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== Jan 2023 == | ||
| @] Hello, its one thing to make valid criticism of an edit, its yet another to make adhominem attacks against other editors like you did here with no regards to ]. If you have doubts regarding my ], you are welcome to discuss the edits with ] and by ], so long as you stop making ]. | |||
| Could it be him ?--] (]) 10:57, 25 October 2017 (UTC) | |||
| ~~ ] (]) 14:58 28 January 2023 | |||
| :It seems to me, for many reasons. {{U|BowlAndSpoon}} (formerly known as {{U|Iloveandrea}}), any words in your defense?] (]) 08:04, 26 October 2017 (UTC) | |||
| ::Does BAS got a standard offer?--] (]) 16:29, 26 October 2017 (UTC) | |||
| :::If I remember correctly, that is what he told me. That said, it must have happened after the BowlAndSpoon account was created on November 22, 2015; {{U|YeOldeGentleman}} was indeffed just three days earlier. For what it's worth, I have not seen any problematic editing from the BowlAndSpoon account.] (]) 01:28, 27 October 2017 (UTC) | |||
| == Dreamcast Sales Numbers == | |||
| Not guilty on this one! You can IP me and whatever. I'm not up to much on Misplaced Pages at the moment. And thank you to TTAAC for his evenhanded comments about me here. --] (]) 20:32, 29 October 2017 (UTC) | |||
| Please actually check out the source I posted. Its from Sega of Japans offical Website. It isn't from a press release but from the Dreamcast page in their Hardware History section. They (the page doesn't have an author listed) state that the Dreamcast sold more than 10 million units. Just because someone else once falsly claimed that it sold 10.6 million units, which Sega doesn't even claim just that it sold more than 10 million units, doesn't mean that the 9.13 million sales number is written in stone. The source for the Playstation 2 sales numbers on Misplaced Pages is basically the same thing, a page from the offical Sony Website about their hardware history so I do not understand why this page couldn't be used as a source for the sales numbers of the Sega Dreamcast despite literally being from Sega themselve. ] (]) 09:46, 28 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
| Also – just to make some sort of token effort to save the AusLondoner person some possible grief – if you look at my history of bannage, I have never used two accounts concurrently. I have been banned, then set up a new one to carry on where I left off, but I've never used two accounts at once. | |||
| :Here is the relevant excerpt. The page was released on Novmeber 5, 2018 and is entirely in japanese: | |||
| YeOldeGentleman was me. --] (]) 20:42, 29 October 2017 (UTC) | |||
| :セガ最後の家庭用ゲーム機『ドリームキャスト』は累計1,000万台あまりが世に送り出されました。 | |||
| :Which translates to: | |||
| :Sega's last home video game console, the Dreamcast, sold a total of more than 10 million units. | |||
| :Here is a link to the page as well as a link to an archive of the page from 3 days ago: | |||
| :https://www.sega.jp/history/hard/column/column_06.html | |||
| :https://web.archive.org/web/20241007020058/https://www.sega.jp/history/hard/column/column_06.html ] (]) 09:54, 28 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
| ::{{U|178.27.108.243}}, I reviewed the source that you provided; however, it appears to be close to a blog post, and not obviously more reliable than the 9.13 million CESA figure reported in Zackariasson ''et al.'' (], 2012). | |||
| ::More broadly, what happens on the ] article has no direct bearing on ]. You are now edit-warring against a prior talk page consensus, complete with a notice not to change the sales figure without consensus. | |||
| ::If you would like to discuss this further, it may be more productive to do so with the community at ], rather than on my user talk page.] (]) 10:11, 28 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
| ::{{U|178.27.108.243}}, tangentially, fails ] because the sources do not state that {{tq|"'']'' is the best-selling Sega Saturn game."}} Regardless of the truth of the claim, you should be aware that Misplaced Pages has strict sourcing requirements that do not permit editors to engage in ] ] of reliable sources to reach conclusions not directly supported by the citations provided.] (]) 10:28, 28 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
| :::You should change the Misplaced Pages page for Virtua Fighter 2 as well since its state there that: the top-selling game worldwide for the Sega Saturn . | |||
| :::Can I add Virtua Fighter 2 as the best selling game if I write that it was only the best selling in Japan? | |||
| :::I wasn't aware of 10.6 million claim nor of the debate about its credibility that happened nearly a decaded ago. | |||
| :::I however fail to see how that claim and debate means that the Dreamcast section of: ''The encyclopedia of Sega video game consoles'' from Sega of Japan's offical website which according to the banner on its index page (found here: https://www.sega.jp/history/hard/index.html) is: ''based on existing documents/materials at Sega'' (Original Text in Japanese: セガに現存する資料をもとに、歴代セガハードをご紹介) isn't a crediable source. I doubt that the japanese employee who created those pages used english internet discussions and rumors about console sales numbers as a source. | |||
| :::Your claim about Sega maybe just rounded up the Saturns unit sales number to 6 million also is just your speculation since you don't provide any proof. | |||
| :::In the case of the Mega Drive which sold about 3.58 million units according to Famitus the Megad Drive section of: ''The encyclopedia of Sega video game consoles'' states that: ''More than 3 million units of the “Mega Drive” were sold in Japan.'' (Original Text in Japanese: 『メガドライブ』は日本において300万台以上が販売されました。) | |||
| :::This doesn't prove that Sega didn't round up the Sega Saturn unit sales number but is at least an example form the same source that shows that for one of their other consoles they definitly didn't just round up to the next higher number. ] (]) 12:53, 28 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
| == Mujaheddin == | |||
| Standard offer, I've never received. No, actually I got one for another account, which I don't recall... but TTAAC secured that account's ban shortly afterwards! This is some time ago now, so recollection might be off. --] (]) 20:46, 29 October 2017 (UTC) | |||
| Hello i noticed that you eliminated my modification on the page mujaheddin that says that mujaheddin were NATO allies, they were allies due to intervention of mujaheddin in the gulf war against Saddam Hussein ] (]) 13:08, 17 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
| :{{U|Boackandwhite}}, thank you for reaching out. Please provide a ] for ]. Regards,] (]) 03:49, 18 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
| ::okay i have a pdf about units involved in 1991 gulf war that include mujaheddin i'll use it ] (]) 09:32, 18 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
| :::Since your source does not directly state that NATO is an ally of the mujahideen, your edit failed ] and has been If you disagree, then please provide a page number and quote of the relevant excerpt that verifies the claim. Thank you.] (]) 08:46, 22 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
| == A cup of tea for you! == | |||
| Oops! I just thought of one more thing! Shrike, you'll see I've stayed off Israel–Palestine. My recollection is I got a TBAN for it at some point, but it always got me into trouble, so I've stayed from it anyway. Similarly to most articles on US foreign relations, unless my own shitty country is involved e.g. Yemen. | |||
| Here are some pretty Polki for you, Shrike: | |||
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| Don't you like Polki? 😍😍😍 --] (]) 20:58, 29 October 2017 (UTC) | |||
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| |style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" | thank you sincerely for your contributions!! :) <span style="font-family: century gothic;">]<u> ] </u> • '']]''</span> 22:05, 12 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
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| This is to let you know that I have filed a complaint about you at AN. The specific link is ]. --] (]) 00:09, 27 October 2017 (UTC) | |||
| == Your personal attack == | |||
| I’d like you to stop with your ], like on . I don’t know what your insinuation: " continued blanking of well-sourced content" is referring to, but surely, the accusation being totally vague and coming out of the blue, it's out of line there and a ]. We just try to improve our encyclopedia. I always (try to) motivate my edits. If you disagree with an edit or with its given motivation, or find that motivation too vague or incomprehensible or absent, you can always revert it (ofcourse also with a clear motivation). --] (]) 15:03, 11 November 2017 (UTC) | |||
| :You cannot be serious. If "continued blanking of well-sourced content" counts as a personal attack, even the simplest disagreements between editors will be personal attacks. That is a straightforward explanation of why your edit was reverted. My opinion is that you need to grow a thicker skin. --] (]) 20:42, 12 November 2017 (UTC) | |||
| == Notice that you are now subject to an arbitration enforcement sanction == | |||
| Per ] at the ], you are now subject to the following restrictions: | |||
| * You are banned from interacting with {{noping|Volunteer Marek}} for three months. This is subject to the ] plus you may report violations of this IBAN to the arbitration enforcement noticeboard. You are counselled to not use the exceptions for vandalism and BLP violations except in the most obvious of obvious cases. | |||
| * You are warned to edit collegially. | |||
| ] (]) 10:39, 15 November 2017 (UTC) | |||
| == russian interference == | |||
| Your comments, while constructive, were somewhat assuming of my character, if I am to be perfectly honest. I am a very easy going editor, if you have suggestions, I'm happy to listen, but feel free not to take my edits so personally. ] (]) 00:56, 20 November 2017 (UTC) | |||
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Jan 2023
@TheTimesAreAChanging Hello, its one thing to make valid criticism of an edit, its yet another to make adhominem attacks against other editors like you did here with no regards to Assumimg Good Faith. If you have doubts regarding my WP:NPOV, you are welcome to discuss the edits with Civility and by focusing on the content, so long as you stop making Personal attacks. ~~ shadowwarrior8 (talk) 14:58 28 January 2023
Dreamcast Sales Numbers
Please actually check out the source I posted. Its from Sega of Japans offical Website. It isn't from a press release but from the Dreamcast page in their Hardware History section. They (the page doesn't have an author listed) state that the Dreamcast sold more than 10 million units. Just because someone else once falsly claimed that it sold 10.6 million units, which Sega doesn't even claim just that it sold more than 10 million units, doesn't mean that the 9.13 million sales number is written in stone. The source for the Playstation 2 sales numbers on Misplaced Pages is basically the same thing, a page from the offical Sony Website about their hardware history so I do not understand why this page couldn't be used as a source for the sales numbers of the Sega Dreamcast despite literally being from Sega themselve. 178.27.108.243 (talk) 09:46, 28 November 2024 (UTC)
- Here is the relevant excerpt. The page was released on Novmeber 5, 2018 and is entirely in japanese:
- セガ最後の家庭用ゲーム機『ドリームキャスト』は累計1,000万台あまりが世に送り出されました。
- Which translates to:
- Sega's last home video game console, the Dreamcast, sold a total of more than 10 million units.
- Here is a link to the page as well as a link to an archive of the page from 3 days ago:
- https://www.sega.jp/history/hard/column/column_06.html
- https://web.archive.org/web/20241007020058/https://www.sega.jp/history/hard/column/column_06.html 178.27.108.243 (talk) 09:54, 28 November 2024 (UTC)
- 178.27.108.243, I reviewed the source that you provided; however, it appears to be close to a blog post, and not obviously more reliable than the 9.13 million CESA figure reported in Zackariasson et al. (Routledge, 2012).
- More broadly, what happens on the PlayStation 2 article has no direct bearing on Dreamcast. You are now edit-warring against a prior talk page consensus, complete with a notice not to change the sales figure without consensus.
- If you would like to discuss this further, it may be more productive to do so with the community at Talk:Dreamcast, rather than on my user talk page.TheTimesAreAChanging (talk) 10:11, 28 November 2024 (UTC)
- 178.27.108.243, tangentially, this edit fails verification because the sources do not state that
"Virtua Fighter 2 is the best-selling Sega Saturn game."
Regardless of the truth of the claim, you should be aware that Misplaced Pages has strict sourcing requirements that do not permit editors to engage in original synthesis of reliable sources to reach conclusions not directly supported by the citations provided.TheTimesAreAChanging (talk) 10:28, 28 November 2024 (UTC)- You should change the Misplaced Pages page for Virtua Fighter 2 as well since its state there that: the top-selling game worldwide for the Sega Saturn .
- Can I add Virtua Fighter 2 as the best selling game if I write that it was only the best selling in Japan?
- I wasn't aware of 10.6 million claim nor of the debate about its credibility that happened nearly a decaded ago.
- I however fail to see how that claim and debate means that the Dreamcast section of: The encyclopedia of Sega video game consoles from Sega of Japan's offical website which according to the banner on its index page (found here: https://www.sega.jp/history/hard/index.html) is: based on existing documents/materials at Sega (Original Text in Japanese: セガに現存する資料をもとに、歴代セガハードをご紹介) isn't a crediable source. I doubt that the japanese employee who created those pages used english internet discussions and rumors about console sales numbers as a source.
- Your claim about Sega maybe just rounded up the Saturns unit sales number to 6 million also is just your speculation since you don't provide any proof.
- In the case of the Mega Drive which sold about 3.58 million units according to Famitus the Megad Drive section of: The encyclopedia of Sega video game consoles states that: More than 3 million units of the “Mega Drive” were sold in Japan. (Original Text in Japanese: 『メガドライブ』は日本において300万台以上が販売されました。)
- This doesn't prove that Sega didn't round up the Sega Saturn unit sales number but is at least an example form the same source that shows that for one of their other consoles they definitly didn't just round up to the next higher number. 178.27.108.243 (talk) 12:53, 28 November 2024 (UTC)
Mujaheddin
Hello i noticed that you eliminated my modification on the page mujaheddin that says that mujaheddin were NATO allies, they were allies due to intervention of mujaheddin in the gulf war against Saddam Hussein Boackandwhite (talk) 13:08, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
- Boackandwhite, thank you for reaching out. Please provide a reliable source for verification. Regards,TheTimesAreAChanging (talk) 03:49, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
- okay i have a pdf about units involved in 1991 gulf war that include mujaheddin i'll use it Boackandwhite (talk) 09:32, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
- Since your source does not directly state that NATO is an ally of the mujahideen, your edit failed verification and has been reverted. If you disagree, then please provide a page number and quote of the relevant excerpt that verifies the claim. Thank you.TheTimesAreAChanging (talk) 08:46, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- okay i have a pdf about units involved in 1991 gulf war that include mujaheddin i'll use it Boackandwhite (talk) 09:32, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
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