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== Kudos == | ||
| Kudos for your support with me creating my first draft and explaining in easy to understand detail about that my draft may actually not work out because of source types. ] (]) 23:45, 17 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| Hi Tim, | |||
| :@] Thank you for your very kind words. I wish I could be more encouraging with this particular draft. I am just not at all sure that you can find verifiable notability for it. If you do then you have my support. 🇺🇦 ] ] 🇺🇦 00:05, 18 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| Thank you for your feedback on the Reid's article. I found it a challenge to balance the requirement for notability with the requirement that it not be advertorial. | |||
| == Nomination of ] for deletion == | |||
| Reid's is the first company in Canada to create these energy neutral homes. This has been covered in a variety of major independent sources, including CBC Radio 1, the Toronto Star, the Department of Natural Resources, and Metroland media. This would all seem to indicate notability. The difficulty is that when I note the evidence of this notability, it can start to look advertorial. | |||
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| Can you give me a recommendation on how to make this more neutral sounding, while still demonstrating the notability to justify a Misplaced Pages article? | |||
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| Thanks, | |||
| :Not my article, but I will look at it and the discussion, @] 🇺🇦 ] ] 🇺🇦 22:12, 18 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| Graeme <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 18:03, 2 October 2015 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
| ::@] Ah, I thought it sounded familiar. I have left a comment, but will not leave an opinion either way. Thank you for letting me know. 🇺🇦 ] ] 🇺🇦 22:17, 18 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| :::No problem! I just wanted to inform you in the case you had anything to contribute or wanted the feedback from that process. Have a nice day! ] (]) 22:34, 18 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| ::::@] It will be interesting to see what happens. I accept borderline drafts reasonably regularly. In many cases I am right to do so, in some the community view differs from mine. I believe all AFC reviewers should get closer to the borderline, because AfD is no shame, it's just a community process rather than an individual's opinion. Anyone taking it personally would be a bit silly, in my view. 🇺🇦 ] ] 🇺🇦 23:01, 18 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| :::::@] Certainly in the early stages of the discussion it appears to be heading for deletion. It would be good if more folk found this discussion and contributed during the remainder of the listing period. I will be happy with either retention or deletion, but a fuller discussion is always better. 🇺🇦 ] ] 🇺🇦 10:00, 19 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| == regarding wikipidea page for manoj tygai, sanskar tv == | |||
| :It can be hard. References verify notability. We require references from ''significant'' coverage ''about'' the topic of the article, and ''independent'' of it, and ''in ]'' please. See ]. Please also see ] which details the limited permitted usage of primary sources and ] which has clear limitations on self published sources. With good references, only one per fact you assert, the tone may be almost totally flat. Aim for Dull-But-Worthy and you will get there, assuming they pass ]. ] ] 18:07, 2 October 2015 (UTC) | |||
| hi, | |||
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| Hi. I'm writing to users who have used the "coordinates missing" template in the last year. Could you please use the standard template "coord missing" instead? While the "coordinates missing" template is a redirect to the "coord missing" template, and thus works fine in articles, using "coord missing" directly makes a number of automated bot workflows work better by eliminating the overhead of having to track down the uses of "coordinates missing" to eliminate the redirects. Thanks, -- ] (]) 12:29, 8 October 2015 (UTC) | |||
| :{{Done}} will try my best to remember. ] ] 12:54, 8 October 2015 (UTC) | |||
| ::Thank you! -- ] (]) 12:36, 9 October 2015 (UTC) | |||
| i saw that you had reviewed the page for Mr. Manoj Tyagi, CEO of sanskar TV and have moved it for not publishing it online. Actually, I am a big fan of his work and have been following him for quite sometime, hence i wanted to create a wiki page for him as i couldn't find any proper page on his name available on the wikipidea. But since, i am a new person over here, can you guide me the correct way so that i can correct my mistakes and republish it again. it would be very helpful for me to learn this new platform and how it works and to know what mistakes i made so that i can correct them and republish the required content. | |||
| == Abigail Jain, Smita Nair Jain, Rajiv Jain == | |||
| Thanks ] (]) 08:59, 20 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| Hello Timtrent, | |||
| :@] I have simply reviewed it and declined it. Please read ], and use that in conjunction with my review. | |||
| Please see these pages, its about me and my parents. They are quiet famous. | |||
| :I have now asked you for second time on your user talk page about paid editing. Please answer that question, on your user talk page, with precision and clarity as the next thing that you do. 🇺🇦 ] ] 🇺🇦 09:10, 20 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| == Hello in refrence to the draft Bruse Wane == | |||
| 1) https://en.wikipedia.org/Abigail_Jain | |||
| Hello Timtrent I hope all is Well. Thank you for extending your time to help me. I have made some changes to the Draft Bruse Wane please take a look at it when you can Thanks ]<nowiki> ~~~~</nowiki> ] (]) 20:05, 20 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| 2) https://en.wikipedia.org/Draft:Smita_Nair_Jain | |||
| :@] I am busy right now. I expect to be able to take a look tonight. 9pm (ish) here 🇺🇦 ] ] 🇺🇦 20:55, 20 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| 3) https://en.wikipedia.org/Draft:Rajiv_Jain | |||
| ::OK thank you. ] (]) 01:41, 21 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| == Quick Question == | |||
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| Hi Timtrent, does ] seem reasonable to you. I'm a bit rusty and I know you are quite experienced with socking around AfC. Thanks, --<span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:#800080;">]</span> <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">]--]</sup> 23:40, 20 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| ] (]) 17:18, 8 October 2015 (UTC) | |||
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:@] I think I might not be able to see a justification for CU, but no harm in asking. Generally the clerks, CUs, and admins are happy with reports like this, and may ask for further information. I'm not familiar with this set of editors, Well done for filing a report. Far too many folk are nervous about doing so, so socks slip past. Yes I think it to be reasonable. 🇺🇦 ] ] 🇺🇦 23:54, 20 January 2025 (UTC) | ||
| ::@] Found one to add to the list, and suggested we may need a sleeper check. 🇺🇦 ] ] 🇺🇦 00:04, 21 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| :::Thanks, I don't suspect this a large sockfarm or anything like that but a check can't hurt. --<span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:#800080;">]</span> <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">]--]</sup> 00:17, 21 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| ::::@] One can never tell. Or at least those of us who don't have the right goggles can never tell. 🇺🇦 ] ] 🇺🇦 00:40, 21 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| == A barnstar for you! == | |||
| :{{Ping|Timtrent}} Trust me ... that i never lie. i won't do all the cheating that going different computer, pretending new user name and editing all different pages mabout my family. I was told by my friend that you shouldn't do. They will delete it. I am a great follower of Mahatma Gandhi | |||
| There is no conflict of interest. | |||
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| == Request on 23:13:34, 8 October 2015 for assistance on ] submission by Calais1984 == | |||
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| |style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" | For your kindness in helping a user, Edward Myer, who was dangerously close to an indef learn how to contribute productively. Thank you so much for all the time and effort you have put into helping the user understand our notability guidelines and improve their draft :) ] <sup>]]</sup> 03:03, 22 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
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| Sorry "Reviewer" you've lost me. Finding it difficult to fathom your "unreliable sources" response. Some details are pre-internet availability, as previously mentioned in a help request I didn't receive an answer to. Each and every source cited is available in hard copy (as previously advised). How do you suggest it is done? Not everything is on the internet. You may like to expand of what sources are unreliable. If government press releases have been removed due to age, is that deemed "unreliable"? We have the hard copies; that's where we have obtained our reliable sources from. You have already advised us that we had too many footnotes, - fair enough with listing our publications - so what gives with "sources unreliable"? It's a Misplaced Pages page, isn't it? Doesn't that cover things pre-internet age? The required format for External Sources and Further Reading is what is difficult to work out how to do it. But I have looked at other Misplaced Pages pages and their External Sources and in identical format. So, over to you guys. It really is complicated trying to fathom Wiki it if one is not a computer nerd. | |||
| PS: What is puzzling is that there is a Misplaced Pages page for Graeme Reeves which is full of inaccuracies from top to bottom and containing factually incorrect information. How did it get uploaded onto Misplaced Pages? It discredits Misplaced Pages.] (]) 23:13, 8 October 2015 (UTC) | |||
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| :{{Ping|Calais1984}} Our role as reviewers is to seek to ensure that an article will not immediately be subject to one of our deletion processes when it is accepted. That is why we push it back to the author. We want to accept articles. I answered the most important parts of your question. Sources do not need to be online, but they need to pass ]. Reliability does not pass with age. | |||
| :The word "we" concerns me. It implies that you are part of the organisation. Please see ] and understand that those rules will apply very fully once the draft is accepted. | |||
| :No precedent is ever set by any article for any other. If it were we would have a brutally fast descent into ]. | |||
| :If by "over to you" you mean that it becomes someone else's job to make this draft acceptable, that ''may'' happen, but it is unlikely. It is down to you. So, if you have a precise, rifle targeted question about the comments I have left for you, please ask it. My answering a general and all encompassing question about life the universe and everything leads me to answer ]. ] ] 06:51, 9 October 2015 (UTC) | |||
| == {{noping|ChicagoFreelanceWriter}} COI/Paid editing == | |||
| Hi {{u|Timtrent}}, I noticed your report on ] for {{noping|ChicagoFreelanceWriter}} - odd that they didn't see it as a username violation given it could be easily shared... Anyway! I recently reviewed their AfC and declined it due to lack of notability. I also reminded them to respond to your talk page messages, so hopefully that helps get the message across for you. Cheers. ] <sup>(])</sup> 11:40, 11 October 2015 (UTC) | |||
| ::Thanks, {{U|Samtar}}. I have placed a report ]. I only mind paid editing when it is not correctly disclosed. ] ] 13:57, 11 October 2015 (UTC) | |||
| == WOP == | |||
| :@] Thank you. Editors in genuine pain deserve one solid try. It is by no means always successful, but the attempt is worthwhile. 🇺🇦 ] ] 🇺🇦 07:24, 22 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| God damn, your pathetic rationales for deletion are coming back to bite you. Next time, put some effort into it. <small class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 19:12, 16 October 2015 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
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Kudos
Kudos for your support with me creating my first draft and explaining in easy to understand detail about that my draft may actually not work out because of source types. UKSchoolUpdates (talk) 23:45, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
- @UKSchoolUpdates Thank you for your very kind words. I wish I could be more encouraging with this particular draft. I am just not at all sure that you can find verifiable notability for it. If you do then you have my support. 🇺🇦 Fiddle Faddle 🇺🇦 00:05, 18 January 2025 (UTC)
Nomination of Alaric Naudé for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Alaric Naudé is suitable for inclusion in Misplaced Pages according to Misplaced Pages's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.
The article will be discussed at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Alaric Naudé until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.
Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article until the discussion has finished.Relm (talk) 18:31, 18 January 2025 (UTC)
- Not my article, but I will look at it and the discussion, @RelmC 🇺🇦 Fiddle Faddle 🇺🇦 22:12, 18 January 2025 (UTC)
- @RelmC Ah, I thought it sounded familiar. I have left a comment, but will not leave an opinion either way. Thank you for letting me know. 🇺🇦 Fiddle Faddle 🇺🇦 22:17, 18 January 2025 (UTC)
- No problem! I just wanted to inform you in the case you had anything to contribute or wanted the feedback from that process. Have a nice day! Relm (talk) 22:34, 18 January 2025 (UTC)
- @RelmC It will be interesting to see what happens. I accept borderline drafts reasonably regularly. In many cases I am right to do so, in some the community view differs from mine. I believe all AFC reviewers should get closer to the borderline, because AfD is no shame, it's just a community process rather than an individual's opinion. Anyone taking it personally would be a bit silly, in my view. 🇺🇦 Fiddle Faddle 🇺🇦 23:01, 18 January 2025 (UTC)
- @RelmC Certainly in the early stages of the discussion it appears to be heading for deletion. It would be good if more folk found this discussion and contributed during the remainder of the listing period. I will be happy with either retention or deletion, but a fuller discussion is always better. 🇺🇦 Fiddle Faddle 🇺🇦 10:00, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
- @RelmC It will be interesting to see what happens. I accept borderline drafts reasonably regularly. In many cases I am right to do so, in some the community view differs from mine. I believe all AFC reviewers should get closer to the borderline, because AfD is no shame, it's just a community process rather than an individual's opinion. Anyone taking it personally would be a bit silly, in my view. 🇺🇦 Fiddle Faddle 🇺🇦 23:01, 18 January 2025 (UTC)
- No problem! I just wanted to inform you in the case you had anything to contribute or wanted the feedback from that process. Have a nice day! Relm (talk) 22:34, 18 January 2025 (UTC)
- @RelmC Ah, I thought it sounded familiar. I have left a comment, but will not leave an opinion either way. Thank you for letting me know. 🇺🇦 Fiddle Faddle 🇺🇦 22:17, 18 January 2025 (UTC)
regarding wikipidea page for manoj tygai, sanskar tv
hi,
i saw that you had reviewed the page for Mr. Manoj Tyagi, CEO of sanskar TV and have moved it for not publishing it online. Actually, I am a big fan of his work and have been following him for quite sometime, hence i wanted to create a wiki page for him as i couldn't find any proper page on his name available on the wikipidea. But since, i am a new person over here, can you guide me the correct way so that i can correct my mistakes and republish it again. it would be very helpful for me to learn this new platform and how it works and to know what mistakes i made so that i can correct them and republish the required content.
Thanks Bizjunket (talk) 08:59, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Bizjunket I have simply reviewed it and declined it. Please read HELP:YFA, and use that in conjunction with my review.
- I have now asked you for second time on your user talk page about paid editing. Please answer that question, on your user talk page, with precision and clarity as the next thing that you do. 🇺🇦 Fiddle Faddle 🇺🇦 09:10, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
Hello in refrence to the draft Bruse Wane
Hello Timtrent I hope all is Well. Thank you for extending your time to help me. I have made some changes to the Draft Bruse Wane please take a look at it when you can Thanks Draft:Bruse Wane ~~~~ Edward Myer (talk) 20:05, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Edward Myer I am busy right now. I expect to be able to take a look tonight. 9pm (ish) here 🇺🇦 Fiddle Faddle 🇺🇦 20:55, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
- OK thank you. Edward Myer (talk) 01:41, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
Quick Question
Hi Timtrent, does WP:Sockpuppet investigations/Beezy Gh seem reasonable to you. I'm a bit rusty and I know you are quite experienced with socking around AfC. Thanks, --Seawolf35 23:40, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Seawolf35 I think I might not be able to see a justification for CU, but no harm in asking. Generally the clerks, CUs, and admins are happy with reports like this, and may ask for further information. I'm not familiar with this set of editors, Well done for filing a report. Far too many folk are nervous about doing so, so socks slip past. Yes I think it to be reasonable. 🇺🇦 Fiddle Faddle 🇺🇦 23:54, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Seawolf35 Found one to add to the list, and suggested we may need a sleeper check. 🇺🇦 Fiddle Faddle 🇺🇦 00:04, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks, I don't suspect this a large sockfarm or anything like that but a check can't hurt. --Seawolf35 00:17, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Seawolf35 One can never tell. Or at least those of us who don't have the right goggles can never tell. 🇺🇦 Fiddle Faddle 🇺🇦 00:40, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks, I don't suspect this a large sockfarm or anything like that but a check can't hurt. --Seawolf35 00:17, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Seawolf35 Found one to add to the list, and suggested we may need a sleeper check. 🇺🇦 Fiddle Faddle 🇺🇦 00:04, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
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| For your kindness in helping a user, Edward Myer, who was dangerously close to an indef learn how to contribute productively. Thank you so much for all the time and effort you have put into helping the user understand our notability guidelines and improve their draft :) MolecularPilot 03:03, 22 January 2025 (UTC) |
- @MolecularPilot Thank you. Editors in genuine pain deserve one solid try. It is by no means always successful, but the attempt is worthwhile. 🇺🇦 Fiddle Faddle 🇺🇦 07:24, 22 January 2025 (UTC)