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{{Refideas|1={{cite journal |last1=Delamorclaz Ruiz |first1=Carolina |title=LGBTI y feminismo en animación televisiva: una reinterpretación de Steven Universe y Sailor Moon |journal=Con A de animación |date=2018 |volume=8 |pages=164-177 |doi=10.4995/caa.2018.9655 |language=Spanish}}|2={{cite journal|last1=Dunn|first1=Eli|title=Steven Universe, Fusion Magic, and the Queer Cartoon Carnivalesque|journal=Gender Forum|date=2016|volume=56|pages=44–57|url=http://genderforum.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/201512TransgenderIsssue.pdf#page=47}} |
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== Semi-protected edit request on 24 July 2022 == |
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==New Soundtrack Article== |
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I noticed my soundtrack contribution was reverted with the implication that it would be better suited to its own article. I think that makes sense since the soundtrack is certainly relevant considering how much it charted and sold. What are everyone else's thoughts? <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) </small> |
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*That would be nice! (Alternatively, it could be held at "]", and include Soundtracks 1 and 2.) <small>] (])</small> 16:02, 11 September 2019 (UTC) |
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== Peabody Award date == |
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The Peabody Award was awarded in 2019, but the Peabody Awards website describes it as a “2018 Winner”. What date should we list it under in this article? ] (]) 23:33, 18 April 2019 (UTC) |
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:”The Peabody Board of Jurors revealed today nine Entertainment winners and a Children’s winner for programs released in 2018.” -- ] (]) 00:25, 19 April 2019 (UTC) |
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== Semi-protected edit request on 26 July 2019 == |
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this show airs in 480I not 1080p ] (]) 19:04, 26 July 2019 (UTC) |
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I would like to include ] in the ] section. ] (]) 07:35, 8 January 2023 (UTC) |
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:Done. --] (]) 15:45, 8 January 2023 (UTC) |
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:] '''Not done:''' it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a ] if appropriate.<!-- Template:ESp --> Also please provide a reliable source to support your statement. ]] 21:34, 26 July 2019 (UTC) |
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== Series concluded in 2019 == |
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== Article Neutrality and "Good Article" status == |
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The all series was concluded on September 2, 2019. <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 04:33, 5 September 2019 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:{{not done}} Provide a reliable source. -- <span style="text-shadow:0 0 1px #8dd">''/]/]''</span> 06:10, 5 September 2019 (UTC) |
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I do not believe that this article meets the standards necessary to be considered a neutrally-written article, nor one that can, without doubt, maintain the "good article" status as a result. |
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== Semi-protected edit request on 11 September 2019 == |
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The main issue is the lack of substantial criticism towards the show. The article's sources are consistently those that show praise for the show or focus on objective elements within it, leaving out relevant viewpoints. As it stands, the article's only mentions of criticism are points about the release schedule. |
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Should made by the TV Guide staff be included in the "Critical reception"? ] (]) 12:18, 11 September 2019 (UTC) |
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Misplaced Pages requires "all majority and significant minority views". As is, I do not believe this requirement is met. |
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:Done. ] (]) 14:20, 11 September 2019 (UTC) |
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I have included articles to express at least one area of additional criticism. |
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== New series == |
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Looks like the show is returning for a limited run under the title "Steven Universe Future". --] (]) 16:21, 4 October 2019 (UTC) |
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:We know--] (]) 16:42, 4 October 2019 (UTC) |
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::One of the writers, Ian JQ said this isn't a Season 6 but a separate series. ] (]) 17:52, 4 October 2019 (UTC) |
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] (]) 21:17, 20 April 2023 (UTC) |
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:I would say the article DOES meet the Good article status and IS neutral. I'd add that the "Reception" section is pretty robust at this point (its a LOT more robust than many other similar animated shows). At the same time, I'd be ok with all three of those sources being added to this article, as they appear to be reliable sources. In terms of the "lack of substantial criticism towards the show". Some criticism is on places like Tumblr and other sources falling under ] (like blogs on ], or are just YouTubers, so it couldn't be added to the page. Still, I do think a pretty wide swath of reviews are added, at present. I'd be fine with adding articles like , about the show's focus on ] as opposed to other shows. ] (]) 12:56, 18 May 2023 (UTC) |
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Future seems to be not unlike ] or ], which continues the story of the original series, but is it's own separate series. ] (]) 17:55, 4 October 2019 (UTC) |
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:An update. The second paragraph of the "Influence and legacy" section mentions the ''California Law Review'' article I mentioned. The suggested reviews section (including the Queer Utopia article you mentioned) includes SEVEN articles which should be added and if I have some time this year, I'll try to add them in. ] (]) 15:08, 25 January 2024 (UTC) |
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:{{u|Simmerdon3448}}, where did I say it was part of Season 5? I did not. I stated it was a production of the series. It is not separate from this series. Hence, it is the final entrance of this series. -- <span style="text-shadow:0 0 1px #8dd">''/]/]''</span> 12:42, 5 October 2019 (UTC) |
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::It was a production of the series, but it is not the series finale. Change Your Mind is--] (]) 12:45, 5 October 2019 (UTC) |
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:::Can you provide a source that supports that? If it is a production of the series, then it is an entry of the series. You cannot have a series finale and then an entry afterwards that's part of the same series. -- <span style="text-shadow:0 0 1px #8dd">''/]/]''</span> 12:46, 5 October 2019 (UTC) |
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::::You don’t have a source for your claims that it is part of season 5, you made a random unsupported claim that different series have different rules. The Rugrats Movie isn’t part of season 5. Rugrats in Paris isn’t part of season 6. Status quo rules--] (]) 12:50, 5 October 2019 (UTC) |
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:::::That's because I'm not claiming that it's part of Season 5. I've already told you this, I hope I don't need to do so again. The Movie is a production of this series. It is the final entry of this series. -- <span style="text-shadow:0 0 1px #8dd">''/]/]''</span> 12:52, 5 October 2019 (UTC) |
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::::::::YOU NEED A SOURCE--] (]) 12:53, 5 October 2019 (UTC) |
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:::::::::For what? That it's a production of this series? -- <span style="text-shadow:0 0 1px #8dd">''/]/]''</span> 12:54, 5 October 2019 (UTC) |
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::::::::::YES. The movie is a movie in continuity with the series, but there’s nothing saying it’s a production of the series--] (]) 12:57, 5 October 2019 (UTC) |
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:::::::::::, a source used by thousands of television articles as a reliable source. The movie is listed as part of the series. : "Cartoon Network's Steven Universe returns this fall with the highly anticipated musical Steven Universe The Movie" - that is, the series returns with a new entry, the movie. -- <span style="text-shadow:0 0 1px #8dd">''/]/]''</span> 12:58, 5 October 2019 (UTC) |
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:::Literally invalid, as you’re ''assuming'' they’re referring to the series, when it could easily be about the character himself, whose name is Steven Universe--] (]) 13:01, 5 October 2019 (UTC) |
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::::A movie is not a series finale. This is pretty basic stuff.] (]) 13:03, 5 October 2019 (UTC) |
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:::::{{u|Gagaluv1}}, {{citation needed}} -- <span style="text-shadow:0 0 1px #8dd">''/]/]''</span> 13:03, 5 October 2019 (UTC) |
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::::::Are you serious? Don't be an asshole.] (]) 13:05, 5 October 2019 (UTC) |
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:::::::Please remain civil during discussions; further comments such as your previous one may be redacted. Please provide a reliable source to support your opinion. -- <span style="text-shadow:0 0 1px #8dd">''/]/]''</span> 13:06, 5 October 2019 (UTC) |
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::::It is listed as part of the series in the first source. Do you have anything to backup your claim that The Futon Critic is an invalid or unreliable source? -- <span style="text-shadow:0 0 1px #8dd">''/]/]''</span> 13:03, 5 October 2019 (UTC) |
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:::::It is NOT listed as part of the series in the first source, no matter how many times you say so. That’s like saying “Barty Goes to School” is the series finale of any PowerPuff Girls series because the Powerpuff Girls appears in it--] (]) 13:08, 5 October 2019 (UTC) |
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::::::Do you see it listed at the top of the article? The entry titled "The Movie" dated "9/2/19 (Mo.) 6:00 PM"? That indicates that it is listed as part of the series. If it wasn't part of the series, then The Futon Critic would not have it in their listing for the series as a whole. -- <span style="text-shadow:0 0 1px #8dd">''/]/]''</span> 13:10, 5 October 2019 (UTC) |
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::::::Further note how under "Current season", it lists "5 (33 episodes)". Season 5 has 32 episodes. That does indeed confirm that The Movie is considered the 33rd episode of the fifth season. That is, part of the series. -- <span style="text-shadow:0 0 1px #8dd">''/]/]''</span> 13:11, 5 October 2019 (UTC) |
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:::::::Citation needed--] (]) 13:14, 5 October 2019 (UTC) |
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:::::::: -- <span style="text-shadow:0 0 1px #8dd">''/]/]''</span> 13:15, 5 October 2019 (UTC) |
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::::::::::But why doesn’t it have a production code like the others? If it did, it certainly would be inline with the series, wouldn’t it?--] (]) 13:17, 5 October 2019 (UTC) |
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:::::::::::The numbers listed are not production codes. The actual production codes are available at ]. For example, "Gem Glow" is listed as (#01). It's production code is 1020-003. -- <span style="text-shadow:0 0 1px #8dd">''/]/]''</span> 13:19, 5 October 2019 (UTC) |
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:::::::::::Any further comments to disprove The Futon Critic as a reliable source, despite being used in almost ? -- <span style="text-shadow:0 0 1px #8dd">''/]/]''</span> 13:40, 5 October 2019 (UTC) |
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:::::::::::::Misrepresenting what I said will do you no favors. I said your source was invalid because it didn’t prove your claims. This sort of dishonesty is why I can’t handle arguing with you--] (]) 14:07, 5 October 2019 (UTC) |
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::::::::::::::That's your opinion on it. TFC includes it as part of the series. Note how it doesn't include SU Future. Because SU Future isn't part of the series. Looking at it otherwise is ]. TFC lists the movie as part of the SU series. It's as simple as that. Disagree? Hold an RFC to dispute TFC as a reliable source; until then, it exists as is. -- <span style="text-shadow:0 0 1px #8dd">''/]/]''</span> 14:09, 5 October 2019 (UTC) |
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:::::::::::::::Please chill out everyone, thanks. ] (]) 16:43, 5 October 2019 (UTC) |
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::::::::::::::::Also, the movie is was actually produced as a episode of the show somewhat as ] (]) 16:51, 5 October 2019 (UTC) |
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:::::::::::::::::There you have it. Even more sources. The movie is a production and entry of this series, irrelevant of original research or opinion. -- <span style="text-shadow:0 0 1px #8dd">''/]/]''</span> 22:08, 5 October 2019 (UTC) |
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::::::::::::::::::Note that I didn’t say this was a episode of the show. While this was produced technically as a episode of the show, it’s still a stand-alone movie. Change Your Mind is still the series finale. ] (]) 22:45, 5 October 2019 (UTC) |
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:{{od|:::::::::::::::::}}Sorry, but we don't do "technically" on Misplaced Pages, as that constitutes OR. If it is an episode of the series, it is an episode of the series. Multiple sources confirm it is an entry of the series, such as TFC. Can you cite a source or example as to why we cannot accept TFC as a source on this? -- <span style="text-shadow:0 0 1px #8dd">''/]/]''</span> 23:24, 5 October 2019 (UTC) |
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*'''Comment''' This situation is similar to what’s shown on FA article ]. The article says the show ended on a TV movie, and compared to when it was ], it’s still present. ] (]) 00:57, 6 October 2019 (UTC) |
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:::You can’t decide it on a “somewhat”! That’s ludicrous! Until there’s ''definitive'' proof, the discussion is not over--] (]) 01:40, 6 October 2019 (UTC) |
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I never said it was over, and this is proof that it was produced as a part of the series. You need to compare the source I linked to other background design cards from the actual show. I think that until this dispute is solved, the end date should be changed to just "2019". This is because there’s no valid end date to use right now.] (]) 01:48, 6 October 2019 (UTC) |
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I’ve sent a message to Ian JQ about this. Hopefully he responds so we can get a confirmation on what date to use. ] (]) 02:02, 6 October 2019 (UTC) |
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:Not that I don't respect just being like, we need an answer from someone on the inside; but isn't that like the ''definition'' of ]? ] (]) 04:08, 6 October 2019 (UTC) |
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::It's not OR. If the original creator states what's true, since that person works/worked on the show and has inside information, its reliable. That, and there have been sources gathered from staff answering fan questions before in other articles. Original research applies for facts that don't have any reliable sources. Statements from staff on the show are reliable sources, and therefore don't fall under OR. ] (]) 04:30, 6 October 2019 (UTC) |
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I do not believe that this article meets the standards necessary to be considered a neutrally-written article, nor one that can, without doubt, maintain the "good article" status as a result.
The main issue is the lack of substantial criticism towards the show. The article's sources are consistently those that show praise for the show or focus on objective elements within it, leaving out relevant viewpoints. As it stands, the article's only mentions of criticism are points about the release schedule.
Misplaced Pages requires "all majority and significant minority views". As is, I do not believe this requirement is met.
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