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== Apologies for self-revert chain on this page ==
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Misclicked the revert button on popups, then found out that when you click "back" to a popup action it repeats the action. --] (]) 20:05, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
== It seems that the AE report against me was from a sock puppet account ==


⚫ :@]: No worries. Happy editing! -- ] <sup>]</sup> 16:30, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
Admin: {{u|PatCheng}} who filed the complaint was clearly acting in bad faith, and was most likely a sock puppet of another editor ({{u|PCPP}} who had been permanently topic banned -]. Could you look into this? If it is confirmed, the AE report against me was a topic banned user who circumvented the banning. Thanks. ] 23:25, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
:{{re|Marvin 2009}} You need to provide explicit reasons that PatCheng is a sock of PCPP. Allegations are not enough. If you can not, continuing down this path will result in being blocked for ] or violating your topic ban --] &#124; ] 01:46, 17 July 2020 (UTC)


== Welcome to the 2025 WikiCup! ==
::{{ping|Guerillero}}Thanks for the response. Here is some of the evidence that I think warrants a further investigation:


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::PatCheng was an active editor in 2006. He was editing less frequently in summer of 2006, and stopped editing in September 2006. (After being silent for 13 years, he returned to editing suddenly in 2019 solely to report me to ANI and AE).
::PCPP created his account in summer 2006, and made first edit in November 2006.


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::The editing interests of these accounts in 2006/2007 and later are extremely similar. Both editors focused extensively on video games and popular culture, and on Falun Gong, the Epoch Times, human rights in China. Both accounts seemed to edit from the same POV on topics related to China. Falun Gong and the Epoch Times are among the top five articles edited by both accounts.
::* Analysis of PatCheng's contribution history:
::* Analysis of PCPP's contribution history:


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::More revealing is that they also both edited the same unrelated pages and templates on video games. For example, they both edited ]. Here are PatCheng's edits to that template:{{diff2|46883322|02:51, 4 April 2006}}, {{diff2|46882831|02:45, 4 April 2006}}, and {{diff2|45066774|01:08, 23 March 2006‎}}
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::And here are PCPP's edits:{{diff2|149078977|00:53, 4 August 2007‎‎}}, {{diff2|117198279|22:44, 22 March 2007}}, and {{diff2|115189609|19:29, 14 March 2007}}


==Discussion at ]==
::To give another example, PCPP edited ]: {{diff2|191368230| 01:48, 14 February 2008}}, and {{diff2|191368018| 01:47, 14 February 2008}}
]&nbsp;You are invited to join the discussion at ]. -- ] (]) 02:56, 1 January 2025 (UTC)<!-- ] -->
::Based on , PatCheng edited the related page, ]
:Just letting you no about this as a courtesy since you're the admin who deleted the article. The account making the request was created today, and this is their only edit so far. Perhaps this is the same user that created the deleted article. -- ] (]) 02:58, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
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⚫ ::See SPI for the results -- ] <sup>]</sup> 09:01, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
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|2006-03-18 10:16 ]
|2006-03-18 07:13 ]
|2006-03-15 06:07 ]
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== RFC Notice ==
::It is highly unlikely that two unconnected accounts would both have an interest in China/human rights/Falun Gong, and in the Command and Conquer series and Blizzard Entertainment. And that one account would start editing within two months of the other account stopping. This can't be coincidence.


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::It seems more likely that PatCheng abandoned his old username in summer 2006 and adopted a new name PCPP, which he used to continue editing the same topics. After PCPP was permanently topic banned from editing on Falun Gong, he revived his old PatCheng account in 2019, when his only purpose was to get me banned.


== typo ==
::Thanks for your attention!
:: ] 18:05, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
:::{{re|Marvin 2009}} The 8 year break between PCP's ban and PatCheng's return is gets me. Further, none of the shared topics are that niche. ]'s games are some of the best selling in the world and ] has been published for over 20 years. If we are to believe that PatCheng is the user's real name, and interest in China wouldn't be strange. Also, I'm pretty sure that the accounts are not in the same time zone. --] &#124; ] 15:21, 20 July 2020 (UTC)


this doesn't matter much, so feel free to ignore, but in my gnoming travels I noticed you seem to have made a typo in your support comment at the "community encouraged" proposed decision. thanks, ] (]) 15:59, 12 January 2025 (UTC)
::::{{ping|Guerillero}}Thanks for the response. The video games may be popular. But most editors do not edit template pages. And it's very strange that two unconnected accounts would edit the same video games template pages, AND that they would also both primary focus on editing Falun Gong/Epoch Times pages (where they exhibit the same POV), AND that one account is created when the other stops editing. Statistically, the chance this is coincidence is very low. And even though PCPP was topic banned from Falun Gong in 2011, he violated the ban as recently as 2016.


⚫ :@]: If you give me the fix in a {{tl|xt}} here, I will update my comment -- ] <sup>]</sup> 16:06, 12 January 2025 (UTC)
::::I would say your question regarding the 8 year break between PCP's ban and PatCheng's return is reasonable. However, even though PCPP was topic banned from Falun Gong in 2011, he violated the ban multiple times. Here are 3 examples: , and by Admin {{u|Future Perfect at Sunrise}} due to continued breaches of the existing topic ban.


== January music ==
::::Plus, before PCPP’s topic ban in 2011, after PatCheng’s return in 2019, both of them worked with user Simonm223 regarding FLG related topic. Please check ], , and {{diff2|338129130| 00:21, 16 January 2010 PCPP reverted Falun Gong article to the state that Simonm223 edited}}.
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::::Please also check: .. On the same day, PatCheng notified user Simonm223 who subsequently went to the ET page and did many questionable editing after PatCheng's notice. Here are 2 examples: and
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::::It appears in 2009 and 2010 PCPP worked with Simonm223 in editing FLG topic, after 9 years, PatCheng worked with Simonm223 in editing FLG topic. Suppose PCPP and PatCheng are different users, it is hard to explain that PatCheng informed Simonm223 on his talk page regarding FLG related topic on Aug 20 2019, the same day he just started to post on ET after retiring 13 years? ] 15:30, 22 July 2020 (UTC)
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Happy new year 2025! Today, ], ], in memory of her first appearance on stage OTD in 1900, and of principal author ]. -- ] (]) 20:29, 14 January 2025 (UTC)
== TFL notification ==

Hi, Guerillero. I'm just posting to let you know that ] – a list that you have been heavily involved with – has been chosen to appear on the Main Page as ] for August 7. The TFL blurb can be seen ]. If you have any thoughts on the selection, please post them on my talk page or at ]. Regards, ] (]) 01:45, 21 July 2020 (UTC)
:{{re|Giants2008}} ] shows ] in that slot --] &#124; ] 17:16, 21 July 2020 (UTC)
::Sometimes that page is slow to update without refreshing your cache. If you click ], you should find the Washington College list. ] (]) 22:07, 21 July 2020 (UTC)
⚫ :::{{re|Giants2008}} The summary looks great! --] &#124; ] 14:14, 22 July 2020 (UTC)

== Out of comission ==


Today I have ] (trumpeter, conductor) on the main page who worked closely with ] who became GA yesterday, - small world! To celebrate: mostly flowers pics from vacation ;) --] (]) 20:09, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
⚫ I'm getting all 4 of my ] out tomorrow and will be out of commission for a bit --] &#124; ] 14:11, 23 July 2020 (UTC)
:Wishing you a speedy recovery (and ]). ] 14:18, 23 July 2020 (UTC)


==Ethiopian Epic.==
== Inconsistent DS? ==
Hello, I see you were the closing administrator on the topic ban for EE at Yasuke. A new single purpose account has popped up doing the same reverts as EE, now EE has basically 'left' and the new account has taken up the same tack. Bladeandroid.] (]) 19:45, 15 January 2025 (UTC)
I'm sure this was just an error, but after you said that you would be applying the same discretionary sanctions to each editor pinged, you then gave ] a notice, rather than a sanction. Just in case you missed it. Anyway, looking forward to you suggestions, if any, on how to move forward with resolve the content problems. ] 20:17, 27 July 2020 (UTC)
⚫ :{{re|TheBlueCanoe}} I can not sanction him due to the fact that was as never notified of the sanctions. --] &#124; ] 20:21, 27 July 2020 (UTC)


:There is proxy use making CU unhelpful here. I gave them the CT notice. I need to do more of a dive into the behavioral evidence. -- ] <sup>]</sup> 21:46, 15 January 2025 (UTC)
== Explanation Required ==
Please explain in unambiguous terms how ''one single revert'' on a page in a decade constitutes edit warring, especially since a) the page's edit policy specified that an editor may not revert more than once every 24 hours, b) I have never been sanctioned or even warned about any kind of misbehavior in relation to the topic area, c) I have consistently advocated for civility, discussion and de-escalation of any battleground mentality on the talk page, and my only revert was directly related to fostering this approach. ] (]) 20:39, 27 July 2020 (UTC)
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Apologies for self-revert chain on this page

Misclicked the revert button on popups, then found out that when you click "back" to a popup action it repeats the action. --Richard Yin (talk) 20:05, 30 December 2024 (UTC)

@Richard Yin: No worries. Happy editing! -- Guerillero 16:30, 31 December 2024 (UTC)

Welcome to the 2025 WikiCup!

Happy New Year and Happy New WikiCup! The 2025 competition has just begun and all article creators, expanders, improvers and reviewers are welcome to take part. Even if you are a novice editor, we hope the WikiCup will give you a chance to improve your editing skills as you go. If you have already signed up, your submissions page can be found here. If you have not yet signed up, you can add your name here and the judges will set up your submissions page ready for you to take part. Any questions on the scoring, rules or anything else should be directed to one of the judges, or posted to the WikiCup talk page.

For the 2025 WikiCup, we've implemented several changes to the scoring system. The highest-ranking contestants will now receive tournament points at the end of each round, and final rankings are decided by the number of tournament points each contestant has. If you're busy and can't sign up in January, don't worry: Signups are now open throughout the year. To make things fairer for latecomers, the lowest-scoring contestants will no longer be eliminated at the end of each round.

The first round will end on 26 February. The judges for the WikiCup this year are: Cwmhiraeth (talk · contribs · email), Epicgenius (talk · contribs · email), Frostly (talk · contribs · email), Guerillero (talk · contribs · email) and Lee Vilenski (talk · contribs · email). Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove your name from Misplaced Pages:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 00:13, 1 January 2025 (UTC)

Discussion at WP:REFUND § 2024 Snowflake data breach

 You are invited to join the discussion at WP:REFUND § 2024 Snowflake data breach. -- Marchjuly (talk) 02:56, 1 January 2025 (UTC)

Just letting you no about this as a courtesy since you're the admin who deleted the article. The account making the request was created today, and this is their only edit so far. Perhaps this is the same user that created the deleted article. -- Marchjuly (talk) 02:58, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
See SPI for the results -- Guerillero 09:01, 1 January 2025 (UTC)

RFC Notice

Hello, this notice is for everyone who took part in the 2023 RfC on lists of airline destinations. I have started a new RfC on the subject. If you would like to participate please follow this link: Misplaced Pages talk:What Misplaced Pages is not § RfC on WP:NOT and British Airways destinations. Sunnya343 (talk) 01:10, 8 January 2025 (UTC)

typo

this doesn't matter much, so feel free to ignore, but in my gnoming travels I noticed you seem to have made a typo in your support comment at the "community encouraged" proposed decision. thanks, beepboopbwaph (talk) 15:59, 12 January 2025 (UTC)

@Beepboopbwaph: If you give me the fix in a {{xt}} here, I will update my comment -- Guerillero 16:06, 12 January 2025 (UTC)

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Happy new year 2025! Today, pictured on the Main page, Tosca, in memory of her first appearance on stage OTD in 1900, and of principal author Brian Boulton. -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:29, 14 January 2025 (UTC)

Today I have a composer (trumpeter, conductor) on the main page who worked closely with another who became GA yesterday, - small world! To celebrate: mostly flowers pics from vacation ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:09, 20 January 2025 (UTC)

Ethiopian Epic.

Hello, I see you were the closing administrator on the topic ban for EE at Yasuke. A new single purpose account has popped up doing the same reverts as EE, now EE has basically 'left' and the new account has taken up the same tack. Bladeandroid.Halbared (talk) 19:45, 15 January 2025 (UTC)

There is proxy use making CU unhelpful here. I gave them the CT notice. I need to do more of a dive into the behavioral evidence. -- Guerillero 21:46, 15 January 2025 (UTC)
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