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== January music == | ||
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| Happy new year 2025, opened with ] that first sounded OTD in 1725 (as the Main page has). - I saw ] by Rimsky-Korsakov, - see ]. -- ] (]) 17:41, 1 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| :Happy New Year! ] (]) 20:47, 1 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| :: Did you listen to the music? (Take the last movement if you have little time, but the yt not the lilypond). --] (]) 21:57, 1 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| :::Not yet. Home tomorrow. Will try then. ] (]) 00:22, 2 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| :::: ], my ] 300 years after the first performance, is up for GAN. ] will be my story tomorrow. --] (]) 21:23, 6 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| ::::: Lovely! Keep up the good work. ] (]) 23:18, 6 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| :::::: I try ;) - My ] is about a composer who influenced music history also by writing. --] (]) 10:03, 8 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| :::::::Fascinating. I had never heard of him. ] (]) 17:50, 8 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| :::::::: same for me --] (]) 20:20, 8 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| ::::::::: Happy birthday! I'm at a birthday celebration ;) - enjoy! --] (]) 11:34, 11 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| ::::::::: back home - today a violinist from Turkey, ], whom you can watch playing Schubert chamber music --] (]) 21:57, 13 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| {{od}} Thanks! I missed your first message. I had quite a good day. I'll have a look at the article now. ] (]) 22:37, 13 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| : Thank you! - Today, ], ], in memory of her first appearance on stage OTD in 1900, and of principal author ]. --] (]) 18:47, 14 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| : Today I have ] (trumpeter, conductor) on the main page who worked closely with ] who became GA yesterday, - small world! To celebrate: mostly flowers pics from vacation ;) --] (]) 20:15, 20 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| ::Fascinating. Why was his composing debut unplanned? Sounds like a good story that should be explained in the article, if possible. ] (]) 22:02, 20 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| ::: His conducting debut was unplanned, and if I don't hear anything else, I assume someone who was planned couldn't make it (sick, delayed). Did you read about ] (at my favourite opera house) who suddenly - watching a performance as a spectator - ran when a medical need was announced, and had to face the question if he was willing to conduct the rest rest of an opera he had never conducted before? - Today ] and a hidden cat ;) - There would be more from the Guardian obit, if you had extra time ... too much just in the table, without nuance, assuming that readers know who wrote these plays when ... --] (]) 21:57, 22 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| ::::I might have time on Friday. ] (]) 00:23, 23 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| ::::: Thank you for the offer, - she left the main page already, so the service would only be for posterity. - Of all the recent deaths I have watched, more people were interested right after the notice of her death than when it was on the main page. --] (]) 08:04, 23 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| == Lake Michigan Monster == | |||
| — ''']''' (]) 02:12, 1 March 2015 (UTC) | |||
| :Thank you, I will. --] (]) 10:39, 1 March 2015 (UTC) | |||
| hey, it has been a while since I have done major work on '']''. I am thinking of putting it up for FA nomination, however I wanted to run by you first to see if all the prose is the high quality it needs to be and if there are parts I should work on. ] (]) 22:04, 5 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| == Uncommunicative editing by IP 91.122.2.96 == | |||
| :Looks pretty good to me. What does {{u|Ceoil}} think? ] (]) 22:33, 5 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| ::He has not been on the past week or so and has not replied to a chat I sent. I guess we will have to wait and see.--] (]) 23:13, 5 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
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| John, can you possibly warn @91.122.2.96 about his/her uncommunicative edits on wikipages Action (physics), Planck constant, and Zero-energy universe? @Hroðulf has also tried to work constructively with the situation. Thanks, ] (]) 18:21, 1 March 2015 (UTC) | |||
| :I blocked them for their combative behaviour. --] (]) 19:25, 1 March 2015 (UTC) | |||
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| This showed amazing resilience for such young guys. I'd like to emphasise N.O. more in the lead; for me JD is more about Summer and Mr Hannet than Curtis. Though I started life as a bass player, cough. ] (]) 03:15, 8 March 2015 (UTC) | |||
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| :Funny you should say that, I was a bass player at one time too. I liked both bands very much, but I think I (slightly) went off NO latterly. JD and Curtis benefited from the Marilyn Munro effect; by dying young and beautiful they became heroes for ever. --] (]) 12:03, 8 March 2015 (UTC) | |||
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| ::Hmm, if I think about it, the scattering of songs that I am really fond of over the whole period (1977-present) are pretty even (Isolation/Transmission/No Love Lost as my 3 preferred JD tracks - Ceremony/Age of Consent/Everythings Gone Green/True Faith/Jetstream fave NO tracks). Funny thing is of my 2 older kids, my son prefers JD and daughter NO. Agree about Munro effect - even happened to INXS, who by the time of MH's passing were descending into mediocrity. ] (] '''·''' ]) 01:02, 9 March 2015 (UTC) | |||
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| ::Oh heh! I didn't know that's a thing. ] (]) 22:38, 6 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
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| :::Yes, now we can all see why users ] to become ] and/or ]. Yay! ] (]) 22:46, 6 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| |style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" | I stumbled upon your handling of a certain T— — for the past few months and skimmed a very little bit. Your patience, Sir John, Sir, was epic. | |||
| *Many thanks, {{u|ToBeFree}} and thanks for the really nice message and carefully crafted template. ] (]) 00:24, 7 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
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| :Thank you, I appreciate your comments very much. --] (]) 12:03, 8 March 2015 (UTC) | |||
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| {{archive top|Article semi'ed, nothing more to discuss here. --] (]) 23:43, 10 March 2015 (UTC)}} | |||
| == Nomination for merger of ] == | |||
| Greetings John! I was wondering if you had time to have a quick look at the article ]? There seems to be some problems with a few IP editors: 2.27.78.251, 2.27.78.13, and 163.167.125.215. I'll try to explain the problem with a few bullet points real simple and short: | |||
| ]] has been ] with ]. You are invited to comment on the discussion at ] on the Templates for discussion page. Thank you.<!--Template:Tfmnotice--> '''--]]''' 15:04, 20 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| # The first IP editor added a section about ''Manchester Unity Credit Union'' on 25th February, but the text couldn't be verified by the source. | |||
| # I rewrote the first paragraph on 8th March in such a way that it would correspond what the source actually said. | |||
| # My edit got reverted, however, by the second IP with an Edit Summary "''rv.''"; the source still couldn't verify the text. | |||
| # I reverted this unexplained edit back to the previous version, but it got reverted by the same IP editor again, this time with an Edit Summary of "''inelegant prose''". | |||
| # I messaged the IP editor's Talk Page, and explained him that the source does not support the text, and asked him to address what's exactly wrong with my edit instead of mere blind objection. | |||
| # While waiting for the user to reply, I tagged the paragraph with <nowiki>{{fv}}</nowiki>, and the paragraph right below with <nowiki>{{citation needed}}</nowiki>. This got reverted by the third IP editor per "''rv. not controversial statement''". As far as I am concerned, one has right to tag unsourced pieces of text per ]. I believe the same applies to pieces of text that have failed verification. | |||
| # I restored the tags with an Edit Summary: "''The first paragraph is not supported by the source, and the second paragraph clearly lacks of a souce | I've asked an admin to take a look at this''", and shortly after the same IP editor removed the tags again, this time by saying that "''rv. for reasons already given''" | |||
| It seems there have suddenly popped up three different IP editors, all editing over the same content, and all of which seem to share the same interest towards credit unions according to their user contributions. Do you think they might be socks? I hope you have time to take a look, thanks. ] (]) 11:57, 10 March 2015 (UTC) | |||
| :I set out the sequence of events . You will see that ] is making a habit of bad faith accusations. ] (]) 14:56, 10 March 2015 (UTC) | |||
| ::Yepp, when I asked for the page protection, I mistakenly reported only one IP instead of two. After that, a third IP has already appeared. ] (]) 17:43, 10 March 2015 (UTC) | |||
| :::I've protected one week and removed the dubious material per WP:V. I agree something looked dodgy about those edits. --] (]) 21:45, 10 March 2015 (UTC) | |||
| ::::Er, what looked dodgy exactly? ] (]) 22:05, 10 March 2015 (UTC) (same user as 163.167.125.215). | |||
| :::::Sourcing, promotion, and the impression that the three IPs are tag teaming. --] (]) 22:07, 10 March 2015 (UTC) | |||
| ::::::<small>]s, ? ] (]) 22:25, 10 March 2015 (UTC) </small> | |||
| :::::::I wish! --] (]) 22:38, 10 March 2015 (UTC) | |||
| ::::::I have edited from two computers (one with dynamic IP address) at different times of the day. I shouldn't have to point out that ]. ] (]) 22:48, 10 March 2015 (UTC) | |||
| :::::::]. Thanks for admitting you were editing from different IPs, that helps. Your next move would be to go to article talk and give reasons for the changes you wish to make. --] (]) 22:52, 10 March 2015 (UTC) | |||
| ::::::::What difference should it make what my IP address is? I have not acted improperly or dishonestly. ] was bold, I reverted. ]? ] thought it was to begin an edit war and accuse me of a "high level of IP vandalism" and "making the same controversial edits over and over again" at ]. When that failed, (s)he accused me of sock puppetry. ] (]) 23:12, 10 March 2015 (UTC) | |||
| :::::::::Glad we've cleared that up. Your next move would be to go to article talk and give reasons for the changes you wish to make. --] (]) 23:34, 10 March 2015 (UTC) | |||
| ::::::::::Okay, I see I'm talking to a brick wall. Thanks for the fair hearing. ] (]) 23:37, 10 March 2015 (UTC) | |||
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January music
Happy new year 2025, opened with trumpet fanfares that first sounded OTD in 1725 (as the Main page has). - I saw a lovely opera by Rimsky-Korsakov, - see here. -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:41, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
Lake Michigan Monsterhey, it has been a while since I have done major work on Lake Michigan Monster. I am thinking of putting it up for FA nomination, however I wanted to run by you first to see if all the prose is the high quality it needs to be and if there are parts I should work on. Paleface Jack (talk) 22:04, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
+rollbackHi John, as a former administrator and thus obviously also a former rollbacker, you won't need the following information. But getting a permission (and granting it, admittedly) would only be half as enjoyable (to me, admittedly) without the message I customized for this purpose. So I absolutely have to. Feel free to remove it and welcome back! ~ ToBeFree (talk) 22:27, 6 January 2025 (UTC)  Hi John, After reviewing your request, I have added your account to the rollback group. Keep in mind these things when using rollback:
To try rollback for the first time, you may like to make an edit to WP:Sandbox, and another one, and another one, and then revert the row with one click. I'm sure you'll do great with rollback, but feel free to leave me a message on my talk page if you run into trouble or have any questions about rollback. Thank you for your time and work in cleaning up Misplaced Pages. Happy editing! Best regards,
Happy Birthday!
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