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= January 20 =
{{Misplaced Pages:Help_desk/Archives/2013 June 25}}


== Foreign language citation in English articles? ==
= June 26 =


I was reading an English article and was unsatisfied with the amount of information, so I switched it to Spanish (a language I can read) and found a lot more info there. If I wanted to write some of that into the English article for those who can't read Spanish, would it be appropriate to still use the Spanish-language citations? ] (]) 02:34, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
== Article Submission Guidelines ==
:Hi ]. The sources cited on English Misplaced Pages articles do not have to be written in English themselves. But if you wish to use them here, it is your responsibility to double-check that they actually do support the content you write. Sometimes a ref might be incorrect in one place, and then copied to somewhere else in a way that spreads the mistake even more widely. That happens even in English sources, but copying between different[REDACTED] sites seems to be more prone to it. ] (]) 02:38, 20 January 2025 (UTC)


:What {{U|DMacks}} says. Additionally, remember that a lack of information in an English-language article doesn't necessarily reflect a lack of English-language sources; it may instead reflect a lack of energy for looking for those English-language sources that do exist. -- ] (]) 02:42, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
Hello Sir/mam.
::{{reply-to|Qqars}} I would encourage the use of the ''trans-title'' parameter when citing a non-English source. ] (]) 06:53, 20 January 2025 (UTC)


== Content of a filmography ==
Myself John Sena, Basically i am a content writer. I have posted one article on my page but after three days somebody has removed that content. That guy says this content is for promotaional purpose. But It's not true. So please tell me how should create a page.


I'm looking at the page of a director and their filmography a number of items described as "documentary installation" which I assume are a form of ]. Do these belong on a filmography? The filmography also contains standard films. Also, this filmography contains a number of short films for which I can find few, if any sources. Do items on a filmography have to be notable? ] (]) 04:12, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
i will happy to help[REDACTED] in proving the contents. i hope you understood my problem.


:Can you give us a link to the page ? ] (]) 09:00, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
Thanks
::]. For full disclosure, the IP address that made the recent edits on that page are mine. I only started using this account recently. ] (]) 09:34, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
John Sena <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 06:04, 26 June 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:::I don't know if there are an official policy about cite films that aren't notable in the filmography of someone who is notable. ] (]) 10:17, 20 January 2025 (UTC)


IMO, filmography entries don't have to be notable. I've added shorts lacking articles just for completeness. I'm not so sure about documentary installations, whatever those are. ] (]) 04:24, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
:Yes, we understand your problem. Your problem is that you are here to promote a business, as you did with , and that is not what Misplaced Pages is for. You are not going to succeed. I advise you to give up. ] (]) 07:16, 26 June 2013 (UTC)
==redict ==
:We're all content writers. You should not be writing about your own business, or a business you are working for. That presents a clear ]. Maproom explained it perfectly. I'm only chiming in so that it's clear to you that promotion of any kind is unacceptable in the Misplaced Pages community. ] (]) 07:33, 26 June 2013 (UTC)
Popular paksitani drama ] has delated because of socks and redirect now drama has full sources, should i unredict or draft? by --] (]) 12:34, 20 January 2025 (UTC)


:Create draft first, and a reviewer will unredirect it once the draft is accepted into the mainspace. ] (]) 12:50, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
:: You not only promoted your business on your own page but also vandalised existing articles by adding spam links, e.g., , and several other edits. You are warned that if you continue in this way, your account will be permanently blocked from Misplaced Pages. <span style="font-family:'Candara',sans-serif;">] ]</span> 09:57, 26 June 2013 (UTC)


== Citing CVs? ==
== Help to check and finish the creation of a new template==
I am still trying to create a new template for ], the page is ]. One user help me a lot but still have some problems when trying to edit the subtitles, it does not appear like in the exemple. It's small details for sure just a question of brace or something like that!! If an expert could have a look on it to finish this nice template, please.
Thanks in advance for your contribution.
] (]) 09:24, 26 June 2013 (UTC)


For biographies of academics, is their CV considered sufficient to cite for things like editor positions or honors? ] (]) 12:51, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
This is my last message on the Help desk on the 24th of june:


:Per ], just because something is on their CV, it shouldn't necessarily be in the WP-article. See also ]. ] (]) 13:07, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
I'm trying to create As I am not an expert in this kind of creation on wiki, could anybody help me to make it works.
::This isn't my claim. My question is whether a CV can function as a citation for the kind of information that belongs in an article. ] (]) 13:21, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
Thanks for your help
:::Hello, @]. Non-independent sources may be cited for certain kinds of information - see ]. They do not contribute to establishing ], and the existence of a source is only one of the considerations which goes into decideing whether a matter should be mentioned in an article or not. ] (]) 15:23, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
] (]) 12:07, 24 June 2013 (UTC)
:::A cite to the website or other publication of the awarding body might be better. That provides a way for readers ro learn about the context of the award, which can be important because sometimes different awards have similar names for various reasons and a CV entry might not use a precise enough wording to prevent confusion. ] (]) 17:22, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
:I'll see what I can do. ] (]) 12:22, 24 June 2013 (UTC)
::{{replyto|Bastaco}} {{done}} hopefully. ] (]) 12:37, 24 June 2013 (UTC)
::{{replyto|Mdann52}} Great job, thank you for your help!! Just one detail about the presentation: still not have the comma between the terms in the subtitle. ] (]) 13:56, 24 June 2013 (UTC)
:::{{replyto|Bastaco}} as far as I can see, at ] (a random test page), everything appears as it seems. Can you link me to where it appears incorrectly? ] may also help. ] (]) 10:07, 26 June 2013 (UTC)
::{{replyto|Mdann52}} Thanks for your help, you were right about the fact of purging my page lol ] (]) 11:34, 26 June 2013 (UTC)


== Glenn Melvyn page == == Vandal templates on shared IPs ==


Hello, I have ] ] with {{tlx|uw-vandalism4}} after a recent ]. I noticed the talk page is flush with historical warnings, but it seems like users would start back from 1 each time. Am I using the template incorrectly (i.e. since 5 years have passed, just start back at 1)? I was under the impression we use the next template in the sequence from whatever is on the page already (assuming no intermediary intervention/discussion). Perhaps proxy accounts have special status? ] (]) 18:40, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
Glenn Melvyn


:Hello, @]. There's not much point in putting warnings on IP talk pages anyway, unless there is evidence that the same person is using that IP for a period. But I certainly don't think there's any point in putting a high-level warning, even if the previous warning was only a couple of weeks ago, because it's unlikely that the same person will see it. (Do IPs even get notified of messages on their talk pages? I don't know). ] (]) 19:31, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
Glenn Melvyn's daughter Janine Mackinlay would like to have a web page on this site with an information page about her father. Glenn Melvyn was a British actor who is credited on IMDb
::Thanks for reply. In future on IP talk pages lacking evidence of same person throughout, I will only increase vandal template warning if within the same month and I won't go higher than 3. (Template has been useful for me in past as quick check if other users have undone edits that didn't get marked 'Reverted' upon fix.) I took this case to ] as all edits appear consistently ]. ] (]) 20:53, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0578542/#Actor


== Name correction ==
A hugely influential but largely unknown writer and actor, he is also quoted in Ronnie Barkers autobiography “Ronnie Barker – The Authorised Biography” by Bob McCabe, it describes the early meeting of Glenn and Ronnie.
“A quick trawl through The Stage soon secured some stage management work at Frank Fortescue’s Famous Players, a rep company based in Bramhall, Cheshire. It was here that Barker was to meet one of the most influential men in his career. Glenn Melvyn was the company’s leading man and the man who Barker claims ‘was to teach me everything I ever learned about comedy’.
Glenn also taught Ronnie how to stutter and later in his career, Ronnie Barker would base his character Albert Awkright in “Open All Hours” on Glenn’s character Wally Binns from “The Love Match” and “Love and Kisses”.
They went on to write many scripts together and when presented with the BAFTA lifetime achievement award in 2007, Ronnie mentioned Glenn at the start of his acceptance speech, with a credit for giving him his first break and teaching him how to stutter.


Greetings everyone. How do I correct the name of a person on Misplaced Pages? I am able to edit the body but have not figured out how to change the main page name. Thank you ] (]) 19:33, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
I am helping to pur the page together but can't quite get to grips with how the references and links work, so the page gets removed as being unvalidated.


:Hello, @]. The direct answer to your question is by ] the article. But you should on no account be editing an article about yourself: the most you should do is make a suggestion for change. Please see ]. ] (]) 19:44, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
Any help please. Thanks
:You may request a page move at ]. Note that Misplaced Pages does not necessarily use legal or official names as article titles, but the most commonly used name, see ].
Keith on behalf of Janine (and Glenn) <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 09:50, 26 June 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:Please read ] before attempting to edit about yourself. ] (]) 19:46, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
::Thank you for the info! ] (]) 19:59, 20 January 2025 (UTC)


== how to check the status of a pending extended-confirmed-protected edit request ==
:I'm afraid that neither you nor Janine are advised to write this article, because your ] will make it difficult for you to write in the neutral way required. If, after reading the link I gave, you decide to try, then I advise reading ] for advice on how to go about it. --] (]) 12:30, 26 June 2013 (UTC)


Where do I go to check the status of a pending edit request for an extended-confirmed-protected page? ] (]) 21:26, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
:{{ec}}I've added a {{tlx|reflist}} template to make the references work properly, but I'm afraid with the citations provided, the article won't be acceptable for Misplaced Pages. IMDb is ], and neither are ]. McCabe's biography of Barker, if it contains some more information about Melvyn, would be a suitable source, but you'll need to locate and cite ] in order to show that Melvyn meets ]. If, as you say, he is "largely unknown", then it may not be possible to have an article about him here. ]&nbsp;]&zwj;] 12:35, 26 June 2013 (UTC)


:You just go back to the page you made the request on to see if it has been edited. ] (]) 21:37, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
:With the greatest respect to Janine and her late father, please bear in mind that ]. Also be clear that you understand that any article published about Glenn Melvyn could be edited by any other other user at any time; an article's creator has ] over the content. More help with referencing can be found at ]. - ]] 13:30, 26 June 2013 (UTC)
::Sorry, where do I find the backlog of protected edit requests to see where one is in the queue? ] (]) 22:01, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
:::See the list at ]. ] (]) 22:04, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
::::thanks ] (]) 22:08, 20 January 2025 (UTC)


= January 21 =
:Per our usual practice I have moved the user page content to a subpage at ].--] (]) 13:44, 26 June 2013 (UTC)
==]==
Reference number 191 is in red - I have got it all wrong and I get confused. Please repair the damage. I am sorry ] (]) 06:29, 21 January 2025 (UTC)


:{{u|Srbernadette}} Fixed, you had written the year in the access date as "20025". Respectfully, you make this specific error quite often; you probably just hit the zero twice by accident. When this happens the red message says "check date values in accces-date", to identify where exactly the issue is. ] (]) 07:08, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
== Article Rejection ==


:On the phenomenon of the frequent occurrence of specific kinds of error, {{U|Srbernadette}}: On 12 October, {{U|Tenryuu}} ] to you that "you should consider writing down what other editors have been saying so that you have a 'common mistakes made' note that you can reference to the side of whatever device you're using." If you didn't implement that then, perhaps you could implement it now. -- ] (]) 11:09, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
Hi,


== Whitespace on top of page ==
I'm writing an article on a business, Interim Partners, and my article was rejected because of 'bias'. I don't see how it is biased at all - I made sure to use facts, barely any adjectives and no promotion.


The page ] displays a line of whitespace on top of the article. Why is that there, and how can it be removed? ] (]) 08:16, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
One of Interim Partners' competitors, Michael Page, has a Misplaced Pages page: http://en.wikipedia.org/Michael_Page_International. I closely followed pages of Interim Partners' competitors to ensure that I made a correct Misplaced Pages page. In my opinion, Interim Partners' Misplaced Pages page is unbiased, and it is certainly a lot less biased than the Misplaced Pages page that Michael Page have.


:Fixed.--'''''] <sup>]</sup>''''' 08:21, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
I would appreciate it if you could take a second look at the Interim Partners article I am creating (http://en.wikipedia.org/User:AimeeTreasure/sandbox) and either elaborate on how exactly the page is biased or allow me to publish the page.


== phone keyboard constantly recentering the screen ==
I look forward to your reply.


I am trying to edit pages on my Samsung S22 but opening the keyboard will forcefully recenter the screen every couple seconds, making it impossible to see what I'm typing. Sometimes it closes the keyboard entirely.
Many thanks,


Aimée Treasure


This problem persists even if I use the "desktop site" option in mobile. I'm using Firefox.
:The reason your article was declined can be seen in the edit history - ''Declining submission: submission is written like an advertisement'' . Please read ]. You need to establish the company's notability in the article. At the moment your draft fails to do that and sections such as ''Corporate and Social Responsibility'' and ''Accreditation'' etc. make the draft look more like an advertisement for the company than an encyclopaedic article. As a comparison with the article you linked above (]) you'll see that in the lead of that article basic notability is established with the phrase ''is a constituent of the FTSE 250 Index''. ] (]) 12:19, 26 June 2013 (UTC)


Any solutions? ] (]) 12:17, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
:{{ec}} I've seen worse, to be honest - the text of the article needs a bit of tweaking, but generally isn't too bad. Problem is though, that none of the claims therein are ] by ], which is pretty much a deal-breaker for Misplaced Pages. The only source provided (the ''Sunday Times'' list) doesn't actually mention Interim Partners at all, and there's absolutely nothing in the page to suggest that the company meets ]. Before you even start addressing any issues of bias, you need to find ] which write about Interim Partners in some level of detail, and which verify all of the information in your draft article. Then we can talk about any minor language fixes that need doing. Without sources, the article isn't going to last long even if it's the most neutrally-phrased page on the project. ]&nbsp;]&zwj;] 12:23, 26 June 2013 (UTC)


:Not had this issue on my A15 (Chrome). Odd. Could you switch to ]? ''']]''' 14:41, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
:<small>(Edit Conflict x2)</small> Other issues i noticed:
:I have the same problem with Firefox while using other websites. I think it's Firefox's issue. ] (]) 15:19, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
*Your lede does not state very well what Interim Partners is. A lede paragraph should sum up informatively what the article is about and in an unbiased manner. See ].
:@], Using Chrome on Android and been through that, but now i am the boss (''feeling so''). Basically i avoid that by going top again. Ok, simply whenever i enter something, that text hide itself and next line appear at top most screen, at that moment i just scroll to top of the screen (''top of the section'') and then again scroll to that particular line, and guess what - no issue. try once.––]<sup>(])(])</sup> 17:01, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
*You appear to have proof of notability in how the company ranks, but nothing outside of that from other sources (Similar to what CaptRik said). See ].
*Your "Growth and Development" section contains links to other sites, which should not be there. Links to other sites should be either citations or fit into an ] section at the bottom of the article (if appropriate).
:Other than that i'd say you haven't done too bad considering your ], but you do need to rewrite it a bit more for an encyclopaedia, than an advertisement.
:These are just issues i noticed after a quick glance. Good luck ''']]</span> <sup>(])</sup>''' 12:25, 26 June 2013 (UTC)


== Category history ==
== Deletion of Article: Boris Bidjan Saberi ==


If you add a category to your watchlist, it notifies you when pages are added to or removed from that category. The category history (View History tab) does not show this information, however, as it only includes changes to the category page itself. How would I see the history of additions/removals for any category (regardless of whether it is on my watchlist)? Is it available? If a category suddenly got bigger or smaller, it would be useful to see which pages had been added or removed. --] (]) 17:30, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
Hello,
: ] is useful for this. ] ] 17:32, 21 January 2025 (UTC)


== Image ==
I am writing regarding my article for 'Boris Bidjan Saberi' which was deleted. Can you please guide me as to how I can retrieve that article to rework it to better fit the community guidelines? I do not have the original content any longer and retrieving that content would really help me a lot.


While visiting the page ], I noticed this image: . The source says "Facebook" but the link is not accessible: . The image caption states: "Teaser poster of This Must Be the Place"; but a reverse Google Image brings up Pinterest Paper Cuts of similar sayings: . I'm not sure how to put up an image for deletion; but I think this is not what it purports to be. ] (]) 23:24, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
Thanks in advance.


:Is there another, more stable source (there are usually those that hold images of film posters)? Generally, this would go to ] or ]. But preferably look for one that is ]. <span style="color:#7E790E;">2601AC47</span> (]<big>·</big>]<big>·</big>]) <span style="font-size:80%">Isn't a IP anon</span> 23:38, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
Zakirmaq <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 12:03, 26 June 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->


::OK. Thanks. Taking it to ]. This is not a poster for the film ("early" or otherwise). Obviously this was a hoax of some sorts. ] (]) 00:00, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
:There's not a lot there that could be salvaged, to be perfectly honest, but I'll email you a copy of the deleted article anyway. ]&nbsp;]&zwj;] 12:11, 26 June 2013 (UTC)


This was ''much'' harder than I expected. WP does ''not'' make it easy to simply place an image up for requested deletion! Yeesh! I placed the required template on the image page here: , but from there on it's just a big mess. As instructed: and then listed: ; but it does not seem to be correct. I have successfully placed several articles up for AfD but this one threw me. What did I do wrong? TIA. ] (]) 00:36, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
== Biased article - doesn't reflect the world we live in ==
:{{ping|Maineartists}} The file is uploaded at the English Misplaced Pages (because it's non-free) and not Commons so a deletion discussion should be here and not at Commons. ] (]) 00:51, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
::Maineartists, I suggest that you reverse your edits so far and follow the process at ]. ] (]) 01:06, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
:::Already done. I was only following the advice / directions given above. Guess I should have gone to FfD first. Thank you, ] for linking the process. I had no idea what "so a deletion discussion should be here" meant. Heading there now. This was a first for me. Now I know. ] (]) 01:13, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
::::{{ping|Maineartists}} it's confusing if you are not a copyright expert (neither am I). You are more likely to get specialist advice at ]. ] (]) 01:23, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
:::::Thanks. This one had nothing to do with copyright. The image was not what it purported it to be: . The uploader has a history of uploading questionable images to WP with numerous deletions and violations in their history; without any response on their Talk Page to notifications. The image in question has been removed from the article and successfully placed for FfD. Thanks again. ] (]) 01:31, 22 January 2025 (UTC)


::::::The nomination looks fine. Media Copyright Questions is {{tq|a place for help with image copyrights, tagging, non-free content, and related questions}} so I think this query would have been in scope. ] (]) 01:55, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
The page "Masturbation", which I cannot edit myself, is biased and the people who are opposing my changes, I believe do not share their opinions with the majority of Misplaced Pages writers/readers. I requested outside opinions but this request was removed, but I don't know why. So I ask people to look at the page, even if you wouldn't normally read such a page, and see how biased it is, and ask yourselves "does this bullsh*t really reflect the world I live in?" and then look on the discussion page to see my proposed changes, which are being opposed by a minority of people with faulty logic. There is something very wrong going on here.


= January 22 =
selected quote:


== Default alt text for image not appearing in article ==
" it is considered a normal part of healthy life today" with no reference. Opinion, and they will not remove it.


As you can see I added alt text to the structured data of https://commons.wikimedia.org/File:Greenhouse_gas_emission_and_absorption_by_Turkey.svg
-- No it is not. I do not believe it is entirely socially acceptable in any society, (apart from a few microcultural examples e.g. certain indigenous tribes) and in many conservative/religious societies (e.g. Islamic countries, many rural areas across the world) it is not acceptable at all. They are confusing the views of science and medicine (which does not 100% say it is fine, hence the use of terms like "excessive masturbation", "compulsive masturbation" in medical and psychological publications) with the views of society. I proposed then to split these views, but it was again opposed. They will not even allow mention that masturbation is illegal in public in most countries, apparently that is "not on topic". In some countries, you would face the death penalty for masturbating in public. The article talkes about events (presumably in Western cosmopolitan settings) where a group of perverted people are allowed to masturbate as part of a festival/event, called a "Masturbate-a-thon". I point out that these people would be stoned to death very quickly if they tried that perversion in many countries. Let's have a page that is not biased, is not a "how -to- masturbate" manual, and includes other balanced views.


But when I use
-- The requests I made to change the article and make it less biased were opposed by quoting some Misplaced Pages rules. I studied these rules in detail and in every case they are falsely applied to this scenario. I also found out that according to these rules, many, many issues involving content of the page which supports the overall biased view. The rules are being selectively applied by a minority to maintain a biased page which does not, I believe represent the views of all.
https://www.w3.org/WAI/test-evaluate/easy-checks/image-alt/
to check
::https://en.wikipedia.org/Greenhouse_gas_emissions_by_Turkey#Monitoring,_reporting_and_verification
I cannot see it.


This is the first time I tried to use default alt text so perhaps I have missed something? ] (]) 06:40, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
-- I am very disillusioned by this experience. I used to read Misplaced Pages with interest and admiration, but now everything I see will be suspect in my eyes. How do I know it is not the same scenario-- biased opinion rather than reality? <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 12:11, 26 June 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:I don't think you can add alt text to the image itself (i.e., on commons). Alt text is used in '''an article''' when you add the image. Otherwise all the different Wikipedias would be stuck with the same wording and language for the alt text. ] (]) 07:27, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
::See ] ] (]) 07:29, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
:::Also see ]. -- ] (]) 07:44, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
::@] Thanks for those links but I am still confused. I already have added English alt text to the image itself (i.e., on commons) - that is not a problem and as it is labelled as "English" I presume other language Wikipedias will not use it but could also add text in their own languages. You can see it on the image link above by clicking "structured data" and scrolling to the bottom of the structured data. My problem is that the text is not appearing when I use the image on Misplaced Pages. ] (]) 14:23, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
:::@]: The image used in ] is kept on this English wiki at ], '''not''' on Commons.
:::Regardless of where it is kept, the image in the article will only have alt text if an {{code|1=alt=}} has been included in its {{code|file}} statement. For the article concerned, there is no {{code|1=alt=}} parameter:
:::{{code|<nowiki>] can take out. There is some correlation with the ], such as a dip during the ].]]</nowiki>}}
:::You need to add an {{code|1=alt=}} parameter. You can refer to ] for an example.
:::The above will apply regardless of where the image is kept.
:::Note that the alt text should describe what the image is, not the graph's contents. So, for example, "{{xt|A graph showing the levels of greenhouse gas emissions and absorptions in Turkey from 1990 to 2022.}}". If the data shown by the graphs in the article is important to the article's readers, then separate tables of the data ought to be included the article, as stipulated by ]. ] (]) 14:47, 22 January 2025 (UTC)


== i want to post my content in draft ==
:I see you have discussed this on the article's talk page, which is the first step of Misplaced Pages's ]. This process page will tell you how to proceed when you cannot achieve consensus. --] (]) 12:43, 26 June 2013 (UTC)


I am planning to edit my Misplaced Pages content based on the guidelines, but I am unsure how to move it to the draft space. ] (]) 07:05, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
== Dissolving Question ==
:It can simply be moved to the draft space by any autoconfirmed user, which you are. See ], but if you mean your content in ], there's little point moving it to Draft. That draft has already been rejected by ], not just declined, and a rejected draft usually should not be resubmitted. See ] ] (]) 07:21, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
{{Archive top|User blocked as sockpuppet, feed them no more!--] (]) 13:50, 26 June 2013 (UTC)}}
:@] As you must know, since you Wikilinked it, there is an existing article at ]. If you have any content from your draft that is ] and relevant, you could add it to that article. Use your own words to paraphrase the sources you cite, not ]. ] (]) 12:01, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
If I can edit and contribute to Misplaced Pages, what can Misplaced Pages do for me ? <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 13:04, 26 June 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:"]" — '''''] ]''''' 13:13, 26 June 2013 (UTC)
{{Archive bottom}}


== Technological aspects of Misplaced Pages == == Inter-language Links in Coding for the German and French Misplaced Pages Severs. ==


I know how to write an inter-language link to produce a broken link in an English article to a page that does not exist on the English server, but does exist in a foreign language Misplaced Pages server:
I am interested in the techquatical aspects in Misplaced Pages, what can I do about this ? ] (]) 14:52, 26 June 2013 (UTC)
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<b>French:</b><nowiki>{{ill|Conann|lt=Conann|fr|Conann (film)}}</nowiki>, i.e. {{ill|Conann|lt=Conann|fr|Conann (film)}}
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<b>German:</b><nowiki>{{ill|Conann|lt=Meeples' Choice Award|de|Meeples' Choice Award}}</nowiki>, i.e. {{ill|Conann|lt=Meeples' Choice Award|de|Meeples' Choice Award}}
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However, I would like to know the reciprocal German and French coding to do the same thing, i.e. link to a Misplaced Pages article that does not exist on that respective language Misplaced Pages server, i.e. the French or German server, but does exist in the English server:
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<b>French:</b> ?<br>
<b>German:</b> ?
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Does anyone know if such coding exists and whether there are help pages on the French and German server for this coding? ] (]) 08:55, 22 January 2025 (UTC)


:{{ping|SMargan}} you can check the Wikidata item ]. ] exists, but no de equivalent. You could ask at ] whether they have anything similar. ] (]) 09:17, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
:Is this ]? ] (]) 15:07, 26 June 2013 (UTC)
::{{ping|SMargan}} Each Misplaced Pages language makes its own policies. The German Misplaced Pages has decided to not allow such links in articles. See ]. ] (]) 10:17, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
:::{{ping|TSventon}} ] (]) Thanks for the clarification! You have been a great help. I found this coding on the German server <nowiki>{{#interlanguagelink:en|Friedrich Schiller}}</nowiki>, however, it just seemed to produce no text at all. Now that you have told me that there is no comparative German coding, I will stop looking. ] (]) 11:41, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
::::{{ping|TSventon}} ] (]) Sorry to bother you again, but is there a Inter-language Link coding for the Spanish language server as well? ] (]) 11:41, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
:::::Hi, @]. The Wikidata item ] (which TSventon linked to) has an es-wiki link to ]. Whether or not it has the same functionality as {{tl|ill}} I don't know. ] (]) 11:54, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
:::::If you add <nowiki>{{#interlanguagelink:en|Friedrich Schiller}}</nowiki> it is the same as <nowiki>]</nowiki> and changes the en link under In anderen Sprachen to en:Friedrich Schiller. If you were allowed to link the article you would add a colon <nowiki>]</nowiki>. ] (]) 12:00, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
::::::{{ping|TSventon}} ] (]) - Thanks once again for your assistance! You have been a great help! ] (]) 13:14, 22 January 2025 (UTC)


== Adding my Wiki Page == == Request for Guidance on Article Review ==


Hello Team,
I'm a new user here, and this is probably a dumb question, but my article keeps getting rejected.
I am a professional drummer, and have played on several major label recordings over the past 5 years including Cee-Lo, Gnarls Barkley, and others.
I added my own "user" page to[REDACTED] and then linked to it from Cee-Lo's page, for instance. (Because my name already exists on his page, it just hadn't been linked to anywhere).


I have been submitting the article for review for the past three days, but it is still showing as a draft, with no violations indicated on the talk page. Following Misplaced Pages guidelines, I disclosed that this is a paid contribution and added the following statement to my user page:
Can anyone tell me if this is best/right way to add myself to Misplaced Pages? Why does it keep getting rejected?


''"This user, in accordance with the Wikimedia Foundation's Terms of Use, discloses that they have been paid by ZAPTA Technologies on behalf of Nasir Ali for their contributions to Misplaced Pages."''
Pages i've mentioned:
http://en.wikipedia.org/User:Bradhagen
http://en.wikipedia.org/Bright_Lights_Bigger_City
http://en.wikipedia.org/The_Lady_Killer_(album)


I have published this article without any charges. Could you please advise on the next steps?
Thanks for your help!


Best regards,
] (]) 14:52, 26 June 2013 (UTC)


Mohsin Ali (Taching1989) ] (]) 09:51, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
:I'm afraid there is no best way to add yourself to Misplaced Pages, because you are '''strongly''' discouraged from ever doing so: see ] for more information. On your user page ] you are welcome to share as much or as little about yourself ''as a Misplaced Pages editor'' that you wish to, but you should not attempt to write an article about yourself there or anywhere else. --] (]) 14:55, 26 June 2013 (UTC)


:@] I have added the template which will allow you to submit the draft for review. Before you do, find a better source for citation #1. You use ], which is deprecated (see the link). Are you sure your draft shows how the company meets our ]? ] (]) 11:48, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
:{{ec}} Well, for starters you are generally encouraged ''not'' to create an article about yourself due to ]. You sound ] enough, but your article would need citations from reliable sources to verify the content is true. ] is also a useful place for information, and i expect you to at least read ] for more advice in this area. Thanks ''']]</span> <sup>(])</sup>''' 15:05, 26 June 2013 (UTC)
::Thanks for guidance, should I remove Crunchbase link? ] (]) 11:53, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
::{{ec}} - Creating a page about yourself is discouraged and will most likely be deleted. The everyday rule of thumb in this situation is ''If a person, company or group meets the ] guidelines someone else will write about that subject.'' Please review ]. Cheers, <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS">] <small>(])</small></span> 15:14, 26 June 2013 (UTC)
:::Hello, @]. Without looking at the draft, I would reply Yes, you should remove the Crunchbase link, and any information which is cited only to that link (unless you can find a better source for that information). ] (]) 11:55, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
:::Sorry to pile on the bad news, but I've removed the link that you added to ]. We don't allow wikilinks to go from an article to a user page, except in very rare circumstances. -- <font style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:15px;">] </font> ] 18:43, 26 June 2013 (UTC)
::::Yes, I removed it. I am looking for more guidance to publish my article. ] (]) 11:56, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
::I have removed the link and submitted it for review. Kindly check if everything is completed. ] (]) 12:01, 22 January 2025 (UTC)


== Editing an image I created for the Portuguese Misplaced Pages on the English Misplaced Pages ==
::::The link didn't go to userspace, it was a red link to where that article would eventually be moved to (Bradley Hagen). See ] for basic information. Do you want to revert yourself for what was an unhelpful removal of a single red link or should i? Thanks ''']]</span> <sup>(])</sup>''' 19:43, 26 June 2013 (UTC)
Edição de uma imagem que eu criei para a[REDACTED] em português na[REDACTED] Inglesa


Eu criei e editei na pagina Terno Pitagórico da Misplaced Pages de Lingua Portuguesa uma imagem geométrica de minha autoria para a compreensão da minha edição "Dedução das equações algebrica do trio pitagórico a partir da geometria". Eu preciso fazer upload desta imagem para a edição na pagina Pythagorean Triple da Wikipédia de língua Inglesa, e tentei de varias formas e não consegui, por esse motivo não consegui minha edição.
::::...Actually i think i'm defending something else. I wikilinked Brad Hagen at ]. Apologies John, i thought that last post was to me. The timezone differences are messing my replies up (See conversation below for context). ''']]</span> <sup>(])</sup>''' 19:46, 26 June 2013 (UTC)
Quando fiz o upload da imagem na edição em Português eu coloquei como imagem livre para uso.
Aguardo uma orientação para eu poder fazer upload da imagem e conseguir a minha edição na Wikipédia Inglesa. ] (]) 11:58, 22 January 2025 (UTC)


Translation: Editing an image I created for the Portuguese Misplaced Pages on the English Misplaced Pages
::::: No problem. Yes, I didn't (and wouldn't) touch your edit. Personally I tend to be slow in creating red links to people whose notability I'm unsure of, but it's a matter of individual taste, I think. And I could have been clearer, I guess, by using {{tl|replyto}}; I missed the possibility of ambiguity in who my comment was directed to. -- <font style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:15px;">] </font> ] 02:11, 27 June 2013 (UTC)


I created and edited on the ] (Pythagorean Triad) page of the Portuguese Language Misplaced Pages a geometric image of my own for the understanding of my edition "Deduction of the algebraic equations of the Pythagorean trio from geometry". I need to upload this image for editing on the Pythagorean Triple page of the English Misplaced Pages, and I have tried in several ways and have not been able to, for this reason I have not been able to edit it. When I uploaded the image in the Portuguese edition I put it as a free image for use. I'm waiting for guidance so I can upload the image and get my edit on the English Misplaced Pages. (via Google translate) ] (]) 12:06, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
::::::I'm using GMT so Misplaced Pages is showing everything one hour off, which is causing me issues. I've already warned someone for vandalism ''after'' someone else already did. You would think Misplaced Pages would have something as simple as time zones sorted before pursuing notifications and cosmetic changes... Thanks ''']]</span> <sup>(])</sup>''' 10:56, 27 June 2013 (UTC)


:@] Please use English when posing a question here. The file you wish to use appears to be ], which is on Commons and can therefore be incorporated into articles on en:Misplaced Pages as explained at ]. However, I suspect that its use will be controversial, so you should probably discuss this on the article's Talk Page at ]. ] (]) 12:16, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
==Why has my time zone changed?==
For some reason i am now seeing edits i make appear 1 hour behind. I am still set to London time but it is displaying my edits 1 hour behind. This must be a bug as it did not do this recently. Anyone know more? Thanks ''']]</span> <sup>(])</sup>''' 15:44, 26 June 2013 (UTC)
:Misplaced Pages uses ] - due to it being BST atm, all edits appear 1 hour behind - they will go in sync when you go back to GMT. ] (]) 15:47, 26 June 2013 (UTC)


==How unredict==
::I'm pretty ignorant of things like this to be honest. I do not know anything about UTC or BST at all. Do you know when things will go back to "normal" or do i have to do something to fix it? Thanks ''']]</span> <sup>(])</sup>''' 15:52, 26 June 2013 (UTC)
few weeks i made draft of Aye Ishq-e-Junoon by added soruces and summit for review but CNMall41 rejected my draft twice and i keep and rediting add soruces for series which CNMall41 think i was one of socks, i was fifteen year veteran joined Misplaced Pages and when moved ] to main page, there was re-editing by someone and i had noticed my article was reviwed by bot and cnmail41 moved to rediect , i had grammar issues by --] (]) 12:12, 22 January 2025 (UTC)


:@] Your draft was examined by the experienced reviewer ], who noted that it used unreliable sources. It has been redirected to a related article. CNMall41 may wish to comment further. ] (]) 12:37, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
:::You can set your time zone at ]. It doesn't affect times in signatures but for those you can try "Change UTC-based times and dates, such as those used in signatures, to be relative to local time" at ]. ] (]) 16:01, 26 June 2013 (UTC)
::should i add relibale sources ? ] (]) 12:46, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
:::The edit summary at ] was {{tq|NEWSORGINDIA and other unreliable sources. Redirecting as an alternative to deletion but will take to AfD should there be an objection}}. Basically, the opinion was that this was not a notable topic. You can either revert the redirection and add sources (but make sure they are reliable), or do nothing.
:::Be aware if the sourcing still doesn't meet GNG it'll likely go through AfD. '''] <sup>(] • ])</sup>''' 13:02, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
:To be clear, you DO have a conflict of interest, likely UPE and in the least are MEAT. Don't expect to be rewarded for such. --] (]) 18:18, 22 January 2025 (UTC)


== Deleting my contributions ==
::::Or you can wait until 27 October, when British Summer Time ends, and the UK goes back to Greenwich Mean Time. For almost all practical purposes GMT = UTC, so you are on UTC during the winter, but an hour ahead during the summer. Misplaced Pages uses UTC, as the local dates and times of editors around the world can be up to 26 hours apart (26, not 24, see ] for the explanation) - ] (]) 16:29, 26 June 2013 (UTC)
How do I go about deleting all my contributions in wikipedia? ] (]) 18:02, 22 January 2025 (UTC)


:@] You can ] the contributions you have made but they will not be deleted from the edit history of any article and may be restored by other editors. When you add any content to Misplaced Pages, you irrevocably license it CC BY SA 4.0, as it says when you publish/save any edit. ] (]) 18:14, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
::::My time zone is set and it displays the right time. But when i sign i see everything 1 hour behind and it's irritating as it makes following posts a little more difficult (for a dyslexic). Thanks ''']]</span> <sup>(])</sup>''' 19:40, 26 June 2013 (UTC)
:Your contributions cannot be deleted, but if referring to vanishing, ] for how to properly do that. We’re sorry if there are any complications you’ve had here. <span style="color:#7E790E;">2601AC47</span> (]<big>·</big>]<big>·</big>]) <span style="font-size:80%">Isn't a IP anon</span> 18:15, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
:@] Furthermore, every time you edited Misplaced Pages you were clearly told that you {{tq|agree to irrevocably release your text under the CC BY-SA 4.0 License and GFDL}}. ]|] 09:56, 23 January 2025 (UTC)


::If you can explain why a particular contribution is not correct or inappropriate, please do so on the article's talk page, citing any relevant sources, and the material will be deleted. However, if the contribution is useful and encyclopedic, it will be retained in the article, because our contributions are not "ours", they are part of the free content on Misplaced Pages. -- ] (]) 15:21, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
== New editor help? ==


== Creating an article ==
I am not a new editor, and I am also not good at talking to individuals on their talk page. However, I frequently see new editors bombarded with "canned" messages that take the "bombarder" seconds to post, but must totally discourage the new editor. Any advice to such new editors? Thanks in advance, X] (]) 15:45, 26 June 2013 (UTC)
:The ''intention'' of these canned messages is not to discourage the newcomer. However I agree that it is the likely effect. My advice to new editors is to start very cautiously, fixing typos and suchlike until they feel more confident, so as not to attract the attention of the people who post these patronising messages. ] (]) 16:47, 26 June 2013 (UTC)
::Ermm, '''read''' those messages? ] (]) 19:45, 26 June 2013 (UTC)


Dear Misplaced Pages:
== Update organization logo ==
I'm the librarian for Waterford High School (CT). The Athletic Director put together a history of the athletics program from when the school opened in 1956 to the present day. I foolishly (bravely?) suggested I would make a Misplaced Pages page out of the information and link it to the school's page. And now, of course, I have no idea what I am doing. Is there a primer that could walk me through the process? Should I find a copy of Misplaced Pages for Dummies? Any help would be appreciated. Thank you, Matt Cadorette, Librarian, Waterford High School Waterford, CT ] (]) 18:22, 22 January 2025 (UTC)


:Hello, @], and welcome to the Teahouse.
I need to update an outdated logo on this page: http://en.wikipedia.org/File:Camh_logo_one.png#filelinks but it says that I cannot update or override the file. What is the process for updating logos? <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 16:23, 26 June 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:In addition to the good advice given by 2601, {{User:ColinFine/PractiseFirst}} ] (]) 21:53, 22 January 2025 (UTC)


{{Quote box
:It requires an ] account. You can make a request at ] but if you post a link to the current logo here then we can probably do it. ] (]) 16:40, 26 June 2013 (UTC)
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:Before creating an article, please ] Misplaced Pages first to make sure that an article does not ''already exist'' on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines with which all articles should comply. As Misplaced Pages is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain ], must be written from a ], should ] ] which ] their content and must not contain ].
:Articles must also demonstrate the ] of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for ], ], ] and ] and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our ] strongly recommends against ''you'' creating the article.
:If you still think an article is appropriate, see ]. You might also look at ] for guidance, and please consider taking a tour through the ] so that you know how to properly format the article before creation. An ] is also available to walk you through creating an article. <span style="color:#7E790E;">2601AC47</span> (]<big>·</big>]<big>·</big>]) <span style="font-size:80%">Isn't a IP anon</span> 18:25, 22 January 2025 (UTC)


= January 23 =
== Article re: operation reentry Miami beach fl ==


== Category:Mass murderers ==
My name is Maurice Soniat,
And having come across this article I am a bit concerned with the reference to my involvement with Scientology.
Please remove this reference. You can contact me at ph:{{redacted}}
Thank You,
Maurice. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 17:14, 26 June 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->


I was going to post at ], but there was a note recommending I post here instead. The ] doesn't seem to have a clear inclusion criteria. Is it all individuals who have killed 3 or more people without a cooling off period? Do they need to have been convicted in court for murder? Is it mainly for mass shooting/mass stabbing, or do bombings count? Do they need to have committed the act themselves, or can they be included if they ordered or masterminded the killings? ''']''' <sub>(Please ] on reply)</sub> 04:39, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
:I have removed the Scientology reference as a BLP violation as it has no source.--] (]) 17:20, 26 June 2013 (UTC)


:{{ping | User talk:Vice regent}} I guess it's all of them though I'm not sure. {{smiley|sad}} Gnu779 (]) 12:45, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
== Four men -1st Paratroop Arnhem - ==
::@] what is the best place to have this discussion? ''']''' <sub>(Please ] on reply)</sub> 12:59, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
:::Hello, @]. The talk page of one of the WikiProjects linked on that Category talk page: probably ], I would have thought. ] (]) 13:52, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
::::Thanks ''']''' <sub>(Please ] on reply)</sub> 13:55, 23 January 2025 (UTC)


== what ==


What if blocked IPs edit with a proxy? Is it okay if they only do good edits? {{smiley|sad}} Gnu779 (]) 12:43, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
How can I obtain a high res image of this photograph? my Great Grandfather is in it? <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 20:50, 26 June 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->


:@] Does ] answer your question? ]|] 13:13, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
:You're referring to ], yes? (It currently appears in four different Misplaced Pages articles.)

:If you click on that picture (in any article), or on the link, you'll go to , and you can see the link for full-size version of the photo. Click on that, and they you can download it using your browser (typically, right-click, "Save image as"). -- <font style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:15px;">] </font> ] 21:11, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

:For this particular image you ''may'' be able to obtain a higher-resolution version via the , searching for their catalogue number BU 1167 as shown on the image ]. -- ] (]) 21:19, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

:The uploader got it from http://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/205192043 where it says you can buy a print. Their highest online resolution http://media.iwm.org.uk/iwm/mediaLib/166/media-166952/large.jpg?action=d&cat=photographs is the exact file uploaded here. I don't know whether any of the print versions have higher quality. ] (]) 21:23, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

== Interlanguage links ==

Hi,
The English wp version of ] is coupled on Wikidata to Q3702043 with the Spanish and Italian versions, while all of the other language[REDACTED] articles are coupled to Q18983. I have little (or indeed no) understanding of how wikidata works, so how can the two be combined into one so that all of the interlanguage links show up correctly on all the articles (presumably that's what "right" would look like)? Thanks ]_] 22:11, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

:I'm no expert on Wikidata conflicts but the challenge with ] and ] is that Spanish and Italian have separate articles about the Flag of Pennsylvania and the Coat of arms of Pennsylvania, so there has to be separate Wikidata entries for the flag and for the coat of arms. The English article covers both. All the other languages appear to only have an article about the flag, at least judged by the article title – I haven't examined whether the articles also mention the coat of arms. I don't know whether there is a better solution than choosing one of the two for the English article. It's currently under Coat of arms. ] (]) 22:44, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

::Ah, that makes some sense. Well done for spotting that. The query came about because another editor deleted the old style interlanguage list and I reinstated it because otherwise all that was left were It and Es links. I guess until some more permanent resolution is reached that's how it should stay. Thanks again. ]_] 23:32, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

:Yes, if the two items in Wikidata are really the same, then they can be merged, and there's a gadget available in Wikidata for doing the merge. But if they are not quite the same (for example, one is a subset of the other) then they must be separate in Wikidata.
:In fact, in this case it's even more complicated, because the Spanish and Italian articles are the coat of arms, most of the articles are to the flag, and only the English appears to be both, so I've created a third item ], and made that to link to the English article. Unfortunately, though this is right, it is even more unhelpful for the purpose of interlanguage links. What I have done is to link these three together in Wikidata with the ] ], but I don't think there is any way that that can be reflected in the interlanguage links. --] (]) 14:47, 27 June 2013 (UTC)
::Addition: ] explains that you can still use the old-fashioned direct link ("local links") to override the Wikidata ones. --] (]) 14:56, 27 June 2013 (UTC)

==Brewery==

I tried to start a new entry for a local small town brewery called "The Damascus Brewery" and it does not show up. The help desk people in the chat room for[REDACTED] said that they could see it and that it was all set to be reviewed but now I don't see it as ever being created, denied, or anything. Does its entry still exist? Do I need to go through the process of writing the article again? thanks <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 22:58, 26 June 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:I'm looking into it, ]. ] (]) 23:29, 26 June 2013 (UTC)
:You can see your contributions ]. Your only contribution under this account is to the Help Desk. Have you edited under any other accounts? ] (]) 23:33, 26 June 2013 (UTC)
::The page in question is ].--] (])
:Hey Adam, you wouldn't happen to be the Adam Woodson mentioned in the article, would you? If so, I'd like to dissuade you from editing further, because you could have a ]. Misplaced Pages isn't a vanity site or the Yellow Pages. If the brewery is notable, then it should have coverage from sources independent of itself. If it's (as you said) just a "local small town brewery", it's possible that it isn't notable enough for inclusion. If you can find ] that establish its notability, then the article could pass. Until then, it'll just keep getting deleted for being ]. And if you're not the same Adam, ignore everything I just said, except for the parts about bringing in reliable sources independent of the subject. We still need that. ] (]) 03:50, 27 June 2013 (UTC)

== Where did my article go ==

I submitted an article for publication, it got rejected and deleted. Now nothing is in my sandbox, and I can't find my source file anywhere. I'd like to edit the page and try again, but I don't want to start from scratch.

-James <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 23:05, 26 June 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:I asked an administrator to view the deleted contributions for ]. Your sandbox was deleted under ] as a blatant hoax. If you have an explanation for it, feel free to explain here and an admin can undelete it if it merits it. ] (]) 23:34, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

:(edit conflict) ] was appropriately deleted per ] as a blatant hoax. The alleged topic has zero Google hits. Please don't waste our time with made up things. ] (]) 23:37, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

= June 27 =

== need a change to the Jenna marbles page ==

Hi my name is Deborah Mourey.. I am Jenna Mourey (Marbles) mom.

On her page... http://en.wikipedia.org/Jenna_Marbles

it reads that Sarah Penna is her agent... Sarah hasn't been her agent for quite some time. I just signed up for an account but since it's a semi protected page.. I can't change it right now.

I am acting as her primary contact; what's interesting is that I think I used to be listed on her page as her parent with a link to my website and the agent wasn't listed there at all and now it's changed back to the way the page was probably 2 years ago. So any help you can give me to remove Sarah's name and replace it with mine would be greatly appreciated. Best Deborah Mourey <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 02:00, 27 June 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:Hello, ma'am. I don't question your veracity, but Misplaced Pages policy prefers that information like that be ]. Since it's a fairly straight-forward, low-profile bit of data, if she were to mention you as her agent in the contact/booking section of her website/vlog, or otherwise publicly ascribe to you the title of "agent", I'd imagine that wouldn't bump too hard against our sourcing guidelines. In the interim, I'll delete Sarah Penna's mention as it too is unsourced. The double-edge sword swings in your favor! (half way...) Also, since you are her mother, and ostensibly her booking agent, you might want to review our policies about ]. Your best bet, should you wish to influence edits on her article is to either learn how to make edit requests via the article's talk page, or come to the help desk with good citations, and we can likely help out. ] (]) 03:32, 27 June 2013 (UTC)
::{{Fixed}} Removed Sarah Penna as agent. -- ] (]) 03:32, 27 June 2013 (UTC)

::The information was added by , on May 21. I'm going to ask the editor who added it why he did so. -- <font style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:15px;">] </font> ] 03:19, 27 June 2013 (UTC)

:::Even though it's coded in the ibox template, I don't think "agent" is an appropriate parameter - seems spammy to me.--] (]) 15:40, 27 June 2013 (UTC)

== Link shortening? ==

.

I have created a template from the basis of the <nowiki>{{welcome}}</nowiki> template that includes a paragraph asking users with non-latin character usernames to check out ]. At the bottom of the template I have included google translate links that translates the contents of the template into every non-Latin character language the google translate service currently provides. I have to use bit.ly as a link shortener for these links, because the direct google translate links cannot be posted, as they contain <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> and consequently mess up the formatting of the template.

The template is located ]; To see how it looks with the translation links, please see screenshot .

For example, is a screenshot of the first link, which is the translation for Arabic-speaking users. You can see from the highlighted URL the 4 tildes which prevent the posting of the orginal, google-translate link due to formatting issues. You cannot wrap nowiki tags around them to solve this because doing that renders the link useless (404 error)

I believe the addition of these translation links to the template would prove invaluable. It is unfortunate that the direct google translate links cannot be used due to the URL problem and the link shortener bit.ly must be used, but I can't think of another solution. However, in no circumstances will link-shortening links be whitelisted by the external link spam filter so I cannot post the template properly.

Is there anything else I could do to make them work?

Cheers,

] (]) 03:16, 27 June 2013 (UTC)

:Good question, probably asked at the wrong place (most editors here are generalists). I suggest either ] (despite the name, it's a place to get advice) or ] - but not both at the same time. -- <font style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:15px;">] </font> ] 06:07, 27 June 2013 (UTC)

:You could try <code><nowiki>{{urlencode:{{<includeonly>safesubst:</includeonly>REVISIONUSER}} ~~<includeonly></includeonly>~~<includeonly></includeonly>~}}</nowiki></code>, which should encode the user name and timestamp in the URL in a form that Google Translate will understand: {{urlencode:John of Reading 07:24, 27 June 2013 (UTC)}}

:But including 20 or so Google Translate URLs will make the template very long. How about a list of links to subpages of the template itself, such as ], which could contain a translation of the text with proper clickable wikilinks? -- ] (]) 07:24, 27 June 2013 (UTC)

::Thanks, both of you. John (of Reading :) ) that's an excellent idea, I'll get right onto it. ] (]) 14:36, 27 June 2013 (UTC)

== Does not save ==

Good evening - I have tried over 10 times now to add to the Laguna Beach page the annual event in October and it never saves - please advise thank you xoxo <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 04:01, 27 June 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:According to your contributions page, this is your first edit. Did you try to add that info before you made your account? (Not that there's any problem with that.). ] (]) 04:05, 27 June 2013 (UTC)

: The content about LPAPA on ] was moved into the "Annual Cultural Events" section. If you represent LPAPA please read the ] guidelines. Also, accounts can't be shared, so be careful of that too. ] (]) 05:07, 27 June 2013 (UTC)

::The useraccount has been blocked (group name, advertising). -- <font style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:15px;">] </font> ] 06:09, 27 June 2013 (UTC)

== 'Popular Alm' ==
{{la|Popular Alm}}

I was reading your article on the great harness horse "Popular Alm' and noticed that your list of owners was incorrect. I know this because my wife's Uncle - Jack Taggart was an owner and he was not amongst your listed owners. I have since been in touch with Harness Victoria and they have confirmed that Jack Taggart was indeed an owner during his racing career. I believe that the owners were V Knight, J Taggart and the "Sun Group".

Doug Maxwell <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 05:36, 27 June 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:Hi, while we would like to take your word for it, and we have no specific reason to disbelieve you, Misplaced Pages policies ask that data be shored up with ]. So if you can cite articles online, or find other articles to support the changes you are proposing, you can either make the changes yourself (with citations), or submit your sources again to the help desk and we'll be happy to help. ] (]) 06:20, 27 June 2013 (UTC)

== Graph edit ==

I'm a ne user in Misplaced Pages and I want to edit an existing graph, but when I edit the post that the graph is in, it's just not there, like it's hidden.
How can I edit the graph? <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 07:47, 27 June 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:What graph in what article? ] (]) 08:40, 27 June 2013 (UTC)

:Without knowing what page you are here about, I suspect that what you are seeing in the section is either the display of a template, or a section of another page in include only tags. I'll explain the first only, because the latter is rarer. See ] to learn about templates. In short, if you are seeing in the section you are trying to edit something like <nowiki>{{Name}}</nowiki>, then copy the name, go to Misplaced Pages's search field and type {{xt|Template:Name}} and then you should see the text that is displaying (being ''transcluded'') in the article. From there you can edit it but be wary of changing any code therein you don't understand.--] (]) 12:46, 27 June 2013 (UTC)

== Article has been delete by mistake ==

Hi,

I had created an article about Afdesta international festival but it has been deleted surprisingly. I see the reason is advertisement but i cant determine how writing about a non-commercial festival could be type of advertisement ?

I want my article back !
]

Thanks<small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) </span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned -->

:A subject doesn't have to "commercial" for the article about it to be promotional. Anything can be promoted/advertised. You can ask the admin who deleted it ], to undeleted it to your sandbox where you will have to fix the problems before returning it to mainspace. You are also welcome to use the ] process where you will receive guidance until it is an acceptable article. ] (]) 09:11, 27 June 2013 (UTC)
*Pretty much what Dodger67 said. I don't mind letting you userfy it, but the other big issue is that I don't see where the event has really received any coverage in reliable sources (]) such as newspapers and the like. I see plenty of ] sources, but no actual coverage that would give notability as far as Misplaced Pages is considered. All articles have to have established notability. You can work on a userpage copy, but you wouldn't be able to move it to the mainspace until it meets notability guidelines. Let me know on my talk page if you're interested in a userpage copy. ]] 09:15, 27 June 2013 (UTC)

== Crashing columns ==

The columns in the article ] run into each other, making them difficult to read. I've tried reducing their width to 3 x 30% and inserting 2 x 5% blank columns between, which spaces the first two columns but breaks the format of the third - how can the columns be spaced apart? - ] (]) 09:08, 27 June 2013 (UTC)
:I have reformatted the table in a more standard way - will this do? I note that each entry includes a pipe symbol, possibly left over from when the list was a Misplaced Pages-style table. Maybe these could be deleted. ] (]) 10:59, 27 June 2013 (UTC)
::Thanks, it is certainly more readable - albeit that the columns are different widths - I'll remove the pipes - ] (]) 11:12, 27 June 2013 (UTC)
:::Maybe you could also leave out the dates of birth and death, as these are easily available from the linked Misplaced Pages pages. ] (]) 11:42, 27 June 2013 (UTC)

== Dalai Lama ==

Sir,
I'm a regular[REDACTED] user and I also use to contribute articles on Wiki. The worst mistake I have ever seen on Misplaced Pages is the nationality of HH the Dalai Lama. Please change HH the Dalai Lama's nationality from Chinese to Tibetan.
This is not only politically important but also sentiments of millions of people.
Thank you!
Eagerly waiting for your correction......... <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 12:29, 27 June 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:Where does Misplaced Pages say the nationality is Chinese? I cannot find it in ] or ] but he is mentioned in hundreds of other articles. ] (]) 12:50, 27 June 2013 (UTC)
::He was born in ] in 1938. The one article I looked has his birthplace as China. The ] article states "...however, most of the communities of the rural areas of Amdo and Kham remained under their own local, Tibetan lay and monastic leaders into the 1950s." See also: ] --] (]) 16:08, 27 June 2013 (UTC)

== Company Name ==

Our company name is incorrectly displayed on Misplaced Pages. How can we change this? <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 15:58, 27 June 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:Three easy steps: 1. Tell us what article this is about. 2. Tell us what the correct name is. 3. Provide us with acceptable proof of the correct name. ] (]) 16:08, 27 June 2013 (UTC)
::Agreeing with what Dodger67, note that the titles of articles are not always chosen by their "official" name, but by what is commonly used to refer to the them in ]. Also, we normally do not include corporate status indicators such as "Inc.", Corp. Ltd. etc. Please see ] and ]. Best regards--] (]) 18:18, 27 June 2013 (UTC)

== Added Edit on my Article for Creation is not on main article page. ==

Hello, I have just completed my article for Creation, Alfred Herbert Richardson. I have inserted a short paragraph into the Edit page, as normal, but it doesn't show up in the final whole document page. The added wordage is included in 'Show Changes' in the main article. What, if anything, do I do please ?
] (]) 19:26, 27 June 2013 (UTC)

19.47hours. I have just discovered my <nowiki><ref></nowiki> and <nowiki></ref></nowiki> was misprinted by me. So the problem is solved. (!) <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 19:50, 27 June 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

==Text too small==
The text used in articles and the watchlist is too small for me to read easily. If I use Firefox, I can choose to enlarge the page with the browser controls and Firefox will remember to do that just for Misplaced Pages. But Internet Explorer will apply the setting to all pages, which I don't want. Is there a way to make Internet Explorer only enlarge Misplaced Pages? Alternatively, is there something I can put in my profile or some other weird hidden location to make the text larger? ] (]) 20:54, 27 June 2013 (UTC)
:Misplaced Pages is all about accessibility, so it surprises me there's no text size setting. You can try adding the following text to ]:
<pre>
#mw-content-text {
font-size:1.2em !important;
}
</pre>
:Replace <code>1.2</code> with however large you'd like the text (for example, <code>1.3</code> or <code>1.4</code> or <code>1.5</code>, etc.) ] (]) 23:22, 27 June 2013 (UTC)

::Thanks, that did it. ] (]) 04:03, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

== A template for real world references to[REDACTED] articles? ==

I vaguely remember some sort of tag used on talk pages to indicate that an article has been mentioned in the real world? I've come across a reference to the article ] in the 2010 judgment of the ] in ''SAS v World Programming Limited'': , at paragraph 56. Is there such a template? Help appreciated! Many thanks in advance! --] (]) 21:01, 27 June 2013 (UTC)
:{{tl|Press}} or {{tl|Notable citation}}, perhaps. Neither seem quite suitable for a court case. -- ] (]) 21:23, 27 June 2013 (UTC)
::I don't think there is a template, but there is a list at ]. --<span style="color:Turquoise">''''' &nbsp;]'''''<sup>]</sup></span> 01:01, 28 June 2013 (UTC)
::: Thanks both, looks like it should go into the latter...--] (]) 08:27, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

== Title of page ==

I created the user name CogswellEntrepreneur but I am trying to create an article on Black Collar Entrepreneurs. I would like the title to be Black Collar Entrepreneurs. Currently the user name is what is showing. How do I make that change? <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 21:52, 27 June 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:I wouldn't bother - your article won't pass our ] guidelines. We don't have articles on non-notable phrases, whether trademarked or otherwise. And by the way, read the ] - user names which purport to represent organisations are not permitted. ] (]) 22:07, 27 June 2013 (UTC)

::I thought ] was being a bit harsh there – until I read your draft article. ] (]) 22:30, 27 June 2013 (UTC)
:::I know: even among spammers, that was one of the most contemptibly vile pieces of promotional dung I've ever had the misfortune to step in. --] &#x007C; ] 14:53, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

== One baby, two biological fathers ==

Is ] a hoax article? It bases its notability on the claim that one child can have two biological fathers, but then downplays that assertion by calling it a "concept" in the second and third sentences. And look at the horrendous sourcing for the article. If my instincts are correct on this, can someone please take steps to have the article deleted? --] (]) 23:50, 27 June 2013 (UTC)
:I've deleted the word "biological" from the article, because the examples from folklore appear to be non-biological fatherhood. It is not a hoax article. It has been here since 2007. What is wrong with the sourcing, anyway? If you don't like the article, improve it, or comment on the talk page. ] (]) 23:57, 27 June 2013 (UTC)

::It is worth noting that in some 'western' societies, common law asserts '], which may make a man the legal father of his wife's child, even if he isn't the biological parent. I'll check the sources though, and see if the article needs further clarification. ] (]) 00:03, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

:::Robert, your removal of the word "biological" eliminates the article's claim of notability, which is that one child can have two biological fathers. Obviously, though, your removal of that key word indicates your agreement that the article's claim of one child, two biological fathers is completely unsubstantiated. There are zero reliable sources that verify that claim. You also asked me what's wrong with the sourcing. Well, there are just three sources. The first is , which says nothing about one baby, two biological fathers. The second is simply the name of a book, and the cite doesn't give ''any'' detailed information about where the information can be found that supposedly verifies the content in the article. The third is to some woman's personal blog (and of course says nothing about a child having two biological fathers). Do you consider this reliable sourcing? And why, as you suggested, would I try to improve an article where there are no reliable sources to verify its claim of notability? Thanks Andy for your input, but of course presumption of paternity is a completely different issue. It's simply a legal determination about which one man is presumed to be the father of a child. But thanks for looking into it. Anyway, ''if'' the claim being made is that partible paternity is basically a concept associated with shared parenting, then the article should be clearly presented that way ''and'' include solid, reliable sources to verify all of its content. Thanks. --] (]) 00:40, 28 June 2013 (UTC)
{{od}}
I've just researched the history of the article and (five years after the article was created) that changed the entire direction of the article! Look at the changes made to the opening paragraph, and of course read the edit summary. A night and day difference in the definition of partible paternity from the . --] (]) 00:59, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

And for the record, although the article has indeed been around for almost eight years, it's only had since then. In fact, it went about two and a half years with no edits at all. So it's an article that's essentially been hidden far below the radar. --] (]) 01:01, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

:It seems the article needs looking into properly - thanks for bringing it to our attention. As for whether some societies have believed (or even still do) that having two fathers is ''biologically'' possible, I suspect that the answer may well depend on what is meant by 'biology' in the context - and as my studies in anthropology remind me, such questions are seldom easy to answer - or perhaps best not actually answered at all, if one has to shoehorn another culture's concepts into our own to do so. ] (]) 01:13, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

::You're very welcome, Andy. Thanks for the friendly assistance and additional information! --] (]) 01:15, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

:::Anthropology to the rescue: ''"...among the Mehinaku of Brazil, speakers of a language in the Arawak family, Thomas Gregor found two theories of conception: “Both theories assert that one sexual act is insufficient to conceive a child. Rather, the infant is formed through repeated acts of intercourse. Since all but three of the village women are involved in extramarital affairs, the semen of the mother’s husband may form only a portion of the infant.... Joint paternity is further recognized at birth when the putative fathers of the baby honor attenuated versions of the couvade and acceptsome of the obligations of in-laws when the child grows up and gets married"'' ] (]) 01:29, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

:::On the other hand: . ] (]) 01:33, 28 June 2013 (UTC)
*It's a thing in anthropology. Well a concept at least. (Shapiro is usually more of a sociobiological culture warrior than an ethnographer, but I haven't reviewed his argument here) I've actually read that in cats different kittens in the same litter may have different genitors.] 01:34, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

::::You guys intrigue me with your research and knowledge on this topic, especially Andy's enthusiasm. Haha. All I know is that the article needs serious improvement, so thanks to Robert for adding the rewrite template. I'm really glad that the article at least has eyes on it now. :) --] (]) 02:17, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

:And then of course there is reported by the Beeb.--] (]) 12:47, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

::Maunus has now updated the article - it seems (no surprise) that there are still answered questions regarding the matter. ] (])

= June 28 =

== Need Assistance ==

I would like assistance in deleting the duplicate edits. I tried undoing them but I just keep getting more history.
]
Thank you. ] (]) 01:25, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

:Hi Heditor. You keep in the external links section. My head is spinning from all the back and forth. Haha. What is it that you would like to do? --] (]) 01:29, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

::I have it removed now. Was just experimenting to see if I could erase the history. Guess it's not possible. Thanks for responding. :)

:::No, you cannot erase the history. Only admins can , and it can only be done under very limited circumstances. --] (]) 01:38, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

:::Btw, I should have addressed why you kept adding to the history instead of reducing it. Every time you click the "undo" link next to an edit on the history page, it's simply removing (reverting) the changes made by that editor (even if you're reverting yourself). So every time you reverted yourself, that counted as an edit. ;) --] (]) 01:51, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

== Change title ==

Hello. I was wondering if there is a way to change the title of "]" to "]". I was going to use the "move" button but I am not sure if I understood completely how to do it and if it's the right way. Plus, while I was trying to figure it out, I saw that there is already a page with the name "Tableau Vivant (Modern Family)" but it's redirected to the ] one. So, to avoid doing anything stupid I prefered to ask. I just remove the redirect and then move the first one to the second? Thanks in advance. ] (]) 01:47, 28 June 2013 (UTC)
:Admin needs to delete the redirect first. I usually just tag the redirect speedy (un-contentious maintenance), then move after deletion, and the re-create a new redirect.--] (]) 01:58, 28 June 2013 (UTC)
::I've tagged the redirect with {{tl|db-move}} with an explanation. :) ] (]) 02:01, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

:::{{ec}} Yes TG, , an episode of the show, currently redirects to ], the show's article. But that's wrong and you are correct. All ] that have titles of existing articles should be titled using the "Episode Title (''Modern Family'')" format. --] (]) 02:03, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

::::Thanks everyone for the help. I am here only 2 weeks and still trying to learn. And from what I see, I am glad I didn't remove the redirect on my own. ] thanks for adding the tag. Hopefully an administration can help :) ] (]) 02:12, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

== Glossary breakdown ==
] uses ] through the whole article. Half way through 'L' it breaks and becomes unreadable. The article is 350kB which is huge. I tried a couple times to fix but the WMF error page keeps showing up. I don't know if it is my sys or the connection. There are lots of glossary template bugs and bug fixes on the talk page. Does anyone else want to look into it?--] (]) 02:22, 28 June 2013 (UTC)
:First time I've ever come to the help desk and seen one my pet articles raised here. I've fixed the issue, which was that {{tl|cuegloss}} and {{tl|cuegloss2}} have been nominated for deletion and the nominator failed to enclose the tfd template in noinclude tags. Glad you were on the alert.--] (]) 02:53, 28 June 2013 (UTC)
::No problem.{{resolved}}--] (]) 03:06, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

== Fatal exception message ==
Hi, I keep getting this message when I try to edit or just access my watchlist - 2013-06-28 04:57:40: Fatal exception of type MWException - Can this be fixed, please? ] (]) 05:04, 28 June 2013 (UTC)
: Hi, look, sorry about that, it seems to have fixed itself. Thanks anyway. ] (]) 05:06, 28 June 2013 (UTC)
::Seems like the whole site was down for about 15 minutes. I could only access the mainpage; click on anything else and you got that error. I'm sure we'll be hearing more about it.--] (]) 05:10, 28 June 2013 (UTC)
:::Wow, that was an ugly outage. I told Fuhgettaboutit not to click that big red button that said "destroy the site". :p And, uh, the toolbar here is gone, so I have to manually type my four tildes. Haha. ] (]) 05:26, 28 June 2013 (UTC)
::::]:-)--] (]) 12:48, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

== problems with uploading & clicking to pictures ==

Hi I don't know why but an "internal fatal error" notice in a red box comes up when I've edited an article or if I click on a picture to see the bigger file. Contents of box reads: 2013-06-28 04:59:21: Fatal exception of type MWException - this might just happen again when I submit. What's going on? Fingers crossed. ] (]) 05:15, 28 June 2013 (UTC)
:Oh, just saw the section above. Okay. Will wait. ] (]) 05:17, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

== No toolbars when editing ==

I know the site was down for 15 minutes or so, but does everyone ''not'' have a toolbar when they edit pages? I have nothing above the edit box and just a long list of symbols below it. But no links, no templates, no menus, anywhere on the edit page. ] (]) 05:34, 28 June 2013 (UTC)
: Seems ok to me, but another editor a few questions up made the same comment about missing toolbar. If you're still having that issue, you should ask at ]. ] (]) 06:25, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

::See I started at VP. I hope they fix this soon. ] (]) 07:20, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

:::Word is that the site was actually down for about 45 minutes. Now if I could just get back the normal edit page. Can't do everything manually forever. Haha. I'm sure there are many other edtiors having the same problem. ] (]) 07:28, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

== Where is the "Advice to academics" page? ==

There is a page somewhere that explains the "tertiary source" nature of WP to writers who are more used to writing in acadamic journals. I need it to help an editor who is attempting to write an article here about his current research towards his PhD - "I do plan to publish my synthesis in a peer reviewed journal in organic chemistry and this process will be easier when the reviewer can view the short but sweet Misplaced Pages article on the compound."<]> -- ] (]) 06:35, 28 June 2013 (UTC)
:Perhaps ] or ]. -- ] (]) 06:45, 28 June 2013 (UTC)
::Thanks John. ] (]) 07:00, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

== Profile ==

I wanted to know what does it take to have a[REDACTED] profile of your own? Does someone have to be rich, famous or infamous etc...

What if I want to create my own[REDACTED] profile, can I? I have several online articles on crime, politics etc...I can have a good enough profile, what would it take? Does the Wiki team decide this?

Do reply please,

Rustam Roy <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 09:38, 28 June 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:Do you want to write an article about yourself, or about an encyclopedic topic about which you are knowledgeable? In the former case, writing an article about yourself is strongly discouraged. See the policies on ] and on ]. In the latter case, please be sure that the topic is not already covered in one of our articles. If it is in one of our articles, but you want to add content, you may edit the article. If it is not covered, then you may create an article, but you are advised to first read our policies and guidelines so that your contributions are neutral, not overly promotional, and are otherwise encyclopedic. ] (]) 12:15, 28 June 2013 (UTC)
::You are not currently registered. Creating a registered account has several advantages, including the privilege of creating new articles. ] (]) 12:16, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

:"Famous or infamous" might get someone an article depending on just how famous or infamous they are - more specifically see the ] standard - I'm a afraid merely being "rich" won't do it. ] (]) 13:34, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

:Misplaced Pages does not contain profiles: it is not a directory. It contains articles, which are neutrally written summaries of what has already been written in reliable published places about notable subjects. --] (]) 14:02, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

== 100K Initiative, Project Pengyou, and Golden Bridges ==

Hello!

I was wondering if Obama's 100K Strong Initiative, as well as organizations Golden Bridges and Project Pengyou (Both of which are affiliated with the initiative), are notable enough to write Misplaced Pages articles on. I believe they are very important organizations that promote Chinese and American cultural understanding, which will be key in the development of these two country's very important relationship, not to mention global relations as a whole.

Thanks for your help!
Joey <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 09:56, 28 June 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

: I would suggest bringing this up on the talk page of the ] article. You say ''which will be key'' which sounds like something that may happen in the future (see ]). That wouldn't be suitable encyclopaedic content. If reliable, notable, sources describe these organizations in conjuction with relations between those 2 countries then adding them to that article may be the best approach. ] (]) 12:17, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

== Standard Alliance Insurance Nigeria PLC ==

hello

I represent the above mentioned company as an online brand manager . I would like to point out that I have not been able to see my article on the above company which I created a few weeks ago.

kindly review your system and let me know if i need to rectify anything.

best regards

Arinze Asiegbunam <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 11:19, 28 June 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

: You created ], but didn't submit it for review. You would need to click the link that says "Submit your draft when you are ready for it to be reviewed!". Before that, however, you ought to read Misplaced Pages's guidance on ]. It is difficult for someone with a conflict of interest to write an article with a ], and it is likely that an attempt will be seen as ], which I think is the case for your draft. You also need to read ]. - ] (]) 11:28, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

:(edit conflict) Click "Contributions" at the top of any page to see your edits. You created ] The box at the top says "Article not currently submitted for review." If you want to submit it then click the green button saying "Submit your draft when you are ready for it to be reviewed!" It will probably be rejected in the current form. I recommend you make it far less promotional before submitting. See ] for how to make section headings so the table of contents is automatically generated. ] (]) 11:30, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

== Article Creation - ការបង្កើតអត្ថបទ - L'création de l'article ==

*I would like to create an article, but I have no English sources, only Cambodian. Is this permissible?

* ខ្ញុំចង់បង្កើតអត្ថបទមួយប៉ុន្តែខ្ញុំមិនមានប្រភពភាសាអង់គ្លេសទេក្នុងប្រទេសកម្ពុជាតែប៉ុណ្ណោះ។ នេះគឺអនុញ្ញាត?

* Je voudrais créer un article, mais je n'ai pas de sources anglaises, seulement cambodgiens. Est-ce autorisé?

--] (]) 13:11, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

:Yes, articles on the English Misplaced Pages do not require sources to be in English, so you can write an article based on ] sources provided they pass the ] standard. If you want to write an article in French you can get assistance at ]. -- ] (]) 13:20, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

::But see ]. Translations may be required under some circumstances. ] (]) 13:36, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

::: Thank you Rodger and Andy. --] (]) 18:09, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

== Review an article ==

Just wanted to know if there is a way or a place where I can put an article I created so it can be reviewed. For example, I've created ] but it didn't get reviewed yet. Do I have to do something to make this possible? Thanks ] (]) 15:04, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

:I have made some minor formatting edits and added a {{tl|new}} template to alert others that it may need reviewing in more depth.--] (]) 15:14, 28 June 2013 (UTC)
::]? ] (]) 15:15, 28 June 2013 (UTC)
:::Thanks ]. Can I add this tag on my own in every article I make or someone else has to do it for me? And ] thank you so much for the article. I'll go through it but it'll take me some time since it seems long :) Hope it's helpful. ] (]) 15:32, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

::::Yes you can add it yourself. We usually encourage newer users to create drafts in a user sandbox or at ] first so that they can be reviewed before being moved to the mainspace. If you use a sandbox, you can tag it with {{tl|User draft}}. If you use AFC there are instructions there as to how to tag for review.--] (]) 16:03, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

== right to left ==

i want to write from arabic book. in arabic language, word are right to left. but in english site is left to right. what i must to do ? --] (]) 15:42, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

:Please see ]. ] (]) 15:52, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

:The is also the . ] (]) 15:57, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

::Or as an interlanguage link ].--] (]) 16:00, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

== What has happened to my username? ==

It is red, and though I sign posts as directed (Gimelgort 18:20, 28 June 2013 (UTC)) it reads unsigned thanks <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) </span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:Tis blue now (it don't turn red until some thing has been added into the text box (in this case just a "full stop")- don't worry, you'll soon get the hang of it).--] (]) 18:31, 28 June 2013 (UTC)
::To expand on that a little, your signature (or anywhere else that the link ] appears) links to ]. However, that page doesn't exist until you or someone else creates it. Misplaced Pages's software marks links to non-existent pages in red (clicking on them will give you the option of creating that page) - since your userpage hadn't been created, your name appeared in red whenever it was linked. Now that there is some content on the page, the link has turned blue, indicating that the link's target is an existing page. You can edit your userpage to supply other editors with information about yourself; see ] for more information about this. ]&nbsp;]&zwj;] 19:04, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

:The easiest way to get a valid signature is to leave the "Signature" field at ] blank, and not have a checkmark at "Treat the above as wiki markup". ] (]) 19:28, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

== St. ==

Good afternoon,

I am a Communications Specialist writing on behalf of the St. Johns County Board of County Commissioners. As the local government body serving St. Johns County, our organization has a vested interest in the content written on the Misplaced Pages page designated for our region. In our efforts to provide residents, visitors, and external viewers with the most up-to-date and factual information regarding St. Johns County, we recently established a Misplaced Pages account to offer edits and improvements to the page. Out of respect and consideration for the rules and guidelines detailed by Misplaced Pages, we have made consistent efforts to offer content which we feel supports Misplaced Pages’s goals of sharing unbiased, community based, and reference backed information. Though we are extremely proud of St. Johns County and would love to fill the Misplaced Pages page with endless accolades, we recognize our responsibility to offer site visitors neutral information. We welcome any feedback on how best to balance these efforts. As an example, we would like to share the fact that St. Johns County has been recognized as having the number one school district in the state. There are numerous references explaining this recognition, how it was established, and what it means for our residents and the future of St. Johns County. With your help, we hope to share this type of County fact on Misplaced Pages in an appropriate fashion. Thank you in advance for your time.
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    January 20

    Foreign language citation in English articles?

    I was reading an English article and was unsatisfied with the amount of information, so I switched it to Spanish (a language I can read) and found a lot more info there. If I wanted to write some of that into the English article for those who can't read Spanish, would it be appropriate to still use the Spanish-language citations? Qqars (talk) 02:34, 20 January 2025 (UTC)

    Hi Qqars. The sources cited on English Misplaced Pages articles do not have to be written in English themselves. But if you wish to use them here, it is your responsibility to double-check that they actually do support the content you write. Sometimes a ref might be incorrect in one place, and then copied to somewhere else in a way that spreads the mistake even more widely. That happens even in English sources, but copying between different[REDACTED] sites seems to be more prone to it. DMacks (talk) 02:38, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
    What DMacks says. Additionally, remember that a lack of information in an English-language article doesn't necessarily reflect a lack of English-language sources; it may instead reflect a lack of energy for looking for those English-language sources that do exist. -- Hoary (talk) 02:42, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
    @Qqars: I would encourage the use of the trans-title parameter when citing a non-English source. Fabrickator (talk) 06:53, 20 January 2025 (UTC)

    Content of a filmography

    I'm looking at the page of a director and their filmography a number of items described as "documentary installation" which I assume are a form of video installation. Do these belong on a filmography? The filmography also contains standard films. Also, this filmography contains a number of short films for which I can find few, if any sources. Do items on a filmography have to be notable? Truthnope (talk) 04:12, 20 January 2025 (UTC)

    Can you give us a link to the page ? Anatole-berthe (talk) 09:00, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
    Tina Gharavi. For full disclosure, the IP address that made the recent edits on that page are mine. I only started using this account recently. Truthnope (talk) 09:34, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
    I don't know if there are an official policy about cite films that aren't notable in the filmography of someone who is notable. Anatole-berthe (talk) 10:17, 20 January 2025 (UTC)

    IMO, filmography entries don't have to be notable. I've added shorts lacking articles just for completeness. I'm not so sure about documentary installations, whatever those are. Clarityfiend (talk) 04:24, 20 January 2025 (UTC)

    redict

    Popular paksitani drama Meem Se Mohabbat has delated because of socks and redirect now drama has full sources, should i unredict or draft? by --Sunuraju (talk) 12:34, 20 January 2025 (UTC)

    Create draft first, and a reviewer will unredirect it once the draft is accepted into the mainspace. Tutwakhamoe (talk) 12:50, 20 January 2025 (UTC)

    Citing CVs?

    For biographies of academics, is their CV considered sufficient to cite for things like editor positions or honors? Mcavoybickford (talk) 12:51, 20 January 2025 (UTC)

    Per WP:PROPORTION, just because something is on their CV, it shouldn't necessarily be in the WP-article. See also WP:ABOUTSELF. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 13:07, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
    This isn't my claim. My question is whether a CV can function as a citation for the kind of information that belongs in an article. Mcavoybickford (talk) 13:21, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
    Hello, @Mcavoybickford. Non-independent sources may be cited for certain kinds of information - see WP:SPS. They do not contribute to establishing notability, and the existence of a source is only one of the considerations which goes into decideing whether a matter should be mentioned in an article or not. ColinFine (talk) 15:23, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
    A cite to the website or other publication of the awarding body might be better. That provides a way for readers ro learn about the context of the award, which can be important because sometimes different awards have similar names for various reasons and a CV entry might not use a precise enough wording to prevent confusion. DMacks (talk) 17:22, 20 January 2025 (UTC)

    Vandal templates on shared IPs

    Hello, I have tagged 92.43.71.70 with {{uw-vandalism4}} after a recent unexplained blanking. I noticed the talk page is flush with historical warnings, but it seems like users would start back from 1 each time. Am I using the template incorrectly (i.e. since 5 years have passed, just start back at 1)? I was under the impression we use the next template in the sequence from whatever is on the page already (assuming no intermediary intervention/discussion). Perhaps proxy accounts have special status? Tule-hog (talk) 18:40, 20 January 2025 (UTC)

    Hello, @Tule-hog. There's not much point in putting warnings on IP talk pages anyway, unless there is evidence that the same person is using that IP for a period. But I certainly don't think there's any point in putting a high-level warning, even if the previous warning was only a couple of weeks ago, because it's unlikely that the same person will see it. (Do IPs even get notified of messages on their talk pages? I don't know). ColinFine (talk) 19:31, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
    Thanks for reply. In future on IP talk pages lacking evidence of same person throughout, I will only increase vandal template warning if within the same month and I won't go higher than 3. (Template has been useful for me in past as quick check if other users have undone edits that didn't get marked 'Reverted' upon fix.) I took this case to WP:AIV as all edits appear consistently WP:NOTHERE. Tule-hog (talk) 20:53, 20 January 2025 (UTC)

    Name correction

    Greetings everyone. How do I correct the name of a person on Misplaced Pages? I am able to edit the body but have not figured out how to change the main page name. Thank you Aaronlouis1 (talk) 19:33, 20 January 2025 (UTC)

    Hello, @Aaronlouis1. The direct answer to your question is by moving the article. But you should on no account be editing an article about yourself: the most you should do is make a suggestion for change. Please see WP:AUTOPROB. ColinFine (talk) 19:44, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
    You may request a page move at Requested moves. Note that Misplaced Pages does not necessarily use legal or official names as article titles, but the most commonly used name, see WP:COMMONNAME.
    Please read WP:AUTO before attempting to edit about yourself. 331dot (talk) 19:46, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
    Thank you for the info! Aaronlouis1 (talk) 19:59, 20 January 2025 (UTC)

    how to check the status of a pending extended-confirmed-protected edit request

    Where do I go to check the status of a pending edit request for an extended-confirmed-protected page? Kenfree (talk) 21:26, 20 January 2025 (UTC)

    You just go back to the page you made the request on to see if it has been edited. 331dot (talk) 21:37, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
    Sorry, where do I find the backlog of protected edit requests to see where one is in the queue? Kenfree (talk) 22:01, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
    See the list at Category:Misplaced Pages extended-confirmed-protected edit requests. TSventon (talk) 22:04, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
    thanks Kenfree (talk) 22:08, 20 January 2025 (UTC)

    January 21

    Middleton family

    Reference number 191 is in red - I have got it all wrong and I get confused. Please repair the damage. I am sorry Srbernadette (talk) 06:29, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

    Srbernadette Fixed, you had written the year in the access date as "20025". Respectfully, you make this specific error quite often; you probably just hit the zero twice by accident. When this happens the red message says "check date values in accces-date", to identify where exactly the issue is. 331dot (talk) 07:08, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
    On the phenomenon of the frequent occurrence of specific kinds of error, Srbernadette: On 12 October, Tenryuu suggested to you that "you should consider writing down what other editors have been saying so that you have a 'common mistakes made' note that you can reference to the side of whatever device you're using." If you didn't implement that then, perhaps you could implement it now. -- Hoary (talk) 11:09, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

    Whitespace on top of page

    The page Vishwaroopam controversies displays a line of whitespace on top of the article. Why is that there, and how can it be removed? Truthnope (talk) 08:16, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

    Fixed.--♦IanMacM♦ 08:21, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

    phone keyboard constantly recentering the screen

    I am trying to edit pages on my Samsung S22 but opening the keyboard will forcefully recenter the screen every couple seconds, making it impossible to see what I'm typing. Sometimes it closes the keyboard entirely.


    This problem persists even if I use the "desktop site" option in mobile. I'm using Firefox.

    Any solutions? Scuttlebug Jam (talk) 12:17, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

    Not had this issue on my A15 (Chrome). Odd. Could you switch to Gboard? JayCubby 14:41, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
    I have the same problem with Firefox while using other websites. I think it's Firefox's issue. Tutwakhamoe (talk) 15:19, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
    @Scuttlebug Jam, Using Chrome on Android and been through that, but now i am the boss (feeling so). Basically i avoid that by going top again. Ok, simply whenever i enter something, that text hide itself and next line appear at top most screen, at that moment i just scroll to top of the screen (top of the section) and then again scroll to that particular line, and guess what - no issue. try once.––kemel49 17:01, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

    Category history

    If you add a category to your watchlist, it notifies you when pages are added to or removed from that category. The category history (View History tab) does not show this information, however, as it only includes changes to the category page itself. How would I see the history of additions/removals for any category (regardless of whether it is on my watchlist)? Is it available? If a category suddenly got bigger or smaller, it would be useful to see which pages had been added or removed. --Jameboy (talk) 17:30, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

    User:Nardog/CatChangesViewer is useful for this. * Pppery * it has begun... 17:32, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

    Image

    While visiting the page This Must Be the Place (film), I noticed this image: . The source says "Facebook" but the link is not accessible: . The image caption states: "Teaser poster of This Must Be the Place"; but a reverse Google Image brings up Pinterest Paper Cuts of similar sayings: . I'm not sure how to put up an image for deletion; but I think this is not what it purports to be. Maineartists (talk) 23:24, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

    Is there another, more stable source (there are usually those that hold images of film posters)? Generally, this would go to Files for discussion or Deletion requests on Commons. But preferably look for one that is fair use. 2601AC47 (talk·contribs·my rights) Isn't a IP anon 23:38, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
    OK. Thanks. Taking it to Deletion requests on Commons. This is not a poster for the film ("early" or otherwise). Obviously this was a hoax of some sorts. Maineartists (talk) 00:00, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

    This was much harder than I expected. WP does not make it easy to simply place an image up for requested deletion! Yeesh! I placed the required template on the image page here: , but from there on it's just a big mess. As instructed: and then listed: ; but it does not seem to be correct. I have successfully placed several articles up for AfD but this one threw me. What did I do wrong? TIA. Maineartists (talk) 00:36, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

    @Maineartists: The file is uploaded at the English Misplaced Pages (because it's non-free) and not Commons so a deletion discussion should be here and not at Commons. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:51, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
    Maineartists, I suggest that you reverse your edits so far and follow the process at Misplaced Pages:Files for discussion. TSventon (talk) 01:06, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
    Already done. I was only following the advice / directions given above. Guess I should have gone to FfD first. Thank you, TSventon for linking the process. I had no idea what "so a deletion discussion should be here" meant. Heading there now. This was a first for me. Now I know. Maineartists (talk) 01:13, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
    @Maineartists: it's confusing if you are not a copyright expert (neither am I). You are more likely to get specialist advice at Misplaced Pages:Media copyright questions. TSventon (talk) 01:23, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
    Thanks. This one had nothing to do with copyright. The image was not what it purported it to be: . The uploader has a history of uploading questionable images to WP with numerous deletions and violations in their history; without any response on their Talk Page to notifications. The image in question has been removed from the article and successfully placed for FfD. Thanks again. Maineartists (talk) 01:31, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
    The nomination looks fine. Media Copyright Questions is a place for help with image copyrights, tagging, non-free content, and related questions so I think this query would have been in scope. TSventon (talk) 01:55, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

    January 22

    Default alt text for image not appearing in article

    As you can see I added alt text to the structured data of https://commons.wikimedia.org/File:Greenhouse_gas_emission_and_absorption_by_Turkey.svg

    But when I use https://www.w3.org/WAI/test-evaluate/easy-checks/image-alt/ to check

    https://en.wikipedia.org/Greenhouse_gas_emissions_by_Turkey#Monitoring,_reporting_and_verification

    I cannot see it.

    This is the first time I tried to use default alt text so perhaps I have missed something? Chidgk1 (talk) 06:40, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

    I don't think you can add alt text to the image itself (i.e., on commons). Alt text is used in an article when you add the image. Otherwise all the different Wikipedias would be stuck with the same wording and language for the alt text. Meters (talk) 07:27, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
    See MOS:ALT Meters (talk) 07:29, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
    Also see meta:Community Wishlist Survey 2021/Reading/Alt-Texts and Image Descriptions. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:44, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
    @Meters Thanks for those links but I am still confused. I already have added English alt text to the image itself (i.e., on commons) - that is not a problem and as it is labelled as "English" I presume other language Wikipedias will not use it but could also add text in their own languages. You can see it on the image link above by clicking "structured data" and scrolling to the bottom of the structured data. My problem is that the text is not appearing when I use the image on Misplaced Pages. Chidgk1 (talk) 14:23, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
    @Chidgk1: The image used in Greenhouse_gas_emissions_by_Turkey#Monitoring,_reporting_and_verification is kept on this English wiki at Greenhouse_gas_emissions_by_Turkey#/media/File:Greenhouse_gas_emission_and_absorption_by_Turkey.svg, not on Commons.
    Regardless of where it is kept, the image in the article will only have alt text if an alt= has been included in its file statement. For the article concerned, there is no alt= parameter:
    ] can take out. There is some correlation with the ], such as a dip during the ].]]
    You need to add an alt= parameter. You can refer to MOS:IMAGESYNTAX for an example.
    The above will apply regardless of where the image is kept.
    Note that the alt text should describe what the image is, not the graph's contents. So, for example, "A graph showing the levels of greenhouse gas emissions and absorptions in Turkey from 1990 to 2022.". If the data shown by the graphs in the article is important to the article's readers, then separate tables of the data ought to be included the article, as stipulated by MOS:TEXTASIMAGES. Bazza 7 (talk) 14:47, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

    i want to post my content in draft

    I am planning to edit my Misplaced Pages content based on the guidelines, but I am unsure how to move it to the draft space. Julynoeh (talk) 07:05, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

    It can simply be moved to the draft space by any autoconfirmed user, which you are. See WP:MOVE, but if you mean your content in User:Julynoeh/sandbox, there's little point moving it to Draft. That draft has already been rejected by User:Rusalkii, not just declined, and a rejected draft usually should not be resubmitted. See WP:AFCREVIEW Meters (talk) 07:21, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
    @Julynoeh As you must know, since you Wikilinked it, there is an existing article at Over-the-air update. If you have any content from your draft that is reliably sourced and relevant, you could add it to that article. Use your own words to paraphrase the sources you cite, not chatbots. Mike Turnbull (talk) 12:01, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

    Inter-language Links in Coding for the German and French Misplaced Pages Severs.

    I know how to write an inter-language link to produce a broken link in an English article to a page that does not exist on the English server, but does exist in a foreign language Misplaced Pages server:
    French:{{ill|Conann|lt=Conann|fr|Conann (film)}}, i.e. Conann 
    German:{{ill|Conann|lt=Meeples' Choice Award|de|Meeples' Choice Award}}, i.e. Meeples' Choice Award 
    However, I would like to know the reciprocal German and French coding to do the same thing, i.e. link to a Misplaced Pages article that does not exist on that respective language Misplaced Pages server, i.e. the French or German server, but does exist in the English server:
    French: ?
    German: ?
    Does anyone know if such coding exists and whether there are help pages on the French and German server for this coding? SMargan (talk) 08:55, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

    @SMargan: you can check the Wikidata item d:Q13606208. fr:Modèle:Lien exists, but no de equivalent. You could ask at de:Misplaced Pages:Fragen zur Misplaced Pages whether they have anything similar. TSventon (talk) 09:17, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
    @SMargan: Each Misplaced Pages language makes its own policies. The German Misplaced Pages has decided to not allow such links in articles. See de:Hilfe:Internationalisierung#Im Text sichtbare Interwiki-Links. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:17, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
    @TSventon: TSventon (talk) Thanks for the clarification! You have been a great help. I found this coding on the German server {{#interlanguagelink:en|Friedrich Schiller}}, however, it just seemed to produce no text at all. Now that you have told me that there is no comparative German coding, I will stop looking. SMargan (talk) 11:41, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
    @TSventon: TSventon (talk) Sorry to bother you again, but is there a Inter-language Link coding for the Spanish language server as well? SMargan (talk) 11:41, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
    Hi, @SMargan. The Wikidata item d:Q13606208 (which TSventon linked to) has an es-wiki link to es:Plantilla:Enlace interlingüístico. Whether or not it has the same functionality as {{ill}} I don't know. ColinFine (talk) 11:54, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
    If you add {{#interlanguagelink:en|Friedrich Schiller}} it is the same as ] and changes the en link under In anderen Sprachen to en:Friedrich Schiller. If you were allowed to link the article you would add a colon ]. TSventon (talk) 12:00, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
    @TSventon: TSventon (talk) - Thanks once again for your assistance! You have been a great help! SMargan (talk) 13:14, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

    Request for Guidance on Article Review

    Hello Team,

    I have been submitting the article for review for the past three days, but it is still showing as a draft, with no violations indicated on the talk page. Following Misplaced Pages guidelines, I disclosed that this is a paid contribution and added the following statement to my user page:

    "This user, in accordance with the Wikimedia Foundation's Terms of Use, discloses that they have been paid by ZAPTA Technologies on behalf of Nasir Ali for their contributions to Misplaced Pages."

    I have published this article without any charges. Could you please advise on the next steps?

    Best regards,

    Mohsin Ali (Taching1989) Taching1989 (talk) 09:51, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

    @Taching1989 I have added the template which will allow you to submit the draft for review. Before you do, find a better source for citation #1. You use Crunchbase, which is deprecated (see the link). Are you sure your draft shows how the company meets our notability criteria for companies? Mike Turnbull (talk) 11:48, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
    Thanks for guidance, should I remove Crunchbase link? Taching1989 (talk) 11:53, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
    Hello, @Taching1989. Without looking at the draft, I would reply Yes, you should remove the Crunchbase link, and any information which is cited only to that link (unless you can find a better source for that information). ColinFine (talk) 11:55, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
    Yes, I removed it. I am looking for more guidance to publish my article. Taching1989 (talk) 11:56, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
    I have removed the link and submitted it for review. Kindly check if everything is completed. Taching1989 (talk) 12:01, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

    Editing an image I created for the Portuguese Misplaced Pages on the English Misplaced Pages

    Edição de uma imagem que eu criei para a[REDACTED] em português na[REDACTED] Inglesa

    Eu criei e editei na pagina Terno Pitagórico da Misplaced Pages de Lingua Portuguesa uma imagem geométrica de minha autoria para a compreensão da minha edição "Dedução das equações algebrica do trio pitagórico a partir da geometria". Eu preciso fazer upload desta imagem para a edição na pagina Pythagorean Triple da Wikipédia de língua Inglesa, e tentei de varias formas e não consegui, por esse motivo não consegui minha edição. Quando fiz o upload da imagem na edição em Português eu coloquei como imagem livre para uso. Aguardo uma orientação para eu poder fazer upload da imagem e conseguir a minha edição na Wikipédia Inglesa. Gonzagalaier (talk) 11:58, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

    Translation: Editing an image I created for the Portuguese Misplaced Pages on the English Misplaced Pages

    I created and edited on the pt:Terno pitagórico (Pythagorean Triad) page of the Portuguese Language Misplaced Pages a geometric image of my own for the understanding of my edition "Deduction of the algebraic equations of the Pythagorean trio from geometry". I need to upload this image for editing on the Pythagorean Triple page of the English Misplaced Pages, and I have tried in several ways and have not been able to, for this reason I have not been able to edit it. When I uploaded the image in the Portuguese edition I put it as a free image for use. I'm waiting for guidance so I can upload the image and get my edit on the English Misplaced Pages. (via Google translate) TSventon (talk) 12:06, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

    @Gonzagalaier Please use English when posing a question here. The file you wish to use appears to be File:Deduction pythagorean triple equations by geometry.png, which is on Commons and can therefore be incorporated into articles on en:Misplaced Pages as explained at Help:Pictures. However, I suspect that its use will be controversial, so you should probably discuss this on the article's Talk Page at Talk:Pythagorean triple. Mike Turnbull (talk) 12:16, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

    How unredict

    few weeks i made draft of Aye Ishq-e-Junoon by added soruces and summit for review but CNMall41 rejected my draft twice and i keep and rediting add soruces for series which CNMall41 think i was one of socks, i was fifteen year veteran joined Misplaced Pages and when moved Aye Ishq-e-Junoon to main page, there was re-editing by someone and i had noticed my article was reviwed by bot and cnmail41 moved to rediect , i had grammar issues by --Sunuraju (talk) 12:12, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

    @Sunuraju Your draft was examined by the experienced reviewer User:CNMall41, who noted that it used unreliable sources. It has been redirected to a related article. CNMall41 may wish to comment further. Mike Turnbull (talk) 12:37, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
    should i add relibale sources ? Sunuraju (talk) 12:46, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
    The edit summary at Aye Ishq-e-Junoon was NEWSORGINDIA and other unreliable sources. Redirecting as an alternative to deletion but will take to AfD should there be an objection. Basically, the opinion was that this was not a notable topic. You can either revert the redirection and add sources (but make sure they are reliable), or do nothing.
    Be aware if the sourcing still doesn't meet GNG it'll likely go through AfD. Lee Vilenski 13:02, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
    To be clear, you DO have a conflict of interest, likely UPE and in the least are MEAT. Don't expect to be rewarded for such. --CNMall41 (talk) 18:18, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

    Deleting my contributions

    How do I go about deleting all my contributions in wikipedia? Clp69 (talk) 18:02, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

    @Clp69 You can revert the contributions you have made but they will not be deleted from the edit history of any article and may be restored by other editors. When you add any content to Misplaced Pages, you irrevocably license it CC BY SA 4.0, as it says when you publish/save any edit. Mike Turnbull (talk) 18:14, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
    Your contributions cannot be deleted, but if referring to vanishing, see this for how to properly do that. We’re sorry if there are any complications you’ve had here. 2601AC47 (talk·contribs·my rights) Isn't a IP anon 18:15, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
    @Clp69 Furthermore, every time you edited Misplaced Pages you were clearly told that you agree to irrevocably release your text under the CC BY-SA 4.0 License and GFDL. Shantavira| 09:56, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
    If you can explain why a particular contribution is not correct or inappropriate, please do so on the article's talk page, citing any relevant sources, and the material will be deleted. However, if the contribution is useful and encyclopedic, it will be retained in the article, because our contributions are not "ours", they are part of the free content on Misplaced Pages. -- Ssilvers (talk) 15:21, 23 January 2025 (UTC)

    Creating an article

    Dear Misplaced Pages: I'm the librarian for Waterford High School (CT). The Athletic Director put together a history of the athletics program from when the school opened in 1956 to the present day. I foolishly (bravely?) suggested I would make a Misplaced Pages page out of the information and link it to the school's page. And now, of course, I have no idea what I am doing. Is there a primer that could walk me through the process? Should I find a copy of Misplaced Pages for Dummies? Any help would be appreciated. Thank you, Matt Cadorette, Librarian, Waterford High School Waterford, CT Mcadorette (talk) 18:22, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

    Hello, @Mcadorette, and welcome to the Teahouse.
    In addition to the good advice given by 2601, My earnest advice to new editors is to not even think about trying to create an article until you have spent several weeks - at least - learning about how Misplaced Pages works by making improvements to existing articles. Once you have understood core policies such as verifiability, neutral point of view, reliable, independent sources, and notability, and experienced how we handle disagreements with other editors (the Bold, Revert, Discuss cycle), then you might be ready to read your first article carefully, and try creating a draft. ColinFine (talk) 21:53, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

    A Wizard is available to walk you through these steps. See the Article Wizard.

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    January 23

    Category:Mass murderers

    I was going to post at Category talk:Mass murderers, but there was a note recommending I post here instead. The Category:Mass murderers doesn't seem to have a clear inclusion criteria. Is it all individuals who have killed 3 or more people without a cooling off period? Do they need to have been convicted in court for murder? Is it mainly for mass shooting/mass stabbing, or do bombings count? Do they need to have committed the act themselves, or can they be included if they ordered or masterminded the killings? VR (Please ping on reply) 04:39, 23 January 2025 (UTC)

    @Vice regent: I guess it's all of them though I'm not sure. Gnu779 ( talk) 12:45, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
    @Gnu779 what is the best place to have this discussion? VR (Please ping on reply) 12:59, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
    Hello, @Vice regent. The talk page of one of the WikiProjects linked on that Category talk page: probably WT:Crime and Criminal Biography, I would have thought. ColinFine (talk) 13:52, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
    Thanks VR (Please ping on reply) 13:55, 23 January 2025 (UTC)

    what

    What if blocked IPs edit with a proxy? Is it okay if they only do good edits? Gnu779 ( talk) 12:43, 23 January 2025 (UTC)

    @Gnu779 Does Misplaced Pages:Open proxies answer your question? Shantavira| 13:13, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
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