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#Warnings on CozyandDozy's talk page from this year, showing these are an ongoing problems about which Cozy has been warned repeatedly | |||
##13 February 2020–March 2020: Unsourced/NPOV changes to ], breach of consensus required discretionary sanction | |||
##*: CozyandDozy changes the sentence in the lead from "Through his speeches and writings, he <u>criticizes</u> Islam, feminism" to "Through his speeches and writings, he <u>ridicules</u> Islam, feminism". No summary. | |||
##*: CozyandDozy adds "trasngender people" to the list of subjects Yiannopoulos criticizes, and removes "political correctness"; no sources added. Summary {{tq|NPOV; adding trasngender (common Milo target)}}. There is no mention of trans people elsewhere in Yiannopoulos' bio at this point. | |||
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##*: Changes "A study of Coptic immigrants from Egypt indicated that they have common ancestry with populations in Egypt, <u>as well as also sharing common ancestry with</u> populations of the southern Levant and Saudi Arabia." to "...<u>and are closely related to the</u> populations of the..." No summary. | |||
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##**Edit in question was , where CozyandDozy added "Fuentes' Latino surname comes from his Mexican paternal grandfather. Fuentes admits that he is a quarter Latino, but identifies as white, not Latino." to the article lead. At the time there was no mention of Fuentes' heritage anywhere else on the page. | |||
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##**Edits in question were , where CozyandDozy removed {{tq|According to political scientist Tamir Bar-On, Spencer defends "racialist and anti-Semitic agendas" of the Old Right under a new metapolitical guise, acting as a cultural influencer rather than a direct political actor, and using various media outlets to "disseminate his views to ordinary people in an accessible manner".<nowiki>{{Sfn|Bar-On|2019|p=225–226, 228}}</nowiki>}} and replaced it with {{tq|Following the failure of his political endeavors in the Beltway, in 2018 Spencer moved back in with his mother, at whose Montana home he continues to reside.<nowiki><ref>https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/06/white-noise-documentary-alt-right/612898/</ref></nowiki>}}. The only summary was in the first edit, which removed the original paragraph saying {{tq|This belongs in the body not the elde}} | |||
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::: oh my goodness, this is extremely weak sauce. And here I was actually inclined to think that you'd have something. Saying "Fuentes" is of partially Hispanic descent is a serious BLP issue? Saying Milo "ridicules" feminism is a BLP issue? Saying Milo mocks transgender people is a BLP issue? Note also that these facts were and are cited in sourxes in the article. | |||
::: Ironically, your additional diffs corroborate my point that Enoch is the only serious offense, and the rest is weak sauce. Since I still kinda like you, for reasons less obvious than they may appear, I do not question your intellectual honesty, but certainly speculate about how I rubbed you the wrong way. (The missus gorilla stuff was a joke about the norms of Misplaced Pages, namely how it's absurd that we are expected to take a formal, exquisitely polite tone with people while simultaneously referring to them with glib and cutesy nicknames. Did you take this for condescension?) ] (]) 04:58, 1 January 2021 (UTC) | |||
::::I don't make AE reports because someone's rubbed me the wrong way or because I took something they said as condescension. It's exactly like I said at AE: I was honestly at a loss for how to get through to you that this is a serious problem. Perhaps I am indeed misreading or overreacting and this is all "weak sauce"; that is up to the uninvolved admins at AE now. ] <small>]</small> 05:03, 1 January 2021 (UTC) | |||
::::: Oh, come off it Gorilla. The thing was over the second you filed it. Had it been some rando I may have had a chance. | |||
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LoS as neo-Nazi group
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Edit at Sidney Powell
CozyandDozy, I didn't remove your paragraph, but combined it with the one above. If you don't like the way I revised to remove redundancies, then please do it yourself. There is no need to say things twice in three paragraphs. Thank you. Pkeets (talk) 03:58, 21 November 2020 (UTC)
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Take it from someone who's learnt the hard way, edit warring is going to get you blocked if you keep at it, you've had plenty of warnings, please stop.
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Lauren Southern
This is really not okay: "it would be best if you self-published an article describing which views you now repudiate...We can use your own writings as a source about yourself" You should not be coaching the subject of an article to write favourably about themselves offsite in order to present self serving claims about themselves in their own article on wikipedia. That is a text book example of WP:GAMING. I'm assuming good faith, but please don't do it again. https://en.wikipedia.org/User_talk:Lauren_Cherie_Southern#Note_regarding_your_complaint_on_your_article Bacondrum (talk) 22:09, 25 December 2020 (UTC)
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- Per your request, here is the additional information I collated about the various warnings you've received over the past year. I've collapsed it since it's a bit long, but reformat it if you'd prefer.
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- Also, just as a note, AE uses sectioned discussion, meaning you should only reply in the "Statement by CozyandDozy" section rather than directly in my section. It's a little disjointed to read, but it's how most arbitration and arbitration-adjacent pages work. I've moved your two comments already. GorillaWarfare (talk) 04:22, 1 January 2021 (UTC)
- oh my goodness, this is extremely weak sauce. And here I was actually inclined to think that you'd have something. Saying "Fuentes" is of partially Hispanic descent is a serious BLP issue? Saying Milo "ridicules" feminism is a BLP issue? Saying Milo mocks transgender people is a BLP issue? Note also that these facts were and are cited in sourxes in the article.
- Ironically, your additional diffs corroborate my point that Enoch is the only serious offense, and the rest is weak sauce. Since I still kinda like you, for reasons less obvious than they may appear, I do not question your intellectual honesty, but certainly speculate about how I rubbed you the wrong way. (The missus gorilla stuff was a joke about the norms of Misplaced Pages, namely how it's absurd that we are expected to take a formal, exquisitely polite tone with people while simultaneously referring to them with glib and cutesy nicknames. Did you take this for condescension?) CozyandDozy (talk) 04:58, 1 January 2021 (UTC)
- I don't make AE reports because someone's rubbed me the wrong way or because I took something they said as condescension. It's exactly like I said at AE: I was honestly at a loss for how to get through to you that this is a serious problem. Perhaps I am indeed misreading or overreacting and this is all "weak sauce"; that is up to the uninvolved admins at AE now. GorillaWarfare (talk) 05:03, 1 January 2021 (UTC)
- Oh, come off it Gorilla. The thing was over the second you filed it. Had it been some rando I may have had a chance.
- I'm going to dramatically retire from Misplaced Pages now; I am certain to be topic banned but at least I can beat them to the punch. For the record, my crimes including listing that a Serbian neo-Nazi was Serbian, that Milo ridicules transgender people, and that Nick "Fuentes" descends (in part) from Spanish speaking persons. (One irony is that, in almost all cases, the consensus of editors came to favor my "contentious" change; that change became the new, stable text; and said changes were backed by RS.) CozyandDozy (talk) 05:45, 1 January 2021 (UTC)
- I don't make AE reports because someone's rubbed me the wrong way or because I took something they said as condescension. It's exactly like I said at AE: I was honestly at a loss for how to get through to you that this is a serious problem. Perhaps I am indeed misreading or overreacting and this is all "weak sauce"; that is up to the uninvolved admins at AE now. GorillaWarfare (talk) 05:03, 1 January 2021 (UTC)
- Also, just as a note, AE uses sectioned discussion, meaning you should only reply in the "Statement by CozyandDozy" section rather than directly in my section. It's a little disjointed to read, but it's how most arbitration and arbitration-adjacent pages work. I've moved your two comments already. GorillaWarfare (talk) 04:22, 1 January 2021 (UTC)
Retiring from Misplaced Pages
I'm going to spend more time getting and dozing off, as opposed to editing Misplaced Pages, when I'm feeling cozy in bed. CozyandDozy (talk) 05:47, 1 January 2021 (UTC)
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