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== ] reported by ] (Result: Page protected indef) == | |||
'''Page:''' {{pagelinks|List of religious slurs}} | |||
== ] reported by ] (Result:Blocked) == | |||
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'''User being reported:''' {{userlinks|Xuangzadoo}} | ||
'''User being reported:''' {{userlinks|Florinbaiduc }} | |||
'''Previous version reverted to:''' | |||
A new editor, possibly another sock (but I don't think so), returns to an old, old battleground. Read the ''extensive'' talk: archives for all the past re-runs of this. | |||
'''Diffs of the user's reverts:''' | |||
: Removing "]" from the lead. | |||
# {{diff2|1270068423|19:29, 17 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Undid revision ] by ] (rv, none of that contradicts my edits. There are no sources which call "pajeet" a religious slur directed at Hindus. It's only a religious slur for sikhs. There are no sources which call Chuhras Christians or Hindus, they are muslims. There are no sources which mention "cow piss drinker" originating in the US, it's from South Asia. None of my edits contradict what the talk page says.)" | |||
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# {{diff2|1270041541|16:57, 17 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Undid revision ] by ] (The articles specifically mention "pajeet" as a religious slur directed at sikhs and/or as a racial slur directed at other south asians. There is no mention of "pajeet" being directed as a religious slur at Hindus.)" | |||
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# {{diff2|1270039369|16:44, 17 January 2025 (UTC)}} "/* Hindus */ not a religious slur targeted at Hindus, removed" | |||
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# "The two sources added for "Pajeet" specifically mention that it's directed at Sikhs or at south asians racially, not at Hindus religiously, removed. "Sanghi" does not have a separate mention for Kashmir in any of its sources, removed. Added disambiguating link to Bengali Hindus. Corrected origin of "cow-piss drinker" to the correct country of origin as mentioned in the source. Added further information for "Dothead"." | |||
: Replacing it with "]" | |||
# "Undid revision 1269326532 by Sumanuil" | |||
'''Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:''' | |||
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# {{diff2|1270041824|16:58, 17 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Warning: Edit warring on ]." | |||
: and another, since this was posted | |||
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'''Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:''' | |||
Coanda's 1910 aircraft is an obscure and misunderstood aircraft. It made no impact at the time and was ignored and forgotten. In 1956 Coanda, by now well-known for later work, made claims about this aircraft as it being the first aircraft with a jet engine, specifically a ] (he never claimed it was a ] or ]). '''''If''''' these claims were true, this would be an important aircraft with a different article. | |||
# {{diff2|1270040704|16:52, 17 January 2025 (UTC)}} "/* 'Anti-Christian slurs' */ cmt" | |||
# {{diff2|1270045411|17:18, 17 January 2025 (UTC)}} "/* Kanglu */ add" | |||
<u>'''Comments:'''</u> | |||
These claims have been thoroughly debunked, starting with ], whose describes it thus, "The whole claim is naughty nonsense". Yet there is still a justified nationalistic pride in Coanda, and an unjustified one in this "jet aircraft" claim. | |||
All these reverts yet not a single response at the talkpage. - ] (]) 01:42, 18 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
{{user|Florinbaiduc}} appears in this article. I assume from their name, and past edits, that they are of Romanian ancestry. They first seem to take issue with "ducted fan" as a term, claiming that the centrifugal compressor generally believed to have been used is ''different'' from this, rather than a subset of (as is already thoroughly sourced). Now they are swapping it for "]", which is Coanda's debunked 1956 claim. | |||
:I am replying here as I'm not sure what you want from me. | |||
We have been there before with this article. I do not wish to go back there. Especially not when Florin's responses are mostly abuse of other editors and their educational level ] (]) 14:16, 11 November 2016 (UTC) | |||
:Every edit I made is fairly accurate and doesn't contradict or vandalize any of wikipedia's rules. | |||
*{{AN3|b}} – 24 hours for 3RR violation by ]. See also ] from 2011, though the Committee didn't authorize discretionary sanctions. ] (]) 16:04, 11 November 2016 (UTC) | |||
:] (]) 07:29, 18 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:: You are still edit warring without posting at the talkpage. - ] (]) 16:07, 19 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:: More reverts , can someone do something? - ] (]) 01:06, 20 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::: {{AN3|p}} I also note the user has been alerted to CTOPS, which I protected the page under, so there will be no room for argument if this behavior continues. ] (]) 23:43, 21 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
== ] reported by ] (Result: No violation) == | |||
::Florinbaiduc is blocked for 24 hours but if he starts back up with edit warring the length of block will increase according to blocking policy. This guy appears to be ] but instead for the purpose of advancing a (debunked) position of national pride. ] (]) 16:06, 11 November 2016 (UTC) | |||
'''Page:''' {{pagelinks|Battle of Jamrud}} | |||
== ] reported by ] (Result: Indeffed) == | |||
''' |
'''User being reported:''' {{userlinks|Noorullah21}} | ||
'''User being reported:''' {{userlinks|Crnibombarder}} | |||
'''Previous version reverted to:''' | |||
'''Diffs of the user's reverts:''' | |||
# {{diff2|1270170387|07:17, 18 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Restored revision 1270112351 by ] (]): No it hasn't, they haven't even given their conclusion, and you again edited the page to revert it.." | |||
# {{diff2|1270112351|00:05, 18 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Restored revision 1270108346 by ] (]): No he doesn't, please take this to the talk page now to be more clear." | |||
# {{diff2|1270108346|23:36, 17 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Restored revision 1270099439 by Noorullah21: "where they too were saved by the arrival of substantial reinforcements. | |||
Akbar Khan broke off the engagement and returned to Jalalabad, leaving | |||
the Sikhs in control of Jamrud, but when he returned to Kabul he claimed | |||
the victory and was given a hero’s welcome. For decades after, this pyrrhic | |||
victory was celebrated annually in the Afghan capital.39" -Lee, (calls it a phyrric Afghan victory), and Hussain isn't on google scholars." | |||
'''Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:''' | |||
Previous version reverted to: | |||
# {{diff2|1270110872|23:56, 17 January 2025 (UTC)}} "/* January 2025 */ new section" | |||
# {{diff2|1270113286|00:10, 18 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Warning: Removal of content, blanking on ]." | |||
# {{diff2|1270205537|12:01, 18 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Final warning: Removal of content, blanking on ]." | |||
'''Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:''' | |||
# {{diff2|1269985195|10:35, 17 January 2025 (UTC)}} "/* Aftermath section */ new section" | |||
# {{diff2|1270115828|00:28, 18 January 2025 (UTC)}} "/* Aftermath section */ Reply" | |||
# {{diff2|1270117437|00:37, 18 January 2025 (UTC)}} "/* Aftermath section */ Reply" | |||
# {{diff2|1270123153|01:15, 18 January 2025 (UTC)}} "/* Aftermath section */ Reply" | |||
# {{diff2|1270124950|01:27, 18 January 2025 (UTC)}} "/* Aftermath section */ Reply" | |||
# {{diff2|1270128846|01:53, 18 January 2025 (UTC)}} "/* Aftermath section */ Reply" | |||
# {{diff2|1270130305|02:01, 18 January 2025 (UTC)}} "/* Aftermath section */ Reply" | |||
# {{diff2|1270131478|02:08, 18 January 2025 (UTC)}} "/* Aftermath section */ Reply" | |||
# {{diff2|1270133699|02:23, 18 January 2025 (UTC)}} "/* Aftermath section */ Reply" | |||
<u>'''Comments:'''</u> | |||
Diffs of the user's reverts: | |||
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This is not the first time they are edit warring and breaking 3RR, they were previously warned by an admin . There seems to be a habit of them continuously misinterpreting the sources and pushing certain PoVs. They have opted for 3O by themselves but disagreed with the opinion given. ] 12:22, 18 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
<u>Comments:</u> <br /> | |||
:Im not that involved(haven’t reverted anybody, just made a comment on the talk page). As a word of advice because so many people seem to forget this fact, when your adding disputed content, ONUS is on you to attain consensus. Which hasn’t happened here. | |||
User has been blocked twice already for making the same edits without consensus. As soon as his block expires he comes back and just starts making them again. - ''''']]''''' 17:29, 11 November 2016 (UTC) | |||
:“The responsibility for achieving consensus for inclusion is on those seeking to include disputed content.” | |||
*Indefinitely blocked.--] (]) 18:56, 11 November 2016 (UTC) | |||
== ] reported by ] (Result: Semi) == | |||
:It seems that you yourself were also edit warring, except your the one who’s adding disputed content so per ONUS, you were never supposed to revert him to begin with. You need to wait until talk page discussions conclude and gain consensus. ] (]) 15:13, 18 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
;Page: {{pagelinks|Presidential transition of Donald Trump }} | |||
::A. The instance you pointed out was an administrator warning me for one revert on the History of India page. (Talking to Indo-Greek, the person who reported and I had a dispute with here..) | |||
;User being reported: {{userlinks|63.143.192.228}} | |||
::B. When the individual hasn't concluded their ], you immediately reverted the page again saying they did. There's still a very open discussion with the user... (They've even edited the page most recently!.. I'd also like to remind you ] is non binding even when the opinion is given, meaning whether they say either or is in the right.. the dispute can still continue until a ] can be made. The burden of proof is on you for ] (you also kept readding a non ] source.. (Farrukh Hussain). I pointed out ] as a solution, and you keep reverting the page far before they've given their opinion. Lee... (this is now bringing the argument from the talk page here..) calls it a phyrric victory. ] (]) 16:02, 18 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:::I also told said where per ], it's per them to seek Consensus. ] (]) 16:17, 18 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::::I reverted my edit as of now per the edit summary. (the last edit prior to that is the person working on our ]. ] (]) 16:34, 18 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:::This seems like ], but anyways. The admin had warned you for the same edit warring issue, not 1RR. You had asked for 3O which an editor eventually gave one quoting: {{tq|I found a huge contradiction in your quote. You said "Nothing here calls the battle a Sikh victory," but the quote literally says "The Sikhs had beaten the Afghans"}} which was later discarded by you which is fine, but if other editors accusing you for overlooking the source and found you contradicting yourself then you should have been more cautious rather than outrightly reverting my changes. ] 16:56, 18 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::::Have you not read the rest of the discussion..? the ] is being discussed. | |||
::::You've completely ignored this. | |||
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::::Scroll down! (on the talk page). ] (]) 17:10, 18 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:::::I also didn't violate the 3 revert rule. I didn't revert 4 times, I reverted 3 times. Although of course, this seems to be more inclined toward edit warring, which both of us did. | |||
:::::@] has just jumped into the discussion (and they seem to be more in favor of my argument) -- per their most recent talk page msg on the battle of jamrud, which shows a growing consensus on my side? .. Nonetheless, I still find this report baseless. ] (]) 17:35, 18 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::::::'''Both of us did''' No, I barely reverted your changes two times. You need to go through ], don't confuse it with ]. I also think that Someguywhosbored didn't jump here randomly and what consensus you're referring to? The report is not baseless besides it shows some sign of ]. ] 19:39, 18 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:::::::What? | |||
:::::::"No, I barely reverted your changes two times. You need to go through WP:3RR" -- Yes, I'm talking about myself.. I reverted 3 times, to break the 3rr rule, you have to revert more than three times (i.e 4 times) "An editor must not perform '''more than three reverts''' on a single page" -- I also self reverted per the former. | |||
:::::::"Someguywhosbored didn't jump here randomly and what consensus you're referring to?" -- He responded on the talk page (of the page), he responded here, and he also re-reverted the page. | |||
:::::::'''"The report is not baseless besides it shows some sign of WP:MEAT."''' - Are you insinuating @] is a Meatpuppet? Because you've drawn effectively numerous flanks into the air on what this report is really about. | |||
:::::::A. In your edit summary you said the Third opinion was concluded.. (it wasn't.) | |||
:::::::B. You report here for 3rr (when 3rr wasn't violated, and I'm assuming this is more inclined toward edit war..?) | |||
:::::::C. You then throw around Meatpuppet accusations? | |||
:::::::I'm sorry but there's no way this discussion is remaining civil anymore. Did you even read the Meatpuppet page? '''"The term meatpuppet may be seen by some as derogatory and should be used with care, in keeping with Misplaced Pages:Civility. Because of the processes above, it may be counterproductive to directly accuse someone of being a "meatpuppet", and doing so will often only inflame the dispute."''' | |||
:::::::Flinging around accusations of Meatpuppetry clearly breaches ]. ] (]) 20:05, 18 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::::::::You also did revert it three times.. Shown here: | |||
:::::::: (First time) | |||
:::::::: (Second time) | |||
:::::::: (Third Time) ] (]) 20:42, 18 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:::::::::You are again falsely accusing me of breaking 3RR. You do realise that the first revert was more than 24 hours prior than the other two? I don't have much to say here it's quite self explanatory, while this is not the same case with you, where 3RR has been violated in the span of 24 hours. ] 21:09, 18 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::::::::::I'm not accusing you of breaking 3RR, I'm saying you reverted three times. To break 3RR it has to be four reverts. (you have to revert more than three times). Your reverts were also in a 24 hour period. (Or just shy of it?) | |||
::::::::::I didn't revert four times to break 3RR. Where are the diffs of me reverting you four times? ] (]) 21:12, 18 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
{{outdent|10}}{{AN3|noex}} As noted in the ''loooong'' discussion above, which again proves that using the talk page is a much preferable alternative to taking it over here. Also, this is getting a bit stale. ] (]) 12:33, 20 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
== ] reported by ] (Result: Declined) == | |||
;Previous version reverted to: | |||
'''Page:''' {{pagelinks|Next Danish general election }} <br /> | |||
{{hat|1=Lengthy report collapsed to save space }} | |||
'''User being reported:''' {{userlinks|Thomediter}} | |||
;Diffs of the user's reverts: | |||
# {{diff2|749028304|22:25, 11 November 2016 (UTC)}} "Restored unexplained deletion of content. Added additional references in the NY Times stating that protestors have been protesting "NO KKK, NO FASCISM". Everything I added is impeccably sourced, neutral, and relevant. There are riots in the streets" | |||
# {{diff2|749027747|22:20, 11 November 2016 (UTC)}} "The text I added doesn't say "swift retaliation". All it says is "leading some to fear that Trump would retaliate against protesters, post-transition". Removed the KKK material." | |||
# {{diff2|749027238|22:16, 11 November 2016 (UTC)}} "added info, more refs. others may assist in the adding of refs on this notable info" | |||
# {{diff2|749027092|22:14, 11 November 2016 (UTC)}} "More refs added. Please collaborate, rather than destroy. This is neutral, well sourced, reliable notable info relevant to the topic. It is a crime against encylopedias to not mention the protests here. Are you people living under a rock?" | |||
# {{diff2|749026796|22:12, 11 November 2016 (UTC)}} "Please do not delete well-sourced content without a legitimate explanation. This is not vandalism, and is highly neutral. Tweak for extra neutrality." | |||
# {{diff2|749026320|22:08, 11 November 2016 (UTC)}} "Correcting a spelling error is unconstructive? "formally" does not mean "formerly". Undid revision 749026193 by ] (])" | |||
# {{diff2|749025830|22:03, 11 November 2016 (UTC)}} "more neutrality. do not delete well sourced content without explanation" | |||
# {{diff2|749024863|21:54, 11 November 2016 (UTC)}} "addressed the issues. more neutrality. let's work together as a team." | |||
# {{diff2|749023775|21:45, 11 November 2016 (UTC)}} "fixed the issues you pointed out. let's collaborate, rather than destroy each other's work. key info is in here, friend." | |||
'''Diffs of the user's reverts:''' | |||
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# {{diff2|749027869|22:21, 11 November 2016 (UTC)}} "Warning: Edit warring on ]. (])" | |||
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Editor was and that one more revert would result in them being reported for breaching 3RR. They made the fourth revert immediately after responding to the warning. | |||
;Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: | |||
'''Diff of ANEW notice posted to user's talk page:''' | |||
<u>'''Comments:'''</u> <br /> | |||
*], I am going to revert your last (fourth) revert; you are indeed edit warring and you're not giving any reasons for your edits, never mind for your ongoing reverts. If you revert one more time you will be blocked. Please don't let it get that far. Seek the talk page. ] (]) 17:40, 18 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::{{AN3|d}} per above and reported editor's inactivity. ] (]) 22:46, 19 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
== ] reported by ] (Result: 48 hours) == | |||
Has been warned multiple times both by an admin and others to stop, but continues to add a paragraph without discussing it. <font color="blue">]</font> <sup>]</sup> 22:40, 11 November 2016 (UTC) | |||
'''Page:''' {{pagelinks|Conor Benn}} <br /> | |||
You continue to remove content that is impeccably sourced without providing a reason to justify why. Several of the earlier "reasons" given did not reflect the text which was actually added, and I made changes in response to criticisms whenever they were actually given. "Please discuss on the talk page" when there are 0 discussions on that talk page does not help me understand what you think is problematic about the paragraph. <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 22:45, 11 November 2016 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
'''User being reported:''' {{userlinks|GiggaHigga127}} | |||
'''Previous version reverted to:''' – only welterweight in the infobox | |||
*This is merely a case of "I don't like it." These editors have no grounds to remove the material other than the fact that it appears to challenge their world views. This is a notable aspect of the scope of the target article, impeccably sourced, and I daresay, is some of the most neutrally crafted prose I have ever seen. | |||
'''Diffs of the user's reverts:''' | |||
Feast your eyes: | |||
# – re-adding light middleweight and middleweight | |||
# – same | |||
# – same | |||
# – same | |||
# – same, now with PA | |||
'''Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning:''' | |||
"Trump's transition to power despite his loss of the popular vote by a "substantial margin"<ref>http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/11/opinion/clintons-substantial-popular-vote-win.html</ref> to Hillary Clinton has "sparked" massive protests nationwide, which have drawn significant international attention. <ref>https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/nov/09/anti-donald-trump-protests-new-york-chicago-san-francisco</ref><ref>http://www.usatoday.com/picture-gallery/news/nation/2016/11/09/anti-trump-protests-around-the-us/93573710/</ref><ref>http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/10/politics/election-results-reaction-streets/index.html</ref><ref>http://www.advocate.com/election/2016/11/10/anti-trump-protests-roil-world-photos</ref> The demonstrations against Trump's presidency have taken place in Portland, Boston, New York, Chicago, Minneapolis, Seattle, Los Angeles, San Francisco, Oakland, Baltimore, Dallas, Omaha, Kansas City, Nashville, Philadelphia, Denver, Atlanta, Storrs, Richmond, and many other metropolises nationwide, as well as several international cities, such as London, Manila, and Morroco. <ref>http://www.advocate.com/election/2016/11/10/anti-trump-protests-roil-world-photos?related=1</ref><ref>http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/11/us/oregon-protest-riot/</ref> <ref>http://www.wsj.com/articles/anti-trump-protests-turn-violent-in-oregon-1478885999</ref><ref>http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/11/11/trump-adviser-urges-obama-clinton-to-speak-out-on-protests.html</ref>Some of the protests have turned violent, and have been classified as a "riot" or have shut down interstate highways. <ref>http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/12/us/trump-protests-election-portland.html</ref><ref>http://kstp.com/news/donald-trump-protests-university-of-minnesota/4315089/</ref>Many of the protestors claim that the will of the people has been ignored, and that "Trump is not my president."<ref>http://www.stltoday.com/news/national/govt-and-politics/not-my-president-trump-denounced-in-protests-across-us/article_661fc1f7-fc25-55e5-9d1f-60e209eb285a.html</ref><ref>https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/11/10/not-my-president-thousand-protest-trump-in-rallies-across-the-u-s/</ref><ref>http://www.tennessean.com/story/news/education/2016/11/11/vanderbilt-students-protest-trump-shout-not-my-president/93652368/</ref> <ref>http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Society/2016/1111/Not-my-president-Anti-Trump-protests-continue</ref> <ref>http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2016/11/11/anti-trump-protesters-pepper-sprayed-demonstrations-erupt-across-us/93633154/</ref>. Some protestors have cited the numerous allegations against Trump of sexual assault, and his lewd remarks about women as the reason for their protest, calling Trump a "sexual predator." <ref>https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/11/11/violence-erupts-in-portland-riot-as-anti-trump-protests-continue-in-cities-across-the-nation/</ref><ref>http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/11/anti-trump-protests-turn-violent-161111090846256.html</ref><ref>http://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/harry-reid-trump-sexual-predator-231237</ref> Others protestors have alleged that Trump's post-transition promises to create deportation forces, ban Muslim travel, and mandate religious identification cards amount to "bigotry" or even "fascism."<ref>http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/10/us/trump-election-protest-berkeley-oakland.html</ref> <ref>http://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/harry-reid-trump-sexual-predator-231237</ref> <ref>http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/10/politics/election-results-reaction-streets/index.html</ref> Protests are planned to continue at least through Trump's inauguration, when a massive protest is planned in Washington, D.C. <ref>https://www.washingtonpost.com/video/politics/waves-of-protests-against-trump-press-on/2016/11/11/bd27f55a-a7e5-11e6-ba46-53db57f0e351_video.html</ref><ref>http://patch.com/district-columbia/washingtondc/massive-anti-trump-protest-planned-inauguration-day-dc</ref> Trump reacted to the nationwide protests by opining that the protesters are "professional protestors, incited by the media" and complained the mass protests against him are "Very unfair!", stoking fears that Trump would retaliate against protesters, post-transition. <ref>http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/10/politics/kellyanne-conway-protesters-donald-trump-2016-election/</ref><ref>http://www.usnews.com/news/national-news/articles/2016-11-11/protests-continue-for-second-night-as-donald-trump-sends-mixed-messages-on-twitter</ref>" | |||
'''Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:''' ] | |||
What exactly is problematic here? These editors have no answer other than "I don't like it!" | |||
'''Diff of ANEW notice posted to user's talk page:''' | |||
:*'''Result:''' Page semiprotected. The proposed material, even if well-sourced, doesn't belong in the article unless it is supported by consensus. ] (]) 23:11, 11 November 2016 (UTC) | |||
<u>'''Comments:'''</u> <br /> | |||
*Oh, what a crock of shit. I didn't realize Misplaced Pages was run by Totalitarian overlords. Literally, no reason was given to me why the material should be removed other than "We don't like it! It's very challenging to our world views! Make the painful thing go away!" Marvelous decision, kangaroo court judge. ] (]) 23:14, 11 November 2016 (UTC) | |||
User:GiggaHigga127 insists on adding the ] and ] divisions to Conor Benn's infobox. Our style guide at WikiProject Boxing, ], says to only include weight classes in which a boxer has ''notably'' competed, that being usually for regional/minor/world titles. In Benn's case, that division was ] for almost the entirety of his career, and he did indeed hold a regional title in that division. In 2023 he was given a lengthy ban from the sport, from which he recently returned in a pair of throwaway fights within the light middleweight limit, against non-notable opposition and with no titles at stake. Per the style guide, those throwaway fights are not important enough to warrant the inclusion of light middleweight in the infobox, at least until he begins competing there regularly. | |||
As far as middleweight goes, Benn has ''never competed anywhere close to that weight class''. He has a fight 'scheduled' to take place at middleweight, but until the bell rings to officially commence proceedings, ] and ] should apply, and again it should not be listed in the infobox until then. This same fight was 'scheduled' in 2023, only to be cancelled after Benn failed a drug test—something which happens in boxing all the time. In fact, at the Project we had ] regarding upcoming fights in record tables, so the same should apply in this instance. ] would also be a cop-out, because the whole point of MOS:BOXING was to ensure consistency across boxing articles. ] (]) 18:50, 18 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
PS: There is no one at the talk page, so how is this "consensus" supposed to emerge? One would have though that an abundance of reliable sources on a notable topic were sufficient. <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 23:16, 11 November 2016 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
:It continues: , this time with me being called a "melt". I can't imagine what that is, but all the better if it's an insult for obvious reasons. Also, no responses at user talk page. ] (]) 00:06, 19 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
{{reflist-talk}} | |||
::Predictably, now it's onto block evasion: . NOTHERE. ] (]) 15:41, 19 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
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:::Based on , it could be ] as well. ] (]) 21:18, 19 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::::Neither nor. I stand by the revision, but that's where any commonality ends. --] (]) 22:53, 19 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:::::Of course you stand by the revision. You show up less than 12 hours after Gigga gets blocked, and perform the exact same revert. Dodgy. ] (]) 19:17, 20 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
==] reported by ] (Result: ) == | == ] reported by ] (Result: Blocked 24h) == | ||
'''Page:''' {{pagelinks|Probability and statistics}} | |||
*'''User being reported:''' {{userlinks|Ditinili}} | |||
'''User being reported:''' {{userlinks|Logoshimpo}} | |||
<small>Original title was: User Ditinili 3RR gaming, edit warring, provocation - ] article </small> | |||
'''Previous version reverted to:''' | |||
I am not the supporter of generating an incident, but this by far! User Ditinili almost three months is continously encountering, provocating uninvited by chasing in a schizoid way also personal contributions all the time and in articles, talk pages, edtis regarding Hungary/Hungarian related matters. After a long observation, it is clear he has not a primary aim for nice collaboration, he generated more edit wars and conflicts also with other users and he continously does it in a very foxy and permanent way, despite of his aim to hinder his goals, everything is apparent time-by-time by his activity. Mainly people would consider he has a problematic comprehension - anyway it has been demonstrated surely more times - but with a totally illogic behavior and pushing he also wilfully does not want to understand some things and by performing more provocations and reverts, pretending the situation else as it is. | |||
'''Diffs of the user's reverts:''' | |||
In the correspondent article, he made three reverts <ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=J%C3%A1nos_Bihari&diff=748921144&oldid=748891098</ref>, <ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=J%C3%A1nos_Bihari&diff=748964209&oldid=748958567</ref>, <ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=J%C3%A1nos_Bihari&diff=749129388&oldid=748969707</ref> - the third outside the 24 hours, pre-planned as a gaming, thus it may fulfill the violation of 3RR - regarding he did not initiated a discussion on the talk page before the second revert i.e., so the bad aims are totally clear, moreover in the edit logs he is proving the continous activity that is mentioned above, about professional deterioration and confusion. | |||
Slow-motion edit-warring: original bold edit was , subsequent reversions are , , . | |||
I warned him, also wrote to the talk page now, roughly: | |||
'''Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:''' | |||
- My edit was a correction of a mistake, since the county of birth was mixed with a city (] was the comitatus of the Kingom of Hungary <-> "now ]" = a present-day city) | |||
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'''Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:''' | |||
- He tried to mix this with another issue, where he requested help for interpretation of something that is anyway should be clear with a drop of good faith (naming conventions for placenames regarding a consensus - treatment of non-existent administrative units), this is not ready yet, anyway it does not matter here | |||
# {{diff2|1270081668|20:46, 17 January 2025 (UTC)}} "/* WP:SELFREF */ Reply" | |||
<u>'''Comments:'''</u> | |||
- Despite the explanations and the indications and more disussions earlier, he is performing reverts and provocation although he knows very well what is the situation and using for reverts the same pretext that is invalid here. | |||
The last revert follows talk-page discussion in which two users (including me) have rejected their arguments and no one has agreed with them. Here was their addition to the talk-page before their most recent revert: . ] (]) 17:07, 19 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
This has to end once, an action should be taken, if no convincement has an effect of peaceful collaboration.(] (]) 21:23, 12 November 2016 (UTC)) | |||
:{{AN3|b|24 hours}} ] (]) 22:49, 19 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
{{reflist-talk}} | |||
: In my opinion, Kiengir should stop calling other users "provocateurs", "schizoid", "totally illogic", "anti-Hungarian", "foxy", to make assumptions about "their aims", etc, whenever they do not agree with him (diffs on demand). | |||
: There is a ] to prevent these conflicts. In my opinion, it was repeatedly violated. Thus, I asked another (neutral, non-involved) editor who worked hard to reach this consensus for some kind of mediation (] (]) 06:27, 13 November 2016 (UTC) | |||
== ] reported by ] (Result: Blocked) == | == ] reported by ] (Result: Blocked 36 hours, reporter blocked 24, and page protected for a week) == | ||
'''Page:''' {{pagelinks|Nachos}} | |||
;User being reported: {{userlinks|73.114.33.135}} | |||
'''User being reported:''' {{userlinks|Rauzoi}} | |||
;Previous version reverted to: | |||
'''Previous version reverted to:''' | |||
;Diffs of the user's reverts: | |||
# {{diff2|749194517|00:20, 13 November 2016 (UTC)}} "/* LGBT rights policy */" | |||
# {{diff2|749193482|00:12, 13 November 2016 (UTC)}} "/* LGBT rights policy */" | |||
# {{diff2|749193127|00:09, 13 November 2016 (UTC)}} "/* LGBT rights policy */" | |||
'''Diffs of the user's reverts:''' | |||
# {{diff2|1270462611|17:20, 19 January 2025 (UTC)}} "original version https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Nachos&diff=prev&oldid=1187016754 vandalized by Crasias" | |||
# {{diff2|749192692|00:05, 13 November 2016 (UTC)}} "General note: Not adhering to neutral point of view on ]. (])" | |||
# {{diff|oldid=1270457231|diff=1270459938|label=Consecutive edits made from 17:00, 19 January 2025 (UTC) to 17:04, 19 January 2025 (UTC)}} | |||
## {{diff2|1270459303|17:00, 19 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Undid revision ] by ] (])" | |||
## {{diff2|1270459938|17:04, 19 January 2025 (UTC)}} "" | |||
# {{diff2|1270456533|16:42, 19 January 2025 (UTC)}} "original version https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Nachos&diff=prev&oldid=1187016754" | |||
# {{diff|oldid=1270368949|diff=1270375910|label=Consecutive edits made from 06:41, 19 January 2025 (UTC) to 06:43, 19 January 2025 (UTC)}} | |||
## {{diff2|1270375677|06:41, 19 January 2025 (UTC)}} "original version https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Nachos&diff=prev&oldid=1187016754" | |||
## {{diff2|1270375910|06:43, 19 January 2025 (UTC)}} "" | |||
# {{diff|oldid=1270037609|diff=1270355298|label=Consecutive edits made from 04:00, 19 January 2025 (UTC) to 04:02, 19 January 2025 (UTC)}} | |||
## {{diff2|1270354944|04:00, 19 January 2025 (UTC)}} "" | |||
## {{diff2|1270355115|04:01, 19 January 2025 (UTC)}} "" | |||
## {{diff2|1270355298|04:02, 19 January 2025 (UTC)}} "/* Variations */" | |||
'''Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:''' | |||
# {{diff2|1270460344|17:06, 19 January 2025 (UTC)}} "" | |||
'''Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:''' | |||
;<u>Comments:</u> | |||
<u>'''Comments:'''</u> | |||
Disruptive editing, POV, controversial; has violated the discretionary sanctions for the page (limited to one revert). -- <span style="text-shadow: 4px 4px 15px #0099FF, -4px -4px 15px #99FF00;">]</span> ● <span style="text-shadow: 4px 4px 15px #FF9900, -4px -4px 15px #FF0099;">] ]</span> 00:25, 13 November 2016 (UTC) | |||
*{{AN3|b}} – 48 hours. 1RR violation and tendentious editing ( referring to LGBT topics). ] (]) 01:12, 13 November 2016 (UTC) | |||
Frequently removing and replacing sourced content that identifies Nachos as "Tex-Mex" rather than "Mexican" ] (]) 17:32, 19 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
== ] reported by ] (Result: Protected) == | |||
:{{AN3|bb}} Rauzoi for 36 hours and Crasias for 24 (one less revert over the limit). ] does not cover this. Furthermore ... | |||
:{{AN3|p}} Extended-confirmed for a week since, as both editors are autoconfirmed only, they will not be able to resume hostilities once the blocks expire. The talk page hasn't been used in months. ] (]) 23:04, 19 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
== ] reported by ] (Result: Blocked one week) == | |||
'''Page:''' {{pagelinks|Peter A. Allard School of Law}} <br /> | |||
'''User being reported:''' {{userlinks| CanadaRed}} | |||
'''Page:''' {{pagelinks|Sex differences in intelligence}} <br /> | |||
'''User being reported:''' {{userlinks|BoneCrushingDog}} | |||
'''Previous version reverted to:''' | |||
'''Diffs of the user's reverts:''' | |||
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'''Diff of ANEW notice posted to user's talk page:''' | |||
<u>'''Comments:'''</u> Note that these edits fall squarely under ], and the last (6th) revert was done ''after'' they were . ] (]) 23:23, 19 January 2025 (UTC)<br /> | |||
*{{AN3|b|one week}}. ] (]) 00:33, 20 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
== ] reported by ] (Result: Page already semi-protected) == | |||
Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: | |||
'''Page:''' {{pagelinks|Exclusive economic zone}} | |||
'''User being reported:''' {{userlinks|177.84.58.25}} | |||
Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: ] | |||
'''Previous version reverted to:''' | |||
<u>Comments:</u> <br /> | |||
'''Diffs of the user's reverts:''' | |||
Related article on the school's building went through ] back in July, during which this article was cleaned up as well; it had been a prime example of ]. Was reviewed by several people at that time. CanadaRed is an inexperienced editor and per their contribs they are a SPA for Vancouver where this school is located. They have incorrectly characterized why content was removed and have simply restored en masse and are edit warring to keep it that way, and on Talk are demanding that I re-justify the cleanup. The justifications are in the edit notes, and as I wrote there, I would be happy to discuss any individual edit. Sorry to bring this here, but this is a case of unreasoning advocacy by an inexperienced SPA user. ] (]) 00:52, 13 November 2016 (UTC) | |||
# {{diff|oldid=1270539434|diff=1270541014|label=Consecutive edits made from 01:13, 20 January 2025 (UTC) to 01:19, 20 January 2025 (UTC)}} | |||
:: I may not be as experienced as you, but I have made my share of contributions to the Peter Allard Law page. Also, I'm willing to make compromises and try to resolve the issue. User Jytdog is unwilling to cooperate and constantly makes wholesale and unjustified deletions of content. The only other person to make comments on the talk page disagreed with him. I would like a third party or moderator to weigh in on the issue. I am willing to make compromises and fix things that need to be fixed, but disagree with wholesale deletions or reversions of sections. I would report user Jytdog if I knew how. Any help in resolving this matter would be greatly appreciated.] (]) 01:03, 13 November 2016 (UTC) | |||
## {{diff2|1270540192|01:13, 20 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Eu não sou essa pessoa que você está a citar eu comecei a alterar essa página essa e a minhas primeiras vezes , eu estou alteração está página porque eu gosto de ver a área da ZEE de cada país um abaixo do outro ." | |||
:::::Your edit history is 100% advocacy. Your behavior at this article is that of an advocate, not a Wikipedian. None of that is OK. The appropriate outcome here is a block for you, so that you will stop abusing WP to promote things in Vancouver and start actually discussing things instead of forcing your advocacy into WP. Your calling my edits "wholesale removal" misrepresents the history visible in the article - i went through things line by line, ref by ref. ] (]) 01:27, 13 November 2016 (UTC) | |||
## {{diff2|1270540659|01:17, 20 January 2025 (UTC)}} "I started changing this page today I'm just making changes to this page because I like to see the Zee area of each country in the world, please don't make changes" | |||
:::: My account is not a single purpose account. I've mostly made edits to Canadian topics because it is what I'm familiar with. Please refrain from making attacks on my account. What should be discussed is the value of the sections that you deleted, and whether they are appropriate or not. ] (]) 01:32, 13 November 2016 (UTC) | |||
## {{diff2|1270541014|01:19, 20 January 2025 (UTC)}} "I started changing this page today I'm just making changes to this page because I like to see the Zee area of each country in the world, please don't make changes" | |||
* Block both. I'm reluctant to call for this in CanadaRed's case as they do seem to have been making an effort to improve the article. However this is a bunch of edit warring and we do have a bright line against such. | |||
# {{diff2|1270537566|00:56, 20 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Eu não vou mais fazer alteração se deixar o Rankings by area porque eu gosto de Rankings by area" | |||
: In Jytdog's case though, this is an experienced editor who knows ''absolutely'' better than this (and oh, does he like to hold that "experience" over any other editors). The ] behaviour when CanadaRed started some discussion on the talk: page is classic Jytdog behaviour: an editor far more interested in pushing their own viewpoint right over anyone else and completely ignoring any attempt to work to actually improve something. ] (]) 01:45, 13 November 2016 (UTC) | |||
# {{diff2|1270536155|00:46, 20 January 2025 (UTC)}} "ZEE com alteração perfeita" | |||
:::and the peanut gallery arrives. Andy calling edit warring restoration of promotional content an "improvement" is par for the course in their history of chiming in with misrepresentations like this . I have warned them that the next time they do it will seek and likely get a 1-way interaction ban. If you look at the restored edits that are badly sourced/unsourced and promotional. ] (]) 01:55, 13 November 2016 (UTC) | |||
# {{diff2|1270532750|00:21, 20 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Alterei o tamanho da zona exclusiva econômica do brasil porque a ZEE aumentou em 2024" | |||
:::: Jytdog clearly ] that 4RR applies to him too. He is wrong in this. ] (]) 01:58, 13 November 2016 (UTC) | |||
# {{diff2|1270527449|23:49, 19 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Antes essa página sofreu alteração incorreta, com eu fiz uma alteração mais correta ." | |||
::::: This: ] is also concerning, but unsurprising. An interest in one particular field is not the same thing as a bias. It is disappointingly unsurprisingly to see Jytdog, ''yet again'' using every tactic available to attack an editor with whom they have the slightest disagreement (ANI passim). Will you be using SPI next? That's one of your favourites. ] (]) 02:05, 13 November 2016 (UTC) | |||
::Frankly behavior like this, https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=User_talk:Andy_Dingley&oldid=749205903, is grounds it self for a long ban. This has crossed into harassment, Jytdog's "warning" is nothing more than the harassment of a critic. This kind of behavior isn't welcome here. ] (]) 01:58, 13 November 2016 (UTC) | |||
::: Why, hello again ]. Short time, no see. ] (]) 02:00, 13 November 2016 (UTC) | |||
:::: God this place is ugly sometimes. We start with edit warring in of promotional content by a SPA advocate, then the stalker peanut gallery arrives, and now a peanut gallery of the peanut gallery. Done here. ] (]) 02:07, 13 November 2016 (UTC) | |||
'''Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:''' | |||
* again, what happened here is that the article got worked over 4 months ago and settled then. CanadianRed shows up now, and undoes all that work and demands to start over as though all that work never happened, and then edit wars to retain the undoing. This is not OK behavior. ] (]) 02:31, 13 November 2016 (UTC) | |||
# {{diff2|1270537849|00:58, 20 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Warning: Three-revert rule." | |||
:: From my understanding, what others agreed to do months ago was merge the University of British Columbia Faculty of Law article with Peter A. Allard School of Law (based on the law school's name change). The deletion of sections seems to have been unilaterally done by ], and it seems that another user, ], disagreed with the deletion.(See: https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Talk:Peter_A._Allard_School_of_Law&diff=725295916&oldid=725269742). <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 03:18, 13 November 2016 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> The above is mine. Forgot to sign. ] (]) 03:21, 13 November 2016 (UTC) | |||
'''Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:''' | |||
:What I'm seeing with CanadaRed is part of the reason why it's a catch-22 to try to deal with editors intent on edit warring in content. Either you try to work with them (especially as a new editor) and they keep trying to push the content in while hoping your reverting finally gets them to stop and go to the talk page. Escalate it here and you're apt to deal with more drama. That seems to be especially the case for editors like Jytdog who end up working with a lot of troublesome editors (and gaining a bunch of editors following them around causing more drama). It seems pretty silly to still be seeing the drama following Jytdog that's become more of a hounding issue, but this board isn't really suited for dealing with that. | |||
:That being said, Jytdog also should know better to not go to 4RR (better to rely on other editors not involved to see a notice like this and clean up in obvious cases like this). I'm pretty confounded as to what they were thinking with their fourth revert as I could somewhat tolerate someone going up to 3RR in the face of CanadaRed's behavior. CanadaRed however seems to be the main problem here basically ignoring that they needed to stop reverting and gain ] after they were reverted. Protecting the page at the last clean version and forcing CanadaRed to gain consensus for their edits seems to be the obvious course of action for breaking the logjam. ] (]) 03:14, 13 November 2016 (UTC) | |||
We discover this week that random numbers were changed a while ago. We changed them back and sort of started a discussion ] | |||
:: I'm willing to agree to a form of dispute resolution, whether it's through having other editors weigh in and come to a consensus, or some other method. As mentioned earlier, I'm not the only user that disagreed with Jytdog's deletions of whole sections of the page. I have tried to take out language that might have come across as promotional in order to compromise with Jytdog. Again, I am willing to work with him to fix the page. There needs to be an element of compromise and good faith edits here. Furthermore, attacks such as: "you're inexperienced so you're automatically wrong" are hardly fair. I've made contributions here for a number of years, and although I may not be as much of a regular or daily editor as some other users, I've always tried to do my part to make[REDACTED] better in good faith. I'm just asking for third party, unbiased users to to weigh in with their opinions. ] (]) 03:42, 13 November 2016 (UTC) | |||
<u>'''Comments:'''</u> | |||
Kingofaces43, just reverted all the changes that I had made to the article. Including the changing of the wording that I made to make it less promotional and the adding of sources etc. Not sure if he is working in conjunction with Jytdog, or in support of him. If he is a disinterested third party, then why not weigh in on the articles talk page as opposed to jumping to a wholesale revert as Jytdog had done. This is quite unfair. ] (]) 03:58, 13 November 2016 (UTC) | |||
::Hey, CanadaRed. Your best bet now is to discuss any changes you want to make. I know its frustrating to add a lot of content and then have it reverted but this is the best option open when a bold edit was made as this was. Just take your time as you add and allow for discussion. Best wishes.(] (]) 04:04, 13 November 2016 (UTC)) | |||
:{{AN3|p}} – 5 days. Please use the talk page to agree on where to go from here. The stuff Jytdog was removing does look promotional by our usual definition. But Jytdog need not assume the sole burden of removing promotional content, and when he breaks 3RR that is sooner or later going to be enforced. ] is risking a block for disruptive editing if he continues to restore material that has been removed after lengthy talk page discussion. Since this article has caused so much trouble in the past people need to step carefully. ] (]) 04:08, 13 November 2016 (UTC) | |||
We are not sure what they are doing...... Think they're mistaken continental shelf for EEZ.<span style="display:inline-flex;rotate:-15deg;color:darkblue">''']'''</span><span style="display:inline-flex;rotate:15deg;color:darkblue">]</span> 01:27, 20 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
== ] reported by ] (Result: Duplicate) == | |||
*{{AN3|p}} (already semi-protected) ] (]) 06:38, 20 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
== ] reported by ] (Result: Already blocked) == | |||
'''Page:''' {{pagelinks|Peter A. Allard School of Law}} <br /> | |||
'''User being reported:''' {{userlinks| Jytdog}} | |||
'''Page:''' {{pagelinks|Harti}} | |||
'''User being reported:''' {{userlinks|2A01:4B00:D10A:6700:C8CB:A681:5BFA:C14D}} | |||
Previous version reverted to: |
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'''Diffs of the user's reverts:''' | |||
# {{diff2|1270551103|02:28, 20 January 2025 (UTC)}} "/* Enterprisers */" | |||
# {{diff2|1270550937|02:27, 20 January 2025 (UTC)}} "/* Royalty */" | |||
# {{diff2|1270550061|02:21, 20 January 2025 (UTC)}} "/* Enterprisers */" | |||
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## {{diff2|1270549319|02:16, 20 January 2025 (UTC)}} "/* Royalty */" | |||
## {{diff2|1270549881|02:19, 20 January 2025 (UTC)}} "/* Politicians */" | |||
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# {{diff2|1270550935|02:27, 20 January 2025 (UTC)}} "/* Edit Warring */ new section" | |||
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<u>'''Comments:'''</u> | ||
Instead of trying to constructively discuss and make appropriate revisions to the page, this user made a wholesale reversion. He or she is unwilling to compromise, unwilling to discuss the issue, and went straight to making attacks: claiming that my account is a single purpose account and that I'm attempting to post promotional material. All of this is patently incorrect. The material that the user deleted was contributed by many different users (not just me) over a long period of time. Another user on the talk page disagreed with the user's deletions. No other user agreed with the deletions. Instead of discussing the changes that were made, or making individual edits to fix whatever he believed the problem is, the user jumped straight to reverting the page. These deletions were not made in good faith as no attempt was made to discuss the sections or what he disagreed with. He went straight to reverting material and making accusations. He made 4 reverts. Instead of trying to resolve the problem, or putting the disagreement to dispute resolution in good faith, he went straight to reporting it here. For the record, I am willing to compromise, and work with the user in order to make page meet the[REDACTED] standards. I believe much of the information can and should stay. The page is by no means perfect, but with the appropriate modifications in can be greatly improved. The appropriate action would be to make compromises and try to resolve the issue in a mutually agreeable way as opposed to wholesale deletions, reverts, and attacks on other users. ] (]) 02:03, 13 November 2016 (UTC) | |||
:oy. ] (]) 02:06, 13 November 2016 (UTC) | |||
and again , and | |||
Also, note that I am not familiar with the process of reporting, so if I've made any mistake please feel free to make corrections. I have myself been reported by this user (see above).] (]) 02:07, 13 November 2016 (UTC) | |||
*{{AN3|ab}} (/64 blocked for 1 week by {{u|Daniel Case}}) ] (]) 06:41, 20 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
== ] reported by ] (Result: Blocked 72 hours) == | |||
* Close as duplicate of above. Any novel issue raised in this listing would be better handled in one place. ] (]) 02:07, 13 November 2016 (UTC) | |||
'''Page:''' {{pagelinks|Tübingen School}} | |||
Ok how can I close it. But I would like to post my above comment at least. ] (]) 02:08, 13 November 2016 (UTC) | |||
::: Oh, just leave it. An admin will probably tag it as merged, or move the comment. My point is that no ''action'' is needed on this one. Your comment should still stay visible and be read. ] (]) 02:16, 13 November 2016 (UTC) | |||
:::: Ok, I understand. Thank you for the clarification. ] (]) 02:22, 13 November 2016 (UTC) | |||
*'''Result:''' Closing as a duplicate report of the same dispute as above. ] (]) 04:03, 13 November 2016 (UTC) | |||
'''User being reported:''' {{userlinks|Xpander1}} | |||
== ] reported by ] (Result: Indef) == | |||
'''Previous version reverted to:''' | |||
;Page: {{pagelinks|Deniz Aytekin}} | |||
;User being reported: {{userlinks|Shqipbot}} | |||
'''Diffs of the user's reverts:''' | |||
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# {{diff2|1270585353|07:15, 20 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Restored revision 974048061 by ] (]): Self-reverting as per ]" | |||
# {{diff2|1270579742|06:20, 20 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Restored revision 1270517034 by ] (]): Please see the redirect page for adding new edits" | |||
# {{diff2|1270517034|22:40, 19 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Restored revision 1270516481 by ] (]): Please avoid making an edit war, I asked you nicely" | |||
# {{diff2|1270516481|22:37, 19 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Undid revision ] by ] (])" | |||
# {{diff2|1270515748|22:32, 19 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Restored revision 1270489731 by ] (]): Please add the new sources to ] Best." | |||
# {{diff|oldid=1270482917|diff=1270489731|label=Consecutive edits made from 19:26, 19 January 2025 (UTC) to 19:58, 19 January 2025 (UTC)}} | |||
## {{diff2|1270484281|19:26, 19 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Undid revision ] by ] (]) other editors simply continued my original work, which I respect" | |||
## {{diff2|1270489731|19:58, 19 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Redirecting page the newly created page" | |||
# {{diff2|1270482597|19:17, 19 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Restored revision 974048061 by ] (]): Reverting my own edit to contest page creation attribution" | |||
# {{diff2|1270267829|19:07, 18 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Undid revision ] by ] (])" | |||
'''Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:''' | |||
# {{diff2| |
# {{diff2|1270589185|07:46, 20 January 2025 (UTC)}} "/* January 2025 */ new section" | ||
# {{diff2|749214834|03:11, 13 November 2016 (UTC)}} "Hi" | |||
# {{diff2|749214649|03:09, 13 November 2016 (UTC)}} "Jo" | |||
# {{diff2|749214112|03:05, 13 November 2016 (UTC)}} "Haha" | |||
'''Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:''' | |||
# {{diff2| |
# {{diff2|1270588908|07:44, 20 January 2025 (UTC)}} "/* Page creator attribution */ Reply" | ||
# {{diff2|1270341854|02:27, 19 January 2025 (UTC) on Misplaced Pages:Requested moves/Technical requests}} "/* Uncontroversial technical requests */ Decline, this one is more of a histmerge request which would also be declined from ] - I'm happy to explain further on a talk page" | |||
<u>'''Comments:'''</u> | |||
;Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: | |||
Extremely aggressive edit warring. Xpander1 had expanded a redirect to a page with no issue but decided it would be better to just create a page, hence a discussion at ]. Editor decided to "redact contribution in protest", initially blanking then resorting to redirecting. ] would assist in reverting these changes with Xpander1 reacting negatively, violating 3RR to get it erased. Editor had created redirects such as ] and ], with ] being where he did a cut-and-paste move from original article. Has no intention to resolve dispute any time soon. <span style="font-family: Georgia; background-color: coral; padding: 2px 3px 1px 3px;">] ]</span> 08:26, 20 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:All I did was self-reverting, the article had no significant history before my contribution. What you are describing as "copy-pasting", is me putting my own creation in a new page. As I have explained in many places, in the ], and elsewhere. My rationale is very simple, Misplaced Pages must distinguish between '''valid-article-creators''' and '''redirect-page-creators'''. I currently count as the latter. Which don't think is fair. ] (]) 08:49, 20 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
;<u>Comments:</u> | |||
::As for now, the page is currently being attributed to User:Wetman on ] and on the . ] (]) 09:12, 20 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
The Teahouse discussion can be found (for now) at ]. Please see also ] and ]. ] (]) 09:09, 20 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:{{AN3|b|72 hours}} , I am mystified—no, make it ''stunned''—that Xpander thinks this edit-warring is justified. In what sense are they not being attributed as the page creator sufficiently for their ego? Do they mean that the ''page creation log'' isn't saying that they are? Uh, that's something the ''software'' does, that by design no one has control over. {{u|Wetman}} is going to get credit for creating the ''page'', yes, as the empty redirect it was apparently quite happy to have been for 15 years. As noted, no editor familiar with how our processes work would doubt that Xpander, in practical terms, created the ''article'' by translating the dewiki article, regardless of what the logs say.<p>Xpander's repeated reversion to the redirect is, frankly, childish behavior that smacks of ]. I strongly remind them ].<p>I also reject their argument that ] shields them as they were merely always "reverting their own edit". Technically that might be arguable, but it is ''inarguable'' that, especially given their statement that ], they did so in a manner calculated to cause ] and interfere with the work of others. To allow this to pass on that basis would be opening up a whole new way to ]. ] (]) 20:17, 20 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::'''Addendum''': I also commend ] to {{u|Xpander1}}'s attention. ] (]) 22:23, 20 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
== ] reported by ] (Result: Blocked 31 hours) == | |||
'''Page:''' {{pagelinks|Oriel High School}} | |||
'''User being reported:''' {{userlinks|92.238.20.255}} | |||
'''Previous version reverted to:''' | |||
'''Diffs of the user's reverts:''' | |||
# {{diff2|1270686162|19:20, 20 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Updated content" | |||
# {{diff2|1270685824|19:18, 20 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Updated content" | |||
# {{diff2|1270685483|19:16, 20 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Deleted content" | |||
# {{diff2|1270684934|19:12, 20 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Deleted content" | |||
# {{diff2|1270683674|19:04, 20 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Deleted content" | |||
'''Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:''' | |||
<u>'''Comments''': This IP is trying to censor information in that article --] (]) 19:26, 20 January 2025 (UTC)</u> | |||
*{{AN3|b|31 hours}} ] (]) 19:36, 20 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
*:I undid that block and restored it because simply removing the block isn't really an option in response to actually disruptive editing, but the IP editor's behavior wasn't the main issue in this edit war. I'll send warnings around to people who should know better. ] (]) 19:43, 20 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
== ] reported by ] (Result: Stale) == | |||
'''Page:''' ] <br /> | |||
'''User being reported:''' {{userlinks|Kelvintjy}} | |||
'''Previous version reverted to:''' https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Political_dissidence_in_the_Empire_of_Japan&oldid=1217491179 | |||
'''Diffs of the user's reverts:''' | |||
# https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Political_dissidence_in_the_Empire_of_Japan&oldid=1227039793 | |||
# https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Political_dissidence_in_the_Empire_of_Japan&oldid=1229865081 | |||
# https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Political_dissidence_in_the_Empire_of_Japan&oldid=1230019964 | |||
# https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Political_dissidence_in_the_Empire_of_Japan&oldid=1230184562 | |||
'''Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: See July 24th 2024 ''' https://en.wikipedia.org/User_talk:Kelvintjy | |||
'''Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:''' See "Biased" https://en.wikipedia.org/Talk:Political_dissidence_in_the_Empire_of_Japan | |||
'''Diff of ANEW notice posted to user's talk page:''' https://en.wikipedia.org/User_talk:Kelvintjy | |||
<u>'''Comments:'''</u> <br /> | |||
Hello | |||
the user Kelvintjy has been engaged in another war last summer and was banned from the ] page. He's been pursuing an edit war on the ] page too without daring give explanations on the talk page though he was invited to do it many times. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 19:58, 20 January 2025 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
*{{AN3|s}} ] (]) 20:03, 20 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
*:@] you blocked this user from the page ] in Aug. 2024 for the same reasons. ] (]) 12:54, 21 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
*:You also block Raoul but later unblocked him after he made his appeal. ] (]) 00:37, 22 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
I don't understand the user always keep targeting me. I am more of a silence contributor. I had seen how the complainant had argue with other contributor in other talk page and after a while the complainant stay silent and not touching certain topic and instead keep making edit on articles related to ] or ]. Now, he is making a lot of edit on ]. ] (]) 05:11, 21 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
== ] reported by ] (Result: 1RR imposed on article) == | |||
'''Page:''' {{pagelinks|Elon Musk}} | |||
'''User being reported:''' {{userlinks|Ergzay}} | |||
'''Previous version reverted to:''' | |||
'''Diffs of the user's reverts:''' | |||
# {{diff2|1270885082|18:31, 21 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Undid revision ] by ] (]) Reverting for user specifying basically ] as their reasoning" | |||
# {{diff2|1270881666|18:12, 21 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Undid revision ] by ] (]) I believe you have reverted this edit in error so I am adding it back. Rando tweet from a random organization? The Anti-defamation league is cited elsewhere in this article and this tweet was in the article previously. I simply copy pasted it from a previous edit. ADL is a trusted source in the perennial source list ]" | |||
# {{diff2|1270878417|17:52, 21 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Undid revision ] by ] (]) Removing misinformation" | |||
# {{diff2|1270875037|17:30, 21 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Undid revision ] by ] (]) Discussion ongoing and it's incorrect as well" | |||
# {{diff2|1270724963|23:07, 20 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Revert, this is not the purpose of the short description" | |||
# {{diff2|1270718517|22:28, 20 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Undid revision ] by ] (]) Elon is not a multinational" | |||
'''Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:''' | |||
# {{diff2|1270879182|17:57, 21 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Warning: Three-revert rule on ]." {{small|(edit: corrected diff)}} | |||
'''Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:''' | |||
# {{diff2|1270885380|18:32, 21 January 2025 (UTC)}} "stop edit warring now or it all goes to ANI" {{small|(edit: added diff, fix date)}} | |||
<u>'''Comments:'''</u> | |||
Breach of ] {{small|(added comment after 18:49, 21 January 2025 (UTC) comment added below)}}. ] (]) 18:52, 21 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
] seems to be making a mistake here as several of those edits were of different content. You can't just list every single revert and call it edit warring. And the brief edit warring that did happen stopped as I realized I was reverting the wrong thing. https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Talk:Elon_Musk&diff=prev&oldid=1270879523 ] (]) 18:49, 21 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:Read the bright read box at ] (. ] (]) 18:54, 21 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::@] So let me get this straight, you're saying making unrelated reverts of unrelated content in a 24 hour period hits 3RR? You sure you got that right? As people violate that one all the darn time. Never bothered to report people as it's completely innocent. If you're heavily involved on a page and reverting stuff you'll hit that quick and fast for a rapidly updated page. ] (]) 18:59, 21 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:::]: {{tq|An editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page—whether involving the same or different material—within a 24-hour period.}} – ] (]) 19:01, 21 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::::Well TIL on that one as that's the first time I've ever heard of that use case and I've been on this site for 15+ years. 3RR in every use I've ever seen it is about back and forth reverting of the _same content_ within a short period of time. It's a severe rule break where people are clearly edit warring the same content back and forth. Reverting unrelated content on the page (edits that are often clearly vandalism-like edits, like the first two listed) would never violate 3RR in my experience. ] (]) 19:04, 21 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::::I'd honestly love an explanation on that rule as I can't figure out why it makes sense. You don't want to limit people's ability to fix vandalism on a fast moving page. ] (]) 19:08, 21 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:::::]: {{tq|There are certain exemptions to the three-revert rule, such as reverting vandalism or clear violations of the policy on biographies of living persons}}. – ] (]) 19:11, 21 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::::::No I mean even in the wider sense. Like why does it make sense to limit the ability to revert unrelated content on the same page? I can't figure out why that would make sense. The 3RR page doesn't explain that. ] (]) 19:13, 21 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:::::Vandalism is an exemption. But vandalism has a narrow definition. ] (]) 19:12, 21 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:Should be added, that I was in the process of reverting my own edit after the above linked comment, but someone reverted it before I could get to it. | |||
:The 18:12 edit was me undoing what was presumed to be a mistaken change by EF5 that I explained in my edit comment as they seemed to think that "some random twitter account" was being used as a source. That revert was not reverted. The 18:31 edit was a revert of an "i don't like it" edit that someone else made, it was not a revert of a revert of my own change. ] (]) 19:17, 21 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::Frankly, I thought your characterization of IDONTLIKEIT in your edit summary was improper and was thinking of reverting you, but didn't want to be a part of what I thought was your edit war. ] (]) 19:26, 21 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:::We can agree to disagree, but the reasons I called it IDONTLIKEIT was because the person who was reverted described the ADL, who is on the perennial sources list as being reliable, in their first edit description with the wording followed by after another editor restored the content with a different source, which is the edit I reverted. ] (]) 19:34, 21 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::::Looks like you have seven reverts in two days in a CTOP. I've even seen admins ask someone else to revert instead of violating a revert rule themselves. ] (]) 19:48, 21 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:::::What is a CTOP? ] (]) 19:58, 21 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::::::A CTOP is a ]. ] (]) 19:59, 21 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:In Ergzay's defense some of these reverts do seem to be covered under BLP, but many do not and I am concerned about the battleground attitude that Ergzay is taking. The edit summaries "Discussion ongoing and it's incorrect as well" and "Removing misinformation" also seems to be getting into righting great wrongs territory as the coverage happened whether you agree with the analysis or not. ] (]) 20:05, 21 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::@] Thanks but at this point things are too heated and people are so confident Musk is some kind of Nazi now nothing I say is gonna change anything. It's not worth the mental exhaustion I spent over the last few hours. So I probably won't be touching the page or talk page again for several days at least unless I get pinged. The truth will come out eventually, just like the last several tempest in a teapots on the Elon Musk page that eventually got corrected. Misplaced Pages is gonna be Misplaced Pages. ] (]) 21:48, 21 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:::{{tq|Misplaced Pages is gonna be Misplaced Pages.}} If your argument is that Misplaced Pages is wrong about things and you have to come in periodically to fix it; that’s not an argument that works very well on an administrative noticeboard -- and certainly not a good argument here at AN3. ] (]) 22:27, 21 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:::I wouldn't worry all too much about it, 1rr for the article will slow things down and is a positive outcome all things considered. ] (]) 03:26, 22 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
: Based on the comment in response to the notification for this discussion, {{tq|"I've been brought to ANI many times in the past. Never been punished for it"}}, I was quite surprised to see that the editor didn't acquire an understanding of 3RR when in 2020. That's sometime ago granted, but additionally a lack of awareness of CTOP, when there is an edit notice at Musk's page regarding BLP policy, is highly suggestive of ]. This in addition to the 3RR warning that was ignored, followed by continuing to revert other editors, and eventually arguing that it must be because I am wrong. If there is an essay based on "Everyone else must be wrong because I'm always right" I'd very much like to read it. As for this report, I primarily wanted to nip the edit war in the bud which appears to have worked for now, given the talk page warning failed to achieve anything. I otherwise remain concerned about the general ] based indicators; disruptive editing, battleground attitude, and lack of willingness to collaborate with other editors in a civil manner. ] (]) 23:55, 21 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:: I have decided, under CTOPS and mindful of the current situation regarding the article subject, a situation that I think we can agree is unlikely to change anytime soon and is just going to attract more contentious editing, that the best resolution here, given that ''some'' of Ergzay's reverts are concededly justified on BLP grounds and that he genuinely seems ignorant of the provision in 3RR that covers ''all'' edits (a provision that, since he still wants to know, is in response to certain battleground editors in the past who would keep reverting different material within the same 24 hours so as to comply with the ''letter'', but not the ''spirit'', of 3RR (In other words, another case of ])) is to put the article under 1RR. It will be duly logged at CTOPS. ] (]) 00:02, 22 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:::We are likely to see Ergzay at ANI at some point. But as I was thinking of asking for 1RR early today; I'm fine with that decision. ] (]) 00:25, 22 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:::Good decision. I otherwise think a final warning for edit warring is appropriate, given the 3RR violation even excluding BLPREMOVE reverts (first 4 diffs to be specific). There's nothing else to drag out here given Ergzay intends to take a step back from the Musk article, and per above, there is always the ANI route for any future incidents. ] (]) 00:40, 22 January 2025 (UTC) |
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User:Xuangzadoo reported by User:Ratnahastin (Result: Page protected indef)
Page: List of religious slurs (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: Xuangzadoo (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Previous version reverted to:
Diffs of the user's reverts:
- 19:29, 17 January 2025 (UTC) "Undid revision 1270059834 by 25 Cents FC (rv, none of that contradicts my edits. There are no sources which call "pajeet" a religious slur directed at Hindus. It's only a religious slur for sikhs. There are no sources which call Chuhras Christians or Hindus, they are muslims. There are no sources which mention "cow piss drinker" originating in the US, it's from South Asia. None of my edits contradict what the talk page says.)"
- 16:57, 17 January 2025 (UTC) "Undid revision 1270040967 by Ratnahastin (The articles specifically mention "pajeet" as a religious slur directed at sikhs and/or as a racial slur directed at other south asians. There is no mention of "pajeet" being directed as a religious slur at Hindus.)"
- 16:44, 17 January 2025 (UTC) "/* Hindus */ not a religious slur targeted at Hindus, removed"
- 01:28 15 January 2025 "The two sources added for "Pajeet" specifically mention that it's directed at Sikhs or at south asians racially, not at Hindus religiously, removed. "Sanghi" does not have a separate mention for Kashmir in any of its sources, removed. Added disambiguating link to Bengali Hindus. Corrected origin of "cow-piss drinker" to the correct country of origin as mentioned in the source. Added further information for "Dothead"."
- 11:55, 14 January 2025 11:55 "Undid revision 1269326532 by Sumanuil"
Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:
- 16:58, 17 January 2025 (UTC) "Warning: Edit warring on List of religious slurs."
Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:
- 16:52, 17 January 2025 (UTC) "/* 'Anti-Christian slurs' */ cmt"
- 17:18, 17 January 2025 (UTC) "/* Kanglu */ add"
Comments:
All these reverts yet not a single response at the talkpage. - Ratnahastin (talk) 01:42, 18 January 2025 (UTC)
- I am replying here as I'm not sure what you want from me.
- Every edit I made is fairly accurate and doesn't contradict or vandalize any of wikipedia's rules.
- Xuangzadoo (talk) 07:29, 18 January 2025 (UTC)
- You are still edit warring without posting at the talkpage. - Ratnahastin (talk) 16:07, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
- More reverts , can someone do something? - Ratnahastin (talk) 01:06, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
- Page protected I also note the user has been alerted to CTOPS, which I protected the page under, so there will be no room for argument if this behavior continues. Daniel Case (talk) 23:43, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
User:Noorullah21 reported by User:HerakliosJulianus (Result: No violation)
Page: Battle of Jamrud (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: Noorullah21 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Previous version reverted to:
Diffs of the user's reverts:
- 07:17, 18 January 2025 (UTC) "Restored revision 1270112351 by Noorullah21 (talk): No it hasn't, they haven't even given their conclusion, and you again edited the page to revert it.."
- 00:05, 18 January 2025 (UTC) "Restored revision 1270108346 by Noorullah21 (talk): No he doesn't, please take this to the talk page now to be more clear."
- 23:36, 17 January 2025 (UTC) "Restored revision 1270099439 by Noorullah21: "where they too were saved by the arrival of substantial reinforcements.
Akbar Khan broke off the engagement and returned to Jalalabad, leaving the Sikhs in control of Jamrud, but when he returned to Kabul he claimed the victory and was given a hero’s welcome. For decades after, this pyrrhic victory was celebrated annually in the Afghan capital.39" -Lee, (calls it a phyrric Afghan victory), and Hussain isn't on google scholars."
Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:
- 23:56, 17 January 2025 (UTC) "/* January 2025 */ new section"
- 00:10, 18 January 2025 (UTC) "Warning: Removal of content, blanking on Battle of Jamrud."
- 12:01, 18 January 2025 (UTC) "Final warning: Removal of content, blanking on Battle of Jamrud."
Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:
- 10:35, 17 January 2025 (UTC) "/* Aftermath section */ new section"
- 00:28, 18 January 2025 (UTC) "/* Aftermath section */ Reply"
- 00:37, 18 January 2025 (UTC) "/* Aftermath section */ Reply"
- 01:15, 18 January 2025 (UTC) "/* Aftermath section */ Reply"
- 01:27, 18 January 2025 (UTC) "/* Aftermath section */ Reply"
- 01:53, 18 January 2025 (UTC) "/* Aftermath section */ Reply"
- 02:01, 18 January 2025 (UTC) "/* Aftermath section */ Reply"
- 02:08, 18 January 2025 (UTC) "/* Aftermath section */ Reply"
- 02:23, 18 January 2025 (UTC) "/* Aftermath section */ Reply"
Comments:
This is not the first time they are edit warring and breaking 3RR, they were previously warned by an admin . There seems to be a habit of them continuously misinterpreting the sources and pushing certain PoVs. They have opted for 3O by themselves but disagreed with the opinion given. Indo-Greek 12:22, 18 January 2025 (UTC)
- Im not that involved(haven’t reverted anybody, just made a comment on the talk page). As a word of advice because so many people seem to forget this fact, when your adding disputed content, ONUS is on you to attain consensus. Which hasn’t happened here.
- “The responsibility for achieving consensus for inclusion is on those seeking to include disputed content.”
- It seems that you yourself were also edit warring, except your the one who’s adding disputed content so per ONUS, you were never supposed to revert him to begin with. You need to wait until talk page discussions conclude and gain consensus. Someguywhosbored (talk) 15:13, 18 January 2025 (UTC)
- A. The instance you pointed out was an administrator warning me for one revert on the History of India page. (Talking to Indo-Greek, the person who reported and I had a dispute with here..)
- B. When the individual hasn't concluded their WP:3O, you immediately reverted the page again saying they did. There's still a very open discussion with the user... (They've even edited the page most recently!.. I'd also like to remind you WP:3O is non binding even when the opinion is given, meaning whether they say either or is in the right.. the dispute can still continue until a Consensus can be made. The burden of proof is on you for WP:ONUS (you also kept readding a non WP:RS source.. (Farrukh Hussain). I pointed out WP:3O as a solution, and you keep reverting the page far before they've given their opinion. Lee... (this is now bringing the argument from the talk page here..) calls it a phyrric victory. Noorullah (talk) 16:02, 18 January 2025 (UTC)
- I also told said where per WP:ONUS, it's per them to seek Consensus. Noorullah (talk) 16:17, 18 January 2025 (UTC)
- I reverted my edit as of now per the edit summary. (the last edit prior to that is the person working on our WP:3PO. Noorullah (talk) 16:34, 18 January 2025 (UTC)
- This seems like WP:TAGTEAM, but anyways. The admin had warned you for the same edit warring issue, not 1RR. You had asked for 3O which an editor eventually gave one quoting:
I found a huge contradiction in your quote. You said "Nothing here calls the battle a Sikh victory," but the quote literally says "The Sikhs had beaten the Afghans"
which was later discarded by you which is fine, but if other editors accusing you for overlooking the source and found you contradicting yourself then you should have been more cautious rather than outrightly reverting my changes. Indo-Greek 16:56, 18 January 2025 (UTC)- Have you not read the rest of the discussion..? the WP:3O is being discussed.
- You've completely ignored this.
- Scroll down! (on the talk page). Noorullah (talk) 17:10, 18 January 2025 (UTC)
- I also didn't violate the 3 revert rule. I didn't revert 4 times, I reverted 3 times. Although of course, this seems to be more inclined toward edit warring, which both of us did.
- @Someguywhosbored has just jumped into the discussion (and they seem to be more in favor of my argument) -- per their most recent talk page msg on the battle of jamrud, which shows a growing consensus on my side? .. Nonetheless, I still find this report baseless. Noorullah (talk) 17:35, 18 January 2025 (UTC)
- Both of us did No, I barely reverted your changes two times. You need to go through WP:3RR, don't confuse it with WP:4RR. I also think that Someguywhosbored didn't jump here randomly and what consensus you're referring to? The report is not baseless besides it shows some sign of WP:MEAT. Indo-Greek 19:39, 18 January 2025 (UTC)
- What?
- "No, I barely reverted your changes two times. You need to go through WP:3RR" -- Yes, I'm talking about myself.. I reverted 3 times, to break the 3rr rule, you have to revert more than three times (i.e 4 times) "An editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page" -- I also self reverted per the former.
- "Someguywhosbored didn't jump here randomly and what consensus you're referring to?" -- He responded on the talk page (of the page), he responded here, and he also re-reverted the page.
- "The report is not baseless besides it shows some sign of WP:MEAT." - Are you insinuating @Someguywhosbored is a Meatpuppet? Because you've drawn effectively numerous flanks into the air on what this report is really about.
- A. In your edit summary you said the Third opinion was concluded.. (it wasn't.)
- B. You report here for 3rr (when 3rr wasn't violated, and I'm assuming this is more inclined toward edit war..?)
- C. You then throw around Meatpuppet accusations?
- I'm sorry but there's no way this discussion is remaining civil anymore. Did you even read the Meatpuppet page? "The term meatpuppet may be seen by some as derogatory and should be used with care, in keeping with Misplaced Pages:Civility. Because of the processes above, it may be counterproductive to directly accuse someone of being a "meatpuppet", and doing so will often only inflame the dispute."
- Flinging around accusations of Meatpuppetry clearly breaches Civility. Noorullah (talk) 20:05, 18 January 2025 (UTC)
- You also did revert it three times.. Shown here:
- (First time)
- (Second time)
- (Third Time) Noorullah (talk) 20:42, 18 January 2025 (UTC)
- You are again falsely accusing me of breaking 3RR. You do realise that the first revert was more than 24 hours prior than the other two? I don't have much to say here it's quite self explanatory, while this is not the same case with you, where 3RR has been violated in the span of 24 hours. Indo-Greek 21:09, 18 January 2025 (UTC)
- I'm not accusing you of breaking 3RR, I'm saying you reverted three times. To break 3RR it has to be four reverts. (you have to revert more than three times). Your reverts were also in a 24 hour period. (Or just shy of it?)
- I didn't revert four times to break 3RR. Where are the diffs of me reverting you four times? Noorullah (talk) 21:12, 18 January 2025 (UTC)
- You are again falsely accusing me of breaking 3RR. You do realise that the first revert was more than 24 hours prior than the other two? I don't have much to say here it's quite self explanatory, while this is not the same case with you, where 3RR has been violated in the span of 24 hours. Indo-Greek 21:09, 18 January 2025 (UTC)
- Both of us did No, I barely reverted your changes two times. You need to go through WP:3RR, don't confuse it with WP:4RR. I also think that Someguywhosbored didn't jump here randomly and what consensus you're referring to? The report is not baseless besides it shows some sign of WP:MEAT. Indo-Greek 19:39, 18 January 2025 (UTC)
- I also told said where per WP:ONUS, it's per them to seek Consensus. Noorullah (talk) 16:17, 18 January 2025 (UTC)
No violation – there must be four or more reverts within a 24 hour period for the 3-Revert Rule to apply; the links you have provided do not meet these criteria. As noted in the loooong discussion above, which again proves that using the talk page is a much preferable alternative to taking it over here. Also, this is getting a bit stale. Daniel Case (talk) 12:33, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
User:Thomediter reported by User:Number 57 (Result: Declined)
Page: Next Danish general election (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: Thomediter (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Diffs of the user's reverts:
Editor was asked to respect BRD and warned that one more revert would result in them being reported for breaching 3RR. They made the fourth revert immediately after responding to the warning.
Diff of ANEW notice posted to user's talk page:
Comments:
- User:Thomediter, I am going to revert your last (fourth) revert; you are indeed edit warring and you're not giving any reasons for your edits, never mind for your ongoing reverts. If you revert one more time you will be blocked. Please don't let it get that far. Seek the talk page. Drmies (talk) 17:40, 18 January 2025 (UTC)
- Declined per above and reported editor's inactivity. Daniel Case (talk) 22:46, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
User:GiggaHigga127 reported by User:Mac Dreamstate (Result: 48 hours)
Page: Conor Benn (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: GiggaHigga127 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Previous version reverted to: – only welterweight in the infobox
Diffs of the user's reverts:
Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning:
Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: clarification on style guide at user talk page
Diff of ANEW notice posted to user's talk page:
Comments:
User:GiggaHigga127 insists on adding the light middleweight and middleweight divisions to Conor Benn's infobox. Our style guide at WikiProject Boxing, MOS:BOXING, says to only include weight classes in which a boxer has notably competed, that being usually for regional/minor/world titles. In Benn's case, that division was welterweight for almost the entirety of his career, and he did indeed hold a regional title in that division. In 2023 he was given a lengthy ban from the sport, from which he recently returned in a pair of throwaway fights within the light middleweight limit, against non-notable opposition and with no titles at stake. Per the style guide, those throwaway fights are not important enough to warrant the inclusion of light middleweight in the infobox, at least until he begins competing there regularly.
As far as middleweight goes, Benn has never competed anywhere close to that weight class. He has a fight 'scheduled' to take place at middleweight, but until the bell rings to officially commence proceedings, WP:CRYSTAL and WP:V should apply, and again it should not be listed in the infobox until then. This same fight was 'scheduled' in 2023, only to be cancelled after Benn failed a drug test—something which happens in boxing all the time. In fact, at the Project we had a similar RfC regarding upcoming fights in record tables, so the same should apply in this instance. WP:IAR would also be a cop-out, because the whole point of MOS:BOXING was to ensure consistency across boxing articles. Mac Dreamstate (talk) 18:50, 18 January 2025 (UTC)
- It continues: , this time with me being called a "melt". I can't imagine what that is, but all the better if it's an insult for obvious reasons. Also, no responses at user talk page. Mac Dreamstate (talk) 00:06, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
- Predictably, now it's onto block evasion: . NOTHERE. Mac Dreamstate (talk) 15:41, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
- Based on this, it could be meaty as well. Mac Dreamstate (talk) 21:18, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
- Neither nor. I stand by the revision, but that's where any commonality ends. --Dennis Definition (talk) 22:53, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
- Of course you stand by the revision. You show up less than 12 hours after Gigga gets blocked, and perform the exact same revert. Dodgy. Mac Dreamstate (talk) 19:17, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
- Neither nor. I stand by the revision, but that's where any commonality ends. --Dennis Definition (talk) 22:53, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
- Based on this, it could be meaty as well. Mac Dreamstate (talk) 21:18, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
- Predictably, now it's onto block evasion: . NOTHERE. Mac Dreamstate (talk) 15:41, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
User:Logoshimpo reported by User:JayBeeEll (Result: Blocked 24h)
Page: Probability and statistics (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: Logoshimpo (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Previous version reverted to:
Diffs of the user's reverts:
Slow-motion edit-warring: original bold edit was , subsequent reversions are , , .
Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:
Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:
- 20:46, 17 January 2025 (UTC) "/* WP:SELFREF */ Reply"
Comments: The last revert follows talk-page discussion in which two users (including me) have rejected their arguments and no one has agreed with them. Here was their addition to the talk-page before their most recent revert: . JBL (talk) 17:07, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
- Blocked – for a period of 24 hours Daniel Case (talk) 22:49, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
User:Rauzoi reported by User:Crasias (Result: Blocked 36 hours, reporter blocked 24, and page protected for a week)
Page: Nachos (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: Rauzoi (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Previous version reverted to:
Diffs of the user's reverts:
- 17:20, 19 January 2025 (UTC) "original version https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Nachos&diff=prev&oldid=1187016754 vandalized by Crasias"
- Consecutive edits made from 17:00, 19 January 2025 (UTC) to 17:04, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
- 17:00, 19 January 2025 (UTC) "Undid revision 1270457231 by Crasias (talk)"
- 17:04, 19 January 2025 (UTC) ""
- 16:42, 19 January 2025 (UTC) "original version https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Nachos&diff=prev&oldid=1187016754"
- Consecutive edits made from 06:41, 19 January 2025 (UTC) to 06:43, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
- Consecutive edits made from 04:00, 19 January 2025 (UTC) to 04:02, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
- 04:00, 19 January 2025 (UTC) ""
- 04:01, 19 January 2025 (UTC) ""
- 04:02, 19 January 2025 (UTC) "/* Variations */"
Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:
Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:
Comments:
Frequently removing and replacing sourced content that identifies Nachos as "Tex-Mex" rather than "Mexican" Crasias (talk) 17:32, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
- Both editors blocked Rauzoi for 36 hours and Crasias for 24 (one less revert over the limit). 3RRNO does not cover this. Furthermore ...
- Page protected Extended-confirmed for a week since, as both editors are autoconfirmed only, they will not be able to resume hostilities once the blocks expire. The talk page hasn't been used in months. Daniel Case (talk) 23:04, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
User:BoneCrushingDog reported by User:Generalrelative (Result: Blocked one week)
Page: Sex differences in intelligence (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: BoneCrushingDog (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Diffs of the user's reverts:
Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning:
Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:
Diff of ANEW notice posted to user's talk page:
Comments: Note that these edits fall squarely under WP:ARBGS, and the last (6th) revert was done after they were formally notified. Generalrelative (talk) 23:23, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
- Blocked – for a period of one week. Bbb23 (talk) 00:33, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
User:177.84.58.25 reported by User:Moxy (Result: Page already semi-protected)
Page: Exclusive economic zone (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: 177.84.58.25 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Previous version reverted to:
Diffs of the user's reverts:
- Consecutive edits made from 01:13, 20 January 2025 (UTC) to 01:19, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
- 01:13, 20 January 2025 (UTC) "Eu não sou essa pessoa que você está a citar eu comecei a alterar essa página essa e a minhas primeiras vezes , eu estou alteração está página porque eu gosto de ver a área da ZEE de cada país um abaixo do outro ."
- 01:17, 20 January 2025 (UTC) "I started changing this page today I'm just making changes to this page because I like to see the Zee area of each country in the world, please don't make changes"
- 01:19, 20 January 2025 (UTC) "I started changing this page today I'm just making changes to this page because I like to see the Zee area of each country in the world, please don't make changes"
- 00:56, 20 January 2025 (UTC) "Eu não vou mais fazer alteração se deixar o Rankings by area porque eu gosto de Rankings by area"
- 00:46, 20 January 2025 (UTC) "ZEE com alteração perfeita"
- 00:21, 20 January 2025 (UTC) "Alterei o tamanho da zona exclusiva econômica do brasil porque a ZEE aumentou em 2024"
- 23:49, 19 January 2025 (UTC) "Antes essa página sofreu alteração incorreta, com eu fiz uma alteração mais correta ."
Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:
- 00:58, 20 January 2025 (UTC) "Warning: Three-revert rule."
Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:
We discover this week that random numbers were changed a while ago. We changed them back and sort of started a discussion User talk:Maxeto0910#EEZ
Comments:
We are not sure what they are doing...... Think they're mistaken continental shelf for EEZ.Moxy🍁 01:27, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
- Page protected (already semi-protected) ~ ToBeFree (talk) 06:38, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
User:2A01:4B00:D10A:6700:C8CB:A681:5BFA:C14D reported by User:Flat Out (Result: Already blocked)
Page: Harti (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: 2A01:4B00:D10A:6700:C8CB:A681:5BFA:C14D (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Previous version reverted to:
Diffs of the user's reverts:
- 02:28, 20 January 2025 (UTC) "/* Enterprisers */"
- 02:27, 20 January 2025 (UTC) "/* Royalty */"
- 02:21, 20 January 2025 (UTC) "/* Enterprisers */"
- Consecutive edits made from 02:16, 20 January 2025 (UTC) to 02:19, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
- 02:16, 20 January 2025 (UTC) "/* Royalty */"
- 02:19, 20 January 2025 (UTC) "/* Politicians */"
Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:
- 02:27, 20 January 2025 (UTC) "/* Edit Warring */ new section"
Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:
Comments:
- Already blocked (/64 blocked for 1 week by Daniel Case) ~ ToBeFree (talk) 06:41, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
User:Xpander1 reported by User:MimirIsSmart (Result: Blocked 72 hours)
Page: Tübingen School (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: Xpander1 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Previous version reverted to:
Diffs of the user's reverts:
- 07:15, 20 January 2025 (UTC) "Restored revision 974048061 by Arms & Hearts (talk): Self-reverting as per Misplaced Pages:3RRNO"
- 06:20, 20 January 2025 (UTC) "Restored revision 1270517034 by Xpander1 (talk): Please see the redirect page for adding new edits"
- 22:40, 19 January 2025 (UTC) "Restored revision 1270516481 by Xpander1 (talk): Please avoid making an edit war, I asked you nicely"
- 22:37, 19 January 2025 (UTC) "Undid revision 1270516027 by Wikishovel (talk)"
- 22:32, 19 January 2025 (UTC) "Restored revision 1270489731 by Xpander1 (talk): Please add the new sources to Protestant and Catholic Tübingen School Best."
- Consecutive edits made from 19:26, 19 January 2025 (UTC) to 19:58, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
- 19:26, 19 January 2025 (UTC) "Undid revision 1270482917 by Wikishovel (talk) other editors simply continued my original work, which I respect"
- 19:58, 19 January 2025 (UTC) "Redirecting page the newly created page"
- 19:17, 19 January 2025 (UTC) "Restored revision 974048061 by Arms & Hearts (talk): Reverting my own edit to contest page creation attribution"
- 19:07, 18 January 2025 (UTC) "Undid revision 1270267643 by Xpander1 (talk)"
Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:
- 07:46, 20 January 2025 (UTC) "/* January 2025 */ new section"
Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:
- 07:44, 20 January 2025 (UTC) "/* Page creator attribution */ Reply"
- 02:27, 19 January 2025 (UTC) on Misplaced Pages:Requested moves/Technical requests "/* Uncontroversial technical requests */ Decline, this one is more of a histmerge request which would also be declined from WP:NOATT - I'm happy to explain further on a talk page"
Comments:
Extremely aggressive edit warring. Xpander1 had expanded a redirect to a page with no issue but decided it would be better to just create a page, hence a discussion at Special:Diff/1270341854. Editor decided to "redact contribution in protest", initially blanking then resorting to redirecting. User:Wikishovel would assist in reverting these changes with Xpander1 reacting negatively, violating 3RR to get it erased. Editor had created redirects such as Protestant and Catholic Tübingen Schools and Tübingen school (Germany), with Protestant and Catholic Tübingen School being where he did a cut-and-paste move from original article. Has no intention to resolve dispute any time soon. MimirIsSmart (talk) 08:26, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
- All I did was self-reverting, the article had no significant history before my contribution. What you are describing as "copy-pasting", is me putting my own creation in a new page. As I have explained in many places, in the WP:Teahouse, and elsewhere. My rationale is very simple, Misplaced Pages must distinguish between valid-article-creators and redirect-page-creators. I currently count as the latter. Which don't think is fair. Xpander (talk) 08:49, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
- As for now, the page is currently being attributed to User:Wetman on xtools.wmcloud.org/pages/en.wikipedia.org/Wetman and on the article's info page. Xpander (talk) 09:12, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
The Teahouse discussion can be found (for now) at WP:Teahouse#Made an article in place of an redirect. Please see also User talk:Voorts#Protestant and Catholic Tübingen School and Talk:Protestant and Catholic Tübingen School. Wikishovel (talk) 09:09, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
- Blocked – for a period of 72 hours Like Wikishovel, I am mystified—no, make it stunned—that Xpander thinks this edit-warring is justified. In what sense are they not being attributed as the page creator sufficiently for their ego? Do they mean that the page creation log isn't saying that they are? Uh, that's something the software does, that by design no one has control over. Wetman is going to get credit for creating the page, yes, as the empty redirect it was apparently quite happy to have been for 15 years. As noted, no editor familiar with how our processes work would doubt that Xpander, in practical terms, created the article by translating the dewiki article, regardless of what the logs say.
Xpander's repeated reversion to the redirect is, frankly, childish behavior that smacks of page ownership. I strongly remind them not to expect rewards for their editing.
I also reject their argument that 3RRNO#1 shields them as they were merely always "reverting their own edit". Technically that might be arguable, but it is inarguable that, especially given their statement that this was a protest over not getting credit for something no one really expects credit for, they did so in a manner calculated to cause maximum disruption and interfere with the work of others. To allow this to pass on that basis would be opening up a whole new way to game the system. Daniel Case (talk) 20:17, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
- Addendum: I also commend WP:NO THANKS to Xpander1's attention. Daniel Case (talk) 22:23, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
User:92.238.20.255 reported by User:Expert on all topics (Result: Blocked 31 hours)
Page: Oriel High School (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: 92.238.20.255 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Previous version reverted to:
Diffs of the user's reverts:
- 19:20, 20 January 2025 (UTC) "Updated content"
- 19:18, 20 January 2025 (UTC) "Updated content"
- 19:16, 20 January 2025 (UTC) "Deleted content"
- 19:12, 20 January 2025 (UTC) "Deleted content"
- 19:04, 20 January 2025 (UTC) "Deleted content"
Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:
Comments: This IP is trying to censor information in that article --Expert on all topics (talk) 19:26, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
- Blocked – for a period of 31 hours Widr (talk) 19:36, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
- I undid that block and restored it because simply removing the block isn't really an option in response to actually disruptive editing, but the IP editor's behavior wasn't the main issue in this edit war. I'll send warnings around to people who should know better. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 19:43, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
Kelvintjy reported by User:Raoul mishima (Result: Stale)
Page: Political dissidence in the Empire of Japan
User being reported: Kelvintjy (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Previous version reverted to: https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Political_dissidence_in_the_Empire_of_Japan&oldid=1217491179
Diffs of the user's reverts:
- https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Political_dissidence_in_the_Empire_of_Japan&oldid=1227039793
- https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Political_dissidence_in_the_Empire_of_Japan&oldid=1229865081
- https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Political_dissidence_in_the_Empire_of_Japan&oldid=1230019964
- https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Political_dissidence_in_the_Empire_of_Japan&oldid=1230184562
Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: See July 24th 2024 https://en.wikipedia.org/User_talk:Kelvintjy
Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: See "Biased" https://en.wikipedia.org/Talk:Political_dissidence_in_the_Empire_of_Japan
Diff of ANEW notice posted to user's talk page: https://en.wikipedia.org/User_talk:Kelvintjy
Comments:
Hello the user Kelvintjy has been engaged in another war last summer and was banned from the Soka Gakkai page. He's been pursuing an edit war on the Dissidence page too without daring give explanations on the talk page though he was invited to do it many times. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Raoul mishima (talk • contribs) 19:58, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
- Stale Bbb23 (talk) 20:03, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Bbb23 you blocked this user from the page Soka Gakkai in Aug. 2024 for the same reasons. Raoul mishima (talk) 12:54, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
- You also block Raoul but later unblocked him after he made his appeal. Kelvintjy (talk) 00:37, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
I don't understand the user always keep targeting me. I am more of a silence contributor. I had seen how the complainant had argue with other contributor in other talk page and after a while the complainant stay silent and not touching certain topic and instead keep making edit on articles related to Soka Gakkai or Daisaku Ikeda. Now, he is making a lot of edit on Soka Gakkai International. Kelvintjy (talk) 05:11, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
User:Ergzay reported by User:CommunityNotesContributor (Result: 1RR imposed on article)
Page: Elon Musk (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: Ergzay (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Previous version reverted to:
Diffs of the user's reverts:
- 18:31, 21 January 2025 (UTC) "Undid revision 1270884092 by RodRabelo7 (talk) Reverting for user specifying basically WP:IDONTLIKETHIS as their reasoning"
- 18:12, 21 January 2025 (UTC) "Undid revision 1270880207 by EF5 (talk) I believe you have reverted this edit in error so I am adding it back. Rando tweet from a random organization? The Anti-defamation league is cited elsewhere in this article and this tweet was in the article previously. I simply copy pasted it from a previous edit. ADL is a trusted source in the perennial source list WP:Reliable_sources/Perennial_sources#Anti-Defamation_League"
- 17:52, 21 January 2025 (UTC) "Undid revision 1270877579 by EF5 (talk) Removing misinformation"
- 17:30, 21 January 2025 (UTC) "Undid revision 1270854942 by Citing (talk) Discussion ongoing and it's incorrect as well"
- 23:07, 20 January 2025 (UTC) "Revert, this is not the purpose of the short description"
- 22:28, 20 January 2025 (UTC) "Undid revision 1270715109 by Fakescientist8000 (talk) Elon is not a multinational"
Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:
- 17:57, 21 January 2025 (UTC) "Warning: Three-revert rule on Elon Musk." (edit: corrected diff)
Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:
- 18:32, 21 January 2025 (UTC) "stop edit warring now or it all goes to ANI" (edit: added diff, fix date)
Comments:
Breach of WP:3RR (added comment after 18:49, 21 January 2025 (UTC) comment added below). CNC (talk) 18:52, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
User:CommunityNotesContributor seems to be making a mistake here as several of those edits were of different content. You can't just list every single revert and call it edit warring. And the brief edit warring that did happen stopped as I realized I was reverting the wrong thing. https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Talk:Elon_Musk&diff=prev&oldid=1270879523 Ergzay (talk) 18:49, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
- Read the bright read box at WP:3RR (. O3000, Ret. (talk) 18:54, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Objective3000 So let me get this straight, you're saying making unrelated reverts of unrelated content in a 24 hour period hits 3RR? You sure you got that right? As people violate that one all the darn time. Never bothered to report people as it's completely innocent. If you're heavily involved on a page and reverting stuff you'll hit that quick and fast for a rapidly updated page. Ergzay (talk) 18:59, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
- WP:3RR:
An editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page—whether involving the same or different material—within a 24-hour period.
– Muboshgu (talk) 19:01, 21 January 2025 (UTC)- Well TIL on that one as that's the first time I've ever heard of that use case and I've been on this site for 15+ years. 3RR in every use I've ever seen it is about back and forth reverting of the _same content_ within a short period of time. It's a severe rule break where people are clearly edit warring the same content back and forth. Reverting unrelated content on the page (edits that are often clearly vandalism-like edits, like the first two listed) would never violate 3RR in my experience. Ergzay (talk) 19:04, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
- I'd honestly love an explanation on that rule as I can't figure out why it makes sense. You don't want to limit people's ability to fix vandalism on a fast moving page. Ergzay (talk) 19:08, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
- WP:3RR:
There are certain exemptions to the three-revert rule, such as reverting vandalism or clear violations of the policy on biographies of living persons
. – RodRabelo7 (talk) 19:11, 21 January 2025 (UTC)- No I mean even in the wider sense. Like why does it make sense to limit the ability to revert unrelated content on the same page? I can't figure out why that would make sense. The 3RR page doesn't explain that. Ergzay (talk) 19:13, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
- Vandalism is an exemption. But vandalism has a narrow definition. O3000, Ret. (talk) 19:12, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
- WP:3RR:
- WP:3RR:
- @Objective3000 So let me get this straight, you're saying making unrelated reverts of unrelated content in a 24 hour period hits 3RR? You sure you got that right? As people violate that one all the darn time. Never bothered to report people as it's completely innocent. If you're heavily involved on a page and reverting stuff you'll hit that quick and fast for a rapidly updated page. Ergzay (talk) 18:59, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
- Should be added, that I was in the process of reverting my own edit after the above linked comment, but someone reverted it before I could get to it.
- The 18:12 edit was me undoing what was presumed to be a mistaken change by EF5 that I explained in my edit comment as they seemed to think that "some random twitter account" was being used as a source. That revert was not reverted. The 18:31 edit was a revert of an "i don't like it" edit that someone else made, it was not a revert of a revert of my own change. Ergzay (talk) 19:17, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
- Frankly, I thought your characterization of IDONTLIKEIT in your edit summary was improper and was thinking of reverting you, but didn't want to be a part of what I thought was your edit war. O3000, Ret. (talk) 19:26, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
- We can agree to disagree, but the reasons I called it IDONTLIKEIT was because the person who was reverted described the ADL, who is on the perennial sources list as being reliable, in their first edit description with the wording "LMAO, this is as trustworthy as Fox News" followed by "cannot see the pertinence of this" after another editor restored the content with a different source, which is the edit I reverted. Ergzay (talk) 19:34, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
- Looks like you have seven reverts in two days in a CTOP. I've even seen admins ask someone else to revert instead of violating a revert rule themselves. O3000, Ret. (talk) 19:48, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
- What is a CTOP? Ergzay (talk) 19:58, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
- A CTOP is a WP:CTOP. RodRabelo7 (talk) 19:59, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
- What is a CTOP? Ergzay (talk) 19:58, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
- Looks like you have seven reverts in two days in a CTOP. I've even seen admins ask someone else to revert instead of violating a revert rule themselves. O3000, Ret. (talk) 19:48, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
- We can agree to disagree, but the reasons I called it IDONTLIKEIT was because the person who was reverted described the ADL, who is on the perennial sources list as being reliable, in their first edit description with the wording "LMAO, this is as trustworthy as Fox News" followed by "cannot see the pertinence of this" after another editor restored the content with a different source, which is the edit I reverted. Ergzay (talk) 19:34, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
- Frankly, I thought your characterization of IDONTLIKEIT in your edit summary was improper and was thinking of reverting you, but didn't want to be a part of what I thought was your edit war. O3000, Ret. (talk) 19:26, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
- In Ergzay's defense some of these reverts do seem to be covered under BLP, but many do not and I am concerned about the battleground attitude that Ergzay is taking. The edit summaries "Discussion ongoing and it's incorrect as well" and "Removing misinformation" also seems to be getting into righting great wrongs territory as the coverage happened whether you agree with the analysis or not. Horse Eye's Back (talk) 20:05, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Horse Eye's Back Thanks but at this point things are too heated and people are so confident Musk is some kind of Nazi now nothing I say is gonna change anything. It's not worth the mental exhaustion I spent over the last few hours. So I probably won't be touching the page or talk page again for several days at least unless I get pinged. The truth will come out eventually, just like the last several tempest in a teapots on the Elon Musk page that eventually got corrected. Misplaced Pages is gonna be Misplaced Pages. Ergzay (talk) 21:48, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
Misplaced Pages is gonna be Misplaced Pages.
If your argument is that Misplaced Pages is wrong about things and you have to come in periodically to fix it; that’s not an argument that works very well on an administrative noticeboard -- and certainly not a good argument here at AN3. O3000, Ret. (talk) 22:27, 21 January 2025 (UTC)- I wouldn't worry all too much about it, 1rr for the article will slow things down and is a positive outcome all things considered. Horse Eye's Back (talk) 03:26, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Horse Eye's Back Thanks but at this point things are too heated and people are so confident Musk is some kind of Nazi now nothing I say is gonna change anything. It's not worth the mental exhaustion I spent over the last few hours. So I probably won't be touching the page or talk page again for several days at least unless I get pinged. The truth will come out eventually, just like the last several tempest in a teapots on the Elon Musk page that eventually got corrected. Misplaced Pages is gonna be Misplaced Pages. Ergzay (talk) 21:48, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
- Based on the comment in response to the notification for this discussion,
"I've been brought to ANI many times in the past. Never been punished for it"
, I was quite surprised to see that the editor didn't acquire an understanding of 3RR when previously warned for edit warring in 2020. That's sometime ago granted, but additionally a lack of awareness of CTOP, when there is an edit notice at Musk's page regarding BLP policy, is highly suggestive of WP:NOTGETTINGIT. This in addition to the 3RR warning that was ignored, followed by continuing to revert other editors, and eventually arguing that it must be because I am wrong. If there is an essay based on "Everyone else must be wrong because I'm always right" I'd very much like to read it. As for this report, I primarily wanted to nip the edit war in the bud which appears to have worked for now, given the talk page warning failed to achieve anything. I otherwise remain concerned about the general WP:NOTHERE based indicators; disruptive editing, battleground attitude, and lack of willingness to collaborate with other editors in a civil manner. CNC (talk) 23:55, 21 January 2025 (UTC)- I have decided, under CTOPS and mindful of the current situation regarding the article subject, a situation that I think we can agree is unlikely to change anytime soon and is just going to attract more contentious editing, that the best resolution here, given that some of Ergzay's reverts are concededly justified on BLP grounds and that he genuinely seems ignorant of the provision in 3RR that covers all edits (a provision that, since he still wants to know, is in response to certain battleground editors in the past who would keep reverting different material within the same 24 hours so as to comply with the letter, but not the spirit, of 3RR (In other words, another case of why we can't have nice things)) is to put the article under 1RR. It will be duly logged at CTOPS. Daniel Case (talk) 00:02, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
- We are likely to see Ergzay at ANI at some point. But as I was thinking of asking for 1RR early today; I'm fine with that decision. O3000, Ret. (talk) 00:25, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
- Good decision. I otherwise think a final warning for edit warring is appropriate, given the 3RR violation even excluding BLPREMOVE reverts (first 4 diffs to be specific). There's nothing else to drag out here given Ergzay intends to take a step back from the Musk article, and per above, there is always the ANI route for any future incidents. CNC (talk) 00:40, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
- I have decided, under CTOPS and mindful of the current situation regarding the article subject, a situation that I think we can agree is unlikely to change anytime soon and is just going to attract more contentious editing, that the best resolution here, given that some of Ergzay's reverts are concededly justified on BLP grounds and that he genuinely seems ignorant of the provision in 3RR that covers all edits (a provision that, since he still wants to know, is in response to certain battleground editors in the past who would keep reverting different material within the same 24 hours so as to comply with the letter, but not the spirit, of 3RR (In other words, another case of why we can't have nice things)) is to put the article under 1RR. It will be duly logged at CTOPS. Daniel Case (talk) 00:02, 22 January 2025 (UTC)