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{{unblock|Reviewing admin states that I would not have been blocked had I not brought this dispute to en:Misplaced Pages. I have provided evidence that I was not the one who brought this dispute here (see above). Note that, though brought here by ], the dispute does not relate to en:Misplaced Pages. Furthermore, note the objections to this block by experienced admins at ], that I did not in fact make a threat, and finally that no legal action is brought against Misplaced Pages.}} | {{unblock|Reviewing admin states that I would not have been blocked had I not brought this dispute to en:Misplaced Pages. I have provided evidence that I was not the one who brought this dispute here (see above). Note that, though brought here by ], the dispute does not relate to en:Misplaced Pages. Furthermore, note the objections to this block by experienced admins at ], that I did not in fact make a threat, and finally that no legal action is brought against Misplaced Pages.}} | ||
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::The link provided by Guido points to an edit by Oscar that was a reply to a question of Davidruben (admin on the English Misplaced Pages) on Oscars talk page on the Dutch Misplaced Pages. I already explained that yesterday on this page, but my comment was removed by Guido with the edit summary "guideline says don't discuss the situation now". I cannot find any guideline on this wiki stating "don't discuss the situation now" so please don't remove this message. - ] (]) 08:36, 8 July 2008 (UTC) | ||
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Da Costa's syndrome
Guido den Broeder; Thankyou for your note about other editors questions of synonym usage on 30-5-08; I have responded to your suggestion on 30-5-08 here and on 1-6-08 here Posturewriter (talk) 08:16, 1 June 2008 (UTC)posturewriter
- You're welcome. The general rule is that diagnoses should only be considered equivalent (never: 'the same') if there is significant consensus about it among experts. Note that the WHO classification (ICD10, the ICD9-CM is not a WHO product) is often misinterpreted. If two diagnoses are listed under one number, this does, in contrast to what many people think, not imply that they are equivalent, just that they belong to the same group. I practice, two diagnoses being equivalent is extremely rare. What usually happens is that old diagnoses get either combined or split. For instance, while Da Costa's syndrome cases are always Effort syndrome cases, Effort syndrome is not always Da Costa's. Guido den Broeder (talk) 08:30, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
Guido den Broeder; Thankyou for your comments about Da Costa’s Syndrome on your talk page on the paragraph of 1-6-08 just above. I agree, and have responded to them on the Da Costa talk page on 8-6-08 here to avoid duplicationPosturewriter (talk) 09:15, 8 June 2008 (UTC)posturewriter
ANI notices
Hey, thanks for leaving those ANI notices! I mentioned it, hoping someone else would take up the unfinished business, and it is nice to see that happening. Have you had a chance to look at any chess articles recently? Carcharoth (talk) 21:05, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
- You're welcome! I have little time for content this month, but I plan to return to editing and will look at some chess articles, too. Guido den Broeder (talk) 21:26, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
Re: your rfc
If sanctions or blocks (preventative measures) are applied for those issues noted in the RFC, then it is closed and has served its purpose. It's to indicate you were blocked (after the creation of the RFC and) for the same concerns expressed in the RFC - it doesn't necessarily mean you are still blocked or were a blocked as a result of the RFC. If the same problematic conduct were to continue, then it would go to the next step - arbitration. Does that clear it up for you? Ncmvocalist (talk) 08:25, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
- I was, however, not blocked for the concerns expressed in the RfC. Nor did the RfC conclude that there was a 'problematic conduct' by me. Guido den Broeder (talk) 09:11, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
- Your block log indicates "further reinserting links to own work despite repeated cautions to take care over COI" Ncmvocalist (talk) 18:07, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
- That may be so, but that was not an outcome of the RfC. Furthermore, this edit by me was based on consensus reached and is still standing. Note that the dispute was already resolved when I got blocked, that admin blocking admitted he misinterpreted the guideline on sources, and that I had not violated WP:3RR. Guido den Broeder (talk) 08:17, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
- Your block log indicates "further reinserting links to own work despite repeated cautions to take care over COI" Ncmvocalist (talk) 18:07, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
AN/I section about you
I have started the discussion Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Complicated legal threat situation about your situation. Fram (talk) 08:48, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
- In light of the information presented there, I have indefinitely blocked you on this project. Fut.Perf. ☼ 08:57, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
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Request reason:
Some explanation is in order here. I have not made a legal threat, but I have announced legal action against Oscar by email, as nl:guidelines require in such a case. It is customary on nl:Misplaced Pages that during a legal procedure, the filing side is blocked, with seems reasonable to me. On en:Misplaced Pages, there does not exist a similar conflict. I apologize for briefly addressing the nl:Misplaced Pages situation on Oscar's en:talk page, but this was a one-time necessity because I could not post on nl:Misplaced Pages since I was blocked by him (in contrast to here, a blocked user's talk page can't be edited by the user), and for legal reasons, I had to give him a final chance. Now that the legal trajectory has started, I will not post anything relating to it until its conclusion. I would like to hear a second opinion, since it does not seem logical to me that I would be blocked on en:Misplaced Pages for something related only to nl:Misplaced Pages. However, if this is the custom here, then so be it. Protecting my legal rights and good name far outweighs my desire to contribute to en:Misplaced Pages. Guido den Broeder (talk) 09:08, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
Decline reason:
WP:NLT very clearly states that you will be blocked from editing Misplaced Pages while you are attempting legal action. Had you not brought this dispute to the English Misplaced Pages, you would not have been blocked. As you have made use of the English Misplaced Pages to evade the nl. block, I completely agree that the block here is correct. Sam Korn 10:18, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
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- I did not not bring this dispute to en:Misplaced Pages, thanks. It was brought here quite a while earlier by several users from nl:Misplaced Pages, including Oscar himself. By contacting Oscar I was merely following policy. Guido den Broeder (talk) 11:01, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
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- The link provided by Guido points to an edit by Oscar that was a reply to a question of Davidruben (admin on the English Misplaced Pages) on Oscars talk page on the Dutch Misplaced Pages. I already explained that yesterday on this page, but my comment was removed by Guido with the edit summary "guideline says don't discuss the situation now". I cannot find any guideline on this wiki stating "don't discuss the situation now" so please don't remove this message. - Robotje (talk) 08:36, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
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