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1783 in Spain

Hello, I'm not entirely happy with the above article, are you going to do a project for every year in Spain? If not, this article will be lonely and soon be deleted, I'm afraid. Shoombooly (talk) 21:43, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

True, but i wondered if you'd also create the other years in Spain...will you? otherwise it's so lonely! (i don't like orphaned pages :) Shoombooly (talk) 23:29, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Stubs are great, gives others opportunity to help. You could start your own project. Shoombooly (talk) 23:47, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Move of Gasparillo Island

Juswt wanted to let you know that I haved moved the article to Gasparillo Island. Thanks, --Meldshal42 (talk) 12:10, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Your new Trinidad articles

Hello! I was just doing New Page Patrol and I was stamping your new Trinidad articles for approval. I just wanted to drop a line and say "Thanks!" for bringing this Trinidad information to Misplaced Pages -- you are doing a fine job in expanding the Caribbean coverage. I have also added WikiProject templates to the articles, and you may wish to consider doing this on your future contributions. Be well, and keep up the good work. Ecoleetage (talk) 12:35, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

In appreciation of your work regarding Trinidad's coverage on Misplaced Pages, please accept this as a token of my appreciation:

		The Original Barnstar
		In tribute to your invaluable work in expanding the depth and scope of Caribbean coverage on Misplaced Pages.Ecoleetage (talk) 13:09, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Keep it up, busy is good. Do you have some connecting to TT? Guettarda (talk) 21:20, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

The Irish Descendants

This is an automated message from CorenSearchBot. I have performed a web search with the contents of The Irish Descendants, and it appears to include a substantial copy of http://www.irishdescendants.com/band.html. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other web sites or printed material; such additions will be deleted. You may use external websites as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences.

This message was placed automatically, and it is possible that the bot is confused and found similarity where none actually exists. If that is the case, you can remove the tag from the article and it would be appreciated if you could drop a note on the maintainer's talk page. CorenSearchBot (talk) 12:39, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

• Yes, your bot is confused. Badly. Bwilkins (talk) 13:32, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

Don't give up

Hello! I removed the Speedy Delete tags, and suggested the editor take the articles to AfD if he wants erasure. The problem with New Page Patrols is that some editors are too eager to delete. I know, I used to be one of them. That's why I now add WikiProject templates where applicable to patrolled pages. If you need any further help, just whistle. Ecoleetage (talk) 13:33, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

Here is a neat trick to avoid a reprise: never put up a new article unless you have all of your independently confirmable sources in place. The problem is that these appear to be works in progress -- that will open you to tagging. I never put up a new article unless I have my references and links in place. Thanks! Ecoleetage (talk) 13:40, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

I am leaving a message for that editor (and you, too) on his page. Ecoleetage (talk) 13:52, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

Everything seems to have turned out well. Enjoy the day!

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Your recent edits

Hi there. In case you didn't know, when you add content to talk pages and Misplaced Pages pages that have open discussion, you should sign your posts by typing four tildes ( ~~~~ ) at the end of your comment. If you can't type the tilde character, you should click on the signature button located above the edit window. This will automatically insert a signature with your name and the time you posted the comment. This information is useful because other editors will be able to tell who said what, and when. Thank you! --SineBot (talk) 17:14, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

Dear SineBot: I know you're just a bot, but BUGGER OFF, it's been a long week (and people have been p-ing me off extremely today with their unjust deletions!)  :-P self-signed by Bwilkins (talk) 17:35, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

Heather

Fragments of Jade has taken that quote you got about Heather being named after the actress to mean that she was given her last name as well. I completely agree with you that that's not the case though. Thanks for looking into the situation. I can create a mini article on the actress if you'd like, she apparently did some voice work for SH4 as well - that might help beef it up a bit. Thanks again. --Thaddius (talk) 12:57, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

I added the header, I don't know if you noticed. I think\hope I removed all of the info that mentions me personally. I'm hoping that this will give more credence to the 'no last name' side of things, but it might end up as evidence of 'Mason'. --Thaddius (talk) 16:40, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

You didn't go overboard. I just don't think FoJ is going to listen to reason or stop believing that that e-mail is actual proof. Cake guy asked me to avoid that argument anyhow. Our argument has been made and the article says what you, waka, 88 and I are pushing for so there really isn't much reason to keep being goaded on by FoJ. --Thaddius (talk) 15:44, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of The Irish Descendants

A tag has been placed on The Irish Descendants requesting that it be speedily deleted from Misplaced Pages. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a band, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is notable: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not indicate the subject's importance or significance may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, as well as our subject-specific notability guideline for musical topics.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hangon}} to the top of the page that has been nominated for deletion (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the article meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would would render it more in conformance with Misplaced Pages's policies and guidelines. Lastly, please note that if the article does get deleted, you can contact one of these admins to request that a copy be emailed to you. -- ] (] · ]) 15:40, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

False Warning

Your message to my talk pagewas a false accusation of vandalism, and completely inappropriate. The band member listing are nearly word from word from the official site. Adding the word "on" does not make it any less so. You want to disagree with the removal, fine, but do not level out right false accusations of vandalism against me just because you disagree. --  (] · ]) 21:26, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

I'm allowed to remove messages from my talk page, particularly unwarranted ones, and its rude to put them back. I'm under no obligation to respond at all. You could have simply said what you said in you second message (POLITELY) and reverted. The accusations of vandalism and personal attacks were beyond unwarranted. Don't take your bad day out on me. Why not re-read WP:AGF and WP:CIVILITY while you have a cup of WP:TEA. -- ] (] · ]) 21:38, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

Ladies and gentlemen, the above is what happens when you post a CIVIL message stating that it appears someone did vandalism to a page. They get snotty. Remember this when you edit Misplaced Pages. BMW(drive) 21:47, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

You may have felt your original message was civil, but it was not. Civil does not have the header of "Your edits to The Irish Descendants - Vandalism" and basically rewording the level 1 vandalism template to avoid templating a regular. It was rude and completely unnecessary. You started the snottiness with such a blatantly false accusation. I have never vandalized an article in my two years of editing under my username, nor before when editing under an IP. Sue me if I resent the accusation and the tone with which it was leveled. You didn't come ask a question about why it was remove or politely correct the presumption of copying. You accused, falsely, and made it clear you felt I had vandalized "your" article. I performed what I felt were the correct actions in responding to a, get this, Suspected copyright violation report. The copyvio was borderline, but I could see the issue. As I felt the article was also on a non-notable topic, I CSDed it. It was declined, which was cool, so I followed the prescribed method of dealing with partial copyvio, and removed what appeared to be a copy/paste from the official website. Rather than simply leave a nice note explaining you had revert the removal because of X, you accused me of vandalizing "your" article. -- ] (] · ]) 21:56, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

Conversation is ended by me. Additional replies are not welcome. Wikiusers...look soon for a permanent version of this that all editors can learn from! BMW(drive) 22:41, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

July 2008

I'm pretty sure the edit summary "removing advert" was descriptive enough, thanks very much. Some kids shouldn't have toys. BMW(drive) 16:49, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

Actually, the reason I reverted is because I thought you were trying to lie in your edit summary. You re-added an advertisement that I had removed. Here is the diff of my reversion. What I think happened is, you clicked "undo" a split second after I reverted with Huggle. I have removed the warning I gave you, as you were obviously not intentionally vandalizing, but in the future, you need to make sure of the diff before you save the page. Once, I accidentally reported an administrator to AIV accusing him of being a sockpuppet because I did not check which diff I was looking at. J.delanoy_adds 16:56, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

Going oveboard on your deletions today

Please stop. Your job is to ASSIST with Wikpedia, not vandalize it by deleting everything in sight. If you have some issue with articles that are under construction related to scientists whose PROJECT is listed on the discussion, please let me know. I only create articles with proper CITING and REFERENCEs.

I expect all pages that were create by me today to be UNDELETED and put back ASAP please. BMW(drive) 16:31, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Please note that the PRIMARY article in question that you delete had more references (added by me) that would lead any reader to better understand this person's importance and role in the post-global warming geology. BMW(drive) 16:47, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Still waiting ... if you're going to DELETE an article within 20 minutes of creation, you should be available for at least an additional 20 minutes after to reply to issues. Thanks BMW(drive) 17:22, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Please do not accuse me of vandalism. Stifle (talk) 18:50, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Then, um ... don't do it? I applaud most of your efforts, I look forward to your immediate undoing of your errors, and we'll all go on our merry way :) BMW(drive) 18:53, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

You might like to have a look at WP:VAND for what vandalism is: "Vandalism is any addition, removal, or change of content made in a deliberate attempt to compromise the integrity of Misplaced Pages". This wasn't vandalism. I don't think my deletion was in error, but the deletion review will finally decide that. Stifle (talk) 18:57, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

question

I share your concern at the above deletions. But could you pleas comment on the relationship between William Curry (Geophysicist) and William Curry (Oceanographer). Are these actually two people in very similar fields having exactly the same name? Could you please add some sources and links to the article on the Geophysicist to verify the information provided there. I am quite prepared to help you carry this a little further if necessary beyond the DRV if I think it appropriate. , but this must be clarified first. If there is something you';d rather explain my email, feel free to email me from my user page link. DGG (talk) 23:45, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Hey, thanks for your comment. To be honest, I don't have any real knowledge of either Dr. Curry. I saw a deletion of a poorly named article that deserved to belong, so I did some research and got the oceanographer one up and running. The other one I moved to a geophysicist page, in order to assist in disabiguation. They do have similar backgrounds, although their degrees appear to be from different locations. Their focus is different to: ocean-saving as opposed to resource-utilization. I'll see what I can do to research the geophysicist (all searches I do regarding Dr. Curry and Exxon bring up a woman who is quite an environmentalist, and her name was all over the Exxon Valdez incident" BMW(drive) 12:59, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

PROD's and AfD's

I wanted to drop you a line about something you mentioned on my user page. I will address your other points later today, but I had a quick question. Where did you see that an editor who PROD's an article cannot nominate the same for AfD (assuming someone has contested the PROD)? I haven't run across that policy/guideline/practice etc yet. I checked WP:PROD and WP:AfD and did not see anything there. If you could point me in the right direction, it would be appreciated. Cheers! TN‑X-Man 19:14, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

Also, I have replied to your message on my talk page. TN‑X-Man 19:30, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

IRC

Hey. Would you mind coming on irc://irc.freenode.net/wikipedia-medcab sometime? If you're not familiar with IRC, I can show you how it works. Basically I want to discuss a few things with you and a few others. It's not going to be a "debate" or anything like that. --The Prophet Wizard of the Crayon Cake 00:32, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Heather Morris

A proposed deletion template has been added to the article Heather Morris, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process. All contributions are appreciated, but this article may not satisfy Misplaced Pages's criteria for inclusion, and the deletion notice should explain why (see also "What Misplaced Pages is not" and Misplaced Pages's deletion policy). You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{dated prod}} notice, but please explain why you disagree with the proposed deletion in your edit summary or on its talk page.

Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised because even though removing the deletion notice will prevent deletion through the proposed deletion process, the article may still be deleted if it matches any of the speedy deletion criteria or it can be sent to Articles for Deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached. • Gene93k (talk) 06:02, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

• PROD removed. Reasoning place on discussion page. Details provided to editor. BMW(drive) 13:16, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

The Two Ronnies 1987 Christmas Special

You say that this page does not deserve to exist on its own. I say that it does as it was a culturally significant episode.--Bravo Plantation (talk) 15:22, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Nashville Predators

No problem at all. Glad someone notices! DeluxNate (talk) 18:53, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Brem City

I've pretty much given up on the user - their Upage is on my watchlist and I'm checking their contributions relatively regularly. Much further and I'd have ARVd them for both vandalism and potentially attacking. I'm not keen on moving the article (I don't know if you've seen my comments suggesting that the content/references would be more suited to an article on the band rather than the album), so I may AfD it in the near future. Booglamay (talk) - 20:05, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

I think I'd tried to tell that to the author... no chance! Booglamay (talk) - 13:25, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Accounts with multiple IP addresses

Thanks for the warning -- I did not realize the gravity of the accusation -- However, it seems obvious to me that this is all the same user -- Note that one user User talk:96.247.103.165 specifically threatened 'I'll just change my ip address and make all you admins at[REDACTED] go apeshit.' after being banned for a month -- Perhaps they are different people, but they seem to have the same agenda and have followed me due to a dispute over Dave Zirin. Should I just deal with this one IP at a time and not mention that all of these different IPs seem to be doing the same thing? ThanksEditor437 (talk) 22:59, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Well, since I don't have the time to learn the ins and outs of socketpuppery, I'll just forget about editing on Misplaced Pages, as all my edits get reverted, and when I complain that someone does precisely what they say they are going to do, I get angry responses from administrators. Have fun with this guy:)Editor437 (talk) 03:36, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

I think that new editor recreated the article after it was speedy deleted

Jeff leblanc. — Realist (Speak) 21:17, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

The Article Rescue Squadron needs you

Hello, I noticed that you recently signed up to be part of the Article Rescue Squadron at Misplaced Pages:Article Rescue Squadron/Members.

If you have not yet added this template to your user page, please do: {{Template:User Article Rescue Squadron}}

There is a whole list of articles which needed rescuing now:

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...can you please take the time and rescue one?

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Thank you, Article Rescue Squadron member, Inclusionist (talk) 22:35, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

Hi!

Hi! Do you probably know how I can add pictures to articles? Magnus Armstrong (talk) 23:48, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

• Hi Magnus Armstrong. I'm glad you asked...First, you will need to upload the image to Misplaced Pages itself ... when you do that, you will need to verify that you have the rights to use that image. All the details on licensing and uploading are located here WP:IMAGE. Let me know if you have any issues with the process! Happy editing! BMW(drive) 00:26, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Marcel Bwanga

Hi. I'm sorry, I made a mistake on the delete reasons. It was actually meant to be deleted as a copyright violation (WP:CSD#G12) because it was a cut-and-paste of this website. As it is a copyright violation, I cannot restore it for you, as it's against policy to do so. Best, PeterSymonds (talk) 23:15, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

personal attacks

Edits like this border on personal attacks. Please comment on content, not on other editors. If you carry on making personal attacks you'll be blocked. Gwen Gale (talk) 23:55, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

It's funny. Because of an ameri-euro-centricity, most editors tend to focus on what defines "success" by western standards. I know, I was one of them for a long time. Deleting then PROTECTING an article based on Western Standards when it could not be looked at from that POV, then failing to allow a neutral editor who was 100% willing to CORRECT the article was truly the act of either a bad editor or at least an editor that was having bad moment. My statement above was very clearly not a personal attack - it was based on the old adage that things look different after a good night's sleep, and that by giving you the benefit of the doubt that you ARE a good editor, it was a recommendation to back away for a bit and look at things with a fresh set of eyes. Plus, check the emoticon. Don't get all persnickety on Misplaced Pages, you'll start taking it personally BMW(drive) 10:45, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

ANI

You said that you were concerned that an admin, Nandesuka, used admin powers on an article he was involved with. If you look at the article, you will see that his involvement was limited to deleting the image which he said violated copyright. Therefore, there is no conflict.

Also, we have wikitionary to define terms. An encyclopedic entry would need to discuss origins, uses, etc, besides just merely defining. Ottava Rima (talk) 17:53, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

I have removed the off-topic chat from the ANI page. If you would like to continue discussion of the merits of the Pearl necklace (sexuality) article, please do so by email or on talk pages. Thank you. Exploding Boy (talk) 18:47, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

If you would like to comment on my behavior, please do not post it here. That list is reserved for a handful of admin and other users that stay involved in my discussion participations. If you have a comment, please restrict it to this. Thanks. Ottava Rima (talk) 23:39, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

(reply from his talk page)

I put a comment exactly where it belonged. It was something you needed to WATCH, so I put it there. If you cannot learn from your massive errors, how will you learn from minor ones. I fear your tutelage is not going as well as it should. I admire passion, but I admire admitting when you are out of your league/wrong even moreso. Your tutors need to know exactly how badly you're doing so that they can either help, or bail. Based on your commentary in AN/I (as polite as I could have been) you're not doing so well. You had many chances to save face, but you've succeeded in doing something extremely difficult: entering my "bad editor" books. Your snotty comment served to confirm it. Good luck BMW(drive) 23:50, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

Holy Crap

What the hell did you and 88 do while I was away? I guess we don't have to worry about FoJ anymore.

Also, never noticed you were from Ottawa. Didn't know I had run across a fellow... Ottawean? Ottawite?

Anyway, good editing! --Thaddius (talk) 18:48, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

Careful, someone will now think we're friends in person/sockpuppets of each other and file a complaint! BMW(drive) 18:59, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

I'll admit that one user (and I won't say who) probably needled her just a little too much, and those of us who were trying to help her got "lumped in". We all know she'll be back, and it will be obvious when it happens. While I usually admire passion, she needs some guidance to become a good editor. BMW(drive) 11:09, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

Your sadness

You wrote:

As sad as it is (and so contrary to logic) I would have to say that en.beijing2008.cn is canonical for the naming/translation standard into English. Of course, if they suddenly hire a bunch of local translaters, it will change quickly ;)

Why are you sad? And what is the logic that is contradicted here? Sorry if I'm missing something. And why would anything change if the translators were local? The Chinese generally prefer American English (though not as strongly as Japanese and Koreans). Actually, how do you even know the translators aren't local? Just curious. Sorry if I said something that made you said. Samuel Webster (talk) 17:56, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

(reply from his talk page)

I saw your messages both AN/I and on my talk page. Let me begin with saying that I am NOT anti-American. I am, however, Canadian, and use the Queen's English like almost all of the English-speaking world except for the US.

As those who study language admit, the dropping of Queen's English in the US was primarily a political statement, so the "u" got dropped from odour, and "centre" became "center". Linguistics professors around the world (and the US) call this the "Bastardization of the English Language". That makes me sad. The use of Americanized English by some Canadian newspapers makes me sad.

Please note, I have specified in the AN/I that since en.beijing2008.cn uses Americanized English, then the use of "Center" instead of the IOC standard of "Centre" is correct.

However - a "metre" is a standard unit of measure. A "meter" is something you measure with.

Please only change the words in the article that actually should be changed.

I do not wish to argue languages with you, but would be happy to assist in other issues as required BMW(drive) 18:27, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

My tutored editor

Bwilkins, thaks; I was offilne for 3 days during which you posted to me - sorry about that. I don't see any problem here with this now; it seems to have blown off in the immetiate term, at least as regards Ottava. Disenge is the mantra with him these days, and i see that here - he stuck up for himself; after that left it go and went for his rest. Ceoil 02:04, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

AFD

I go by what is in the film guidelines, A topic is presumed to be notable if it has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject. Schuym1 (talk) 23:24, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

I think that the article will be fine if it gets at least one more review. Also, sites like Amazon aren't reliable sources. Schuym1 (talk) 02:54, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

Dinosaur Island (2002 film)

• Popular in Italy
• Popular in Hungary
• You might study THIS and see if other country releases help your notability.

Schmidt, 05:53, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

• here's THIS and THIS. Schmidt, 06:06, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
• From taking part in the AfD discussion, I noticed that someone thought you were right on the edge of proving notability. Every little bit helps. Better to be oversourced than not enough. Schmidt, 18:16, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

Confused

You've just given a hearty welcome to http://en.wikipedia.org/User_talk:ChubmasterFat

A user whose only contributions were vandalism and who has been blocked by another admin. Is there something the rest of us are missing perchance?The Thunderer (talk) 16:18, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

August 2008

Welcome to Misplaced Pages. Although everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia, we would like to remind you not to attack other editors. Please comment on the contributions and not the contributors. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. Please do not make refer to dialects or other aspects of culture that differ from your own as "bastardizations". This goes against WP:CIVIL. Samuel Webster (talk) 17:43, 23 August 2008 (UTC)