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I come here kind of converted (after I reverted you many times) and ask for your help in creating an infobox template. I managed to use an existing one in ] and got help for the pic cropping ;) Now I would like to have one for the Bach cantatas (about 200) and started, after the model choir, ]. One problem I see: the page name (example ]: ''Darzu ist erschienen der Sohn Gottes'', BWV 40) is not the wanted name, only the text portion of it, the BWV # should go separately. Where to place Johann Sebastian Bach? Please feel free to change and advise, perhaps right there, I'll watch, --] (]) 23:05, 14 December 2012 (UTC)
:You have separate {{para|name}} and {{para|title}} parameters; is that deliberate, or is one redundant? {{para|name}} will default to using the page's title, if you don't enter a value, but if you enter, say {{para|name|Darzu ist erschienen der Sohn Gottes}} that will display. Do all the cantatas have German names; and should we also include an English translation? Are there cantatas by other composers, for whom this infobox could also be used? I've moved the template to {{Tl|Infobox Bach cantata}} and made some tweaks, and will do more once you've answer this. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); ]; ]</span> 12:40, 15 December 2012 (UTC)
::Thank you! (I didn't know enough to tell the difference between title and name, nor about the default, learning.) I thought about it some more and think we might expand it to Bach compositions in general, then we might use the BWV number for the title and have the (longish) German title in smaller print. I am not enthusiastic about a translation, because there are always several, none of them is a title, only attempts, not even the German ones are titles, they are known by the first line of text, - some make sense, others not. I also thought about more parameters like key, number of movements, number of chorales. Actually, then every chorale might get a year/poet/composer. The German WP has always the same picture of old Bach, but that is way too old for 95% of his compositions. I would rather use one for the first location of performance. - After polishing a bit more we should discuss it with project Classical, of course ;) --] (]) 22:10, 16 December 2012 (UTC)
:::I shall look forward to that. Are you happy to proceed with the changes you suggest, or do you need help from me? Shout if and when you do. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); ]; ]</span> 22:21, 16 December 2012 (UTC)
::::I will sing when I need help, more likely tomorrow. (watching here) - As I complete surprise, I heard ] yesterday! --] (]) 22:29, 16 December 2012 (UTC)


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I changed a bit, started {{Tl|Infobox Bach composition}}, and ], (keeping the other in case 2 are wanted). If "composition", the variables for voices would be optional. Assuming we wanted several variables for each chorale (title, poet, year, composer), how would that look? --] (]) 11:17, 17 December 2012 (UTC)


I added "type", and followed the date example in BWV 36 and 152. Could you please start the documentation? It looks like it's there to stay ;) - Where can we define the abbreviations for scoring? At present they are in the ], linked for cantatas but not other works, --] (]) 09:01, 27 December 2012 (UTC)


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{{od}}Done. I've moved the scoring to the end, under a linked sub-heading. Note the markup in the example, which is different from that in the live article. Please copy it back there if or when you're happy with it. Do you think, for example, that <nowiki>{{abbr|Cemb|cembalo}}</nowiki>, which renders as {{abbr|Cemb|cembalo}}, would be better if it was entered as <nowiki>{{abbr|Cemb|harpsichord}}</nowiki> and rendered as {{abbr|Cemb|harpsichord}}? (You may get a pop-up "tool-tip", if you hover your mouse over those, depending on which browser you use). We could create a template for each, such as <nowiki>{{harpsichord}}</nowiki>, to make data entry more intuitive; but not all the desired names may be available.


Hi there. You reverted my deletion from ]. In the Transdiffusion Broadcasting System source, I can see she says 'Good afternoon everybody. How are you? Do you remember me, Jasmine Bligh?', but where does she continue 'Well here we are after a lapse of nearly seven years ready to start again and of course we are all terribly excited and thrilled.'? ] (]) 12:57, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
Also, I note that you have "{{abbr|A|alto}}{{abbr|T|tenor}}{{abbr|B|bass}}" (no spaces) but "{{abbr|S|soprano}} {{abbr|A|alto}} {{abbr|T|tenor}} {{abbr|B|bass}}" (with spaces). Perhaps both should be rendered as a list, using {{Tl|flatlist}}? For example:


:As I said in my edit summary; in the citation: . <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); ]; ]</span> 13:30, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
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Finally (for now!) can {{Tl|Infobox Bach cantata}} be redirected to {{Tl|Infobox Bach composition}}, or deleted? <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); ]; ]</span> 11:46, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
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:Thanks for your ideas! Beginning in the end: the questions (one or two templates, if one which name) should be answered by (slow) Classical music, let's perhaps redirect cantata for now. Its A T B for the soloists because they almost always sing one after the other, ] because they sing almost always together, both consistent with the infobox in German. SATB is so common an abbreviation that I would hesitate to spell it out. The abbr for instruments are not quite as common, but well known among musicians, - for the others: it's all there in prose in the article. Let's keep thinking. ] (]) 12:06, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
::I'll do the redirect shortly. Abbreviations need to be marked up as shown, even if they are explained elsewhere in the article. You could use, say, <nowiki>{{abbr|SATB|soprano, alto, tenor and bass}}</nowiki>. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); ]; ]</span> 12:14, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
:::To write "soprano, alto, tenor and bass" is like writing "Doctor" instead of "Dr.", "International Business Machines" instead of "IBM", would you? SATB even has an article, --] (]) 12:22, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
::::For the latter, probably not, as "IBM" is, I believe, now the formal name of the company. For "doctor", certainly - and that is far more widely understood by the general public than "SATB". If ] exists, then it should be a link in the infobox. <nowiki>]</nowiki> should do it; it renders as ]. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); ]; ]</span> 12:37, 27 December 2012 (UTC)


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:I've added {{para|Key}}, {{para|Movements}] and {{para|Related}}. I'll happily do the rest, if you can be a little more specific. Do you want all the text and scoring parameters from {{tl|Infobox Bach composition}}? <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); ]; ]</span> 12:32, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
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:::Feel free to draw up a list once you've one that, and I'll implement it for you. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); ]; ]</span> 12:49, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
::(ec) I started ], scoring could just say string orchestra (as here), wind quintet, large orchestra, piano trio, without specifying instruments for the moment. --] (]) 12:51, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
::next ] (remember, written ]): I think room for a pic would be good, could be composer or score - or nothing, --] (]) 13:18, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
:::There's {{para|Cover}} for images. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); ]; ]</span> 13:50, 27 December 2012 (UTC)


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Thanks, helped, - how about composers? --] (]) 12:33, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
:{{tl|Infobox person}} or {{tl|Infobox musical artist}} (the latter particularly for performing composers, like Michael Nyman) . {{tl|Infobox composer}} exits, but is a hamstrung version of the former, designed only to prevent its features being used, and with no benefits. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); ]; ]</span> 12:46, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
::I tried the performer on ], a start. I can see why the project isn't happy with the infobox ;) I don't need the heading "background" - what else? For a European person, I would prefer ddmmyyyy format for the birthday. I would like to mention where he studied, teachers, notable works. --] (]) 14:23, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
:::Some members of that project are not happy with any infobox. I've fixed the date display for you, using {{para|df|y}} in the date template. You can, of course, propose changing or removing the heading, on the infobox's talk page. Or just switch to {{tl|Infobox person}}, which also has the additional fields you desire. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); ]; ]</span> 14:43, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
::::Thanks for help and precision ;) Good comment on Cosima! I will look at Person again, I must have missed parameters, --] (]) 14:49, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
:::::Specifically, {{para|education}} and {{para|alma_mata}}for studying. And thank you for your kind words; its a pleasure to work with you. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); ]; ]</span> 14:59, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
::::::Shared pleasure! I found education and added works, including my ]. I miss - for a composer - publisher and label. Getting closer to presenting to the project ;) --] (]) 15:22, 27 December 2012 (UTC)


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I was challenged about Bach and thought about him ;) - He was active at distinct times in different locations, different types of works those locations. Is there a way to show that in an infobox? He's probably not the only one. - Cosima: of course all these FAs don't have an infobox because they are mostly composers, - what a surprise; --] (]) 20:35, 30 December 2012 (UTC)
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:If Bach's periods of activity are distinct and named, you could have a {{para|period}} parameter. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); ]; ]</span> 20:44, 30 December 2012 (UTC)
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::Not there yet in "person", right? any other, with example? --] (]) 20:55, 30 December 2012 (UTC)
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:::Sorry; misunderstood. You could perhaps use Infobox person's {{para|style}}, {{para|movement}}, or {{para|years_active}}, entering multiple values using {{Tl|Plainlist}}. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); ]; ]</span> 20:59, 30 December 2012 (UTC)
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::::Let me understand: so far I avoided "style" as too narrow, "movement" showed as political, - I would like to list concertos in Köthen (certain time), cantatas in Leipzig (later), simple approach, --] (]) 21:16, 30 December 2012 (UTC)
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{{od}} Something like the adjacent, perhaps <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); ]; ]</span> 21:22, 30 December 2012 (UTC)
:::::Looks good! Then perhaps add times/places to works for the connection? --] (]) 21:48, 30 December 2012 (UTC)
::::::Sure. I've done some work on ], BTW. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); ]; ]</span> 22:14, 30 December 2012 (UTC)
:::::::Seen ;) - could use a lot of work, many more compositions should be linked, today I found a cantata with the wrong BWV # ... - but I'm still working on a cantata for New Year's Day ;) - watch my ] for the composer, next year --] (]) 22:24, 30 December 2012 (UTC)


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Thanks Andy,
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Re: Fanie de Jager.
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== Kole Imports Wikiepedia Page _ Any help greatly appreciated. ==
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Dear Andy,


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Regarding the Kole Imports[REDACTED] page: I put up as many articles I could find that have a url - the rest are in print and I don't know how it would work to scan/send over. The articles were written by 3rd party sources about us in industry publications but they are being deemed as Marketing Spam or "Crap".
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Is there any way the page can be stripped to just show name, founding date, basic history, and 1 line stating what our business does and where we import from?


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We have been around for over 30 years and have helped the dollar industry become what it is today, we were one of the first importers of dollar goods from China and partnered with 99 Cent Only Stores to make them what they are today. I feel that people should at least be able to look up our history because it has helped shape/change things. Even before getting this job, I looked at the Kole Imports[REDACTED] page to get insight into and facts about the company.

I definitely see the way it is now as being slightly spammy and there is much that should be taken down. What if it only had this up until we could find notable sources, "According to the Better Business Bureau, the company was founded in 1985 by brothers Rob and Danny Kole." ? Could that work?

Please, let me know. Any help is greatly appreciated!!

Best,
April Rae <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 20:11, 18 December 2012 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== Joint biography and WP:CAT ==

Hi. At ] you added remark "+1" about putting redirects in categories.

I am not ready to make any category, redirect or merge suggestions and this isn't about Authority control or its template so let me reply here.

Concerning my own example joint biography, ]:
: Now i see that 21 February 2012‎ Pichpich has put the two Ahlberg redirects in appropriate categories, and removed substantial article, per ].
: How painful. Thus visitors to the biography see no cats but those deemed appropriate for the joint article alone rather than the redirects.
: That doesn't work for readers or editors. No surprise, the Ahlberg joint biography is back in all of its February categories, and more (in four June/July edits, the last two by me). --] (]) 20:40, 18 December 2012 (UTC)

== Info-boxes ==

Andy, (so sorry about my idiotic confusion about your username ''chez'' Solti the other day) as you are keen on info-boxes may I ask for your help on an info-box question? When I began upgrading the article on ], there were two clashing info-boxes, one on politics and one on cricket, – different widths and it all looked ghastly and messed the layout up something shocking. I couldn't find a way of making the latter merge with the former, and took a chance and left the cricket box out. It would be good to have it back (I am strongly pro userboxes for cricket articles, as they are clearly helpful to the reader) and if you have any suggestions for merging it with the existing box it will be esteemed a favour. Regards. – ] (]) 23:16, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
:It's always a little awkward where we have two infoboxes about on subject in an article, but there are so few instances it's probably not worth the effort to develop a technical fix for all cases. Were {{Tl|Infobox officeholder}} based on {{Tl|Infobox}}, it may be possible with some changes to it, to use the cricketer infobox as a module (a sub-template). but since it;s not (yet), that would require conversion, first. that would require discussion on {{Tl|Infobox officeholder}}'s talk page. Otherwise, I'm ambivalent about whether or not there should be a second, separate, cricketer, infobox in this article, but a reasonable approach would be to canvass opinions on its talk page. I know what you man about Infoboxes' helpfulness to the reader; that's why the Solti box should be restored. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); ]; ]</span> 19:46, 20 December 2012 (UTC)
::Thank you very much for that, Andy. I think I may have raised the point in passing at PR or FAC on the Home article, but I'll certainly follow your advice and raise it now on the article talk page. (I have a fleeting memory of seeing somewhere something about combining info-boxes, and with luck someone may steer me in that direction from the talk page.) With best wishes, and grateful thanks for your colleaguely response. ] (]) 20:09, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

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Magiolidits did most of the work. However he is going to be busy for awhile and asked me to do it.

Before I do it, I thought I'd ask an expert about it. Is it ok to run? Should I wait until approval is granted to remove the <nowiki>small</nowiki> tag? Anything else you can think of? ] (]) 03:11, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
:I guess one run is better than two; but what approval is needed, to remove the <nowiki>small</nowiki> tag? Oh, and don't forget to add a space, if necessary, when removing the <nowiki><br></nowiki>. Thank you. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); ]; ]</span> 20:32, 20 December 2012 (UTC)
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:::I've started the bot and it is off and running. I did about 500 test cases. The only problem found is if the br tag is before a small tag at the end... <nowiki>honorific-suffix=<small>Jane Doe<br></small></nowiki>. Bot will remove small tags, but not the br. This can be remedied at the next database dump in 12 days.
:::The edit summary message I'm leaving is: Remove br/small tags from honorifics in Infobox per ]. br tags now in infobox code. Line spacing will be altered in infobox code once tags are gone.
:::Oi vey, I have a feeling alot of complaints will be coming to my talk page. ] (]) 18:58, 21 December 2012 (UTC)
::::I suggest you refer any such comments to the template talk page. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); ]; ]</span> 11:06, 22 December 2012 (UTC)

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:Thank you. Once we've got the markup crud out of the way, I hope we can have a sensible, centralised, discussion about how honorifics should be formatted, across all, our biographical infoboxes. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); ]; ]</span> 11:04, 22 December 2012 (UTC)

== Re: Fanie de Jager ==

Hallo Andy,

I have changed the main photo from BW to colour.

There is a file name above the image. Could you please remove it for us.

Many thanks.

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about a recent edit of yours at ]. You appear to me to have added a category, "Date of death missing" but the date is in the article and as a category. Or am I missing something? Einar aka ] (]) 18:39, 21 December 2012 (UTC)
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:We have the year, but not the ''date'' (e.g. 23 April). <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); ]; ]</span> 18:50, 21 December 2012 (UTC)
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:::It's a core ]. As for BO; see ]. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); ]; ]</span> 18:54, 22 December 2012 (UTC)
That would be "The burden of evidence lies with the editor who adds or restores material,"? Sorry to bring up BO, I just an skeptical that many biographies include references for birth/death dates. However I will check and have no problem being wrong. ] (]) 19:18, 22 December 2012 (UTC)


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Hi there. You reverted my deletion from BBC Television. In the Transdiffusion Broadcasting System source, I can see she says 'Good afternoon everybody. How are you? Do you remember me, Jasmine Bligh?', but where does she continue 'Well here we are after a lapse of nearly seven years ready to start again and of course we are all terribly excited and thrilled.'? Masato.harada (talk) 12:57, 10 January 2025 (UTC)

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2025 opened with trumpet fanfares that first sounded OTD in 1725 (as the Main page had). Today I had a composer (trumpeter, conductor) on the main page who worked closely with another who just became GA, - small world! To celebrate: mostly flowers pics from vacation ;) - How are you? -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:09, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

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