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Majorly's RfB

Hi James, thanks for your strong support in my RfB. Sadly, it didn't pass, but I appreciate the support, and especially the fact you had considered me as a candidate before and I do intend to run again eventually. See you around! Majorly _{(o rly?)} 02:35, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

RfA thanks

RfA thanks from Akhilleus

James086, thanks for your support in my successful RfA. As the picture shows, the goddesses have already bestowed my new weapons, which I hope to use to good effect. If you ever need assistance, or want to give me feedback on my use of the admin tools, please leave me a message on my talkpage. --Akhilleus (talk) 17:42, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

Felicia Peacock

Alright so first of all Zackary Lane Castle is my best friend. And second of all i was just trying to make a page about me before I die...everybody needs to feel special...I mean it would it kill you to let me have my own page. I may not understand how all this works but I am willing to listen granted your approach is different. so the next time I need to hear some bigshot[REDACTED] wannabe make me feel like i'm 5...I'll let you know. Normally I would apologize for being this blunt but, lately things are lookin' so good. So have an uber-awesome day! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Feliciapeacock (talk • contribs) 05:31, 8 April 2007 (UTC).

As Jersey Devil said above, articles are for subjects that meet the notability criteria, basically they need sources that are independant and published (like a newspaper or book). I apologise if you felt I treated you like you're 5, it wasn't intended. The message you got from me was a template, designed to be informative but not by any means belittling. I hope I haven't put you off Misplaced Pages and if you have any questions feel free to ask. Thanks, James086 05:36, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

Admin coach?

Saw your name on the list of coach volunteers. I am interested in adminship and wondered if a little pre RfA coaching might help. IvoShandor 13:40, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

Guess not. It's cool. I will query elsewhere.IvoShandor 10:23, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Whoa! No, it's fine. I've been busy today and your message wasn't last on my talk page so I missed it. Sorry about that.

So what reasons would you like to become an admin? That way I can help fine tune specific areas. Nice to meet you by the way. James086 12:30, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Well, since I work on GAs a lot I end up lurking around IFDs a lot and proposing them (not tons but I think that is where I would be most useful as an admin.) I also patrol my watchlist for vandalism, and have had some luck in the past with stopping it from happening on pages that were heavily targetted, such as Kane, Pennsylvania. These are the two areas I could help WP the most as an admin I would say. I am familiar with AfDs and could help out there as well, closing and such. I just would like to know more about these processes, how they work on the admin side of it, what do the admins really do when they close discussions? How do they decide whose supports/opposes to listen to when determining consensus. These things are what I am most curious about. Thanks. 12:31, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Also, AIV and vandal blocks, these places would be great for me and be awesome respite from creating articles (which I also do a lot of but run into dry spells where I just poke around the wiki like a nomad). IvoShandor 12:42, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

My biggest worry about an RfA is an incident I had with a user a couple months ago involving a spammer, who I basically attacked on his talk page. We later made amends and the spammer realized his mistake, but I failed to assume good faith, and got very angry, and lashed out one nite after a couple drinks (which is not a common activity for me, so I kinda lost control that nite). I ended up giving the user a Purple barnstar and he accepted my apology, even offering to treat me to a video game at the arcade whose link he was trying to insert on DeKalb, Illinois. That incident taught me a lot about how not to deal with seemingly "bad" users. But I fear it will be held against me at RfA (which is why I have been, up to now, reluctant to try for it) despite all of my contributions to the project in all namespaces. What do you think? IvoShandor 12:46, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

When closing more difficult debates, like Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Stoopid Monkey (from today's list), it comes down to descretion. I would tend to keep that article based on DHowell's response and the references in the article. There's a process for what to do when closing a deletion debate which explains what to do but judging the result of a debate is sort of hard to explain. I tend to give comments with policies more weight, so if someone points out how article doesn't pass the notability criteria it makes their view more convincing. But that's just me. Make a user subpage and link some XfD debates that are due to end tomorrow and then note how you would close them. eg.

• Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Allegations of Brazilian apartheid - Keep

Though try to pick something a little harder ;)

Could you give me a link to your dispute? If it was sufficiently long ago and you have been civil since, then people shouldn't count it in an RfA (Jeez you reply fast). James086 12:54, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Yeah I am high speed, low drag. I guess. I am on the Wiki and not doing anything really important so I just jump around a lot, saw the messages fast. : ) You should be able to see my attack (and I think this was in Feb) as far as I know I have been civil since, sometimes my tone might get a little condescending, but usually it just gets brushed off, and if I think I have offended someone with a hasty comment I will try to resolve it on their talk page once I realize I have been rash.

For the dispute (and my evil, horrible, mean spirited and unwarranted attack: see: User:JazzButcher, it should stil be up, not sure, didn't look, just remembered. Perhaps the DeKalb talk page as well. For an example of the other stuff see: This comment and this one: User_talk:IvoShandor/Archive_Apr_2007#Fair_use_exemption.

I think that is the only other time when I may have stepped out of line, but again both of these conflicts were resolved amiably. I used the eff word once at FPC, but I felt ganged up on, and didnt use it to refer to anyone, just the FP criteria, despite this I was accused of a personal attack, I just stayed away from there after that, mostly, save a comment or two on delisting noms.

The more I say the more this seems like a bad idea. But those are the three incidents which could be held against me. IvoShandor 13:04, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Okay so the commnent wasn't up, here's the link, you can't miss it, promise, I may not have signed it, I wasn't sober that day and apparently thought I was an OG. : )IvoShandor 13:10, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Those horrible things I said were in Feb. Before that, since early Sept 2006, i hadn't a single incident with anyone, had a few images deleted before I fully understood policy, but those are the only incidents in 7 months of editing, and I have edited a lot. IvoShandor 13:14, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Ouch. That's going to come up in an RfA. I think most people would want you to wait 'til the end of May/early June to go for an RfA (3 months). I can see you are sorry but you might get shot down if you go for an RfA too soon. It's been about a month and a half of good editing with no disputes so that's good. All I can suggest with respect to that is keep up the good work since. Don't try to hide it in an RfA (that will be disasterous), link it and explain what happened. James086 13:25, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

I had no plans to hide it. I will wait til May or June then. Thanks for the help. And I will follow your advice about IfD's and watch them closely until then. IvoShandor 13:31, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

I knew it would be a problem, as I saw some RfAs having items brought up from as long ago as a year. Oh well, it's not that big of deal, adminship, I mean. Maybe I will just forget about and keep working on the project as I have been. IvoShandor 13:33, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

By June you should be fine. It will probably raise concerns but I think that you'll be alright. There's no rush and some people get opposed for being too eager to become admins. Don't give up if you do want to be an admin, it's not like becoming a bureaucrat (I'd hate to go through that process). You should be fine in a month or 2. If that's the only mishap on your record then given time it will blow over. James086 13:47, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

FYI

You forgot to close the ref tag at Enzo Ferrari, leading to a rather drastic change in the article. I do that a lot, so I can't blame you, but I would suggest either previewing before or checking after saving your edits. Thanks. Λυδαcιτγ 23:04, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

Yeah I do that sometimes. I think I was in the middle of it and got distracted. Thanks for clearing up after me. James086 04:34, 10 April 2007 (UTC)