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| == Talk page discussions at ] == | |||
| ==Multiple renames, page moves etc...== | |||
| Hello there, I see you've been really busy over the last few hours making lots of changes to pages within the general area of paganism. There are really so many that there isn't an obvious central place to discuss them all with you, hence coming here! You've made some quite fundamental changes - eg and without discussing them on talk pages first - could I suggest that you discuss big moves like this first? (Your obvious redirects are a hood idea and much less problematic, good work on those). You may find that if you move first without discussion, your changes will just get quickly and frustratingly reverted. Best wishes, ] ] 21:31, 21 September 2011 (UTC) | |||
| :Dear Kim Dent-Brown, first of all sorry for possible language mistakes; but English is not my mother tongue. Regarding my edits, I am a ] user, and when I think my edits are good, and well sourced, I do not hesitate in making them. :) --] (]) 22:34, 21 September 2011 (UTC) | |||
| :As for the move of ] to ] you may find a recent proposal . I've moved it to a far more popular term and adopted the terminology regulations discussed . --] (]) 22:41, 21 September 2011 (UTC) | |||
| Hi Bhlegkorbh. I see that for many years you have been active over at the talk page for ]. There are a number of discussions being held at that article's talk page at the moment, regarding both a potential change to the title and regarding whether certain paragraphs should be included or not. If you had the time, your input on those issues (regardless of whether you support my own positions or completely oppose them) would be useful and gratefully received. Best, ] (]) 22:19, 1 September 2015 (UTC) | |||
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| (in reply to a message you left me years ago) Sorry; at that time, I was considering giving up on Misplaced Pages. I still don't edit much, though I did today for a while, I'll be going back to being not very active. Did that article ever improve how you wanted? I don't agree with the redirect to Heathenry, because technically, it could include some things like pagan German Idealist modern philosophy that some of it might be atheist or pantheist, etc.--] (]|]) 07:09, 21 February 2017 (UTC) | |||
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| Sir, I did not mean to offend with with my request for a reversion on the ] page. ''Personally'', I would prefer the term ] for our movement because this has been the name used since the 19th century. In my opinion, attempts to reconstruct Anglo-Saxon or Germanic paganism are wrong headed because we have only Icelandic sources, but people stopped the ] heading here years ago. | |||
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| == "Vrilology" listed at ] == | |||
| I hope we can work together on future edits. | |||
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| --] (]) 23:18, 3 November 2011 (UTC) | |||
| :We are both Germanic Heathens and we should co-work rather than quarrel. I am not offended and I respect the Odinic Rite and the Odinist movement since Odinist groups are doing good job all over Europe. However Odinism is not the only Germanic Neopagan religions; there are many currents and individuals which do not identify as "Odinist". I am one of them, I am a Heathen (and European) identifying neither as an Odinist nor as an Asatruar. "Heathenry" has spread as an umbrella term for ALL Germanic Neopagans, being them Odinist, Asatruar, Urglaawers, Theodsmen, or any other subgroup, and it is often preferred over "Germanic Neopagan" because "Neopagan" is mostly used by Wiccans and related to Wiccan groups and publications. | |||
| :I suggest you to make the ] wiki-entry an article writing what distinguishes the Odinist movement from Asatru, Forn Sidhr and the other branches of Heathenry. --] (]) 17:47, 4 November 2011 (UTC) | |||
| That is good that we can cooperate. | |||
| Our traditions are different, however, In my opinion, the umbrella term is Odinism. Asatru was a new word coined in the 1970's, but it can also be used as an umbrella term. | |||
| Terms such as "pagan" or "heathen" are not really names, but they were insults hurled at the followers of the old gods. Indeed, if we properly translate pagan or heathen, they mean country dweller or "hick" | |||
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| --] (]) 05:44, 5 November 2011 (UTC) | |||
| == Restoration of external link == | |||
| I agree with and support your restoration of this link, and would have done so myself if I had seen it first. But I have to say you could and should have done it more carefully, at least in respect of the edit summary. You're entitled to think whatever you like about other editors, but to use words like "lies" and "maiming" is just not productive. What you did was right; the way you did it was not. | |||
| I am trying hard to act as an honest broker between editors with strongly held views, but I need some help from you as well in trying to generate a collegial and productive atmosphere. You can't blame "the other side" without taking a look at how your own editing actions are affecting the situation. ] ] 12:57, 24 November 2011 (UTC) | |||
| :You're right. I'll try to weigh my words better next times. --] ] 01:39, 25 November 2011 (UTC) | |||
| ==Your behaviour== | |||
| was an interesting edit summary of yours. | |||
| Apparently, you have no qualms in dismissing years of careful work on articles, but when something happens to fit your private agenda you are suddenly all for protecting "work" done by others? | |||
| As a new account joining long-standing, well-developed, stable articles on complicated and well-developed topics, you would do well to get the feel of how progress is made before plunging into edit-wars. ] is an important page. | |||
| Nobody has ever succeeded in defending radical changes to an article by simply insisting they must stay. There is no shortcut for the "D" (discuss) part, and you will need to introduce the changes you want step-by-step, or not at all. | |||
| So you think of yourself as a "bold" user. That is very well, as long as you understand that you may only be "bold" until you are reverted for the first time. After such a revert, you have no business being bold any longer, but you are expected to take a constructive approach towards compromise. If you are incapable of that, your "boldness" will not be of any use to anyone, not to the project, and not to your own agenda. All you will achieve is messing up articles and annoying people. | |||
| Since you clearly have personal stakes in the area you choose to contribute to, ] is also relevant to you. Perhaps you want to hone your Misplaced Pages skills in topics where you have no such stakes first. I for one have very little patience with editors who are blatantly pushing their private ideologies while pretending to be interested in following policy or being encyclopedists. Let us see some work of yours in areas like oceanography, cristallography or the Italian sonnet before you undertake writing about your private religious convictions. --] <small>]</small> 09:52, 28 November 2011 (UTC) | |||
| :It seems the only one here who acts af is articles are of his own personal properties is you. What you did with edit was a restoration of your own revision of the article, and you've tried to do the same to the "Paganism" article. The revision of the 'Heathenism' article I contributed to write is not based on my own private religion, indeed it describes the viwes of the various modern Heathen groups based on sources, and it is an expansion of the old revision (yours) which was completely sourceless and full of dead links. --] ] 11:33, 28 November 2011 (UTC) | |||
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Talk page discussions at Germanic neopaganism
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