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Section sizes Section size for Yom Kippur War (63 sections) Section name Byte count Section total (Top) 15,318 15,318 Background 111 24,864 Arab–Israeli conflict 11,264 11,264 Lead up to the war 9,816 9,816 Israeli preparation 3,673 3,673 Sinai front 3,890 62,213 Egyptian attack 11,818 11,818 Failed Israeli counter-attack 3,941 3,941 Temporary stabilization 1,789 1,789 Battle of the Sinai 3,585 3,585 Israeli breakthrough and crossing of the Suez Canal 5,258 5,258 Securing the bridgehead 1,648 1,648 Egyptian response to the Israeli crossing 4,154 4,154 Israeli forces across the Suez 9,391 9,391 The ceasefire and further battles 4,023 4,023 Battle of Suez 1,273 1,273 Egypt's trapped Third Army 5,744 5,744 Post-war battles 2,881 2,881 Final situation on the Egyptian front 2,818 2,818 Golan front 17 42,693 Initial Syrian attacks 8,226 8,226 Defense of the Quneitra Gap 3,631 3,631 Syrian breakthrough in the Southern Golan 5,820 5,820 Israeli strategic response 5,838 5,838 Collapse of the Israeli 188th Armored Brigade 6,459 6,459 Israel retakes the southern Golan 1,867 1,867 Israeli advance towards Damascus 3,234 3,234 Arab military intervention 4,640 4,640 Northern front de-escalation 1,489 1,489 Jordanian participation 1,472 1,472 Naval operations 7,950 9,492 U.S.–Soviet naval standoff 1,542 1,542 Participation by other states 35 37,009 U.S. intelligence efforts 1,570 1,570 U.S. aid to Israel 13,586 13,586 Aid to Egypt and Syria 30 20,660 Soviet supplies 2,804 2,804 Soviet active aid 3,217 3,217 Soviet intervention threat 5,647 5,647 Other countries 8,962 8,962 Palestinian attacks from Lebanese territory 1,158 1,158 UN-backed ceasefire 2,315 2,315 Disengagement 3,361 3,361 Reactions 14 7,685 Response in Israel 3,006 3,006 Response in Egypt 1,470 1,470 Response in Syria 1,744 1,744 Response in the Soviet Union 772 772 Arab oil embargo 679 679 Aftermath 7,462 14,706 Egyptian–Israeli disengagement agreement 901 901 Egyptian–Israeli Camp David Accords 2,727 2,727 U.S. military doctrine 3,616 3,616 Casualties 4,846 4,846 Atrocities 16 8,020 Syrian atrocities 4,936 4,936 Egyptian atrocities 3,068 3,068 See also 1,391 1,391 References 15 16,541 Notes 26 26 Citations 1,874 1,874 Bibliography 14,626 14,626 External links 2,009 2,009 Total 252,463 252,463

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Egypt won this war

As Poke10000 said: The war ended up by negotiations which returned all Egyptian territories previously invaded by Israel in 1967. The Syrian borders did not change much, We determine the Victory of countries if they:1.Achieved their goals (and this is the most important rule).2. Get permanent benefits.3.And the least important thing which is having less casualties.Now let's analyze this war:Did Egypt achieve They goals?Yes, They Absolutely did..Their goals were:1.Crossing the canal ✓2.Destroying the barlev line ✓3.Taking Sinai back by peace ✓4.Causing huge damage to Israel ✓5. Retrieving the honor and dignity of the country that is lost in 1967 ✓6. Advancing further than the SAM umbrella ×Now we can all agree that Most of these goals were achieved.Now let's look at Israel.Their goals were:Keep the Sinai ×Push the all the egyptians back in a counter attack ×Take suez ×Take Ismailia ×Encircle the 2nd army ×Make the 3rd army surrender ×Destroy the SAM umbrella of egypt ✓Now if we determine Victory by The achievement of goals then undoubtedly Egypt Won.Now let's look at the casualties:Unfortunately the casualties are super debatable, the arabic sources say that egypt had Casualties about 8528 soilders killed and about 19,000 soilders wounded, The English sources however says that: Egypt had about: 15,000 soiders dead and 30,000 wounded.So I asked my grandfather who is a Yom Kippur war veteran that fought for egypt, and he said that the casualties of egypt are no more than 9,000 soilders which indeed confirm that the arabic sources are TRUE!The Arabic sources also claim that Isreal had about 10,000 dead and 20,000 wounded, which actually makes sense because how on Earth would you fight on two fronts and have only 2600 Casualties it's impossible!So of we talk about casualties I will have to give this point to egypt, because it just makes sense.Now let's move on to permanent benefits: Egypt obviously wins this round too, because DUH they got the Sinai peninsula back, every inch of it..(even if it was because of the peace deal, cause the main objective is getting back the Sinai, doesn't matter how Egypt gets it)As for isreal they gained too, they still kept all of the golan heights, and ALSO Syria lost this war completely it was a total failure for them, and both countries gained peace.I hope I helped, May peace flourish around the world , may we live in a world with no wars or blood spilled on the ground. , And I think that more than enough proof , But I think this is a "Both Country claim victory" as Tabs said ,Since Egypt Celebrate it and Israel also claim they won it but For this proof We know Who actually won and I think setting it to Egypt won would be better Mohamed2046 (talk) 12:49, 9 August 2023 (UTC)

Once again, as has been said many times on this page, you need to provide reliable sources to support your claim, or no changes will be made and this discussion dismissed. This article currently has 12 reliable sources as citations for the Israeli victory, and no amount of coming here with walls of text and not a single reliable source provided is going to result in any change when we have so many citations supporting the article in its current form. --OuroborosCobra (talk) 16:01, 9 August 2023 (UTC)

I don't understand what I am supposed to do?, Like send a website source or just getting info from trusted website and use -website name at the end? Mohamed2046 (talk) 23:51, 11 August 2023 (UTC)

Also why is Simple Misplaced Pages Saying That Egypt was the one who won:

The Egyptians celebrate victory that day since they successfully attacked at the start of the war. The Syrians, on the other hand, do not like to talk about the war, as much of it was seen as a defeat, rather than a victory or stalemate. Mohamed2046 (talk) 13:05, 12 August 2023 (UTC)

Read WP:RS, and follow it. I do not know the policies or editors of "Simple Misplaced Pages," nor do I care. They are an entirely different project from this one. Here on Misplaced Pages, we follow our policies, and there on "Simple Misplaced Pages," they follow there's. What holidays Egyptians celebrate isn't really all that relevant anymore than what holidays Israel celebrates or Syria celebrates (or doesn't celebrate, as the case may be). Celebrating a holiday isn't really evidence of a historical fact. As an example, much of the western world celebrates December 25th as the birthday of Jesus, even though basically all evidence (if any even definitively shows Jesus existed at all) wasn't born on December 25th. Holidays established by governments can also be used for propaganda purposes to push a specific narrative, one way or the other. The United States celebrates Columbus Day in part to promote Italian cultural acceptance in the US and the American narrative of the history of North America, despite the fact that Columbus didn't land in what would become the US, other Europeans likely preceded him to what would become the US, and native Americans definitely preceding Columbus in reaching North America by tens of thousands of years. Misplaced Pages requires our information to come from and be supported by reliable sources (see the policy that I've linked you to). Given that this article currently has 12 reliable sources supporting an Israeli victory, we absolutely cannot use the celebration of a holiday (whether in Egypt, Israel, or Syria) as proof of victory, and the bar is probably going to be high in refuting our 12 existing sources. I'll leave the latter to when sources are presented, which over the many times this topic is brought up, basically no one does. --OuroborosCobra (talk) 19:49, 14 August 2023 (UTC)

Egypt won this war you fuckin liars shame on you why are you faking history do what ever you want we all know who won anyways

Isn't it enough for you to steal lands know you are stealing our history as well !! Fuckin rats 156.195.138.186 (talk) 04:17, 20 October 2023 (UTC)

If you need reliable resources here is one from Cambridge University https://www.cambridge.org/core/books/abs/arab-world-and-western-intelligence/yom-kippur-war/1E9171C96853CA45F585BB061C108F00

citation: Rezk, D. (2017). Yom Kippur War. In The Arab World and Western Intelligence: Analysing the Middle East, 1956–1981(Intelligence, Surveillance, and Secret Warfare, pp. 249-283). Edinburgh University Press.

And here’s one

https://www.routledge.com/Revisiting-the-Yom-Kippur-War/Kumaraswamy/p/book/9780714680675

citation: Peretz, Don. (2002). Revisiting the Yom Kippur War (review). Shofar: An Interdisciplinary Journal of Jewish Studies. 20. 135-136. 10.1353/sho.2002.0077.

Check these 2

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/285222220_The_Watchman_Fell_Asleep_The_Surprise_of_the_Yom_Kippur_War_and_Its_Sources_review

citation: Miller, Rory. (2008). The Watchman Fell Asleep: The Surprise of the Yom Kippur War and Its Sources (review). Shofar: An Interdisciplinary Journal of Jewish Studies. 27. 134-136. 10.1353/sho.0.0282.

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/235143284_Strategic_Analysis_Anwar_Sadat_and_the_1973_October_War

citation: Hilkowitz, Steven & Jeter, Drew. (2023). Strategic Analysis Anwar Sadat and the 1973 October War. 20.

check this This is the Jewish JTA daily new bulletin December 14, 1979

https://www.jta.org/archive/mrs-meir-was-close-to-suicide-at-early-stages-of-the-yom-kippur-war

let me know if you want more, if there are 12 reliable citations and recourses about Israel's victory we have millions about the Egyptian victory. 41.34.135.117 (talk) 11:37, 20 October 2023 (UTC)

For each, quote the phrase which says Egypt won the war. Then we might check if the sources are reliable. (Hohum ) 14:44, 20 October 2023 (UTC)

it seems you need help to find the truth well like no one knows it, this is a history of taking sinai back and a strategic endeavor that has left an indelible mark in history and is studied in military academies around the world not a quote to highlight, i won't say anything other than the egyptian President Mohamed Anwar Sadat, the hero of war and peace, ordered the return of the Israeli prisoners wearing Castor pajamas produced by the famous Mahalla spinning factories, and the prisoners actually arrived in Tel Aviv wearing these pajamas, and Golda Meir; She had been confident of ultimate Israeli victory, Hazan said, even during the worst moments to the war. But she felt — as she told him — that her own life had become worthless as result of the pre-war catastrophe, and she no longer wished to live. Why, then had she not carried out her suicide urge? Because, Hazan quoted her as saying, she felt that to do so would be to weaken the resolve of the young fighting soldiers on the battlefield.

change it to the truth or not it does't matter because[REDACTED] is not considered as a reliable resource for any information, but you can't change the history. Hehe bye 41.34.135.117 (talk) 16:08, 20 October 2023 (UTC)

@41.34.135.117 You know that you could change the article if you present reliable sources right? DavidDijkgraaf (talk) 16:24, 20 October 2023 (UTC)

@41.34.135.117 Indeed, with reliable sources actually supporting your claim. The return of territory nearly a decade after the war ended due to a treaty signed several years after the war ended (and not directly related to said war, but to the overall relations over several decades), these are not evidence of a victory or defeat for either side in said war. Nor are pajamas, if that even happened. Nor is a prime minister contemplating suicide at the start of a war (lots of things can change between the start of a war and the end of a war). That's what at least one of the new sources presents; not anything about who won at the end of the war, just suicidal thoughts by a prime minister at the start of the war. If your other sources are of this caliber and content, then you have not presented anything in support of your claim. Quote in your sources where it says Egypt won the war. --OuroborosCobra (talk) 16:29, 20 October 2023 (UTC)

Again it’s not a quoted phrase it’s a strategy you won’t understand it except when you read it, i think you need to add to your knowledge so open any trusted research site with citation and write yom kippur war, or 6th of October war. Because again there’s no quoted phrase said that israel won but there’s a quoted phrase says “israels 1973 intelligence failure”

again the whole world knows that[REDACTED] is not a reliable resource so this is just for your knowledge 41.34.135.117 (talk) 16:39, 20 October 2023 (UTC)

An intelligence failure at the start of a war does not mean that the war was lost by the party with the intelligence failure. The two are not in any way synonymous. Unless your sources actually say that Egypt won the war, you do not have sources saying that Egypt won the war. Please read WP:OR and WP:SYNTH. If you hate Misplaced Pages so much, you are free to leave, no one is forcing you to be here, and you shouldn't care what is said on this website. --OuroborosCobra (talk) 17:05, 20 October 2023 (UTC)

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Change Israeli Victory to Syrian Front: Israeli Victory

Egyptian Front: Initial Israeli Success. Egyptian Victory at ==Operation Badr== and retaking of ==Sinai==

Syrian Front: Israeli Victory

Egyptian Front: Initial Israeli Success. Egyptian Victory at ==Operation Badr== and retaking of ==Sinai== HelloMynameisaughhh (talk) 00:27, 10 September 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Lightoil (talk) 06:30, 10 September 2023 (UTC)

As with every time this request has been made, you need to provide reliable sources. Our current result section in the infobox has 12 reliable sources supporting it, and every time this topic is brought up, practically no one provides any sources at all, and no one provides anything resembling reliable sources. --OuroborosCobra (talk) 15:23, 10 September 2023 (UTC)

Wth is that?!

Its all basically israelis narrating their side of the story and the estimates of losses. You a basically trying so hard to make it look as if israelis were bunch of spartan warriors that won every battle outnumbered and took few losses. I would like to see a full egyptian side of the story. Also where were those other country’s soldiers? Like saudi and morocco? Just adding flags to enforce the idea that it was a coalition fighting against israel which is not true. There were very few units. The number of egyptians who crossed were around 80000 while israel had over 180000 in sinai. The egyptians were outnumber and outgunned. Israel doesn’t give away lands for free or peace, if thats the case they would have given back the golan heights and west bank to palestinians who are asking for exactly that or they would have given back sinai before the war because thats exactly what sadat offered. I will get proper sources from unbiased sources and post them. And don’t come bringing me some american sources, although they wont be as biased as the israeli which looks like an unfunny joke they would still try to make israel look like it won the war and the conceded the land because israelis are bunch of peaceful white doves😂 94.21.98.52 (talk) 00:47, 11 September 2023 (UTC)

Do you have any specific edit suggestions, supported by reliable sources? Also, can you demonstrate that you even read the article? —OuroborosCobra (talk) 01:27, 11 September 2023 (UTC)

Cuban losses

I've already seen and addressed this issue once before but in the Infobox, the Cuban losses are the exact same ones that appear in the War of Attrition article. Unless by an astonishing coincidence they were the same, something clearly got mixed up. Can we please once and for all confirm which war these casualties correspond to?--RM (Be my friend) 22:54, 23 September 2023 (UTC)

Can someone add an explanation explaining who Gunnar Jarring is?

Hello! I'm fairly new to[REDACTED] so I have no idea if this how I'm supposed to request an edit but here is my request:

I was reading this article and noticed that a guy named Gunnar Jarring was referred to. I figured my skimming must've made me miss something and I continued. He was referenced again so I used control + f and found that even at the first instance of his name, there is no even small explanation of who he is or why he is relevant or why he is negotiating a peace. I went to add a tag but saw it's edit protected. I understand that there is a lot of heat and anger from nationalists from countries who participated in this war so I understand that, but can someone who does have permission to edit this add some context as to who this guy is?

Cheers! 162.154.240.33 (talk) 12:47, 27 September 2023 (UTC)

Also there is already a wiki article on Mr. Jarring so that should probably be linked with brackets.

From his wiki, I found this explaining who he is/was:

"After the 1967 Six-Day War and the adoption of UN Security Council Resolution 242, Jarring was appointed by the UN Secretary-General U Thant as a Special Representative of the Secretary-General for the Middle East peace process, the so-called Jarring Mission, during which he worked with the Four Powers who included United States UN Permanent Representative Ambassador Charles W. Yost."

Perhaps a shortened version of this can be added. 162.154.240.33 (talk) 12:51, 27 September 2023 (UTC)

I've linked the first instance of his name as a start. (Hohum ) 13:37, 27 September 2023 (UTC)

And one more thing I've noticed as I read this article. Under the "Onset" heading it says "The war began on October 6, 1973...The attack by the Egyptian and Syrian forces caught the United States by surprise."

However in the previous paragraph, it mentions that Kissinger was trying to stop the war from breaking out, and if I recall correctly, the article also mentions the Soviets trying to stop the war. All of this seems somewhat contradictory.

It may not be of course, but could we at least get some sort of citation that the war (or at least opening attack) took the US by surprise? 162.154.240.33 (talk) 13:06, 27 September 2023 (UTC)

Algerian participation in the Yom Kippur War article

I don't edit on this topic but I'm just noting here a newly-created article, Algerian participation in the Yom Kippur War, that experienced editors here may want to look at. I see that Algerian participation is detailed in this article already, that no discussion on a WP:SPLIT occurred here, and that no other article like this exists for other countries involved, so it seems like an unnecessary stub. But I leave it to others to judge/discuss. R Prazeres (talk) 21:15, 28 September 2023 (UTC)

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I would like to edit the result and say that it was also an egyptian victory because egypt regained sinai. 2603:6010:1C00:325:2A25:2FBD:51C:491 (talk) 06:41, 2 October 2023 (UTC)

The Yom Kippur War was fought between Israel and a coalition of Arab states led by Egypt and Syria from October 6 to 25, 1973

. Egypt managed to win the war by launching a surprise attack on Israel during the fast of Yom Kippur, the Day of Atonement that is the holiest day in the Jewish calendar

. The Egyptian and Syrian armies, with advanced Soviet weapons, launched a two-front offensive on Israel, from the north and the south, and managed to cross the Suez Canal and capture the Bar Lev Line – a fortified sand wall on the east

. The war began with early successes for the Arab coalition, but Israel ultimately repelled the attack and regained lost territory

. However, Egypt achieved political gains from the war, including the 1978 Camp David Accords and the 1979 Egypt-Israel peace treaty 2603:6010:1C00:325:2A25:2FBD:51C:491 (talk) 06:44, 2 October 2023 (UTC)

As with every time this request has been made, you need to provide reliable sources. Our current result section in the infobox has 12 reliable sources supporting it, and every time this topic is brought up, practically no one provides any sources at all, and no one provides anything resembling reliable sources. --OuroborosCobra (talk) 11:50, 2 October 2023 (UTC)

 Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{Edit extended-protected}} template. HouseBlaster 23:01, 2 October 2023 (UTC)

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I would like to edit the result because: The Yom Kippur War was fought between Israel and a coalition of Arab states led by Egypt and Syria from October 6 to 25, 1973

. Egypt managed to win the war by launching a surprise attack on Israel during the fast of Yom Kippur, the Day of Atonement that is the holiest day in the Jewish calendar

. The Egyptian and Syrian armies, with advanced Soviet weapons, launched a two-front offensive on Israel, from the north and the south, and managed to cross the Suez Canal and capture the Bar Lev Line – a fortified sand wall on the east

. The war began with early successes for the Arab coalition, but Israel ultimately repelled the attack and regained lost territory

. However, Egypt achieved political gains from the war, including the 1978 Camp David Accords and the 1979 Egypt-Israel peace treaty So I would like to add that it was also an egyptian victory 2603:6010:1C00:325:2A25:2FBD:51C:491 (talk) 06:47, 2 October 2023 (UTC)

As with every time this request has been made, you need to provide reliable sources. Our current result section in the infobox has 12 reliable sources supporting it, and every time this topic is brought up, practically no one provides any sources at all, and no one provides anything resembling reliable sources. --OuroborosCobra (talk) 11:50, 2 October 2023 (UTC)

Here are some reliable sources that explain how Egypt managed to win the Yom Kippur War:

The Jewish Virtual Library provides an overview of the Yom Kippur War and explains that Egypt's initial objective was to use its military to regain the Sinai Peninsula, which Israel had seized in the Six-Day War of 1967. Although Egypt lost the war, Egyptians saw the conflict as a victory because it retrieved Arab honor and shifted the psychological balance of power in the region.

Al Jazeera features an article that explains how the Egyptians and Syrians launched a surprise attack on Israel on the Yom Kippur religious holiday to catch Israel off guard. The article explains that Egypt sought a limited war to focus the minds of the world's superpowers and jump-start the stalled peace process. The article also explains that the war ushered in a new reality in the Middle East and that it had far-reaching implications.

The U.S. Department of State's Office of the Historian provides a detailed account of the Yom Kippur War and explains that Egypt and Syria attacked Israel's forces in the Sinai Peninsula and the Golan Heights. The article explains that despite initial Israeli setbacks, the United States intervened and helped broker a ceasefire that ultimately saved the Third Army from annihilation. The article also explains that the war had significant implications for the region and for U.S. foreign policy.

The Complete Idiot's Guide to Middle East Conflict by Mitchell G. Bard provides an overview of the Yom Kippur War and explains that Egypt and Syria launched a surprise attack on Israel to regain lost territory. The book explains that the war was a turning point in the Arab-Israeli conflict and that it had far-reaching implications for the region.

The Illusion of Defeat: Egyptian Strategic Thinking and the 1973 Yom Kippur War by LTC Steven R. Meek provides an in-depth analysis of the Yom Kippur War and explores Egyptian strategic thinking during the conflict. The book explains that although Egypt lost tactically, it won strategically, and that the war had significant implications for the region. 24.172.129.23 (talk) 12:36, 2 October 2023 (UTC)

So none of your sources say Egypt won the war? It isn't the job of Misplaced Pages to change what the sources are reporting because anyone personally thinks it is describing Egypt as winning the war. --OuroborosCobra (talk) 14:29, 2 October 2023 (UTC)

yes they do say that egypt won the war, if you don't believe me, check out these links:

https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/the-yom-kippur-war

https://www.aljazeera.com/features/2018/10/8/the-october-arab-israeli-war-of-1973-what-happened

https://2001-2009.state.gov/r/pa/ho/time/dr/97192.htm

https://www.amazon.com/Complete-Idiots-Guide-Middle-Conflict/dp/0028632613

https://apps.dtic.mil/sti/tr/pdf/AD1022141.pdf 24.172.129.23 (talk) 15:08, 2 October 2023 (UTC)

Please quote verbatim the specific passages for each that say Egypt won, plus page number where relevant. (Hohum ) 15:13, 2 October 2023 (UTC)

ok fine whatever, but why don't we just change it to both sides claim victory instead of just israeli military victory? you know egypt also achieved its military goals too right?? Ali36800p (talk) 16:41, 2 October 2023 (UTC)

Because that is not what our dozen or so reliable sources that are being cited say. —OuroborosCobra (talk) 17:10, 2 October 2023 (UTC)

Egypt achieved some of its objectives, including:

Egypt's initial war objective was to use its military to seize a limited amount of Israeli-occupied Sinai on the east bank of the Suez Canal.

Egypt and Syria secured victories in the Sinai and the Golan Heights during the first few days of the war.

The intensity of the Egyptian and Syrian assaults rapidly began to exhaust Israel’s reserve stocks of munitions.

Egyptian President Anwar al-Sadat declared the war a victory for Egypt, as it retrieved Arab honor and shifted the psychological balance of power in the region.

In summary, while Egypt did not achieve all of its military goals in the Yom Kippur War, it did achieve some of its objectives and saw the conflict as a victory.

are you sure there isnt any source that mentions this?? if so then where did i get this ??! Ali36800p (talk) 17:42, 2 October 2023 (UTC)

How difficult is it to back yourself up with reliable sources? DavidDijkgraaf (talk) 17:44, 2 October 2023 (UTC)

https://mwi.westpoint.edu/timeless-lessons-october-1973-arab-israeli-war/, says that Egypt and Syria successfully launched coordinated surprise attacks against Israeli forces in the Sinai Ali36800p (talk) 17:49, 2 October 2023 (UTC)

according to https://www.britannica.com/event/Yom-Kippur-War, Egyptian forces successfully crossed the Suez Canal with greater ease than expected Ali36800p (talk) 17:51, 2 October 2023 (UTC)

according to https://www.aljazeera.com/features/2018/10/8/the-october-arab-israeli-war-of-1973-what-happened, Egypt and Syria regained a portion of their territory and UN buffer zones were established between them and Israel. Ali36800p (talk) 17:52, 2 October 2023 (UTC)

according to https://www.ajc.org/news/4-lessons-from-the-yom-kippur-war, the 1973 war was an Egyptian success. It ended the territorial and political status quo and started a political process that ... Ali36800p (talk) 17:53, 2 October 2023 (UTC)

according to https://apps.dtic.mil/sti/tr/pdf/AD1022141.pdf, Egypt had lost tactically, but won strategically. so you're wrong, there is a source, and this is just one of them. Ali36800p (talk) 17:46, 2 October 2023 (UTC)

Only the "ajc" link is about winning the war as a whole, and how is that a WP:RELIABLE source? What is the exact quote in the dtic.mil source that supports what you say. Please read and understand WP:V, WP:RS and WP:OR before making edit requests. (Hohum ) 18:01, 2 October 2023 (UTC)

Actually, I see the phrase in the dtic.mil documents. Howevers, please note that the document also says:

The opinions and conclusions expressed herein are those of the student author and do not necessarily represent the views of the U.S. Army Command and General Staff College or any other government agency. (References to this study should include the foregoing statement.)

This is a student monograph, not a reliable source, imo. (Hohum ) 18:06, 2 October 2023 (UTC)

I feel like you've been given plenty of guidance, and additional requests without providing sound sources is going to fall on deaf ears. Googling search terms about Egypt winning, and throwing them all into the mix in the hope that one is good is not the way to do this. (Hohum ) 18:12, 2 October 2023 (UTC)

bruh, you yourself said in my opinion, so that doesn't change anything Ali36800p (talk) 18:17, 2 October 2023 (UTC)

OK, well then, I'm here to say that isn't just his personal opinion. A student's monograph or essay is not a reliable source that we can cite. Literally anyone enrolled in an institution, regardless of credentials or background knowledge or research, can write student essays. That does not make them authoritative, reliable sources. @Hohum was likely trying to speak with a polite and conciliatory tone, which was lost on you if you are going to call them "bruh." --OuroborosCobra (talk) 18:20, 2 October 2023 (UTC)

ive literally given you so many reliable sources and you're just ignoring them, how about this, give me a reliable source that says israel won the war. Ali36800p (talk) 18:27, 2 October 2023 (UTC)

There are twelve cited reliable sources right in this article. You can find them right at the victory section. Most of yours have been ignored for not at all supporting your claim, and the only one that has was a student essay. --OuroborosCobra (talk) 18:30, 2 October 2023 (UTC)

who is in charge here? because this is not just Ali36800p (talk) 21:33, 2 October 2023 (UTC)

I think you don't know how Misplaced Pages works if you are asking that question. Please familiarize yourself with the various policy pages. --OuroborosCobra (talk) 21:47, 2 October 2023 (UTC)

have you ever heard of sarcasm?? i can literally give you more reliable sources and you'll just ignore them Ali36800p (talk) 22:00, 2 October 2023 (UTC)

do you want me to give you more sources or are you just going to keep ignoring them? Ali36800p (talk) 22:20, 2 October 2023 (UTC)

While you are learning Misplaced Pages policies, please read no personal attacks and assume good faith. I didn't ignore your sources; your sources did not back up your claim or was a student essay. We have twelve sources supporting the current infobox on the result. I could ask if you are ignoring them, but I'm assuming that you've read them in good faith. --OuroborosCobra (talk) 00:34, 3 October 2023 (UTC)

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i have more sources to back up my claim that egypt won the yom kippur war:

https://www.britannica.com/event/Yom-Kippur-War

https://www.reddit.com/r/Israel/comments/xx1yju/yom_kippur_war_and_egypt/

https://www.aljazeera.com/features/2018/10/8/the-october-arab-israeli-war-of-1973-what-happened

https://apps.dtic.mil/sti/tr/pdf/AD1022141.pdf

https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/2016-10-19/ty-article/.premium/so-who-won-the-yom-kippur-war/0000017f-e02b-d75c-a7ff-fcaf8d740000 Ali36800p (talk) 01:02, 3 October 2023 (UTC)

You've already posted most of these sources and they either don't support your position, are opinion pieces (thus not RS) or student essays (see above). Again, read Misplaced Pages policies, and then come back here and try this again. I'll add WP:SYNTH to the list. You cannot synthesize the position that "Egypt won the war" from a source saying "Egyptian forces crossed the Suez Canal more easily than expected" and "Egypt's goal was to cross the canal." I'll put it another way; UN forces reached the outskirts of the Yalu river during the beginning of the Korean War far more rapidly than was expected, and doing so was an aim of UN forces, but the result of the war wasn't a UN victory. Reliable sources generally agree that the result was inconclusive, and there was little in the way of territorial change. Synthesizing a position by mixing together statements from multiple sources together to say something that isn't individually in any of those sources violates Misplaced Pages policies. Have you read the policies we have directed you to? --OuroborosCobra (talk) 01:12, 3 October 2023 (UTC)

no, i haven't read the policies, all i'm aasking for you is to include egypt's military victory or just say that both sides claimed victory, why can't we agree on that?? Ali36800p (talk) 02:12, 3 October 2023 (UTC)

Because this website operates on Misplaced Pages's policies, and not the personal wishes, dreams, and gentlemen agreements of individual editors. I'm telling you flat out, you will not get the changes that you want on any of the pages you've been trying to do this doing it this way. To get your edits approved, you must follow Misplaced Pages policies in your proposal and supporting evidence (reliable sources) for them. Otherwise, they will not happen. That's just plain how this website works. --OuroborosCobra (talk) 02:31, 3 October 2023 (UTC)

ok fine then, where can i find the policies?? Ali36800p (talk) 02:37, 3 October 2023 (UTC)

By following the wikilinks to them that I and other editors have been giving you for this entire conversation. --OuroborosCobra (talk) 02:50, 3 October 2023 (UTC)

can you please give me the wikilink one more time please? Ali36800p (talk) 02:59, 3 October 2023 (UTC)

No. There all here in this conversation. You are perfectly capable of reading through it. I'm kind of done trying to help you. --OuroborosCobra (talk) 15:46, 3 October 2023 (UTC)

is AI a reliable source? Ali36800p (talk) 23:28, 4 October 2023 (UTC)

No, of course it isn't. --OuroborosCobra (talk) 01:59, 5 October 2023 (UTC)

why? it's unbiased and get its information from reliable sources, what if i can quote what AI says and cite the sources for you? Ali36800p (talk) 02:14, 5 October 2023 (UTC)

You've no way of knowing that the sources AI is using qualify as reliable sources on Misplaced Pages, especially since (by your own admission) you have not read such pages. AI is not unbiased, it is biased by what is used for its training library and database, and has been found to be quite unreliable. Hell, I've asked it scientific questions and it has given me factually incorrect answers and made up sources that literally do not exist. Ali, what you need to do is drop the stick and not come back until you have read Misplaced Pages policies. That means end this conversation, because you will not get your requested edits made until you request them in a way that doesn't violate WP policies. --OuroborosCobra (talk) 15:01, 5 October 2023 (UTC)

yeah well, this page right here has factually incorrect answers and i'm trying to edit it but you won't let me, so it's not any different, and i will give you a 100 more reliable sources Ali36800p (talk) 15:29, 5 October 2023 (UTC)

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"A destroyed Israeli M48 Patton tanks on the banks of the Suez Canal" This caption disagrees on the number of tank in the picture. There appear to be two tanks, so I would suggest: "Destroyed Israeli M48 Patton tanks on the banks of the Suez Canal" Francis2559 (talk) 23:40, 6 October 2023 (UTC)

 Done  BelowTheSun  (T•C) 01:01, 7 October 2023 (UTC)

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"There is no doubt that this in total conflict with its military theories."

'That this was,' perhaps? I can't see the source but this seems an obvious typo. Can anyone review? Francis2559 (talk) 23:54, 6 October 2023 (UTC)

Commenting here since I resolved all the others; only reason I didn't do this one was because I couldn't access the source, would like to leave this to someone with access to that to review.  BelowTheSun  (T•C) 01:01, 7 October 2023 (UTC)

 Done I don't have access to the source either, but even if that is the original phrasing, it can be corrected as it's obviously erroneous. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 00:16, 8 October 2023 (UTC)

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"A Syrian FROG-7 artillery rockets struck the Israeli Air Force base of Ramat David"

Should likely be "rocket," singular. Must agree with the first word at least. Francis2559 (talk) 00:10, 7 October 2023 (UTC)

 Done: I went for "rockets" plural based on what I could find in sources, though it's admittedly weak, so if this gets changed to "rocket" later with better support then that's cool.  BelowTheSun  (T•C) 01:01, 7 October 2023 (UTC)

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" with last Israeli troops exiting on April 26, 1982"

with "the" last, I expect. Francis2559 (talk) 00:40, 7 October 2023 (UTC)

 Done  BelowTheSun  (T•C) 01:01, 7 October 2023 (UTC)

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Egypt won this war and this is obvious as Egyptians returned their stolen land back and Israel's leaders said this by their tongue so why writing wrong info plz update Youssef AbuElSoud (talk) 19:45, 8 October 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Additionally, your statement that "Egyptians returned their stolen land back" doesn't make any sense in support of your claim – generally you don't give up land when you win a war. Tollens (talk) 20:58, 8 October 2023 (UTC)

Hello.

Can anyone see if the word humiliation in lead "the Arab world had experienced humiliation in the lopsided rout of the Egyptian–Syrian–Jordanian alliance" feels unencyclopedic. Can anyone change it to "experienced defeat"? 182.183.0.254 (talk) 13:36, 15 October 2023 (UTC)

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the result is wrong: Egypt's military victory*, Israel lost. McKenzie-Smith, R. H. (1976). CRISIS DECISIONMAKING IN ISRAEL: THE CASE OF THE OCTOBER 1973 MIDDLE EAST WAR. Naval War College Review, 29(1), 39–52. http://www.jstor.org/stable/44641386 Christineguindy (talk) 00:25, 17 October 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: Would you mind actually reading your source before claiming it supports your incorrect view? Per your source: "from the purely military point of view, the fighting ended with a clear-cut Israeli victory". Also, see above sections on this talk page Cannolis (talk) 01:07, 17 October 2023 (UTC)

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Remove "Partial Egyptian political victory" from the result. It was added on October 13, 2023, at 07:36 by a user named The Great Mule of Eupatoria, with an edit summary:

(Mentioned in the source, Egypt saw some sort of victory unlike the lopsided wars of before and some vindication. Direct quotation from the citation: For most Egyptians the war is remembered as an unquestionable victory—militarily as well as politically ... The fact that the war ended with Israeli troops stationed in the outskirts of Cairo and in complete encirclement of the Egyptian third army has not dampened the jubilant commemoration of the war in Egypt." (p. 11) "Ultimately, the conflict...)

The book the user cited seems to be this one, page 6. But I don't see anything in it that clearly states or even implies that the result was objectively a partial Egyptian political victory. Here's a screenshot of the page: https://imgur.com/ZI2GQDI Modrenebe (talk) 13:47, 17 October 2023 (UTC)

My understanding of the text (based on the material in the middle of the page) is that the war led to the 1974-1975 disengagement agreements and the regaining of the Sinai Peninsular in the 1979 peace treaty. I suppose this could be considered a political victory, and this content has been mentioned in the Yom_Kippur_War#Aftermath section too. Liu1126 (talk) 14:34, 17 October 2023 (UTC)

no, its correct Ali36800p (talk) 14:56, 17 October 2023 (UTC)

@Liu1126, here, one of Misplaced Pages policies states:

"Misplaced Pages articles must not contain original research. On Misplaced Pages, original research means material—such as facts, allegations, and ideas—for which no reliable, published source exists. This includes any analysis or synthesis of published material that reaches or implies a conclusion not stated by the sources." Modrenebe (talk) 04:08, 18 October 2023 (UTC)

per Template:Infobox military conflict "this parameter may use one of two standard terms: "X victory" or "Inconclusive"". It's for the immediate military situation. Anything more complicated should refer to the relevant section in the article. The included sources all support Israeli victory, and a link to the aftermath section was already included. The result should be reverted to this state. (Hohum ) 16:08, 17 October 2023 (UTC)

ive never heard of X victory, but it was also a military and political victory for egypt Ali36800p (talk) 17:09, 17 October 2023 (UTC)

Discussion needs to be based on[REDACTED] processes and reliable sources, not editor opinion. (Hohum ) 17:42, 17 October 2023 (UTC)

I agree, and @Liu1126's understanding above is just original research, which shouldn't be included according to Misplaced Pages policy. https://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:No_original_research Modrenebe (talk) 04:10, 18 October 2023 (UTC)

@Hohum: @Modrenebe: I agree with your reasoning. I will revert the result statement back to the original state. Liu1126 (talk) 09:05, 18 October 2023 (UTC)

 Done Liu1126 (talk) 09:09, 18 October 2023 (UTC)

Thanks, but could you also remove the word "military" from "Israeli military victory"? It wasn't there before. Its use can give the impression that Israel only won militarily, while the political or other aspects were not or instead were won by the other parties. Modrenebe (talk) 13:58, 18 October 2023 (UTC)

Done. Sorry, missed that in the last edit. Liu1126 (talk) 14:43, 18 October 2023 (UTC)

 Comment:If it is stated that "At the 1978 Camp David Accords that followed the war", "the war served as a direct antecedent of the 1978 Camp David Accords", it can be a "political success" for Egypt. And the statement " wasn't there before" is wrong, it actually was there for a long time (along with "political gains" for both sides, Camp David Accords and the peace treaty which makes sense). It was removed by Parham wiki quite recently to reconcile with the guidelines regarding the result parameter.--Oloddin (talk) 22:15, 18 October 2023 (UTC)

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Egypt won this war and freed the occupied land of Sinai. 41.35.47.129 (talk) 22:07, 18 October 2023 (UTC)

 Not done for now: As you can see above, a lot of users disagree. Maybe for many people the link between the war and the peace treaty is not straightforward. --Oloddin (talk) 22:19, 18 October 2023 (UTC)

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41.34.158.201 (talk) 08:55, 20 October 2023 (UTC)

The result of this war was the victory of EGYPT

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Egypt won the war

Egypt won the war 41.40.88.17 (talk) 16:06, 20 October 2023 (UTC)

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