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	Hi, I removed the merge tag you placed on ]. While I agree some consolidation of these multiple POV articles is worth considering, these changes are complex. A merge banner on its own messes up the article and doesn't get us closer to finding a way to combine the articles. I ask that you post on the talk page explaining your rationale and how you see the articles being combined before you re-add the merge banner. – ] (]) 01:10, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

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	...I'm going to revert your last contribution to the article ], but if you'll talk to me about it on the ], the problem is it's not clear what exactly you meant. ] (]) 05:27, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

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	Hi! I'd like to point out that many of your recent edits and not in fact minor and you shouldn't mark them as such. See ]. Regards. — <small> ]  ▎]</small>

	You are still marking most of your edits as minor, as edits like is most definitely not considered a minor one and you shouldn't mislead other users into thinking the change was superficial. — <small> ]  ▎]</small> 09:35, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

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	I see you added a globlize tag and reference citation requirement to subject article. I found a reference citation without any problem; but, after working in the field of sanitary engineering for 40 years, I'm a bit puzzled about why you think the article needs a globalize tag. I'll see what I can do about improving the international perspective of the article if you would explain the problem in the article's talk page.] (]) 05:11, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

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	== Bohrok-Kal ==

	Hello. I saw your edit on ]. May I ask you why you put a link on that page that leads to a character of Lord of the Rings? It has nothing to do with that... --] (]) 18:02, 19 March 2012 (UTC)

	You can remove it, I guess... I was just thought it was a likely inspiration for the Bohrok-Kal, given the similarity of the names. ] (]) 21:12, 19 March 2012 (UTC)

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	== Placing a merge tag on a template ==

	Jarble, you placed a merge tag on the template {{tl\|technical}}. This is not a good idea. All the 1600-some articles tagged as overly technical got placed in the articles to be merge category, which totally screwed things up for us mergers. I've deleted the merge tag and taken it to ] which I think is the proper venue for discussing template merges. Thanks, ] ] 04:33, 29 April 2012 (UTC)

	== Fan magazine ==

	Hi. I'm reverting your merge proposal of February 2012 because no rationale was given and the two subjects are differentiated as explained in the text (commercial/for profit nature). There is no support from other editors on the talk pages either. In my experience, use of the <tt>discuss</tt> parameter (as advised at ]) may be more likely to engage other editors. Without this, discussions could potentially take place in separate places, as the default talk location seems to be that of the corresponding article. Thanks for reading. <span style="white-space:nowrap;">-- ]</span> (]) 11:52, 9 May 2012 (UTC)

	OK, thanks for pointing that out. :) ] (]) 16:53, 9 May 2012 (UTC)

	== The use of distinguish tags on articles about software licenses ==

	Please do not re-add a third time the distinguish tag. The distinguish tag is used when there are articles with deceptively similar titles. As I described the first time you added this to ], its the lead that should mention Open source licences and how they relate to the Free software licence article. ] (]) 12:49, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
	update I will try to add this myself. I had forgotten it since last time, but should try to remember it for the weekend. Still, if you feel you have expertise about it, please add it to the article. ] (]) 19:43, 18 May 2012 (UTC)

	== Come join the Ainu Task Force! ==

	Greetings, saw your edits at ] and thought you might like to know that we just founded the ]. Hope to see you on the Members list! ] (]) 18:46, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

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	Hi Jarble!

	Please stop linking ordinary English (or undergraduate logic) terms, such as the logical quantifiers (e.g., "]" or "]"). I reverted your edits to ].

	Please revert similar edits on other mathematics articles.

	Thanks!

	Sincerely, <small><span style="border:1px solid black;padding:1px;">]]</span></small> 21:14, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

	:I have reverted all of your most recent edits on mathematics, because you have been linking trivialities that add nothing to the articles. You have also failed to describe your edits, and often had no edit summaries, which violates the editing policy. Your edits were not malicious or severe errors, but they do distract readers and waste the time of knowledgeable editors, who have to revert them.
	:Please ask an administrator at WikiProject Mathematics to remove all your recent contributions, or go through and do it manually yourself.
	:You need to start describing your edits. <small><span style="border:1px solid black;padding:1px;">]]</span></small> 21:34, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

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	Just wondering what happened . You accidentally reverted my talk page to a revision from 2009 somehow. Any idea what caused it? <span style="color:green">'''Ten Pound Hammer'''</span> • <sup>(])</sup> 23:44, 27 August 2012 (UTC)

	I don't know why this happened, perhaps it was due to a server error. You can revert my edit; I just tried to add a link to that page, and something really strange happened. ] (]) 23:59, 27 August 2012 (UTC)

	==''Dramatic topography?''==
	Hmm - is that an excuse to try to dam every river? a bit on the hyperbolic like the Hydro PR machine during the dams controversies of 50 - 30 years ago methinks.... trust you have a sense of humour or we have got off to a bad start ... ]] 14:08, 2 September 2012 (UTC)

	I didn't change any of the wording - I only added a couple of relevant links to other articles. What biased statements did you notice in the article? ] (]) 14:11, 2 September 2012 (UTC)

	Sorry, never mind, to explain would take ages, about to get off - if its links, It is that I didnt read your edit history properly, my sincerest apologies, just somewhat apprehensive about the subject area - have fun, I'll get out of your way - cheers ]] 14:16, 2 September 2012 (UTC)

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	== Your duplication tags ==


	Hi, Jarble. I'm not understanding your duplication tags, such as these: There are plenty of articles that duplicate text because the text is relevant to more than just one article. And duplicating in part is standard because ] advises that some of the text be summarized in one article while pointing to a link where a different article deals with the topic more extensively. Even the tag you're applying to articles says, "Please discuss this issue on the talk page and conform with Misplaced Pages's Manual of Style by replacing the section with a link and a summary of the repeated material..."

	And even when articles share more text than just the summary, it's still fine as long as it's not too excessive. I notice that the tag links to ]. But see what ] says. So pretty much, I don't even understand why the tag you're using exists. Duplication should only be an issue when there is extensive duplication or simply duplicate articles. ] (]) 09:33, 6 September 2012 (UTC)

	:Should this tag only be used in cases of extensive duplication (i. e., copying several paragraphs of text)? I noticed that the article '']'' duplicates much of the text of the article '']''. ] (]) 15:10, 6 September 2012 (UTC)
	::Jarble, like I stated above, "There are plenty of articles that duplicate text because the text is relevant to more than just one article." Above, I also extended that to articles that share more than just the WP:Summary style text. Your of the duplication tag still doesn't seem completely correct because, from what I can see, the articles are applying WP:Summary style. However, some of their sections are pointing to sections of other articles where the section isn't even going over anything new -- that is, they aren't extensively elaborating on the topic; as such, in those cases, the tag may be okay to use. But it just seems like a useless tag to me because so many Misplaced Pages articles have a small, meduim or large overlap. The duplication tag could apply to most of the articles on Misplaced Pages. Whatever the case, it definitely shouldn't be placed at the top of articles; it's a section tag, at least the one you're using, not a "whole article" tag. I'ved asked another editor to weigh in here -- ] -- the one who talked to you about ]. It seems that you run into formatting issues, as in the correct way to format things, at times, and I believe this to be one of those cases. ] (]) 18:40, 6 September 2012 (UTC)
	:::Just in case you are wondering what happened with Kiefer.Wolfowitz not weighing in, unless you don't care or saw the discussion on his talk page, see . ] (]) 00:37, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

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	== Overlinking again ==

	Please stop doing this and read ] as you were asked earlier to do. Thanks. And explain your edits when they aren't just linking, etc. ] (]) 16:45, 15 September 2012 (UTC)

	Which of my recent edits are considered to be unnecessary linking? I'm not sure which of my links are considered "relevant" and which ones aren't. Do you mean creating multiple links to the same page on a single article? ] (]) 17:08, 15 September 2012 (UTC)

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	I willingly explain why I called you a waste-maker. I spotted many mistakes besides the infamous ]. Some mistakes are so severe that a user with thousands of edits is not expected to make these in quantities over one percent (except for mistakes which are immediately corrected).
	* the link ] is red, so it is not evident, what do you expect the article and redirect to be about. To me, it is ambiguous: one can mean either real-world terrorism originated in Arab countries, or some stereotypical depiction of a male Arab terrorist, like ] or so. Attempt to rely on a red link was a mistake.
	* a botched wikification (first link). You know yourself why it was botched, but it remained uncorrected until my intervention.
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	* one edit with two changes, and both were wrong. First, a clueless pseudo-wikification of ]. If a dab page lists a person in question, then a correct (disambiguated) link must be inserted. If it does not, then you should either insert an own disambiguated link (if you feel that a person has some notability apart of his near-death experience), or do nothing. The link to a dab page has absolutely no merit in this context. Second, your spelling corruption in ] which, though, was fixed by your subsequent edit (but producing an unneeded redirect in the process).
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	I didn't create the redirect - it already existed, but it redirected to a different page. ] (]) 20:34, 25 September 2012 (UTC)
	: Agree, you technically did not ''create'' it. You did not make worse a thing which already was bad. But I do not understand your intention with this page. ] (]) 20:40, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

	I don't have any ulterior motives - I just hope that the debate over the "]" redirect will be resolved soon. It might be best to delete this redirect (or perhaps turn it into a disambiguation page) so that all current links to this redirect can be re-targeted. (This particular redirect created more controversy than I thought it would - I wasn't trying to offend anyone.) ] (]) 20:49, 25 September 2012 (UTC)
	: A disambiguation page? I did not think about it, really. Yes, in that case your action become a correct one; but you should propose it at ], not here. I am slightly paranoid about "waste-making" and does not always think about creative alternatives. ] (]) 21:14, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

	A summary of my intentions: I believed that "Arab terrorist" was synonymous with "Islamic terrorist", but I was incorrect this time. I won't mind at all if someone deletes the redirect (since it is somewhat ambiguous and confusing). ] (]) 20:49, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

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