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Might come back when "they" stop EATING THE DOGS, EATING THE CATS, EATING THE PETS... Poor old Springfield. ] <small>(])</small> 15:00, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
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:{{U|Shev123}} Thank you. Could you direct me to one of the example Boat Race images you have uploaded to Commons so I can have a look? All the best, ] (]) 16:14, 10 April 2017 (UTC)
::For exemple, the is for 1924. --] (]) 16:15, 10 April 2017 (UTC)
:::{{U|Shev123}} merveilleuse, thank you so much. I'll take some time later to go through these and add some of them to the articles! ] (]) 16:17, 10 April 2017 (UTC)
::::You're welcome ! I am writing about sports (nordic combined, rowing and hockey) on french wiki and I know how hard it is to find good pictures. --] (]) 16:28, 10 April 2017 (UTC)
:::::{{U|Shev123}} cool. The only thing I am concerned over is that the licensing applied to those images currently means they may not be used on Misplaced Pages as they have no evidence of PD in the US.... Any ideas on that? ] (]) 16:29, 10 April 2017 (UTC)
::::::I thought it was fine but I am not sure anymore. It may be good : ] but a specialist might be needed. --] (]) 20:36, 10 April 2017 (UTC)
:::::::{{tps}} {{yo|Shev123}} since the BNF rowing photographs you uploaded are credited to a press agency instead of individuals, I believe the copyright period is 70 years after publication (see ]). So the photographs from 1923 to 1925 are public domain in the US with the {{tlx|PD-URAA}} tag, since they were public domain in France by January 1, 1996 (and of course, anything earlier than January 1, 1923 is {{tlx|PD-1923}}). Photos dated 1926 and later had their copyrights restored by ] and won't be public domain until 95 years after publication, unless you can show that the photos were also published in the United States within 30 days either without a copyright notice or with a copyright notice but copyright wasn't renewed (see http://copyright.cornell.edu/resources/publicdomain.cfm). You can ask for help with investigating the status of the files at ]. All of this is moot if BNF waived their rights to the images with a license such as , but I can't find anything like that on their site. Hope this was of some help. ]<sub>(])</sub> 18:27, 12 April 2017 (UTC)
::::::::{{U|Clpo13}} Thanks for your answer. I have two other questions for you :
::::::::*The says (in short) that the French National Librairy bought the images when the compagnies ran out of business. Does it changed something ? (I think the images could have in the public domain before the 70 years)
::::::::*Is these images of 1932 University Boat Race‎ and 1933 University Boat Race‎ could be upload on English[REDACTED] instead of Commons ? Thanks --] (]) 10:47, 13 April 2017 (UTC)
:::::::::*I don't think that changes anything. It looks like any images that are in the public domain are there because of age, not because of anything BNF did.
:::::::::*Unfortunately, no. On Commons, images must be public domain in the source country ''and'' the United States (]). On the English Misplaced Pages, images just need to be public domain in the United States (]). Since these images were published after 1923 and were still copyrighted on the URAA date (January 1, 1996), they're still copyrighted in the United States. You might be able to make a case for ] of a particular image if you can satisfy the criteria at ]. ]<sub>(])</sub> 20:30, 13 April 2017 (UTC)
:::::::::Ok, thanks for your answer. I will ask for deletion the images for the 1932 and 1933 races. So these images are going to be in the public domain in the US in nearly 10 years, is that correct ? --] (]) 09:47, 14 April 2017 (UTC)
{{U|Clpo13}} thanks for that, what a shame. ] (]) 18:29, 12 April 2017 (UTC)


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I'd quite like to do a bit more work on the management sections before going for FA, but I can't see when I'll get a chunk of time to do it—if you could hold fire for a while I would appreciate it. Sorry but I am crazy busy now and rarely have any time to contribute. Cheers —<span style="border:solid 0px;color:#fff;background:darkgreen;box-shadow:darkgray 0px 0px 3px">&nbsp;&nbsp;]&nbsp;]&nbsp;</span> 16:37, 12 April 2017 (UTC)
:{{U|Cliftonian}} absolutely, no rush. Just ping me and Dweller when you're back in the game. I've added you into a DYK nom for Alf, just to keep the ball rolling! ] (]) 16:39, 12 April 2017 (UTC)
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:Whaddya mean? It passed a day or two back... ] (]) 14:44, 13 April 2017 (UTC)
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I have never been to the Angels ballpark, so I can't give you any experienced advice. But there are various factors, including where you want to be vs. how close you can get. A lower-level box seat would be preferable, but those might all be season-ticket holders. However, in terms of getting food and drink, the stands (and especially the box seat areas) should have plenty of vendors walking around trying to sell stuff. Another factor could be how familiar you are with the game itself (though I suspect you've got a pretty good idea of the basics) and thus how far away you can tolerate being from the infield and still be able to follow what's going on. The Angels website might be good for ticket availability, and it's also possible they've got a virtual-reality look from every section of seats, as some team sites do. But at the very least, they'll have an overhead seating chart. ←] <sup>'']''</sup> ]→ 17:19, 12 April 2017 (UTC)
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:I hope you're able to get a good ticket and to enjoy the game tonight. I'll be watching the box score on ESPN to see what's happening. If for some reason you can't get to the game, there is always ] and ] as tourist options. ←] <sup>'']''</sup> ]→ 16:57, 13 April 2017 (UTC)
::Thanks! ] (]) 16:58, 13 April 2017 (UTC)
:::I hadn't realized it was an afternoon game. Effectively over after the top of the 6th, so if a large percentage of the 30,000 people attending started heading for the exits, then traffic wouldn't have been too bad for you if you stayed for the whole thing. The box score suggests the extent of the Hispanic influence in the sport. Baseball is big throughout Latin America. I'm interested to know where you sat and whether you got to interact a lot with nearby fans. And whether you took any good pics to post here or elsewhere. d:) ←] <sup>'']''</sup> ]→ 01:49, 14 April 2017 (UTC)
::::I was pretty high up, along the right foul line, I'll post a picture later. For an MLB virgin it was perfect. Texas started brilliantly, some no-hoper hit the first ball of the afternoon foul, everyone jeered (although there were loads of Texas fans), and then proceeded to smash the second around 425 feet (he did it the hard way). Errors in the field destroyed the Angels chances, although the last-gasp homer was nice because we got to see some flames and fireworks and all that jazz. I'm a fan (although not necessarily of Pooholes and the Angels, especially lazy fielding from ], they were lousy). ] (]) 01:53, 14 April 2017 (UTC)
:::::{{U|Baseball Bugs}} another thing - it's not even a "diamond" any more! Edges cut out etc, what gives? ] (]) 02:03, 14 April 2017 (UTC)
::::::Excellent photo! Not the worst place to be, and a good spot to follow the arc of Gomez's home run. And if you connect the bases like dots and blank out the rest, you still get that "diamond" effect. When the leadoff man knocks one out, that's usually an ill omen. You might have noticed that 592 behind centerfield. Although it looks about that far away from the plate, it's actually a career homer countdown for Sr. Pujols, who entered the season with 591. Hitting over 500 (legitimately) is pretty much a ticket to the Hall of Fame. Unfortunately, after some championship years in St. Louis, he landed on the Angels, who seem to be perpetual underachievers. Anyway, I'm very glad you had a good time at "The Big A" and hope that you collected a bunch of souvenirs for your trophy case back home. :) ←] <sup>'']''</sup> ]→ 02:53, 14 April 2017 (UTC)
:::::::I had a blast. Pooholes underperformed on the day, but I understand he has a ten-year contract so he's probably not too phased by that. I loved my time there, from the "all rise for the national anthem", to the "kissing cam" to the "seventh inning stretch" (I've been whistling ] for the last couple of hours), most of the employees I met were over 60, it was great. I'd recommend it in a heartbeat. Next time I'm in the States, let's do it together and you explain everything I'm not really getting! (You don't even need a passport!) ] (]) 02:58, 14 April 2017 (UTC)
::::::::Sounds good! ←] <sup>'']''</sup> ]→ 15:06, 14 April 2017 (UTC)


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::::{{U|Geni}} I forgot to say I appreciated your efforts but you spoke with Bishonen, a perfectly acceptable outcome would have been to suggest an unblock. Do you agree this is now a punitive block as the whole episode had been dealt with by fellow admins before Bishonen got involved, apparently without doing sufficient reading in any case? ] (]) 21:29, 14 April 2017 (UTC)
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