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| == 2025 == | |||
| ==''Gramophone'' magazine public service announcement== | |||
| Reminder re: now-defunct ''Gramophone'' website: "strip the dead URLs from ''Gramophone'' citations and leave the citations as they would have been if they had originally referred to the print edition, i.e. author, article title, month and year, and page number..." - ] (]) 2:47 pm, 9 February 2013, Saturday (20 days ago) (UTC−5) | |||
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| == His Master's Voice == | |||
| Thanks for participating in the PR (]). '']'' is now at FAC.--] <sup> ] </sup> 08:22, 2 March 2013 (UTC) | |||
| Hello! Thank you for the post on my talk page. I have been working tirelessly on "His Master's Voice" related matters for the past couple of months, trying to understand the fragmented history of the brand. Unfortunately, most recordings on Misplaced Pages use the article ] as a label, however this page is strictly about the painting and trademark that was sold in 1899. | |||
| == Orthography, re:] == | |||
| I turned ] to ] and began removing the ] on the recording pages and replacing it with ] under the belief that 'His Master's Voice' became its own record label in 1952 when the Gramophone Company ventured into pop music. However, on further inspection, all His Master's Voice releases still have The Gramophone Company Limited imprinted on them. And then doing some further research, His Master's Voice was never incorporated as a recording company, only as a retailer. | |||
| On behalf of this humble ], you're welcome for the spelling edit. Thanks for creating the article in the first place and growing Misplaced Pages. ] (]) 00:03, 3 March 2013 (UTC) | |||
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| :Another waste of time deletion nomination: I've swapped the image on the article with the one from Commons, where it is freely and adequately licensed. There's no issue with it here, but as there's a Commons copy, that may as well be used (Iruka13 is blocked on Commons for "wikilawyering, contributing in bad faith and other tangential nonsense", so there is no danger that their version will face a similarly spurious deletion; hasten the day the process is repeated here). - ] (]) 09:50, 6 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
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| If you're in a good mood you might like to cast your reviewer's eye over the above, my first venture into the world of political biography. Perhaps the surname may tempt a few curious readers to find out what Angela's grandad did for a living. I can but hope. ] (]) 18:43, 5 March 2013 (UTC) | |||
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| :I shall do so with the greatest pleasure. More within 48 hours. ] (]) 18:49, 5 March 2013 (UTC) | |||
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== Opinion == | ||
| @] Is the use of false titles permitted in an article nominated at FAC? Looking forward to your response. Regards. ] (]) 11:50, 11 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| :There is no rule against it. Although it is a lumpen, tabloidese usage it is in widespread use in AmE prose (except for ''The New York Times'', whose style guide is a delight to read on the subject) and it is not actually wrong in BrE – just rather naff. If an FAC nominator insists on using it, that is certainly not reasonable grounds for opposing the promotion of the article. '''<span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;">]]</span>''' 12:02, 11 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| ::{{green|Al-Altan must have attended the party to be accused of the crime, but why she was present there and not in the Uighur lands is not certain.}} | |||
| ::Or | |||
| ::{{blue|Al-Altan must have attended the party to be accused of the crime, but her reason for being present there and not in the Uighur lands is not certain.}} | |||
| ::The above sentence is an extract from the article ], who is one of Genghis Khan's daughters, which has been nominated at FAC. @] Could you please tell me which version you prefer and why? Looking forward to your response. Regards. | |||
| ::'''P.S.''' The first sentence is the one used in the article. ] (]) 08:47, 18 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| :::Neither are wrong and both are clear. Don’t let your personal preferences get in the way of reviewing properly. - ] (]) 09:22, 18 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| :::The second version is not coherent. "Reason" has the meaning of "an account or explanation" here. What does it mean for "an explanation to be not certain." Is it existence not certain or is it not adequate? ]] 12:49, 18 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| == Joyce Grenfell == | |||
| Thank you for your very constructive review of the Number 10 Downing Street article. For the last two days I have been editing it to address as best I can most of your comments and recommendations. I am making very good progress. I don't know the Misplaced Pages rules about reviews but hopefully you will be able to re-open the review soon.] (]) 23:47, 16 March 2013 (UTC) | |||
| I suspect I’ve irritated you by questioning your judgement on an article on which you’ve spent a lot of time. I understand the feeling, but I would appreciate it if you wouldn’t make the discussion personal. | |||
| We’re all here to improve the article and it looks likely that no change will be made, so no need to fall out, eh? ] (]) 17:10, 14 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| == Delius == | |||
| :I hope very much that (with a single exception, and I'd better not mention her username) I have respected all the fellow editors I've encountered over nearly two decades here. It is true that tut-tut-tut and whats-his-name and also you-know-who have driven me up the wall from time to time over the years, but we're all God's creatures and I daresay I've done some up-wall driving myself to other editors. The task of filling up the blanks I'd rather leave to you. '''<span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;">]]</span>''' 17:40, 14 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| ::I felt a little like I was being told off, I won’t lie, but you’re not disrespectful. | |||
| ::You’ll probably have noticed that I replied to you on the article talk page and then self-reverted – despite my attempt at humour my tone was harsher than I intended. If you’d like me to reinstate it I will (with a strikethrough?), though. | |||
| ::The article looks to be in very good shape, by the way, largely thanks to you. Have you considered a GA nomination? I’d certainly help support it. ] (]) 17:51, 14 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| :::The article is not too bad, I think, but to my mind it is a fair way short of GA standard. It's only C class now, though perhaps B class wouldn't be excessively flattering, but for GA I'd want to have a pretty comprehensive picture, and I don't think we have that at the moment. I haven't checked out all the relevant sources and I don't think I have much more to add to the text, but if you or anyone else would like to have a go at improving it with a view to GAN I'd be offering enthusiastic support. '''<span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;">]]</span>''' 18:11, 14 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| ::::Article class: I just looked at the article, and I would say that the only thing holding the article back from being B-class is that the Lead section does not appear to give enough of an overview of the article. Regards, -- ] (]) 04:50, 15 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| == Invitation to discussion == | |||
| Thank you Tim riley for your pointing out. Now I understand my fault. Yet, do you think at least two of them (] and ]) are helpful? If you agree with me, I would like to resume putting links which are really beneficial for readers. Thank you--] (]) 16:03, 6 March 2013 (UTC) | |||
| : I'm really glad to have a message from you. It was totally my fault and I should have been more careful to edit an article. Thank you for your kind consideration.--] (]) 16:22, 6 March 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :: Yes, I have completed translation of ] (in which I found you also made great contribution!) and ] and am working on Delius. Simultaneously, Japanese article on ] is under construction based on booklet by and . Do you think it is worth back-translating into English? For cf., my contributions for musical pieces include ] and ].--] (]) 17:48, 7 March 2013 (UTC) | |||
| Hi, Tim riley! Thank you so much for your revising of ]. Now it is greatly improved. I'm still working on Delius and have translated related articles such as ] and ]. Today, I uploaded ]. When you have time, please pay a brief visit to that article. I hope you will enjoy it.--] (]) 14:38, 17 March 2013 (UTC) | |||
| : Thank you so much for giving intensive revision on ]. I should learn much from your kind corrections. Now I feel sorry, as I made you review my English writing. It is necessary for me to polish writing skills in order not to bother you.--] (]) 18:32, 18 March 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :: I would like to express my sincere gratitude for your giving me kind words. By making small contributions (and occasionally creating new articles) I will answer for your warmest regards. (I agree. The concerto is somehow capricious in form! In fact, I haven't heard many of compositions by Delius, so I started to listen them in this opportunity. Now I'm really fond of them!)--] (]) 05:56, 20 March 2013 (UTC) | |||
| @] You are invited to join ] at ]. Regards. ] (]) 04:12, 16 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| == ] == | |||
| == New ODNB articles on 19th- and 20th-century opera and musical theatre singers == | |||
| If you have a moment and care to put your 2p in, ] is somewhat languishing at FAC. I think you'd prefer it to ] :) Many thanks.--] (]) 22:33, 6 March 2013 (UTC) | |||
| Dear Tim, I recently noticed that last week the editors of the ''Oxford Dictionary of National Biography'' have published their January 2025 update and it is on the theme of . I know you edit in these areas, so I thought you and some of your talk page watchers might enjoy perusing the new biographies, if you have not already done so. Regards, —] (]) 10:37, 16 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| ==Disambiguation link notification for March 8== | |||
| :I hadn't noticed, and I'm most grateful, ], for your telling me. Thank you so much. I'll certainly be looking in. '''<span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;">]]</span>''' 10:40, 16 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
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| ==]== | |||
| I have agreed to peer-review this article about a Norwegian composer. There's some stuff on my talkpage. I've never heard of her, and can find no mention in any of the English-language music reference books. Internet searches don't reveal much, either. Do you think there's anything in the BL that would throw any light? Maybe you'd be prepared to join in the review, if only to encourage another classical music editor ? ] (]) | |||
| ==Infoboxes:== | |||
| I've archived the debate . Nothing more productive was going to come, and the majority approved the motion that info boxes are not always necessary. Seems a good compromise. <small><span style="border:1px solid blue;padding:1px;">]</span></small> 19:19, 12 March 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :*PS: I have never been banned! | |||
| == Norman Hackforth? == | |||
| Sorting through some images on Commons tonight I came across one of Noël Coward performing in Sri Lanka in 1944, and while adding it to the article discovered that we have an entry for his accompanist - ]. Unfortunately, the article turns out to be entirely a lift from his Independent obituary, and so I've had to hack it back to a couple of sentences. | |||
| I am guessing his post-war radio work (he was "the mystery voice" of Twenty Questions) makes him notable enough for an article, but I'm not sure how significant his work with Coward actually was - the obituary suggests he was influential, but until I added the photograph he wasn't mentioned at all in the main article! | |||
| As you wrote much of the Coward article, and you're more up on such things than I, could you have a quick glance at it? Many thanks, ] (]) 22:27, 15 March 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :Done. I enjoyed that. The article as I've left it is no work of art, but 'twill suffice, I think. ] (]) 11:13, 16 March 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ::Amazing - many thanks! ] (]) 12:20, 17 March 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ==Messiah TFA== | |||
| In advance of next Saturday's TFA I've been looking at the ] article. I've fixed a few dead links, removed drive-by uncited text and made other minor changes; otherwise the article looks fit to go. One little problem I can't solve: it may be something to do with my own browser, and therefore not a problem to anyone else, but please take a look at the second item in the Sources section. My computer insists on representing the CD number as a phone number, complete with an icon and a hover message saying "Call this phone number in United Kingdom with Skype". Does this happen with yours? ] (]) 23:22, 16 March 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :I've just tried with Internet Exploder 9 and Firefox 19.0.2 (my only two browsers) and the details pop up as good as gold. How it is that Bad Sir Brian comes by a dubious phone number I (and, let us hope, Lady Boulton) refrain from enquiring. Resident at Riley Towers, but out just now, is a Google chrome user, whom I shall get to check the link tomorrow. ] (]) 23:34, 16 March 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ::Internet ''Exploder''??? ] (]) 00:22, 17 March 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :::Of course! Bill Gates made a bomb with it, you know. ] (]) 21:36, 17 March 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ::::{{tps}} Get rid of, or tame, a Skype add-on (Click-to-Call) in your browser; see e.g. http://community.skype.com/t5/Windows-desktop-client/All-phone-numbers-in-internet-browsers-appear-in-skype-format/td-p/328030 . -- ] (]) 12:24, 17 March 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ==] et al== | |||
| First, I've nominated Lansbury at FAC if you care to check it out. Second, some while back I indicated that my return to music article writing might be via ], and I suggested we could combine forces for this. Are you still up for that? I've done a bit of source researching (see ]) and you may have some suggestions. Now that I have JSTOR access I am a little more independent than I used to be! ] (]) 23:07, 18 March 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :I am. Coincidentally I sent off the other day for Imogen's study of Gustav. Are you happy to follow the modus operandi we adopted for Delius with you taking the lead on the music and me concentrating on the biography? ] (]) 09:18, 19 March 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ::Generally, yes, though we will need to be a bit flexible (as we were with Delius), or you'll end up doing 75% of the work. ] (]) 15:59, 19 March 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :::For a moment I got excited and thought this was about ]. -- ] (]) 16:02, 23 March 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ::::Desist! Or tibia, fibia, Libya and a shepherd's pie peppered with actual shepherd on top. ] (]) 19:36, 23 March 2013 (UTC) | |||
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| *You'll probably have to forward his letter of permission to the OTRS team at ], particularly — ] (]) 13:21, 19 March 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ==Talkback== | |||
| {{talkback|Stefan2|File:Holst-family-tree.tif|ts=00:09, 24 March 2013 (UTC)}} | |||
| ] (]) 00:09, 24 March 2013 (UTC) | |||
| == George Harrison == | |||
| Hi, Tim. Since you commented at the original FAC for ], I wonder if you wouldn't mind giving it a second look for the ] when you get a chance. As always, any input you can provide will be greatly appreciated. Thanks! ] <sup>(]|])</sup> 07:55, 24 March 2013 (UTC) | |||
| * Ping. ] <sup>(]|])</sup> 05:02, 7 April 2013 (UTC) | |||
| == Lyric(s) == | |||
| You are completely correct--but my point was made because a "lyric" poem, here set to music, should still be referred to as a "lyric." Just a personal bias, perhaps, but a lyric is a lyric, whether musically used or not. Do as you will; I tilt at windmills regularly. Thanks for all your good work. ] (]) 02:50, 26 March 2013 (UTC) | |||
| == Main Page appearance: Neville Cardus == | |||
| This is a note to let the main editors of ] know that the article will be appearing as ] on April 2, 2013. If this article needs any attention or maintenance, it would be preferable if that could be done before its appearance on the Main Page. If you prefer that the article appear as TFA on a different date, or not at all, please ask featured article director {{user|Raul654}} or one of his delegates ({{user|Dabomb87}}, {{user|Gimmetoo}}, and {{user|Bencherlite}}), or start a discussion at ]. You can view the TFA blurb at ]. If it needs tweaking, or if it needs rewording to match improvements to the article between now and its main page appearance, please edit it, following the instructions at ]. The blurb as it stands now is below: | |||
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| ''']''' (1888–1975) was an English writer and critic. He became ] correspondent of '']'' in 1919, and its chief music critic in 1927, holding both posts until 1940. His contributions to these two distinct fields in the years before the ] established his reputation as one of the foremost critics of his generation. He considered music criticism as his principal vocation. Without any formal musical training, he was initially influenced by ] and ], but developed his own individual style of criticism—subjective, romantic and personal, in contrast to the objective analysis practised by Newman. Cardus's opinions and judgments were often forthright and unsparing, which sometimes caused friction with leading performers. Nevertheless his personal charm and gregarious manner enabled him to form lasting friendships in the cricketing and musical worlds, with among others Newman, ] and ]. Cardus spent the Second World War years in Australia, where he wrote for '']'' and gave regular radio talks. In his last years he became an inspirational figure to aspiring young writers. {{TFAFULL|Neville Cardus}} | |||
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| ] (]) 23:01, 26 March 2013 (UTC) | |||
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| == Re: '']'' == | |||
| Thank you for your kind words. I have just a few more sources to incorporate into the article and then I will be attempting to promote to FA status. Please feel free to keep an eye on the article, if interested, and to provide feedback during the review. --<font color="navy">]</font> <sub>(<font color="cc6600">]</font>)</sub> 14:57, 27 March 2013 (UTC) | |||
| Update, FYI: ]. Feel free to add comments. Thanks! --<font color="navy">]</font> <sub>(<font color="cc6600">]</font>)</sub> 15:55, 3 April 2013 (UTC) | |||
| == ] == | |||
| Helloelloello! I was wondering if you could review this one. I feel it is adequate for a GA. It has been very well-researched. ♦ ] 19:17, 27 March 2013 (UTC) | |||
| Can you reserve the review for a later date then?♦ ] 09:19, 30 March 2013 (UTC) | |||
| Hehe, and who else is likely to be an expert on here in Fatimid architecture? ♦ ] 12:10, 30 March 2013 (UTC) | |||
| Nearly 10 days...♦ ] 18:41, 9 April 2013 (UTC) | |||
| == Ashton event == | |||
| Hope you're enjoying the long weekend! The sun even seems to have emerged for it, here in the wild fenlands. As promised, a ] - thoughts? ] (]) 22:29, 29 March 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :Thanks - tidied. A general framework for new articles, or a couple of reference examples, would be great; possibly also some notes on when we should have an article on his specific version vs. notes in the article on the overall work. | |||
| :Can I leave it in your capable hands to spread the word about it (you know who to approach better than I do!) or would you like me to send some notices out to various wikiprojects etc? ] (]) 00:30, 30 March 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ::Thanks for your note and well done for Enigma. Perhaps great minds think alike, though luckily not too much alike or there would be too many virgins and hardly any variations. I also had Birthday Offering on my list, but will leave it in case it appeals to someone at the Opera House event. Maybe someone will have a chance to improve on some of my other Ashton efforts. Wise Virgins needs clarification on the full number of movements (8 or 9) and the provenance of each piece. Enigma Variations is a good ballet and probably the only place one ever hears the original end. I wonder if Boult ever conducted the ballet? I noted that watching a recent DVD of an archive film (1950s) of Coppelia there was some sort of junior Royal Ballet principal called Rudolf Offenbach. I wonder if he is any relation? ] (]) 15:33, 2 April 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :::Thanks for a very interesting link, which I did not know about, but will try to remember to use. I did spot one oddity: Gabriel Bacquier is entered giving just one performance per opera in various years in the 60s - maybe they only give first nights for some revivals. But many thanks. ] (]) 15:55, 3 April 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ==Holst== | |||
| A couple of things from your draft: | |||
| *Who did RVW mean by "Vittoria"? Could this be Tomas Luis de Victoria? | |||
| *You have GH working on ''Savriti'' during the war. The impression given is that he was composing it; in fact he finished it in 1908. Any work he did in 1916 would have been polishing in preparation for the 1916 amateur performance. ] (]) 23:57, 30 March 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :*I ''am'' working on Holst, but I am waiting for Abebooks to deliver Dickinson's book. In the meantime - I note you popped into ]; it's now at PR if you think it worthy of any further comment. ] (]) 15:26, 2 April 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ::*Update: I now have the Dickinson book. Whether worth the wait remains to be seen. Amid numerous distractions I have been busy on Holst in my sandboxes, though the pace is somewhat funereal; it should pick up a bit, now. In the meantime, might it be an idea to shift your stuff on to the article page, stick an underconstruction banner in, and work on it there? We need to get some credits in the article history. ] (]) 15:09, 6 April 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :::*Further update: I have now posted the first part of the "Music" section. At 1300+ words it is rather bloated at present, and is missing some refs (which I will add shortly). Also, I haven't harmonised it with your text, so there may well be repetitions of material. I shall be editing it further, and working on the remaining subsections, over the next few days. ] (]) 17:39, 8 April 2013 (UTC) | |||
| == Ballet editathon == | |||
| I've signed up - I'll be seeing ''Gloriana'' at the ROH on the 22nd, so I'll come down to London the previous evening (I don't fancy catching early morning trains). How exactly does the editathon work? (And by the way, ] redirects to ]!) --<font color="forestgreen">]</font><font color="blue">]</font> 11:01, 1 April 2013 (UTC) | |||
| Thanks for the invitation, but I am rarely in London at weekends, alas, and even when I am, family commitments tend to make it difficult to get to such things. I hope it goes well. As for people who might be interested, I'm not sure who to suggest who wouldn't already be in your thoughts anyway. Yours, ]] 10:38, 3 April 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ==] peer review== | |||
| Hi Tim, just a quick note to let you that I have listed ] with a GAC and FAC in mind. It's been three months of intense research, but I'm happy the article is now as complete as it ever could be. If you could spare the time, then It would be great to hear your thoughts. -- '''<span style="text-shadow:7px 7px 8px Black;">]<sup>]</sup></span>''' 16:47, 6 April 2013 (UTC) | |||
| == GE peer review == | |||
| Greetings. Would you be willing to participate in a second peer review to prep the ] article for FAC? Your name was recommended to me by ]. Thanks. ] (]) 21:41, 6 April 2013 (UTC) | |||
| == Not R&H, but his life was quite a drama == | |||
| You probably recall ], who utterly stole the show in one of my coin articles. I've done a bit of work on his article and taken it to peer review and I'd be grateful for your comments in due course. Hope all is well.--] (]) 07:23, 9 April 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ==The Edward Clark connection== | |||
| Hi Tim. You said some nice things about the article I started on ], so I thought you might be interested to know what's happened since. I became aware during my research that his son Conrad Clark lives in Melbourne, so I bit the bullet and contacted him. I live close to 3 hours drive away, but I had reason to be down there and suggested we meet up. He was more than happy to do so; we had a most engrossing 3-hour lunch during which he filled in a number of gaps in my knowledge, told me a lot about his father and mother ], and mentioned a whole host of famous names he'd met through them. | |||
| One little anecdote of many: whenever ] came to London, the first person he always asked after and wanted to see was Edward. ''Vere is Clark?'', he would demand. | |||
| Conrad took me back to his flat, showed my some of his amazing sculptures, showed me the first decent photo I'd ever seen of his father, and let me have a complete printed catalogue of his mother's works. I had to shame-facedly admit to him that, in a lifetime of music listening, I had yet to hear a single note of her music. That's now being attended to. | |||
| Conrad has a website () and a youtube video () but is not connected to the internet at home (he accesses emails at the local library). I took with me a printed copy of my article to give him, and asked for feedback in due course. When he got back to me, he said there was one important omission. He claims ] dedicated his orchestration of the Ricarcare from Bach's '']'' to Edward Clark. I've had a good look around google, but have failed to find any confirmation of this at all. Do you have access to any sources that might shed any light on this? | |||
| Cheers. -- ] </sup></font>]] 13:36, 9 April 2013 (UTC) | |||
| == A barnstar for you! == | |||
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| |style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" | Without your highly valued insights and edits at ], the article would not be FA today! Thanks so much for all the encouragement! ] <sup>(]|])</sup> 20:34, 12 April 2013 (UTC) | |||
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His Master's Voice
Hello! Thank you for the post on my talk page. I have been working tirelessly on "His Master's Voice" related matters for the past couple of months, trying to understand the fragmented history of the brand. Unfortunately, most recordings on Misplaced Pages use the article His Master's Voice as a label, however this page is strictly about the painting and trademark that was sold in 1899.
I turned List of HMV POP artists to His Master's Voice (British record label) and began removing the His Master's Voice on the recording pages and replacing it with His Master's Voice (British record label) under the belief that 'His Master's Voice' became its own record label in 1952 when the Gramophone Company ventured into pop music. However, on further inspection, all His Master's Voice releases still have The Gramophone Company Limited imprinted on them. And then doing some further research, His Master's Voice was never incorporated as a recording company, only as a retailer.
There is no debate that the American releases using the His Master's Voice trademark and artwork are Victor Talking Machine Company or RCA Victor releases.
In an attempt to resolve this, I have made a merge proposal on the Gramophone Company and His Master's Voice (British record label) that I invite you to join. Many thanks. Icaldonta (talk) 15:46, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
File:Hérold-by-David-d’Angers.jpg listed for discussion
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- Another waste of time deletion nomination: I've swapped the image on the article with the one from Commons, where it is freely and adequately licensed. There's no issue with it here, but as there's a Commons copy, that may as well be used (Iruka13 is blocked on Commons for "wikilawyering, contributing in bad faith and other tangential nonsense", so there is no danger that their version will face a similarly spurious deletion; hasten the day the process is repeated here). - SchroCat (talk) 09:50, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
DYK for Home and Beauty
On 6 January 2025, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Home and Beauty, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Home and Beauty has been described as both a "little masterpiece of polite merriment" and a "misogynist comedy dipped in vitriol"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Home and Beauty. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Home and Beauty), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 12:02, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
Opinion
@Tim riley Is the use of false titles permitted in an article nominated at FAC? Looking forward to your response. Regards. MSincccc (talk) 11:50, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
- There is no rule against it. Although it is a lumpen, tabloidese usage it is in widespread use in AmE prose (except for The New York Times, whose style guide is a delight to read on the subject) and it is not actually wrong in BrE – just rather naff. If an FAC nominator insists on using it, that is certainly not reasonable grounds for opposing the promotion of the article. Tim riley talk 12:02, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
- Al-Altan must have attended the party to be accused of the crime, but why she was present there and not in the Uighur lands is not certain.
- Or
- Al-Altan must have attended the party to be accused of the crime, but her reason for being present there and not in the Uighur lands is not certain.
- The above sentence is an extract from the article Al-Altan, who is one of Genghis Khan's daughters, which has been nominated at FAC. @Tim riley Could you please tell me which version you prefer and why? Looking forward to your response. Regards.
- P.S. The first sentence is the one used in the article. MSincccc (talk) 08:47, 18 January 2025 (UTC)
- Neither are wrong and both are clear. Don’t let your personal preferences get in the way of reviewing properly. - SchroCat (talk) 09:22, 18 January 2025 (UTC)
- The second version is not coherent. "Reason" has the meaning of "an account or explanation" here. What does it mean for "an explanation to be not certain." Is it existence not certain or is it not adequate? Fowler&fowler«Talk» 12:49, 18 January 2025 (UTC)
Joyce Grenfell
I suspect I’ve irritated you by questioning your judgement on an article on which you’ve spent a lot of time. I understand the feeling, but I would appreciate it if you wouldn’t make the discussion personal.
We’re all here to improve the article and it looks likely that no change will be made, so no need to fall out, eh? A.D.Hope (talk) 17:10, 14 January 2025 (UTC)
- I hope very much that (with a single exception, and I'd better not mention her username) I have respected all the fellow editors I've encountered over nearly two decades here. It is true that tut-tut-tut and whats-his-name and also you-know-who have driven me up the wall from time to time over the years, but we're all God's creatures and I daresay I've done some up-wall driving myself to other editors. The task of filling up the blanks I'd rather leave to you. Tim riley talk 17:40, 14 January 2025 (UTC)
- I felt a little like I was being told off, I won’t lie, but you’re not disrespectful.
- You’ll probably have noticed that I replied to you on the article talk page and then self-reverted – despite my attempt at humour my tone was harsher than I intended. If you’d like me to reinstate it I will (with a strikethrough?), though.
- The article looks to be in very good shape, by the way, largely thanks to you. Have you considered a GA nomination? I’d certainly help support it. A.D.Hope (talk) 17:51, 14 January 2025 (UTC)
- The article is not too bad, I think, but to my mind it is a fair way short of GA standard. It's only C class now, though perhaps B class wouldn't be excessively flattering, but for GA I'd want to have a pretty comprehensive picture, and I don't think we have that at the moment. I haven't checked out all the relevant sources and I don't think I have much more to add to the text, but if you or anyone else would like to have a go at improving it with a view to GAN I'd be offering enthusiastic support. Tim riley talk 18:11, 14 January 2025 (UTC)
- Article class: I just looked at the article, and I would say that the only thing holding the article back from being B-class is that the Lead section does not appear to give enough of an overview of the article. Regards, -- Ssilvers (talk) 04:50, 15 January 2025 (UTC)
- The article is not too bad, I think, but to my mind it is a fair way short of GA standard. It's only C class now, though perhaps B class wouldn't be excessively flattering, but for GA I'd want to have a pretty comprehensive picture, and I don't think we have that at the moment. I haven't checked out all the relevant sources and I don't think I have much more to add to the text, but if you or anyone else would like to have a go at improving it with a view to GAN I'd be offering enthusiastic support. Tim riley talk 18:11, 14 January 2025 (UTC)
Invitation to discussion
@Tim riley You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Princess Charlotte of Wales (born 2015). Regards. MSincccc (talk) 04:12, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
New ODNB articles on 19th- and 20th-century opera and musical theatre singers
Dear Tim, I recently noticed that last week the editors of the Oxford Dictionary of National Biography have published their January 2025 update and it is on the theme of "Nineteenth- and Twentieth-Century Opera and Musical Theatre Singers". I know you edit in these areas, so I thought you and some of your talk page watchers might enjoy perusing the new biographies, if you have not already done so. Regards, —Noswall59 (talk) 10:37, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
- I hadn't noticed, and I'm most grateful, Noswall, for your telling me. Thank you so much. I'll certainly be looking in. Tim riley talk 10:40, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
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Coming out of your review. Thanks for that! A little derivative at the moment, perhaps, but can probably be expanded further. Serial (speculates here) 20:11, 18 January 2025 (UTC)