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Re : I removed the weasels. A ty przywróciłeš je. Czemu? ] (]) 07:43, 17 January 2016 (UTC) | |||
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:I'm not sure which weasels you're referring to. Can you provide a regular diff? Dzieki.] (]) 08:39, 17 January 2016 (UTC) | |||
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== Mukti Bahini == | |||
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:Gandy orders a second round. Cheers to one of our best! ] (]) 15:21, 27 February 2019 (UTC) | |||
Hi Volunteer Mark, thanks for coming over to the ]] page. The discussion had been deadlocked, and I didn't have the energy or knowledge to do anything about it. I should have thought of calling you in fact, but I have been tied up with too many other things. - ] (]) 12:55, 17 January 2016 (UTC) | |||
:<nowiki>*</nowiki>hic* here's another :) sláinte! ]]] 15:27, 27 February 2019 (UTC) | |||
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You go right ahead and report me. I stand by what i said there, your behavior with regards to this subject has been nothing but abusive. ] (]) 23:41, 23 January 2016 (UTC) | |||
A kitten in the hopes that it improves you evening. | |||
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:It's not about what you said. It's about you engaging in disruptive canvassing. Read ].] (]) 23:41, 23 January 2016 (UTC) | |||
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::I know what canvassing says, that has nothing to do with what i did. He was already substantially involved in this dispute before i left a message on his page. I messaged him for exactly the reasons i stated, because you and lipsquid have never missed an opportunity to revert me, and yet didnt lift a finger to revert him. That tells me your behavior is some kind of personal grudge against me and has nothing to do with making a better Misplaced Pages. Why dont we talk about that for a minute? Why dont we discuss you constantly ignoring my concerns with regard to those edits in favor of endless time wasting and reversions? No matter how many times i say that the issue is that the edits dont match the sources cited you never even bother to respond, including this last time where the only reason you cite for opposing removal is that "What may be undue on Jude Wanniski page may not be undue here. Especially since the curve was, you know, named after him." as if that has anything to do with anything. I cant help but notice you couldnt even be bothered to address any of the objections listed in the RfC both by me and the numerous other editors who also objected. And thats not to even mention that this is the fourth page youve done this on. | |||
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::I have no idea what your deal is, why you are so determined to waste my time, but if an admin notice board is the only way to make it stop then so be it. If you really think your actions have been in the best interest of Misplaced Pages then go ahead, waste more peoples time. But I implore you, either substantially respond to the concerns expressed, ALL the concerns on ALL the pages which you have both read and participated in, or for the love of god ]. ] (]) 00:06, 24 January 2016 (UTC) | |||
Hi! Looks like there was some sort of edit conflict glitch and your edit reverted a long comment from Nederlandse Leeuw (which is of interest to me because I was tagged in it). I reverted back, I hesitates because we had a little dustup at arbcon the other week so I thought it best to let you know directly what I was thinking and why I reverted your revert. Wish you the best. ] (]) 17:38, 24 May 2023 (UTC) | |||
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:Yeah, don’t know what happened there. Thanks.<small><span style="border:1px solid black;padding:1px;">]</span></small> 20:11, 24 May 2023 (UTC) | |||
:::This is *exactly* what you did. The moment there was a disagreement you went running to a user's talk page and requested "help". Based on this users' prior statements it was obvious that they would be willing to support you. And that was the reason for you request for "help" (i.e. reverts in an edit war). | |||
:::And I did address your objections, you just haven't listen. Sort of like you claim to have read WP:CANVASS but have not really understood what it says.] (]) 00:10, 24 January 2016 (UTC) | |||
::::He already voted. He didnt just vote, he removed the material in question. I went to him for help because he saw, and acted on what you constantly ignore, the very clear consensus against including this material. And you have not addressed my objections, you didnt in the RfC, you didnt on Art Laffer or anywhere else. If im wrong, then feel free to link to the part where you substantially replied here or at Art Laffer and ill address them. And when i say objections i mean the objections i spelled out clearly in the RfC, the ones where i said that the source doesnt support what the edit says. You know, one of the ] that youve been activily ignoring for months now. ] (]) 00:29, 24 January 2016 (UTC) | |||
:::::Exactly. You went to him to help you in an edit war because based on his previous votes/comments you knew he would be willing. That's disruptive ] to a tee. | |||
:::::I'm not going to rehash the argument here as it appears to be a waste of time. Talk page is over that way, feel free to start an RfC.] (]) 00:39, 24 January 2016 (UTC) | |||
::::::If you want another RfC you start one. The ] is clearly on you if you would like to re-add this material. Be sure to include links the the other three pages where consensus says that we should not include this material as im interested to hear your logic as to why this page is so different. ] (]) 00:49, 24 January 2016 (UTC) | |||
:::::::No, no it's not. Just because one RfC on one article is closed one way, that doesn't mean - as several users pointed out to you - that it applies to any other article you fancy.] (]) 05:56, 24 January 2016 (UTC) | |||
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Reminds you of anything? :/ <sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">]|]</sub> 09:49, 6 November 2023 (UTC) | |||
When I first created that article, I had him as "Polish-Lithuanian". Someone changed that to "Lithuanian", with two references to back it up. Honestly, I'm a poor Angeleno of Scandinavian descent who's totally confused about the appropriate use of place names, personal names, ethnic identities, etc. in the whole Poland-Lithuania-Belarus-Ukraine area. I suspect I'm not alone among English Misplaced Pages users. Anyway, my rule here is: If you disagree...fine, no argument, I was just trying for consistency. ] (]) 21:56, 29 January 2016 (UTC) | |||
:Lol.<small><span style="border:1px solid black;padding:1px;">]</span></small> 19:02, 6 November 2023 (UTC) | |||
:PS, I've put all the links back the way they were...there's still going to be a redirect page for the Lithuanian version of his name. ] (]) 22:06, 29 January 2016 (UTC) | |||
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::No problem, these things are always a mess. Best thing to do is to check how sources describe him. And who knows it could be Ruseckas.] (]) 13:59, 30 January 2016 (UTC) | |||
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==Putin== | |||
That article has been controlled by ] forever, it is a lost cause. Will only get you sanctioned if you continue.] · ] 01:48, 11 February 2016 (UTC) | |||
Hi Volunteer Marek :) I'm looking to interview people ]. Feel free to pass if you're not interested. ] ] 12:44, 4 December 2023 (UTC) | |||
:I can see that. Thanks.] (]) 02:04, 11 February 2016 (UTC) | |||
::I tried agrueing for neutrality at it once but it was futile. So in the end I thought it made more sense to just go over board with the praise and hiding inconvenient stuff.] · ] 02:43, 11 February 2016 (UTC) | |||
:::I have closed the AN3 report as "no violation" but Manus is right - there are some battles you can't win and if you scream at people who disagree with you until you're blue in the face, you'll just get blocked, which is just a big waste of everyone's time, isn't it? ] ] ] 12:09, 11 February 2016 (UTC) | |||
::::Thanks. I'm a bit appalled though that everyone seems to agree that there are serious problems with the article but walks away from it because "it's too much trouble". Which it is, but... . Anyway, I'm going to stick with discussing things on talk and trying to work it out. Outside eyes on the article are much need though.] (]) 17:39, 11 February 2016 (UTC) | |||
::::::You would need at least a handful of dedicated neutral editors with lots of time on their hands to turn the tide at that article. ANd my guess would be that if more folks show up to try to claim the article back to the encyclopedia, more people will appear on the other side as well.] · ] 17:55, 11 February 2016 (UTC) | |||
:::::::I would suggest making use of RfCs a lot I really love RfCs for getting outside input to solve stalemates.] · ] 18:04, 11 February 2016 (UTC) | |||
::::::::Yes, RfC or mediation or DRN or something is needed.] (]) 18:08, 11 February 2016 (UTC) | |||
::::::::It's sort of a ] problem though in that it's such a mess it's hard to know where to even start.] (]) 18:09, 11 February 2016 (UTC) | |||
::::::::::DRN and Arbcom doesnt work for this kind of thing at all. Its the Augean stables except its the stable of a six-butted Hydra and everytime you plug one of its butt two new ones appear. Kind of like the R&I area is becoming lately.] · ] 18:14, 11 February 2016 (UTC) | |||
::::::::::::::Hehe, tilting a bit at the windmills over there. Really the argumentation they make should itself be the cause of banning as they go directly against the idea of being an informative encyclopedia.] · ] 19:31, 12 February 2016 (UTC) | |||
There are classes of articles that ought to have ''Hic Sunt Dragones'' at the top of them as a warning to editors coming armed with common sense (I'm not going to say what exactly but ). The specific problem with Putin is that, unlike ''those'' articles, it's one ordinary people from just about anywhere in the world might actually want to read and get some information from it. It's made doubly hard that the news (at least round here) frequently paints him as a power-crazed warmonger who has stolen so much money he makes ] look like a 7-year old caught with his hand in the till, so getting decent, high quality sources is something of a struggle. ] ] ] 18:26, 11 February 2016 (UTC) | |||
:Yes, does not deserve a decent BLP page. Let it be ridiculous. ] (]) 17:52, 14 February 2016 (UTC) | |||
== Thanks for the hat-tip == | |||
The fact you agree with Maunus that the article is controlled by "Putin-bots", shows that neither of you should be editing the article on Putin. I will make mention of this to the administrative board, so you don't continue to push a POV on the page ] (]) 18:58, 14 February 2016 (UTC) | |||
:Since you're fresh of a week long block for disruptive behavior, you should really ask yourself if that's what you want to do. But whatever.] (]) 19:04, 14 February 2016 (UTC) | |||
It was a pleasant surprise to see your mention of me when completing the editor reflection. I'm impressed that you remember my early forays into privacy protection, and am flattered that they had a positive influence on you. There is a certain irony that, having written some of this stuff more than 15 years ago, my RL name and username are practically used interchangeably within the movement, and I've presented in many public fora under my own name. Wishing you well in the coming year, ] (]) 21:33, 18 December 2023 (UTC) | |||
==Mukti Bahini== | |||
I have started a discussion at ]. There was no consensus about anything there, i just did not have time to reply, when there is too much stuff to evaluate, i need to set aside some time to do that. People have other things to do in life beyond Misplaced Pages. Sometimes i can only do minor edits, so if i could not reply due to a time constraint, you cannot think that i agreed with you but if you think there was any consensus then it is broken now. You need to address the objections and let's see if we can have an agreement otherwise we have other ways to resolve this matter. Moreover you have misunderstanding about ]. I suggest you review it. You cannot force ] to include unsourced material in an article. ] | ] | 19:27, 12 February 2016 (UTC) | |||
:The material is sourced.] (]) 20:22, 12 February 2016 (UTC) | |||
::No, it's not except the paragraphs in "International reaction" section which are irrelevant to the article. ] | ] | 20:36, 12 February 2016 (UTC) | |||
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== Unsourced contributions == | |||
I wonder why you inserted material again. It has no place there, because everything was done according to laws. Just to make it clear, read sections '''VII. Names''' and '''VIII. Signs and information'''. Sourced material doesn't particularly mean it belongs in the article. – ] (]) 09:47, 16 February 2016 (UTC) | |||
:That's not actually relevant. It's not about whether some law exists or not, but whether this process constitutes Lithuanization.] (]) 10:11, 16 February 2016 (UTC) | |||
::Of course, it's relevant. In my opinion, this article has to be removed, because it doesn't contain neutral POV, as it tries to show that Lithuanians are bad to Polish people only. There's no mention about Russians, Belarusians, Ukrainians, etc. – ] (]) 12:26, 16 February 2016 (UTC) | |||
:::Not really. And that's not a reason for "removing" the article. If you want to add about Lithuanization of other groups, be my guest.] (]) 16:46, 16 February 2016 (UTC) | |||
::::The state doesn't force the Lithuanization of surnames. Lithuanian alphabet doesn't have Q, W and X, so it doesn't constitute as Lithuanization. If your name/surname was Marek (just an example, because I know it's a name), you don't have to change it to Marekas (Lithuanian form). There are many names/surnames that don't have the Lithuanian ending. ] sets a perfect example, why the statement about surnames should be removed. – ] (]) 19:07, 17 February 2016 (UTC) | |||
::::As for bilingual street signs, there was a proposition to allow bilingual street signs, but it was never passed and therefore, fines are being issued for breaking the law. This also doesn't constitute as Lithuanization. And it's the same situation as with surnames – only Poles cause these problems (don't have anything against your people as I have Polish friends/acquaintances). – ] (]) 19:07, 17 February 2016 (UTC) | |||
:::::Something can be "according to law" and still be a form of discrimination or of "Lithuanization". The government policy on Lithuanian names and signs is perceived as such by many Poles and it is also the view taken by most reliable sources on the subject.] (]) 19:11, 17 February 2016 (UTC) | |||
::::::''...perceived as such by many Poles...'' Can you justify this claim? Are there any sources about this? Because in Lithuania very few Poles see things as you claimed. Maybe in Poland you hear that Poles are being harmed in every way (I don't know the real situation about the news you hear), but in Lithuanian we hear the same about Lithuanians in Poland. I don't know what you or anyone else in Poland think about ], but they are seen as a laughing stock in Lithuania, Poland and whole Europe. They tend to create conflicts which can be avoided. Their view doesn't represent Polish or Russian minority in Lithuania as they like to claim. something that might give you a good idea who identifies himself as the leader of Poles in Lithuania. I'm not trying to make Polish people look bad, but not everything is true what you hear about things related to them. '''P.s.''' Feel free to reply if want as I'm not trying to create a conflict here. I just state facts from my own view. – ] (]) 10:39, 19 February 2016 (UTC) | |||
Greetings, I'm in discussion with another editor regarding supposedly unsourced contributions to a few wiki articles, can you please help me check if those contribs are supported by sources provided. Discussions are at ] and ] , maybe suggest some forum where I can invite others to help, thanks! ] (]) 16:55, 30 December 2023 (UTC) | |||
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I just wanted to thank you for all your efforts on the ] article. That article looks like a nightmare to deal with.] (]) 11:43, 17 February 2016 (UTC) | |||
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I just wanted to thank you for cleaning up the polish tribunal page. It looks like we may be getting (a very scaled down version of) one . Should be fun! ] (]) 19:33, 22 February 2016 (UTC) | |||
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:Thanks for the thanks! And yeah, when I saw the thing with Scalia I couldn't help but chuckle. (though the details of the situation are sort of reversed) ] (]) 20:02, 22 February 2016 (UTC) | |||
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:Yes, it exceeds this limit because I am the one being attacked and lied about! When four or five people get 500 words to attack one person each, that means they get 2000 or 2500 words to lie. But that person still get 500 words to answer them. | |||
:If ArbCom requests were handled and done differently, this wouldn't be an issue, but they're not, are they? ] (]) 13:50, 1 March 2016 (UTC) | |||
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Hello VM. In the name of the arb case is missing. Did you intend to specify Eastern Europe? Thanks, ] (]) 22:05, 4 March 2016 (UTC) | |||
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:@EdJohnston, no Syria, but I guess EE would work too.] (]) 00:04, 5 March 2016 (UTC) | |||
::There are no Arbcom sanctions for Syria, only the community sanction. But Russian bombing might be covered by ], since Russia is in Eastern Europe. ] (]) 02:15, 5 March 2016 (UTC) | |||
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== 1971 Indo-Pak War Article == | |||
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1. The Agartala Conspiracy Case cannot be excluded from the background section. It was a fundamental part of the mistrust between the West Pakistani establishment and Awami League. Furthermore nearly all sources pertaining to that section are either Bengali or neutral sources. | |||
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2. My edit of the following sentence needs to be restored: | |||
This is unrelated to our back-and-forth, but it is on the same article talk page. I indented and moved your 04:57, 7 July 2024 reply to JDiala because it split their reply to themselves. I hope you don't mind. ]. If you revert, I won't contest it. While I'm here, I struck the DE comment and the explanation is available with my 06:15, 7 July 2024 reply. Carry on, ] (]) 06:31, 7 July 2024 (UTC) | |||
''Between 90,000 and 93,000 members of the Pakistan Armed Forces including paramilitary personnel were taken as Prisoners of War by the Indian Army'' | |||
== Utsa Patnaik == | |||
I added the clause 'and civilians' | |||
Hello VolunteerMarek. I had a query about the reliability of ] on the ] article? I ask because you fully removed her opinion from the body on June 24 because it was apparently fringe, yet another even though it's not a summary of the body and with no remaining mention of Patnaik in the body. I think her view deserves some mention in the body but clearly what this anonymous user added is undue and not following Misplaced Pages's guidelines for the lead section. No other scholar even gets named in the lead apart from Patnaik. ] (]) 11:22, 13 July 2024 (UTC) | |||
You have removed this too. Even though on the 'Bangladesh Liberation War' page it mentions 24,000 civilians as part of the POWs taken (and that statistic are sourced) | |||
:Patnaik , Monbiot and Hickel are most certainly fringe by any reasonable definition of fringe. “Comment is free” is not a reliable source.<small><span style="border:1px solid black;padding:1px;">]</span></small> 18:49, 14 July 2024 (UTC) | |||
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3.In the ''Aftermath-Pakistan'' section there's a great deal of emphasis on Pakistan's 'humiliating' losses and failures. This section does not take into account the extreme circumstances Pakistan's Army found itself fighting in. | |||
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So that statement in praise of Pakistan's millitary performance from the Indian Chief of Army Staff in 1971, Sam Manekshaw (who was a pivotal member of the conflict from the Indian side), should be included to provide a fair assessment of Pakistan's millitary performance in the conflict. | |||
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4. I added a neutral source to backup the paragraph (in the 'Background' section) which said that the Pakistani state claimed that the Pakistani millitary deployment and Operation Searchlight was in response to anti-Bihari mob violence and rioting. You have excluded this pivotal info. | |||
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The source for this info is D'Costa, Bina (2011). Nationbuilding, Gender and War Crimes in South Asia. Routledge. p. 103. | |||
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That too should be restored. It is a sourced sentence I had added. | |||
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:Marek, if you are going to refile the MEDCOM case after the ARBCOM case is concluded, let me suggest that you wait until the RFC that's pending expires so that you can get all of your issues into a single case without complications of who should and should not be notified. - ] (]) 18:34, 5 March 2016 (UTC) | |||
::Thanks, will do that. There actually is no ArbCom case just a request for one, which it looked like it was going to be declined when I filed the request.] (]) 19:06, 5 March 2016 (UTC) | |||
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Hi. In the ] article, you removed from the lead the mention of the "Sinned against, not sinning" of 23 scientists defending him, mentionning that most of these people were associated to the racist ]. Someone readded the mention, and I tried to find a source for your claim, in order to qualify it, but all I could find was a comment on a freethoughtblog article. Do you have another source we could use to make it clear that this man is *not* supported by unbiased scientists? --] (]) 16:56, 6 March 2016 (UTC) | |||
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:It's a question of whether the letter can be regarded as a reliable source and whether it should be given UNDUE weight. That's why it's better to just not include rather than include and qualify it. Really quickly the folks associated with the PF on that list, include at least: Brand, Gottfried , Lynn, McDonald, Nyborg, Rushton, Vanhannen. Probably everyone else too, those are just the ones I'm sure of off the top of my head. If you google each name along with "Pioneer Fund" or "American Renaissance Magazine" (or even "white supremacist") it pops up.] (]) 18:01, 6 March 2016 (UTC) | |||
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:It got accidentally removed when trying to undo some other edits. Thanks for catching that, and I put it back in.] (]) 19:29, 7 March 2016 (UTC) | |||
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:@] - ummm... I made a single revert - *removing* contentious material - and I started a talk page discussion on the subject. That's not "edit warring" that's ]. I also have not been notified or warned prior to the topic ban in anyway. Coffee, would you re-consider removing this topic ban? Maybe you missed that it was only one edit and I did start talk page discussion.] (]) 19:11, 11 March 2016 (UTC) | |||
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:::One more time - there was no "back and forth edit warring". There was a single revert per BRD, complete with the "D" in there. You also didn't place it on the other user. Not that you should or anything, that would be just as ridiculous as this topic ban, but it's worth pointing out. | |||
:::And let me also point out that this practice of yours of topic banning (even if it's a single article, it's still a topic ban) anyone who makes a single revert (but not those who undo that revert) basically allows people to ADD contentious material to a BLP article as long as they can sneak it in and get it to stay there a day or two. Then removing that material becomes hard because someone who does this risks getting this ban from you. That's NOT what you want in a BLP. | |||
:::Can I also inquire why the Bernie Sanders article is the ONLY article from AmericanPolitics2 ArbCom case which is being given this treatment? Surely other articles - other candidates in the election - are just as or even more subject to disruptive editing and edit warring? Any reason for this or is it just random? ] (]) 19:26, 11 March 2016 (UTC) | |||
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:These are NOT "knee jerk blankings". What they are is the restoration of a long standing consensus version after someone tried to POV the hell out of the article. I have not violated any policies so you might want to go and make threats to someone else.] (]) 23:02, 25 March 2016 (UTC) | |||
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*Marek, I'm sorry, but that comment--"Oh, wait, that's right, we can only remove anything that can potentially make Putin look bad (like the fact that there was voter fraud) from the lede, but not anything that makes him look good"--that's the kind of stuff I really can't let you get away with. I'm sorry. ] (]) 02:49, 28 March 2016 (UTC) | |||
Can someone ask ] to restore my comments which I think they accidentally deleted ? ] (]) 02:54, 28 March 2016 (UTC) | |||
And that whole comment was specifically about content. The part you excerpted above is a pretty accurate description of how trying to edit that article has worked so far. It's also not directed at anyone in particular but rather the atmosphere on the article as a whole, so I'm sort of unclear on how it's a "personal attack". But whatever, it's you guys' loss.] (]) 03:02, 28 March 2016 (UTC) | |||
:I think you should request a block review and an unblock, as I don't see how the above comment can be constituted a personal attack. As you say, it's not directed at anyone. --<sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">]|]</sub> 07:46, 28 March 2016 (UTC) | |||
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:::I personally think it's true what {{u|MyMoloboaccount}} says, but at the same time, I've witnessed seemingly ''much'' worse events that got away without a block. As to the merits of Marek's remark, I just saw a bit of sourced text removed from the ] lede with the justification that the lede is only a summary and disputed statements shouldn't be included. Well, the lede is a summary of an article, ''including'' the parts someone doesn't particularly like about it, if they're salient parts, in my book. I've now re-introduced something that I think beings to give a bit of balance to the lede. I'm curious to see how it will be treated. ] (]) 18:27, 28 March 2016 (UTC) | |||
::I restored the edits accidentally removed on the article talk page. P.S. I too probably will not be doing anything on wiki for a while. ] (]) 12:38, 28 March 2016 (UTC) | |||
*Piotrus, you know as well as I do that it was not a neutral remark: it lacks good faith and suggests one's opponents are POV-driven. Again, Marek, I'm sorry, especially since you have been doing good work there. ] (]) 14:51, 28 March 2016 (UTC) | |||
::I agree that Marek was telling that edits by Athenian were POV-driven. In fact, it was exactly what he said. However, I have seen a lot of such claims around, and almost never saw anyone blocked for doing this. Athenian did not seem offended by the comment by Marek and responded reasonably, telling also that he is "willing to disengage" . However, his next edit 7 minutes later was complaint to you which led to this block... ] (]) 16:11, 28 March 2016 (UTC) | |||
:::Athenean went running straight to Drmies to block shop . I seriously doubt they were genuinely offended though, they just saw it as an opportunity. Never-mind comments like these . | |||
:::Anyway, I don't care about the block. I always got better things to do anyway and the way I see it, when I edit Misplaced Pages I'm donating my own time, so I'm the one doing Misplaced Pages a favor, not vice versa. But my comment was an accurate description of how editing on that article works - it is simply impossible to make any kind of meaningful change or improvement unless it is explicitly pro-Putin. Reliable sources are dismissed on the flimsiest and often contradictory pretexts. Any attempt to cut down the overly long article, is instantly revert with disingenuous demands that these edits be "discussed first". Disingenuous because it's pretty obvious no one has much of an interest in genuine discussion but rather uses this "discuss first" tactic to keep control over the article. | |||
:::The funny thing is that pretty much any outside editor that stumbles upon the article has pretty much the same reaction that I did - oh my god this is a piece of junk!!! But pretty much everyone of these people is also saying "leave it alone, it's not worth it", "it's too much trouble", "you can't win this, you'll just get blocked", "it's been controlled by POV editors for too long to change it" etc. So everyone realizes that a genuine problem exists, on an article of major importance, that it really could use some fixin', but everyone is either too busy, too lazy, or too scared (yes), to actually try to work on it. I find that kind of attitude... disheartening. I mean, I understand, I get busy too, I can be lazy and some of the antics going on definitely create a chilling atmosphere. But hey, if *I* want to work on it, I would appreciate some support. Leaving a comment or two on the talk page about how "the atmosphere here sucks" or "the article length needs to be cut" is not going to actually magically fix the problems with the article on its own. You got to actually go in, press that "edit" button and start making the changes, hatchet, buzzsaw and all.] (]) 17:10, 28 March 2016 (UTC) | |||
::::And I certainly agree. However, judging from the most recent arbitration request, this can only be done by people whose accounts were not compromised, who were not previously sanctioned, who are not open to accusations of "tag-teaming", and preferably not Russian citizens (one women recently end up even with her mouse being confiscated by a court in Russia for posting something innocent on the internet). ] (]) 17:46, 28 March 2016 (UTC) | |||
:::::VM makes some very valid general points, and not just about this area of the project. It is very disheartening for many users, who feel intimidated from improving articles. I give my time freely, and I have to make a conscious decision based on an emotional profit/loss balance sheet wherever I edit. Is this going to inevitably end in a fight? Is this going to further shred my nerves? Real life crap is sometimes bad enough, but as a volunteer? So I scout before I edit. I wish I didn't have to. So yeah I get scared off by some areas of the project, I admit it. ] (]) 18:37, 28 March 2016 (UTC) | |||
:::::One editor alone can't fix these problematic areas. Maybe a group of sane, like-minded editors can collaborate on the more gross examples, but often that just degenerates into a bad version of the gunfight at the ok corral. I think the admin corps could be more supportive if it is blatantly obvious that an article has been compromised in terms of POV and regular editing patterns and eds who own articles. That would encourage other editors, who have knowledge of the subject and wish to get involved. I am talking about perhaps thousands of articles that are affected. It's a systemic issue. Ironically, the I/P articles are less stressful of late. There are clear rules of engagement, high admin scrutiny and even a measure of respect among the regular eds of differing POVs developing. Because pissing about there has become a zero-sum game. Maybe a similar model can be put into operation in this area. ] (]) 19:15, 28 March 2016 (UTC) | |||
::::::Saw my edits mentioned by a user so I'll make a short comment. Re "The funny thing is that pretty much any outside editor that stumbles upon the article has pretty much the same reaction that I did - oh my god this is a piece of junk!!!" I can only say, that I ''came'' to the article as an outside user who is pro-Russia and anti-Putin; the reaction I got was also "piece of junk" but, however, not caused by pro-Putin editors but rather by a small clique of anti-Putin, potentially anti-Russian editors who are turning the page into a travesty (the recent attempts to argue "Putin is fascist according to RSs" is a typical example). In particular, I'd have to highlight VM in this regard. Sure, what he got blocked for was a relatively minor issue compared with his usual everyday attitude, but some admin really had to step in taking the whole picture into account and say ''It can't go on like that any more''. ] (]) 19:43, 28 March 2016 (UTC) |
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Hi! Looks like there was some sort of edit conflict glitch and your edit reverted a long comment from Nederlandse Leeuw (which is of interest to me because I was tagged in it). I reverted back, I hesitates because we had a little dustup at arbcon the other week so I thought it best to let you know directly what I was thinking and why I reverted your revert. Wish you the best. Horse Eye's Back (talk) 17:38, 24 May 2023 (UTC)
- Yeah, don’t know what happened there. Thanks. Volunteer Marek 20:11, 24 May 2023 (UTC)
Panama Section in 'Allegation of CIA trafficking' page
Sometime back you made this edit on the 'Allegations of CIA drug trafficking' page:.
There is talk of restoring that section (on-going) on that talk page....I give my thoughts there. I'd be interested to know what you think (maybe expand upon the reasons given in your edit summary)Rja13ww33 (talk) 18:17, 24 June 2023 (UTC)
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Reminds you of anything? :/ Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 09:49, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
- Lol. Volunteer Marek 19:02, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
- Um... I hope my ping at WT:RFA didn't bother you. I didn't mean to remind you of what you went through but I was somewhat angry on your behalf. I didn't really know much about what Icewhiz did before I read your comment months ago and seeing FeydHuxtable write
Not sure why several seem to think exceptional editors like Wifione & Icewhiz had malcious intent? Ice used to be a fellow ARS member, he was unusually gentle until he suffered severe provocation. He only sought adminship as a means to fight a certain evil. His play for adminship might have failed, but he simply kept taking things to a new level until his will proved too great for the community to resist. Much as I believe Ice was mistaken in seeing said evil as residing in certain edtiors or being tolerated by Misplaced Pages as a whole, one has to admire his ingenuity & determintation to achieve rightful victory (as he saw it).
bothered me. I was hoping that maybe the diff I shared would be like a victim impact statement? But I also didn't want to speak on your behalf because obviously you can do so for yourself (hence the courtesy ping). But again, I didn't mean to remind you what you went through. If you don't want me to ping you about similar situations in the future, I'll respect that. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 14:09, 13 November 2023 (UTC)
- Um... I hope my ping at WT:RFA didn't bother you. I didn't mean to remind you of what you went through but I was somewhat angry on your behalf. I didn't really know much about what Icewhiz did before I read your comment months ago and seeing FeydHuxtable write
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This is unrelated to our back-and-forth, but it is on the same article talk page. I indented and moved your 04:57, 7 July 2024 reply to JDiala because it split their reply to themselves. I hope you don't mind. Link for review. If you revert, I won't contest it. While I'm here, I struck the DE comment and the explanation is available with my 06:15, 7 July 2024 reply. Carry on, Mr rnddude (talk) 06:31, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
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Hello VolunteerMarek. I had a query about the reliability of Utsa Patnaik on the Bengal Famine of 1943 article? I ask because you fully removed her opinion from the body on June 24 because it was apparently fringe, yet another anonymous user on July 1 added a whole paragraph sourced to Patnaik to the lead about inflation even though it's not a summary of the body and with no remaining mention of Patnaik in the body. I think her view deserves some mention in the body but clearly what this anonymous user added is undue and not following Misplaced Pages's guidelines for the lead section. No other scholar even gets named in the lead apart from Patnaik. 185.21.22.198 (talk) 11:22, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
- Patnaik , Monbiot and Hickel are most certainly fringe by any reasonable definition of fringe. “Comment is free” is not a reliable source. Volunteer Marek 18:49, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
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