consensus has been found to impose the extended-confirmed restriction over the topic areas of Armenia and Azerbaijan and Kurds and Kurdistan.

Technical news

• The Vector 2022 skin has become the default for desktop users of the English Misplaced Pages.

Arbitration

• The arbitration case Armenia-Azerbaijan 3 has been opened and the proposed decision is expected 24 February 2023.
• In December, the contentious topics procedure was adopted which replaces the former discretionary sanctions system. The contentious topics procedure is now in effect following an initial implementation period. There is a detailed summary of the changes and administrator instructions for the new procedure. The arbitration clerk team are taking suggestions, concerns, and unresolved questions about this new system at their noticeboard.

Miscellaneous

• Voting in the 2023 Steward elections will begin on 05 February 2023, 21:00 (UTC) and end on 26 February 2023, 21:00 (UTC). The confirmation process of current stewards is being held in parallel. You can automatically check your eligibility to vote.
• Voting in the 2023 Community Wishlist Survey will begin on 10 February 2023 and end on 24 February 2023. You can submit, discuss and revise proposals until 6 February 2023.
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Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 01:37, 2 February 2023 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Timashyovsky

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We don't normally disambiguate "Foo" town and "Foo District" under adjective "Fooian". Pointless dab.

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Speedy deletion nomination of Timashevsky (disambiguation)

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Speedy deletion nomination of Timashyovsky (disambiguation)

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Pending suspension of administrative permissions due to inactivity

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Administrators' newsletter – March 2023

News and updates for administrators from the past month (February 2023).

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Guideline and policy news

• Following a request for comment, F10 (useless non-media files) has been deprecated.
• Following a request for comment, the Portal CSD criteria (P1 (portal subject to CSD as an article) and P2 (underpopulated portal)) have been deprecated.
• A request for comment is open to discuss making the closing instructions for the requested moves process a guideline.

Technical news

• The results of the 2023 Community Wishlist Survey have been posted.

Arbitration

• Remedy 11 ("Request for Comment") of the Conduct in deletion-related editing case has been rescinded.
• The proposed decision for the Armenia-Azerbaijan 3 case is expected 7 March 2023.
• A case related to the Holocaust in Poland is expected to be opened soon.

Miscellaneous

• The 2023 appointees for the Ombuds commission are AGK, Ameisenigel, Bennylin, Daniuu, Emufarmers, Faendalimas, JJMC89, MdsShakil, Minorax and Renvoy as regular members and Zabe as advisory members.
• Following the 2023 Steward Elections, the following editors have been appointed as stewards: Mykola7, Superpes15, and Xaosflux.
• The Terms of Use update cycle has started, which includes a roposal for better addressing undisclosed paid editing. Feedback is being accepted until 24 April 2023.

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Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 13:19, 1 March 2023 (UTC)

Stop using custom timestamps

As WP:SIGPROB says, The timestamp must adhere to the system-generated format (HH:MM, D MM YYYY (UTC)) and must not be customized. This is necessary for clear communications and for archiving bots to function correctly. Timestamps that are customized may be considered disruptive and editors using them may be blocked accordingly. Nardog (talk) 13:29, 1 April 2023 (UTC)

You know, one would think that our bots would not be so poorly programmed as to not be able to handle one of the most common date formats out there, but I see lazy slackers already enshrined this into a guideline. Fine. One word if advice though: in the future you might discover that asking politely is usually going to yield you better results than being a rude ass spewing threats. Now go stand in the corner and think if yours really is the best way to treat people. Maybe even in life in general, not just on Misplaced Pages. Good day.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); April 1, 2023; 15:20 (UTC) 15:20, 1 April 2023 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – April 2023

News and updates for administrators from the past month (March 2023).

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Guideline and policy news

• A community RfC is open to discuss whether reports primarily involving gender-related disputes or controversies should be referred to the Arbitration enforcement noticeboard.

Technical news

• Some older web browsers will not be able to use JavaScript on Wikimedia wikis starting this week. This mainly affects users of Internet Explorer 11. (T178356)
• The rollback of Vector 2022 RfC has found no consensus to rollback to Vector legacy, but has found rough consensus to disable "limited width" mode by default.
• A link to the user's Special:CentralAuth page will now appear in the subtitle links shown on Special:Contributions. This was voted #17 in the Community Wishlist Survey 2023.

Arbitration

• The Armenia-Azerbaijan 3 case has been closed.
• A case about World War II and the history of Jews in Poland has been opened, with the first evidence phase closing 6 April 2023.

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Administrators' newsletter – May 2023

News and updates for administrators from the past month (April 2023).

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Guideline and policy news

• A request for comment about removing administrative privileges in specified situations is open for feedback.

Technical news

• Progress has started on the Page Triage improvement project. This is to address the concerns raised by the community in their 2022 WMF letter that requested improvements be made to the tool.

Arbitration

• The proposed decision in the World War II and the history of Jews in Poland case is expected 11 May 2023.

Miscellaneous

• The Wikimedia Foundation annual plan 2023-2024 draft is open for comment and input through May 19. The final plan will be published in July 2023.

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Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 09:22, 3 May 2023 (UTC)

Surname indices

Please use "surname" instead of "last name" in the lead of every surname index you create, as per requirements of WP:APO. "Last name" is too simplistic for this Misplaced Pages, and such usage might belong on Simple English Misplaced Pages instead. Jalen Folf (talk) 01:06, 10 May 2023 (UTC)

WP:APO does not override WP:ENGVAR. Cheers,—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); May 10, 2023; 01:29 (UTC)

ru:Список арсеналов России

I am working on expanding GRAU, and creating a list of arsenals. There was a page on Ruwiki, and they deleted it!! See ru:Википедия:К удалению/18 ноября 2013. Can you get onto an administrator there to dump the last copy in my sandbox? I would of course comply with WP:V for all entries. Buckshot06 (talk) 01:06, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

Sorry, I don't know any ru-wiki admins that well; been a while since I did much of anything there (or here for that matter).—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); May 24, 2023; 22:34 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Administrative divisions of Russia in 1713–1714

The article Administrative divisions of Russia in 1713–1714 has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

unsourced since 2009

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Administrators' newsletter – June 2023

News and updates for administrators from the past month (May 2023).

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Guideline and policy news

• Following an RfC, editors indefinitely site-banned by community consensus will now have all rights, including sysop, removed.
• As a part of the Wikimedia Foundation's IP Masking project, a new policy has been created that governs the access to temporary account IP addresses. An associated FAQ has been created and individual communities can increase the requirements to view temporary account IP addresses.

Technical news

• Bot operators and tool maintainers should schedule time in the coming months to test and update their tools for the effects of IP masking. IP masking will not be deployed to any content wiki until at least October 2023 and is unlikely to be deployed to the English Misplaced Pages until some time in 2024.

Arbitration

• The arbitration case World War II and the history of Jews in Poland has been closed. The topic area of Polish history during World War II (1933-1945) and the history of Jews in Poland is subject to a "reliable source consensus-required" contentious topic restriction.

Miscellaneous

• Following a community referendum, the arbitration policy has been modified to remove the ability for users to appeal remedies to Jimbo Wales.

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Administrators' newsletter – July 2023

News and updates for administrators from the past month (June 2023).

Administrator changes

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Bureaucrat changes

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Guideline and policy news

• Contributions to the English Misplaced Pages are now released under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 International License (CC BY-SA 4.0) license instead of CC BY-SA 3.0. Contributions are still also released under the GFDL license.

Technical news

• Discussion is open regarding a proposed global policy regarding third-party resources. Third-party resources are computer resources that reside outside of Wikimedia production websites.

Arbitration

• Two arbitration cases are currently open. Proposed decisions are expected 5 July 2023 for the Scottywong case and 9 July 2023 for the AlisonW case.

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Administrators' newsletter – August 2023

News and updates for administrators from the past month (July 2023).

Administrator changes

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Interface administrator changes

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Technical news

• The tag filter on Special:NewPages and revision history pages can now be inverted. This allows hiding edits made by automated tools. (T334338)
• Special:BlockedExternalDomains is a new tool that allows easier blocking of plain domains (and their subdomains). This is more easily searchable and is faster for the software to use than the existing MediaWiki:Spam-blacklist. It does not support regex (for complex cases), URL path-matching, or the MediaWiki:Spam-whitelist. (T337431)

Arbitration

• The arbitration cases named Scottywong and AlisonW closed 10 July and 16 July respectively.
• The SmallCat dispute arbitration case is in the workshop phase.

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Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 08:54, 8 August 2023 (UTC)

Leipäsuo etc.

Лейпясуо should not be romanized "Leypyasuo", but Leipäsuo, look at Лейпясуо.jpg. Same with Хелюля, Helylä; Янисъярви, Jänisjärvi; Вяртсиля, Värtsilä etc. etc. etc.
2001:999:408:7145:C4A7:229F:DE7D:4610 (talk) 20:22, 30 August 2023 (UTC)

Are you the same person who's been leaving me this message for the past ten years? :)

Here's a refresher if you are (or a response if you're someone else):

"Leipäsuo" and such is not a "romanization". It's the original Karelian/Finnish spelling. But titles of articles about places in Russia, per guidelines, either use conventional English names (for major places like Moscow that actually have one), or are romanized from the Russian spelling. Hence "Leypyasuo". Same with Khelyulya, Yanisyarvi, Vyartsilya, etc. etc. etc. Cheers,—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); August 31, 2023; 01:36 (UTC) 01:36, 31 August 2023 (UTC)

Why then does the October Railway use the name form Leipäsuo: Лейпясуо.jpg, but not (stupid) "Leypyasuo"? --2001:999:68D:2ABB:C89D:DEA4:7AB7:CC71 (talk) 15:33, 11 September 2023 (UTC)

Because that sign is in Russian and Finnish, targeting the local population and not the Anglophones this (English) Misplaced Pages does?—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); September 11, 2023; 15:40 (UTC) 15:40, 11 September 2023 (UTC)

What do you mean? The sign is in Russian and English, because there is an arrow to the left Vyborg, Buslovskaya (with the correct romanization, because Бусловская is a Russian name, not Finnish, which would be Viipuri, Buslovskaja), so look at the picture carefully, please: Лейпясуо.jpg. To the right is an arrow to Saint Petersburg, which Finnish name is Pietari.

You cannot be ignorant of the fact that after the Winter War (1939-1940) and finally the Continuation War (1941-1944), the local population of Leipäsuo in the Leningrad region has been Russian, when the Finnish population had to move behind Finland's new eastern border: en: Evacuation of Finnish Karelia / ru: Эвакуация населения Финской Карелии.

--2001:999:68D:2ABB:C89D:DEA4:7AB7:CC71 (talk) 11:14, 12 September 2023 (UTC)

The sign is not in English for the simple reason that the spelling does not match any romanization/transliteration systems of Russian used in English. If other signs in the area are "in English", it simply shows that whoever made the signs was inconsistent. Note I'm saying "inconsistent" and not "wrong", because what they are doing may very well make perfect sense in the context the signs are used. English Misplaced Pages, however, operates in a completely different context, and whether you agree or disagree with the exact structure of WP:RUS, there is a strong consensus that at least some of the many existing romanization systems should be used for Russian names of places which do not have a WP:COMMONNAME. None of those systems will give you "Leipäsuo" you want.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); October 4, 2023; 22:41 (UTC) 22:41, 4 October 2023 (UTC)

Ping

Please let me know if the 'ping' I sent you worked. It's on Estland/Livland, from over a decade ago. 2001:1C02:1990:A900:FCB5:49EC:22CF:E773 (talk) 17:41, 31 August 2023 (UTC)

In worked, yes. I'm not sure what you expect me to say though. Livland/Livonia variants are both used in English; I myself don't really have a preference and am happy to abide by whatever consensus if/when one arises. "Governorate", on the other hand, is used because we, as an encyclopedia, cover all sorts of Russian Empire's administrative divisions, and it helps to have structure, even if sometimes that leads to a less common variant being used (but let's be honest—"less common" in this case means a usage difference between two already obscure variants anyway!). The Empire had "governorates" (губернии) and "provinces" (провинции) and "oblasts" (области; often translated as "provinces"), and it can all be very confusing to an uninitiated reader as it is. Just try writing an overview article about the divisions of the Empire across its long history without standardizing the terminology and see how that goes! Starting to cherrypick governorates which happen to be better known as "provinces" and moving the articles around is just going to create more havoc for only a marginal benefit. Furthermore, there is nothing, and I mean nothing preventing us from mentioning in the article's lede and/or body that a particular "governorate" is also being referred to as "province" in literature; in fact, that's encouraged.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); August 31, 2023; 18:14 (UTC) 18:14, 31 August 2023 (UTC)

Totally agree! I think since 15 years or so (maybe a bit more even), historians of the Russian empire have started to appreciate the very specific historical realities that certain administrative units brought with them. Alongside the many differences created by various types of social and legal statuses of subjects of course. So whenever someone uses 'province' because it's easy, it doesn't mean they don't understand the importance of the different terms. Depending on the centrality of the terms to their argument, they might just dedicate a kind of 'disclaimer' in the introduction. Anyway, carry on then. I simply thought you might like to hear that at least I think you were very right to call people on their naive use of google. Keep it up! 2001:1C02:1990:A900:FCB5:49EC:22CF:E773 (talk) 18:40, 31 August 2023 (UTC)

Thank you for stopping by; appreciated :)—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); September 1, 2023; 01:01 (UTC) 01:01, 1 September 2023 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – September 2023

News and updates for administrators from the past month (August 2023).

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Guideline and policy news

• Following an RfC, TFAs will be automatically semi-protected the day before it is on the main page and through the day after.
• A discussion at WP:VPP about revision deletion and oversight for dead names found that ysops can choose to use revdel if, in their view, it's the right tool for this situation, and they need not default to oversight. But oversight could well be right where there's a particularly high risk to the person. Use your judgment.

Technical news

• Special:Contributions now shows the user's local edit count and the account's creation date. (T324166)

Arbitration

• The SmallCat dispute case has closed. As part of the final decision, editors participating in XfD have been reminded to be careful about forming local consensus which may or may not reflect the broader community consensus. Regular closers of XfD forums were also encouraged to note when broader community discussion, or changes to policies and guidelines, would be helpful.

Miscellaneous

• Tech tip: The "Browse history interactively" banner shown at the top of Special:Diff can be used to easily look through a history, assemble composite diffs, or find out what archive something wound up in.

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Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 09:21, 1 September 2023 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Administrative divisions of Russia

A tag has been placed on Category:Administrative divisions of Russia indicating that it is currently empty, and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion. If it remains empty for seven days or more, it may be deleted under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and removing the speedy deletion tag. Liz 18:24, 2 October 2023 (UTC)

ru:Новороссия (Приморский край)

Dear Ezhiki, this place is a selo in Primorie, with a stub airfield article on En-wiki. Might I kindly request you consider adding a short translation of the selo article to your En-wiki task list? Kind regards, Buckshot06 (talk) 22:11, 3 October 2023 (UTC)

There you go. Nothing fancy; just a quick stub, but hopefully helps. Cheers,—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); October 4, 2023; 22:10 (UTC) 22:10, 4 October 2023 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – September 2023

News and updates for administrators from the past month (September 2023).

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Guideline and policy news

• An RfC is open regarding amending the paid-contribution disclosure policy to add the following text: Any administrator soliciting clients for paid Misplaced Pages-related consulting or advising services not covered by other paid-contribution rules must disclose all clients on their userpage.

Technical news

• Administrators can now choose to add the user's user page to their watchlist when changing the usergroups for a user. This works both via Special:UserRights and via the API. (T272294)

Arbitration

• Remedy 9 ("MarioProtIV topic ban") of the WikiProject Tropical Cyclones case has been rescinded.

Miscellaneous

• The 2023 CheckUser and Oversight appointments process has concluded with the appointment of one new CheckUser.
• Self-nominations for the electoral commission for the 2023 Arbitration Committee elections opens on 2 October and closes on 8 October.

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Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 14:41, 4 October 2023 (UTC)

Kurkijoki, Sortavala etc.

Kurkijoki: not "Kurkiyoki", Sortavala etc. - are place names in Finnish. If you don't believe, then please read:

• Губернатор Карелии предложил переименовать Сортавалу в Сердоболь
  
• Была Сортавала, стал Сердоболь: что думают эксперты и местные жители по поводу идеи карельского губернатора
  
• Сортавалу не будут переименовывать в Сердоболь
  
• «Это будет дорого стоить»: жители Карелии в шоке от «нового» названия тургорода

Likewise, Leipäsuo - not "Leypyasuo": look at Лейпясуо.jpg. Same with Helylä: not "Khelyulya", Hiitola: not "Khiytola", Jänisjärvi: not "Yanisyarvi", Värtsilä: not "Vyartsilya" - etc. etc. etc. 2001:999:484:3DBE:60B3:7B7C:AB66:4AC8 (talk) 16:18, 5 November 2023 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – November 2023

News and updates for administrators from the past month (October 2023).

Administrator changes

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Interface administrator changes

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Guideline and policy news

Technical news

• The WMF is working on making it possible for administrators to edit MediaWiki configuration directly. This is similar to previous work on Special:EditGrowthConfig. A technical RfC is running until November 08, where you can provide feedback.
• There is a proposed plan for re-enabling the Graph Extension. Feedback on this proposal is requested.

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• Eligible editors are invited to self-nominate themselves from 12 November 2023 until 21 November 2023 to stand in the 2023 Arbitration Committee elections.
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"List of Russian administrative centers(*) and cities over 50,000 population at 2002 census" listed at Redirects for discussion

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Administrators' newsletter – December 2023

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Arbitration

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Speedy deletion nomination of Belokamenny

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Administrators' newsletter – January 2024

News and updates for administrators from the past month (December 2023).

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CheckUser changes

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Maxim

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Arbitration

• Following the 2023 Arbitration Committee elections, the following editors have been appointed to the Arbitration Committee: Aoidh, Cabayi, Firefly, HJ Mitchell, Maxim, Sdrqaz, ToBeFree, Z1720.
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• The arbitration case Industrial agriculture has been closed.

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Infobox Russian federal subject

Hello can you make that Russian federal subject Infobox I could put GDP data. Many regions in other countries have GDP numbers in table. For example I would like to put Gross Domestic Product (GDP) data into Moscow Oblast main table but I can’t Radom1967 (talk) 10:45, 5 January 2024 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – February 2024

News and updates for administrators from the past month (January 2024).

Administrator changes

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Bureaucrat changes

Worm That Turned

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Wugapodes

Interface administrator changes

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Guideline and policy news

• An RfC about increasing the inactivity requirement for Interface administrators is open for feedback.

Technical news

• Pages that use the JSON contentmodel will now use tabs instead of spaces for auto-indentation. This will significantly reduce the page size. (T326065)

Arbitration

• Following a motion, the Arbitration Committee adopted a new enforcement restriction on January 4, 2024, wherein the Committee may apply the 'Reliable source consensus-required restriction' to specified topic areas.
• Community feedback is requested for a draft to replace the "Information for administrators processing requests" section at WP:AE.

Miscellaneous

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Proposed deletion of Sudzha (disambiguation)

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Proposed deletion of Agafodor

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Proposed deletion of Agafonika

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Administrators' newsletter – March 2024

News and updates for administrators from the past month (February 2024).

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Guideline and policy news

• Phase I of the 2024 RfA review is now open for participation. Editors are invited to review, comment on, and propose improvements to the requests for adminship process.
• Following an RfC, the inactivity requirement for the removal of the interface administrator right increased from 6 months to 12 months.

Technical news

• The mobile site history pages now use the same HTML as the desktop history pages. (T353388)

Miscellaneous

• The 2024 appointees for the Ombuds commission are だ＊ぜ, AGK, Ameisenigel, Bennylin, Daniuu, Doǵu, Emufarmers, Faendalimas, MdsShakil, Minorax, Nehaoua, Renvoy and RoySmith as members, with Vermont serving as steward-observer.
• Following the 2024 Steward Elections, the following editors have been appointed as stewards: Ajraddatz, Albertoleoncio, EPIC, JJMC89, Johannnes89, Melos and Yahya.

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Nomination of Agafodor for deletion

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Nomination of Agafonika for deletion

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Administrators' newsletter – April 2024

News and updates for administrators from the past month (March 2024).

Administrator changes

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Guideline and policy news

• An RfC is open to convert all current and future community discretionary sanctions to (community designated) contentious topics procedure.

Technical news

• The Toolforge Grid Engine services have been shut down after the final migration process from Grid Engine to Kubernetes. (T313405)

Arbitration

• An arbitration case has been opened to look into "the intersection of managing conflict of interest editing with the harassment (outing) policy".

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• Editors are invited to sign up for The Core Contest, an initiative running from April 15 to May 31, which aims to improve vital and other core articles on Misplaced Pages.

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Precious anniversary

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Seven years!

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Administrators' newsletter – May 2024

News and updates for administrators from the past month (April 2024).

Administrator changes

Nyttend

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• MelanieN
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Bureaucrat changes

Nihonjoe

CheckUser changes

Joe Roe

[REDACTED] Oversight changes

GeneralNotability

Guideline and policy news

• Phase I of the 2024 requests for adminship review has concluded. Several proposals have passed outright and will proceed to implementation, including creating a discussion-only period (3b) and administrator elections (13) on a trial basis. Other successful proposals, such as creating a reminder of civility norms (2), will undergo further refinement in Phase II. Proposals passed on a trial basis will be discussed in Phase II, after their trials conclude. Further details on specific proposals can be found in the full report.

Technical news

• Partial action blocks are now in effect on the English Misplaced Pages. This means that administrators have the ability to restrict users from certain actions, including uploading files, moving pages and files, creating new pages, and sending thanks. T280531

Arbitration

• The arbitration case Conflict of interest management has been closed.

Miscellaneous

• This may be a good time to reach out to potential nominees to ask if they would consider an RfA.
• A New Pages Patrol backlog drive is happening in May 2024 to reduce the number of unreviewed articles in the new pages feed. Currently, there is a backlog of over 15,000 articles awaiting review. Sign up here to participate!
• Voting for the Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee (U4C) election is open until 9 May 2024. Read the voting page on Meta-Wiki and cast your vote here!

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Administrators' newsletter – June 2024

News and updates for administrators from the past month (May 2024).

Administrator changes

Graham Beards

• Deskana
• Mets501
• Staxringold

Bureaucrat changes

• Deskana
• Warofdreams

[REDACTED] Oversight changes

Dreamy Jazz

Guideline and policy news

• Phase II of the 2024 RfA review has commenced to improve and refine the proposals passed in Phase I.

Technical news

• The Nuke feature, which enables administrators to mass delete pages, will now correctly delete pages which were moved to another title. T43351

Arbitration

• The arbitration case Venezuelan politics has been closed.
• The Committee is seeking volunteers for various roles, including access to the conflict of interest VRT queue.

Miscellaneous

• WikiProject Reliability's unsourced statements drive is happening in June 2024 to replace {{citation needed}} tags with references! Sign up here to participate!

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Administrators' newsletter – July 2024

News and updates for administrators from the past month (June 2024).

Administrator changes

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• Pickersgill-Cunliffe

• Brianga
• De728631
• Georgewilliamherbert
• Hyacinth (deceased)
• ProveIt
• The Night Watch

Technical news

• Local administrators can now add new links to the bottom of the site Tools menu without using JavaScript. Documentation is available on MediaWiki. (T6086)

Miscellaneous

• The Community Wishlist is re-opening on 15 July 2024. Read more

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Administrators' newsletter – August 2024

News and updates for administrators from the past month (July 2024).

Administrator changes

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• Ian.thomson
• Modussiccandi

Interface administrator changes

Izno

CheckUser changes

Barkeep49

Technical news

• Global blocks may now target accounts as well as IP's. Administrators may locally unblock when appropriate.
• Users wishing to permanently leave may now request "vanishing" via Special:GlobalVanishRequest. Processed requests will result in the user being renamed, their recovery email being removed, and their account being globally locked.

Arbitration

• The Arbitration Committee appointed the following administrators to the conflict of interest volunteer response team: Bilby, Extraordinary Writ

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Nomination for deletion of Template:RussiaBasicLawRef/ba/mezhgorye

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Nomination for deletion of Template:RussiaBasicLawRef/che/lokomotivny

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Nomination for deletion of Template:RussiaBasicLawRef/che/snezhinsky

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Nomination for deletion of Template:RussiaBasicLawRef/irk/cheremkhovo

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Nomination for deletion of Template:RussiaBasicLawRef/irk/ziminskoye

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Nomination for deletion of Template:RussiaBasicLawRef/orl/oryol

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Nomination for deletion of Template:RussiaBasicLawRef/pri/bolshoy kamen

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Administrators' newsletter – September 2024

News and updates for administrators from the past month (August 2024).

Administrator changes

Pppery

Interface administrator changes

Pppery

[REDACTED] Oversighter changes

Wugapodes

CheckUser changes

• Courcelles
• GeneralNotability

Guideline and policy news

• Following an RfC, there is a new criterion for speedy deletion: C4, which applies to unused maintenance categories, such as empty dated maintenance categories for dates in the past.
• A request for comment is open to discuss whether Notability (species) should be adopted as a subject-specific notability guideline.

Arbitration

• Following a motion, remedies 5.1 and 5.2 of World War II and the history of Jews in Poland (the topic and interaction bans on My very best wishes, respectively) were repealed.
• Remedy 3C of the German war effort case ("Cinderella157 German history topic ban") was suspended for a period of six months.
• The arbitration case Historical Elections is currently open. Proposed decision is expected by 3 September 2024 for this case.

Miscellaneous

• Editors can now enter into good article review circles, an alternative for informal quid pro quo arrangements, to have a GAN reviewed in return for reviewing a different editor's nomination.
• A New Pages Patrol backlog drive is happening in September 2024 to reduce the number of unreviewed articles and redirects in the new pages feed. Currently, there is a backlog of over 13,900 articles and 26,200 redirects awaiting review. Sign up here to participate!

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Nomination for deletion of Template:RussiaBasicLawRef/ros/rostov-on-don

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Nomination for deletion of Template:RussiaBasicLawRef/yan/nadymsky

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Administrators' newsletter – October 2024

News and updates for administrators from the past month (September 2024).

Administrator changes

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• Significa liberdade

• Good Olfactory
• Hesperian
• I JethroBT
• TommyBoy
• Woody

CheckUser changes

• Barkeep49
• Izno

• Doug Weller
• Spicy

Guideline and policy news

• Administrator elections are a proposed new process for selecting administrators, offering an alternative to requests for adminship (RfA). The first trial election will take place in October 2024, with candidate sign-up from October 8 to 14, a discussion phase from October 22 to 24, and SecurePoll voting from October 25 to 31. For questions or to help out, please visit the talk page at Misplaced Pages talk:Administrator elections.
• Following a discussion, the speedy deletion reason "File pages without a corresponding file" has been moved from criterion G8 to F2. This does not change what can be speedily deleted.
• A request for comment is open to discuss whether there is a consensus to have an administrator recall process.

Arbitration

• The arbitration case Historical elections has been closed.
• An arbitration case regarding Backlash to diversity and inclusion has been opened.
• Editors are invited to nominate themselves to serve on the 2024 Arbitration Committee Electoral Commission until 23:59 October 8, 2024 (UTC).

Miscellaneous

• If you are interested in stopping spammers, please put MediaWiki talk:Spam-whitelist and MediaWiki talk:Spam-blacklist on your watchlist, and help out when you can.

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Administrators' newsletter – November 2024

News and updates for administrators from the past month (October 2024).

Administrator changes

• Crisco 1492

• Babajobu
• Daniel
• Elf
• Jayron32
• Thue
• Wugapodes

CheckUser changes

Maxim

[REDACTED] Oversighter changes

Maxim

Guideline and policy news

• Following a discussion, the discussion-only period proposal that went for a trial to refine the requests for adminship (RfA) process has been discontinued.
• Following a request for comment, Administrator recall is adopted as a policy.

Technical news

• Mass deletions done with the Nuke tool now have the 'Nuke' tag. This change will make reviewing and analyzing deletions performed with the tool easier. T366068

Arbitration

• RoySmith, Barkeep49 and Cyberpower678 have been appointed to the Electoral Commission for the 2024 Arbitration Committee Elections. ThadeusOfNazereth and Dr vulpes are reserve commissioners.
• Eligible editors are invited to self-nominate from 3 November 2024 until 12 November 2024 to stand in the 2024 Arbitration Committee elections.
• The Arbitration Committee is seeking volunteers for roles such as clerks, access to the COI queue, checkuser, and oversight.

Miscellaneous

• An unreferenced articles backlog drive is happening in November 2024 to reduce the backlog of articles tagged with {{Unreferenced}}. You can help reduce the backlog by adding citations to these articles. Sign up to participate!

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Administrators' newsletter – December 2024

News and updates for administrators from the past month (November 2024).

Administrator changes

• Ahecht
• DoubleGrazing
• Dr vulpes
• FOARP
• Peaceray
• Queen of Hearts
• Rsjaffe
• SD0001
• SilverLocust
• Sohom Datta
• ThadeusOfNazereth
• Voorts

• Ajpolino
• Fathoms Below
• Pppery
• Tamzin
• Worm That Turned

• Aervanath
• Christopher Sundita
• Dank
• Dennis Brown
• Dragons flight
• Fastily
• Graham87
• JaGa
• Kbh3rd
• Marine 69-71
• Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington
• Yamamoto Ichiro

Interface administrator changes

• SD0001
• Sohom Datta

Pppery

CheckUser changes

• Spicy
• TheresNoTime

Guideline and policy news

• Following an RFC, the policy on restoration of adminship has been updated. All former administrators may now only regain the tools following a request at the Misplaced Pages:Bureaucrats' noticeboard within 5 years of their most recent admin action. Previously this applied only to administrators deysopped for inactivity.
• Following a request for comment, a new speedy deletion criterion, T5, has been enacted. This applies to template subpages that are no longer used.

Technical news

• Technical volunteers can now register for the 2025 Wikimedia Hackathon, which will take place in Istanbul, Turkey. Application for travel and accommodation scholarships is open from November 12 to December 10, 2024.

Arbitration

• The arbitration case Yasuke (formerly titled Backlash to diversity and inclusion) has been closed.
• An arbitration case titled Palestine-Israel articles 5 has been opened. Evidence submissions in this case will close on 14 December.

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Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 16:19, 3 December 2024 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Fonya (disambiguation)

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A tag has been placed on Fonya (disambiguation) requesting that it be speedily deleted from Misplaced Pages. This has been done under section G14 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a disambiguation page which either

• disambiguates only one extant Misplaced Pages page and whose title ends in "(disambiguation)" (i.e., there is a primary topic);
• disambiguates zero extant Misplaced Pages pages, regardless of its title; or
• is an orphaned redirect with a title ending in "(disambiguation)" that does not target a disambiguation page or page that has a disambiguation-like function.

Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such pages may be deleted at any time. Please see the disambiguation page guidelines for more information.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and removing the speedy deletion tag. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 15:07, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – January 2025

News and updates for administrators from the past month (December 2024).

Administrator changes

Sennecaster

• Daniel
• Hog Farm

• BozMo
• Ferret
• John M Wolfson
• MaxSem
• Panyd
• Tide rolls
• Titoxd

CheckUser changes

• Daniel
• Elli
• Liz
• ScottishFinnishRadish
• Theleekycauldron

Worm That Turned

Ferret

[REDACTED] Oversight changes

• Daniel
• Elli
• Liz
• ScottishFinnishRadish
• Theleekycauldron

Worm That Turned

Guideline and policy news

• Following an RFC, Misplaced Pages:Notability (species) was adopted as a subject-specific notability guideline.
• A request for comment is open to discuss whether admins should be advised to warn users rather than issue no-warning blocks to those who have posted promotional content outside of article space.

Technical news

• The Nuke feature also now provides links to the userpage of the user whose pages were deleted, and to the pages which were not selected for deletion, after page deletions are queued. This enables easier follow-up admin-actions.

Arbitration

• Following the 2024 Arbitration Committee elections, the following editors have been elected to the Arbitration Committee: CaptainEek, Daniel, Elli, KrakatoaKatie, Liz, Primefac, ScottishFinnishRadish, Theleekycauldron, Worm That Turned.

Miscellaneous

• A New Pages Patrol backlog drive is happening in January 2025 to reduce the number of unreviewed articles and redirects in the new pages feed. Sign up here to participate!

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Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 15:48, 5 January 2025 (UTC)

CfD nomination at Misplaced Pages:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 January 6 § States and territories (dis)established in YYYY

A category or categories you have created have been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at Misplaced Pages:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 January 6 § States and territories (dis)established in YYYY on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. harrz 21:02, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

"Ельцин" listed at Redirects for discussion

The redirect Ельцин has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Anyone, including you, is welcome to comment on this redirect at Misplaced Pages:Redirects for discussion/Log/2025 January 15 § Ельцин until a consensus is reached. MimirIsSmart (talk) 17:15, 15 January 2025 (UTC)