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==== NEW NOMINATIONS ====
==== {{{2|Category:United States class aircraft carriers}}} ====
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{{lc|United States class aircraft carriers}}
*This is a single ship class. Single ship classes are handled at ] ] 23:25, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
*'''Request'''. What does ] say? --] | ] 08:49, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
* '''Wait''' for input from ] per Dhartung above. ] 03:14, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
* '''Comment''' from Wikiproject ships: ] single instance ship categories are deleted in favor of the ''unique ship category''. ] 05:40, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
*'''Keep''' (I am from WP:SHIPS); this is not a unique ship, but rather a member of a five-ship class, all of which were cancelled. Putting it under "unique aircraft carriers" is inappropriate. See ] for another example of a five-ship class where all ships were cancelled. Eventually a class article should and will be written, but at the moment we only have on article. ] 13:42, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
*'''Keep''' as per TomTheHand above. --] (]) 15:20, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
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==== Canary Islands categories ====
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*'''Rename''', prefix Canary Islands with "the". ] 18:55, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
* '''(Speedy) rename all''' per nom. (However, does anyone else find "Political parties ''in'' " rather than "Political parties ''of'' " a little odd...?) &nbsp;] 23:07, 4 August 2006 (UTC), +query 03:18, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
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==== {{{2|Category:Allegedly anti-Semitic people}}} ====
{{lc|Allegedly anti-Semitic people}}

*'''Delete''', POV magnet, like ], but with extra "allegedly" POV. What counts as a credible allegation? &mdash;] 17:49, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
** '''Comment''' - this is a way to separate the usage of ] from being used to apply to people who have been so alleged. Important distinction. -]|] 10:17, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
*'''Strong Delete''' as per Ashley Y. --] 21:31, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' altough at times such allegations may be discussed in the article, I fail to see why this should form the base for a category. As the nom implies in his question, it is just too fuzzy. ] 22:07, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
*'''Delete''', as per ] -- weasel words tend to attract POV. --] <small><sup>] </sup></small> 22:14, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
*'''Strong Delete''' ridiculous! I would like to the A-S people cat deleted as well. - <b>]</b><small> ]/]</small> 22:18, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
*'''Strong Delete''' as per the attempt to rename ] previously: if weasel words in articles are bad, they are much worse when applied to category names. ] ] 22:22, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
*'''Strong Delete''' For the love of God delete! It's Ludicrous! as is Anti-Semitic people, Anti-Arab people etc! who made us judge and jury??!? or instead delete that POV rule! --] 22:26, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
*'''Delete''', in general agreement with the reasons given above. - ] | ] 22:27, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
*'''Delete'''. Quite rediculous for an encyclopedia. ] 22:47, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
*'''Delete'''. The category cannot be, by definition, neutral; it is exposing one of the POVs only. Unlike ], I don't think this deserves a place. This is one of the things that semantici Misplaced Pages might do for us in the future, but it ain't as if we can't live without it. ]&nbsp;] 08:25, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' --] ] 09:19, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
*'''Strong Keep''', So many people fall under this category. Oftentimes there is controversy, speculation, and/or conspiracy behind their anti-Semitic actions, words, affiliations, etc. Louis Farrakhan, for example. As well as many, many others. ] 03:43, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
*'''Delete'''per Taragui.--] 15:21, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' with prejudice. Utterly ludicrous. ] 16:15, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
*'''Strong Delete''' The closest I'd recommend venturing to this category would be one set aside for "''Self-Proclaimed Anti-Semitic People''". Otherwise this cat becomes a weapon.--] 17:19, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
*'''Strong Delete''' Inherently subjective category ] 00:48, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

*] '''Delete''', POV pushing <span style="font-family:Tahoma; font-size:x-small;"><span style="color:#C11B17;">Matthew</span> <b style="color:#3366ff;">] (</b>]<b style="color:#3366ff;">)</b></span> 23:44, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
*'''Weak Keep''' This could be a useful category for future reference. Allegedly, these people are against Israel and it's presence in the world. If they have done things considered hateful that was news worthy, let this be the category to classify such individuals (as alleged of course). Could prove useful in future articles on middle-east conflicts. ] <small>]/]</small> 05:13, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
*'''Strong Delete'''. I know you had good intentions with this, Stivertigo, but it just doesn't work. "Allegedly anti-Semitic"? Sorry, but it doesn't sound very encyclopedic. I suggest if people have been accused to just detail it in their bios, but we don't need a separate cat. ] (]) 19:33, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' -- ] 05:54, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
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==== {{{3|Category:Users involved with WikiProject Tropical cyclones}}} ====
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*'''Rename'''. ] 17:46, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
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====] to ]====
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The result of the debate was {{{1|}}} '''rename/merge as nominated''' --] 19:49, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Expanding as usual. --] 17:01, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
*'''Rename''' <s>to ]</s> per nom. - ] 22:26, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
* '''Rename''' per nom. ] 23:08, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
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====Wikipedians by Misplaced Pages status nominations====
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*'''Rename all''' - Note that some of these categories may serve administrative purposes that I don't know about. If so, please point those out. --] 15:23, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
*'''Rename only those that don't start Misplaced Pages or Wikipedian''' The others are probably fine at the moment, but we should try to separate category pseudonamespaces. --] 15:28, 4 August 2006 (]]])
**'''Comment''' - I'm not sure why you don't think that the ones that start with "Misplaced Pages" or "Wikipedian" should be renamed. If anything, the new names will place them in the correct pseudonamespace. --] 16:49, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
*'''Rename all''' except '''delete "User edits"'''. They all seem to be administratively useful names. The user edits one seems to be the sole survivor of the CfD that killed all users-by-number-of-edits categories.--] 20:31, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
*] and ] are both incorrect names for this category. Featured Articles do not have authors. I nominated an article for featured status. I was not its author. I wrote a few sections, and edited it to bring it to featured status. Even if I had been the only contributor, once an article reaches featured status it still changes. This is a wiki. We don't take credit for authoring articles. I would'nt mind this being renamed to ] or something similar. Otherwise it should be '''deleted'''. -- ] 06:20, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
**I think this is a discussion that belongs elsewhere, maybe on ]. Samuel has a good point, and I think I agree with him, but people who are concerned with category management shouldn't be making this decision for people concerned with featured articles.--] 14:38, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' ]. This cat is for more than past tense usage, changing to Wikipedian is fine, but adding the "who required" makes it a past tense action. This category is also used for current and future user intervention. Either way is fine, just commenting, as I won't be around to argue the point :) ]]]] 07:04, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
**How about ]?--] 14:39, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
***I thought about that too, but that name seems to imply the need for action (that is, the people in this category need intervention, but that has not been done yet). I'm not sure if either name conveys the true meaning correctly, so other suggestions are welcome. --] 13:56, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
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====Anonymous Wikipedian categories==== ====Anonymous Wikipedian categories====
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*'''Rename''' - These two categories appear to be identical. The new name better reflects what the categories are. --] 14:22, 4 August 2006 (UTC) *'''Rename''' - These two categories appear to be identical. The new name better reflects what the categories are. --] 14:22, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
*I'd prefer to '''rename to ]''', since if you think about it, the IP editors are the ''least'' anonymous of us -- they're the only ones for whom we have hard evidence about their ] location. --]]]]] 17:42, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
**'''Comment''' - Personally, I prefer "Anonymous Wikipedians" because that's what they tend to be called in practice, but I don't have a problem with "Static IP Wikipedians". --] 17:45, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
***I do. Anonymous describes how they post, not whether we can find them afterward. '''Rename''' as nominated.--] 20:34, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
::::I'm not sure "Static" would be really true for all of them, what about "Established IP users" or something like that? ] 17:03, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
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==== ] ==== ==== ] ====
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The result of the debate was {{{1|}}} '''reverse merge ] into ]''' --] 17:36, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

This previously had military intelligence mixed in. I moved those things out, and now it seems to be redundant with ], into which I think it should be merged to avoid future ambiguity. -- ] 21:37, 26 July 2006 (UTC) This previously had military intelligence mixed in. I moved those things out, and now it seems to be redundant with ], into which I think it should be merged to avoid future ambiguity. -- ] 21:37, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
* '''Oppose'''. Category:Intelligence is easy to find, while :Cognitive Intelligence is not, and it also seems redundant. Suggest the reverse of this merge proposal, with a disambig note left in the :Intelligence category pointing to :Military Intelligence. ] 00:30, 27 July 2006 (UTC) * '''Oppose'''. Category:Intelligence is easy to find, while :Cognitive Intelligence is not, and it also seems redundant. Suggest the reverse of this merge proposal, with a disambig note left in the :Intelligence category pointing to :Military Intelligence. ] 00:30, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
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* '''Reverse merge''' After discussion, Intelligence (trait) was considered the primary usage and moved to ] with a disambig at the top. Artificial intelligence is properly, as it is now, a subcat within intelligence. Intelligence is properly, as it is now, a subcat within cognitition. --] 01:20, 31 July 2006 (UTC) * '''Reverse merge''' After discussion, Intelligence (trait) was considered the primary usage and moved to ] with a disambig at the top. Artificial intelligence is properly, as it is now, a subcat within intelligence. Intelligence is properly, as it is now, a subcat within cognitition. --] 01:20, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
*'''Note''': ] was not tagged for the reverse merge, so I'm relisting this for another 7 days. Original discussion . --] 14:02, 4 August 2006 (UTC) *'''Note''': ] was not tagged for the reverse merge, so I'm relisting this for another 7 days. Original discussion . --] 14:02, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
*'''Reverse merge''', with disambiguation links to ], ] and ]. -] 21:39, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
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==== {{{2|Category:Traditionalist Catholics}}} ==== ==== {{{2|Category:Traditionalist Catholics}}} ====
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{{lc|Traditionalist Catholics}} {{lc|Traditionalist Catholics}}
*A category with two people, one group and one general article; there are also three subcats. I think the subcats should be moved ot a more generic category. Notable traditionalist (i.e. Vatican II-dissenting) Catholics are few and far between; also, recent debate surrounding the article on ] indicates some disagreement as to what a traditionalist Catholic ''is''. ] 11:41, 4 August 2006 (UTC) *A category with two people, one group and one general article; there are also three subcats. I think the subcats should be moved ot a more generic category. Notable traditionalist (i.e. Vatican II-dissenting) Catholics are few and far between; also, recent debate surrounding the article on ] indicates some disagreement as to what a traditionalist Catholic ''is''. ] 11:41, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
*'''Keep'''; this is the top-level category, the sub-sub-cats (] and ]) are rather populous. Since "traditionalist" is very disputed, though, I would support a '''rename''' of this and the Bishop sub-cat and sub-sub-cats to ], ], ], and ]. --]]]]] 17:39, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' Per nom. ] 22:34, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
*'''Keep''', at least for now. I see no harm from this classification even if there is a dispute about about what to call it. Maybe when the larger 'who is a Catholic issue' is resolved we can revisit this. ] 22:53, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
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==== {{{3|Category:Luxembourg artists}}} ==== ==== {{{3|Category:Luxembourg artists}}} ====
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The result of the debate was {{{1|}}} '''rename/merge to Foo from Luxembourg''' --] 17:29, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

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*'''Rename''', All of the above take the adjectival form for other countries. The adjective for Luxembourg is 'Luxembourgian'; see , , and others. With the launch of ] (which is currently a two-bit operation), this ought to be standardised. ] 10:35, 4 August 2006 (UTC) *'''Rename''', All of the above take the adjectival form for other countries. The adjective for Luxembourg is 'Luxembourgian'; see , , and others. With the launch of ] (which is currently a two-bit operation), this ought to be standardised. ] 10:35, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
**'''Comment''' There are actually several competing adjectives for Luxembourg, so this is not the straightforward matter you present it as, but I don't want to get any further involved. ] 13:08, 4 August 2006 (UTC) **'''Comment''' There are actually several competing adjectives for Luxembourg, so this is not the straightforward matter you present it as, but I don't want to get any further involved. ] 13:08, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
*<s>'''Oppose all'''</s> as Luxembourgian is ghastly: Luxembourgeois or Luxemburger or Letzeburgish for me. Given the variety, sticking with Luxembourg seems less trouble. ] ] 22:25, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
**'''Rename occupations to "''X'' from Luxembourg"''' as below. ] ] 07:35, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
*'''Oppose all''' We just finished getting rid of the likes of Liverpulians in favor of ]. See, for example, ]. Let us not go down that ''-ian'' path again. If we need to rename then ], etc. ] 23:29, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
* <del>'''Rename occupations to "''X'' from Luxembourg"''' per above.</del> According to ], "Luxembourg" is the country's adjectival form, so retain the current art and football club categories' names...?<br>Abstaining per Bastin below. ] 00:49, 5 August 2006 (UTC), updated 03:29, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
::'''Comment'''. I'm all in favour of adopting the standard of 'People from Foo', but that isn't the standard currently adopted, and I don't think that anyone is seriously proposing that it be adopted in the near future. Currently, the categories for people by nationality use the adjectival form, and to create an exception for Luxembourg seems a tad off; cities are one thing, but countries are something else.
::Furthermore, that list is simply wrong; 'Luxembourgian' is the standard in both British and American English. The only dictionary that I have found that gives 'Luxembourg' as an adjective also gives 'Luxembourgian': . Furthermore, having read extensively on Luxembourg, I can't say that I've found one book or source that consistently uses 'Luxembourg' (some consistently use 'Luxembourgian', some 'Luxembourgish', but never 'Luxembourg'). The CIA has a lot to answer for. ] 12:14, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

:::People from Finland make a sharp distinction between "Finnish" (pertaining to the Finnish language) and "from Finland" (the country). The 6% Swedish-speaking minority in Finland refuse to call themselves Finnish. Extrapolating from this, "from COUNTRY" is the less problematic pattern. --] 12:51, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

::::Generally, it would be. However, 'Luxembourgian' is not a language; the analogy explains only why 'Luxembourgish' should not be used as the national adjective. ] 12:58, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
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==== {{{2|Category:Central}}} ==== ==== {{{2|Category:Central}}} ====
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{{lc|Central}} {{lc|Central}}
*'''Delete''', it's too ambiguous to be a redirect (look at ]). ] &#9836; ] 10:08, 4 August 2006 (UTC) *'''Delete''', it's too ambiguous to be a redirect (look at ]). ] ♬ ] 10:08, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' per nom. ] 13:11, 4 August 2006 (UTC) *'''Delete''' per nom. ] 13:11, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
* '''Delete''' per nom. ] 14:19, 4 August 2006 (UTC) * '''Delete''' per nom. ] 14:19, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
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==== {{{3|Category:Glasgow Subway tube stations}}} ==== ==== {{{3|Category:Glasgow Subway tube stations}}} ====
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The result of the debate was {{{1|}}} '''rename/merge as nominated''' --] 17:21, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

] to ] ] to ]
*'''Rename''', "Subway tube station" would be like saying "subway subway" station. You wouldn't say "London Underground tube station". Besides, the term "tube" isn't used in Glasgow. ] 09:51, 4 August 2006 (UTC) *'''Rename''', "Subway tube station" would be like saying "subway subway" station. You wouldn't say "London Underground tube station". Besides, the term "tube" isn't used in Glasgow. ] 09:51, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
*'''Rename''' per nom. ] 13:08, 4 August 2006 (UTC) *'''Rename''' per nom. ] 13:08, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
*'''Rename''' per nom. ] ] 09:57, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
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===={{{2|Category:ABC 5}}}==== ===={{{2|Category:ABC 5}}}====
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*The ] is still formally known by its complete name (unlike ]). I mistakenly created ] when I was submitting this request. --<b><font color="orange">] ] ]</font></b> 07:57, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
The result of the debate was {{{1|}}} '''rename/merge as nominated''' --] 17:20, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
:<small>A notice of this discussion has been added to the ]. --<b><font color="orange">] ] ]</font></b> 07:57, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

{{lc|ABC 5}} to {{lc|Associated Broadcasting Company}}
*'''Merge''' ] to ]. The ] is still formally known by its complete name (unlike ]). I mistakenly created ] when I was submitting this request. --<b>] ] ]</b> 07:57, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
:<small>A notice of this discussion has been added to the ]. --<b>] ] ]</b> 07:57, 4 August 2006 (UTC)</small>
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==== {{{2|Category:Bird Pokémon}}} ==== ==== {{{2|Category:Bird Pokémon}}} ====
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{{lc|Bird Pokémon}} {{lc|Bird Pokémon}}
*'''Delete'''. Can't ever have any but two entries, neither of which is definitively a Pokémon. - ] <small>(] | ])</small> 07:37, 4 August 2006 (UTC) *'''Delete'''. Can't ever have any but two entries, neither of which is definitively a Pokémon. - ] <small>(] | ])</small> 07:37, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
*:Update: This cat has been emptied by a merge. - ] <small>(] | ])</small> 09:04, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
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==== {{{2|Category:Amalgam Comics supervillain teams}}} ==== ==== {{{2|Category:Amalgam Comics supervillain teams}}} ====
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*'''Delete''', Amalgam was a short lived comic imprint. There doesn't need to be a category for it's teams. ] 04:22, 4 August 2006 (UTC) *'''Delete''', Amalgam was a short lived comic imprint. There doesn't need to be a category for it's teams. ] 04:22, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
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*'''Keep'''. This parallels ] nicely. Given its special place between DC and Marvel, both of which have a similar subcategory, this seems harmless.--] 05:13, 4 August 2006 (UTC) *'''Keep'''. This parallels ] nicely. Given its special place between DC and Marvel, both of which have a similar subcategory, this seems harmless.--] 05:13, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
*'''Keep''' per Above. Also, For such a short lived imprint, it had a surprisingly large stable of teams, because of the way each one shot was written as though it were in the middle of an already established series. -] 05:24, 4 August 2006 (UTC) *'''Keep''' per Above. Also, For such a short lived imprint, it had a surprisingly large stable of teams, because of the way each one shot was written as though it were in the middle of an already established series. -] 05:24, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
*'''Delete'''. A cat with two entries that won't ever have any but two entries. - ] <small>(] | ])</small> 07:38, 4 August 2006 (UTC) *'''Delete'''. A cat with two entries that won't ever have any but two entries. - ] <small>(] | ])</small> 07:38, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
*'''Keep'''. The Amalgam Comics entries are being expanded constantly and I'm sure that in the future this category will house more than two entries. -] 03:26, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
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==== {{{2|Category:Pages containing IPA}}} ==== ==== {{{2|Category:Pages containing IPA}}} ====
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{{lc|Pages containing IPA}} {{lc|Pages containing IPA}}
*This category is metadata and should not be present in the article space without a compelling reason, and I can come up with none. There was a previous CFD in 2004 which kept the category, however I think a second look is worthwhile. I certainly wouldn't be opposed to the same category being populated with talk pages, but even that seems like a waste of time. As it stands it should be '''deleted'''. ] ] 04:19, 4 August 2006 (UTC) *This category is metadata and should not be present in the article space without a compelling reason, and I can come up with none. There was a previous CFD in 2004 which kept the category, however I think a second look is worthwhile. I certainly wouldn't be opposed to the same category being populated with talk pages, but even that seems like a waste of time. As it stands it should be '''deleted'''. ] ] 04:19, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
*<s>'''Keep'''</s> This is similar to ]. It may come in useful some day if for some reason some change needs to be made automatically to all IPA-using pages (for instance, if the official IPA standard changes and all the pages need to be updated accordingly, although this is quite unlikely), and it isn't doing any harm. --] 15:14, 4 August 2006 (]]])
**It has a substantial difference from the template you mention, in that it appears as part of the encyclopedic content. It disrupts the encyclopedic purpose of the category section, which is to " all the categories to which the topic of the page belongs." (from ]) To achieve a professional, reliable appearance we should strive where possible to present a complete, clean encyclopedia article; this goal is disrupted to whatever extent our maintenance processes intrude onto the article. ] ] 17:10, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
**Additionally, it appears that there is {{tl|IPA}}; without knowing much about it, I would think that the "what links here" of that template could be used in the contingency you describe. ] ] 20:15, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
***Based on that, '''conditional delete''', conditional on an alternative being provided (like the IPA template). --] 12:43, 8 August 2006 (]]])
*'''Delete''', self-referential and potentially limitless - ideally ''all'' articles will contain IPA. ] 19:40, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
**Please no! It is useless to most people, and achieves nothing other than to make us feel ignorant. ] 01:50, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' self-referential and untidy. ] 01:49, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
*'''Keep or provide alternative''', I've been going through this category last month or so from A toward Z seeing if I can edit any of the pages that contain IPA (I'm on '''W''' right now) and in the process found several pages worth my improvement and monitoring. If there's another way of going through such pages in a similar way, then the category is redundant. <small>—The preceding ] comment was added by ] (] • ]) {{{2|}}}.</small>
**There are many alternatives, including the template's "what links here," or using a bot to move the category to the talk page (where many other meta-categories reside). ] ] 18:06, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' per nom. Aeusoes, I think that the list at ] mentioned above should provide what you need. - ] 14:48, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' this useless category before it grows. ] 14:17, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
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==== {{{2|Category:Surname pairs}}} ==== ==== {{{2|Category:Surname pairs}}} ====
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{{lc|Surname pairs}} {{lc|Surname pairs}}
*'''Delete''', arbitrary and totally useless. - <b>]</b><small> ]/]</small> 02:48, 4 August 2006 (UTC) *'''Delete''', arbitrary and totally useless. - <b>]</b><small> ]/]</small> 02:48, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
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*'''Delete''' per CrazyRussian. ]] 04:53, 4 August 2006 (UTC) *'''Delete''' per CrazyRussian. ]] 04:53, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
*'''Abstain''' - I created this category mostly for fun. I don't think it's entirely useless, but I have no strong argument for keeping it either. To "listify" would be ok with me. I thought lists were something that belonged to Misplaced Pages's early days, and that they had been replaced with categories and WikiProjects. Are there any policies for how to create and name lists? Should I just go on to create ]? --] 09:27, 4 August 2006 (UTC) *'''Abstain''' - I created this category mostly for fun. I don't think it's entirely useless, but I have no strong argument for keeping it either. To "listify" would be ok with me. I thought lists were something that belonged to Misplaced Pages's early days, and that they had been replaced with categories and WikiProjects. Are there any policies for how to create and name lists? Should I just go on to create ]? --] 09:27, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
*'''Listify''' Lists haven't been abandoned; for instance, see ]! I'm not entirely sure the list would survive AfD (] indiscriminate), but it would probably survive if something encyclopaedic was written along with it about surname pairs. --] 15:18, 4 August 2006 (]]])
*'''Delete''' and '''Don'tlistify''', another fine pair :-) ] 19:42, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' per CrazyRussian. See ], LA2, but in this case I think that ] applies. What use does this serve, apart from amusement? --] | ] 09:00, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
*'''FYI''', the category is now emptied and can be removed. No list was created to replace it. It's gone. --] 09:57, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
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==== {{{2|Category:Bear vs. Shark}}} ==== ==== {{{2|Category:Bear vs. Shark}}} ====
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{{lc|Bear vs. Shark}} {{lc|Bear vs. Shark}}
*'''Delete''', Unused; duplicate of category ] which does have content.&nbsp;&mdash; ] | ] 00:49, 4 August 2006 (UTC) *'''Delete''', Unused; duplicate of category ] which does have content.&nbsp;&mdash; ] | ] 00:49, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
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==== {{{3|Category:British Colonial Flags}}} ==== ==== {{{3|Category:British Colonial Flags}}} ====
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'''] to ]'''<br> '''] to ]'''<br>
Relisted from ]. Most flags in the category link to the Commons, so suggest straightforward rename as above. (Prefixing "Images of" seems unnecessary.) &nbsp;] 00:30, 4 August 2006 (UTC) Relisted from ]. Most flags in the category link to the Commons, so suggest straightforward rename as above. (Prefixing "Images of" seems unnecessary.) &nbsp;] 00:30, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
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The result of the debate was keep --Kbdank71 19:55, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

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The result of the debate was rename/merge as nominated --Kbdank71 19:53, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

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The result of the debate was delete, by overwhelming consensus. El_C 09:03, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

Category:Allegedly anti-Semitic people

Category:Allegedly anti-Semitic people (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

  • Delete, POV pushing Matthew Fenton (contribs) 23:44, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Weak Keep This could be a useful category for future reference. Allegedly, these people are against Israel and it's presence in the world. If they have done things considered hateful that was news worthy, let this be the category to classify such individuals (as alleged of course). Could prove useful in future articles on middle-east conflicts. JungleCat talk/contrib 05:13, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Strong Delete. I know you had good intentions with this, Stivertigo, but it just doesn't work. "Allegedly anti-Semitic"? Sorry, but it doesn't sound very encyclopedic. I suggest if people have been accused to just detail it in their bios, but we don't need a separate cat. Aaрон Кинни (t) 19:33, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete -- Avi 05:54, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
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The result of the debate was rename/merge as nominated --Kbdank71 19:50, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Category:Users involved with WikiProject Tropical cyclones to Category:WikiProject Tropical cyclones participants

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Category:Governors of RBI to Category:Governors of the Reserve Bank of India

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The result of the debate was rename/merge as nominated --Kbdank71 19:49, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Expanding as usual. --Mereda 17:01, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

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The result of the debate was rename/merge as nominated --Kbdank71 17:49, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

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The result of the debate was rename/merge as nominated --Kbdank71 17:39, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

I'm not sure "Static" would be really true for all of them, what about "Established IP users" or something like that? 68.39.174.238 17:03, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
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The result of the debate was reverse merge Category:Cognitive intelligence into Category:Intelligence --Kbdank71 17:36, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

This previously had military intelligence mixed in. I moved those things out, and now it seems to be redundant with Category:Cognitive intelligence, into which I think it should be merged to avoid future ambiguity. -- Beland 21:37, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

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The result of the debate was no consensus --Kbdank71 17:33, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

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The result of the debate was rename/merge to Foo from Luxembourg --Kbdank71 17:29, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Category:Luxembourg artists to Category:Luxembourgian artists
Category:Luxembourg politicians to Category:Luxembourgian politicians
Category:Luxembourg painters to Category:Luxembourgian painters
Category:Luxembourg art to Category:Luxembourgian art
Category:Luxembourg football clubs to Category:Luxembourgian football clubs

Comment. I'm all in favour of adopting the standard of 'People from Foo', but that isn't the standard currently adopted, and I don't think that anyone is seriously proposing that it be adopted in the near future. Currently, the categories for people by nationality use the adjectival form, and to create an exception for Luxembourg seems a tad off; cities are one thing, but countries are something else.
Furthermore, that list is simply wrong; 'Luxembourgian' is the standard in both British and American English. The only dictionary that I have found that gives 'Luxembourg' as an adjective also gives 'Luxembourgian': Cambridge bilingual. Furthermore, having read extensively on Luxembourg, I can't say that I've found one book or source that consistently uses 'Luxembourg' (some consistently use 'Luxembourgian', some 'Luxembourgish', but never 'Luxembourg'). The CIA has a lot to answer for. Bastin 12:14, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
People from Finland make a sharp distinction between "Finnish" (pertaining to the Finnish language) and "from Finland" (the country). The 6% Swedish-speaking minority in Finland refuse to call themselves Finnish. Extrapolating from this, "from COUNTRY" is the less problematic pattern. --LA2 12:51, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
Generally, it would be. However, 'Luxembourgian' is not a language; the analogy explains only why 'Luxembourgish' should not be used as the national adjective. Bastin 12:58, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
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The result of the debate was delete --Kbdank71 17:23, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

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The result of the debate was rename/merge as nominated --Kbdank71 17:21, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Category:Glasgow Subway tube stations to Category:Glasgow Subway stations

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The result of the debate was rename/merge as nominated --Kbdank71 17:20, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Category:ABC 5 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Associated Broadcasting Company (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

A notice of this discussion has been added to the Filipino Wikipedians notice board. --Howard the Duck 07:57, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
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The result of the debate was delete --Kbdank71 17:19, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

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The result of the debate was no consensus --Kbdank71 17:17, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

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The result of the debate was delete --Kbdank71 17:11, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Category:Pages containing IPA (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

  • This category is metadata and should not be present in the article space without a compelling reason, and I can come up with none. There was a previous CFD in 2004 which kept the category, however I think a second look is worthwhile. I certainly wouldn't be opposed to the same category being populated with talk pages, but even that seems like a waste of time. As it stands it should be deleted. Christopher Parham (talk) 04:19, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep This is similar to Category:Templates using ParserFunctions. It may come in useful some day if for some reason some change needs to be made automatically to all IPA-using pages (for instance, if the official IPA standard changes and all the pages need to be updated accordingly, although this is quite unlikely), and it isn't doing any harm. --ais523 15:14, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
    • It has a substantial difference from the template you mention, in that it appears as part of the encyclopedic content. It disrupts the encyclopedic purpose of the category section, which is to " all the categories to which the topic of the page belongs." (from WP:CAT) To achieve a professional, reliable appearance we should strive where possible to present a complete, clean encyclopedia article; this goal is disrupted to whatever extent our maintenance processes intrude onto the article. Christopher Parham (talk) 17:10, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
    • Additionally, it appears that there is {{IPA}}; without knowing much about it, I would think that the "what links here" of that template could be used in the contingency you describe. Christopher Parham (talk) 20:15, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
      • Based on that, conditional delete, conditional on an alternative being provided (like the IPA template). --ais523 12:43, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete, self-referential and potentially limitless - ideally all articles will contain IPA. Just zis Guy you know? 19:40, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete self-referential and untidy. ReeseM 01:49, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep or provide alternative, I've been going through this category last month or so from A toward Z seeing if I can edit any of the pages that contain IPA (I'm on W right now) and in the process found several pages worth my improvement and monitoring. If there's another way of going through such pages in a similar way, then the category is redundant. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Aeusoes1 (talk • contribs) .
  • Delete per nom. Aeusoes, I think that the list at Special:Whatlinkshere&target=Template:Infobox Language/IPA notice mentioned above should provide what you need. - EurekaLott 14:48, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete this useless category before it grows. Osomec 14:17, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
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The result of the debate was delete; empty --Kbdank71 17:08, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

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The result of the debate was delete --Kbdank71 16:54, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

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The result of the debate was rename/merge as nominated --Kbdank71 16:53, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Category:British Colonial Flags to Category:Flags of British overseas territories
Relisted from July 25. Most flags in the category link to the Commons, so suggest straightforward rename as above. (Prefixing "Images of" seems unnecessary.)  David Kernow 00:30, 4 August 2006 (UTC)


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