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Thank you for music on the Main page to start a new year, - may it be happy for you! I wanted a Bach cantata there, with ] that first sounded OTD in 1725, but it landed OTD, as DYK had no room for it. Looking forward to doing things together, --] (]) 16:40, 1 January 2025 (UTC)


], my ] 300 years after the first performance, is up for GAN. ] will be my story tomorrow. --] (]) 21:04, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
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*Nice! Best of luck!&nbsp;—&nbsp;] (]) 21:05, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
*: Thank you! My ] is about a composer who influenced music history also by writing. --] (]) 09:49, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
*: Today a violinist from Turkey, ], whom you can watch playing Schubert chamber music --] (]) 21:48, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
*: ... and today, ], ], in memory of her first appearance on stage OTD in 1900, and of principal author ]. --] (]) 18:20, 14 January 2025 (UTC)
*::I saw that! I've been doing ] myself. Some interesting things happening.&nbsp;—&nbsp;] (]) 18:38, 14 January 2025 (UTC)
*::: Thanks for sharing! - Today I have ] (trumpeter, conductor) on the main page who worked closely with ] who became GA yesterday, - small world! To celebrate: mostly flowers pics from vacation ;) --] (]) 19:54, 20 January 2025 (UTC)


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::Go, go, go, Crisco!!] (]) 17:09, 16 May 2014 (UTC)
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For your (very brief) perusal: ]. The Liang family is always a great subject to study... Cheers, --] (]) 16:41, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
You may nominate any of the above. Please. I don't care for the glory, really. Just wan't to skip seeing that horrible thing.The more new nom, the better. ] ] (]) 21:48, 16 May 2014 (UTC)
*Thanks Hafs, I think the one that stands the best chance is '']'', but considering the current climate I don't want to nominate any nudes just yet. I've been holding back on ''Olympia'' as well.&nbsp;—&nbsp;] (]) 01:57, 17 May 2014 (UTC) *That's impressive, ]. I've been on a reprieve for a bit, but I was working on ] about Li Minghui (the daughter of ]). It's missing almost seventy years of her life, so I'm hoping that the resource exchange can get me a copy of her biography in the Shanghai Dictionary... oddly enough, the Chinese-language sources are almost entirely Sohu and other user-generated content. &nbsp;—&nbsp;] (]) 17:43, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
*:@] One should not expect great standards for Chinese-language sources. Chinese Misplaced Pages-equivalents are more or less of a wild west. Also be aware that the Shanghai Dictionary, being compiled by official committees, would only present people's biographies in politically suitable ways. I wish you luck! Cheers, --] (]) 01:42, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
::PRRSSKKHGG. Grssst, eh. What is wrong with nudes? 300 year old nudes? There is nothing wrong with that woman either, all that is just silly. ] (]) 01:59, 17 May 2014 (UTC)
::*I know, but I really don't want to strike up any more drama. Once the discussion's been closed down for a week or two, then I can schedule the Manet. ''Paris'' can follow (or you can nom, if you can get past the elephantitis image).&nbsp;—&nbsp;] (]) 02:02, 17 May 2014 (UTC) *::Yep, I expected as much. Unfortunately, English-language sources seem to have stopped looking into her past 1931, and Baidu ''claims'' that she was acting until 1938. State-sponsored sources are better than none at all, especially given that Li doesn't appear to have involved herself in politics all that much. &nbsp;—&nbsp;] (]) 02:17, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
No, I can't. Yuck. When will that disappear? Here trouble naked woman for you. ] ] (]) 02:04, 17 May 2014 (UTC)


== Your ] nomination of ] ==
*That's rather shocking, I must say. Shame the painting is so dirty. Curious as to what a good scan would look like.&nbsp;—&nbsp;] (]) 02:26, 17 May 2014 (UTC)
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::Ee, shocking? {{smiley}} ] (]) 02:30, 17 May 2014 (UTC)
::*The coloration gives a rather gritty realism to it, making it more raw than a lot of the idealized nudes we've featured.&nbsp;—&nbsp;] (]) 02:32, 17 May 2014 (UTC)
::Yes, it is. Clever of you to notice it. ] (]) 02:42, 17 May 2014 (UTC)
::How is going? Good luck... ] (]) 14:05, 17 May 2014 (UTC)


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*LOL. Shame that's oversharpened, a bit out of focus, and not used in any articles. That would be a fun FP.&nbsp;—&nbsp;] (]) 00:46, 18 May 2014 (UTC)
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: Holey moley your talk page is busy! The review is posted. -- ] (]) 18:38, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
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:: Congrats on the new GA! I've not put the icon on the article itself, just on the talk page. I've recently been told that the bots get confused if they can't put the template on the page themselves. If it's not there in a day, make sure to add it yourself. -- ] (]) 22:47, 20 May 2014 (UTC)
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Crisco, I just noticed that you reviewed the ] article, and flunked it for a variety of reasons, one of which was the Notable cases section. The creator has an article on ] currently in {{queue|4}} and due to hit the main page in four hours, and it has a "Notable offenders" section—a list rather than a table, and each offender is wikilinked to an article. If this is problematic, it will require an admin, so I thought you'd want to check to make sure this article doesn't have similar issues to the one you reviewed. Thanks. ] (]) 21:55, 17 May 2014 (UTC)
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*It looks a bit more reasonable than the one I refused, since referencing is considerably stronger.&nbsp;—&nbsp;] (]) 00:44, 18 May 2014 (UTC)
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:*Good to know, and glad you had a look at it before it went to the main page. Again, thank you. ] (]) 05:04, 18 May 2014 (UTC)
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::*Fram has weighed in; there's a post now on ]. There's also a new approval of another nom by this author, ], which seems to have many of the faults you raised when giving the orange X to ]. I think I'm going to put a hold on the China article so it doesn't get promoted until it can be given a closer look. ] (]) 00:52, 20 May 2014 (UTC)
:::*Agree. X China for now.&nbsp;—&nbsp;] (]) 01:13, 20 May 2014 (UTC)

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Hey, now. I found a picture of an American Cocker Spaniel, a dog that we need pictures of, in the co,mmons Category:Low quality dog pictures, and I figured we could do something with it if we are cropping it, not that bad.

Now the file is deleted and Phil got a template of a common admin, saying she violated copyright? Why? It looked like the persons own dog, or? She have just been accused of violating copyright by an admin over on ! when she only cropped it.
I wan't that dog back, if possible.

] (]) 16:25, 18 May 2014 (UTC)
*Is there a deletion request? Or did Phil forget to add the original image as the source?&nbsp;—&nbsp;] (]) 16:27, 18 May 2014 (UTC)
::I cropped it using the crop tool and then uploaded it as a new file, not over writing the original as the instructions tell you. I have asked the Commons Admin to rev/del it from as he/she appears to be admitting they hadn't looked at the original file. Do you think he/she will? ] - ] 16:33, 18 May 2014 (UTC)
::*Here's hoping...&nbsp;—&nbsp;] (]) 16:44, 18 May 2014 (UTC)
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And I wan't that dog back, if possible. This is not fair to Phil. And they deleted the original file too, what was wrong with that one? We need that picture. ] (]) 16:37, 18 May 2014 (UTC)
*What's the link to the original file?&nbsp;—&nbsp;] (]) 16:44, 18 May 2014 (UTC)
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::But, as you will notice, the original file is no good, needs cropping away the gras and stuff in front, top and to the left. Are we getting in trouble, or it again? (If the file can be saved...) ] (]) 16:51, 18 May 2014 (UTC)
::It would have been <nowiki>File:This is my male parti color American cocker I want to breed 2014-03-09 16-16.jpg</nowiki> - because I just cropped it, the same name was used but with (cropped) added. The link Lupo gave for it being a violation of was where a user with the same name as the commons uploader was looking for a mate for their dog, so it was probably their own picture! ] - ] 16:53, 18 May 2014 (UTC)
:::And it looks like they are refusing to rev/del it - it was their error. ] - ] 17:00, 18 May 2014 (UTC)
::How silly. Extremely silly, we just want to make use of a picture that it is to no use, that is most probably uploaded by the owner, and everything is deleted, original and the cropped and Phil gets kicked in the but, for no reason at all. Hope somebody appologized for her, at least. ] (]) 17:02, 18 May 2014 (UTC)
::* No, she got cold-shouldered, kind off. ] (]) 22:42, 18 May 2014 (UTC)
::*Was this REALLY a copright issue? ] (]) 23:51, 18 May 2014 (UTC)
:::*That's... odd. I don't have access to the file (not a Commons admin) but it looks like it was uploaded in the same time frame as the hoobly image and, barring proof that these are the same people, the precautionary principle recommends deletion. No comment on the bit about rev deleting the template.&nbsp;—&nbsp;] (]) 01:31, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
::Hm, Phil said that it could be the same person. As she said: where a user with the same name as the commons uploader was looking for a mate for their dog, so it was probably their own picture. But I guess it is gone now. ] (]) 01:40, 19 May 2014 (UTC)]
::*It could be, but previous publication requires an explicit release.&nbsp;—&nbsp;] (]) 01:42, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
Username on that webbsite was monkeyward, same as the uploader here. But I don't know where to find him/her. Oh, well, bad luck. ] (]) 01:44, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
*I'll put it this way; I could see someone with really good images on Flickr, register a Commons account using the same name, and upload his/her images as my own. That's probably not what happened here, but that's why Commons would need verification.&nbsp;—&nbsp;] (]) 01:47, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
::Yes. and it was a bad picture. Need cropping. ] (]) 02:11, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
::I am affraid she is not taking it well, and people down there are not exactly nice to her. ] (]) 16:54, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
::*{{U|Crisco 1492}}, Phil has not been online since this common - misstake. I am nervous. Definitly not like her. ] (]) 09:58, 20 May 2014 (UTC)
:::*I hope she's alright....&nbsp;—&nbsp;] (]) 10:08, 20 May 2014 (UTC)
::::::She is not alright. She is pissed and/or hurt. And who is going to make all that work she use to do, on the dog task ? I was not the one looking after recent changes on dog articles, it was her. I can already see some topics I would need her advice. Have you seen her talk on commons? ] (]) 10:12, 20 May 2014 (UTC)
::::::*I was thinking of non-Wikimedia reasons for her not to be online, and very few of them are good... that's what I was referring to.&nbsp;—&nbsp;] (]) 10:18, 20 May 2014 (UTC)
:::::Sigh. ] (]) 10:20, 20 May 2014 (UTC)
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*Now ''these'' are stunning. Very nice!&nbsp;—&nbsp;] (]) 10:35, 20 May 2014 (UTC)
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:Wow, they are nice images! Did you really mean to say I was drunk, Hafs? That's what 'pissed' means in the UK! It made me laugh anyway! ] - ] 05:10, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
:*Well, being pissed and having been hurt are not always separate, you know. ;) Glad to see you hanging around here (and yes, the images are great).&nbsp;—&nbsp;] (]) 05:14, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
::No, really, Phil. Well, as I said, I have learned English by hearing, as a child, from my relatives in USA. In the summers. Vacations. So... , actually never new that it meant alt1. Crisco, yes. And Crisco, and talk page stalkers, feel free to nominate Any picture I am posting at Crisco's, that is exactly the point with it, and I don't own them. ] (]) 10:49, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
:::And your English is far superior to any attempts I could make at Swedish or Indonesian! We have some very quaint ]s here - look at some of the synonyms . Anyway, the red mist has eventually cleared! ] - ] 11:20, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
::*Yes, indeed. (US, Canada, vulgar, colloquial) Annoyed, angry. ] (]) 11:29, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
:::*Pissed as a fart? Really? Sounds like a serious medical condition...&nbsp;—&nbsp;] (]) 11:32, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
::*{{smiley|5}}] (]) 12:04, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
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== Editwarring over flatlists ==

Sorry to bug you, but is there something you can do about {{user|TheSickBehemoth}} persistently removing {{tl|Flatlist}}s from the ] article? ]&nbsp;⚞]⚟ 04:49, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
:It's not edit warring (1 edit, 1 revert), and it's not following ]. ] (]) 04:51, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
:*], that looks absolutely terrible (check out the bullet starting a line in front of Jan Panzer). I'd definitely try and reach a consensus at WikiProject Biography or the template talk page before starting something like that.
::]: Agree that a single revert is not edit warring per ] (it calls for ''repeated'' reverts to be edit warring). However, not following ] is not breaking policy either, as template documentation is just that: documentation. We can include or exclude fields, or approach them as we want. In this case, however, I think the standard still looks better.&nbsp;—&nbsp;] (]) 05:35, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
:::Flatlists are for accessibility, not aesthetic, purposes, creating a semantic list—if it displays in an unaesthetic way on your browser, that's unfortunate (it displays fine on mine, not that that's the point). I'll take this to TheSickBehemoth's talk page. ]&nbsp;⚞]⚟ 06:22, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
:::*I figured as much, but we've got to remember that aesthetics are also a part of the article. Wouldn't {{t|Plain list}} work fine as well?&nbsp;—&nbsp;] (]) 07:26, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
:::**It might indeed. I'll ask the article's authors what they prefer. ]&nbsp;⚞]⚟ 07:31, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
:::::*Right. But, come to think of it, ] actually supports using commas as an alternative to the hlist bullets template... just realized we had this as part of the MOS.&nbsp;—&nbsp;] (]) 07:36, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
:::::**What's part of the MOS? ]&nbsp;⚞]⚟ 07:43, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
:::::***], which explicitly gives horizontal lists using commas as an example, is part of ].&nbsp;—&nbsp;] (]) 07:45, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
:::::****Sorry, I thought you were saying {{tld|Flatlist}} could be used with commas specified as separator—which could be an issue, anyways: imagine it were a list of publishers, and one was ]. ]&nbsp;⚞]⚟ 07:54, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
:::::*****Oh, I didn't realize the ambiguity of "supports" in my statement above. Anywho, hope this helps a little. I might stop by Ukiyo-e some time this week (assuming my schedule permits).&nbsp;—&nbsp;] (]) 07:56, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
:::::******That'd be swell—I've lost all perspective on the article. I'm leaving the lists up to Megadeth's nominator. That's an article that could use another pair of eyes, by the way... ]&nbsp;⚞]⚟ 08:26, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
:::::*******Has Gabe gotten there? Seems right up his alley.&nbsp;—&nbsp;] (]) 10:27, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
:::::******** So far I've been the only reviewer. Maybe I'll give him a ping. ]&nbsp;⚞]⚟ 10:37, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
:::::*********Thanks. I'll consider dropping by as well, though after Babe Ruth the thought of another 60k article makes me kinda queezy.&nbsp;—&nbsp;] (]) 10:41, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
:::::********** That's okay, I understand you need the time to give ukiyo-e a review, copyedit, and thorough source check. ]&nbsp;⚞]⚟ 11:38, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
:::::*********** And an image review. For all 55 files. ]&nbsp;⚞]⚟ 11:42, 19 May 2014 (UTC)

==Becchi==
Thank you, but just tell me what AGF means. I can assure you I don't plagiarise other people's writing. ] (]) 12:10, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
:*{{ping|Amandajm}} ] is the full description for Assuming Good Faith. - ] (]) 12:24, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
::*Right. And, in a DYK sense, it means "I am unable to check this, but I trust the nominator has not done anything against policy". It's standard for articles with offline and/or foreign language sources, as in many cases few editors would actually have access to said offline sources or the ability to read foreign-language ones.
:::Although for some reason I can't find this in any of the guideline pages related to DYK... sigh, those pages have been reshuffled so much...&nbsp;—&nbsp;] (]) 13:31, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
:::: ], ], thanks for the explanation! ] (]) 01:44, 20 May 2014 (UTC)

== Is it ==

::*Can I use this one ] on a talk page as an award? Or is it not fair use? start to get nervous about these picture uses. Also I feel bad, because I succeded to drag Phil into this circus on commons, because it was my idea about cropping that image. ] (]) 17:17, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
*The licensing looks fine. The ] warning is not a copyright.&nbsp;—&nbsp;] (]) 00:44, 20 May 2014 (UTC)

==]==
Hi there. This is a message for CasLiber, HamiltonStone, SturmVogel and Crisco. Thanks for your help and feeback re: the Singora article. It achieved FA status on Saturday.

I got a message today saying the article will now appear on Misplaced Pages's home page on June 4. This surprised me. I read somewhere that it usually takes several months for featured articles to make it to the home page.

I've cleaned things up a bit. CasLiber and Crisco noted that the section about Persians in 17th century Siam looked out of place. I've deleted this paragraph.

I've also re-jigged the lead and added:

*1. Alternative names / spellings to the Early History section.
*2. An explanatory note re: the foundation of the city in 1605.
*3. An explanatory note re: Sultan Sulaiman's declaration of independence in 1642.
*4. A second paragraph to the The forts at Khao Daeng section.

If you have time to briefly glance through it again, please do. I still feel the article can be improved prior to June 4.

Thanks again for your help. I've enjoyed doing this. I finished Oxford University almost exactly 30 years ago, so this has been an opportunity to cast aside some of the rust and dust that's built up over the years. Perhaps I'm not as good as I was, but I think I'm still just about okay!

I'll login from time to time. If you'd like a review, do please feel free to let me know.

] (]) 18:08, 19 May 2014 (UTC)


== A barnstar for you! == == A WAM Barnstar for you! ==


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*Thanks Schro. Always glad to help.&nbsp;—&nbsp;] (]) 00:37, 20 May 2014 (UTC)


== Gubby Allen... == == Air Mata Iboe ==


Hi, <nowiki>{{sfn|Soerabaijasch Handelsblad 1941, Sampoerna theater}}</nowiki> is undefined and causes a ]. If you could provide the missing source it would be appreciated. ] (]) 20:36, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
...is now at FAC ]. Any further comments gratefully received. ] (]) 19:25, 19 May 2014 (UTC)


== Lately at DYK == == Commane rvdeltion ==


Please see: ] ] (]) 21:49, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
Crisco, it would appear I've dissed a DYK Patriarch (unknowingly, but the fact remains), and compounded the fact by marking the submission for closure because no QPQ is forthcoming. I thought I'd give someone who's been around longer than I have, and might actually know this guy, a chance to donate a QPQ or something, so if you want to (or to contact someone who might), please feel free: ].


:can you please undo the delete? ] (]) 21:50, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
I'm not sure what should/can be done about ]—the neutrality warnings on the review template are dire and seemed to have merit behind them when I checked a while ago, but I couldn't figure out what to do (and have no interest in reviewing the nomination), so I'm hoping you can do something to break the logjam or wrap it up.
:*Hi ], I've reviewed the deleted material, and it is clearly in violation of our copyright policy. The very first sentence of the body is lifted wholesale from a previously published book.&nbsp;—&nbsp;] (]) 21:56, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
:*:There is no sentence. There are headings "Earl Given Names" and lists of names, date of birth and locations ] (]) 21:58, 6 January 2025 (UTC)


==DYK for Two Stars in the Milky Way==
I noticed you were one of the people (including myself) who were pinged by Drmies to close down the Poklonskaya nomination. This needs an admin at the least, if definitive action is going to be taken, given the experience level of the people participating and expressing strong opinions on its suitability for the main page. I'm assuming you're as reluctant as I am to get involved... ] (]) 23:04, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
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==DYK for Zhang Xinsheng (film)==
:*There's another nom by the same person as the Leftist errors article, ], which also ran into neutrality problems during the initial review, and has just been reviewed again, suggesting that it should be allowed to run. Perhaps having two data points will help in figuring out what to do. ] (]) 12:50, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
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==]==
::*It looks like the issues on the Montenegro DYK have been settled—I may need to put another "again" icon for the review to finally get its tick, though—which still leaves Leftist errors; the Pastila was formally rejected sometime in the past 24 hours. ] (]) 01:44, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
::*I think Leftist should be failed.&nbsp;—&nbsp;] (]) 02:16, 22 May 2014 (UTC)

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:Congrats! 🍕]🍕 (]) 10:41, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
== Song of Los ==
:*Thanks!&nbsp;—&nbsp;] (]) 11:37, 10 January 2025 (UTC)


==DYK for Lingnan School==
I don't think I did enough to be worth a restorer's credit. I just fixed a scanning artefact and adjusted levels a bit. <span style="text-shadow:grey 0.118em 0.118em 0.118em; class=texhtml">''']''' <sup>(])</sup></span> 17:01, 20 May 2014 (UTC)
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==FPD nomination == ==DYK for Wuju==
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I think this fit into criteria of Featured pic. I can not nominate it as i am active from mobile and its quite difficult to nominate from it. Can you nominate it? Regards and thanks -] (]) 20:04, 20 May 2014 (UTC)
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*Sadly, it is under the minimum size and the shadows are a bit harsh.&nbsp;—&nbsp;] (]) 23:39, 20 May 2014 (UTC)
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==DYK for The Valiant Girl White Rose==
== Your ] nomination of ]==
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== First GAR == == Two files ==


# ]: You seem to have missed to undelete the first revision of this file before transferring it. Looking at the history, it says that a bot has reduced the file, then a bot reduced the file a bit more and finally you reverted to the first bot reduced version, but the original full-size image is missing.
Hi Crisco- Trying to learn different skills here at Misplaced Pages... Did my first GAR for ]. I worry it is not detailed enough (as does the nominator). If you have a moment (and the article itself is not long) could you let me know the content areas which need to be expanded in my review. Your tutelage is appreciated...--] (]) 01:48, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
# ]: You removed ], claiming that there's no evidence that the book was published in 1929. However, if you click on the URL in the source field, it says {{tq|HOEL, Arthur. Bride of the Desert. New York: Jacobsen Publishing Co, (1929).}} Therefore, I suspect that it was published in 1929. --] (]) 21:13, 14 January 2025 (UTC)
*First question: are there more sources? Length does not necessarily equate depth. '']'' is barely longer than the tower article and it's featured.&nbsp;—&nbsp;] (]) 04:51, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
*Hi ]. For the Cher image, the earliest revision was fully deleted by ] on August 18, 2011. Consequently, it did not show up as a previous version in the history. I can upload it from history though.
**Thank you. I left a second round of comments in the review.--] (]) 08:21, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
***Alright. Don't be afraid to get in there and nitpick commas, BTW. Prose could use some massaging (a 28 miles (45.1 km) footpath, for instance, is ungrammatical).&nbsp;—&nbsp;] (]) 10:34, 21 May 2014 (UTC) :For the ''Bride'' image, that information should ideally have been on the page prior to submission for administerial review. Although the film was 1929, it is not automatically guaranteed that the novelization was released at the same time. &nbsp;—&nbsp;] (]) 22:09, 14 January 2025 (UTC)
:*Both items are now on Commons.&nbsp;—&nbsp;] (]) 22:13, 14 January 2025 (UTC)
:** Thanks!
::: I think that full deletion was the only way to delete old non-free revisions in the past and so all files reduced before some date had their old revisions removed by that method, whereas after that it changed so that they would usually be removed using the new method. Usually, it's useful to have all old revisions on Commons no matter which method the administrator used for revision deletion. --] (]) 22:27, 14 January 2025 (UTC)


== Helped == == Wu Suxin ==


Thanks for coming up with a wording in ] that we can agree on. When I saw that you'd reverted my good-faith (though snarkily explained) edit I was prepared to defend it, but you came up with something much better. I'm pleasantly surprised and sincerely grateful.
Now look what happens when I nominate something, now WHAT have I done???????????????????https://en.wikipedia.org/File:Jan_Brueghel_de_Oude_en_Peter_Paul_Rubens_-_Het_aards_paradijs_met_de_zondeval_van_Adam_en_Eva.jpg ] (]) 13:05, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
I wanted to nominate this picture for FP, and I messed up the file?? HOW ?? ]
] (]) 13:09, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
:{{U|Hafspajen}}, I ''may'' have fixed it, well at least there aren't a bunch of images there now. You may still have to clean it up a little. --]<sup>(]) </sup> 13:16, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
::POOOOHHHHugh. I am not a master of nominations... Thanks, K-stick! ] (]) 13:17, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
::Me either, but if you want I can delete the local history and you you can try again. --]<sup>(]) </sup>
::OK. thanks. ] (]) 13:22, 21 May 2014 (UTC)


I will say this, though: Although "oeuvre" has been adopted into English, it is still obviously a French word, and more important, it still ''looks'' like a foreign word. I'm pretty sure at least half of the world's readers of English—especially those whose only language is English—wouldn't know what it means. When they encountered it, they'd either have to guess what it means from the context, or consult a dictionary, or just skip past it. In any case, it would have disrupted their reading, something we don't want to do unnecessarily.
*Hafs, how did you manage that? Did you go to ] and follow the instructions?&nbsp;—&nbsp;] (]) 13:31, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
::Don't know... (think I put the file name in the box...) Well, so far, so good. ]. But it is not there again. ] (]) 13:33, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
::*Oh, that's my fault. I put it under the wrong title.&nbsp;—&nbsp;] (]) 13:37, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
::What was I doing wrong?
] (]) 14:08, 21 May 2014 (UTC)


I was prepared to substitute your first correction, "body of work" (which you mentioned in the explanation of your edit reinstating "oeuvre"), for "oeuvre", because more readers of English would understand what "body of work" means than would as easily understand what "oeuvre" means, and imparting information is our most important responsibility. But brevity shines like gold (and obviously is not a virtue I have), so I congratulate and thank you for your excellent resolution. ] (]) 03:00, 15 January 2025 (UTC)
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*Thanks, 38. I do try and figure out a middle-point. You had a good point about "extant", both at Wu's article and at ''Valiant'', and although I personally feel that oeuvre is a fairly well understood loan word (similar to premiere and coup d'état) I appreciate that my own background probably informs that perspective. I agree that the new wording is much better; it keeps it brief while still referring to the entirety of her body of work.&nbsp;—&nbsp;] (]) 11:47, 15 January 2025 (UTC)


==DYK for Mingxing==
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==DYK for Fate in Tears and Laughter (film)==
* '''Support as nominator''' – ] (]) 13:01, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
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== Fuzhou Road ==
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Nice to see a familiar road here - used to pass by ] a lot while going to ] or ]. I do have a question though: Given that Google Maps doesn't exactly have the most updated information regarding places in China, wouldn't it be more accurate to use alternative & perhaps more updated map sources like Baidu Maps, Amap or OSM for the "Description" section? (Especially the "As of 2025" part) ]<sup>]</sup> 08:32, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
*To be completely honest, I don't know. This is my first road article, and I was mainly interested due to its historic role in the publication industry. I did pull up OSM, and the one-way stipulation is there as well - though it doesn't show the little hook at the end, and neither do our maps of Shanghai on Commons. I'll nix that part.&nbsp;—&nbsp;] (]) 12:44, 19 January 2025 (UTC)


== Cocoa and Coffee craters ==
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*First and foremost, that's the wrong page. Second, you didn't add a colon in front of the "file" in the title, giving you that huge image. The smaller image above it was the file coming through from Commons, and the smaller one below it was your actual nomination. I'm curious how you managed this, to be honest.&nbsp;—&nbsp;] (]) 16:10, 21 May 2014 (UTC)


Hi, I just wanted to let you know that ] and ] are at GAN if you're interested in reviewing them. I probably won't be bringing those articles to FAC due to the lack of information about those volcanoes, but ] is looking more promising. ''']]''' 22:25, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
*Those are some interesting names! I'll think about it, but no promises.&nbsp;—&nbsp;] (]) 23:14, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
*:I moved the draft for Eve Cone into its article last night and also nominated it for GA. ''']]''' 16:33, 20 January 2025 (UTC)


==DYK for Rain of Flowers Along the Silk Road==
Now they want to delete this one. ], the one I nominated... Is it because I made a mess of it? ] (]) 16:09, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
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:*Passes what? I think that is a good image, I don't want that deleted. ] (]) 16:17, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
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::*{{tps}} Just the local description page will be deleted, which is empty anyway. The file will remain on Commons. "Passes" in this context means, that the community decides the images is at FP level, and it's promoted. ] <sup>]</sup> 16:22, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
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:::*Was it that I put the file name into the list box that made it all empty? ] (]) 16:24, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
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::::*Yes, the name of the nomination should be added in the box after "Misplaced Pages:Featured picture candidates/" and it shouldn't replace it. ] <sup>]</sup> 16:26, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
::But that image was used in several articles, why isn't it HERE, whaterer >HERE means. It looked quite here to me. ] (]) 16:29, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
this is good picture and how am I going to nominate it now. ] (]) 16:30, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
::*The image appears at WP:FPC and on its nomination (]).&nbsp;—&nbsp;] (]) 16:31, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
::Is there several images or what. I don't like things i don't understand. ] (]) 16:32, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
::*There's just the one image (on Commons) which is used on several pages (including your nomination). The image you nominated is the one which you linked to above; same image. We just need to keep an eye on it and see how it does at FPC. I need to hit the sack now, but I'll try and answer any further questions in the morning.&nbsp;—&nbsp;] (]) 16:41, 21 May 2014 (UTC)


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::Now I hope that my last two nominations are OK. ] (]) 01:23, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
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::*More or less. You filled out some fields wrong though.&nbsp;—&nbsp;] (]) 08:37, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
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Crisco, I just saw this DYK of yours in {{prep|1}}'s quirky spot, and was curious enough about the hook to take a look at the article. The article has "civilised" in quotes, but the hook did not, so I added quotes around the word in the hook. Please let me know if this is a problem. Thanks. ] (]) 13:24, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
*I didn't think the quotes were necessary for a single word in that context (note that the main article has civilised in scare quotes and the rest paraphrased).&nbsp;—&nbsp;] (]) 13:28, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

:*I hadn't thought of those as scare quotes, but as precision, showing that this was the actual word used ("beschaafd"). ] (]) 21:35, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
::*Alright. Anyways, the quotes are fine in the hook.&nbsp;—&nbsp;] (]) 00:16, 22 May 2014 (UTC)

== Your ] nomination of ]==
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== ] ==

Crisco, I'd greatly appreciate it if you could take a look at this one. While I may think I was justified in what I did, I could be very wrong (or enough wrong), and I'd prefer that it was given a second look by an experienced DYK reviewer who's also an admin. I can't remember whether this is someone you have issues with; if so, then by all means feel free to decline, or give me your thoughts here rather than there. Many thanks. ] (]) 21:21, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

:Thanks. BTW, we're overdue for a main page swap-out with DYK. I've just posted to the DYK talk page, but if no one else has already seen it, do you think you might be able to promote? Much appreciated. ] (]) 00:39, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
:*Will try, assuming Chrome doesn't freeze up on me (I'm running ] right now, which is very memory intensive)&nbsp;—&nbsp;] (]) 00:51, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
::*Or not. Materialscientist got it.&nbsp;—&nbsp;] (]) 00:52, 22 May 2014 (UTC)

==DYK for Soeara Berbisa==
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== Opinion on pictures and FPC ==
]
I have been fascinated by the FPC process for a while and after the excavation at the ], Commons attained a couple of on the event. I'm wondering if any of them have a chance of surviving a round at the process. More so ]. ] 02:12, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
*We can work with a couple of these. I could edit ] to close-to FPC quality; what time was it taken, though? That's awfully dark for a desert. ] has less of a chance, I think, in part owing to the prominent copyrighted covers.&nbsp;—&nbsp;] (]) 02:18, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
**I'm not entirely sure when the first photo was taken. It says it was taken in November and it appears that there was an overcast during the time it was taken. Also, you have a point about the second photo. Forgot all about the issue of copyright thanks in part to copyright. Just thought it was a pretty cool shot. ] 02:48, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
***It also says the time was a little past midnight. The clock on the camera is clearly wrong; that's way too far south for a midnight sun. I'll try playing with it and upload it separately. PTGui is still running, so my computer is a little slow.&nbsp;—&nbsp;] (]) 03:01, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
****], I've uploaded the edit. I could probably knock down the exposure a little bit, if you think it's necessary.&nbsp;—&nbsp;] (]) 03:51, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
*****I think the exposure is all right as it is. So, when I put it up for nomination, would I have to nominate the original and the new one you cleaned up? Also, I'm reading the criteria and I'm not entirely sure about #5. If the old was replaced with the updated version, there's no need for the seven day wait period? ] 04:12, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
******There shouldn't be any need.&nbsp;—&nbsp;] (]) 05:21, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
One last question before I throw caution to the wind and nominate the picture. What category would it be part of? I want to say "Culture & Lifestyle" but I'm not fully certain. ] 19:12, 22 May 2014 (UTC)

== Canadian Eskimo Dog ==

Hi Crisco, would you mind having a very quick look at ], please? I'm a little worried about sourcing and possible BLP concerns with the Controversies section. Two of the paragraphs of the Brian Ledoon section are unsourced - other refs used there seem to be a blog, weirdanswers.com, imdb, urbanlegends and costabotes is a circular ref back to weirdanswers. I also think PETA would have to be used with caution as it is an animal rights activist organisation? Or are my concerns unfounded? ] - ] 08:30, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
*That is the biggest "ugh" I've seen today. Nuked.&nbsp;—&nbsp;] (]) 08:35, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
::Thanks! I don't know how I missed it when it was put in a couple of weeks ago as I only stumbled on it after a minor IP edit. BLP issues in dog breed articles - whatever next? ] - ] 08:44, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
::*I wouldn't be surprised if it was common. The Vick incident a few years back probably caused some real headaches.&nbsp;—&nbsp;] (]) 08:48, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
::::I hadn't even heard of that incident - must have been big news in the States at the time though. ] - ] 09:05, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
::::*Yeah. It was nasty.&nbsp;—&nbsp;] (]) 09:07, 22 May 2014 (UTC)

== "and other Shinto traditions?" ==

I don't have a source to back it up, but it was explained to me that cremation is a Buddhist thing, and the traditional Shinto thing is to roll the body up in a barrel-like thing for burial—this is rare today, though. Apparently cremation did not become common until the 20th century, although if you told that to the average Japanese they'd be surprised. Today, people tend to follow Buddhist rites for death-related things (funerals, family tombstone visits, etc) and Shinto for life-related things (celebrating a birth, shrine visits at New Year's)—even though most Japanese are not particularly religious (if at all). It's all very confusing, and your average Japanese is not very helpful in explaining it. ]&nbsp;⚞]⚟ 09:07, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
*Hence why the text is hidden. :D The two paragraphs were just to have a general overview which we can source. We don't need to go too in-detail, but this is all important for the average reader. I had never heard of kegare before, that's for sure.&nbsp;—&nbsp;] (]) 09:09, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
**Y'learn something new all the time—I'd thought ''kegare'' was just a less-common synonym for ''yogore'' or ''kitanai'' (two words for "dirty" written with the same Chinese character as ''kegare''). The skipping of the New Year's postcords was always explained to me as "medetaku nai kara" (roughly "because there's nothing to feel happy about (celebrate?)"—the dictionary gives "because it's inauspicious", but it's not anything as pompous-sounding a thing to say as that). My experience is that few Japanese have much depth of knowledge of their own traditions, even everyday ones. ]&nbsp;⚞]⚟ 10:50, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
***Which wouldn't surprise me at all (we probably have just as good of an understanding about Canadian traditions). My wife cracked up when I told her that KFC was traditional Japanese Christmas food, BTW (there's a scene where the the main character, his boss, and his coworker eat fried chicken together at Christmas; luckily no Colonel).&nbsp;—&nbsp;] (]) 10:58, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
****Ha! They even dress the Colonel up as Santa Claus. They actually do serve turkey at KFC at Christmas (at least some years), but it's only smoked turkey legs (tastes like ham...blecch)<br />wp.ja says that the original author was opposed to the adaptation (didn't like the script), and told the director to make a different work about the subject instead. I've been looking for the source of the quote, but it looks like evey blog in Japan has decided to quote wp.ja on it. That's assuming the original quote was ever online. The article also claims there was a comic adaptation. There's a dead link that gives box office revenues of ¥6.46 billion. ]&nbsp;⚞]⚟ 11:12, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
****And the comic adaptation. Just gotta find a proper source. ]&nbsp;⚞]⚟ 11:13, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
*****Well, that's enough for ''existence''. I'll add that to the article soon as part of the release/adaptations section.&nbsp;—&nbsp;] (]) 11:33, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
******While we're at it, it appears the tie-in manga was released earlier than the film. At least, if we can trust Amazon comments as a starting point.&nbsp;—&nbsp;] (]) 11:43, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
*******The serialization apparently ended a month before the film was released, but somehow the artist got the chance to see the film ''before'' he started drawing it. ]&nbsp;⚞]⚟ 11:47, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
********Says "script", at least in your addition. It's reasonable that he could have read the script and hear the music.&nbsp;—&nbsp;] (]) 11:48, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
*********No, he agreed to take on the adaptation after seeing the script, and then viewed the actual film before starting to draw, at which point he decided to make changes. ]&nbsp;⚞]⚟ 12:04, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
**********Alright. We might want to add that. Do you want me to pause so you can do that without edit conflicts, or can I play with the review section some more?&nbsp;—&nbsp;] (]) 12:07, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
***********No, I'm going to bed now. I've got an oral exam over the phone early tomorrow morning. Just reword it however you think gets the point across. ]&nbsp;⚞]⚟ 12:12, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
************Best of luck with that. Alright, I'll work with what I can get easy access to for now (though we'll be going out for STMJ () soon.&nbsp;—&nbsp;] (]) 12:16, 22 May 2014 (UTC)

*I got myself all excited—I came across a 26-page academic paper published at Fukuoka University. The entire first page is a summing up of how the book came to be adapted&nbsp;... but it begins with "according to Misplaced Pages" (and quotes that quote I was looking for&nbsp;... from Misplaced Pages)&nbsp;... ]&nbsp;⚞]⚟ 05:50, 23 May 2014 (UTC)
:*That's not, necessarily, enough to rule it out entirely. Anything original that could be used? Any actual RSes cited?&nbsp;—&nbsp;] (]) 07:10, 23 May 2014 (UTC)
:** There might be something in there, but "Misplaced Pages" pops up with alraming frequency in it&nbsp;... including all the background material on Aoki &nbsp;... ]&nbsp;⚞]⚟ 07:18, 23 May 2014 (UTC)
:::*Good point. We shouldn't use it.&nbsp;—&nbsp;] (]) 09:22, 23 May 2014 (UTC)
* When you saw the movie, was it dubbed or subbed? ]&nbsp;⚞]⚟ 06:01, 23 May 2014 (UTC)
**Subbed. I refuse to watch dubs of Japanese films (or most other foreign-language films, for that matter).&nbsp;—&nbsp;] (]) 07:10, 23 May 2014 (UTC)
***I was wondering, because I'm getting hte impression there was no dubbed version, but I can't find that stated anywhere. ]&nbsp;⚞]⚟ 07:18, 23 May 2014 (UTC)
****Maybe in the English sourcs. I'm still doing some images as a favour for a friend, but hopefully this evening I can buckle down with the article.&nbsp;—&nbsp;] (]) 09:22, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

== Files ==

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::*By the way, the description for these files should be: Stravinsky fountain Centre Pompidou, Paris. ]] ] (]) 17:40, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
:::*Done.&nbsp;—&nbsp;] (]) 09:41, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
::Thanks, Crisco. Well, am I going to scare away everybody by doing badly formatted nominations? I might be stupid att doing noms, and a newbegginer, but the pictures are fine... ] (]) 09:56, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
::*Yes, the pictures are great. There shouldn't be anybody scared away.&nbsp;—&nbsp;] (]) 09:56, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
:::*Thanks. Not that is directly a rush for voting for them... ] (]) 09:57, 22 May 2014 (UTC)

==WP:GO Question==
Just curious as to why you from the Week of May 18th edition of "Goings-On". - <small style="white-space:nowrap;border:1px solid #900;padding:1px;">] • ] • 12:41, 22 May 2014 (UTC)</small>
*I seemed to remember that GO was for content that had been promoted in the past 3 days, but apparently I was mistaken.&nbsp;—&nbsp;] (]) 12:46, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
**No worries. :) - <small style="white-space:nowrap;border:1px solid #900;padding:1px;">] • ] • 12:56, 22 May 2014 (UTC)</small>

== 2 G6s ==

Could you do 2 G6 speedy deletions for me at ] and ]? Thanks. ] <sup>]</sup> 12:53, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
*Y got one, I got another.&nbsp;—&nbsp;] (]) 14:03, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
**Thanks, but unfortunately Y left the talk page behind. See ]. ] <sup>]</sup> 14:13, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
***Mike got that one.&nbsp;—&nbsp;] (]) 00:15, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

== By the way... ==

You said there were 3 editors with inappropriate sigs...you might want to advise them of how the AN closed, and report them if they don't change their sig <small><span style="border:1px solid black;padding:1px;">]</span></small> 00:25, 23 May 2014 (UTC)
*I believe I said "a couple", as in two, that I've seen. I'll mention this to the other one.&nbsp;—&nbsp;] (]) 00:38, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

== ] ==

Hey, do you think I can borrow you for the last section (History) ? ] has been reviewing a lot of the content, but I noticed on his Talk page that he's sick and I don't want to bother him. You'll see the content is very positive and includes an unusual number of awards and whatnot, but I am just following the sources, I swear! After that all that's left is the Lead and I should be able to nominate it for GA. The GA reviewer will of course point out how promotional it is, and I expect to go through "that" song and dance again ;-)

BTW - I am also asking around (maybe forum shopping, I suppose) for editors to participate on the ] page (see BLPN discussion . I bring it up because, from my perspective, the BLP issues on the page are severe enough to warrant some degree of urgency. ] (]) 01:35, 23 May 2014 (UTC)
*Ugh, the Butts article is a mess. Did you see those "a source", several sources? Ugh.&nbsp;—&nbsp;] (]) 01:55, 23 May 2014 (UTC)
::Take a look at the sources... ] (]) 03:14, 23 May 2014 (UTC)
::*I'm doing that. I'm trying to actually give proper attribution, which is necessary for NPOV.&nbsp;—&nbsp;] (]) 03:16, 23 May 2014 (UTC)
:::I meant because the sources are mostly op-eds and primary sources. There seems to be a general consensus that is basically better and more in-line with the direction the article needs to head, however without bold editing on an article where editors have strong opinions, it could take quite a while to get a strong version in place, whereas I feel severe BLP issues like this should be handled with some degree of urgency. ] (]) 13:39, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

== List of Major League Baseball players with unidentified given names ==

Due to the lack of input, as opposed to a flawed list, you closed ]. Would you be opposed to just moving it to the top of ] instead of opening a new candidate page? ] (]) 01:38, 23 May 2014 (UTC)
*Yes, I would be opposed. It needs to be renominated (i.e. using a new nomination) after two weeks or more. Not sooner. People might be willing to review the list if you reviewed others, so that's something you can work on.&nbsp;—&nbsp;] (]) 01:48, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

== DYK noms ==

Crisco, I'm going to be with family starting tomorrow for the long weekend, and access will likely be spotty (if I have free time at all). I'm hoping you can help me with a couple of outstanding issues that I don't think I'm going to have time to finish up on. Many thanks.

The first is ]. As it has sources in Indonesian, particularly one Soman was pointing me to that I was hoping to hand it off to you, since Google translate is quite rough and missing the detail I would need. The "cadre" issue has been solved by Soman changing the wording—I'd never run into the word applying to a single person, and found its use confusing—but there's an "if...then" structure to the final sentence that I'm not sure is warranted. I imagine you'll be able to tell. At any rate, I hope you don't mind my leaving the final disposition of this to you.

The other one was a call from Drmies on ] with a query about the newest ALT hook, which I'm hoping you can take for me.

There have been a couple of nominations I'd been meaning to commend to your attention, since they've been sitting there for a while. One is an April Fools candidate, ]. The other is ], where a significant portion of the 5x expansion is in the Notes section, rather than the intro and body; I imagine you've dealt with these issues before. ] (]) 03:41, 23 May 2014 (UTC)
*I'll try and deal with that later today. Hope I don't forget.&nbsp;—&nbsp;] (]) 07:09, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

== Cropping Kelpie ==

Hi Crisco, I've been trying to crop of artwork using the Commons tool. I'm trying to get rid of the white space/text and whenever I try it, the tool is cutting the image off below her feet despite having the selection correct. Can you tell me why that's happening and what I'm doing wrong, please? ] - ] 12:35, 23 May 2014 (UTC)
*Commons tool? I'm unfamiliar with that. I usually download and crop in my own software.&nbsp;—&nbsp;] (]) 12:38, 23 May 2014 (UTC)
::I mean this thing - (although Hafs has had problems getting it to work!) ] - ] 12:46, 23 May 2014 (UTC)
::*I have no idea how that thing works. If you want, I can crop this and upload it for you.&nbsp;—&nbsp;] (]) 12:49, 23 May 2014 (UTC)
::::That would be brilliant, if you wouldn't mind ''''. ] - ] 12:58, 23 May 2014 (UTC)
::::*Alright. I'll even straighten it for you.&nbsp;—&nbsp;] (]) 13:45, 23 May 2014 (UTC)
::::::Can you remove the moustache? as now it rather looks like Conchita. ], I mean. ] (]) 13:59, 23 May 2014 (UTC)
::::::*Based on the halftoning, I think that's part of the original print.&nbsp;—&nbsp;] (]) 14:03, 23 May 2014 (UTC)
::::::::Wow, Crisco - that is ace! Thank you, it looks so much better! ] - ] 14:15, 23 May 2014 (UTC)
::::::::*Always glad to help.&nbsp;—&nbsp;] (]) 14:18, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

== Your ] nomination of ]==
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==DYK for Harta Berdarah==
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== Bharat Ratna: Article or List? ==

As you are a FL admin, if you get some time, can you please opine ]? - ] <small style="font-size:85%;">(])</small> 14:30, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

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DYK for Sing-Song Girl Red Peony

On 1 January 2025, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Sing-Song Girl Red Peony, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the titular songstress in Sing-Song Girl Red Peony, a contender for China's first sound film, was overdubbed by a man? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Sing-Song Girl Red Peony. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Sing-Song Girl Red Peony), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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story · music · places

Thank you for music on the Main page to start a new year, - may it be happy for you! I wanted a Bach cantata there, with trumpet fanfares that first sounded OTD in 1725, but it landed OTD, as DYK had no room for it. Looking forward to doing things together, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:40, 1 January 2025 (UTC)

Liebster Immanuel, Herzog der Frommen, BWV 123, my story today 300 years after the first performance, is up for GAN. Dada Masilo will be my story tomorrow. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:04, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

DYK for An Amorous History of the Silver Screen: Shanghai Cinema, 1896–1937

On 2 January 2025, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article An Amorous History of the Silver Screen: Shanghai Cinema, 1896–1937, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that An Amorous History of the Silver Screen, an exploration of more than four decades of film in China, argues that cinema is a "modern folk tale"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/An Amorous History of the Silver Screen: Shanghai Cinema, 1896–1937. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, An Amorous History of the Silver Screen: Shanghai Cinema, 1896–1937), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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Your GA nomination of Zheng Zhegu

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DYK for Chen Dingshan

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Misplaced Pages:Featured picture candidates/Self-Portrait (Ellen Thesleff)

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DYK for Civilized drama

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Z1720 (talk) 00:02, 3 January 2025 (UTC)

DYK for The King of Comedy Visits Shanghai

On 3 January 2025, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article The King of Comedy Visits Shanghai, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that The King of Comedy Visits Shanghai depicted Charlie Chaplin in China fourteen years before it happened? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/The King of Comedy Visits Shanghai. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, The King of Comedy Visits Shanghai), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Z1720 (talk) 12:03, 3 January 2025 (UTC)

Happy new year!

For your (very brief) perusal: Liang Lingxian. The Liang family is always a great subject to study... Cheers, --The Lonely Pather (talk) 16:41, 4 January 2025 (UTC)

  • That's impressive, TheLonelyPather. I've been on a reprieve for a bit, but I was working on a draft about Li Minghui (the daughter of Li Jinhui). It's missing almost seventy years of her life, so I'm hoping that the resource exchange can get me a copy of her biography in the Shanghai Dictionary... oddly enough, the Chinese-language sources are almost entirely Sohu and other user-generated content.  — Chris Woodrich (talk) 17:43, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
    @Crisco 1492 One should not expect great standards for Chinese-language sources. Chinese Misplaced Pages-equivalents are more or less of a wild west. Also be aware that the Shanghai Dictionary, being compiled by official committees, would only present people's biographies in politically suitable ways. I wish you luck! Cheers, --The Lonely Pather (talk) 01:42, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
    Yep, I expected as much. Unfortunately, English-language sources seem to have stopped looking into her past 1931, and Baidu claims that she was acting until 1938. State-sponsored sources are better than none at all, especially given that Li doesn't appear to have involved herself in politics all that much.  — Chris Woodrich (talk) 02:17, 5 January 2025 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Zheng Zhegu

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DYK for An Amorous History of the Silver Screen

On 5 January 2025, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article An Amorous History of the Silver Screen, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that An Amorous History of the Silver Screen has been read as a biographic metafilm, paralleling its lead's rise from prostitution into film stardom? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/An Amorous History of the Silver Screen. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, An Amorous History of the Silver Screen), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

RoySmith (talk) 00:02, 5 January 2025 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Black Slave's Cry to Heaven

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Your GA nomination of Black Slave's Cry to Heaven

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DYK for Black Slave's Cry to Heaven

On 5 January 2025, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Black Slave's Cry to Heaven, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the first modern Chinese play was based on an American novel and staged in Tokyo? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Black Slave's Cry to Heaven. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Black Slave's Cry to Heaven), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

♠PMC♠ (talk) 12:02, 5 January 2025 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Featured picture candidates/Pipa

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A WAM Barnstar for you!

Misplaced Pages Asian Month 2024 contest
Crisco 1492 Thank you for your additions in Misplaced Pages Asian Month 2024.19 of your articles have been accepted. Warm Regards, ZI Jony 18:38, 5 January 2025 (UTC)

Air Mata Iboe

Hi, {{sfn|Soerabaijasch Handelsblad 1941, Sampoerna theater}} is undefined and causes a Category:Harv and Sfn no-target errors. If you could provide the missing source it would be appreciated. DuncanHill (talk) 20:36, 5 January 2025 (UTC)

Commane rvdeltion

Please see: Talk:Commane#Copyright violation Kellycrak88 (talk) 21:49, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

can you please undo the delete? Kellycrak88 (talk) 21:50, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

DYK for Two Stars in the Milky Way

On 8 January 2025, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Two Stars in the Milky Way, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the soundtrack of Two Stars in the Milky Way (scene pictured), one of the few surviving early Chinese films, has been lost? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Two Stars in the Milky Way. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Two Stars in the Milky Way), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

RoySmith (talk) 12:02, 8 January 2025 (UTC)

DYK for Zhang Xinsheng (film)

On 9 January 2025, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Zhang Xinsheng (film), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the 1923 film Zhang Xinsheng featured close-up views of internal organs? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Zhang Xinsheng (film). You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Zhang Xinsheng (film)), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

1=Launchballer 00:52, 9 January 2025 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Featured picture candidates/The Tailor (Moroni)

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Promotion of Beauty Revealed

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Congrats! 🍕BP!🍕 (🔔) 10:41, 10 January 2025 (UTC)

DYK for Lingnan School

On 10 January 2025, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Lingnan School, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the Chinese Lingnan School faced condemnation during the Second Sino-Japanese War, even as it spread anti-Japanese messages? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Lingnan School. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Lingnan School), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

RoySmith (talk) 12:02, 10 January 2025 (UTC)

DYK for Wuju

On 13 January 2025, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Wuju, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the Chinese theatre dance known as wuju blends influences of ballet and traditional opera? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Wuju. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Wuju), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

♠PMC♠ (talk) 00:03, 13 January 2025 (UTC)

DYK for The Valiant Girl White Rose

On 14 January 2025, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article The Valiant Girl White Rose, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the "white rose" in The Valiant Girl White Rose refers to both its star and character, but neither share a name? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/The Valiant Girl White Rose. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, The Valiant Girl White Rose), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

RoySmith (talk) 00:03, 14 January 2025 (UTC)

Two files

  1. File:Cher am i blue.jpg: You seem to have missed to undelete the first revision of this file before transferring it. Looking at the history, it says that a bot has reduced the file, then a bot reduced the file a bit more and finally you reverted to the first bot reduced version, but the original full-size image is missing.
  2. File:Bride of the Desert.jpg: You removed Category:Copy to Wikimedia Commons with hidden file revisions, claiming that there's no evidence that the book was published in 1929. However, if you click on the URL in the source field, it says HOEL, Arthur. Bride of the Desert. New York: Jacobsen Publishing Co, (1929). Therefore, I suspect that it was published in 1929. --Stefan2 (talk) 21:13, 14 January 2025 (UTC)
  • Hi Stefan2. For the Cher image, the earliest revision was fully deleted by Skier Dude on August 18, 2011. Consequently, it did not show up as a previous version in the history. I can upload it from history though.
For the Bride image, that information should ideally have been on the page prior to submission for administerial review. Although the film was 1929, it is not automatically guaranteed that the novelization was released at the same time.  — Chris Woodrich (talk) 22:09, 14 January 2025 (UTC)
I think that full deletion was the only way to delete old non-free revisions in the past and so all files reduced before some date had their old revisions removed by that method, whereas after that it changed so that they would usually be removed using the new method. Usually, it's useful to have all old revisions on Commons no matter which method the administrator used for revision deletion. --Stefan2 (talk) 22:27, 14 January 2025 (UTC)

Wu Suxin

Thanks for coming up with a wording in Wu Suxin that we can agree on. When I saw that you'd reverted my good-faith (though snarkily explained) edit I was prepared to defend it, but you came up with something much better. I'm pleasantly surprised and sincerely grateful.

I will say this, though: Although "oeuvre" has been adopted into English, it is still obviously a French word, and more important, it still looks like a foreign word. I'm pretty sure at least half of the world's readers of English—especially those whose only language is English—wouldn't know what it means. When they encountered it, they'd either have to guess what it means from the context, or consult a dictionary, or just skip past it. In any case, it would have disrupted their reading, something we don't want to do unnecessarily.

I was prepared to substitute your first correction, "body of work" (which you mentioned in the explanation of your edit reinstating "oeuvre"), for "oeuvre", because more readers of English would understand what "body of work" means than would as easily understand what "oeuvre" means, and imparting information is our most important responsibility. But brevity shines like gold (and obviously is not a virtue I have), so I congratulate and thank you for your excellent resolution. 38.49.72.163 (talk) 03:00, 15 January 2025 (UTC)

  • Thanks, 38. I do try and figure out a middle-point. You had a good point about "extant", both at Wu's article and at Valiant, and although I personally feel that oeuvre is a fairly well understood loan word (similar to premiere and coup d'état) I appreciate that my own background probably informs that perspective. I agree that the new wording is much better; it keeps it brief while still referring to the entirety of her body of work. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 11:47, 15 January 2025 (UTC)

DYK for Mingxing

On 18 January 2025, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Mingxing, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the Mingxing Film Company (logo pictured) paid off a gangster so that it could release Fate in Tears and Laughter? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Mingxing. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Mingxing), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 00:02, 18 January 2025 (UTC)

DYK for Fate in Tears and Laughter (film)

On 18 January 2025, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Fate in Tears and Laughter (film), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the Mingxing Film Company (logo pictured) paid off a gangster so that it could release Fate in Tears and Laughter? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Mingxing. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Fate in Tears and Laughter (film)), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 00:02, 18 January 2025 (UTC)

Fuzhou Road

Nice to see a familiar road here - used to pass by Fuzhou Road a lot while going to The Bund or People's Square. I do have a question though: Given that Google Maps doesn't exactly have the most updated information regarding places in China, wouldn't it be more accurate to use alternative & perhaps more updated map sources like Baidu Maps, Amap or OSM for the "Description" section? (Especially the "As of 2025" part) S5A-0043🚎 08:32, 19 January 2025 (UTC)

  • To be completely honest, I don't know. This is my first road article, and I was mainly interested due to its historic role in the publication industry. I did pull up OSM, and the one-way stipulation is there as well - though it doesn't show the little hook at the end, and neither do our maps of Shanghai on Commons. I'll nix that part. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 12:44, 19 January 2025 (UTC)

Cocoa and Coffee craters

Hi, I just wanted to let you know that Cocoa Crater and Coffee Crater are at GAN if you're interested in reviewing them. I probably won't be bringing those articles to FAC due to the lack of information about those volcanoes, but my draft for Eve Cone is looking more promising. Volcanoguy 22:25, 19 January 2025 (UTC)

DYK for Rain of Flowers Along the Silk Road

On 20 January 2025, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Rain of Flowers Along the Silk Road, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the dance drama Rain of Flowers Along the Silk Road used movements inspired by cave paintings? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Rain of Flowers Along the Silk Road. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Rain of Flowers Along the Silk Road), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Gatoclass (talk) 00:02, 20 January 2025 (UTC)

DYK for Lonely Orchid

On 20 January 2025, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Lonely Orchid, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the 1926 film Lonely Orchid was adapted from a British novel via a Chinese translation of a Japanese translation? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Lonely Orchid. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Lonely Orchid), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 12:02, 20 January 2025 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Featured picture candidates/Sarah Blackwood (Canadian singer)

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