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Blocks are the most serious things we can do: they prevent users from interacting with Misplaced Pages. Block reviews are urgent. Unless I say otherwise in the block message on the user's talk page, I am happy for any uninvolved admin to unblock a user I have blocked, provided that there is good evidence that the problem that caused the block will not be repeated. All I ask is that you leave a courtesy note here and/or on ], and that you are open to re-blocking if I believe the problem is not resolved - in other words, you can undo the block, but if I strongly feel that the issue is still live, you re-block and we take it to the admin boards. The same applies in spades to blocks with talk page access revoked. You are free to restore talk page access of a user for whom I have revoked it, unless it's been imposed or restored following debate on the admin boards. |
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The usual definition of uninvolved applies: you're not currently in an argument with me, you're not part of the original dispute or an editor of the affected article... you know. Apply ]. <b>]</b> <small>(])</small> 20:55, 11 April 2014 (UTC) |
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Hi ]! I was going through some old ArbCom cases and ran into one where you had added some statements. I realized that I haven't spoken to you in quite some time, and I see that you haven't made any edits since May... That sucks! I don't want to see someone like you go! If anything, I hope that you're doing well and that you're happy and that you'll someday return here. I just wanted to leave you a message and let you know that I was thinking about you... Keep in touch. :-) ]<sup><small><b>] ]</b></small></sup> 23:05, 9 January 2022 (UTC) |
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Hello Guy, thank you for your action on the above article stopping the edit war initiated by ]. The same deletions have now been made under a unregistered IP 24.114.68.254, again without explanation. This could well be a sock of the banned "editor". I have no intention of keep reverting, thereby causing an edit war, but wonder if the article should be protected for a period? Regards, David, ] (]) 14:24, 4 January 2015 (UTC) |
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: Dear oh dear. That's an indef and semi-protection then. <b>]</b> <small>(])</small> 17:55, 4 January 2015 (UTC) |
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:: Thanks for all your help. Best regards, David, ] (]) 23:28, 4 January 2015 (UTC) |
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== Homeopathy == |
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Hi, i am interested in introduce aspects about the history of the homeopathy, for example, you can see in ], there are the history of the acupunture. Regards. --] (]) 07:40, 5 January 2015 (UTC) |
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: We have more than enough detail on the period before homeopathy was understood to be nonsense. Additional data points for the breadth of the delusion are not needed. <b>]</b> <small>(])</small> 10:05, 5 January 2015 (UTC) |
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--] <small>(] • ])</small> 13:24, 8 January 2015 (UTC) |
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: Guess what? Involved editors are not allowed to issue DS notifications. I think you may be on the way to bannination, I certainly hope so. <b>]</b> <small>(])</small> 21:23, 8 January 2015 (UTC) |
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::{{tps}}I don't think thats true, could you point me to where it says only uninvolved editors may notify? (This affects some other areas I am involved in is why I am poking my nose here) ] says "Any editor" FYI] (]) 21:25, 8 January 2015 (UTC) |
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::Not that it particularly matters; Guy has participated in AE-related proceedings at some point in the past year.<p>I'm going to have to remember this quote somewhere for the future: "Wikipedians do not want to cite what the number 1 blog of world writes about them---it is kind of disturbing" '''<font color="navy">]</font>''' ''(<font color="green">]</font>)'' 20:58, 9 January 2015 (UTC) |
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==Notification: filing concerning you at ]== |
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Hi Guy, I've asked at WP:AE that you be warned for misrepresenting scientific consensus re acupuncture's efficacy, as you did and have numerous other times: |
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--] <small>(] • ])</small> 13:39, 8 January 2015 (UTC) |
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: Your hubris is exceeded only by your chutzpah. <b>]</b> <small>(])</small> 14:08, 8 January 2015 (UTC) |
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::A few years ago, people expected the level of craziness around here would improve after a few years. After seeing this, it seems pretty clear that nothing has changed or things have worsened - I don't know which it is though. ] (]) 16:36, 8 January 2015 (UTC) |
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:::@ {{U|Ncmvocalist}}: I wouldn't say crazy, but it is illogical to assert a consensus when you have only sources that show a significant view -- ''let alone'' when those sources are contradicted by equally good sources. This is NPOV 101. I think we are seeing confirmation bias, cf. what Feynman said about it being so easy to fool one's self. Nobody is immune to that, and here we plainly have a situation where editors can't meet the burden of evidence, yet persist in asserting their stance. --] <small>(] • ])</small> 22:34, 8 January 2015 (UTC) |
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::::: So you keep assereting. Meanwhile, anatomy books ocntinue not to include meridians or acupoints. You are in denial, and you are taking the piss. Go away. <b>]</b> <small>(])</small> 22:35, 8 January 2015 (UTC) |
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:::::: If by "go away" you really mean I am unwelcome here, no problemo, but I've never been a dick toward you and am not starting now. I gotta say: you keep conflating TCM ideas with efficacy, but they're not equivalent. There's no reason that acu can't be effective just because there's no literal qi or meridians. The "mechanism" for eclipses used to be that a serpent swallowed the sun or moon, but they could still predict eclipses. --] <small>(] • ])</small> 23:04, 8 January 2015 (UTC) |
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::::::: Your is duly noted. I will be sure to double-check my understanding of the scientific consensus with Edzard next time I see him. <b>]</b> <small>(])</small> 23:13, 8 January 2015 (UTC) |
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:::::::: I thought "WTF? ]!" too when I got templated, but: . .... You KNOW Ernst??? Golly, I'll be glad to quit worrying about finding sources, knowing that now that you can just ask the dude. :-) We'll need a new template for that: <nowiki>{{GuysaidErnstsaid |date= |topicarea= |consensus=}}</nowiki> --] <small>(] • ])</small> 11:26, 9 January 2015 (UTC) |
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::::::::: That would be a great idea if only I subscribed to the fallacy of appeal to authority, which I don't. I do, however, have a ready way of finding useful and pertinent information. <b>]</b> <small>(])</small> 13:05, 9 January 2015 (UTC) |
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:::::::::: It must be fun to know him, he seems like quite a character, a fine mind. The fact that the objects of his ire are not infrequently ''academics'' (there's even the word, quackademics) -- as opposed to off-the-grid quacks -- says to me that there's a big slice of mainstream POV that hasn't yet come around. .... But this AE thing is less than useful and I am sorry I brought it up there. --] <small>(] • ])</small> 19:35, 9 January 2015 (UTC) |
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{{replyto|Middle 8}}, what you've described is not what I was referring to as craziness. One example of craziness is that an administrator (who also acts for arbcom) seems to have focused his comment on JzG's "incivility" in-reply to your remarkably inappropriate invocation of discretionary sanctions here, and did not even bother to address concerns of tendentious editing. I have noticed this type of thing happening in earlier years and it was becoming less common, but it is mind-boggling that such a foolish approach is adopted even now. Until the source of the issue which is enabling and promoting this type of approach is found, little can be done. Is it the community, arbcom, Jimbo...? ] (]) 11:19, 9 January 2015 (UTC) |
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:{{U|Ncmvocalist}}, agree that the obsession with "incivility" is nuts. Why? Why fiddle with process while content burns.... why arguing about stuff when the stakes are so low.... --] <small>(] • ])</small> 19:35, 9 January 2015 (UTC) |
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== Universal Medicine == |
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Hello, I had a go at editing the Universal Medicine page in my Sandbox as with all the edits that have gone on, it is starting to appear really disjointed. I've introduced further section headings and moved text around, but not deleted anything (hopefully, if I have it was a mistake on my part!). In respect of the requests for no further significant changes on the page, I did not want to apply anything to the page itself. Could you have a look over the draft and see what you think? ] (]) 16:24, 8 January 2015 (UTC) |
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Hi. Nothing major, but in your AE statement, you put "anatomy" where I think you meant "acupuncture" -- 2nd graf after boxed quote from JIM. |
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:I hope it goes without saying, despite the fact that I'm saying it, that many of us feel the same way. Happy new year ]] 23:13, 9 January 2022 (UTC) |
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BTW, I agree with you entirely. Best, ] (]) 23:20, 8 January 2015 (UTC) |
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::We didn't cross paths very often lately, JzG, but we could really use you back. If you get the urge to return, please say "Yes!" <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:#800080;">]</span> <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">] ]</sup> 01:14, 15 January 2022 (UTC) |
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:::October JzG sighting at ]. Does my heart good. --] (]) 20:57, 25 October 2022 (UTC) |
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::::Lovely to hear from you! I have spent the past two-and-a-bit years working at incredibly high stress for a hospital. In that time I have retired around 80% of their legacy application and server estate, instituted architectural guidelines and piloted the process for demand review, reduced the measured risk burden by around 80%, instituted objective risk monitoring using ], and I've just proposed (and had accepted) a plan to remediate or mitigate most of the rest. I have, in short, been busy in that there real life of which you read, and that really wasn't going to fit in with having to be nice to people who sincerely believe that Ashlii Babbit was the real victim of the "legitimate political discourse" on Jan 6 2020. |
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::::I have a week's leave. I have 28 days to take before year end, having managed I think three days off this year so far (including weekends). And because I have an offshore team and an onshore customer, my working day can be 8am to 3am. |
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::::I thought I'd drop in :-) ''']''' <small>(] - ])</small> 18:44, 26 October 2022 (UTC) |
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:::::Yikes, sounds like, umm..., a lot of responsibility. There will be plenty for you to do here when you are free! ] (]) 22:50, 26 October 2022 (UTC) |
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:::::Glad you dropped by! ] (]) 02:19, 27 October 2022 (UTC) |
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:::::Glad to hear you're OK - and busy, by the sounds of things! Hope you enjoy your break. ]] 11:17, 27 October 2022 (UTC) |
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::::::If Guy doesn't look at ] real soon now, where Eddy is being accused of plagiarism, I may be forced to contact him on bookfarce. That would mean giving Guy my real name. He always forgets me. - ]the ] 16:00, 27 October 2022 (UTC) |
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:::::::I try never to remember people's RW names unless they are "out" on Misplaced Pages. Even when they out themselves, this has led to huge problems, e.g. with a user whose identity was revealed by accident off-wiki, showing him to be the source of fact-washing his own side in Misplaced Pages disputes via a journalist. That ended badly for everyone. ''']''' <small>(] - ])</small> 16:16, 27 October 2022 (UTC) |
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::::::::Very happy see the little JzG! ] ] ] 19:56, 27 October 2022 (UTC). |
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:::::Hah! Good to see you're still around! ] 20:48, 27 October 2022 (UTC) |
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::::::This is a few months late, but welcome back! Wishing you well. ''']] (])''' 09:40, 12 December 2022 (UTC) |
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:Welcome indeed! Just came across your signature ]. It's always great to run in to another 'old-timer'. Hope you're well, ] <sup><b>(])</b></sup> 11:21, 23 May 2023 (UTC) |
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The result of , filed against you by Middle 8, is that both parties are to be warned. Accordingly, you are hereby warned to adhere to the standards of decorum expected of editors, especially those working in controversial topic areas; this includes abiding by the maxim of commenting on content, not on contributors. Further, you are warned not to invoke your status as an administrator during disputes—as I'm sure you are well aware, when discussing content, administrators are just any other editor, an their additional privileges are irrelevant. Bringing up yo administrator status can cause confusion as to which capacity your are acting in, and could potentially have a chilling effect on the willingness of non-administrators to engage with you in content discussions. Should you fail to adhere to this warning, there is a high probability that you will face substantive sanctions in the future. This warning will be logged as a discretionary sanction at the appropriate page, as will the warning to Middle 8. ] | ] 01:23, 11 January 2015 (UTC) |
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: The "chilling effect" is the vexatious attempt by Middle8 to gain an advantage in a content dispute through use of AE. There was no "incivility", merely terseness. Infinite patience with vexatious requests is an unreasonable demand. <b>]</b> <small>(])</small> 08:57, 11 January 2015 (UTC) |
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::{{TPS}} Typical Lunatic Charlatan tactic, and an over the top warning. -] (]) 12:06, 11 January 2015 (UTC) |
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::: Well, quite. The cited examples of "incivility" were actually just me pointing out Middle8's involvement with acupuncture is a COI and that he cannot possibly judge the neutrality of his edits. If we're not allowed to point out these obvious facts, how the fuck are we supposed to control POV-pushing? However, the very next time he abuses processs, he'll be in front of ArbCom. On past evidence it won't take long. <b>]</b> <small>(])</small> 13:43, 11 January 2015 (UTC) |
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