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	:'''Support''' WPAC major typhoons have much more interesting info than these random tropical storms yet they don't even have a page. why should these have them? they do not meet wikipedia's notability standards even though there's a ton of info (that's because the ATL receives the most coverage) ] (]) 12:01, 18 October 2023 (UTC)		:'''Support''' WPAC major typhoons have much more interesting info than these random tropical storms yet they don't even have a page. why should these have them? they do not meet wikipedia's notability standards even though there's a ton of info (that's because the ATL receives the most coverage) ] (]) 12:01, 18 October 2023 (UTC)
	:'''Comment''' as the person who accepted this draft, I accepted this using ] and not whether it did or did not cause damage or death. ] • ] • ] 16:39, 18 October 2023 (UTC)		:'''Comment''' as the person who accepted this draft, I accepted this using ] and not whether it did or did not cause damage or death. ] • ] • ] 16:39, 18 October 2023 (UTC)
			::Also, if you want to delete this article, bring it to ], not here. ] • ] • ] 16:39, 18 October 2023 (UTC)

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This article contains a translation of Tempête tropicale Philippe (2023) from fr.wikipedia. (1179866435 et seq.)

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I seriously do not believe this storm deserves an article. It had VERY little meteorological significance besides being the longest lived tropical storm (which, to the casual reader, isn't important). No damages or deaths were reported, likely had minimal if any impact on land. I don't think this meets Misplaced Pages's notability standards and a deletion discussion should be started here. Sria-72 (talk) 20:54, 16 October 2023 (UTC)

Oppose The same could be said for articles Tropical Storm Harold (2023) and Tropical Storm Ophelia (2023), no victim and minimal damage! Is it because they affected the United States that they should be kept and Philippe should not because it affected other countries? The info in all those articles is too large to be integrated in the Season article and they should all be kept. Pierre cb (talk) 22:07, 16 October 2023 (UTC)

Oppose I agree that it may have minimal impact, but merging this to the season article would make it too long to read. So it's best to leave it as is. Animem 1 (talk) 16:52, 17 October 2023 (UTC)

Oppose per Animem and Pierre 2600:4041:47C:400:29A7:9374:CC92:43B5 (talk) 21:54, 17 October 2023 (UTC)

Neutral While I'm not sure if I agree, the standard is that any named tropical cyclone meets notability requirements, assuming enough reliable sources exist. Philippe was not particularly special outside of its longevity (and, frankly, tenacity), but an article can exist, it's not exactly the end of the world. AveryTheComrade (talk) 06:47, 18 October 2023 (UTC)

Support Philippe Harold and Ophelia (2023) are not notable in any form. Phillippe is only well known for the pain it caused people tracking its refusal to die. The other 2 have nothing notable. We have more notable storms in the WPAC that need editors to put effort into them given they meet notability standards. HavocPlayz (talk) 12:41, 18 October 2023 (UTC)

Oppose per Pierre Insendieum (talk) 15:21, 17 October 2023 (UTC)

Support Harold and Philippe both do not need articles. Not sure about Ophelia then, i really don't think that these storms need articles. Sria-72 (talk) 20:34, 17 October 2023 (UTC)

Support WPAC major typhoons have much more interesting info than these random tropical storms yet they don't even have a page. why should these have them? they do not meet wikipedia's notability standards even though there's a ton of info (that's because the ATL receives the most coverage) Faniolis (talk) 12:01, 18 October 2023 (UTC)

Comment as the person who accepted this draft, I accepted this using WP:GNG and not whether it did or did not cause damage or death. Kline • talk to me! • contribs 16:39, 18 October 2023 (UTC)

Also, if you want to delete this article, bring it to WP:AFD, not here. Kline • talk to me! • contribs 16:39, 18 October 2023 (UTC)

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