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Jingle Bells

Greetings, BMK! Sorry to read above that your Christmas didn't go so well. Considering that, this might be an annoying question... but can you help guide the Jingle Bells article towards GA status? If that is not possible, I will have to just go ahead with the nomination and rely fully on the reviewer's help, which might be an inconvenience given our mutual unfamiliarity with the topic. You have 242 edits to the page, making any participation from you highly valuable.-- NØ 20:51, 31 January 2024 (UTC)

@MaranoFan: Thanks for contacting me. Yes, I've contributed a fair amount to that article over the years, but I cannot hold myself out as any kind of expert on the subject. Considering that, and the fact that my level of participation on Misplaced Pages is very low right now -- almost random, in fact -- due to a variety of family crises, means that I'm going to have to turn down your invitation to participate in bringing the article to GA status. I do, however, wish you the best of luck with it, and I look forward to seeing the result of your efforts. Best, Beyond My Ken (talk) 05:28, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

yt-dlp

Check out yt-dlp Polygnotus (talk) 13:59, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

• ?? Beyond My Ken (talk) 04:56, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

I read your userpage and it mentioned youtube-dl. I would recommend using yt-dlp instead. Polygnotus (talk) 11:21, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

• Thanks. Beyond My Ken (talk) 01:58, 7 February 2024 (UTC)

Horseshoe Theory

Hi, I edited "Horseshoe theory" just before you. The odd spacing in " Voilà, comme les extrêmes se rencontrent ! " is actually the original 19th-century typesetting, which I imitated. Is there a Misplaced Pages rule that typesetting has to be normalized to 21st-century standards?

I'm not intending to revert it or anything, just curious. ScarletPlanet (talk) 20:47, 18 February 2024 (UTC)

I wouldn't say that there is a rule, per se, but our primary concern should be communicating with our readers, and using contemporary formatting makes things easier for them. Beyond My Ken (talk) 17:25, 25 February 2024 (UTC)

The relevant policy is MOS:CONFORM. See also MOS:FOREIGNQUOTE. cagliost (talk) 21:16, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

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On a sad day you've brought a smile to my face

A childhood friend from the 80s died today, rather than sleeping I've distracted myself via wikipedia. While initialling perusing https://en.wikipedia.org/Molecular_recognition I somehow ended up down the rabbit hole of James Watson's scientific racism, where a few editors have a habit of removing any criticism even when well sourced, doing the same for other like minded bigots. Bringing me to your glorious edit https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=User_talk:Beyond_My_Ken&diff=next&oldid=995850740#Unhelpful_comment

I laughed my head off, thank you for delivering joy right when I needed it most. Hope you are well.

BeardedChimp (talk) 01:31, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

• Thanks, I appreciate it. I hope joy continues to come your way whenever you most need it. Best, Beyond My Ken (talk) 23:43, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

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Fixed. Beyond My Ken (talk) 20:50, 23 May 2024 (UTC)

Remind me about this?

Hi BMK, long time. I see you commenting at various pages on my way-too-long watchlist, but one way or another, we haven't interacted for a while; I hope all is well with you. I remember something many moons ago where I came around to your way of seeing things regarding placement of maintenance templates, after starting out in opposition. I don't have much recollection anymore about the details, but the bottom line was that either I placed a maint. template on a page or someone else did, and then you removed it, saying (I think) that it didn't have consensus, or something similar. At first, I was bent out of shape, thinking anybody could place a template on their own say so, and someone else shouldn't remove it based on WP:WTRMT. Eventually, your reasoning won me over, and I've changed my view on this to more aligned with yours. Can you fill me in (again?) on your reasoning, and ideally, link me to some guidance? I find myself on the other side of the fence now, removing a MT placed by someone else, and it would be nice to recall what it is you said that persuaded me. Does this ring a bell at all? Thanks, and hope you are well. Mathglot (talk) 07:55, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

@Mathglot: Sorry to take so long to respond to this. I vaguely recall the discussion you're referring to, but not enough to recall where and when it took place. There are a few older comments on my "Thoughts" page which may trigger your memory. In particular, this discussion from 2008 may be useful.Incidentally, I haven't changed my views in the 16 years since then, although I'm less inclined to make an issue out of it, unfortunately because the Misplaced Pages community's inherent intransigence and lack of interest in change often doesn't lend itself to consideration of how the project would benefit from small evolutionary adjustments; it seems that people would rather stick to communal authoritarianism instead. Beyond My Ken (talk) 02:59, 6 August 2024 (UTC)

Thanks! Mathglot (talk) 05:22, 6 August 2024 (UTC)

Precious anniversary

Precious

Eight years!

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File:300 & 302 Canal Street.jpg

Many, many years ago you uploaded an image of some loft buildings on Canal Street, with some notes about their history and architecture. It came in handy for an article I was working on, so I thought I might return the favor with a fun fact about its later history. The building on the left was the subject of a very famous experimental film called Wavelength, which uses as one of its main visual elements the building's tall, mullioned windows. hinnk (talk) 22:04, 28 July 2024 (UTC)

• That's very interesting - I have an LP by Michael Snow in my collection, Music for Piano, Whistling, Mic & Tape Recorder, which I haven't listened to in years.Do you have a source that verifies that 300 Canal is the building used for the film? I'd like to add that information to the photo's file, but I generally like to have a source to cite. Beyond My Ken (talk) 04:03, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

• @Hinnk: A belated ping to point you to my talk page. Beyond My Ken (talk) 04:10, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

  An article by Jeff Reichert, from the online publication for Museum of the Moving Image. hinnk (talk) 04:18, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

• Thanks very much! Beyond My Ken (talk) 04:40, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
• Done, with a link to your article. Beyond My Ken (talk) 04:53, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

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Done. Beyond My Ken (talk) 14:49, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

James Longstreet

I have reverted your recent changes to the James Longstreet article. I have identified the following problems:

Your addition that Helen Dortch Longstreet was a journalist appears to be unsupported by either of the sources attached to that sentence.

Removing the separate section header and subheaders for the Bibliography was completely useless. The citations and the bibliography are two separate sections and should be presented as such. Your change makes it more difficult to edit the Bibliography, is in my view also less pleasant to read, and accomplishes nothing. 3 The article originally said that the election of Grover Cleveland to the presidency in 1884 “ended” Longstreet’s political career. You changed “ended” to “interrupted,” implying that Longstreet would someday resume involvement in politics. This is false. Longstreet never held public office again. I also found the language “return of a Democratic administration” to be confusing, as Cleveland had never been president before.

Your version of the "Later life" section contains numerous excessively short one-sentence “paragraphs.”

You made numerous edits which interrupted source to text integrity. Basically, you broke up paragraphs and added citations to new sources (mainly the Varon book) but did not adjust the page numbers in the original citations. As a general rule, it is usually not necessary to add sources if a sentence is already reliably sourced. But if you are going to do so, and you make edits in a way that moves the original citations elsewhere, then you need to make sure that those citations stay attached to the information that they are supposed to verify.

I will restore some copyedits that I made, and I welcome you to re-add citations to the Varon book. But do not break up paragraphs in ways that are unnecessary, especially when that disrupts the citations. I would appreciate if you would also take note of the other statements that I made. Display name 99 (talk) 20:19, 8 August 2024 (UTC)

I will be restoring my edits, as the information is sourced to the Varon book, which you should read before making any additional reversions. Beyond My Ken (talk) 21:51, 8 August 2024 (UTC)

The Bibliography is still totally editable in the "References: section. This style is frequently used on Misplaced Pages, and is not forbidden by the MOS. Beyond My Ken (talk) 22:01, 8 August 2024 (UTC)

Please do presume to lecture me on how to edit Misplaced Pages. I've been editing for 19 years and over 60,000 edits and am well aware of how to edit. Your objections to format and style are noted and rejected as irrelevant. Beyond My Ken (talk) 22:01, 8 August 2024 (UTC)

One can be a public figure without holding public office. Longstreet continued to try to achieve office almost continually after he stepped down as Marshall, so his political cafreer was not "ended". That is why the article already said that he went into "semi-retirement", not "retirement". Beyond My Ken (talk) 22:01, 8 August 2024 (UTC)

Please be cognizant of the dangers of WP:OWNERSHIP of articles. I mention this because I see indications of ownership-type behavior in your message above. You also do not want to risk being partially blocked from another page as you are from Andrew Jackson. Beyond My Ken (talk) 22:06, 8 August 2024 (UTC)

Any further discussions should take place on the article's talk page and not here and should focus entirely on the subject at hand and not on your attempt to school me on how to edit Misplaced Pages. Beyond My Ken (talk) 22:08, 8 August 2024 (UTC)

• Because I clearly told you not to post here on this subject again, but to go to the article's talk page instead, I have deleted your comments without reading them. Beyond My Ken (talk) 04:01, 10 August 2024 (UTC)

There is currently a discussion at Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Display name 99 (talk) 17:22, 10 August 2024 (UTC)

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“National Socialist Program”

Hi, BMK. While I was browsing Nazism/Archive_29, you came to my attention as a transparent editor who has engaged on this topic over an extended period of time. As the subject is contentious (maybe needlessly so), I'm wary of even proposing anything on the talk page.

Nonetheless: I noticed (thanks to this particular discussion) that the title of the article National Socialist Program essentially violates NPOV (or VOICE etc.) in the same way as outlined in Talk:Nazism/FAQ. AFAIK, none of the citations (which are already questionable—e.g., Erik von Kuehnelt-Leddihn) even support the use of this title. If there is any evidence that the Nazis themselves called their 25-point plan "the National Socialist Program", I am unaware of it. (Do you know of any?)

I was surprised not to see any discussion of this on the talk page, especially after I saw you'd been to that same page, yourself.

What do you think?

--ΝΗΜΙΝΥΛΙ 00:32, 13 January 2025 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Νημινυλι (talk • contribs)