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| Seems like the IP-sock of ] is back . I got a notification from {{u|Narky Blert}}. I'd like to request PP for these two articles , . Regards. - ] (]) 12:25, 13 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
| == Namantar Andolan == | |||
| :Seconded. This guy is an absolute pest who wastes a lot of volunteer DABfixers' time and effort by introducing or reintroducing bad links, and has been known to remove {{tl|dn}} tags without fixing the problem. ] (]) 15:40, 13 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
| ::IP sock is . - ] (]) 17:43, 19 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
| :::Another sock IP - . Have a look. - ] (]) 12:56, 2 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| ::::{{ping|Fylindfotberserk}} Just saw this. Let me know if this is still an issue. Also, I'm not getting email notifications when someone edits my talk page. I wonder why? ] <small>(])</small> 17:15, 5 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| :::::Actually found a new one while going through the last IP's edits , reverted them in one article . - ] (]) 18:14, 5 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| == Season's Greetings == | |||
| I am struggling to keep on top of changes that are being made by a more-or-less SPA at ], so much so that I've not even found the time to check many of the sources. I've raised one source at RSN - ] - but I have more general concerns relating to POV and dealing with them is difficult when I am spending much of my time on that article merely trying to consolidate cites, fix dreadful English, repetition, overly bold claims, probably mangled section organisation/chronology etc. Any chance that you could add it to your watchlist while I try to work my way through things? Or even have a word with the SPA, {{u|Bhooshannpy}}, because I don't know where to start with that: they clearly mean well even if it seems likely that they may not be entirely neutral in their approach. - ] (]) 13:19, 12 May 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :Looks like a good faith editor. Might be better to let them edit and then fix the material at leisure. If it begins to get out of hand, warn him/her and I'll protect the page. Will leave a note on their talk page as well. --] <small>(])</small> 15:06, 12 May 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ::Sorry to come back to this after so long. I am trying and trying to communicate with them and they are not responding. A lot of the stuff is good (or will be when I fettle the phrasing etc) but some of it is trivial and they seem to be on a dalit-inspired mission to document every instance of violence that occurred, everywhere, often using sources that are of dubious reliability. Often, when I've attempted to sort some of this out, they've reinstated but continue not to talk about it. I'm deliberately not tearing into the thing but even so, there are concerns and they are being ignored. Could you perhaps try having another word, starting with "Hello, I'm an administrator here ..." just to see if that catches their eye. - ] (]) 15:30, 31 May 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :::I've left a note on their talk page but I doubt it will help. If you think it helps, a series of escalating warnings may be necessary but that would be a shame because the editor is adding at least some useful material. --] <small>(])</small> 18:34, 31 May 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ::::Oh, I agree that they've added some useful stuff and it will be better still when it is fettled. Trying to get them to communicate is thus something of a balancing act but they are going to have to do so at some point because we do not operate in a bubble here & someone else may well be more bite-y than me. And I'm not exactly a Dennis Brown-type diplomat myself. - ] (]) 18:38, 31 May 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ::::::Doesn't look like they're paying attention to their talk page so not sure what more we can do. Let's wait and see. --] <small>(])</small> 18:40, 31 May 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :::::::Also, I'm not really editing a whole lot these days and, a bit like Boing, I see my main role as making sure that editors like you are given the space to work. So, just let me know what you want! --] <small>(])</small> 00:35, 1 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ::::::::No, it shouldn't work like that. I'd rather muddle through when someone is clearly trying to do The Right Thing, although I can see this one becoming an issue in due course. Which, obviously, is just my opinion and, hey, lots of people will disagree with me. Or, at least, they usually do! - ] (]) 01:19, 1 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
| Dear ], | |||
| There is one from Bolsa Villege, I have edited this incident vaguely. Many other sources confirm this incident.Could you please edit this particular incident from Bolsa Village for ]. | |||
| --Many thanks. ] (]) 22:32, 28 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ::I apologize, looks like I missed this note completely (the new notification bot gives too many notifications!). I'll take a look sometime today or tomorrow. --] <small>(])</small> 18:15, 30 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :::Dear ], Many thanks for your edit. ----- ] (]) 23:22, 1 July 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ::::You're welcome. Thanks for adding information on an underrepresented topic! --] <small>(])</small> 23:44, 1 July 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :::::Dear ], You are aware that I really worked very hard on this article. Can you please have a look over article again? -----] (]) 08:32, 6 July 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :::::::Will be happy to! --] <small>(])</small> 12:30, 6 July 2013 (UTC) | |||
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| |style="vertical-align: middle; border-top: 1px solid gray;" | <blockquote>When he took up his hat to go, he gave one long look round the library. Then he turned ... (and Saxon took advantage of this to wag his way in and join the party), and said, "It's a rare privilege, the free entry of a book chamber like this. I'm hoping ... that you are not insensible of it." </blockquote> | |||
| (Text on page 17 illustrated in the ] in ]'s ''Mary's Meadow and Other Tales of Fields and Flowers'', illustrated by ], London: G. Bell and Sons, 1915.) | |||
| Hi Reagentspark can you take a look at ] I have taken a glance at the lead paragraph of the article and it contains some major major pov sentences containing "tyranny" and "massacres" all added by a known pov pusher it has become a pov hell hole could you at least clean up the lead a bit? I also had one last question if someone creates an article and certain people do not like it due to there nationalist views should the creator be banned? Futureperf (an admin) seems to be hell bent on banning a user Darknesshines for creating a decent article which has some pov issues but not the scale of minorities in Pakistan thanks a bunch ] (]) 08:23, 7 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :Interesting, the blocked IP(a sock) had the same concern.-] (]) 08:34, 7 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ::RP please just take a look at the article and ignore the tag teaming from Mrt and his crony sarvajna this is a serious issue and not about nationalism any more ] (]) 08:45, 7 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ]] 04:25, 23 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
| In case Anti-Muslim pogroms in India is not on your watchlist. I just responded to your accusation of OR. ] (]) 20:35, 7 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
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| :{{ping|Fowler&fowler}} Thanks Fowler. Hope 2025 is a good year for you. "Full of things that have never been" but, hopefully, good things! ] <small>(])</small> 17:25, 23 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
| ::Thank you {{re|RegentsPark}} for that nice quote from Rilke. I tried to find the fuller version and came up with (middle of the page): <blockquote> And now let us believe in a long year that is given to us, new, untouched, full of things that have never been, full of work that has never been done, full of tasks, claims, and demands; and let us see that we learn to take it without letting fall too much of what it has to bestow upon those who demand of it necessary, serious, and great things.</blockquote> but am having a hard time figuring out the end of that sentence. I wonder if you have the German version. It is been a long time since I passed my German requirement in graduate school by the skin of my teeth, but perhaps I could run it through Google translate and see if they come up with the same. | |||
| ::Regardless, thanks for the nice words. I too hope the coming year will bring some unexpected but pleasant things for all of us. ]] 21:39, 23 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
| :::Or maybe {{re|Joshua Jonathan|Austronesier}} might have the original German source. ]] 21:40, 23 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
| ::::I once had the collected works in pocket-format, but got rid of it a couple of decades ago... ] - ] 04:22, 24 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
| :::::I still have the 6-vol. ] edition of Rilke's works in my shelf, however this hasn't the letters in it. The German original text floats around in several web pages and goes: {{tq|Und nun wollen wir glauben an ein langes Jahr, das uns gegeben ist, neu, unberührt, voll nie gewesener Dinge, voll nie getaner Arbeit, voll Aufgabe, Anspruch und Zumutung; und wollen sehen, daß wirs nehmen lernen, ohne allzuviel fallen zu lassen von dem, was es zu vergeben hat, an die, die Notwendiges, Ernstes und Großes von ihm verlangen.}} (I've verified it by means of Google Books snippets.) Wish you all wonderful holidays! –] (]) 08:28, 24 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
| ::::::Thank you {{re|Austronesier}}. This exchange on Regents Park's page captures the spirit of my greeting card. It is a "rare privilege" indeed. The German text clarifies a little how it might be translated in simple English with the help of Google Translate: " in a long year that is given to us ... full of tasks, demands, and even unreasonable demands; and let us learn to accept them without letting go too much of what it has to give to those who demand the necessary, serious, and great things." It is not perfect, but it is at least in the form in which it can go into my ] ]] 11:12, 24 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
| *A throwaway quote inspired this enjoyable exchange! Ah, the pleasures of Misplaced Pages! Unfortunately my German is limited to Nein andDas Boot and I'm forced to stick with English translations.] <small>(])</small> 17:31, 25 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
| == Happy Holidays == | |||
| RP, I would appreciate you strikeing your comment as the source used does say pogroms. ] (]) 12:59, 8 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :Struck. --] <small>(])</small> 13:10, 8 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ::RP, could the deleted talk of a deleted article be temporarily (for, say, <code>3-12 hrs</code>) restored / userfied? I just need a glimpse. Is that technically ''permitted''? There are ''some'' comments which I need to collect, ''that's all'', and then one admin can delete it perhaps? You don't have to act upon it, just tell me if it's allowed or not or if there is a policy direct me to that, thanks. ]] <span class="plainlinks"></span> 08:45, 20 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
| *::Which article is it. I don't see why not and I'll userify it for you (unless there are blp issues I suppose). I looked at ] and don't see anything against doing this. Of course, since it serves no purpose other than collecting whatever information you need, it'll have to be deleted fairly soon.--] <small>(])</small> 11:49, 20 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ::::Not article but it's ''talk'' and I don't know of any technical barriers either. ], ping me whenever you do it. I just need a few hours. ]] <span class="plainlinks"></span> 12:12, 20 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
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| Thank you for unblocking me. | |||
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| ::Why is twinkle wikilove working like this? I thought the gift would be a little more glossy but instead what I am left with is just an image and some scribble. ]] <span class="plainlinks"></span> 14:45, 12 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
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| :Thank you {{ping|LukeEmily}}. Best wishes for the holiday season to you and your loved ones and hope that 2025 turns out to be a great year! ] <small>(])</small> 16:29, 24 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
| ::::<small>Are you watching ]? When did {{no redirect|Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi}} → ] happen? Where was I. Shit. ]] <span class="plainlinks"></span> 15:05, 12 June 2013 (UTC)</small> | |||
| ::::::]. --] <small>(])</small> 15:27, 12 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
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| Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion at ] regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you.<!--Template:AN-notice--> As you took part in the KW topic ban. ] / ] / ] / ] 15:49, 16 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
| == Edit warring == | |||
| See large-scale ''undiscussed'' removal of content. I don't have the necessary patience nor do I know the proper way to deal with this kind of edits without unilateral reversion. To me, it looks like vandalism but what do I know, as they say, I am just a surly rustic hillbilly. If I revert it, it will be framed as an edit war and then I will be blocked. ''Kindly'' take necessary steps. Warn him or block him do whatever an admin is supposed to do in these situations. ]] <span class="plainlinks"></span> 18:37, 16 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :It goes on. ]] <span class="plainlinks"></span> 18:38, 16 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
| == WTF? == | |||
| We just discussed this and I objected to unblock and you just went ahead and did it. Please reblock and seek a consensus at ANI. This is admin abuse and I am absolutely livid. ] <sup>'']''</sup> 18:53, 17 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :I don't see it as admin abuse. He voluntarily agreed to a restriction and blocks are not really meant to be punitive. And it's not really necessary to seek consensus for an unblock on ANI. There is, of course (!), already a thread about this on ANI so you're welcome to chime in there. (] --] <small>(])</small> 20:00, 17 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ::Maybe not admin abuse, but saying "okay Spartaz, it's your call" and to then go ahead and unblock anyway is not very classy, don't you agree?--] (]) 09:02, 18 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :::Perhaps :) --] <small>(])</small> 13:43, 18 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ::::I can see this is a big joke for you but Atlan's point is germane. You are too close to Mr T and DS to be able to judge whether a block is appropriate and your unblock was against the blocking policy which states inter alia ... "Except in cases of unambiguous error, administrators should avoid unblocking users without first attempting to contact the blocking administrator to discuss the matter. If the blocking administrator is not available, or if the administrators cannot come to an agreement, then a discussion at the administrators' noticeboard is recommended." | |||
| ::::You knew I was opposed to an unblock and already said at ANI that my block was within policy. I had already invited you to take it to ANI if you disagreed. You chose instead to unblock on a ridiculous pretext without further engagement with me. This is extremely poor judgement and frankly arrogant in your disregard for consensus and alternative viewpoints. You appear to have a history of this and it stinks for you to act in the way with regard to editors you regularly engage with as an editor. The discussion at ANI is clearly a clusterfuck and already worthless but I am not happy with your response and I don't see any evidence that this won't happen again. I am considering an Admin RFCU against you - something I have never ever done in my[REDACTED] career but which I feel is going to be inevitable if there is not some indication that you have got the message about this issue and are willing to take the views of those who feel the unblock was a poor judgement into account with regard to your future behaviour. ] <sup>'']''</sup> 14:12, 18 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ::::::Spartaz, you're angry and rightly so but I can assure you that this is not all a big joke for me, quite the contrary really. I take my role as an admin seriously, perhaps overly so. The way I see it, an admin's job is to facilitate editing, not to prevent it and therefore, yes, other things being equal I do have a preference for unblocking. Yes, I should have at the least informed you of the unblock, that was an oversight and I apologize for that. But, I don't see any history of this and the stuff that is dredged up on ANI is, as usual, only partially reflective of what actually happened. But, of course, if you believe otherwise or see strong evidence that I am some sort of 'serial unblocker against consensus' or that I routinely prop up editors as an involved admin, then you would be well within your rights to start an RfC/U and I respect that. All said and done, I can only really offer you this apology of sorts but, in my conscience anyway, I can assure you I've only acted in good faith. --] <small>(])</small> 14:34, 18 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ::::::::I'm parsing that as you have no regrets, don't care what other people think and have every intention of doing this again. If this isn't the case perhaps you could clarify. ] <sup>'']''</sup> 14:38, 18 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :::::::::{{tps}} Why not just accept what is said instead of trying to "parse" it? What RP says is clear enough to me. Anyone who seeks subliminal messages etc (in relation to anything, anywhere) can always find them, but it usually says more about the person than the message. - ] (]) 14:42, 18 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ::::::::::::Sitush, I don't feel your involvement in this discussion helps anyone. ] <sup>'']''</sup> 14:44, 18 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
| {{od}} (Thanks Sitush.) Spartaz, what I've said above should be reasonably clear but I'll do the parsing.... I've apologized to you and said I should have informed you (regret). I've written a lengthy response along with an apology (I do care). I admit I've not specifically said I've no intention of doing this again but, in my view anyway, if we're talking about unblocking Darkness Shines, I would have to be suicidal to unblock him ever again. I have no suicidal tendencies. You're welcome to start an RfC/U. While, obviously, I am not eager to spend the next month or so defending every action that is bound to be dredged up, I don't believe I have done anything (other than in this case) that is indefensible. --] <small>(])</small> 14:55, 18 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
| *That's much clearer for me now and I happier because I see less likelihood that this will happen again. We all act in the belief that we are doing the right thing but there is a clear strand of opinion (not that this = consensus) that your unblocks are, to put it charitably, overgenerous. In the event that you are ever contemplating putting your head into the lion's mouth again, I strongly urge you to open a discussion at ANI instead. ] <sup>'']''</sup> 15:12, 18 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ::Thank you. I agree that I am a generous unblocker but I don't believe I've done so without the knowledge of the blocking admin (certainly not in the cases dredged up on ANI) other than in this case though, frankly, the number of people I've blocked or unblocked is miniscule. In our current setup, it is far easier to block than it is to unblock so I do believe it is is useful to have the occasional generous unblock, particularly for editors who contribute a lot of content. While many of those unblocked tend to take the rope given to them and then use it to hang themselves (unfortunately!), many do use the vote of confidence that an unblock carries to come out of it as more productive editors. That, in my opinion, is worth the shot. In this case, the least I should have done was to have informed you with an explicit 'reblock if you don't agree' statement, and I do regret that. --] <small>(])</small> 15:24, 18 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
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| Hello. There is currently a discussion at ] regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. <!--Template:ANI-notice--> Thank you. ] <small>(])</small> 18:55, 17 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :Thanks. Commented there. --] <small>(])</small> 19:57, 17 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ::Was it too quiet and peaceful? ] (]) 23:27, 17 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :::Yup. You know. Summer days. Warm, humid, nothing going on, and too early for g&ts! --] <small>(])</small> 23:56, 17 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
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| I think you might need some coffee... You restored the TALK page to http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=User:Mrt3366/Anti-Muslim_pogroms_in_India rather than the actual article! ] (]) 12:16, 20 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ::He did what I asked him to do. He was kind enough to accomodate my request. ]] <span class="plainlinks"></span> 12:26, 20 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
| == you and "moi" == | |||
| You mentioned me on Sitush's page reg my vote at AN/I, we've had a long interaction including a RfC, remember "three admins" you, Spaceman and YellowMonkey? You see AN/I is on my watch-list. I saw the discussion, could have ignored it but saw Oranges' comment and for better or worse I voted the way I did, as a rule I've never voted to support sanctions against anyone, but I think adminship is a job that needs to be done carefully and it isn't being done carefully enough. I am writing here as I'm feeling bad about the vote, bad but not wrong. ] (]) 15:56, 20 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :No problem YK. Thanks for this note. --] <small>(])</small> 20:41, 20 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
| == Favour == | |||
| I have rewritten and expanded on the pogrom article in userspace It is now an entirly different article and I would like your feedback on it please. ] (]) 20:59, 20 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :DS, the problem is the way it is framed it appears to be a POV fork of ]? Is ] a legitimate stand alone topic, my gut says probably. But only if it is framed in the context of religious violence and rioting. The way it is framed now it looks like its trying to elevate all anti-Muslim riots to the level of a pogrom. A better idea would be to rephrase everything in terms of violence, and then indicate that the views on what this violence is ranges from religious rioting (spontaneous?) to deliberate pogroms and/or genocide. The subject should be the fact that Muslims have been beaten up and killed in India and how the different lenses through which these killings can be viewed. (In my opinion, of course.) --] <small>(])</small> 22:17, 20 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ::I thought I had rephrased it to specify violence {{smiley}}, are you suggesting sections which discuss certain incidents as pogroms/genocide? How would you break the article up yourself? ] (]) 22:21, 20 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :::I suggest that we centralise this discussion rather than using our user talk pages?—] <small>]/]</small> 22:32, 20 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ::::I rewrote the lead para to reflect what I think would be roughly the right approach. As an example. --] <small>(])</small> 22:36, 20 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :::::Sorry for butting in. I've just taken a quick read-through and it seems rather disjointed: almost an unbulleted list of events that lacks flow and is likely to become a pov-magnet every time another episode kicks off. I've not looked at the sources but I think it would benefit from some sort of coherence being brought to bear. This might also tighten it up in a way that will prevent it from degenerating into a list in future. And, definitely, the varying nature of the incidents should be emphasised rather than the present tendency that seems to drift towards everything being a pogrom. - ] (]) 22:59, 20 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ::::::Sitush, please feel free to jump in if you have some time to spare, perhaps as S Marshall has said we can use the talk page of the draft to discuss and you guys can let me know were I am going wrong. ] (]) 23:02, 20 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ::::::::Butt away Sitush. The goat act suits you :) But seriously, I agree with you. At present, it appears that the point of the article is to show that there are anti-Muslim pogroms in India. The reality, on the other hand, is that calling these acts of violence pogroms is only one view, and a minority one at that too. I guess it's not just a rewrite it needs but a new point of view. (I'll move all this to the talk page.) --] <small>(])</small> 23:04, 20 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
| I have moved the draft to ] so that the previous history will not be in the article when moved to mainspace. I suspect if any trace of the pogroms article was in the history it would cause a few arguments. ] (]) 09:19, 24 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
| *I seem to recall that RegentsPark made some contributions? Because of the CC-BY-SA and the GFDL, it will be necessary to decide whether a selective ] is appropriate. If so RegentsPark has the technical ability to perform the merge.—] <small>]/]</small> 11:33, 24 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ::Well he will have to do it after it hits mainspace, given the way my name is currently being spammed all over the shop and are being made for my block/ban it is probably just a matter of time till somebody obliges. RP, can you let me know if that is OK please? ] (]) 14:02, 24 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :::I'll take a look. I'm not concerned about my edits not appearing in the history but there may be others. Give me 20 minutes.--] <small>(])</small> 14:05, 24 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ::::Except for a couple of edits by Solomon, and my genius lead paragraph (!), I don't see anything worth merging. The easiest way to do this is to restore Anti-Muslim Violence in India with a redirect to the lowercase v and with history intact. --] <small>(])</small> 14:15, 24 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :::::If you would be so kind O genius of lede paragraph writing {{smiley}} ] (]) 14:20, 24 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ::::::You can move them yourself when you're ready. I don't have the time to look at the text right now but could later this afternoon. --] <small>(])</small> 14:21, 24 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :::::::....yeesh, I've just read AN/I. That's not something I normally do so I was unaware of all this background. You know what? I've decided I won't be touching this topic area with a barge pole.—] <small>]/]</small> 17:05, 24 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :::::::::Yup. It's a humungous mess. Makes soap operas look tame in comparison. :) --] <small>(])</small> 17:32, 24 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
| I have requested a history merge of talk page. I am not at all interested in history merge of the actual page. <span style="border:2px solid #000;background:#000">]]</span> 17:42, 24 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :It looks like Athaenara has deleted the redirect as implausible (rightly) and so I guess a history merge is called for anyway. I'll try to do it tomorrow. --] <small>(])</small> 02:01, 25 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ::RP, are you keeping an eye on this article? A few editors seem to think academic sources are no good for statements of fact contrary to policy. If you have time please look at section. ] (]) 09:39, 25 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :::Sorry DS. You're on your own with this one. Just go through the normal DR process. BTW, the DYK was a bit over the top. --] <small>(])</small> 12:20, 25 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ::I imagine nomination is why they are playing silly buggers. ] (]) 10:46, 25 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :::Well... imagination can be never wrong. But even if you withdraw the DYK nom, our comments are still gonna come until the article gets proper. §§]§§ {]/]} 10:52, 25 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ::::I am not asking you to weigh in, I am asking you to keep an eye on things. You are familiar with the history of the article. I thought DYKs were meant to be "over the top" A catchy line to pull people in? ] (]) 12:27, 25 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :::::Catchy lines yes. But a provocative DYK given the history of this article does make me question your judgement. Of the comments on the talk page, the ones made by ] seem quite sensible - perhaps you could work with him on refining the article? --] <small>(])</small> 12:35, 25 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ::::::We all have a little "tabloid" about us I suppose. Anir1uph is a reasonable fellow, and coming up with some good thoughts and I am hoping he continues to help out there. Catch you later. ] (]) 12:44, 25 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ::::::Just so you know, I do listen on the occasion. ] (]) 15:25, 25 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :::::::Never doubted it DS :) --] <small>(])</small> 15:40, 25 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ::::::::Thanks! I am kinda new to this topic area, having generally edited defence-related article. Will try my best :) ] | ] | ] 21:14, 25 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
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| {{archive top|result=DS don't post on Mrt336's talk page again. For any reason. --] <small>(])</small> 19:18, 21 June 2013 (UTC)}} | |||
| I don't know who else to tell this to but ask Darkness Shines to avoid commenting on my talk except for leaving formal notification templates to relevant discussions I have had it with him. I don't want to interact with him on my talk. I ''think'' that is my prerogative. I requested him multiple times politely but he seems to be ignoring those. Do what an admin is supposed to do in these situations, you know better. ]] <span class="plainlinks"></span> 18:26, 21 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :I have to tell you when you violate 3RR, seriously. ] (]) 18:35, 21 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ::Shut the '''''heck up'''''; they were '''not''' reversals. STOP ACCUSING ME OF SOMETHING I DIDN'T DO. I feel ''insulted''. ]] <span class="plainlinks"></span> 18:42, 21 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :::DS, he's right. If you're banned from his talk page, you're banned. I suggest you include your warning in edit summaries or contact an admin if you want to warn MrT. --] <small>(])</small> 18:57, 21 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ::::I really have to respectfully disagree, ANI, ANEW and all the rest mean you have to post, as does 3RR. ] (]) 19:01, 21 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :::::I think the wise thing would be not to post. You can always include a note in your report that states you're not allowed to post on his talk page. Someone else will post the notice for you. (BTW, that doesn't look remotely like a 3RR violation to me but I'm not going to close the report myself.) --] <small>(])</small> 19:04, 21 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ::::::Feel free to if I am wrong, no skin off my teeth. I would expect from the closing admin an admonishment to Mrt to leave a tag till a dispute is resolved, per policy. ] (]) 19:07, 21 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :::::::I would be more than happy to start a ''new'' thread in the ANI about this, should DS choose to keep on disagreeing. ]] <span class="plainlinks"></span> 19:12, 21 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ::::::::Fire away. ] (]) 19:14, 21 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
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| == India-Pakistan#List_of_editors_placed_on_notice == | |||
| How can we permanently delete or remove the named section from the India-Pakistan page? Based on the shenanigans of placing editors on THE LIST and then letting them off lightly when they mess up, the list is even more meaningless than before. Furthermore, editors who shouldn't really be in the position of warning others, especially editors who have themselves been repeatedly ban, are using warnings to create drama and not furthering the productivity of the area. It's worse than useless-- more like trouble. What process can be used to delete the section forever from the page? ] (]) 19:38, 21 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :You would have to take it to arbcom mate. ] (]) 19:42, 21 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ::It would need a clarification/amendment. It's not a bad idea to ask for it to be removed, the whole thing seems to be causing more drama than it is worth. But, I'm focusing my energies on non-controversial topics like ] these days. :) --] <small>(])</small> 20:33, 21 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :::Really? Eton sucks, show me the topic {{smiley}} ] (]) 20:35, 21 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ::::That should require a warning before we even read or think about the subject matter! ] (]) 20:38, 21 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :::::RP, you really should consider our current consensus regarding notability: ] would never be deleted if taken to AfD. Although, in fairness, obscure cricket-related subjects also seem to have a remarkable ability to survive in the face of common sense ... - ] (]) 00:42, 22 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ::::::Misplaced Pages must publish THE TRUTH! I have PERSONAL KNOWLEDGE of all these matches - I DREAMED them all! I will ask administrators to BLOCK YOU! --] <small>(])</small> 11:36, 22 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :::::::Given the prolixy of cricket literature,I'd be astonished if there wasn't a book about Eaton cricket somewhere to source it by. Wisden was still covering Eaton - Harrow within my living memory although I haven't shelled out for one in at least a decade. ] <sup>'']''</sup> 02:11, 25 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
| == Bicholim conflict == | |||
| Hello can you post in my user space the now deleted hoax article "Bicholim conflict". If you are not aware of it see ]. <span style="border:2px solid #000;background:#000">]]</span> 07:31, 22 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :Could you explain why you want it? It doesn't clearly fall into content that can be userified so if you can give more information that would be helpful.--] <small>(])</small> 11:13, 22 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ::Just Curious. If userfication of hoax is not possible can it be made a section in my sandbox. If that also not possible no problem. <span style="border:2px solid #000;background:#000">]]</span> 13:13, 22 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :::Tracking it was a little tricky but the page is already in wikispace at ]. --] <small>(])</small> 15:44, 22 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ::::Thanks. Exactly what was I looking for. <span style="border:2px solid #000;background:#000">]]</span> 16:00, 22 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
| == Copy/paste query == | |||
| I've temporarily blanked ] because it was clearly a copy/paste from the source even though it had subsequently undergone a few (unsourced) changes. There are numerous GSB websites and I'm not even sure that relying on the one that was copied can be justified. Could you perhaps take a quick look at the pre-removal state and apply some brain cells? - ] (]) 11:58, 22 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :BTW, most GSB-related articles are a complete mess. Take, for example, ]. I started cleaning some a while ago and think that I need to put a concerted effort into it because there is apparently some legal action going on in the community and there has been a lot of additional poor contributions as a consequence of that. - ] (]) 12:01, 22 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ::Wow. That looks like a list of every individual in that sub sub caste! --] <small>(])</small> 15:54, 22 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :::It seemed a bit that way, yes. I'm not at all sure what to do with it. I'm also having trouble with {{user|Spedian}} at GSB-related articles and simply do not have the time, background knowledge or even inclination to fix the copyright violations etc. And take a look at - I've never, ever done this before but what the heck are we supposed to do when more and more entries are being added and yet the {{tl|unreferenced}} is being ignored? I thought that there was a tradition that Brahmins were relatively well-educated and literate people etc, so why these and other GSB articles are among the worst I've seen relating to any caste group is beyond me. The contributors have been getting away with it for far too long. - ] (]) 19:06, 22 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
| Hi ], Sorry for the mistake. I have edited only ]. ] (]) 19:20, 22 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :Well, not quite. For example, you have also been involved at ], which I had to hack into a few hours ago. I'm not blaming you for all of this, by the way: I'm a bit frustrated that these problems have existed for so long, that maintenance tags have been ignored and, frankly, that some of the articles were created in the first place. As an example of the latter, I'm struggling to understand why we need a separate article for the Cochin GSBs. - ] (]) 19:26, 22 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
| == ANI == | |||
| Hi. I mentioned you in an ANI thread related to ]. I'm not sure if you want to comment there or not. Cheers, ] (]) 00:08, 24 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :Thanks MathSci. I've been following the ANI thread but have preferred to stay out of it for now but will take a look (have been offline for a day). --] <small>(])</small> 12:14, 24 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ::Took a look. Still no comment :) --] <small>(])</small> 12:37, 24 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
| == ANI == | |||
| I have mentioned you at ] -- ] (]) 06:58, 24 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :Thanks. Will definitely comment there. --] <small>(])</small> 12:15, 24 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
| == 2013 Shahbag protests == | |||
| RegentsPark, Please see the talk page discussion at ] that I started to generate a discussion about the bias in the article. The biased article is left in mainspace intact, and my self-reverted WP:Bold is available to facilitate discussion. ] (]) 21:48, 24 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :I suggest you just go ahead and make your changes stick. I don't know anything about these protests so figuring out the POV is going to be way beyond my pay scale but I don't see why you want to discuss first and change later. Follow BRD, make the changes, and wait for them to be challenged. There is already way too much talk on Misplaced Pages! --] <small>(])</small> 01:59, 25 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
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| :Thank you! --] <small>(])</small> 01:59, 1 July 2013 (UTC) | |||
| == MrT == | |||
| I really do hope that you won't be engaging in another unblock without discussing with either myself or Bwilkins. I realise that this comment doesn't particularly assume gf but I'm sure you can understand why I might want to leave the comment. ] <sup>'']''</sup> 03:31, 1 July 2013 (UTC) | |||
| == Favour II == | |||
| Can you search Jstor for any recent articles which discuss the Shah-Nanavati commission findings on the Godhra train burning, it has surprised me that there are no mentions of this report on recent books which discuss the Gujarat violence. ] (]) 13:51, 1 July 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :I emailed you a couple. There aren't a whole lot but can send more if you like. --] <small>(])</small> 15:07, 1 July 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ::Thanks for that, shall get back to you if these do not contain enough information. Strange that is is not being used ain't it. ] (]) 15:40, 1 July 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :::You edit Misplaced Pages and find things in the real world strange :) Let me know if you want more. I'll scan the list and see if there is anything substantive and will send it along. --] <small>(])</small> 15:44, 1 July 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ::::{{smiley}} As near as I can figure the full report was never released? But I think the reason it is not really used by anyone is due to the fact that the ] (]) 16:10, 1 July 2013 (UTC) | |||
| == Visual Editor == | |||
| I tried Vis Ed and then turned it off because it was complete crap. I realise that it will improve but suddenly my preference seems to have been usurped by some global change. The problem is, I can't spot how to reset my preference - can you? - ] (]) 23:19, 1 July 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :Crap is a polite way of putting it, I just went looking for how to turn it off and was unable to see how, so gotta press edit source now rather than edit. ] (]) 23:25, 1 July 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ::Yep, another SNAFU situation by the development team. This is getting worse by the day. - ] (]) 23:34, 1 July 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :::It has its pluses and minuses. The big issue for me right now is how slow it is. By the time the page loads and I've typed something I've pretty much lost interest. Also, referencing is imperfect. But, edit source is available so, I guess, it's not a big deal. Someone will doubtless write a script to disable it completely. --] <small>(])</small> 23:47, 1 July 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ::::You've lost interest; me, in my advanced years, have forgotten what it was I intended to do ;) - ] (]) 23:51, 1 July 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ::::::Perhaps it'll be more useful on talk pages. That way, by the time DS can finish cursing, he'd be out cold on the sofa. :) --] <small>(])</small> 23:53, 1 July 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ::::::{{ec}} Which, for no particular reason, has just dragged up this ditty from the recesses of that which I deign to call a brain.<p>Oh, how sad it is to be/inert, defunct, inane/Oh, to be like yesteryear/Ert, funct and ane again. - ] (]) 23:54, 1 July 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :::::::Very good RP, perhaps you can persuade the codemonkeys to enable it just for me on talk pages. {{smiley}} ] (]) 00:33, 2 July 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ::::::::Nuke using Preferences → Gadgets → Editing section → hide Visual Editor. The UI is becoming a more confusing place by the months and the Prefs section is rapidly heading in the same direction. - ] (]) 01:16, 2 July 2013 (UTC) | |||
| == Edit warring == | |||
| Thanks for your note, RP. There is still no replies in the talk page of the article. Now if I re-add the contents, would that be counted as revert? Also, the dispute is still not resolved and they are removing the tags. Is it licit? --] <sup> ]</sup> 12:31, 2 July 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :I'll have to take a look but later today. Could you drop a diff about the specific edit you want to re-add? --] <small>(])</small> 13:47, 2 July 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ::Ok, I'll wait a little more for their reply and leave a diff here after performing that edit. Thanks.--] <sup> ]</sup> 14:21, 2 July 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ::I have made edit, they didn't show any concern regarding these contents, also I've made it quite clear why those contents are valid in the discussion ].--] <sup> ]</sup> 18:29, 2 July 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ::There you go, while I was writing this note, an SPA me.--] <sup> ]</sup> 18:29, 2 July 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ::::I have discussed why I have reverted you please drop your stick and assume good faith and stop edit warring with POV edits. ] (]) 18:32, 2 July 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ::::: Furthermore that article in question is about Biharis persecuted in Bangladesh not the persecution of Bengalis the causes section is far to pointy and is a way to try and justify the persecution by bangladeshi editors. ] (]) 18:34, 2 July 2013 (UTC) | |||
| *Just to let you guys know, ECTOPmopr is Nangparbat. ] (]) 18:39, 2 July 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :DS what do you think anyways? I reckon my arguments are decent ? ] (]) 18:41, 2 July 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ::Oh well. Blocked. --] <small>(])</small> 19:24, 2 July 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :::RP, can you take a look at these edits , , , this user is just keep me reverting all the time, this often become annoying.--] <sup> ]</sup> 13:58, 3 July 2013 (UTC) | |||
| Here's my take on this. | |||
| *In ], you need to clearly state what you want added to the article. I suggest starting a new section in the talk page with your suggested text and, if you don't get support, taking this to some form of dispute resolution. At that point, you could place a 'disputed-section' tag on the section where you want the text added. It seems to me that you have one concern, the actions of Biharis during the BLW, and that doesn't really warrant a POV tag on the entire article. And, it seems to me, that you're in a minority over the need for these tags so you might want to bear that in mind. | |||
| *In ], the situation is murkier. There do seem to be general concerns that the article is not neutral. Perhaps what you can do is to create a new section titled "Need for neutrality", state that you're doing so because of the concerns expressed in the 'Horrible Inaccuracy' section above, and that you're tagging the article with a POV tag because of that. Then, list a few of the issues that you believe make the article non-neutral. If you do that, and if Faizan removes the tag, I'll remind him that he needs to go get consensus before removing it. | |||
| *]. Not sure about this. I suggest leaving the text as per Faizan and discussing how to describe the Bangladeshi side on the talk page. | |||
| Hope this helps. A general suggestion is that you place only one tag at a time on articles. Tag bombing is not a good idea because it is usually unnecessarily aggressive. --] <small>(])</small> 14:18, 3 July 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :Thanks for your reply. Yes I've also agreed to remove the tags on the persecution article, but it is quite annoying when someone reverts you. The article on East Pakistan - an user has already expressed his concerns in the talk page ], but still the tags are being removed without replying in the talk page. The article on Bangladesh liberation war - I have already started a ] regarding this right after the first revert, but the user is just reverting without replying in the talk page.--] <sup> ]</sup> 14:32, 3 July 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ::Actually, since the Bangladesh liberation war issue is a content issue between you and Faizan, I suggest a ] if you can't mutually resolve it. It appears to be ideal for that. --] <small>(])</small> 14:40, 3 July 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :::Sure, but it's more frustrating when the other editor is just edit warring without replying in the talk page. There is still no reply in the talk page of Bangladesh liberation war and since the user is on 3RR, I guess one of his associate would make a revert in the article as happened in other articles. Please keep that page in your watchlist.--] <sup> ]</sup> 15:09, 3 July 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ::::Lol, I think that it is not appropriate to accuse the other editor of such. As far as the article of ] is concerned, it will have another RfC. And I am having discussion with on all articles concerned, both at ] and ]. I ought to be invited to this discussion on ] too. <span style="border:2px solid #000;background:#000">]]</span> 15:15, 3 July 2013 (UTC) | |||
| Looks like handbags at dawn for Z&F. On a more serious note though, RP should you have a little time to spare I would appreciate your looking over my of a rather contentious article, it is still in progress but I really would like some feedback. ] (]) 15:34, 3 July 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :Yes. They're both heading for a block. What's the point in that Faizan and Kmzayeem? The trick is not to keep reverting each other but to, instead, seek a broader consensus and be willing to let go if it doesn't come out in your favor. --] <small>(])</small> 19:38, 3 July 2013 (UTC) | |||
| == Hindi == | |||
| You are right. That careless edit/revert was my mistake. I should be more careful. ] (]) 13:17, 3 July 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :Not a problem. I wasn't sure either and had to look up the meaning of Kangars to figure that out. --] <small>(])</small> 13:19, 3 July 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ::OK. Thanks. ] (]) 13:47, 3 July 2013 (UTC) | |||
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| can you pay a visit to the page ], there's nothing written about the princely ] and the history behind its annexation. It is considered to be greatest history in india where its independence came a year after that of whole india. This state has a great islamic culture and tradition dated back to 16th century. They were considered to be the richest princely state with many palaces and guest houses spread across the country, they used to have their own railway, civil services, postal, currency departments and so do you believe that the page ] is complete without that which you have reverted ?? | |||
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| If you have a moment, please read and explain the the user who is reverting six days of work and research out of that article, why academic sources are not "conspiracy theorists" who "always to create sensation to sell their books" and that academic sources are in fact a tad better than newspapers from the period of the incident. He has actually said the Johns Hopkins, Princeton, Oxford and Stanford are "biased 'academic' crap" ] (]) 08:53, 6 July 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :I guess you know ]. He is reverting six days of work and you are reverting 10 years of work. <span style="border:2px solid #000;background:#000">]]</span> 09:03, 6 July 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ::I'm confused. I don't see Solomon7968 editing the article at all? Anyway, apparently there is an edit war going on so I've protected the article to the last version by The Rahul Jain (no idea who will be unhappy or happy with this one!). Please see ] for how to proceed from here. --] <small>(])</small> 12:29, 6 July 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :::I have filled a DRN case, no doubt it will be another waste of time. Six days of hard research and reading down the shitter because of this, great hey. ] (]) 12:54, 6 July 2013 (UTC) | |||
| @RegentsPark You should restore version and protect the page if you want. Protecting version of DS is not fair. ] (]) 14:20, 6 July 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ::Heo, I protected a version by The Rahul Jain because that was the current version. See ] (I haven't looked at the article itself). --] <small>(])</small> 21:40, 6 July 2013 (UTC) | |||
| *(ec)Can you, if you have time see if ''A Journey into the Bleeding City Following the Footprints of the Rubble of Riot and Violence of Earthquake in Gujarat, India'' doi: 10.1177/097133360701900101 is on Jstor, I am after stuff about media coverage on the violence, cheers. ] (]) 14:25, 6 July 2013 (UTC) | |||
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| Wish to clear up some misconceptions regarding your actions. ] (]) 15:09, 8 July 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :I saw that. Thanks, but no comment. I'd rather see a discussion on the content and a back and forth on a did you know will only detract from that. --] <small>(])</small> 15:53, 8 July 2013 (UTC) | |||
| == ] == | |||
| Hi RegentsPark. I know there is a lot to read but, in a previous 3-closer RfC, the closers were taking a long time and it turned out they had basically forgotten all about it. So, just checking up. ] (]) 23:16, 8 July 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :We haven't forgotten :) Should have the final statement in a couple of days. Two continents, holiday weekends, have all intruded. --] <small>(])</small> 23:52, 8 July 2013 (UTC) | |||
| == user:Maunus == | |||
| user:Maunus has violated ] by deleting my talk page edits. I tried to discuss this on his talk page but he shooed my away. I seek appropriate remedial action. ] (]) 15:36, 11 July 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :It's not going to go anywhere YK, let it go. You have to learn to pick your fights.--] <small>(])</small> 16:37, 11 July 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ::I don't understand: "You have to learn to pick your fights". ] (]) 15:19, 12 July 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :::My point is that it is DS's talk page and if he doesn't object to Maunus removing your comments, you're not going to get anywhere with doing anything about it. That's not a fight worth fighting and it is a fight that will cost you (a user pretty much has discretion over his/her talk page). Stick to making comments on article talk pages if you want to engage with DS. --] <small>(])</small> 15:27, 12 July 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ::::OK. I was discussing DS incivility with DS on his talk page, do I take Maunus' deletion as an action approved by DS? I mean before going any further on any issue it is a policy that it be discussed with the concerned editor. ] (]) 15:34, 12 July 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :::::What I mean is I can go to Maunus and say you can't delete Yogesh's comments from DS's talk page. Then DS will surely chime in and say it is ok with him and that he's told you not to post on his talk page (or rather, indicated that). If you have a comment about DS being not civil, let me know. --] <small>(])</small> 15:41, 12 July 2013 (UTC) | |||
| {{od}}DS is making accusations of hounding] calls me disruptive, he is indulging in base remarks on talk page considered controversial: "I have already added a little about how the Hindu right wing extremists are afraid of babies, It seems the facists are unable to get it up enough to pop out as many kids as their Muslim counterparts, that has also been cited as a reason for the mass rapes during these incidents, they are actually afraid that Muslims are more virile, and the rapes are done to prove they are not, prety sick heh." When discussion was sought on his talk page regarding his remarks, he refuses to discuss retorting in rude comments: "I have >< that much interest in your opinions." Attacks me at another place. We have had one editor being severely sanctioned for reacting to such provocation. I suggest that action against provocation be taken too. ] (]) 16:20, 12 July 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :The primary method in resolving a dispute is to discuss with the other party, I am surprised that you take DS's refusal to discuss a benign act, also Maunus' help to him in doing so. ] (]) 16:26, 12 July 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :::YK, if an editor banishes you from their talk page, you can't really discuss things with them. In that case you have take recourse to some other method of dispute resolution. If the dispute is on content, then use the article talk page. If it's on behavior, then you need to go to an admin or ANI or an RfC. It is unfortunate, but that's the way Misplaced Pages works. --] <small>(])</small> 17:27, 12 July 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ::One must wonder indeed why my comment, which BTW can be backed by the best sources, that the actions of child rapists and murders upset you so much? I myself find the subject distressing, as is obvious from various comments I make, and the fact that after seeing a photo of a child who had been raped, tortured and then killed tend to fuck me off, a lot. RP scuse the cussing. ] (]) 16:57, 12 July 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :::DS I'm glad you're talking. You've every right to be disgusted by whatever disgusts you. However Misplaced Pages and its talk pages are not the forum for expressing disgust. Doing so is abuse of editing privileges which tends to disrupt constructive editing work. Please undertake to desist from doing so. Also undertake to desist from making personal attacks. RP: if DS makes such an undertaking I'd be happy to leave this here, as I'm not a pro-sanctions fellow. ] (]) 17:22, 12 July 2013 (UTC) | |||
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== Mistaken revert == | ||
| Hi, while trying to revert vandalism at ], you accidentally added it back. Just noting this as I saw the IP reverting your edit while patrolling recent changes and I was surprised, but there's no need to revert it again. ] (] · ]) 10:05, 6 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| Remember a while ago I had as a nickname in my sig "Facts not Fiction"? FPaS asked me to lose it and I begrudgingly obliged. A "new"</sarc> account just popped up on my , obviously not a new account of course first edit edit, adds a POV tag. Second edit, adds a tag. By edit four he is removing content critical of and by edit number 7 he is adding tags. Anyhoo, I am posting this so should anyone say that this is a sockpuppet of mine (given the name) and that I am being incredibly devious by playing both sides of the fence, I am not and it ain't. ] (]) 10:31, 12 July 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :Quack. Best to ping Dennis or Salvio on this. --] <small>(])</small> 13:01, 12 July 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ::Dennis is faaaaar too busy - see ]. In fact, I'd appreciate your thoughts on my query raised there. - ] (]) 13:11, 12 July 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :::I did see that. I rarely close AfD discussions but would have thought that no discussion equals consensus to delete. I suppose the 'speedy renominate' means you can renominate the articles (which makes the close quite pointless). I'll ping the closer. --] <small>(])</small> 13:14, 12 July 2013 (UTC) | |||
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IP-range sock is back
Seems like the IP-sock of this blocked editor is back . I got a notification from Narky Blert. I'd like to request PP for these two articles , . Regards. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 12:25, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
- Seconded. This guy is an absolute pest who wastes a lot of volunteer DABfixers' time and effort by introducing or reintroducing bad links, and has been known to remove {{dn}} tags without fixing the problem. Narky Blert (talk) 15:40, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
- IP sock is back. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 17:43, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
- Another sock IP - . Have a look. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 12:56, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Fylindfotberserk: Just saw this. Let me know if this is still an issue. Also, I'm not getting email notifications when someone edits my talk page. I wonder why? RegentsPark (comment) 17:15, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- Actually found a new one while going through the last IP's edits , reverted them in one article . - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 18:14, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Fylindfotberserk: Just saw this. Let me know if this is still an issue. Also, I'm not getting email notifications when someone edits my talk page. I wonder why? RegentsPark (comment) 17:15, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- Another sock IP - . Have a look. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 12:56, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
- IP sock is back. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 17:43, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
Season's Greetings
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Season's Greetings | |
(Text on page 17 illustrated in the frontispiece in Juliana Horatia Ewing's Mary's Meadow and Other Tales of Fields and Flowers, illustrated by Mary Wheelhouse, London: G. Bell and Sons, 1915.) |
- @Fowler&fowler: Thanks Fowler. Hope 2025 is a good year for you. "Full of things that have never been" but, hopefully, good things! RegentsPark (comment) 17:25, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you @RegentsPark: for that nice quote from Rilke. I tried to find the fuller version and came up with this (middle of the page):
but am having a hard time figuring out the end of that sentence. I wonder if you have the German version. It is been a long time since I passed my German requirement in graduate school by the skin of my teeth, but perhaps I could run it through Google translate and see if they come up with the same.And now let us believe in a long year that is given to us, new, untouched, full of things that have never been, full of work that has never been done, full of tasks, claims, and demands; and let us see that we learn to take it without letting fall too much of what it has to bestow upon those who demand of it necessary, serious, and great things.
- Regardless, thanks for the nice words. I too hope the coming year will bring some unexpected but pleasant things for all of us. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 21:39, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- Or maybe @Joshua Jonathan and Austronesier: might have the original German source. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 21:40, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- I once had the collected works in pocket-format, but got rid of it a couple of decades ago... Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk! 04:22, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
- I still have the 6-vol. Insel edition of Rilke's works in my shelf, however this hasn't the letters in it. The German original text floats around in several web pages and goes:
Und nun wollen wir glauben an ein langes Jahr, das uns gegeben ist, neu, unberührt, voll nie gewesener Dinge, voll nie getaner Arbeit, voll Aufgabe, Anspruch und Zumutung; und wollen sehen, daß wirs nehmen lernen, ohne allzuviel fallen zu lassen von dem, was es zu vergeben hat, an die, die Notwendiges, Ernstes und Großes von ihm verlangen.
(I've verified it by means of Google Books snippets.) Wish you all wonderful holidays! –Austronesier (talk) 08:28, 24 December 2024 (UTC)- Thank you @Austronesier:. This exchange on Regents Park's page captures the spirit of my greeting card. It is a "rare privilege" indeed. The German text clarifies a little how it might be translated in simple English with the help of Google Translate: " in a long year that is given to us ... full of tasks, demands, and even unreasonable demands; and let us learn to accept them without letting go too much of what it has to give to those who demand the necessary, serious, and great things." It is not perfect, but it is at least in the form in which it can go into my commonplace book Fowler&fowler«Talk» 11:12, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
- I still have the 6-vol. Insel edition of Rilke's works in my shelf, however this hasn't the letters in it. The German original text floats around in several web pages and goes:
- I once had the collected works in pocket-format, but got rid of it a couple of decades ago... Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk! 04:22, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
- Or maybe @Joshua Jonathan and Austronesier: might have the original German source. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 21:40, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you @RegentsPark: for that nice quote from Rilke. I tried to find the fuller version and came up with this (middle of the page):
- A throwaway quote inspired this enjoyable exchange! Ah, the pleasures of Misplaced Pages! Unfortunately my German is limited to Nein andDas Boot and I'm forced to stick with English translations.RegentsPark (comment) 17:31, 25 December 2024 (UTC)
Happy Holidays
LukeEmily (talk) is wishing you Happy Holidays! This greeting (and season) promotes WikiLove and hopefully this note has made your day a little better. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user Happy Holidays, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Happy New Year!
Spread the cheer by adding {{subst:Happy holidays}} to their talk page with a friendly message.
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- Thank you @LukeEmily:. Best wishes for the holiday season to you and your loved ones and hope that 2025 turns out to be a great year! RegentsPark (comment) 16:29, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
Happy New Year, RegentsPark!
RegentsPark,
Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Misplaced Pages.
Dympies (talk) 01:08, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
Send New Year cheer by adding {{subst:Happy New Year fireworks}} to user talk pages.
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- Thanks @Dympies:, Happy New Year to you and your loved ones! --RegentsPark (comment) 17:41, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
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Mistaken revert
Hi, while trying to revert vandalism at Special:Diff/1267166374, you accidentally added it back. Just noting this as I saw the IP reverting your edit while patrolling recent changes and I was surprised, but there's no need to revert it again. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 10:05, 6 January 2025 (UTC)