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Terence Koh

Someone who claims to be this artist's personal assistant is attempting to change the year of birth. I'm not sure what the policy is for verifying birth dates. But there's WP:COI and WP:BLP issues. I suggested he contact you (hope you don't mind). Thanks. freshacconcispeaktome 22:36, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. I have a very specific reason to be doubtful of the whole thing, which I can't go into publicly. This person seemed to want to deal with this via email so I sent him your way. freshacconcispeaktome 23:04, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

My noms

I don't think you saw the humour in the statement.. nevermind.
Anyhow, I will soon be taking Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Andersen Windows to deletion review, as far as I can see, the article is spam in its current form and the company is N/N per WP:CORP.<
Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Jeremy Wafer seems to be quite notable, however i'm not sorry I did nominate as dramatic improvements to the article are now being made, although the nomination was made in good faith.
Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Distributed Art Publishers is clearly N/N per WP:CORP if it goes Keep i'll def. take to deletion review as the company is in no way notable.
In all cases, I take deletion seriously. As far as is practicable I try to ascertain whether the article in question belongs on Misplaced Pages according to relevant guidelines. However, if you have any further compaints/comments, etc feel free to take them up with me.
Yours - Ļıßζېấשּׂ~ۘ Ώƒ ﻚĢęخ (talk) 23:46, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

oops! I'm sorry about putting it on your user page, mistake =) -- Ļıßζېấשּׂ~ۘ Ώƒ ﻚĢęخ (talk) 00:15, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

Yes, I think I might take up your suggestion and change the joke a little. Anyhow, thank you for the discussion. I'm aware that I may make a few controversial AFDs and i'm unrepentent about that and shall keep making them until I can press "random article" 100 times and not find an article that doesn't belong on Misplaced Pages. -- Ļıßζېấשּׂ~ۘ Ώƒ ﻚĢęخ (talk) 00:56, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for reverting vandalism on my talk page.Λua∫Wise 09:15, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

Rollback

Thanks for adding the rollback function. I'll try to use it responsibly.--Ethicoaestheticist (talk) 21:49, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

Thank you

For bestowing the rollback option, which I will implement with a combination of humility and glee. I will take a look at it when I have more time--I'm off to teach. JNW (talk) 22:44, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for supporting the proposal to nominate me as an administrator. I did decline, but I am flattered by the suggestion. For the moment, the plan is to continue making occasional edits and chasing vandals. Cheers, JNW (talk) 06:35, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

Jeremy Wafer

Done, a good result for all =). -- Ļıßζېấשּׂ~ۘ Ώƒ ﻚĢęخ (talk) 23:33, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

I'll try to use it wisely... freshacconcispeaktome 01:50, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

Referencing assistance

Ty, who to I set out a ref that I got from a newspaper which doesnt have a web link (its from 1919). regards--Vintagekits (talk) 21:42, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

<ref>{{cite news | title = Irish struggle long backed in Hartford | work = ] | date = ] ] }}</ref>. One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 21:44, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

Dadildo! --Vintagekits (talk) 22:03, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

NPA

I got your message and I agree. Sorry I didn't chase it up myself. --John (talk) 03:09, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

Hey Tyr. I just wanted to thank you for taking the initiative over the Vk issue. This is just about the most pertinent thing I have read in a year of this and succinctly sums up what I have been trying to say - not very well - using many-fold more words.

Just to reassure you, your comment is exactly what I want and, should he decide to listen too you, I would embrace any good faith efforts from Vk. I'm even willing to meet him part of the way, if he can begin to show good faith and persistently work in a civilized manner, in time I will begin to remove articles that overlap on our shared watch list (assuming there are other regular editors to keep an eye on those pages) thereby minimizing our sphere of overlap. I'm willing to do this, essentially restrict my own editing rather than ask him to restrict his, as a gesture of goodwill. But only if he can cut the incivility, abuse and snide remarks out completely and permanently. Rockpocket 21:48, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

Unblock Vintagekits

Can you please unblock him? He was obviously being provoked and that should be taken into account. I notice that when Kittybrewster and Astrotrain cause trouble they are never censured. Vintagekits has done a massive amount of work on Irish articles and made high quality articles on the Troubles. He has a large talent and this should be fostered and not attacked. Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.192.185.211 (talk) 12:24, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

There was no obvious provocation, unless you call editing[REDACTED] provocative. Well, you don't notice much do you? Partisan view lacking objectivity, hence discardable: Astrotrain block log, Kittybrewster block log. I recognise Vintagekits' contributions, which is why I bothered to interrupt my Saturday night to post on his talk page, but he has not taken up the offer to be unblocked yet by removing specified material from his user pages. If you want to be taken seriously, sign in and don't use a sock account. Tyrenius (talk) 14:02, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

Ab Ex

I find the inclusion of the Gorky highly misleading as a visual presentation of Ab Ex, and its only relevance to the movement is within Gorky's work as showing the initial signs of his later development. Surely a mature Gorky fits the bill. This painting sits much better as a derivation of Picasso's classical period. There are other dubious inclusions, e.g. Alexander Calder whose article doesn't even mention Ab Ex. I suggest copying all this to Talk:Abstract expressionism and holding discussions there. Tyrenius (talk) 15:34, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

Done, Modernist (talk) 15:41, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

(added response) I actually think both Arshile Gorky and Alexander Calder belong here, if for no other reason than they are both important and seminal influences on the advent of American abstract expressionism. The Gorky actually is a forerunner of the developement of a type of Abstract expressionism, a little beyond the Picasso derived influence. Modernist (talk) 15:40, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

Ireland

Have you seen this, it requires a admin to undo.--Padraig (talk) 15:52, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks.--Padraig (talk) 16:02, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

Template:Non-free promotional discussion

Hello, Tyrenius. Since you recently contributed to the lively deletion discussion for Template:Non-free promotional, I thought I'd let you know that I've continued the discussion about this template at Misplaced Pages talk:Non-free content#Template:Non-free promotional. The result of the deletion discussion was to keep the template, but there are still some questions about whether the current template serves a useful purpose and how to prevent its misapplication. Please contribute to the discussion if you are interested. —Bkell (talk) 17:55, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

My Rfa

My effort to regain adminship was unsuccessful, and I'll do what I can to ensure your opinion of my suitability for adminship improves. Thank you for taking some time out of your day to voice your opinion.--MONGO 04:58, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

Need help

Hi, I've found this voice and this redirect, but they are totally unreal, this player has never existed. What can I do? I'm not so expert about vandalism, I don't know what to do. Thanks TøW€®MªN ™ _{answer me} 08:46, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

Domenico Lammardo for sure, Reiner Hasan I've never heard before, I think it's a fake too...244 games for the Italy U-21, unbelievable! TøW€®MªN ™ _{answer me} 15:15, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the help and for the links!I've also written more infos here...TøW€®MªN ™ _{answer me} 15:56, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/The Elephant House

Sure, put me on the spot. I'll have to do some searching--I'll add it in when I find it. freshacconcispeaktome 21:08, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

Ferlinghetti

Try flickr. --evrik  21:45, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

I suggest you dont tamper with my user or talk pages in future

Ronseal.--Vintagekits (talk) 21:47, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

VA team

Just been there! Shouldn't we both go to bed? Johnbod (talk) 03:11, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

Template:Infobox Artist

Hi Tyrenius. I've posted a reply to your Village pump (technical) question. DH85868993 (talk) 07:20, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

Hi Tyrenius. Actually, I wouldn't have deleted the "bgcolour" line from the sample template; I think it's better to leave it there so that people can use it (or remove it) according to their needs. The template doc says to omit this parameter if you want the default blue colour. The imagesize parameter is a little bit different; if people leave it as "| imagesize = ", then they will get the default image size. Incidentally, User:Lanovsky appears to have messed up the template's doc page back on the 14th of August by substituting values for the parameter names (e.g. they replaced "name" with "Frederic Lanovsky"). I'd suggest this was a mistaken good-faith edit; they probably meant to edit a transclusion of the template, but ended up editing the template (doc) itself. I recommend reverting the doc page to the version of 11th August, but with the current list of interwiki links. I'd do it myself, but you protected it. DH85868993 (talk) 08:54, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

I've fixed up the template doc page. Regarding bgcolour, I made the note about removing that parameter if you want the default colour, bold, so that (hopefully) people should notice it. DH85868993 (talk) 09:18, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

Hi again Tyrenius. I notice you changed the "famous works" parameter to "key works". Did you actually mean to change the name of the parameter? Or did you just mean to update the text that gets displayed in the infobox? If you change the actual name of the parameter, you will need to go and update all the articles that transclude the template, most of which have populated that parameter. DH85868993 (talk) 11:16, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

I've reverted the change for the moment. A change like this which affects so many articles should probably be discussed with the relevant WikiProject (probably Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Visual arts) first. DH85868993 (talk) 13:40, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

Thank you very much for fixing the box on my user page. What was I doing wrong? Regards, David Lauder (talk) 11:28, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks so much for your very useful and completely voluntary info on repetitive references. I think I've 'got it' now. At least that particular little niggle. Plenty more, I'm sure... Nicstick (talk) 14:17, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

Thankyou for your help with the Alyson Hunter page. References re her work in printmaking books published will be sent to Naiz Feministart (talk) 11:30, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

Defastenism

Dear Sir/Madam, Thanks for your information regarding my "vandalism". I'm genuinely sorry that I seem to altering the information currently displayed but much of it is either wrong or biased. Once again,I must remind you that Padraic E.Moore does not wish to be labelled as Christy Moore's son in this context. The Defastenists did not show at the Irish Museum of Modern Art. That was a misprint in Irish Times in which an architectural critic was asked about the cutural highlights of 2006. Several comments were mistakenly combined in the editing process. Furthermore,the information regarding the Celebration on the Guinness estate is reductive and misleading as is much of the description of the groups continued practice. This group of practitioners have effectively been misrepresented by this entry. If I make some changes in the coming weeks and subsantiate them according to sources etc,will they be retained? regards, Franz B —Preceding unsigned comment added by Franz Biberkopf (talk • contribs)

Calton's hatred of MyWikiBiz

Seems to be overruling the consensus of three four admins and a couple of other editors. -- Shelborne Concierge (talk) 14:12, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

Venus

Hi Tyrenius, as you were so helpful with Las Meninas would you mind turning your glare towards Rokeby Venus. JNW, Johnbod and myself are going to turn to it soon enough, and all donations will be gratefully accepted. You wont be able to give up your day job on the strenght of it, but it might be worth a look nonetheless. Ceoil (talk) 00:28, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks Tyrenius for my new handy button. Ceoil (talk) 01:06, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Ok, thanks. Stand well back! Johnbod (talk) 01:16, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

WP:Miscellany_for_deletion/User:BQZip01/Comments#User:BQZip01.2FComments

If you remember, you weighed in on the use of user pages to draft a future RFC, and whether such use might count as an attack page if not promptly converted from a personal on-wiki collection of evidence about a person into an actual RFC or ArbCom case. The above is an ongoing discussion of one such user page; part of the question is what counts as a "reasonable" period of time to bring the RFC or delete the draft. (Opinions differ from "a few days" to "several months.") The discussion seems to be floundering a bit on what this policy means, so, if you're interested, I thought you might have input to add. (If not, sorry to bug you.) Thanks. --TheOtherBob 15:33, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Rollback grantings

Heh, it seems the text I used was worded well. :) Anyway, I noticed you've been granting rollback, and so I thought that you might want to know that two userspace template messages, User:Acalamari/Rollback and User:NoSeptember/Rollback, are available if you want to give a message informing someone if you've given them rollback. Thanks. Acalamari 18:21, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

You're welcome! Yes, you're right about there being some users who aren't able to become admins for various reasons but would benefit from having rollback: in the rollback proposal, one of the common reasons for opposition was that anyone who was trusted with rollback could be trusted with all the tools. In reality, there have been many users who have run through RfA who clearly know how to use rollback correctly, but are often opposed for either not enough article-writing experience or lack of knowledge of the deletion and/or blocking policies. Acalamari 21:22, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Agreed. :) Acalamari 21:34, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Response

...on MfD page. Thanks for your input. — BQZip01 —  19:33, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Admin misconduct.

I don't know Sarah, it's not about her. OrderinChaos, however...
In November a non-encyclopedic discussion started on an Australian Election discussion page. It was started by Timeshift who claimed he didn't care that he was breaking the rules. Unfortunately, to stop the discussion I broke the 3RR rule. Someone else agreed and also deleted the conversation. Nearly a day later, OrderinChaos reverted the conversation and tried to continue it and reported me for the 3RR breach, getting me banned. In the process of trying to remove the ban (which, of course, I couldn't because I had breached the 3RR rule) other Admins became involved. Because of this, the conversation was again removed, and it was pointed out to OrderinChaos by another Admin that he was in the wrong to have returned it. This occured on Timeshift's page and he has a habit of removing any talk that portrays him badly. I saved the thread, which includes the comments made to OrderinChaos, and despite the fact that yet another Admin said that I was within my rights to keep it, he likes to bring in up whenever we meet. Ever since then, whenever Timeshift has a problem with me, OrderinChaos gets involved. This time, they joked on his page about him having to "slap me around" last time.
That's my beef with OrderinChaos. I doubt whether it's actionable, being circumstantial and requiring a dropping of Good Faith, so what's the point in making a complaint?
Duggy 1138 (talk) 04:41, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

I'm sorry, yes, Block, not Ban.

I broke WP:3RR. I thought I made it clear in the above that that was the case and that I accept that I did wrong. Sorry I wasn't clear.

I know that users are allow to remove anything from their talk page, that's a side issue here. And yes, I know you're not allow to replace it. This is what I was pointing out to RObOX.

Sorry, I honestly remember it as "Slap him around" looking again, it wasn't... and I notice that he inserted a clarification higher in the thread 15 minutes after I addressed it. I won't say he deliberately hid it, but I will say that can see why I didn't see it at the time of the discussion.

What is the difference between arguing and trying to clarify or seeking clarification? I feel that I've been trying to clear things up. The stuff on OrderInChaos page, I feel is more a result of the fact that Timeshift removes comment from his page. You can't address him there, so when you both turn up in another place, the stuff that should be in his page boils over.

OrderInChaos's bias in Timeshift's favour (as represented by him being told he was wrong by two separate admins in relation to parts of incidents between myself and Timeshift on two separate occations), of course, didn't help things.

Duggy 1138 (talk) 05:32, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

Of course, I feel I'm always right, I wouldn't do what I did if I thought it was wrong. Good faith assumes benefit of the doubt, I thought.

I did read it as "Slap him around", and I replied in that vain, and his clarification wasn't put in the best place.

"I notice that he inserted a clarification higher in the thread 15 minutes after I addressed it." Well, he did. I'm sure he did so in good faith. It was just a really bad place to put it, and I *can* see why I didn't see it at the time.

"I feel that I've been trying to clear things up." "Clarify thing" would be better wording, that doesn't make me sound like I'm the better man. I'm not.

"I won't say he deliberately hid it", because I am giving him the benefit of the doubt.

"The stuff on OrderInChaos page, I feel is more a result of the fact that Timeshift removes comment from his page." Well, I feel that it was mostly there because me and Timeshift were arguing on it. Chaos added to things, but it's his page so he should, but I really think it got out of hand because of me and Timeshift. I think the main reason that me and Timeshift were doing it on his page and not Timeshifts is because Timeshift deletes. But it was *me* and Timeshift. Not just Timeshift. Chaos was the victim of our behaviour.

"OrderInChaos's bias in Timeshift's favour" Yes, that is what we are discussing here. You asked me to report OrderInChaos, I'm asking if it's worth doing, or don't I have enough?

"I suggest you rethink." I think I need to reclarify. Sometimes I'm not clear in what I say, which is why I need to re-reply to things to fix mistakes in what I said in my original reply.

Duggy 1138 (talk) 05:55, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

Sorry to reply here, even though you asked me not to. I've replied in full on my talk page, and hope to see you there.

Duggy 1138 (talk) 06:14, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

If you have a moment

I was writing an article on a really interesting guy, and one of my favourite writers, Tony Geraghty. See if you can improve it. --John (talk) 05:48, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

{{Oldprodfull}}

Hello, Tyrenius ... please see this talk page and tell me what you think of my newly created Template:Oldprodfull ... would you use it, or update it if you encountered it?

Also, what are your thoughts on my proposed WP:FLAG-BIO protocol?

Happy Editing! — 72.75.72.63 (talk · contribs) _{14:31, 11 February 2008 (UTC)}

advice

I am new to wikipedia, but I think I have a problem with another "member." Correct me if I am wrong, but the way these dynamic encyclopedias work, is that proper names and concepts should be "linked" even if there is no page as yet. That way when someone creates that page, all the previous references will link to it. I just wrote an article and someone came and removed all the links to as yet empty pages. Even the ones I was meaning to work on. This doesn't seem to make any sense. I am sure there are no bots to go around "linkifying" references at a later date. How do I deal with this user? I'm afraid to say "boo" because I am terrified of encouraging vandalism. EraserGirl (talk) 21:09, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

May I remove comments from my (talk) page? I am slightly disturbed that my first contact with another[REDACTED] "editor" was as a target of mockery. I have browsed other talk pages and found that being attacked is not uncommon. I don't want to give others the impression that I am belligerent and perhaps invite future conflict. EraserGirl (talk) 16:46, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

thank you for your advice. EraserGirl (talk) 18:54, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Creamy3

Hi Tyrenius, thanks for your comments but I think that EraserGirl can defend herself. I'm being very civil about this. Thanks again. Creamy3 (talk) 21:27, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Star

You deserve it! I have this translation of J.J. Navarro : http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=es&u=http://www.elmundo.es/papel/2003/05/18/cultura/1397774.html&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=2&ct=result&prev=/search%3Fq%3Ddoris%2Bdownes%2Bel%2Bmundo%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26hs%3DvQ0%26sa%3DG

I also have the D.M. but I had to pay for it in order to get it out of the archives. I will do a search in my files (and hope I still have) and forward that as well as other sources. Thanks for clarifying the Afd and notability. (An aside: I am working on an article about Agnes Pelton and was surprised someone else had not started a bio.)Annlanding (talk) 22:22, 11 February 2008 (UTC)Annlanding

DM is Dolors Massot, the author of the ABC piece. Sorry for the initials. Annlanding (talk) 20:24, 12 February 2008 (UTC)Annlanding

Log Off

I will remember to log off whenever I'm done but like I said, my brother Adam knows my old password and logged on. Thanks. Creamy3 (talk) 20:42, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Women artists

Hi Tyrenius. Would you like to take a look at the last few entries to the talk page for Women artists ? I think that a section for 21st century artists is appropriate , but needs a better world-view, and you might be able to add some good names, and improve the passage in general. Jenny Saville, anyone? Cheers, JNW (talk) 03:46, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

More socks

Misplaced Pages:Requests for checkuser/Case/Sussexman - might need to be a bit of a discussion about the way forward from this one? One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 09:18, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

I dunno. I'd have assumed that Sussexman's unblock request would now be shot down in flames, the two confirmeds to be blocked as sockpuppets of a banned editor, and discussion on the other possibly on TER, especially with regards to COI? Is there really much else to discuss? One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 15:58, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Your idea of disruption

What is more disruptive to this wiki project - having deep undercover sock that you have used on every issue for over a year or telling someone to f*&$ off. Let's see ya now!--Vintagekits (talk) 09:55, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

It's not a competition! Obviously neither is helpful. Tyrenius (talk) 15:59, 13 February 2008 (UTC)