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== January music == |
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Happy new year 2025, opened with ] that first sounded OTD in 1725 (as the Main page has). - I saw ] by Rimsky-Korsakov, - see ]. --] (]) 17:14, 1 January 2025 (UTC) |
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:Frohes neues Jahr! ♦ ] 19:15, 1 January 2025 (UTC) |
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:: Danke! --] (]) 19:32, 1 January 2025 (UTC) |
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:: ], my ] 300 years after the first performance, is up for GAN. ] will be my story tomorrow. --] (]) 21:08, 6 January 2025 (UTC) |
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== Something I ran into == |
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:: My ] is about a composer who influenced music history also by writing. Did you watch Masilo talk and dance? --] (]) 09:53, 8 January 2025 (UTC) |
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:::No, but nobody "dies unexpectedly" at 39 without a valid reason! ♦ ] 09:03, 9 January 2025 (UTC) |
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has litho plates from issues of ''The Building News'' for the years 1873-1881 at the link. They were scanned by the New York Public Library, but unfortunately, are not in any particular order. You need to simply go through the volumes (and do it using the reader's scroll mode or it will all roll up and you'll not see a thing) if you know something you want was in the journal. A much larger copy of ] came out of it and a ground floor plan ] which might be useful as it was published with the image of the house. :) ] (]) 00:07, 1 March 2015 (UTC) |
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:BTW-the scans are set up so that every other page is blank, so don't let that concern you if use them. ] (]) 00:11, 1 March 2015 (UTC) |
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:::: Short illness. - Today a violinist from Turkey, ], whom you can watch playing Schubert chamber music --] (]) 21:53, 13 January 2025 (UTC) |
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:::: ... and today, ], ], in memory of her first appearance on stage OTD in 1900, and of principal author ]. --] (]) 18:43, 14 January 2025 (UTC) |
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:::: ] today who directed lasting performances --] (]) 21:40, 16 January 2025 (UTC) |
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Thanks for this! Didn't see this yesterday, sorry about that!♦ ] 09:11, 2 March 2015 (UTC) |
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:::: Today I have ] (trumpeter, conductor) on the main page who worked closely with ] who became GA yesterday, - small world! To celebrate: mostly flowers pics from vacation ;) --] (]) 20:00, 20 January 2025 (UTC) |
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:::::Congrats on another GA, GA (Gerda Arendt)! ♦ ] 10:56, 21 January 2025 (UTC) |
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:::::: Thank you - yes, I see that my initials are a program ;) - #3 this year. - That one was especially difficult, first all the referencing trouble when he died last year, and now all the rephrasing trouble when the GA reviewer noticed that the original prose was mostly taken word by word - long before I ever looked at his article - from some blog. Great collaboration, as I love it. --] (]) 11:01, 21 January 2025 (UTC) |
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:::::: Today ] and a hidden cat ;) --] (]) 21:44, 22 January 2025 (UTC) |
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It's OK to remove this message. Also, to stop receiving these messages, follow these ]. Thanks, ] (]) 08:56, 1 March 2015 (UTC) |
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== ] again == |
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I've opened a peer review. It really needs some American eyes on it, to vet my attempts at American spelling and to check for any transatlantic solecisms that will make American readers wince. If you can find the time I'd be most obliged. ] (]) 21:25, 1 March 2015 (UTC) |
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Would that be Welsh American eyes {{u|Brianboulton}} :-)? {{u|Rosiestep}} you're needed!♦ ] 21:47, 1 March 2015 (UTC) |
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{{u|Brianboulton}}, I'm working on it. It doesn't need much, as you can see. I'm about halfway through. --] (]) 05:04, 2 March 2015 (UTC) |
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Thanks Rosie! I do actually kind of feel American on here though, I do think a lot of people probably assumed I was American before realising that my times of editing are very un American!♦ ] 09:08, 2 March 2015 (UTC) |
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:Yes,I had assumed that you were an insomniac American with a strange interest in British buildings, culture etc. Well, there we are – thanks for putting me right, and even more for finding someone to do the chore I laid on you! ] (]) 09:43, 2 March 2015 (UTC) |
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Hehe, understandable, a lot of Americans are fascinated in British architecture and geography of course. You'd think ] would have been very much written by an American wouldn't you! Well, I guess We hope did help contribute a bit to it though! I was born in ] and live in the Vale. Most of my family are English though and I'm not particularly fascinated by sheep and rugby :-) I will certainly give the article a read, but not so much on the American english, I'll leave that to Rosie!♦ ] 10:38, 2 March 2015 (UTC) |
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:Thanks for the clarification – and I also overlooked the fact that you ], something an American would be unlikely to do (mind you, you're not doing a very effective job at it just now). ] (]) 15:14, 2 March 2015 (UTC) |
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::The "King of Swing", pretty close ;-) My type of swing is nearer to ] though than cricket!♦ ] 15:18, 2 March 2015 (UTC) |
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== It's the Ritz-and the other Waldorf too :) == |
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November 1914 article starts on page 463 re: Ritz and Waldorf hotels in London. We now have a floor plan for the Ritz ] and a 1914 photo of the Winter Garden there ] These are also stored at HathiTrust--it looks to be very good for old architectural literature. ] (]) 01:54, 2 March 2015 (UTC) |
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You've excelled yourself We hope! I will be resuming with Chapter 4 today..♦ ] 09:09, 2 March 2015 (UTC) |
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::Sorry--was having internet connection issues earlier. Not sure if you saw comment or not, but last night as I was "Ritzing", I found a wealth of books on the Waldorf at HathiTrust. If you're interested, I think we have the sources to do it. :) ] (]) 20:47, 2 March 2015 (UTC) |
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:::More ''books'' on the Waldorf? Eeks, I'm scared, I think I'd just rather ignore them hehe, I was thinking it was pretty comprehensive! Trying to get on with the Ritz but am not concentrating well at the moment! I do think though that the 1893 article at some point might be one to pick for gunning for FA, more so that the main one which is more complex. If you were really up for it I'd probably oblige!♦ ] 21:17, 2 March 2015 (UTC) |
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::::Among them is the biography of Oscar which is now PD (looks like it's due to non-renewal, but will check further to confirm). This says they once had a trout stream in the original Grill Room where you could bait a hook and catch your own trout to be freshly fried there. There also looks to be more books to expand on people like Lucius Boomer, etc. ] (]) 21:22, 2 March 2015 (UTC) |
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:::::It's definitely an interesting (and very glamorous) subject and closely associated with film and high society. Oscar would be a cool one to get up to GA I guess. BTW would be useable. I just requested {{u|Rosiestep}} to start him he's the subject of a missing dab in the Ritz article.♦ ] 21:27, 2 March 2015 (UTC) |
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{{od}}Let me take a little time to check as the artist died in 1931. Know that 70 years have passed but want to make sure we're not treading into bad territory. ] (]) 21:31, 2 March 2015 (UTC) |
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:The Orpen work may be PD in the UK but it's likely not PD in the US and that's where the issues would come in. It can be copied and used here for a portrait as there's none, but it would need to be licensed as non-free. ] (]) 01:02, 4 March 2015 (UTC) |
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They had everything-from royalty to entertainment stars to dictators. I'll throw my hat into the ring, but at present need to make sure some RL obligations are taken care of so might not be able to go full steam on the Waldorf for a short bit. ] (]) 21:28, 2 March 2015 (UTC) |
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Up to you. I'm working on the Ritz at the moment but will return to the Waldorf if you're up for further projects!♦ ] 21:30, 2 March 2015 (UTC) |
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:This is my official sign-up for the project! :-) ] (]) 22:11, 2 March 2015 (UTC) |
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::Let me see what I can find to add to the Ritz from books and newspapers. :) ] (]) 18:35, 3 March 2015 (UTC) |
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Funny ]. He's supposed to be 35, yet ] is only 31 haha! Having Roivas in that suit and as Prime Minister rather reminds me of some of the teen administrators we have on here. "Look how important I am! Now buy me an ice cream!" :-) Just doesn't seem right somebody looking that young running a country!♦ ] 19:56, 3 March 2015 (UTC) |
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:I've seen older looking fellows doing bagging at supermarkets or asking if you want to "Super-Size it" at fast-food restaurants. ;) ] (]) 20:55, 3 March 2015 (UTC) |
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::OK-got a New York Times pic of Charlie Chaplin at the Ritz ]-where would you like it? ] (]) 21:41, 3 March 2015 (UTC) |
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:::Awesome, there's one of him in my book but it's throwing carnations out of the first floor window at fans!♦ ] 21:49, 3 March 2015 (UTC) |
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Mmm now who could Baron Pfyffer d'Altenhofen be, google search is literally dead for that one, he was supposedly the son of Cesar Ritz's benefactor in Lucerne. Detective {{u|Rosiestep}}?♦ ] 22:13, 3 March 2015 (UTC) |
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:Pipe smoking--found a news story from the 1970s that said The Ritz had relaxed its ban on pipe smoking. If we can get more about when the ban started, I'll add the ref. ] (]) 22:43, 3 March 2015 (UTC) |
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::How deeply do you want to get into the construction of the building? I've just found a 1906-1907 article with plans for the foundation and framing, etc. ] (]) 20:34, 4 March 2015 (UTC) |
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:::Depends if its technical gobbledygook or encyclopedic! Some details are probably OK!♦ ] 21:15, 4 March 2015 (UTC) |
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:::: at page 439. We may also be able to use the photos--I think under PD-old and PD-1923-this is from 1906 or 1907. You can see them "at work" on it. :) ] (]) 21:29, 4 March 2015 (UTC) |
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::::::If you think it'll improve the article go for it! Will be resuming tomorrow!♦ ] 21:31, 4 March 2015 (UTC) |
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] - here he is. If you asked me to research anyone else, just let me know as I've lost track. --] (]) 04:49, 5 March 2015 (UTC) |
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== Do me a favour ... == |
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... please don't mention my name in ] where I am unable to reply and fix a misunderstanding or two. You may remember that - while you can freely speak - ]. I am biting my tongue, it hurts. (I can't even reply or fix here, it's the same topic, Arbitration Enforcers are seriuz about that.) You may remember also that all participants have been requested "to avoid turning discussions about a single article's infobox into a discussion about infoboxes in general". I did not mention your name in ] (about real life eye surgery and visions). --] (]) 12:37, 2 March 2015 (UTC) |
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If you were <s>fully topic banned</s> not topic banned at all from commenting on infoboxes Gerda you'd not have that worry. ♦ ] 12:45, 2 March 2015 (UTC) |
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: I am biting my tongue further, it hurts more. Did you know that the photographer was also among the contibutors to the article in question? --] (]) 12:58, 2 March 2015 (UTC) |
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I've emailed you, seems as the silly two comment thing applies on talk pages too.♦ ] 13:19, 2 March 2015 (UTC) |
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: Thank you. Here's an ], --] (]) 14:17, 2 March 2015 (UTC) |
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::A ?♦ ] 14:22, 2 March 2015 (UTC) |
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Hi Doc, congrats on getting ] up to FA. I'm glad the "Legends" section made it through OK; sorry if it caused problems for the nom... that wasn't my intention. Best regards, ] (]) 12:38, 2 March 2015 (UTC) |
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Thankyou Simon, and thankyou for documenting all 14 ghosts :-)!!♦ ] 12:41, 2 March 2015 (UTC) |
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Thanks Rosie, is that a young QEII though LOL?♦ ] 14:30, 2 March 2015 (UTC) |
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*] - done! --] (]) 03:43, 3 March 2015 (UTC) |
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Tag has been there a long long time, somebody.. I think it should probably be merged into ]. Somebody can do that if they like, I guess I'm talking to myself..♦ ] 14:48, 3 March 2015 (UTC) |
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::] I care. But I don't want to overstep. And I don't know enough to edit this article. |
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*{{cite news |url=http://businesstoday.intoday.in/story/hyderabad-on-a-platter-at-zambar-restaurant/1/204058.html |title=Hyderabad on a platter at Zambar restaurant |first1=Saurav |last1=Bhanot |date=March 16, 2014 |newspaper=] |accessdate=March 2, 2015}} |
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*{{cite news |url=http://www.newindianexpress.com/lifestyle/food/There%E2%80%99s-More-to-Feast-than-Zambar-and-Rice/2014/01/25/article2017414.ece |title=There’s More to Feast than Zambar and Rice |
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|first1=Tanu |last1=Datta |date=25 January 2014 |newspaper=] |accessdate=March 2, 2015}} filmmaker-turned-chef Arun Kumar |
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*{{cite news |url=http://www.hindustantimes.com/brunch/brunch-stories/are-delhi-restaurants-successful-only-because-of-their-chefs/article1-1151602.aspx |newspaper=] |title=Are Delhi restaurants successful only because of their chefs? |first1=Vir |last1=Sanghvi |date=November 16, 2013 |accessdate=March 2, 2015}} |
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*{{cite news |url=http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/delhi-indian-restaurants-ncrs-indian-restaurants-hauz-khas-village-zambar-macaroon-vs-macron-belvedere-polish-vodka/1/349282.html |title=Proud to be Indian but refusing to be stodgy, says Sourish Bhattacharyya |newspaper=] |first1=Sourish |last1=Bhattacharyya |location=New Delhi |date=March 13, 2014 |accessdate=March 2, 2015}} <span style="text-shadow:#396 0.2em 0.2em 0.5em; class=texhtml">] (])</span> 14:53, 3 March 2015 (UTC) |
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:::FWIW, I removed the tag. <span style="text-shadow:#396 0.2em 0.2em 0.5em; class=texhtml">] (])</span> 14:58, 3 March 2015 (UTC) |
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:::::Thanks, Wondering why nobody else removed it, it was nearly 12 hours ago. In fairness I only just spotted it though!♦ ] 15:02, 3 March 2015 (UTC) |
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I sent you two e-mails, but seems you've got a lot on your plate. You have created so much that it 'causes a black hole in the universe' to which errant ] and ]s are sucked in. <span style="text-shadow:#396 0.2em 0.2em 0.5em; class=texhtml">] (])</span> 15:21, 3 March 2015 (UTC) |
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::::::::Makes sense now, cheers, I've emailed you the reason I had not dealt with this.♦ ] 16:41, 3 March 2015 (UTC) |
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==Deletion of comment on Collect's Talk page== |
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Any particular reason you my comment on Collects talk page? Cheers. ] (]) 17:32, 3 March 2015 (UTC) |
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Wasn't intended {{u|Jbhunley}}, must have got caught up somehow, sorry about that! I was just questioning the block on just the one editor, I know nothing about what issues are at stake!.♦ ] 17:35, 3 March 2015 (UTC) |
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:No problem. I thought so. Just wanted to make sure I had not committed some faux pas or some such. Cheers. ] (]) 17:39, 3 March 2015 (UTC) |
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:PS I saw your comment in the history but not on the page. ] (]) 17:41, 3 March 2015 (UTC) |
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== Unbearable == |
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Please see that was recently posted by an IP editor. It's becoming increasingly difficult for me to work here with the constant barrage of personal attacks and harassment towards me. Why, only because I refuse to fan the ego of a fan boy? First, my user page and talk page had to be indefinitely protected, but these messages are still being posted in other places. I am not sure if it's from the same person or a group of people. But I am really sick of it, and find the entire idea of contributing here to be an epic waste of time and energy! I am sorry about venting here, but I really needed an outlet! --] ] 09:00, 4 March 2015 (UTC) |
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Why not just report it to an admin at ANI?♦ ] 09:27, 4 March 2015 (UTC) |
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:Oh, the moment I mention his name, he starts his rant about how much of a bleeding hypocrite I am and oh, there is the constant barrage of crap like female hero, shero, Chopra bestestestest! And without solid proof that it's him, I don't want to end up being blocked in another one of those unending arguments. It also might be that god-awful {{u|Mriduls.sharma}} who has been harassing me for a while now. She might have just found a perfect ally to harass me with. --] ] 09:32, 4 March 2015 (UTC) |
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Taking a break for the sake of my health. I'll return here when somebody is kind enough to give me the coding in my preferences to suppress ] in an article and to replace a photo if in the infobox with a formatted photo in place set at 250px with the caption given in the infobox. I've requested it at the village pump and an editor who knows coding but they've not responded. I want to ensure that I'm not personally involved in a dispute over biographical infoboxes myself again because they create rifts between people and destroy friendships. Daft. A considerable part of the disruption on here is over infoboxes, and frankly I've had enough of it.♦ ] 13:10, 5 March 2015 (UTC) |
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:Dear Dr. B - whilst I personally might have chosen somewhere other than our beloved article on the "soul-inspiring one" to launch the latest phase of the great info box wars, there have been benefits. I very much like the suggestion of including the quote "Too much opium" in the IB and the page view statistics have gone through the roof! Have a good break and when you come back I'll try to have ] ready for FAC. Then we can work together to get it through, to the benefit of readers and for our own enjoyment. Look after yourself. All the very best. ] (]) 18:49, 5 March 2015 (UTC) |
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:I came to say what a great place the Hotel is and see this, very sorry. - I don't agree that there is large disruption over infoboxes, - I have a list of disputes, and the number is decreasing. I noticed about 60 cases in 2013, and only a few this year. "Hope" is the first word of a comment on my talk, - I kept it from last year because I need it often. - A typical quote would be an addition to think about, thank you for the idea, ]! What would ] and ] have said? --] (]) 11:36, 6 March 2015 (UTC) |
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::Dr. B - a stellar list of contributors, with some superb amendments, at the peer review for the Tower House. It's coming on well. ] (]) 07:34, 8 March 2015 (UTC) |
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:::So the UX folks at WMF are saying, try Adblock Plus to suppress Infobox person. It's a plugin. --] (]) 22:21, 8 March 2015 (UTC) |
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:::It should be optional in preferences I think. We need a much broader range of options in our preferences to customize wikipedia.♦ ] 12:40, 9 March 2015 (UTC) |
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I wish you much success on your break. I just thought I would pop off a note to you, as I noticed you had an interest in the Canada locator maps. |
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I started a conversation on the help desk regarding the map of Saskatchewan under the title Error in maps and therefore in the GPS coordinates. The map titled File:Canada_Saskatchewan_location_map.svg does not look my province of Saskatchewan. There should be curvilinear lines north and south. The eastern and western borders albeit are parallel lines, however they are in no way parallel to each other. I see the map NordNordWest used as a template File:Canada_Saskatchewan_relief_location_map.jpg, but it is not a good one at all. The boundaries for Saskatchewan have never changed, I think the cartograher who made File:Canada_Saskatchewan_relief_location_map.jpg took a short cut and made it rectangular with square corners in error. This one MapSK.JPG shows the not parallel east west boundaries and the curved north south borders the best, but it should be oriented more north and south and not off on a diagonal. This also shows the borders well. Saskatchewan Municipalities.png, or this one SK-Canada-province.png. I have contacted user_talk:NordNordWest, the creator of the SVG locater map who seems to have good map making skills BTW I know they have to be rather particular to work with the GPS robot. Kind Regards ] | ] 14:35, 6 March 2015 (UTC) |
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Yes, Nordnordwest on German wiki would be your best bet. I haven't contacted him in about 2 years now as I don't do much work on settlements any more. {{u|Aymatth2}} lives in Canada and is known to make the occasional map, he might have something to say.♦ ] 17:59, 7 March 2015 (UTC) |
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I saw a post on your page from Krimuk90, he was saying about an IP address. But, I don't understand why did he blamed me for that. He directly pointed his fingers at me. I was the one, who was constantly haraassed by the IP adresses, e-mails, tweets, blah blah blah. It's not an attack? Who knows he must be doing it himself to get some sympathy as his writing was same as that of my talk page post, calling me sir, saying PC is godess and others are nothing (a way of bullying, laughing at her). Infact, one edit on Chopra's page cannot be ignored (Successfuladdition), no one would do that. So, what should I do? No one should say anything by any proof. I suggest him to go to ANI, why taking my name?—] 18:04, 6 March 2015 (UTC) |
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== Core Contest == |
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Hey you remember from 2007 (with winners announced after 12 months...) |
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- my question - did you ever get the promised prizemoney and if so, who got it to you? ] (] '''·''' ]) 07:21, 7 March 2015 (UTC) |
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:I think it was User:Proteins who dealt with the prize money.♦ ] 17:58, 7 March 2015 (UTC) |
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::Thanks. ] (] '''·''' ]) 19:57, 7 March 2015 (UTC) |
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== ] == |
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I have opened the FAC for '']''. Feel free to leave comments. {{smiley}} — ] ] 14:21, 7 March 2015 (UTC) |
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== Detailed article on the Ritz, London construction == |
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It looks like HathiTrust is limiting total viewing of the article to those in the US only. Crisco tried to view it and was told he could only do a word search. I've uploaded a copy of the article here: |
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In the folder, you'll find everything needed to use the article for citations. Any photos you might want to use would need to stay at WP due to the fact that the journal is in the public domain in the US but not in some other countries. This seems so silly because we're talking about a long out of print magazine that was published in January 1907. Any monetary consideration for the publisher for this issue has long gone by the boards. ] (]) 15:21, 7 March 2015 (UTC) |
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Excellent WH. Will be back in a day or two hopefully when I have to coding to hide infobox person!♦ ] 17:54, 7 March 2015 (UTC) |
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== Paris, Good? == |
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Heylo, how do, sir? I'm going to have a bit of spare time on my hands in coming weeks... how is the ] article looking, is it up to snuff? Will it take any amount of work for it to get its 'GA' status back? Cheers, take care, <span style="font-family:Futura, Helvetica, _sans;font-size:85%;text-shadow:1px 1px 3px #a0a0a0;">] ] ]</span> 20:46, 7 March 2015 (UTC) |
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Sourcing looks sound anyway! I'll need to give it a full read later this week! Hope you're well!♦ ] 20:52, 7 March 2015 (UTC) |
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: Hayup, overworked, but fine, thanks. I've looked over some of the other 'big city' articles in my time off... some of them are more poorly sourced and presented than the Paris article, but they have FA status! I always try to keep things as factual and coherent as possible, but I've never really figured out how the 'wiki system' works. Seems to me that getting GA/FA means 'not having the attention of too many critics at the same time'... which is sad. Is there any means of getting a non-'I am a decider' opinion on article quality? <span style="font-family:Futura, Helvetica, _sans;font-size:85%;text-shadow:1px 1px 3px #a0a0a0;">] ] ]</span> 09:12, 11 March 2015 (UTC) |
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== Apology == |
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I understand that you expect an apology from me, but don't know for what. --] (]) 12:22, 9 March 2015 (UTC) |
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It makes it even worse Gerda that you think you're completely innocent in all this... Your rejoicing on Kegg's talk page of his support for the infobox in Burges in particular, how his comment "made your day", knowing that the issue divided the editors involved in writing Burges. As KJP said, it was most unfortunate that there was a difference of opinion and you made light of it by celebrating. I saw it quite honestly as the biggest showing of a finger I've seen in quite some time on here. Disruptive and annoying. If you can't see anything wrong with you gloating about Kegg's difference of opinion then you're not welcome to comment here again. I suggest you just let it rest. But I won't forget what you did.♦ ] 12:32, 9 March 2015 (UTC) |
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: (ec) I am innocent in believing that telling a user (any user) that his edit made me happy is not disruptive and annoying ''per see''. However, I see that you feel differently about this case. I had no idea (had not checked) that the user was a contributor to the article (so couldn't know that editors were divided). I simply saw someone who expressed what I felt in better words than I could have found, and told him so. - I apologize for having annoyed you and will try to avoid it, even if that means less praise on Misplaced Pages. --] (]) 12:46, 9 March 2015 (UTC) |
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:::Apology accepted. Somebody could call me the c word to my face on wikipedia, I'm unlikely to blink an eye. But if you really want to piss me off then it's that sort of thing in which something is said behind my back in which the person seems to be rejoicing at something which has gone against me. I see it exactly the same way as if I'd had a featured article deleted from[REDACTED] and you'd given the person who caused it to be deleted a barnstar for doing it, celebrating the misfortune. While your comment on it "making your day" wasn't an obvious direct attack on me it looked as if you were gloating and happy that he spoke out advocating infoboxes. Whether you liked what he said or not, I think you should have refrained from commenting on it (as I might have done initially too as KJP suggested), given that you knew he was a contributor to Burges and it had created a divide in the editors involved with writing his articles. If I went and left a comment on a talk page now with something like "Discussed the inclusion of the infobox in the Frédéric Chopin article three or four times, on at least two talk pages.", this made my day, such a wonderful comment!!", you'd be utterly appalled with me at celebrating your misfortune wouldn't you? I see it just like that.. And I'd have the tact not to say anything, not that I really would think that anyway...♦ ] 12:57, 9 March 2015 (UTC) |
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:::: May I softly repeat that I did NOT know that he contributed to the article, nor about the divide? - Please don't read my mind, - you can freely distribute the news that quite a while after a compromise had been found on Chopin, someone counted comments, reverted to before just counting votes without weighing arguments, and found I made too many, - so he thinks. Tell everybody (I can't), it would increase my fortune. --] (]) 13:19, 9 March 2015 (UTC) |
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:::::He has a major interest in Burges topics, and has written the most I think on The Tower House. I believe you, but it was just incredibly bad timing if you look at what KJP posted within an hour of what you said. If you'd done that ''after'' he'd posted then it would have been more obvious. I thought you knew of our working relationship, watched the Tower House article and knew of Kegg's great interest and collaboration with Burges. Anyway, enough has been said. I have no idea what you mean about "freely distribute the news". Anybody who cares about infobox disputes will know soon enough, and I have no intention of commenting myself on it, whatever I might think. As for Chopin, I've just stated that I don't think it is ideal, in fact I was just reverted. I think the stray signature looks almost as unsightly as the silly infobox. It should never have been an issue in the first place, can't you see how they create rifts between editors? You were previously on great terms with Smerus for example, and now? All over what, infoboxes?♦ ] 13:26, 9 March 2015 (UTC) |
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:::::::: I am on good terms with Smerus, a man ready to compromise, - if I say that, is it again disruptive and annoying? --] (]) 14:26, 9 March 2015 (UTC) |
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::::::::::::I see little evidence of a compromise on the Chopin talk page. What exactly has been compromised? It's either infobox or no infobox. Could you be more sarcastic LOL.♦ ] 14:36, 9 March 2015 (UTC) |
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::::::::::::: (ec) I can't {{diff|Frédéric Chopin|647896917|647210477|comment}} as you explained above. To walk away after two comments is actually a blessing, which more people might enjoy, voluntarily I mean ;) - ] in general came up on my talk a while ago. - To sarcasm: I tried that at times but was misunderstood even more than anyway. LOL. --] (]) 14:49, 9 March 2015 (UTC) |
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::::::::::::::::If you can't keep out of them Gerda soon enough you won't even be permitted the two comments. I just don't understand why this is such a major issue for you, and don't try to claim otherwise, anybody who would spend the time creating ]... It's almost ''creepy'' to me that somebody would spend all that time surveying them and even monitoring them with dates... ♦ ] 14:59, 9 March 2015 (UTC) |
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::::::::::::::::: I spent the time to make the list as evidence in the arb case of the same name, back in 2013 (archived). I should have done something better, I agree, the arbs didn't look at it anyway. ] is nominated for GA, DYK? --] (]) 15:14, 9 March 2015 (UTC) |
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:::::::::::::::::::Wow, is the arb case still on going then? That's a long case! That why you've been consistently editing and expanding it since June 2013? A recent update this month with even a neat little table summarising the exact number of articles involved? I can understand the desire to make articles consistent, but that is definitely going overboard IMO. It baffles me why you think this is so important to continue to monitor every single revert ever made to one, other than at some point trying to ensure that every one has one. The list looks a threat to future peace on[REDACTED] to me. Articles which you ''know'' are disputed and potential war zones between editors yet you're still at some point going to try to ensure that they have one. Is it really a good idea? Its up to you what you do I guess. At least in ones like ] they actually serve a (disputable) purpose and you have been doing some article work though in BMV 29 so haven't completely lost track!..♦ ] 15:23, 9 March 2015 (UTC) |
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Sorry, getting too small to the right. Yes, the case is still restricting me, more than Andy by now, - nice irony ;) - You will notice that I did not list every possible article of conflict (would be very long), nor every article of conflict I know (would still be too long), but only those where something happened. Where I am really busy now is the women's list, - kindly compare (and add for reviewing and commenting) to those on the short lists. - Did you notice my hook for the Dvořák, about battleground? ... that rehearsing ], a conductor said: "Gentlemen, in Bohemia the trumpets never call to battle{{spaced ndash}} they always call to the dance!"? --] (]) 16:49, 9 March 2015 (UTC) |
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Thanks for the cantata review! Found returning from rehearsal of the second movement which we will sing for Easter, about thanks ;) --] (]) 22:31, 9 March 2015 (UTC) |
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:::LOL, yes too small. Well I've been as honest as I can be on the matter and don't like speaking negatively to you. I appreciate your apology on that. I just think the time of editors would be better put into expanding articles instead of worrying about infoboxes. Now that'll be my last mention of infobox for quite some time!...♦ ] 16:59, 9 March 2015 (UTC) |
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::::::"Blowers, you're a complete ]." Hope those ] are still intact. ] (]) 13:56, 9 March 2015 (UTC) |
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::::::::You silly moo! "A thief in 1839 claimed that the cant he had seen in print was nothing like the cant then used by gypsies, thieves and beggars." That cant must have been quite a spectacle!♦ ] 13:59, 9 March 2015 (UTC) |
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:::::::::<small> And less of the blatant ], if you please! ] (]) 14:06, 9 March 2015 (UTC) </small> |
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:::::::::: Have a free tree, please, and no worries ;) --] (]) 22:08, 12 March 2015 (UTC) |
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==DYK for St. Paul's Cathedral, Abidjan== |
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|text = On ], ''']''' was updated with a fact from the article ''''']''''', which you recently created or substantially expanded. The fact was ''... that as of 2002, ''']''' was the second largest cathedral in Africa, built at an estimated cost of US $12 million?'' {{#if: |The nomination discussion and review may be seen at ].|{{#ifexist:Template:Did you know nominations/St. Paul's Cathedral, Abidjan|The nomination discussion and review may be seen at ].|{{#ifexist:Template talk:Did you know/St. Paul's Cathedral, Abidjan|The nomination discussion and review may be seen at ].}} }} }} You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page <small>(], , )</small>, and it may be added to ] if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the ]. |
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== Basically stupid image request == |
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You know a hell of a lot more about images, commons and the like than I do. I was wondering whether and/or any images of the distinctive ] 3-D glasses shown in it might be available for addition to commons. I'm thinking we might have an editor who might also, broadly, be considered a bit of a "crusading journalist" type and such images might be among the only available ones to convey the idea. ] (]) 16:38, 9 March 2015 (UTC) |
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You could always ask on flickr for a person to change the license to CC-2.0?♦ ] 17:02, 9 March 2015 (UTC) |
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== ] == |
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Just to let you know that I have closed the peer review. Your comments will of course be most welcome at the FAC which will open shortly. To answer the question you raised on the PR page, all the ship specifications shown in the infobox are also in the text, and are referenced there - see "Amazon" and "New owners" sections. ] (]) 23:33, 9 March 2015 (UTC) |
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I'm baffled as to why you closed the peer review when I said I'd look at it tomorrow, but in fairness it had already had a vigorous review and there's probably little left to comment on. I will look at it anyway.♦ ] 10:37, 10 March 2015 (UTC) |
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== Re; Irataba == |
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There might be something at HathiTrust or at the Library of Congress--will have to see. Right now, am working on "Bet a Million" Gates, a former long-term tenant of the Waldorf-Astoria. I found a 1948 PD biography as HathiTrust. ;) ] (]) 23:30, 10 March 2015 (UTC) |
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:Some old news stories popped up that might be useful- |
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* Febuary 7, 1864 |
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* May 3, 1864 |
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* October 22, 1865 |
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* September 28, 1872 |
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* September 9, 1896 |
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* July 2, 1874. The paper places his date of death as May 4, 1874. |
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* November 11, 1865 |
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* The Ireteba Peaks Wilderness (see ]) is named for him. The brochure was produced by the US Bureau of Land Management. Everything in it--text and photos--are in the public domain because it was created by a US government employee in the course of his/her work . Tag for it would be {{tl|PD-USGov-BLM}}. ] (]) 00:53, 11 March 2015 (UTC) |
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* complete list of transcribed chapters |
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* Volume VIII, 1918, Filmer Brothers, San Francisco |
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* Gazlay's Pacific Monthly 1865 New York, D. M. Gazlay. |
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More links ] (]) 02:59, 11 March 2015 (UTC) |
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:Nothing yet re: Ives. The photo you found was taken from some type of display as you can see the glare on part of it-it would have to be non-free since we don't know where it came from. I did get this if you can use it: |
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* Irataba is at left. This is plate IV on page 54. The artist is ] |
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Thanks WH!♦ ] 14:29, 11 March 2015 (UTC) |
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::Right now, a decent and freely-read copy of the book above is needed. The HathiTrust copy is missing many pages. Not because they were lost from the book but it looks like a terrible scan. Let me first of all see if I can find one at Internet Archive and then if not, I'll need to get the pages needed, if possible. There are first-hand accounts re: Ives with irataba in it. ] (]) 14:34, 11 March 2015 (UTC) |
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clears up something earlier I found, thanks for that!♦ ] 14:35, 11 March 2015 (UTC) |
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: of the book above from Internet Archive. The only difference you'll see is that the illustrations of indians in this scan are not in color. The reading material looks complete in this one and there are no gatekeepers for this very old PD book, which, on top of it, was published by the USG. ;) ] (]) 14:40, 11 March 2015 (UTC) |
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I really appreciate the effort here guys. Thanks a million! ] (]) 18:10, 11 March 2015 (UTC) |
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Irataba gave testimony in the proceedings following the ], but I'm not sure if it should be included. What do you think? ] (]) 20:30, 11 March 2015 (UTC) |
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Yes, something mentioned might be a good idea.♦ ] 20:46, 11 March 2015 (UTC) |
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==]== |
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Dear Dr., No urgency but I've added a ghastly bare URL as note 65. When you next drop by, could you do me a great favour by fixing it. Whatever happened to that marvellous Reflinks tool? All the best. ] (]) 18:33, 11 March 2015 (UTC) |
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: {{tps}} I think , but I might have forgotten a parameter or two. ] (]) 18:42, 11 March 2015 (UTC) |
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::Thanks for that, for some reason I didn't see your earlier message KJP! Dear Dr., No, would that be Dr. ] :-)?♦ ] 19:36, 11 March 2015 (UTC) |
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== A barnstar for you! == |
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|style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" | You've probably gotten so many of these over the years, but here's another one for being such a great help at the ] and at ]. I really appreciate your effort. Thanks! ] (]) 20:10, 11 March 2015 (UTC) |
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Gracias! A great character and an important one in US history. Well let's hope it's all been worth it, I do hope people will try to purely look at the article and see some potential in it and be willing to comment and help polish it. What matters here ultimately is promoting articles to FA... I'm happy with it's level of comprehension anyway. There's not a tremendous amount of biographical detail about him. The ] article itself though is pretty dismal!♦ ] 20:32, 11 March 2015 (UTC) |
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: I agree that the Mohave people article is sorely lacking. I have a few books lying around that I could put to good use there, such as Sherer and Scrivner, but the task is a bit intimidating. Maybe after I tidy up my current projects and gain some confidence I'll find the time to take on that worthy subject. ] (]) 16:52, 12 March 2015 (UTC) |
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::Yes, broader topics are more difficult to really do justice to and research. A general great article on the Mohave would need all the components on history, economic practices, demographics, culture, architecture etc. Not easy to really do justice to but if you're really into the subject definitely worthwhile. ♦ ] 16:56, 12 March 2015 (UTC) |
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== Re - Silent Films == |
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By some virtue, I've been addressing errors in the historical record and submitting corrections to different venues for all matter of silent film works. I am liking how later productions by most companies have plenty of images and background works to go by. As long as exist, I'll have to be on my toes. I'm sure you know the whole "Verifiability, not truth" and "no original research", but some "original research" quickly clears up such errors and shows how prevalent they are in almost all topics. So much of that film still is totally wrong. It is Robert McWade in the 1912 Vitagraph production! I've actually submitted several other film still identifications, but I don't want to be a pain. Most people know Misplaced Pages is not infallible, but most people don't understand that so many books and other sources are also very flawed. Only 1000 Thanhouser films left to go. ] (]) 05:21, 12 March 2015 (UTC) |
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Oh yes, you have to be very careful, even otherwise reliable sources get it wrong!♦ ] 10:21, 12 March 2015 (UTC) |
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