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== To-do: red plastic gas cans ==
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For your RSN post. Can you figure out why ] has ] as a see also or what makes Mol an Aids denialist? Rejecting that one has HIV doesn't mean they deny the existence of HIV. Simon Mol was deleted at ] but recreated by this editor last December. ] (]) 15:17, 31 August 2014 (UTC)
:Wow, I'm gonna need more caffeine for that one. First impression is that if we trim out all the OR, there might not be enough left to establish notability. I've got an appointment in a bit, but I'll add it to my watchlist and make a note of it. ] (]) 15:26, 31 August 2014 (UTC)


These things are ubiquitous in the US (or at least any part I've been to) but we don't have an article on them. Like, I've only ever seen three consistent models (each different sizes of the same basic pattern) and looking online, it looks like those are the only three models that have been allowed since the gas crisis in the '70s.{{or|date=October 2018}}
See my longer request for consensus and the RS related to him and other "HIV circumcision denialists" ]. <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 21:23, 31 August 2014 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->


I've got a lot of other things on my plate, but I think these might be sufficient sources for someone (me, anyone else, whoever) to write up an article on them:
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The last source definitely doesn't establish ] and I'd normally be wary of anyone insisting that it be used. Still, I think they also discuss regulatory info and maybe manufacturing history. Given the news sources (all of which are "oh shit, these things are exploding again" and "please stop doing things to make them explode"), I think it's safe to say that its inclusion probably won't amount to promotion.
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I'm not sure that this would accomplish much more than a stub, at least with my usual "summarize, paraphrase, combine overlapping statements" approach. ] (]) 22:21, 12 October 2018 (UTC)
Thank you *very much* for your hard word on ]. I am awed by your perseverance. More on .


:I saw this up in your table of contents. Those damned things are a colossal nuisance , I finally found a brand that allows better control of flow and doesn't end up slopping gas all over the lawnmower, generator, or tiller. The mesh screen appears nowadays to be broadly used. They also come in yellow for diesel and blue for kerosene. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 01:19, 30 December 2018 (UTC)
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::I am remembering my dad using blue barrels made of the same material for kerosene back when we had a space heater but yeah, I do see the same design in blue and yellow. (I think he got them on sale, I'm not sure I've seen them in stores ever again, and boy hell were they trouble to get rid of). Guess I need to look for sources on the diesel and kerosene ones and figure out what the industry name is for this family of cans. They're not ]s (which is where ] currently redirects): they're broader, have a handle on the back, and the stamping on the sides is just embossed warning text (not a structural feature). (I'm sure you know but other talk page watchers who haven't opened the links might be wondering why I want to reinvent the Jerrycan).
:I'm not seeing any censorship, I'm seeing editors trying to get the article to actually stick to what the sources say ]. ] (]) 15:04, 1 September 2014 (UTC)
::There's another gas can design that I'm seeing, "Safety gas cans," which I suppose needs to be written about as well. Basically squat half-capsule mini-barrels with a handle and spout on the flatly rounded top. They're why I haven't just made "gas can" about the red plastic ones, since we really need "gas can" to be a disambig between the standard plastic, the Jerrycan, and the safety gas cans. Thanks for helping me realize that. ] (]) 01:38, 30 December 2018 (UTC)
:::I'm accumulating a museum of gas cans. I got two of the safety cans after squirrels started eating the plastic ones. After that generation of squirrels died they seem to have stopped munching plastic and confine themselves to the house, so now I have some plastic ones that are easier to handle, and a yellow one in case we run out of heating oil - I can get off-road diesel and use that in a pinch. I think ] is a safe generic term. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 01:49, 30 December 2018 (UTC)


*I guess maybe a redirect to ] would suffice? ] (]) 23:10, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
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I've bought some sources to expand articles on Goetic demons, though. I may work some on that without fully coming off of the Wikibreak. ] (]) 23:10, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
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:Hi Ian - we haven't interacted much, so sorry for coming out of the blue, but I wanted to tell you that when I was in my 'I have an account, but I mostly just read stuff without commenting' stage, your contributions were a real inspiration for me to actually get involved. You were one of the most active editors on some of the pages I was interested in, and I saw your name come up time and again attached to sensible, rational comments. So, yeah - I'm a fan.
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You left the source for the Goetia as the Mather/Crowley 1904 edition, so I'm curious if you understood those attributes come from Crowley in Liber 777 (1909). After reviewing the edits I see that the source cited was DuQuette, instead of Crowley. Is your objection to those being in the article because they weren't correctly cited as Crowley, or is your objection to Crowley as a source?
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IMHO the most helpful work for that article would be Richard Carrier's ''On The Historicity of Jesus'' ; it is in his own words "the first comprehensive pro-Jesus myth book ever published by a respected academic press and under formal peer review". The first three chapters go over why there have been so many problems with the whole historical vs mythical Jesus debate with the main one being that there are effectively ''two'' historical Jesus theories involved: the Reductive theory: "Jesus was an ordinary but obscure individual who inspired a religious movement and copious legends about him" and the Triumphalist theory: "The Gospels are totally or almost totally true".
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Is that your response on the merits? Calling me "tendentious? Impressive analysis!
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Every two weeks, when my email login expires and I have to log back in, I get the notification that "I" have too many failed logins and need to reset my password. Even after almost a year of inactivity, this is still the case. To the asshole(s) doing that, you could have made bank on crypto by now, and I'm saying that as someone who thinks all cryptocurrency is a scam.
Thanks for your message Ian, sincerely, I will in future try and strictly adhere to the rules and regs, and I realise I should have posted about Apollo not Hobal.


Thanks to Misplaced Pages, I got to see alt-right talking points identified as such well before they became a part of mainstream conversation. Offline individuals who I trusted and respected started hinting at these talking points more and more. Pretty much every attempt to show them the source and goal of those ideas only stalled things at best. When politicians aren't stirring up the alt-right, they're defending those who stir them up, or defending those who defend the pandering, or saying we need to cooperate with those who are ultimately defending the alt-right. And the number of users I've seen hounded for saying ] is dismaying. Shame on the shriveled, minuscule, impotent souls whose petty grudges push them to defend fascism just to score points against someone. And if you're upset at my characterization of you as such, you're the one who put the shoe on, Cinderella.
No worries,


On top of that, over the past decade, I've spent half of it on the other side of the world from my hometown. Though this has just slowed the rate at which I was growing tired, it hasn't stopped it.
] (]) 15:57, 7 October 2014 (UTC)Max.


I'm fucking sick of it all. I'd say "Nazis can all go to hell" but that's like telling shit to stink. Wait, no, at least shit has enough sense that it doesn't need to be told to do that.
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I did not make a personal attack to Dougweller nor did I publish libel. In fact, I feel that you try to intimidate me by posting the mere suggestion, please correct me if I am wrong.


I do want to come back. I'm aware that we'll never "go back to normal," that there is not and will never be a "new normal," that normal was always a monsterous lie, and that order is nothing but the local flavor of chaos. That thinking is actually kinda why I got along here as well as I did.
I am well aware of Misplaced Pages's rules of conduct and I possess respect for both you and Dougweller, however I will point out injustice when I see it. If anyone takes that as an insult, or personal attack, then it altogether proves they were doing something shameful that would invoke the feeling in the first place.


I do enjoy non-contentious admin work. Going through new user names and blocking obvious troll or spam accounts before anyone else can even report them is actually fun.
I do not know if you are aware or not, but India's 113th Amendment Bill changed Oriya to Odia and Orissa to Odisha more than 3 years ago.


I have a bunch of new sources for ] related articles as well as sources for the ] article.
Dougweller reverted a FACT to something INCORRECT, without proper logical, and educated explanation or justification as to why. That is clear, plain and simple abuse of Administrative Power. Just saying some change needs to be discussed is fine, but not acting up on it, ( for more than an excess of 3 years is not punctual) especially having known it is of hot debate and knowing the status quo is wrong, is just incorrect. Misplaced Pages strives to contain factual information, please correct me if I am wrong. His revert misconstrues the article and demolishes Misplaced Pages's factuality.


I'm tired of pretending I prioritize ] over ]. I know enough about the site to know that saying that's going to bite me on the ass and that that that's not going to work well with my other plans to return. Going to be thinking about it but I'm certain there's no outcome I'm going to be happy with. ] (]) 09:36, 4 May 2022 (UTC)
Good faith does not always constitute correct action.


:Hi Ian - I came across your username just now while reading an old thread, and realised I hadn't seen you around in a while. I came here, and read this. All I can say is this: when I was a newb, you were one of the people who inspired me. I saw lots of sensible, level-headed comments and actions from you, and I thought 'Hey, Misplaced Pages is a little bit of the internet where there are good people running things. Maybe I could get involved here.' Do what's best for you, of course, but I wanted you to know that you made a difference, for me at least. ]] 23:44, 8 December 2022 (UTC)
If Misplaced Pages is prolonging intentionally, then I do not know what could be more corrupt and horrid. I do hope Misplaced Pages keeps its standard of punctuality, we certainly would not want to lag behind the world, as a readily-changeable encyclopedia, would we?


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I did cite a ''reliable'' source when I made my edit. Please fully investigate, if you want to accuse me of such a thing. Second, neither you nor Dougweller have been helpful to me, in fact, I feel both you and Dougweller have reduced me to human filth. It is certainly clear both you and Dougwell have no regard for Misplaced Pages's factuality. I told you "India's 113th Amendment Bill changed Oriya to Odia and Orissa to Odisha more than 3 years ago." I did cite my source when I made my edit. I will point out injustice when I see it. I will point out misuse and abuse of administrative power when I encounter it. I will point out intimidation when I see it. Please do not try to protect Dougweller's wrong-doings and in the process commit wrong-doings yourself. I cannot cooperate if people like you and Dougweller obstruct me from cooperating whatsoever. It is you and Dougweller who are berating me. I am not bullying anyone, I am stating fact, rather it is the case that you are bullying me.


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I cited the authentic source for my edit, Dougweller, an administrative, did not accept that and reverted my edit. This revert made Misplaced Pages erroneous. That is enough proof of abuse of administrative power. Administrators are present to "revert" vandalism and/ or incorrect/opinionated statements, not fact. It seems that Dougweller and you are both hesitating to make a change. I am stating fact that Oriya is Odia. It matters not if Oriya is colloquial nor commonly used (there is no proof that Odia IS NOT commonly used) Please refer to the 113th amendment of the Indian Constitution. I am cooperating. I am being a good person and changing Misplaced Pages so that it is correct. I demand the change for Misplaced Pages's sake. I suggested to be "a bit more civil", who's the one not cooperating? If Dougweller does not "care" about the topic, then he should not be involved in it. He should get someone who does "care." I am sorry but more than 1 year to make a simple change to FACT is ludicrous and is injustice. I did not call Dougweller any names, nor did I publish any libel. Those are called "personal attacks" i.e. Ad Hominem abuse. He told me to be ""a bit more civil" which is an Ad Hominem attack defaming my stature. I am civilized. You came along and insinuated (actually stated) that I was a "bully"; that is Ad Hominem abuse. That is degradation and is a "personal attack." Please answer why, if the edit I made is verified by the Indian Constitution, it cannot be included in the article? I am seeing that not only are you/Dougweller NOT fixing the issue, but diverting the problem each and every way, effectively NOT fixing the issue. <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 23:36, 7 October 2014 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
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No and it is for a web 2.0 class I meant no harm figured the information I was added was okay to add because what I added was common knowledge. and yes the keanderson85 is my old account but I couldn't remember the password to log back on. I don't know how to use this site, so I don't know how to delete my old user name. By no means was I trying to vandalize a page at all.] (]) 17:25, 9 October 2014 (UTC)
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Hi I Am Replying To Your Message You Sent To Me About Western Sahara If You Look At A Map Of Africa Do You Know What A Map Is? You Will Find That Western Sahara Is On The Western Coast Of Africa Anyone With a Brain Can See That I Would Know I'm From Northern Africa So Please Look At Map And Try To Find Western Sahara That Is Why They Call Western Sahara Because It's In The Western Most Part Of The Sahara Desert where Is The Western Most Part Of The Sahara? On The Western Coast Of Africa So Please Go Back To The Third Grade And Learn Geography Thank's ! ! !{{unsigned|Truthfinder1011}}
:Ok, you don't know where the bottom of the page is, nor do you seem to understand the difference between North and West... ]. ] (]) 20:57, 8 October 2014 (UTC)

== Concerning edit ==

Would you approve of this edit ? -- ] (]) 20:48, 12 October 2014 (UTC)
:The former version does rather imply that the book is confirmed to have been written by a historical Mark, which goes against ]. It is awkward though, as if the text is self-aware and self-generating (though that's clearly not what the IP intended). Maybe "The author introduces his book" would be a good compromise? ] (]) 20:59, 12 October 2014 (UTC)
::Thanks, it looks better now. --Thnx & Cheers-- ] (]) 21:39, 12 October 2014 (UTC)

== Adminship ==

No big deal, and all that. You'd benefit from admin tools, I don't see any glaring reason why you shouldn't have them, probably only a handful of people will come out and moan. Yes, I know RFA is (sadly) a bit of a hell-hole right now, but it doesn't need to be. I'd like to ask you to consider requesting the extra bits. <small><span style="border:1px solid #0000ff;padding:1px;">]&nbsp;:&nbsp;] </span></small> 22:21, 14 October 2014 (UTC)
:Thanks. I'm open to being nominated, and will participate in an RfA if I get thrown into one, but still would rather not self-nominate. It's not that I wouldn't engage in admin duties, I think it'd look better if someone else got the ball rolling (such that it might keep a few persons from coming out to argue). ] (]) 23:03, 14 October 2014 (UTC)
::Okay, leave it with me. <small><span style="border:1px solid #0000ff;padding:1px;">]&nbsp;:&nbsp;] </span></small> 06:46, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
:::Well it looks like you've got a nom so I'm going to focus on a few others who raised their hands. Good luck. If you want a co-nom, let me know but I think Pedro counts as, like, 3 admin noms or something.--v/r - ]] 20:00, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
::] for a good candidate. Studying successful RfAs may be helpful to you.<br />&nbsp;—&nbsp;] ] 23:37, 16 October 2014 (UTC)

== Yet another person who doesn't know where a bottom is ==
You reverted my first edit 2 minutes after it was made. You didn't exactly give me any opportunity to fix up the criticism section first. You are clearly a Christian POV peddler wanting to make sure you get your gainsaying inserted after every comment. I don't see much point in continuing as you clearly intend the article to be skewed and have more time to devote to that that I do. ] (]) 18:42, 17 October 2014 (UTC)
:You had every opportunity to move the material to the criticism section, and yet you didn't. That indicates an agenda on your part, not mine. I repeatedly said that it'd be fine to relocate the material, which you chose not to do. If you bother ] (although that would require you to actually read my page, which you demonstrated an inability to do by leaving the message at the top), you'd see that your ] are at best the pot calling the kettle black, if not projection. ] (]) 18:49, 17 October 2014 (UTC)

== You're right, ==

hair falling from the sky is probably not as likely as hail, but definitely more likely than a star/angel/ark/mountain. I'm sure the angels would have great hair though. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 19:57, 18 October 2014 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== You have reported me despite I waited for 24 hours ==

I have already waited for 24 hours after 3 revert edit, and I have the right to edit but you reported me to the administrator anyway. The sheer fact is you don't want an anthropology section on the Huns page despite it being there since 2014 april. I had rephrased them like you said and added the possibility of it being poor quality science just to be non-biased but still decided to remove it regardless ] (]) 18:37, 18 October 2014 (UTC)
:Please learn to count. Your was since the one before that. ] (]) 02:41, 19 October 2014 (UTC)

:: Yes sorry. I just woke up 2 hours ago and it's nightime right now. You did a good job pointing out my mistake but I'm still highly suspicious why a good data can be removed after 7 months, unless you're telling all the moderators were extremely lazy for a half year and didn't bother checking. No one had replied me on the Huns talk page by the way. It is unfortunate that it should removed just because you and the other user suspect it as unreliable but that doesn't change the fact that excavation and reconstructions of the Huns existed. If you want to be non-biased than the anthropology data should mentioned while stating the errors and mistake they could have had. ] (]) 19:08, 18 October 2014 (UTC)
:::This site is maintained by volunteers. Just because a mistake takes a while to remove does not justify it. Old mistakes are still mistakes and should be removed. ] (]) 03:19, 19 October 2014 (UTC)

:::: There is no proof that they are mistakes anyway, this is pure speculation. Show me one source that actually claim the reconstruction of Huns as absolutely unrealible data? you would find no sources that make such claims other than some people/users claiming that it's pseudo-science or that the methods used were not accurate. The fact that is there is evidence ( is basically a fact ) that we had once reconstructed the Hun skulls from the graves is more than enough a good reason to let people know. A true and honest non-biase edit would allow to two opinions. By not allowing the anthropology section of Hun you are basically telling people it didn't exist. EVEN IF IT WAS A ERROR lets be honest about such had existed, let people know that Hungarian anthropologist had reconstructed the skulls. There is no problem in letting people know about it. ] (]) 19:25, 18 October 2014 (UTC)
:::::Look, you cited "Black Terror White Soldiers," a conspiracy theorist work about the Illuminati's supposed influence on history. You thought that sleeping meant that 24 hours passed since the last time you edited. You repeatedly plagiarized from multiple sources. You haven't provided adequate sources, and are instead asking everyone else to somehow provide sources to demonstrate that your sources aren't good enough. And you don't get that consensus is against you. '''''All of that gives me very little reason to ], much less your capacity to accurately judge academic work.'''''
:::::My initial interest was that you were plagiarizing. I'm actually not particularly concerned about article content, but because you've been plagiarizing, citing conspiracy theories, and utterly failing to get the point, I have no reason to think that your "contribution" was helpful to the site. ] (]) 03:34, 19 October 2014 (UTC)

== Fortuna Düsseldorf ==

Hi Ian,
I"m sure you are a delightful and clever fellow, but the content of your comment is also patronizing and pointless.
I could now go the library and search for scholarly journals that discuss the recent history of Fortuna Düsseldorf, hunting for academic sources to verify my bold assertions that Fortuna was unbeaten in the last seven games of last season, and that Oliver Reck took over from Lorenz-Günther Köstner as coach. But I won't. Instead I will go to bed - it's after 1:00 at night here in Germany - and I will not waste any more of my time trying to improve an article on a topic I follow closely, and which others may be interested in.
In the meantime, I have no doubt that you and "Jim" and many other self-important, self-appointed "Misplaced Pages editors" will continue to hack away at other people's efforts. Congratulations. Keep up the good work.
Tom
P.S. By the way, it was me who wrote about 20% of the existing Fortuna entry - all of it (gasp!) without footnotes. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 23:34, 20 October 2014 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:If your attitude that anyone trying to help you do things right is "patronizing," that such help is "pointless," and you plan on "not wasting any more time" because of it, good riddance to you. Come back when you're ready to cooperate with the grown-ups. ] (]) 23:40, 20 October 2014 (UTC)

== apologies ==

you are perfectly right, it was my first time to post a comment and did it wrong. I didn't intend at all to remove or modify somebody's else post, it was just my mistake of operation and I apologize for it.
Since I deeply love Misplaced Pages and I found a mistake, I tried to correct it. But Dougweller has just undone it without reading it...
That's why I tried to post to him, but I did it wrong...
If it's possible for you to restore the removed post I'd be grateful, as I said it was not at all my intention.
I try now with this post to you to see if I do it correctly... (this time I have put two equal signs before and after my title "apologies"...)
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== List of Theological Demons "Apocrypha" ->S<- ==

Ian, I am with you on your edits that condemn Apocrypha that does not belong. There is ] (Stemming from an Apocryphal book). Can you use your knowledge and editing authority to remove the one that does not link to another page? And, I am sorry for our battling, we are on the same side of the cross. ] (]) 13:20, 21 October 2014 (UTC)
:I am glad to see a hope for cooperation, but I'm not sure if I actually am in a position to help. I do not condemn apocrypha per se, but unreliable sourcing. Apocryphal works may not be spiritually valid, but they do represent what different groups have believed over the ages (which, combined with a bit of knowledge of history, can lead to some off-site speculation of why individuals turned to such beliefs). I'm not seeing anything problematic in the S section of ]. Guessing from your comment about "Stemming from an Apocryphal book," do you by chance mean Salpsan? ] (]) 15:14, 21 October 2014 (UTC)

Yes, I'd like to team-up to get rid of that, in a major change of heart, and an intervention, I learned that the Apocrypha is not valid. At the very least, I support wholeheartedly, your interest in keeping the nonsense from seeping into factual biblical information. It was my opinion that you did not consider it factual, based on its authorship, and additional reasons. My best guess to remove is using your research, which I have not yet gotten to. You were always scholarly in using Wiki to remove such things. ] (]) 16:37, 21 October 2014 (UTC)
:As I said, while pseudepigrapha may not be scripturally valid, it does represent a history of belief that can be studied from a secular perspective (and even help contribute to an off-site understanding of how heresy arises and how to deal with it). I do not consider the ] to be factual, nor do I believe that Satan has a son named Salpsan -- ''but'' it is factual to say that some groups in late antiquity believed in the text, it is factual to say that the work presents a mythology where Satan has a son, and it is factual to say that the work may have had some influence elsewhere. notes possible influence of the ''Questions'' on the medieval poem ].
:In short, just because something is scripturally invalid or outright heretical is not a reason to exclude it. What matters is whether the material is reliably sourced. It's no different than including material about other religions on the site. I may disagree with ] on pretty much every point, but our material on it contributes to broader knowledge. ] (]) 16:51, 21 October 2014 (UTC)

== ] ==

You've edited ] - are these separate subjects? Thanks. ] (]) 12:11, 22 October 2014 (UTC)
:I did? ], I'd guess that Bible Numerics is the American Conservative Evangelical euphemism for Biblical numerology when they do it (numerology being "the devil's work").
:Looking at both articles (oh, I did edit it), and seeing Gematria come up in Bible numerics, I'm just gonna go on and boldly redirect it Bible Numerics to Bible Numerology and maybe try to find some RSs to dump onto the latter's talk page when the caffeine starts working. Both of them are a mess, but I'm under the impression it'd be possible to have an article on the Numerology one. ] (]) 15:04, 22 October 2014 (UTC)
::Thanks, that was what I was thinking also but as I saw your name thought I'd ask. ] (]) 16:06, 22 October 2014 (UTC)

== Warning to Julson about his post on my talk page ==

That was obviously an accident - see his comments about it. And all my fault for a bad revert! Thanks for keeping watch though, much appreciated. ] (]) 16:05, 22 October 2014 (UTC)
:I figured (well, regarding the accident, don't even remember what article it was about), which is why I used the level 1 template. ] (]) 16:13, 22 October 2014 (UTC)

== Interaction ==

Effective immediately, it is my policy to not interact with you. I request that you respect my decision, and not seek to interact with me. ] (]) 02:41, 27 October 2014 (UTC)
:::That's fine. You'll notice that outside of a certain topic, I've completely left you alone. I'd rather not argue with you, I do actually hope that there are topics upon which we can agree and cooperate on. However, I've worked with Charlesdrakew enough (see ] for a taste) to trust his judgement, and even then I see no real wrong-doing on his part. ] (]) 02:54, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

== Zodiac Killer ==

I have checked two websites that say Gilligan's Island star Russell Johnson is the Zodiac Killer. However, since I'm no criminal expert like John Walsh or the FBI, I cannot guarantee they may be true, but I did read your message about Empire News, so I will avoid that sight for references. But do find some geniuses that may know about this news on other websites because I was not born in the 60s. ] (]) 18:44, 28 October 2014 (UTC)
:When I did a search for "Russell Johnson Zodiac Killer," the first result was , which traces the ultimate origin of that story to Empire News (although I'll note that it's really just ripping off ]'s article ), followed by ] article . Any other site you saw it on was repeating the Empire News gag. I do not know how you managed to completely miss that the entire thing is obviously fake from the beginning. ] (]) 18:54, 28 October 2014 (UTC)
I was unaware in the first place because I paid more attention to the details of the reference. But I will not post any further information about supposed Zodiac Killer suspect Russell Johnson again. ] (]) 19:57, 28 October 2014 (UTC)

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== Pending suspension of administrative permissions due to inactivity ==
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:Which article is it for? ] (]) 14:47, 30 October 2014 (UTC)
::Thank god you replied, it’s not for an article, it’s for a book. I need article(s) paragraphs to be combined and rewritten. Currently I’m gathering the information, learning at the same time, I am just finding it difficult to combine paragraphs for amendments. Plus its wasting a lot of time when I should be using this time to actually write the story appropriately which is mixing with the book. Once the combining is done some of the selected bits that will go with the book need to be re-written. I’ll be grateful with whatever you’ll be happy to help with. Currently I have someone volunteered to help me, but she is way to slow, slower than me... -- (] (]) 16:58, 30 October 2014 (UTC))
:::Sorry, but I'm already busy with a couple of other books that I would make money off of (...and busy with some government paperwork to get a job overseas ...and helping my mom nurse my uncle with cancer). ] (]) 20:58, 30 October 2014 (UTC)
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== Zeitgeist RfC == == NPOV ==


Hello, there is a discussion about neutral point on view of the RFK Jr talk page and I am wondering what your say on it is. ] (]) 20:31, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
A few users are talking about merging the Zeitgeist articles in ].--] <sub>] ]</sub> 20:45, 30 October 2014 (UTC)


:What made you seek out this particular editor, who has made only 1 edit in nearly 2 years? ] (]) 20:58, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
Ian,
::They were the editor that got onto be when I was making biased edits on religious articles when I was younger. I figured someone being on the other side of my troublemaking could make a much more informed decision than me that would be more unbiased. They are the one that taught me about NPOV. ] (]) 03:38, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
Thanks very much for the clarification! By doing so you inadvertently provided me with a new source for my research project, so I am much obliged.


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The edits by {{u|Youtube dot com c-r72Nr8A44}} on ] were actually correct, the edit summaries were wrong. Your reverts on them were improper. Youtube dot com c-r72Nr8A44 initial revert was to revert the AFD back to the version as it was closed in 2012. {{u|Skyfall}} added comments to the closed discussion and should not have. ]&nbsp;] 16:32, 3 November 2014 (UTC)
:Gah, sorry! After I saw ] revert, I thought it must've been more of Beals's usual antics. ] (]) 16:41, 3 November 2014 (UTC)


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== Sayyid Mir Jan ==
Dear Sir Mr. Thomson
Thank you very much for your advise. My source is from those books (Khwanade hazrat Eshan, which is written by Muhammad Yasin Qasavi Naqshbandi) and life of Hazrat Sayyid Mir Jan and sayyid Mir Jans living and official witnesses. I would be grateful, when you allow me to put your notes away.
Thank you very much in advance for your understanding. I am waiting for your answer.
Dear Sir Mr. Thomson
This book is investigated and written by Mr. Qasvari Naqshbandi. The company is called Edare Talimate Naqshbandiyya Lahore. And I have corrected my references. <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 21:23, 10 November 2014 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
sincerely <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 20:53, 10 November 2014 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:We do not use witnesses as sources, we use published books. Again, what company published the books you are citing? ] (]) 20:56, 10 November 2014 (UTC)


== Tower of Babel == == A goat for you! ==

Would you mind replying to the guy on my talk page who's talking about my edit there? Thanks. ] (]) 21:06, 10 November 2014 (UTC)
:Of course. I don't ask this as an issue of exchange (just asking while you're here), but could you keep an eye on the article in the section above? ] (]) 21:13, 10 November 2014 (UTC)

== regaurding the episode vii title edit ==

its right here

http://theforce.net/v3-story/frontStar_Wars_Episode_VII_Will_Be_Called_The_Force_Awakens_160763.asp <small class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 00:45, 11 November 2014 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== Thanks ==

I probably blocked or reverted him when he was using another IP. ] (]) 14:06, 12 November 2014 (UTC)
:No problem. ] (]) 14:08, 12 November 2014 (UTC)

== Tower of Babel ==

Ok, well, even if we both agree with the bible, the page is still biased. I see what you mean about using "account" making it biased. But "story" does that too. I don't want anymore spiel about Wiki's bias policies. My intention was to correct the page to make it non-biased, I actually meant to help. However, I realize now that "account" may have not been the best word to use.

I therefore suggest: description, relation, explanation, version, interpretation - or something along those lines. If you or Dougweller could edit the page I would be most appreciative. I may not have time or effort to edit it in an appropiate manner. If Dougweller edits it, please make sure he's read this post first.

Thanks :-){{unsigned|WikiNonBoffin}}
:Sorry, but a lot of those other terms still fall under objective claims (except interpretation, which implies that the flood narrative is a purely subjective understanding of something else, rather than a thing in itself). Stories are not automatically fiction. All story means is a sequence of events, without any assumption one way or another as to what kind of veracity they do or do not have. Indeed, "myth" doesn't necessarily mean "falsehood" (for example, ). ] (]) 17:51, 12 November 2014 (UTC)

Ok, could we perhaps add a small header explaining that it's not neccesarily untrue? Otherwise people like me might come along, read the article and - as I did - get the wrong impression.

Much appreciated.{{unsigned|WikiNonBoffin}}
:Then we'd have to insert a header explaining that it's not necessarily true. ] (]) 22:19, 12 November 2014 (UTC)

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== Answer my question on my talk page please I just made ==

Hopefully...{{unsigned|Immortal Discoveries}}
:If you want to ask someone a question, ask it on their talk page. ] (]) 00:14, 23 November 2014 (UTC)

== Tower of Babel ==

How about using as reference? People have said it's very neutral, naturally as it's on Britannica, and I agree.

:-){{unsigned|WikiNonBoffin}}

:They use the phrasings "story" and "myth" as well. Also, ]. ] (]) 23:15, 23 November 2014 (UTC)

== While hunting Orion ==

While searching for any other mentions of Orion as a sun-god or "solar hero", I found {{tq|"Haik was identified with the Sun-god Orion"}} in ], along with other synthesis such as Ara {{tq|"is associated with Osiris, Vishnu and Dionysus, as the symbol of new life"}}. They were introduced in by now-blocked ], an edit which seems to have pasted in content from ], ], ] and other articles. I'm now deeply suspicious of the large ] section which arrived in that same edit, fully formed and going into great detail about ], even though I can't trace it to any Misplaced Pages article and can't be sure if online texts are sources for it or copies from it.<br />
So now I'm not sure what to do. I was going to simply remove the mythological syntheses, but now it looks as if it might need a much bolder hand and more familiarity with this area - so I came to you. ] (]) 20:07, 24 November 2014 (UTC)
:Oy vey... Thanks for the alert. {{ping|Dougweller}}, {{ping|AcidSnow}}, {{ping|A. Parrot}}, letting y'all know about this as well. ] (]) 21:30, 24 November 2014 (UTC)
::I did find and remove the suspicious (and uselessly vague) linkage of Ara with other gods, but I didn't dig through the history to see who had added it. I thought it might well be Ararat's work, but it seemed a slightly different tack from his current behavior, which uses Hayk as the point of connection with Osiris. Do you think you have these problems in hand? ] (]) 22:26, 24 November 2014 (UTC)
:::You did catch that and Ian cleaned up some more - all in the ] article. How were you to know there was a fork at ]? We could just paste the cleaned-up version into the fork, but I hesitate; I don't really know policy and good practice on forks and I fear this one's got a copyright problem in the architecture section. ] (]) 22:37, 24 November 2014 (UTC)
:::{{ec}}Re Ararat, Hayk, etc: I dunno, but some of the material could stand reworking regardless.
:::Re being able to handle it, short answer: probably? At least the mythology.
:::Long answer: I'm gonna see if I can rewrite the ] article tonight (if not those on the gods as well), since that's more familiar territory for me. ({{small|Now if only I'd put that much effort on ] ]}}, I might be done with it). Whether or not it's him, that could stand doing. I'm also going to just remove anything that's unsourced in the other articles, and delete and readd any useful material that might be him just so it's technically not in his name (if it is).
::::Re architecture section: . ] (]) 22:41, 24 November 2014 (UTC)
:::::Started going through ], but my steak, potato, and salad just showed up. Will resume in a bit. ] (]) 23:38, 24 November 2014 (UTC)
::::::My sympathies. Real-life obligations have taken away the huge blocks of time I need to rewrite ]; I haven't added to the rewrite in months. And because I keep it offline until it's complete, people can't see the progress I have made. Anyway, as I know very little about Armenian mythology, I'll leave you to it unless you need help. ] (]) 23:56, 24 November 2014 (UTC)
:::::::({{small|How'd you know the potato and salad were going to be that bad?}}) No worries. I don't know much about it specifically, but it's overall a bit of a mishmash of native, Iranian/], and Semitic elements (the latter two I've adequately studied); I've got or can get enough sources to leave it at least as nice as I found it, and I've been meaning to read more on the subject. ] (]) 00:16, 25 November 2014 (UTC)
{{od}}
I've taken care of any Ararat material at ] and ] (at least what I could immediately spot, and I haven't started on articles on individual gods), deleted the architecture section of the Ancient Armenia article, and didn't find any problems skimming through ]. That leaves ] and ], particularly (so far as I can tell) the first paragraph of the intro, the first paragraph of the "Classification and origins" section, and the first paragraph of the "Evolution" section. Skimming the article just now was seriously the first time I've read a thing about Armenian, so if anyone else wants to jump on it, feel free. ] (]) 01:50, 25 November 2014 (UTC)
:I dabble in linguistics, and most of that doesn't ring any alarm bells. The only thing I see that's dubious is the claim that the classical Armenian language was "was one of the great languages of the Near East and Asia Minor" in the fifth century. Unless the language was widely spoken outside Armenia itself, this claim is pretty meaningless. Armenian ''could'' have been a lingua franca in Asia Minor and the northern Near East, given the influence Armenia had in earlier centuries (see ]). But Greek and Aramaic must have had greater currency in the area than Armenian, and after the kingdom lost its independence to the Romans and Persians in the fourth century, I'd expect Persian to be more important, too. ] (]) 03:46, 25 November 2014 (UTC)
::You're definitely way more qualified than I am to blank and rewrite those portions. I'll accept that they're probably innocuous or even helpful, but because they were written by a banned editor, I'm still inclined to think it wouldn't be a bad idea to remove and then readd/rewrite them so he cannot claim "good edits" as a defense for his presence (though if they were written before the block or by someone else, '']'' may not be necessary). I generally used different sources than Ararat simply because I don't trust him (or maybe-him) on any sort of theological or mythological topic, but I'll trust your judgement as to his linguistic sources (where he cites them). ] (]) 04:08, 25 November 2014 (UTC)
:::Eh, maybe even "dabble" is too strong a description of my knowledge of linguistics. Fortunately, the sources that he did use, though not primarily linguistic, are fairly scholarly and are checkable online. I cut out the parts that weren't sourced, except the paragraph about Mesrop Mashtots' invention of the Armenian alphabet, because I've come across those statements whenever I've read about Mashtots (e.g., ). ] (]) 08:09, 25 November 2014 (UTC)
::::You all seem to have this under control, let me know if there is anything I can do. ] (]) 17:49, 25 November 2014 (UTC)
:::::{{small|No chance you could take my uncle to the doctor's today, I'm guessing.}} If you've got any more modern sources ], they'd be welcome. ] (]) 18:14, 25 November 2014 (UTC)

== Need a hand? ==

The connection looks substantial enough, so for a few days. Figured I'd let you know. Drop by if anything else I can help with pops up. Best, ] 23:02, 26 November 2014 (UTC)
:Thanks, will let you know. I was planning on just going through the ] pantheon articles two sources at a time, and with him off my back I should be able to go back to doing that. ] (]) 23:09, 26 November 2014 (UTC)


== Magical vs Mystical ==
I started a ] about using "mystical" instead of "magical" on religious pages over in the Wikiproject:Occult. You had some stuff posted there so I assume you would want to be notified. I think I see you have used magical so you may be a good source for the other side of the discussion as me unless you agree (which I'm totally cool with). --]] 01:45, 28 November 2014 (UTC)

== : ] ==

Thank you for helping.

(] (]) 05:13, 28 November 2014 (UTC))

== Bonehill again ==

An IP traced from his hometown of Yeovil has again been editing the ] article with unsourced positivity. Is the standard procedure to ask for semi-protection for sockpuppetry, and is this regularly given if there is only one miscreant at it? ] (]) 15:53, 1 December 2014 (UTC)
:If it's a sock, you might want to file an ] and ]. ] (]) 16:27, 1 December 2014 (UTC)

== Thatonebossdude again ==
Hello, User:Ian.Thompson. You probably remember me. I used to edit under the name Thatonebossdude. Trace my IP, you will find me. Well, I have decided to stop making defamatory articles and offensive edits. Rememeber the Blake Zarroff Article? Yep. That was me. I'm sorry. I am just a 14 year old kid who thought I could do stupid things by hiding behind a computer screen. Well, I realize my mistakes now. I would like to have a constructive impact on Misplaced Pages from this point forward. Please do not block me, as I have not, and will not make, any more offensive or defamatory edits. As long as no one makes me angry. I would like to write an article about my father who passed away in March. I want his memory to be immortalized on the internet somewhere, and I don't know a better place to start than Misplaced Pages. I would simply like to write a constructive article about my father's life to honor him. Is it okay for me to write this? Please respond soon, preferably on my talk page, although I have this page in my watchlist so it works to. Please get back to me as soon as possible. <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 00:33, 9 December 2014 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:See ]. Misplaced Pages does not host memorials to the deceased. Given your past behavior, you will have to understand if I believe you're just continuing to lie.
:The "as long as no one makes me angry" part is a good indication that you're still not ready to edit here. ] (]) 00:38, 9 December 2014 (UTC)

== ] opinion ==

I want you opinion on the sources/references and the article in general. I haven't completed the article as I am still working on the ''Conquest of Galilee''. — ] (]) 03:04, 9 December 2014 (UTC)
:Before I even look at the article, I'm just going to give the impractical blanket statement "All articles could always use more sources," because it's a ] I tell even myself.
:Actually looking at the article:
:*It's been dramatically improved from (good work!)
:*Ethen Allen's "Introduction to Biblical History" unfortunately does not meet ] since Lulu.com is a pay-to-print publisher (i.e. it's self published), so that citation needs to be replaced.
:*I could also imagine someone complaining about a coin collecting book (Sayles's Ancient Coin Collecting), but it's being cited for exactly what it should be cited for and nothing beyond that.
:*Otherwise, all the sources look good to me, though I'm mostly just checking titles and publishers. I could imagine someone complaining about a few of the publishers (e.g. Eerdmans) in an article on a more secular topic (like ] or something), but for the given subject matter, it's fine (if not unavoidable). Except Sayle and Allen, I did not check each source for ] or ], but I highly doubt that's necessary.
:Seems you did a Google Books search for sources, so you probably found all I could. Since this isn't an occult/magical topic, I don't think I have any potential additional sources on-hand. ] (]) 03:29, 9 December 2014 (UTC)
::I have replaced the untrusted source with a more reliable one. — ] (]) 06:13, 9 December 2014 (UTC)
::@] How would you better wright the section ''Galilee and Golan settlements'' better. The tone when I read seems a bit "plain". — ] (]) 21:28, 18 December 2014 (UTC)
:::{{ping|JudeccaXIII}} I will get to this, but I'm dern beat (several hours cleaning a house with all kinds of fun chemicals, it's a wonder I'm typing correctly), so probably not today. ] (]) 22:02, 18 December 2014 (UTC)
:::{{ping|JudeccaXIII}} I went ahead and ]ly tried to punch up the text. Feel free to revert, modify, or otherwise make use of what you will, of course. ] (]) 15:33, 19 December 2014 (UTC)

== New World Encyclopedia ==

Our articles rewritten by Moonies.. I guess you noticed that both Dever and Kitchen were misrepresented. ] (]) 15:07, 12 December 2014 (UTC)
:Huh, didn't know that. Well, at least it's not Scientologists. I actually didn't actually check to see if Dever and Kitchen were misrepresented, I just figured "if the edit includes those non-PBS sources, there's probably other problems." ] (]) 15:15, 12 December 2014 (UTC)

== Article on Zeus ==

Thank you for not omitting what was taught by Plato. That´s the least we can do to honour those who first tried to now and to teach us about the nature of the gods.

About the summary of site policies - they are fair. However,

-"Always cite a source for any new information": Although I admit my editings weren´t properly announced, nonetheless I provided the sources through a link. I don´t the see the problem with linking pages, do you?

-"Misplaced Pages does not tolerate copyright violations or plagiarism": none of them did I do.

-"Truth" is not the criteria for inclusion, verifiability is": funny you mention it, because people want to stress "indo-european" origins of words, when they´re nothing but hypothesis. It´s an academic study alright, but it´s not verifiable proof of anything. Just merely conjectures.

-"Articles are to be written from a neutral point of view": I contributed according to the view greek philosophy. If this is biased, then the others who contributed according to the indo-european etymology of the name of Zeus are biased too, because: a) it has not been proven, it´s still an hypothesis. b) they want to attribute it an indo-european orogin by force. If that´s not biased, I don´t know what is. c) The connection between the names Zeus, Deus and sanskrit Deva or Dyaus are irrelevant to the point in question. Zeus was a greek god, perceived according to greek mentality, philosophy and religious thought. One cannot learn about the name and nature of Zeus by studying Deus or Dyaus. Irrelsvant and idiotic.

-"Material must be proportionate to what is found in the source cited": targeting the inquiring mind of the readers on the nature of Zeus, my contribution was even in itself, and to the point. To say otherwise just shows partiality towards indo-european linguistics and rejection of the primary sources on the gods.

-"We do not give equal validity to topics which reject and are rejected by mainstream academia": like I said previously, the mainstream academia hypothesize on the indo-european origin of names, that´s all. I shouldn´t have deleted that information, I confess, but what is known about the names of the gods in greek philosophy shouldn´t be omitted either. In the overall, indo-european etymologies, not only are they highly doubtfull, they are also irrelevant to the article in question. Zeus, not Deus nor Dyaus. Can you tell me who Zeus is? Who expounds on Zeus? The latin flamen? The hindu bramans? Indo-european linguists? I don´t think so...

Merry Christmass by the way!

Nemoswlew 17:51, 19 December 2014 (UTC)

:A number of the guidelines and policies I suggested were not necessarily commentaries on your edits so far, but guessing about future edits from those. Your heavy quoting was a touch unfriendly with copyright. ], so we do not encourage anyone (regardless of whatever their beliefs are) to ]. Merely summarizing academic descriptions of those beliefs is fine, but your bias towards ancient Greek thinking will receive about as warm a welcome as ]. Modern academia does more than conjecture, they have to provide evidence that is peer-reviewed. Misplaced Pages does not engage in either ], but does consider sources that have gone done the research and gone through peer review ]. In the case of etymology, scholars have not merely pointed out similarities between Zeus, Deus, Tiwas, and Dyeus, but have found that the majority of words in Greek, Latin, German, Sanskrit, and many other ] share both similar meaning and sound (with ], such as ]). Greek is not some eternal language, it is as mortal as any other tongue.
:Believe whatever you want, but Misplaced Pages operates on what the majority of scholars have observed, not on oracles or prophets. ] (]) 18:29, 19 December 2014 (UTC)

Thanks. I´ll throw my Plato's books in the trash because they´re just"conjectures". Now I know that if I study Indo-european, I´ll find out all want to know about Zeus, who is Deus, and Dyaus. Oh my, will have to delve into hinduism now as well? I wonder how there are wiki pages about hinduism, or relgion for that matter. Afterall, the proof that Dyaus-Pitar exists lies only in the mind of those who wrote about him. That´s not very very scientifical after all...
Nemoswlew 20:07, 19 December 2014 (UTC)

:You don't seem to understand the difference between objective and subjective claims. Whether Zeus, Dyaus-Pitar, or any other god exists or doesn't exist is subjective. That Deus and Dyaus have similar sound and meaning, and belong to languages that share a lot of likewise similar words -- that's pretty objective. Whatever gods we should worship (if any) is subjective, but it is objective to say that there are people who worship Brahman, there are people who worship Allah, there are people who do not worship any gods, and so forth.
:Misplaced Pages operates on objective knowledge, and its discussion of subjective beliefs is only objective outside documentation of those beliefs.
:As I said, believe whatever you want, but Misplaced Pages operates on what the majority of scholars have observed -- i.e. objective information. ] (]) 20:16, 19 December 2014 (UTC)

Oh yes I do. The whole of greek mythology is based on subjective reasonings and claims. They were merely written figuratively. In fact, most of our current knowledge is also subjective in some way, we just assume it truth, because there´s no other way to prove it objectively. Our own senses, especially sight, operate on non-direct knowledge, but associations, reasonings - subjective therefore, because objectively some things cannot be proven. So if we accept that which our sight claims as true, but is in fact indirect knowledge, why do we reject that which is also indirectly inferred through reasoning? Do we need an extra eye to see that there is e.g., what is called the "black/invisible sun"? First, we can´t see it with physical eyes because its light is not physical. Still it illuminates the ideas tha our mind works with, without which we would be able to physically see, like animals do, but not comprehend, analyse and synthesize the forms mentally, that is, to have an insight, an inner-sight. These two sights, the physical and mental differ in substance, and like Plato alluded to in the Allegory of the Cave, some will always prefer the common sight to the insight and stay inside the cave of irrational illumined forms - not that they can´t appreciate insight - but because the irrational sometimes (or almost the time) is preferred over the rational. When there´s a rational in the first place of course :) Nemoswlew 21:03, 19 December 2014 (UTC)

== Request for review ==
Ian.thomson, you might be surprised about me asking you to comment on ]. We have a common experience with zealots from the ] article and that draft is born out of the need of an enlightened perspective on a faith related topic. ;) As said, I ask for comments, from you or someone you might recommand. ] (]) 19:33, 19 December 2014 (UTC)
:I'm afraid that's a touch outside of my range, and I'm getting a slight impression that there'd be some cognitive dissonance for one or both of us if I got involved. I'm more of a humanities geek, with my interest in science being more focused on biology. ] (]) 20:29, 19 December 2014 (UTC)
:: I would welcome cognitive dissonances from your side, but I think the point about biology is important. I will try at the mining portal, the first guy providing constructive points was a geologist. ] (]) 00:27, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

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To-do: red plastic gas cans

These things are ubiquitous in the US (or at least any part I've been to) but we don't have an article on them. Like, I've only ever seen three consistent models (each different sizes of the same basic pattern) and looking online, it looks like those are the only three models that have been allowed since the gas crisis in the '70s.

I've got a lot of other things on my plate, but I think these might be sufficient sources for someone (me, anyone else, whoever) to write up an article on them:

The last source definitely doesn't establish WP:NOTE and I'd normally be wary of anyone insisting that it be used. Still, I think they also discuss regulatory info and maybe manufacturing history. Given the news sources (all of which are "oh shit, these things are exploding again" and "please stop doing things to make them explode"), I think it's safe to say that its inclusion probably won't amount to promotion.

I'm not sure that this would accomplish much more than a stub, at least with my usual "summarize, paraphrase, combine overlapping statements" approach. Ian.thomson (talk) 22:21, 12 October 2018 (UTC)

I saw this up in your table of contents. Those damned things are a colossal nuisance , I finally found a brand that allows better control of flow and doesn't end up slopping gas all over the lawnmower, generator, or tiller. The mesh screen appears nowadays to be broadly used. They also come in yellow for diesel and blue for kerosene. Acroterion (talk) 01:19, 30 December 2018 (UTC)
I am remembering my dad using blue barrels made of the same material for kerosene back when we had a space heater but yeah, I do see the same design in blue and yellow. (I think he got them on sale, I'm not sure I've seen them in stores ever again, and boy hell were they trouble to get rid of). Guess I need to look for sources on the diesel and kerosene ones and figure out what the industry name is for this family of cans. They're not Jerrycans (which is where gas can currently redirects): they're broader, have a handle on the back, and the stamping on the sides is just embossed warning text (not a structural feature). (I'm sure you know but other talk page watchers who haven't opened the links might be wondering why I want to reinvent the Jerrycan).
There's another gas can design that I'm seeing, "Safety gas cans," which I suppose needs to be written about as well. Basically squat half-capsule mini-barrels with a handle and spout on the flatly rounded top. They're why I haven't just made "gas can" about the red plastic ones, since we really need "gas can" to be a disambig between the standard plastic, the Jerrycan, and the safety gas cans. Thanks for helping me realize that. Ian.thomson (talk) 01:38, 30 December 2018 (UTC)
I'm accumulating a museum of gas cans. I got two of the safety cans after squirrels started eating the plastic ones. After that generation of squirrels died they seem to have stopped munching plastic and confine themselves to the house, so now I have some plastic ones that are easier to handle, and a yellow one in case we run out of heating oil - I can get off-road diesel and use that in a pinch. I think fuel container is a safe generic term. Acroterion (talk) 01:49, 30 December 2018 (UTC)

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I should have announced this sooner but it just kinda crept up on me. Between various issues (less prep time at work, trying to affordably diet and exercise better), I've just not had enough energy when I'm home beyond what I need to get ready for the next work day or upcoming week.

I've bought some sources to expand articles on Goetic demons, though. I may work some on that without fully coming off of the Wikibreak. Ian.thomson (talk) 23:10, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

Hi Ian - we haven't interacted much, so sorry for coming out of the blue, but I wanted to tell you that when I was in my 'I have an account, but I mostly just read stuff without commenting' stage, your contributions were a real inspiration for me to actually get involved. You were one of the most active editors on some of the pages I was interested in, and I saw your name come up time and again attached to sensible, rational comments. So, yeah - I'm a fan.
Anyone deserves and can self-award a break whenever they want to; I'd suggest that you have definitely earned one if you feel like it, and should take as long as you need/want. If you want to do some article-writing without engaging with admin stuff (or anything else) you're still doing good work - thank you! Girth Summit (blether) 23:21, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
I am going to pile on here as another "out of the blue" editor. I don't think we have ever interacted directly at all but you have certainly provided value to me as an editor (and no doubt to Misplaced Pages as a whole) and that does not go away because you have other things to focus on whether that shift in focus is temporary or permanent. Now go get some exercise! :) S0091 (talk) 21:32, 15 August 2021 (UTC)

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Every two weeks, when my email login expires and I have to log back in, I get the notification that "I" have too many failed logins and need to reset my password. Even after almost a year of inactivity, this is still the case. To the asshole(s) doing that, you could have made bank on crypto by now, and I'm saying that as someone who thinks all cryptocurrency is a scam.

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On top of that, over the past decade, I've spent half of it on the other side of the world from my hometown. Though this has just slowed the rate at which I was growing tired, it hasn't stopped it.

I'm fucking sick of it all. I'd say "Nazis can all go to hell" but that's like telling shit to stink. Wait, no, at least shit has enough sense that it doesn't need to be told to do that.

I do want to come back. I'm aware that we'll never "go back to normal," that there is not and will never be a "new normal," that normal was always a monsterous lie, and that order is nothing but the local flavor of chaos. That thinking is actually kinda why I got along here as well as I did.

I do enjoy non-contentious admin work. Going through new user names and blocking obvious troll or spam accounts before anyone else can even report them is actually fun.

I have a bunch of new sources for Goetia related articles as well as sources for the Shams al-Ma'arif article.

I'm tired of pretending I prioritize WP:5P over WP:NONAZIS. I know enough about the site to know that saying that's going to bite me on the ass and that that that's not going to work well with my other plans to return. Going to be thinking about it but I'm certain there's no outcome I'm going to be happy with. Ian.thomson (talk) 09:36, 4 May 2022 (UTC)

Hi Ian - I came across your username just now while reading an old thread, and realised I hadn't seen you around in a while. I came here, and read this. All I can say is this: when I was a newb, you were one of the people who inspired me. I saw lots of sensible, level-headed comments and actions from you, and I thought 'Hey, Misplaced Pages is a little bit of the internet where there are good people running things. Maybe I could get involved here.' Do what's best for you, of course, but I wanted you to know that you made a difference, for me at least. Girth Summit (blether) 23:44, 8 December 2022 (UTC)

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