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| hello. i would like to see your valid argument in reverting my contribs to ] and ]. ] (]) 13:55, 3 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
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| :Stop with "war flag" please. There is no war flag whatsoever, and that naval flag shouldn't be on the infobox at all. Those civil ensigns aren't real flags either. ] (]) 17:15, 3 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
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| * https://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news-photo/the-balkan-war-1912-13-turkish-infantry-on-the-move-news-photo/830214480 | |||
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| * https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b69224969/ | |||
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| * https://www.reddit.com/r/Turkey/comments/15600m7/bu_bayrak_ne_bayra%C4%9F%C4%B1/ | |||
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| * https://web.archive.org/web/20220104124418/https://denizmuzesi.dzkk.tsk.tr/en/content/563 | |||
| also, i've been editing wiki since two months, what do you mean by 'years'. cheers.] (]) 21:20, 3 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
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| Hello! I noticed your recent revert and on my end it looks like the "ك" is merging into the "ен" in the infobox title. Would it be alright to revert your edit? (Note: I have not reverted it, my recent edit was adding an endash.) <span style="font-family: century gothic;">]<u> ] </u> • '']]''</span> 04:17, 8 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| == Unexplained revert == | |||
| :{{re|xRozuRozu}} I don't see it that way, maybe your browser has the problem? Your version has a big space between those two. ] (]) 11:16, 8 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| Could you please explain this revert here ? A Turkish source gave an updated claim on Turkish losses, and a Kurdish source gave an updated claim on Kurdish and Turkish losses. So, I updated both the previous Turkish claim on their own losses, and the previous Kurdish claim on both sides losses that was already in the infobox. We have been presenting both sides POV on the matter of losses per Misplaced Pages's policy on neutrality. ] (]) 03:37, 27 June 2016 (UTC) | |||
| ::I see. I tried accessing the page on Chrome (Macbook + Chromebook + phone), Safari (Macbook + phone), and the mobile app. It seems like it only shows correctly on my phone's Chrome/Safari, however not the app (where almost all of the Cyrillic is obscured). | |||
| :Changing "PKK members" to "Kurdish fighters" is not neutrality, and please check your sources. ] (]) 11:40, 27 June 2016 (UTC) | |||
| ::I do suppose that most readers would probably access the page on a web browser on their phone, but I think that having "a big space" is better than having overlapping text. <span style="font-family: century gothic;">]<u> ] </u> • '']]''</span> 02:23, 9 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| ::I did check my sources, and if you did as well you would see the source was referring to dead YPS members as well, not just PKK. Even though the YPS was born out of the PKK as their youth wing, and considered part of the PKK by many (such as Turkey), they are still at least officially separate from the PKK and we have listed them as such in the beligerents section of the infobox. THAT is why I changed it from PKK members to Kurdish fighters, so it would include all Kurdish combatants. If that was your whole problem it wouldn't warrant a full revert of my whole edit. And I don't see how that change is ''not neutrality'', and implying that I am non-neutral is a bit offensive and not per WP policy on assuming good faith from your fellow editors. ] (]) 16:03, 27 June 2016 (UTC) | |||
| :::I see now on mobile. It's | |||
| :::nastalic text. No reason for it. ] (]) 10:38, 9 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| == Dersim massacre/rebellion == | |||
| The point is the article is called the Dersim massacre. You can't just change the content without a change in name. Go to ] and follow the procedure there. I've just done that very thing. You also reverted sourced content, you didn't just replace the word massacre with the word rebellion. I've got no opinion on this, but the editor I first reverted is a new editor with a number of problems. ] ] 19:06, 9 July 2016 (UTC) | |||
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| Do not move Armenia to partially or unrecognized, it doesnt make sense. Partially means only in part; to a limited extent. How is one country out of close to 200 partially? ] (]) 04:43, 11 July 2016 (UTC) | |||
| :Armenia is partially recognized, they're not recognized by Pakistan. | |||
| ''Pakistan was the first country along with Turkey to recognize Azerbaijan after its independence. Pakistan does not recognize Armenia and will never do so. We speak with one voice on NagornoKarabakh. On 14th March, 2008 we together passed the first Resolution 882 on Nagorno-Karabakh. Azerbaijan has supported us on Kashmir and we are thankful to you for that.'' | |||
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| ] (]) 14:06, 11 July 2016 (UTC) | |||
| ::You are deliberately ignoring the definition of the word partial. Pakistan is the only country out of close to 200 that doesnt recognize Armenia. http://defence.pk/threads/pakistan-the-only-country-not-recognizing-armenia.298703/. If you change the page again i will report you for vandalism to the mods. ] (]) 16:26, 11 July 2016 (UTC) | |||
| :::You can do that.. ] (]) 18:34, 11 July 2016 (UTC) | |||
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| == Reverted edit == | |||
| Hello Beshogur, | |||
| why exactly did you revert me? Îlan/Yilanli was mentioned in the article I cited. But apart from that, I didn't change it, since it was only a claim by SDF. What I changed was the sign for Mankubah. This village north of Manbij isn't by far at the frontline anymore and there is no reason why the fighters of the SDF should have left it alone, especially if you regard the fact that it was already contested before. | |||
| Apart from that, thanks for your contributions on the map modules, they are definitely helpful. | |||
| Cheers, ] (]) 23:37, 27 July 2016 (UTC) | |||
| :I'm sorry if I have an fault. Thanks anyway. ] (]) 23:43, 27 July 2016 (UTC) | |||
| == Kurdish-Turkish conflict == | |||
| is a Turkish news agency (]) and says 5,000 killed. is an article in Turkish, distinguishing between killed, wounded and arrested, and says 5,000 killed (7,000 neutralized). I may be wrong, but that was also the stable version before your edit. If we are not understanding correctly, please explain on the talk page. Thanks, ] (]) 21:08, 29 July 2016 (UTC) | |||
| :Okay I can understand you, but Turkish agencies uses '''Neutralized''' instead '''killed'''. There are big mistakes. ] (]) 21:14, 29 July 2016 (UTC) | |||
| :: So? Can I revert back to ''killed''? ] (]) 21:20, 29 July 2016 (UTC) | |||
| :::Do it. ] (]) 23:03, 29 July 2016 (UTC) | |||
| == Syrian civil war map edit == | |||
| Please check the talk page ], I've given my reasons for the change. --] (]) 17:15, 16 August 2016 (UTC) | |||
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| Mare' was captured by rebels in June, stop vandalizing.<ref>https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/rebels-advance-rapidly-amid-full-scale-isis-retreat-northern-aleppo-map-update/</ref><ref>http://qasioun.net/en/news/show/28405/Opposition_break_the_siege_by_ISIS_on_Mare%E2%80%99a</ref><ref>http://www.syriahr.com/2016/06/08/%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%81%D8%B5%D8%A7%D8%A6%D9%84-%D8%AA%D9%86%D9%81%D8%B0-%D9%87%D8%AC%D9%88%D9%85%D8%A7%D9%8B-%D9%85%D8%B9%D8%A7%D9%83%D8%B3%D8%A7%D9%8B-%D9%82%D8%B1%D8%A8-%D9%85%D8%AF%D9%8A%D9%86%D8%A9/</ref><ref>http://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-syria-northwest-idUSKCN0YU0PT</ref> | |||
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| == Tuz Khurmatu == | |||
| According to your own source there is an agreement to withdraw all forces and hand over town to local police. So why should that be marked as red? If anything the town has always been administered by kurds and the mayor is kurdish. So if one color is chosen it should be yellow. Best option is to mark as joint unless you want to make a new color to explain "local police force". ] (]) 16:21, 24 August 2016 (UTC) | |||
| :There isn't Kurdish police in Iraq, so the local police is the police of the central gov't. ] (]) 16:46, 24 August 2016 (UTC) | |||
| ::There is kurdish police in all kurdish areas. Why do you assume its the local police of the central gov't and not the KRG? Mayor is kurdish and town has been under kurdish adminstration since 2003. If they are under central gov't there would be no point in an "agreement" from a peshmerga perspective, as it would constitute surrendering the town to the central gov't which is unheard of. The local police by logical intuition must be local, non-partisan and seperate from main iraqi-police which is really just a formality as Iraq is not organized and army/police/millitias are all the same. Millitias might aswell not have left then. Do you get my point? ] (]) 23:23, 24 August 2016 (UTC) | |||
| == Jarabulus is still contested according to SOHR == | |||
| Hello you reverted my edit on the module of Syrian civil war. SOHR is frequently used as a source by news organisations as it gives unbiased info. Besides why do you think that something is true simply based on an official claim by a government. Undeniably SOHR can be considered more reliable and neutral than an official statement of a government. I hope you will understand this and will revert your edit. Thank you very much. ] (]) 20:04, 24 August 2016 (UTC) | |||
| :I don't care about SOHR. Because I trust in the anouncment of the state. + There were dozens of videos about Jarablus city center. Get your facts. ] (]) 20:07, 24 August 2016 (UTC) | |||
| :: That's biased editing. If Syria annouced it captured Aleppo will you believe it? SOHR is one of the most reliable sources of the conflict. If you don't revert I'll have to revert you. ] (]) 20:10, 24 August 2016 (UTC) | |||
| :::Ok, sorry then, my fault. ] (]) 20:13, 24 August 2016 (UTC) | |||
| :::Mere videos of the city centre does not mean "the whole city" is under control. Areas in a city can still be under control of others. Seems you did not understand it properly. Besidea I see you have realised your mistake. Can you please self-revert now? ] (]) 20:15, 24 August 2016 (UTC) | |||
| ::::I'll do. ] (]) 20:18, 24 August 2016 (UTC) | |||
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| == Syrian Civil War == | |||
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baseless revertions
hello. i would like to see your valid argument in reverting my contribs to Flags of the Ottoman Empire and Flag of Turkey. 83.9.35.43 (talk) 13:55, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- Stop with "war flag" please. There is no war flag whatsoever, and that naval flag shouldn't be on the infobox at all. Those civil ensigns aren't real flags either. Beshogur (talk) 17:15, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
in the case of the ottoman empire please refer to; war flag:
- https://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news-photo/the-balkan-war-1912-13-turkish-infantry-on-the-move-news-photo/830214480
- https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b69224969/
- https://www.reddit.com/r/Turkey/comments/15600m7/bu_bayrak_ne_bayra%C4%9F%C4%B1/
naval ensign;
also, i've been editing wiki since two months, what do you mean by 'years'. cheers.83.9.35.43 (talk) 21:20, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
Turkmens
Hello! I noticed your recent revert and on my end it looks like the "ك" is merging into the "ен" in the infobox title. Would it be alright to revert your edit? (Note: I have not reverted it, my recent edit was adding an endash.) x RozuRozu • cups 04:17, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
- @XRozuRozu: I don't see it that way, maybe your browser has the problem? Your version has a big space between those two. Beshogur (talk) 11:16, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
- I see. I tried accessing the page on Chrome (Macbook + Chromebook + phone), Safari (Macbook + phone), and the mobile app. It seems like it only shows correctly on my phone's Chrome/Safari, however not the app (where almost all of the Cyrillic is obscured).
- I do suppose that most readers would probably access the page on a web browser on their phone, but I think that having "a big space" is better than having overlapping text. x RozuRozu • cups 02:23, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- I see now on mobile. It's
- nastalic text. No reason for it. Beshogur (talk) 10:38, 9 January 2025 (UTC)