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January 20

Foreign language citation in English articles?

I was reading an English article and was unsatisfied with the amount of information, so I switched it to Spanish (a language I can read) and found a lot more info there. If I wanted to write some of that into the English article for those who can't read Spanish, would it be appropriate to still use the Spanish-language citations? Qqars (talk) 02:34, 20 January 2025 (UTC)

Hi Qqars. The sources cited on English Misplaced Pages articles do not have to be written in English themselves. But if you wish to use them here, it is your responsibility to double-check that they actually do support the content you write. Sometimes a ref might be incorrect in one place, and then copied to somewhere else in a way that spreads the mistake even more widely. That happens even in English sources, but copying between different[REDACTED] sites seems to be more prone to it. DMacks (talk) 02:38, 20 January 2025 (UTC)

What DMacks says. Additionally, remember that a lack of information in an English-language article doesn't necessarily reflect a lack of English-language sources; it may instead reflect a lack of energy for looking for those English-language sources that do exist. -- Hoary (talk) 02:42, 20 January 2025 (UTC)

@Qqars: I would encourage the use of the trans-title parameter when citing a non-English source. Fabrickator (talk) 06:53, 20 January 2025 (UTC)

Content of a filmography

I'm looking at the page of a director and their filmography a number of items described as "documentary installation" which I assume are a form of video installation. Do these belong on a filmography? The filmography also contains standard films. Also, this filmography contains a number of short films for which I can find few, if any sources. Do items on a filmography have to be notable? Truthnope (talk) 04:12, 20 January 2025 (UTC)

Can you give us a link to the page ? Anatole-berthe (talk) 09:00, 20 January 2025 (UTC)

Tina Gharavi. For full disclosure, the IP address that made the recent edits on that page are mine. I only started using this account recently. Truthnope (talk) 09:34, 20 January 2025 (UTC)

I don't know if there are an official policy about cite films that aren't notable in the filmography of someone who is notable. Anatole-berthe (talk) 10:17, 20 January 2025 (UTC)

IMO, filmography entries don't have to be notable. I've added shorts lacking articles just for completeness. I'm not so sure about documentary installations, whatever those are. Clarityfiend (talk) 04:24, 20 January 2025 (UTC)

redict

Popular paksitani drama Meem Se Mohabbat has delated because of socks and redirect now drama has full sources, should i unredict or draft? by --Sunuraju (talk) 12:34, 20 January 2025 (UTC)

Create draft first, and a reviewer will unredirect it once the draft is accepted into the mainspace. Tutwakhamoe (talk) 12:50, 20 January 2025 (UTC)

Citing CVs?

For biographies of academics, is their CV considered sufficient to cite for things like editor positions or honors? Mcavoybickford (talk) 12:51, 20 January 2025 (UTC)

Per WP:PROPORTION, just because something is on their CV, it shouldn't necessarily be in the WP-article. See also WP:ABOUTSELF. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 13:07, 20 January 2025 (UTC)

This isn't my claim. My question is whether a CV can function as a citation for the kind of information that belongs in an article. Mcavoybickford (talk) 13:21, 20 January 2025 (UTC)

Hello, @Mcavoybickford. Non-independent sources may be cited for certain kinds of information - see WP:SPS. They do not contribute to establishing notability, and the existence of a source is only one of the considerations which goes into decideing whether a matter should be mentioned in an article or not. ColinFine (talk) 15:23, 20 January 2025 (UTC)

A cite to the website or other publication of the awarding body might be better. That provides a way for readers ro learn about the context of the award, which can be important because sometimes different awards have similar names for various reasons and a CV entry might not use a precise enough wording to prevent confusion. DMacks (talk) 17:22, 20 January 2025 (UTC)

Vandal templates on shared IPs

Hello, I have tagged 92.43.71.70 with {{uw-vandalism4}} after a recent unexplained blanking. I noticed the talk page is flush with historical warnings, but it seems like users would start back from 1 each time. Am I using the template incorrectly (i.e. since 5 years have passed, just start back at 1)? I was under the impression we use the next template in the sequence from whatever is on the page already (assuming no intermediary intervention/discussion). Perhaps proxy accounts have special status? Tule-hog (talk) 18:40, 20 January 2025 (UTC)

Hello, @Tule-hog. There's not much point in putting warnings on IP talk pages anyway, unless there is evidence that the same person is using that IP for a period. But I certainly don't think there's any point in putting a high-level warning, even if the previous warning was only a couple of weeks ago, because it's unlikely that the same person will see it. (Do IPs even get notified of messages on their talk pages? I don't know). ColinFine (talk) 19:31, 20 January 2025 (UTC)

Thanks for reply. In future on IP talk pages lacking evidence of same person throughout, I will only increase vandal template warning if within the same month and I won't go higher than 3. (Template has been useful for me in past as quick check if other users have undone edits that didn't get marked 'Reverted' upon fix.) I took this case to WP:AIV as all edits appear consistently WP:NOTHERE. Tule-hog (talk) 20:53, 20 January 2025 (UTC)

Name correction

Greetings everyone. How do I correct the name of a person on Misplaced Pages? I am able to edit the body but have not figured out how to change the main page name. Thank you Aaronlouis1 (talk) 19:33, 20 January 2025 (UTC)

Hello, @Aaronlouis1. The direct answer to your question is by moving the article. But you should on no account be editing an article about yourself: the most you should do is make a suggestion for change. Please see WP:AUTOPROB. ColinFine (talk) 19:44, 20 January 2025 (UTC)

You may request a page move at Requested moves. Note that Misplaced Pages does not necessarily use legal or official names as article titles, but the most commonly used name, see WP:COMMONNAME.

Please read WP:AUTO before attempting to edit about yourself. 331dot (talk) 19:46, 20 January 2025 (UTC)

Thank you for the info! Aaronlouis1 (talk) 19:59, 20 January 2025 (UTC)

how to check the status of a pending extended-confirmed-protected edit request

Where do I go to check the status of a pending edit request for an extended-confirmed-protected page? Kenfree (talk) 21:26, 20 January 2025 (UTC)

You just go back to the page you made the request on to see if it has been edited. 331dot (talk) 21:37, 20 January 2025 (UTC)

Sorry, where do I find the backlog of protected edit requests to see where one is in the queue? Kenfree (talk) 22:01, 20 January 2025 (UTC)

See the list at Category:Misplaced Pages extended-confirmed-protected edit requests. TSventon (talk) 22:04, 20 January 2025 (UTC)

thanks Kenfree (talk) 22:08, 20 January 2025 (UTC)

January 21

Middleton family

Reference number 191 is in red - I have got it all wrong and I get confused. Please repair the damage. I am sorry Srbernadette (talk) 06:29, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

Srbernadette Fixed, you had written the year in the access date as "20025". Respectfully, you make this specific error quite often; you probably just hit the zero twice by accident. When this happens the red message says "check date values in accces-date", to identify where exactly the issue is. 331dot (talk) 07:08, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

On the phenomenon of the frequent occurrence of specific kinds of error, Srbernadette: On 12 October, Tenryuu suggested to you that "you should consider writing down what other editors have been saying so that you have a 'common mistakes made' note that you can reference to the side of whatever device you're using." If you didn't implement that then, perhaps you could implement it now. -- Hoary (talk) 11:09, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

Whitespace on top of page

The page Vishwaroopam controversies displays a line of whitespace on top of the article. Why is that there, and how can it be removed? Truthnope (talk) 08:16, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

Fixed.--♦IanMacM♦ 08:21, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

phone keyboard constantly recentering the screen

I am trying to edit pages on my Samsung S22 but opening the keyboard will forcefully recenter the screen every couple seconds, making it impossible to see what I'm typing. Sometimes it closes the keyboard entirely.

This problem persists even if I use the "desktop site" option in mobile. I'm using Firefox.

Any solutions? Scuttlebug Jam (talk) 12:17, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

Not had this issue on my A15 (Chrome). Odd. Could you switch to Gboard? JayCubby 14:41, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

I have the same problem with Firefox while using other websites. I think it's Firefox's issue. Tutwakhamoe (talk) 15:19, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

@Scuttlebug Jam, Using Chrome on Android and been through that, but now i am the boss (feeling so). Basically i avoid that by going top again. Ok, simply whenever i enter something, that text hide itself and next line appear at top most screen, at that moment i just scroll to top of the screen (top of the section) and then again scroll to that particular line, and guess what - no issue. try once.––kemel49 17:01, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

Category history

If you add a category to your watchlist, it notifies you when pages are added to or removed from that category. The category history (View History tab) does not show this information, however, as it only includes changes to the category page itself. How would I see the history of additions/removals for any category (regardless of whether it is on my watchlist)? Is it available? If a category suddenly got bigger or smaller, it would be useful to see which pages had been added or removed. --Jameboy (talk) 17:30, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

User:Nardog/CatChangesViewer is useful for this. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 17:32, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

Image

While visiting the page This Must Be the Place (film), I noticed this image: . The source says "Facebook" but the link is not accessible: . The image caption states: "Teaser poster of This Must Be the Place"; but a reverse Google Image brings up Pinterest Paper Cuts of similar sayings: . I'm not sure how to put up an image for deletion; but I think this is not what it purports to be. Maineartists (talk) 23:24, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

Is there another, more stable source (there are usually those that hold images of film posters)? Generally, this would go to Files for discussion or Deletion requests on Commons. But preferably look for one that is fair use. 2601AC47 (talk·contribs·my rights) Isn't a IP anon 23:38, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

OK. Thanks. Taking it to Deletion requests on Commons. This is not a poster for the film ("early" or otherwise). Obviously this was a hoax of some sorts. Maineartists (talk) 00:00, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

This was much harder than I expected. WP does not make it easy to simply place an image up for requested deletion! Yeesh! I placed the required template on the image page here: , but from there on it's just a big mess. As instructed: and then listed: ; but it does not seem to be correct. I have successfully placed several articles up for AfD but this one threw me. What did I do wrong? TIA. Maineartists (talk) 00:36, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

@Maineartists: The file is uploaded at the English Misplaced Pages (because it's non-free) and not Commons so a deletion discussion should be here and not at Commons. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:51, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

Maineartists, I suggest that you reverse your edits so far and follow the process at Misplaced Pages:Files for discussion. TSventon (talk) 01:06, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

Already done. I was only following the advice / directions given above. Guess I should have gone to FfD first. Thank you, TSventon for linking the process. I had no idea what "so a deletion discussion should be here" meant. Heading there now. This was a first for me. Now I know. Maineartists (talk) 01:13, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

@Maineartists: it's confusing if you are not a copyright expert (neither am I). You are more likely to get specialist advice at Misplaced Pages:Media copyright questions. TSventon (talk) 01:23, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

Thanks. This one had nothing to do with copyright. The image was not what it purported it to be: . The uploader has a history of uploading questionable images to WP with numerous deletions and violations in their history; without any response on their Talk Page to notifications. The image in question has been removed from the article and successfully placed for FfD. Thanks again. Maineartists (talk) 01:31, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

The nomination looks fine. Media Copyright Questions is a place for help with image copyrights, tagging, non-free content, and related questions so I think this query would have been in scope. TSventon (talk) 01:55, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

January 22

Default alt text for image not appearing in article

As you can see I added alt text to the structured data of https://commons.wikimedia.org/File:Greenhouse_gas_emission_and_absorption_by_Turkey.svg

But when I use https://www.w3.org/WAI/test-evaluate/easy-checks/image-alt/ to check

https://en.wikipedia.org/Greenhouse_gas_emissions_by_Turkey#Monitoring,_reporting_and_verification

I cannot see it.

This is the first time I tried to use default alt text so perhaps I have missed something? Chidgk1 (talk) 06:40, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

I don't think you can add alt text to the image itself (i.e., on commons). Alt text is used in an article when you add the image. Otherwise all the different Wikipedias would be stuck with the same wording and language for the alt text. Meters (talk) 07:27, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

See MOS:ALT Meters (talk) 07:29, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

Also see meta:Community Wishlist Survey 2021/Reading/Alt-Texts and Image Descriptions. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:44, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

@Meters Thanks for those links but I am still confused. I already have added English alt text to the image itself (i.e., on commons) - that is not a problem and as it is labelled as "English" I presume other language Wikipedias will not use it but could also add text in their own languages. You can see it on the image link above by clicking "structured data" and scrolling to the bottom of the structured data. My problem is that the text is not appearing when I use the image on Misplaced Pages. Chidgk1 (talk) 14:23, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

@Chidgk1: The image used in Greenhouse_gas_emissions_by_Turkey#Monitoring,_reporting_and_verification is kept on this English wiki at Greenhouse_gas_emissions_by_Turkey#/media/File:Greenhouse_gas_emission_and_absorption_by_Turkey.svg, not on Commons.

Regardless of where it is kept, the image in the article will only have alt text if an alt= has been included in its file statement. For the article concerned, there is no alt= parameter:

] can take out. There is some correlation with the ], such as a dip during the ].]]

You need to add an alt= parameter. You can refer to MOS:IMAGESYNTAX for an example.

The above will apply regardless of where the image is kept.

Note that the alt text should describe what the image is, not the graph's contents. So, for example, "A graph showing the levels of greenhouse gas emissions and absorptions in Turkey from 1990 to 2022.". If the data shown by the graphs in the article is important to the article's readers, then separate tables of the data ought to be included the article, as stipulated by MOS:TEXTASIMAGES. Bazza 7 (talk) 14:47, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

i want to post my content in draft

I am planning to edit my Misplaced Pages content based on the guidelines, but I am unsure how to move it to the draft space. Julynoeh (talk) 07:05, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

It can simply be moved to the draft space by any autoconfirmed user, which you are. See WP:MOVE, but if you mean your content in User:Julynoeh/sandbox, there's little point moving it to Draft. That draft has already been rejected by User:Rusalkii, not just declined, and a rejected draft usually should not be resubmitted. See WP:AFCREVIEW Meters (talk) 07:21, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

@Julynoeh As you must know, since you Wikilinked it, there is an existing article at Over-the-air update. If you have any content from your draft that is reliably sourced and relevant, you could add it to that article. Use your own words to paraphrase the sources you cite, not chatbots. Mike Turnbull (talk) 12:01, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

Inter-language Links in Coding for the German and French Misplaced Pages Severs.

I know how to write an inter-language link to produce a broken link in an English article to a page that does not exist on the English server, but does exist in a foreign language Misplaced Pages server:
French:{{ill|Conann|lt=Conann|fr|Conann (film)}}, i.e. Conann 
German:{{ill|Conann|lt=Meeples' Choice Award|de|Meeples' Choice Award}}, i.e. Meeples' Choice Award 
However, I would like to know the reciprocal German and French coding to do the same thing, i.e. link to a Misplaced Pages article that does not exist on that respective language Misplaced Pages server, i.e. the French or German server, but does exist in the English server:
French: ?
German: ?
Does anyone know if such coding exists and whether there are help pages on the French and German server for this coding? SMargan (talk) 08:55, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

@SMargan: you can check the Wikidata item d:Q13606208. fr:Modèle:Lien exists, but no de equivalent. You could ask at de:Misplaced Pages:Fragen zur Misplaced Pages whether they have anything similar. TSventon (talk) 09:17, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

@SMargan: Each Misplaced Pages language makes its own policies. The German Misplaced Pages has decided to not allow such links in articles. See de:Hilfe:Internationalisierung#Im Text sichtbare Interwiki-Links. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:17, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

@TSventon: TSventon (talk) Thanks for the clarification! You have been a great help. I found this coding on the German server {{#interlanguagelink:en|Friedrich Schiller}}, however, it just seemed to produce no text at all. Now that you have told me that there is no comparative German coding, I will stop looking. SMargan (talk) 11:41, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

@TSventon: TSventon (talk) Sorry to bother you again, but is there a Inter-language Link coding for the Spanish language server as well? SMargan (talk) 11:41, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

Hi, @SMargan. The Wikidata item d:Q13606208 (which TSventon linked to) has an es-wiki link to es:Plantilla:Enlace interlingüístico. Whether or not it has the same functionality as {{ill}} I don't know. ColinFine (talk) 11:54, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

If you add {{#interlanguagelink:en|Friedrich Schiller}} it is the same as ] and changes the en link under In anderen Sprachen to en:Friedrich Schiller. If you were allowed to link the article you would add a colon ]. TSventon (talk) 12:00, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

@TSventon: TSventon (talk) - Thanks once again for your assistance! You have been a great help! SMargan (talk) 13:14, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

Request for Guidance on Article Review

Hello Team,

I have been submitting the article for review for the past three days, but it is still showing as a draft, with no violations indicated on the talk page. Following Misplaced Pages guidelines, I disclosed that this is a paid contribution and added the following statement to my user page:

"This user, in accordance with the Wikimedia Foundation's Terms of Use, discloses that they have been paid by ZAPTA Technologies on behalf of Nasir Ali for their contributions to Misplaced Pages."

I have published this article without any charges. Could you please advise on the next steps?

Best regards,

Mohsin Ali (Taching1989) Taching1989 (talk) 09:51, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

@Taching1989 I have added the template which will allow you to submit the draft for review. Before you do, find a better source for citation #1. You use Crunchbase, which is deprecated (see the link). Are you sure your draft shows how the company meets our notability criteria for companies? Mike Turnbull (talk) 11:48, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

Thanks for guidance, should I remove Crunchbase link? Taching1989 (talk) 11:53, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

Hello, @Taching1989. Without looking at the draft, I would reply Yes, you should remove the Crunchbase link, and any information which is cited only to that link (unless you can find a better source for that information). ColinFine (talk) 11:55, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

Yes, I removed it. I am looking for more guidance to publish my article. Taching1989 (talk) 11:56, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

I have removed the link and submitted it for review. Kindly check if everything is completed. Taching1989 (talk) 12:01, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

Editing an image I created for the Portuguese Misplaced Pages on the English Misplaced Pages

Edição de uma imagem que eu criei para a[REDACTED] em português na[REDACTED] Inglesa

Eu criei e editei na pagina Terno Pitagórico da Misplaced Pages de Lingua Portuguesa uma imagem geométrica de minha autoria para a compreensão da minha edição "Dedução das equações algebrica do trio pitagórico a partir da geometria". Eu preciso fazer upload desta imagem para a edição na pagina Pythagorean Triple da Wikipédia de língua Inglesa, e tentei de varias formas e não consegui, por esse motivo não consegui minha edição. Quando fiz o upload da imagem na edição em Português eu coloquei como imagem livre para uso. Aguardo uma orientação para eu poder fazer upload da imagem e conseguir a minha edição na Wikipédia Inglesa. Gonzagalaier (talk) 11:58, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

Translation: Editing an image I created for the Portuguese Misplaced Pages on the English Misplaced Pages

I created and edited on the pt:Terno pitagórico (Pythagorean Triad) page of the Portuguese Language Misplaced Pages a geometric image of my own for the understanding of my edition "Deduction of the algebraic equations of the Pythagorean trio from geometry". I need to upload this image for editing on the Pythagorean Triple page of the English Misplaced Pages, and I have tried in several ways and have not been able to, for this reason I have not been able to edit it. When I uploaded the image in the Portuguese edition I put it as a free image for use. I'm waiting for guidance so I can upload the image and get my edit on the English Misplaced Pages. (via Google translate) TSventon (talk) 12:06, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

@Gonzagalaier Please use English when posing a question here. The file you wish to use appears to be File:Deduction pythagorean triple equations by geometry.png, which is on Commons and can therefore be incorporated into articles on en:Misplaced Pages as explained at Help:Pictures. However, I suspect that its use will be controversial, so you should probably discuss this on the article's Talk Page at Talk:Pythagorean triple. Mike Turnbull (talk) 12:16, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

How unredict

few weeks i made draft of Aye Ishq-e-Junoon by added soruces and summit for review but CNMall41 rejected my draft twice and i keep and rediting add soruces for series which CNMall41 think i was one of socks, i was fifteen year veteran joined Misplaced Pages and when moved Aye Ishq-e-Junoon to main page, there was re-editing by someone and i had noticed my article was reviwed by bot and cnmail41 moved to rediect , i had grammar issues by --Sunuraju (talk) 12:12, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

@Sunuraju Your draft was examined by the experienced reviewer User:CNMall41, who noted that it used unreliable sources. It has been redirected to a related article. CNMall41 may wish to comment further. Mike Turnbull (talk) 12:37, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

should i add relibale sources ? Sunuraju (talk) 12:46, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

The edit summary at Aye Ishq-e-Junoon was NEWSORGINDIA and other unreliable sources. Redirecting as an alternative to deletion but will take to AfD should there be an objection. Basically, the opinion was that this was not a notable topic. You can either revert the redirection and add sources (but make sure they are reliable), or do nothing.

Be aware if the sourcing still doesn't meet GNG it'll likely go through AfD. Lee Vilenski 13:02, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

To be clear, you DO have a conflict of interest, likely UPE and in the least are MEAT. Don't expect to be rewarded for such. --CNMall41 (talk) 18:18, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

Deleting my contributions

How do I go about deleting all my contributions in wikipedia? Clp69 (talk) 18:02, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

@Clp69 You can revert the contributions you have made but they will not be deleted from the edit history of any article and may be restored by other editors. When you add any content to Misplaced Pages, you irrevocably license it CC BY SA 4.0, as it says when you publish/save any edit. Mike Turnbull (talk) 18:14, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

Your contributions cannot be deleted, but if referring to vanishing, see this for how to properly do that. We’re sorry if there are any complications you’ve had here. 2601AC47 (talk·contribs·my rights) Isn't a IP anon 18:15, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

@Clp69 Furthermore, every time you edited Misplaced Pages you were clearly told that you agree to irrevocably release your text under the CC BY-SA 4.0 License and GFDL. Shantavira| 09:56, 23 January 2025 (UTC)

Creating an article

Dear Misplaced Pages: I'm the librarian for Waterford High School (CT). The Athletic Director put together a history of the athletics program from when the school opened in 1956 to the present day. I foolishly (bravely?) suggested I would make a Misplaced Pages page out of the information and link it to the school's page. And now, of course, I have no idea what I am doing. Is there a primer that could walk me through the process? Should I find a copy of Misplaced Pages for Dummies? Any help would be appreciated. Thank you, Matt Cadorette, Librarian, Waterford High School Waterford, CT Mcadorette (talk) 18:22, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

Hello, @Mcadorette, and welcome to the Teahouse.

In addition to the good advice given by 2601, My earnest advice to new editors is to not even think about trying to create an article until you have spent several weeks - at least - learning about how Misplaced Pages works by making improvements to existing articles. Once you have understood core policies such as verifiability, neutral point of view, reliable, independent sources, and notability, and experienced how we handle disagreements with other editors (the Bold, Revert, Discuss cycle), then you might be ready to read your first article carefully, and try creating a draft. ColinFine (talk) 21:53, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

A Wizard is available to walk you through these steps. See the Article Wizard.

Before creating an article, please search Misplaced Pages first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines with which all articles should comply. As Misplaced Pages is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.

Articles must also demonstrate the notability of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for people, bands and musicians, companies and organizations and web content and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating the article.

If you still think an article is appropriate, see Misplaced Pages:Your first article. You might also look at Misplaced Pages:How to write a great article for guidance, and please consider taking a tour through the Misplaced Pages:Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation. An Article Wizard is also available to walk you through creating an article. 2601AC47 (talk·contribs·my rights) Isn't a IP anon 18:25, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

January 23

Category:Mass murderers

I was going to post at Category talk:Mass murderers, but there was a note recommending I post here instead. The Category:Mass murderers doesn't seem to have a clear inclusion criteria. Is it all individuals who have killed 3 or more people without a cooling off period? Do they need to have been convicted in court for murder? Is it mainly for mass shooting/mass stabbing, or do bombings count? Do they need to have committed the act themselves, or can they be included if they ordered or masterminded the killings? VR _{(Please ping on reply)} 04:39, 23 January 2025 (UTC)

@Vice regent: I guess it's all of them though I'm not sure. Gnu779 ( talk) 12:45, 23 January 2025 (UTC)

@Gnu779 what is the best place to have this discussion? VR _{(Please ping on reply)} 12:59, 23 January 2025 (UTC)

Hello, @Vice regent. The talk page of one of the WikiProjects linked on that Category talk page: probably WT:Crime and Criminal Biography, I would have thought. ColinFine (talk) 13:52, 23 January 2025 (UTC)

Thanks VR _{(Please ping on reply)} 13:55, 23 January 2025 (UTC)

what

What if blocked IPs edit with a proxy? Is it okay if they only do good edits? Gnu779 ( talk) 12:43, 23 January 2025 (UTC)

@Gnu779 Does Misplaced Pages:Open proxies answer your question? Shantavira| 13:13, 23 January 2025 (UTC)

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