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== Two Halls of Fame in player infobox ==

With ] being voted into the ] today, editors have simply removed the ] section from his infobox because the USA Hall "takes priority". If he is in two Halls of Fame, then I believe the infobox should clearly reflect that, either by creating a second Hall section or by combining them somehow in the current Hall section in the infobox. Thoughts? --]<sup>]</sup> 01:20, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

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baseballbiography.com

What is the opinion of the above website? It is linked to 1,023 baseball pages. It doesn't appear to add any unique info, it doesn't reference any of their info to anything, it doesn't appear to have any significance to any reputable organization, it appears to be nothing more than an extension of a blog. On digging a bit deeper, I find it may have originally been baseballlibrary.com, which has 2,215 dead links in articles. I am of the mind that both of these links should be removed en mass by a bot. What are some other opinions? Rgrds. --BX (talk) 01:57, 2 January 2025 (UTC)

Given what I currently know, I support mass removal. If any editor can provide more insight/context and believes it should be retained... please add comment. Dmoore5556 (talk) 02:45, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
@BX and Dmoore5556: From searching the archives, it looks like this has been discussed before. It's probably worth reviewing those discussions. Left guide (talk) 04:40, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
From what I just saw, prior discussions did not involve a lot of editors, but comments were negative about the site, except for one in 2010. Dmoore5556 (talk) 04:55, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
I continue to have the same viewpoint: without any documentation of its authors or its editorial control, the site doesn't provide enough information to be able to evaluate its reliability. isaacl (talk) 07:23, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
Will reiterate I said back in October and agree with those above. Don't see how these links can stand with the state that website is in and the lack of value it contributes as a source. Penale52 (talk) 02:28, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

@Left guide: Thanks for the previous discussion links. It appears that baseballlibrary.com has been usurped since maybe 2015 (according to the last crawl by wayback on a few random pages), but it does include a list of authors with their credentials and each players' blurb is credited with initials. Unfortunately, some authors are credentialed but some are nobodys. Those may be salvageable if InternetArchiveBot links the archived page, but are they really worth it?

Regarding baseballbiography.com, per Isaacl, I'm convinced that all links (external links and references) to it should be removed ASAP. If there are no objections in the coming days I'll see if a bot could do it. Rgrds. --BX (talk) 23:19, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

BaseballLibrary.com could arguably meet WP:USEDBYOTHERS, but it's not the case with baseballbiography.comBagumba (talk) 04:15, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
I remember using baseballlibrary/baseballbiography way back in the day when there wasn't much else out there, but yeah I wouldn't consider it reliable personally. I keep meaning to one day go through my old DYKs and weed out those refs, might be easier to just semi-automatically replace them all with cn tags if we have a consensus that it's not reliable. Wizardman 22:37, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

Ottawa Titans

Would someone like to improve the Ottawa Titans article? Copyright violations from the Titans' web site keep getting added. I rewrote a little bit of it this time, but I don't have enough interest/energy to do more. Any help would be appreciated! isaacl (talk) 02:01, 8 January 2025 (UTC)

The copyrighted text was re-inserted again. If anyone would like to help with filling in more of the Titans' history, that would be great! isaacl (talk) 01:20, 14 January 2025 (UTC)

Adding OPS and WHIP to League Leaders section in MLB seasonal articles?

Over the past few years, OPS has become a more preferred go-to offensive stat to batting average" measuring a hitter's offensive output, and many ballparks highlight a hitter's OPS over AVG, as per publications like The Sporting News, Chicago Sun-Times, and Yahoo! Sports. Misplaced Pages should catch up with the focus that the MLB world has for OPS over AVG by including it in their seasonal articles.

WHIP as a stat has been in mainstream baseball usage for a while now (as per The New York Times). As a means to have both the 'Hitting leaders' and 'Pitching leaders' with seven statistics, I think WHIP as a stat is the next-best stat that could be added to Pitching leaders.

I think OPS is used more than WHIP these days, though I'd like it so

I've bolded the additional stats in what the League leaders section for the 2024 MLB season would look like:

American League

Hitting leaders
Stat Player Total
AVG Bobby Witt Jr. (KC) .332
OPS Aaron Judge (NYY) 1.159
HR Aaron Judge (NYY) 58
RBI Aaron Judge (NYY) 144
R Juan Soto (NYY) 128
H Bobby Witt Jr. (KC) 211
SB José Caballero (TB) 44
Pitching leaders
Stat Player Total
W Tarik Skubal (DET) 18
L Kutter Crawford (BOS) 16
ERA Tarik Skubal (DET) 2.39
K Tarik Skubal (DET) 228
IP Seth Lugo (KC) 206.2
SV Emmanuel Clase (CLE) 47
WHIP Logan Gilbert (SEA) 0.887

National League

Hitting leaders
Stat Player Total
AVG Luis Arráez (SD)/(MIA) .314
OPS Shohei Ohtani (LAD) 1.036
HR Shohei Ohtani (LAD) 54
RBI Shohei Ohtani (LAD) 130
R Shohei Ohtani (LAD) 134
H Luis Arráez (SD)/(MIA) 200
SB Elly De La Cruz (CIN) 67
Pitching leaders
Stat Player Total
W Chris Sale (ATL) 18
L Jake Irvin (WSH) 14
ERA Chris Sale (ATL) 2.38
K Chris Sale (ATL) 225
IP Logan Webb (SF) 204.2
SV Ryan Helsley (STL) 49
WHIP Zack Wheeler (PHI) 0.955

Spesh531 20:45, 13 January 2025 (UTC)

Good article reassessment for Mets–Phillies rivalry

Mets–Phillies rivalry has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Z1720 (talk) 23:41, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

Sasaki announcement

FYI

You are invited to join a related discussion regarding Roki Sasaki's announcement at Template talk:Current sports transaction § Proposed template wording change re: player/agent announcementsBagumba (talk) 02:23, 18 January 2025 (UTC)

Two Halls of Fame in player infobox

With Ichiro Suzuki being voted into the National Baseball Hall of Fame and Museum today, editors have simply removed the Japanese Baseball Hall of Fame section from his infobox because the USA Hall "takes priority". If he is in two Halls of Fame, then I believe the infobox should clearly reflect that, either by creating a second Hall section or by combining them somehow in the current Hall section in the infobox. Thoughts? --Torsodog 01:20, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

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