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==10 tons of organic tomatoes in the basement== |
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{{cot|] —] (]) 03:29, 21 February 2018 (UTC)}} |
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Re the ] statement from http://www.metroweekly.com/2015/04/from-scratch-james-alefantis/ |
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:Like our sauce — we harvest a whole crop of organic tomatoes — 10 tons of tomatoes every year. |
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:Can them all, store them in the basement, have like a harvest party when it gets loaded in. |
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Does anyone know if Alefantis later clarified which building's basement he was talking about in this interview with Doug Rule? Was it a farmhouse / fruit cellar / warehouse associated with Comic Ping Pong which then delivered to them? I've seen this linked up with the "We don't even have a basement" statement from 2016 as if to disprove it but he never actually specifies which building's basement so it seems plausible it could have simply been another location owned by CPP for storing its ingredients? ] (]) 03:20, 21 February 2018 (UTC) |
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:This is not the place to discuss such matters. We’re here to write an encyclopedia article, not to traffic in conspiracy theories. I suggest you try reddit or 4chan instead. —] (]) 03:29, 21 February 2018 (UTC) |
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They are not storing 10 tons of tomatoes. But cooked and jarred pizza sauce. However, many jars 10 tons would get you once it is cooked down. This storage space is the basement of Alefanti's other restaurant Buck's Hunting and Fishing. |
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== Semi-protected edit request on 8 March 2018 == |
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== Semi-protected edit request on 12 August 2024 == |
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{{hat|] for discussing the topic, and we really don't care what TikTok influencers are saying. — <b>]:<sup>]</sup></b> 19:47, 13 August 2024 (UTC)}} |
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As a tiktok influencer pizzagate isn't only limited to people interested in dance moves or BLM if you search #pizzagate on tiktok and view the top and majority of the users profiles talking about it none if them relate to either of those so not sure why that was approved without research with an article like this. ] (]) 12:35, 12 August 2024 (UTC) |
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:Because RS did. ] (]) 12:37, 12 August 2024 (UTC) |
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:] '''Not done:''' it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a ] and provide a ] if appropriate.<!-- Template:ESp --> ] (]) 14:53, 12 August 2024 (UTC) |
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I came to this page while trying to research who Brittany Pettibone is. |
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Under the sub-heading 'Spread on Social Media' this Misplaced Pages page currently states: '...and has been promoted by alt-right activists such as Mike Cernovich, Brittany Pettibone, and Jack Posobiec.' |
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Only the BBC article refers to the "alt-right", and a close reading of both articles makes it hard to justify that each of the three persons named promoted the conspiracy theory. |
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(i) Jack Posobiec is only said to have investigated the conspiracy theory after the 2016 election - and that he found nothing to support them. |
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(ii) Brittany Pettibone is quoted in tweets referring specifically to Tony Podesta's personal art collection (which is not referred to within this Misplaced Pages page), saying that the truth will be "brought to light" by "citizen investigation" and praising Jack Posobiec for investigating the conspiracy theory - even though, according to the WashPo article cited, he found nothing. |
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(iii) Mike Cernovich has a sole tweet quoted, stating that the "story will be huge!" and linking to reddit. |
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Whilst I accept that it is possible that each of the three people named may have "promoted" the specific conspiracy theory detailed within this Misplaced Pages page, I would suggest that the only one against whom a case could be made from the two cited articles is Mike Cernovich, as he is shown to have linked to the relevant reddit. (Calling for an investigation and/or investigating are not of themselves the same as promoting - regardless of one's view of the politics of the individuals concerned.) |
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I would therefore suggest that the names of Brittany Pettibone and Jack Posobiec are either removed from that sentence, or that the allegations against them are supplemented by additional citations (if any are available) that specifically address the allegations made on this Misplaced Pages page. ] (]) 13:31, 8 March 2018 (UTC) |
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:Bullshit, the Washington Post extensively covers Posobiec's statements that "Any story that accused Clinton, John Podesta and Brock of nefarious deeds deserved some investigation" and his subsequent amateur "undercover video" visit to the restaurant. Pettibone tweeted that "the truth being brought to light is inevitable, cited to the BBC. Your assertions are straight-up fraudulent. ] (]) 13:48, 8 March 2018 (UTC) |
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:I started putting together an intelligent response before realizing that this request is so braindead wrong that I agree it should be labeled as complete bullshit. --] (]) 18:08, 8 March 2018 (UTC) |
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== Wired article == |
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--] (]) 00:22, 17 March 2018 (UTC) |
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:..."44 million entries" ...Somehow I don't think my user talk archives are really part of "a priceless resource". Somebody didn't pay attention on their math. ]] 21:46, 26 March 2018 (UTC) |
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== Semi-protected edit request on 18 April 2018 == |
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Remove incorrect reference to "SubjectPolitics." |
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In the "Pizzagate Conspiracy Theory" Misplaced Pages page, there is an incorrect reference to the political blog SubjectPolitics.com, that should be taken out. |
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Under the sub-heading "Genesis," this page currently states "Adl-Tabatabai's story was then spread by and elaborated on by other fake news websites, including SubjectPolitics, which falsely claimed the New York Police Department had raided Hillary Clinton's property." |
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The Buzzfeed article cited doesn't say SubjectPolitics "elaborated on" Adl-Tabatabai's story. Buzzfeed explicitly states that SubjectPolitics made an unrelated claim. |
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Buzzfeed says SubjectPolitics ran a misleading headline about Hillary's "property" being "raided," but clarifies that the SubjectPolitics post was referring to was Hillary's "Property" in the form of her emails on Anthony Weiner's laptop that was seized by the FBI. |
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Here is the Buzzfeed Excerpt: |
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'While many sites simply repeated the details from Adl-Tabatabai, others introduced new, baseless claims. SubjectPolitics.com ran a story with the headline "IT’S OVER: NYPD Just Raided Hillary’s Property! What They Found Will RUIN HER LIFE." Er no, the NYPD did *not* raid property belonging to Hillary Clinton.' |
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'...(The story itself goes on to say that the "property" in question was any emails to or from Clinton that were on Weiner's laptop.)' |
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So Buzzfeed makes no claim that SubjectPolitics "spread" or "elaborated on" the Pizzagate Conspiracy Theory or Adl-Tabatabai's story, as this[REDACTED] page claims. |
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Also, this Misplaced Pages page refers to SubjectPolitics as a "fake news website" when they're typically classified as a right-wing partisan (or hyper-partisan) blog. |
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Media Bias/Fact Check rates SubjectPolitics as an extremely biased, and questionable source, but does not consider the site a "fake news" site. |
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Please change: |
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"The theory was then posted on the message board Godlike Productions. The following day, the story was repeated on YourNewsWire citing a 4chan post from earlier that year. Adl-Tabatabai's story was then spread by and elaborated on by other fake news websites, including SubjectPolitics, which falsely claimed the New York Police Department had raided Hillary Clinton's property. The website Conservative Daily Post ran a headline falsely stating that the Federal Bureau of Investigation had confirmed that story." |
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"The theory was then posted on the message board Godlike Productions. The following day, the story was repeated on YourNewsWire citing a 4chan post from earlier that year. The website Conservative Daily Post ran a headline falsely stating that the Federal Bureau of Investigation had confirmed that story." |
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] (]) 06:02, 18 April 2018 (UTC) |
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:{{partially done}} I agree that some of this content wasn't supported by the source, so I removed it accordingly. However SubjectPolitics.com did in fact spread and elaborate on Adl-Tabatabai's story. See for yourself, 's an archive of the SubjectPolitics.com story. --] (]) 06:25, 18 April 2018 (UTC) |
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== origins of phrase "cheese pizza" == |
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== Welch was killed == |
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Suggestion is to remove this sentence and replace it a more authoritative source |
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According to a report on CNN, Welch was killed yesterday, see |
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https://edition.cnn.com/2025/01/09/politics/pizzagate-gunman-killed-police-shooting/index.html?iid=cnn_buildContentRecirc_end_recirc --] (]) 14:55, 10 January 2025 (UTC) |
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For example, The New York Times reported that the phrase "cheese pizza" was thought by a poster to 4chan to be a code word for child pornography since they had the same initials. |
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:And what has this death to do with Pizzagate? ] (]) 14:57, 10 January 2025 (UTC) |
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::He's the dude who wandered in with a gun and demanded to see the basement of a place that had no basement. ]] 15:10, 10 January 2025 (UTC) |
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:::Yes, but what has his killing got to do with it, how is the killing related? ] (]) 15:34, 10 January 2025 (UTC) |
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::::He was the perpetrator of the entire Comet Ping Pong pizza shop hostage situation, so I'd say his death is relevant. — <b>]:<sup>]</sup></b> 15:52, 10 January 2025 (UTC) |
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::::I'm unsure what your revert has to do with it being "unrelated." I added a preamble "Eight years after the initial incident at Comet Ping Pong, ..." because I wanted to make clear the temporal distance from the original gun discharge event. This seems to me important as someone skim reading could carry away the impression that Welch was shot in the restaurant. All the best: ''] ]''<small> 18:17, 10 January 2025 (UTC).</small><br /> |
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:::::Because his shooting was not related to pizzagate, but to an unrelated offense. It literally tells us nothing about this conspiracy theory. THis page is not about him. ] (]) 18:21, 10 January 2025 (UTC) |
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::::::OK, turns out you made two reverts, one of which was a shotgun revert of my changes. The second one was to remove all reference to his death. The bulk of your reverts has been reverted. Since you are only concerned with presence of a discussion of his death on this page, I will reinstate my other changes. In a separate edit I will reinstate the "eight years" contextualization, which, if anything, should make the text more palatable to you. Please do not make any more shotgun reverts. |
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::::::I '''support''' having a sentence about his death on this page. I suspect it should not be where it is, maybe I'll move it, maybe I won't. |
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::::::All the best: ''] ]''<small> 19:24, 10 January 2025 (UTC).</small> |
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::::::He is one of the most notable Pizzagate individuals due to his actions at Comet Ping Pong. His death, after a string of ''further'' convictions & parole violations, seems relevant to this page. — <b>]:<sup>]</sup></b> 19:25, 10 January 2025 (UTC) |
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The term "CP" had long been in use on boards like 4chan to refer to '''C'''hild '''P'''ornography. Users would request that other users "Post CP." Later users began to parody this, by posting pictures of other different CP's like Captain Picard or Cheese Pizza. <ref>{{cite web|title=Post CP|url=http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/post-cp|website=KnowYourMeme.com}}</ref> Note: the phrase "cheese pizza" is not used at all in the Podesta emails. <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 14:00, 23 April 2018</small> |
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Welch's death by police is described twice with the same details in the "Criminal Responses" - once at the end of the fourth paragraph and once in the newly-created final paragraph. Please remove one. <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 21:43, 10 January 2025 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:{{not done}} We use ]. The New York Times is reliable. Know Your Meme is not, since its content is largely ]. --] (]) 22:31, 23 April 2018 (UTC) |
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:The two mentions of his shooting death do not agree on the date. And the first says that he was shot and killed, but then says he did not die until two days later. ] (]) 17:31, 22 January 2025 (UTC) |
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::He was shot, taken to the hospital, and died later, per sources. I've removed the redundant paragraph & moved the relevant cite to the later paragraph. — <b>]:<sup>]</sup></b> 14:32, 23 January 2025 (UTC) |
Welch's death by police is described twice with the same details in the "Criminal Responses" - once at the end of the fourth paragraph and once in the newly-created final paragraph. Please remove one. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.193.204.66 (talk) 21:43, 10 January 2025 (UTC)