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==== NEW NOMINATIONS ==== ==== Category:Foo language writers ====
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===== Category:Bengali language writers =====
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Not clear why this is necessary or desirable, and the nomination says it's supposed to be renamed. I'll withhold my vote until I see a clear argument for why the deletion is proposed. --] 00:39, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
:The arguments are below. This is a rename for an entire class of categories. They are all listed separately so that they will properly link from the cfr tag. -- ] 01:28, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

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===== Category:Yiddish writers =====
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*'''Rename'''. All of these category should be renamed to follow the same naming convention. They should all be "fooish-language writers". Without the dash, it might mean that they are language writers who are fooish instead of writers in the fooish language. I am not nominating the categories where "fooish" could mean either a language or a nationality. That is a bigger problem. ] 20:51, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
*'''Rename'''. I do not believe Yiddish is a nationality but instead an ethnicity. The controvercy can get bigger if you look at it that way. --<small>] ]</small> 21:34, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
*'''Rename all''' per nom. ] 14:19, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
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:'''''Merge''' into ], no need to divide current / former members. -- <i>] <sup>]</sup></i> 18:13, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
*'''Merge''' per nom. ] 18:18, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
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:'''''Delete''', a category created as advertising for .'' -- <i>] <sup>]</sup></i> 17:19, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' per nom. ] 18:14, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' It no longer advertises aarsha.com, but it has nothing to do with ''handmade'' wedding stationery either. There are currently only three members of the category - wedding invitation, wedding stationery (which probably ought to be merged with wedding invitation) and cardmaking, the first two don't really mention making by hand, and the latter doesn't mention wedding stationery. I don't see and encyclopedic value to this category with our current articles (and I'm having a hard time thinking how it could be useful even if our articles were different). --] 22:53, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' per SiobhanHansa, useless. ] 01:50, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
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:Proposed '''rename''' to ].
This category currently contains 2 articles and 1 sub-category. I'd like its scope expanded to cover "species" instead of just "animals", this would allow for Introduced plants to be included in this new category. There isn't currently a volume of specific introduced animal-articles to warrant a seperate category for them, as per the current contents of this category. Moreover, the primary article of this category is ]. ] 17:08, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
*'''Rename''', as being an animal is entirely unimportant. It's being introduced that is what matters. -] <small><sup>]</sup><sub>]</sub></small> 17:10, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
*'''Rename''' per nom. --- ] 00:00, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
*'''Rename''' per nom. ] 01:47, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
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:'''''Delete''', or create ], yet another categorization by trivia.'' -- <i>] <sup>]</sup></i> 16:38, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
*'''Delete''', trivia. (]) 12:24, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' per nom. ] 17:48, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
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==== Category:2008 by country ====
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{{lc|2008 by country}}<br/>
'''Delete''' - Is there a custom of creating this sort of category several years in advance? There are similar categories for 2009, 2010 and 2011, either with no articles or articles consisting of single sentence articles along the lines of ] which in its entirety reads "The Mumbai Urban Transport Project is expected to be completed." If this cat is deleted then the '09, '10 and '11 cats along with probably all of the articles contained within them should go as well but I didn't want to nominate all of them if this sort of future cat is standard. ] 16:18, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
*'''Keep''', since large events are often scheduled years in advance. See for example ], ]. -- <i>] <sup>]</sup></i> 16:49, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
*'''Keep''' per ] ] 18:18, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
*'''Keep''' per Provelt. ] 22:49, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
*'''Keep''' There is a policy somewhere that states that articles about future events may be kept if there is verifiable information about that particular staging, eg the 2010 Winter Olympic article can be kept because lots of info exists about the seletion process, venues etc, but the 2030 Winter Olympic article should not be because nothing can be said about it except that it will happen if the current four-yearly cycle is maintained. ] 14:22, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
*'''Keep''' There's nothing wrong with having articles about future planned events provided the information is verifiable. And it makes sense to categorize such articles using future dated categories. ] 16:48, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
*'''Keep''' per discussion above. As long as these forward-looking categories are not used for speculation, they seem useful, though some of the articles may deserve review as the nomninator suggests. --] <sup>] • (])</sup> 13:32, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
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==== More songs ====
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Per other subcategories of ].--] 15:49, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
*'''Rename''' per nom. I speedied the first one as non-controversial (I was the creator). ] | ] 16:50, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
*'''Rename''' per ] discussion.'' -- <i>] <sup>]</sup></i> 18:15, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
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:'''''Delete''', orphaned by ] discussion.'' -- <i>] <sup>]</sup></i> 15:19, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' per nom. ] 18:18, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
*'''Speedy delete''' per nom and per points raised by fathers dicussion. I would also suggest mothers, comic book mothers and grandmothers be nominated for deletion. ~]<sup>]</sup> 18:31, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
:*'''Note''' that ] and all of its children (heh) are . ] 20:58, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
:**There's no tag on '']'' -- <i>] <sup>]</sup></i> 03:19, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' excessively inclusive category per precedents. ] 07:26, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
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==== Category:Movies and Shows based on Marvel ====
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{{lc|Movies and Shows based on Marvel}}<br/>
'''Delete''', We have a Marvel films category, and we have a Marvel shows/Made-for-TV template and list. We do NOT need some crazy, mis-filled hybrid. ] 14:47, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' per nom. --] (]) 16:58, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' per nom. ] 18:18, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
*'''Speedy delete''', empty duplicate. ~]<sup>]</sup> 18:32, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' underpopulated, poorly named, inaccurately capitalized category. ] 07:25, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
*'''Delete'''- Unnecessary category, and there's already a better Marvel category.--<span style="font-family:comic sans ms;">]</span> 05:10, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
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:'''''Delete''', or '''Rename''' to ], create ].'' -- <i>] <sup>]</sup></i> 14:17, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
*If kept, '''Rename''' to ] to match article ] and to prevent people from thinking it's a category for actors who aren't very nice. ] 15:28, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' categorising musical theatre actors by each musical they have been in is a waste of time. Just list the musicals in each actor's article, as it done for film actors. ] 18:18, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
*'''Keep''', but rename, as I did think of the ambiguity of the title when I was creating it. With this particular category, the ] article can be shortened greatly, removing all of the "Replacement Histories." --] 19:50, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
*'''Strong Delete'''. This came up in previous CFDs where it was decided not not have any category of stage actors by play. This is similar to the decsion about not categorizing actors by film. This information can be presented in lists, which would not clutter up articles with categories. Actors have dozens or even hundreds of roles that they perform in. Please see ] for a proposal to define examples of overcategorizations such as this one. -- ] 20:02, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' per above, and break the cast lists out into a separate article if desired per cat creator. In fact, I'll just be bold and do that now. ] 20:17, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
:*See ]. ] 20:43, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
*Although there are many other TV show actor categories. Why delete stage categories and keep TV categories? Stage shows do not have ONE cast if they've been running for a long time...shows like ''Phantom of the Opera'', ''Rent'', and one with a large amount of satellite productions like ''Wicked''. I say we delete the ''Wicked'' category, but keep ones that do not have the casting history defined in the article. --] 22:02, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
:*First, that TV cast categories exist is not a justification for creating Broadway cast categories. Second, the actor by series categories are being even as we speak. Finally, you've indicated you created the category with the goal of shortening the ''Wicked'' article by getting the cast information out of it. The way to accomplish that is to edit the article to remove the information, not create a category. There is now an article for the casts and the article is shortened by some 20% as a result. ] 22:19, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
*'''Strong delete''' as an unwelcome precedent. The TV categories could go as well. ] 14:23, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' just like the categories on actors-by-film. (]) 12:24, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
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==== CVG importance categories ==== ==== CVG importance categories ====
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*'''Rename''', Per the WP biography change, the {{tl|cvgproj}} header now states "###-priority" instead of "###-importance." In accordence, the categories should also be renamed as well. ] 06:51, 26 November 2006 (UTC) *'''Rename''', Per the WP biography change, the {{tl|cvgproj}} header now states "###-priority" instead of "###-importance." In accordence, the categories should also be renamed as well. ] 06:51, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
*'''Speedy Rename all''' - ] 18:45, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
*'''Speedy Rename All''' --] 21:52, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
*'''Rename''' Per above. <strong>]</strong> ]/]/]/) 07:22, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' why are we categorising articles by a subjective measure such as "importance" or "priority"? These categories may be useful for those involved in ], but I don't like terms such as "important" or "priority" creeping into category names in mainspace. ---] <sup>] • (])</sup> 13:28, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
**The priority bit is for ]. These categories only exist in talk pages, so the namespace is not being infected with such POV categories. ] 23:15, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
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====Category:Biblical women in ancient warfare==== ====Category:Biblical women in ancient warfare====
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The result of the debate was {{{1|}}} '''no consensus''' (although (1) perhaps better as a list; (2) "ancient" seems superfluous). ] <span style="font-size:90%;">]</span> 13:09, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
{{lc|Biblical women in ancient warfare}}<br/> {{lc|Biblical women in ancient warfare}}<br/>
This category contains a mere three people, and is unlikely to expand, as there are only three women directly involved in warfare in the bible. ] 06:39, 26 November 2006 (UTC) This category contains a mere three people, and is unlikely to expand, as there are only three women directly involved in warfare in the bible. ] 06:39, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' underpopulated category. ] 08:43, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
*'''Comment''': despite being permanently underpopulated, these would seem to provide some browsing value as part of the ] tree. -- ] 11:13, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
*'''Comment''': as well as some value as a sub-cat of ] - military women are an interesting (though perhaps minor) theme within the Old Testament. ] - ] 10:35, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
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====Category:Legendary British women in ancient warfare==== ====Category:Legendary British women in ancient warfare====
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{{lc|Legendary British women in ancient warfare}}<br/> {{lc|Legendary British women in ancient warfare}}<br/>
Contains only two women, and there are no other British women involved in ancient warfare in the legendary history of Britain. ] 06:39, 26 November 2006 (UTC) Contains only two women, and there are no other British women involved in ancient warfare in the legendary history of Britain. ] 06:39, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' underpopulated category. ] 08:39, 26 November 2006 (UTC) *'''Delete''' underpopulated category. ] 08:39, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
*'''Delete.''' Two members is not sufficient for a category. ] 01:53, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' If deleted I hope these will be placed in ].--] 08:41, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
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====Category:Women in ancient Japanese warfare==== ====Category:Women in ancient Japanese warfare====
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The result of the debate was {{{1|}}} '''delete'''. Re recategorisation, the two articles it contained already seem well-categorized. ] <span style="font-size:90%;">]</span> 13:13, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

{{lc|Women in ancient Japanese warfare}}<br/> {{lc|Women in ancient Japanese warfare}}<br/>
Contains only one person, and is unlikely to expand as I have found no other Japanese women in ancient warfare in my research. ] 06:39, 26 November 2006 (UTC) Contains only one person, and is unlikely to expand as I have found no other Japanese women in ancient warfare in my research. ] 06:39, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' underpopulated category. ] 08:43, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' If deleted I hope these will be placed in ].--] 08:41, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
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==== Category:Footballers who died tragically young ==== ==== Category:Footballers who died tragically young ====
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The result of the debate was {{{1|}}} '''delete''' Perhaps someone might create ]? --] &#9836; ] 15:59, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

*<small>This discussion has been included in ]'s list of football (soccer) related deletions. ] 06:11, 26 November 2006 (UTC)</small> *<small>This discussion has been included in ]'s list of football (soccer) related deletions. ] 06:11, 26 November 2006 (UTC)</small>
{{lc|Footballers who died tragically young}}<br/> {{lc|Footballers who died tragically young}}<br/>
NPOV, unencyclopedic ] 04:15, 26 November 2006 (UTC) NPOV, unencyclopedic ] 04:15, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
: '''Rename ''' As the creator of the original category, I feel that it has a relevance and should be retained. The only POV is the use of the word ''tragically'' so perhaps the category should be renamed to ]. : '''Rename ''' As the creator of the original category, I feel that it has a relevance and should be retained. The only POV is the use of the word ''tragically'' so perhaps the category should be renamed to ].] 05:51, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
*Though I for one believe that ] could have been one of the greatest players of all time, I agree that this category is a bad idea. No category should have a name containing the word "tragically", to start with. '''Delete'''. ]...'']'' 05:57, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
] 05:51, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
::Well, it's necessary in the case of ]. But yeah, I know what you meant. ] 01:59, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
*Though I for one believe that ] could have been one of the greatest players of all time, I agree that this category is a bad idea. No category should have a name containing the word "tragically", to start with. '''Delete'''. ]...''<small><font color="#008822">]</font></small>'' 05:57, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
:::Good point :) ]...'']'' 07:47, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
*'''Delete'''. It's POV as it is, and any renaming to under a certain age makes it an arbitrary grouping. -] <small><sup>]</sup><sub>]</sub></small> 06:33, 26 November 2006 (UTC) *'''Delete'''. It's POV as it is, and any renaming to under a certain age makes it an arbitrary grouping. -] <small><sup>]</sup><sub>]</sub></small> 06:33, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' "Tragically" invokes POV. "Young" is inappropriately defined and also invokes POV. (Exactly what proportion of footballers are over 40, eh?) ] 08:39, 26 November 2006 (UTC) *'''Delete''' "Tragically" invokes POV. "Young" is inappropriately defined and also invokes POV. (Exactly what proportion of footballers are over 40, eh?) ] 08:39, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
::I think both your objections are covered by my proposal to rename the article. By the age of 40 most football (soccer if you prefer) players have retired, so any age limit over 40 would be inappropriate. What I was trying to achieve was a category for footballers who died before their playing career was over.] 09:04, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
*'''Strong delete''' not only POV but unnecessarily mawkish. I see little point in renaming to renaming it to an arbitrary "under 40" limit either. ] 12:16, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
*'''Delete'''. The current title is thoroughly POV, but Daemonic Kangaroo's proposal to rename it to ] is arbitrary, and I suggest not a very noteworthy attribute, since most will have retired by then. --] <sup>] • (])</sup>
*'''Delete''' POV category. ] 18:18, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' - though I still favour deletion, one possible way around the POV issues would be "... who died during their playing careers". ]...'']'' 05:08, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
**'''Comment''' Yes, that does get round the POV and arbitrariness issues. Is there a precedent for this sort of thing? For example, there is a {{cl|Politicians who committed suicide}}, but no {{cl|Politicians who died in office}}. --] <sup>] • (])</sup> 13:23, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' per lack of enciclopedicity, and ''tragically young'' sounds a bit inappropriate --] 17:35, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' due to the implicit POV and arbitrary parameters already stated. '''Suggestion''': Something along the lines of ''"Footballers who died while active"'' might be useful. --] 08:06, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
*'''Rename''' as per ChaChaFut ] 14:44, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
*The idea of a category for players who died during their active careers strikes me as a better one than some arbitrary POV criterion. What constitutes "tragically young"? 21? 30? 40? 45? ] 01:59, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
*The words "tragically young" are subjective. I suggest changing it to "Footballers who died during their playing careers". ] 23:39, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
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==== Category:Native American women ==== ==== Category:Native American women ====
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The result of the debate was {{{1|}}} '''delete'''. --] &#9836; ] 16:04, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

{{lc|Native American women}}<br/> {{lc|Native American women}}<br/>
For a Native American to be a woman is not the sort of remarkable achievement that merits breaching the policy against categorizing by gender, indeed more than half of Native Americans accomplish it. This should go the same way as ]. There is already a list. ] 02:49, 26 November 2006 (UTC) For a Native American to be a woman is not the sort of remarkable achievement that merits breaching the policy against categorizing by gender, indeed more than half of Native Americans accomplish it. This should go the same way as ]. There is already a list. ] 02:49, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
*'''Aaaaargh! There is NO policy against categorizing by sex!''' It is a '''guideline''', not a policy. Not meaning to be all uncivil and junk, and not meaning to make you take the brunt of this except you happen to be the one who nominated this cat, but ] is a series of '''guidelines''', not a policy. ] is a '''guideline''', not a policy. I really wish that you and every other editor who nominates sex-based categories by referencing the "policy" against it would figure out the difference between a policy and a guideline. *'''Aaaaargh! There is NO policy against categorizing by sex!''' It is a '''guideline''', not a policy. Not meaning to be all uncivil and junk, and not meaning to make you take the brunt of this except you happen to be the one who nominated this cat, but ] is a series of '''guidelines''', not a policy. ] is a '''guideline''', not a policy. I really wish that you and every other editor who nominates sex-based categories by referencing the "policy" against it would figure out the difference between a policy and a guideline.
*That all being said, '''Delete''' because the cat does not satisfy the '''guideline''' regarding sex-based classifications. ] 04:33, 26 November 2006 (UTC) :That all being said, '''Delete''' because the cat does not satisfy the '''guideline''' regarding sex-based classifications. ] 04:33, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' per above, although it should be a policy. -] <small><sup>]</sup><sub>]</sub></small> 06:34, 26 November 2006 (UTC) *'''Delete''' per above, although it should be a policy. -] <small><sup>]</sup><sub>]</sub></small> 06:34, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' per the relevant guideline: ] -- ] 07:30, 26 November 2006 (UTC) *'''Delete''' per the relevant guideline: ] -- ] 07:30, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' per guideline and many, many precedents. ] 08:42, 26 November 2006 (UTC) *'''Delete''' per guideline and many, many precedents. ] 08:42, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' per nom. ] 18:18, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
*'''Strong Keep''' The category is very useful for finding American Indian Women on Misplaced Pages. I think the category should be expanded. ] 19:11, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' Because we don't seem to be dividing other ethnic groups by gender. Expanding coverage on American Indian women, I rarely hear "Native American" anymore but whatever, is a noble goal but not really one a category can do. Although in a bid of paradoxicality I would support keeping ] for historical reasons. (Women warriors are traditionally seen in a different light than male warriors in most tribal nations)--] 08:38, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
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==== Category:Impressionist entertainers ==== ==== Category:Impressionist entertainers ====
==== Category:American impressionists ==== ==== Category:American impressionists ====
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The result of the debate was {{{1|}}} '''rename both'''. --] &#9836; ] 16:06, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

] to ]<br> ] to ]<br>
] to ] ] to ]
*'''Rename''', Your reason(s) for the proposed rename. ] 02:39, 26 November 2006 (UTC) *'''Rename''', Your reason(s) for the proposed rename. ] 02:39, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
The parent category requires a name that disambiguates it from ], but the present one makes me do a double take. The subcategory should then follow the parent. ] 02:39, 26 November 2006 (UTC) The parent category requires a name that disambiguates it from ], but the present one makes me do a double take. The subcategory should then follow the parent. ] 02:39, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
*'''Rename''' to ] and ] respectively. ]...''<small><font color="#008822">]</font></small>'' 06:01, 26 November 2006 (UTC) *'''Rename''' to ] and ] respectively. ]...'']'' 06:01, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
*'''Rename''' per nom. "Impersonators" is a broader and different word. ] 08:41, 26 November 2006 (UTC) *'''Rename''' per nom. "Impersonators" is a broader and different word. ] 08:41, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
*'''Rename''' per nom. "Impressionists" is the broader and I think the more used term. ] 18:18, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
*'''Suggest''' ] or ] and ] or ] as possible alternatives because I'm not a big fan of parentheticals in category titles, but I'm not feeling strongly either direction.
*I was gonna close this by smarting off to the effect of I probably wouldn't use the categories myself because if i needed to look up Fred Travalena I'd know where to find him, and was amazed to discover ]. Wow. ] 05:26, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
*'''Rename''' per nom. ] 01:47, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
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Category:Foo language writers

Category:Arabic language writers
Category:Bengali language writers
Category:French language writers
Category:German language writers
Category:Hebrew writers
Category:Hindi writers
Category:Kurdish writers
Category:Occitan writers
Category:Riksmål writers

Not clear why this is necessary or desirable, and the nomination says it's supposed to be renamed. I'll withhold my vote until I see a clear argument for why the deletion is proposed. --Leifern 00:39, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

The arguments are below. This is a rename for an entire class of categories. They are all listed separately so that they will properly link from the cfr tag. -- Samuel Wantman 01:28, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
Category:Sami writers
Category:Sindhi writers
Category:Spanish language writers
Category:Swedish language writers
Category:Tagalog language writers
Category:Tamil writers
Category:Urdu writers
Category:Yiddish writers
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The result of the debate was rename all. --RobertG ♬ talk 15:51, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Category:Arabic language writers to Category:Arabic-language writers

Category:Bengali language writers to Category:Bengali-language writers

Category:French language writers to Category:French-language writers

Category:German language writers to Category:German-language writers

Category:Hebrew writers to Category:Hebrew-language writers

Category:Hindi writers to Category:Hindi-language writers

Category:Kurdish writers to Category:Kurdish-language writers

Category:Occitan writers to Category:Occitan-language writers

Category:Riksmål writers to Category:Riksmål-language writers

Category:Sami writers to Category:Sami-language writers

Category:Sindhi writers to Category:Sindhi-language writers

Category:Spanish language writers to Category:Spanish-language writers

Category:Swedish language writers to Category:Swedish-language writers

Category:Tagalog language writers to Category:Tagalog-language writers

Category:Tamil writers to Category:Tamil-language writers

Category:Urdu writers to Category:Urdu-language writers

Category:Yiddish writers to Category:Yiddish-language writers

  • Rename. All of these category should be renamed to follow the same naming convention. They should all be "fooish-language writers". Without the dash, it might mean that they are language writers who are fooish instead of writers in the fooish language. I am not nominating the categories where "fooish" could mean either a language or a nationality. That is a bigger problem. Samuel Wantman 20:51, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
  • Rename. I do not believe Yiddish is a nationality but instead an ethnicity. The controvercy can get bigger if you look at it that way. --Cat out 21:34, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
  • Rename all per nom. Choalbaton 14:19, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
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Category:Howard Hughes Medical Investigator Alumni

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The result of the debate was merge per nom. David Kernow (talk) 13:01, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

Merge into Category:Howard Hughes Medical Investigators, no need to divide current / former members. -- ProveIt 18:13, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
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Category:Handmade Wedding Stationery

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The result of the debate was delete. --RobertG ♬ talk 15:52, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Delete, a category created as advertising for www.aarsha.com. -- ProveIt 17:19, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete per nom. Hoylake 18:14, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete It no longer advertises aarsha.com, but it has nothing to do with handmade wedding stationery either. There are currently only three members of the category - wedding invitation, wedding stationery (which probably ought to be merged with wedding invitation) and cardmaking, the first two don't really mention making by hand, and the latter doesn't mention wedding stationery. I don't see and encyclopedic value to this category with our current articles (and I'm having a hard time thinking how it could be useful even if our articles were different). --Siobhan Hansa 22:53, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete per SiobhanHansa, useless. Herostratus 01:50, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
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Category:Introduced animals

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The result of the debate was rename per nom. David Kernow (talk) 13:02, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

Proposed rename to Category:Introduced species.

This category currently contains 2 articles and 1 sub-category. I'd like its scope expanded to cover "species" instead of just "animals", this would allow for Introduced plants to be included in this new category. There isn't currently a volume of specific introduced animal-articles to warrant a seperate category for them, as per the current contents of this category. Moreover, the primary article of this category is introduced species. Kurieeto 17:08, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

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Category:Games featuring Totaka's song

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The result of the debate was delete. --RobertG ♬ talk 15:53, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Delete, or create Category:Video games by easter egg, yet another categorization by trivia. -- ProveIt 16:38, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
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Category:2008 by country

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The result of the debate was keep. David Kernow (talk) 13:03, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

Category:2008 by country (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Delete - Is there a custom of creating this sort of category several years in advance? There are similar categories for 2009, 2010 and 2011, either with no articles or articles consisting of single sentence articles along the lines of 2008 in India which in its entirety reads "The Mumbai Urban Transport Project is expected to be completed." If this cat is deleted then the '09, '10 and '11 cats along with probably all of the articles contained within them should go as well but I didn't want to nominate all of them if this sort of future cat is standard. Otto4711 16:18, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

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More songs

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The result of the debate was rename per nom. David Kernow (talk) 13:05, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

Per other subcategories of category:Songs by artist.--Mike Selinker 15:49, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

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Category:Fictional grandfathers

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The result of the debate was deleted by RobertG. Whispering 00:34, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Delete, orphaned by November 17th discussion. -- ProveIt 15:19, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
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Category:Movies and Shows based on Marvel

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The result of the debate was delete. the wub "?!" 13:21, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
Category:Movies and Shows based on Marvel (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Delete, We have a Marvel films category, and we have a Marvel shows/Made-for-TV template and list. We do NOT need some crazy, mis-filled hybrid. ThuranX 14:47, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

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Category:"Wicked" Actors

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The result of the debate was delete. --RobertG ♬ talk 15:56, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Delete, or Rename to Category:Wicked actors, create Category:Stage actors by play. -- ProveIt 14:17, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
  • Although there are many other TV show actor categories. Why delete stage categories and keep TV categories? Stage shows do not have ONE cast if they've been running for a long time...shows like Phantom of the Opera, Rent, and one with a large amount of satellite productions like Wicked. I say we delete the Wicked category, but keep ones that do not have the casting history defined in the article. --Conor 22:02, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
  • First, that TV cast categories exist is not a justification for creating Broadway cast categories. Second, the actor by series categories are being rethought even as we speak. Finally, you've indicated you created the category with the goal of shortening the Wicked article by getting the cast information out of it. The way to accomplish that is to edit the article to remove the information, not create a category. There is now an article for the casts and the article is shortened by some 20% as a result. Otto4711 22:19, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
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CVG importance categories

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The result of the debate was rename all. David Kernow (talk) 13:06, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

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Category:Biblical women in ancient warfare

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The result of the debate was no consensus (although (1) perhaps better as a list; (2) "ancient" seems superfluous). David Kernow (talk) 13:09, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

Category:Biblical women in ancient warfare (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
This category contains a mere three people, and is unlikely to expand, as there are only three women directly involved in warfare in the bible. Asarelah 06:39, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

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Category:Legendary British women in ancient warfare

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The result of the debate was delete, after moving articles per T. Anthony. --RobertG ♬ talk 12:00, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Category:Legendary British women in ancient warfare (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Contains only two women, and there are no other British women involved in ancient warfare in the legendary history of Britain. Asarelah 06:39, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

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Category:Women in ancient Japanese warfare

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The result of the debate was delete. Re recategorisation, the two articles it contained already seem well-categorized. David Kernow (talk) 13:13, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

Category:Women in ancient Japanese warfare (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Contains only one person, and is unlikely to expand as I have found no other Japanese women in ancient warfare in my research. Asarelah 06:39, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

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Category:Footballers who died tragically young

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The result of the debate was delete Perhaps someone might create Category:Footballers who died before retiring? --RobertG ♬ talk 15:59, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Category:Footballers who died tragically young (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
NPOV, unencyclopedic 69.209.113.141 04:15, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

Rename As the creator of the original category, I feel that it has a relevance and should be retained. The only POV is the use of the word tragically so perhaps the category should be renamed to Category:Footballers who died under 40.Daemonic Kangaroo 05:51, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
  • Though I for one believe that Duncan Edwards could have been one of the greatest players of all time, I agree that this category is a bad idea. No category should have a name containing the word "tragically", to start with. Delete. Grutness...wha? 05:57, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
Well, it's necessary in the case of Category:The Tragically Hip albums. But yeah, I know what you meant. Bearcat 01:59, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
Good point :) Grutness...wha? 07:47, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
I think both your objections are covered by my proposal to rename the article. By the age of 40 most football (soccer if you prefer) players have retired, so any age limit over 40 would be inappropriate. What I was trying to achieve was a category for footballers who died before their playing career was over.Daemonic Kangaroo 09:04, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
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Category:Native American women

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The result of the debate was delete. --RobertG ♬ talk 16:04, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Category:Native American women (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
For a Native American to be a woman is not the sort of remarkable achievement that merits breaching the policy against categorizing by gender, indeed more than half of Native Americans accomplish it. This should go the same way as Category:American women. There is already a list. Sumahoy 02:49, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

  • Aaaaargh! There is NO policy against categorizing by sex! It is a guideline, not a policy. Not meaning to be all uncivil and junk, and not meaning to make you take the brunt of this except you happen to be the one who nominated this cat, but Misplaced Pages:Naming conventions (categories) is a series of guidelines, not a policy. Misplaced Pages:Categorization of people is a guideline, not a policy. I really wish that you and every other editor who nominates sex-based categories by referencing the "policy" against it would figure out the difference between a policy and a guideline.
That all being said, Delete because the cat does not satisfy the guideline regarding sex-based classifications. Otto4711 04:33, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
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Category:Impressionist entertainers

Category:American impressionists

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The result of the debate was rename both. --RobertG ♬ talk 16:06, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Category:Impressionist entertainers to Category:Impressionists (entertainers)
Category:American impressionists to Category:American impressionists (entertainers)

The parent category requires a name that disambiguates it from Category:Impressionist artists, but the present one makes me do a double take. The subcategory should then follow the parent. Sumahoy 02:39, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

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